If Scripture forbids something, I doubt God will give that thing as a spiritual gift. If she thinks she has a pastor gift than shes probably not gifted in the common sense department.
At this point, given the confusion in the church, which is why the world is so confused about so many things, we can only plead for God’s mercy. His word is clear, but we fear the world, not God. It is too easy to say what the world wants us to say, and too hard to conform to God’s laws. Lord help us.
@@PettyFranceSaints1689 I’m not sure if that is the case. Since everything in the political atmosphere of our day, has been politicized. I imagine the counsels were more aware of the theological issues at hand, and the need for their settled positions to come from the word of God and a biblical metaphysic. The SBC has responded by saying, “the world is watching”. Good grief.
@@PettyFranceSaints1689 Do you think any of these men at this convention have a taste of the persecution that many of the Nicene Fathers lived through?
While it makes sense, I wish this clip would have included Bill Ascol’s kind comments toward Dr. Mohler. I felt that was a great picture of the cooperation we as Southern Baptists celebrate.
Good thing Southern Baptists don't have ordination. Very democratic folks those Southern Baptist. A lay person is elected by other lay people... just like in the Bible. (just kidding)
I think defining “pastor” as the committee is being formed to do is actually important since hundreds of Baptist churches have children’s pastors who are women, and who embody a teaching and leadership position. By the way Albert Mohler says here that we shouldn’t have to define every word, yet I studied at SBTS where Dr. Mohler vehemently expresses that words, every word, matter.
@@tomandkatherinewilliams7784 yes, women aren’t allowed to teach, but they can teach and disciple young men in the most formative years of their lives. Come on, that’s a bit hypocritical isn’t it? The ordination was acknowledgement.
When you start parsing words to the point of interpretive absurdity, then you have rendered the BF and M document not only fluid, but ultimately ineffective as a guiding, definitive document. If SBC churches want to revise their understanding of "pastor" to accommodate women pastors, then get out of the SBC and start your own group. I say this not as a Southern Baptist, but the pastor of an SBC church that holds to a complementarian position regarding male/female roles in the church.
It would seem that the powers that be are bound and determined to , not only defy the BFM 2000, but the clear teaching of Scripture. In that case, cutting off, or greatly reducing funding to this rebellion may have the desirable effect of reigning these people in.
I could use some clarity here since it wasn't explicitly spoken: is Dr. Mohler here defending the position that women should not be considered pastors? I just want to make sure I understand.
If a camel gets his nose under the edge of a tent, the camel is IN the tent. The SBC is a collapsing tent which is filled with camels who are in control.
Is this why he stood up against a winning liberalism in the 1990s? Because it was politically expedient? I could agree that Mohler ought to be more out spoken on issues of increasing liberalism in our day, however, to say that all he is interested in is his political gain is an uncharitable take. Furthermore, to write this man off after all that he has done in the past for SBC is all the more, uncharitable. Can you not recognize that him speaking here is a good thing without criticizing him? What is good is good, and we ought to rejoice in it!
ISAIAH 3:12. Do we not hear The Eternal mind of our God. He is Immutable. Then why do we try to change Him and Undermine His Authority. By doing so, you people, who call themselves Christian leaders, or Christian. Your misunderstanding will lead you into a demise unimaginable. You are doing the same thing that Israel has done in O.T. we are no different. Pagen and Rebellious to His Revelation.
Some Scriptures about hell by Jesus himself and how not to go there: In Luke 16:19-31 Jesus describes a rich man that lived lavishly and a poor beggar man named Lazarus. It came to pass that Lazarus died and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom. The rich man died, was buried, then went to hell. 23 And in hell he lifted up his eyes, being in TORMENT, saw Abraham afar off and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue, for I am tormented IN THIS FLAME. 25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that you in your lifetime received good things, and likewise Lazarus received evil things, but now he is comforted and you are tormented. 26 And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that they which would pass from hence to you can not, neither can they pass to us, and would come from thence. 27 Then he said, I pray you therefore father, that you would send him to my father’s house. 28 For I have 5 brothers that he may testify unto them, lest also come into this place of torment. 29 Abraham said unto him, They have Moses and the prophets, let them hear them. 30 And he said, Nay father Abraham, but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. 31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.” LOCATION OF HELL: Jesus said in Matthew 12:40, ”For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly, so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the HEART OF THE EARTH.” Paul said in Ephesians 4:9, ”Now that he ascended, was it but that he also DESCENDED into the LOWER PARTS OF THE EARTH.” HELL IS A PLACE OF FIRE: Jesus said in Luke 16:24,”….Father Abraham have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue for I am TORMENTED IN THIS FLAME.” Jesus said in Matthew 13:42,”And shall cast them into a FURNACE OF FIRE, there shall be WAILING AND GNASHING OF TEETH.” Jesus said in Matthew 25:41,”Then shall he also say to them on the left hand, Depart from me, you cursed, INTO EVERLASTING FIRE, prepared for the devil and his angels.” Jesus said in Revelation 20:15,”And whosoever was not found written in the book of life, was CAST INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE.” HELL IS A PLACE OF TORMENT: Jesus said in Luke 16:23,”And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in TORMENT….” 24 …..for I am TORMENTED in this flame.” Jesus said in Revelation 14:11,”And the smoke of their TORMENT ascended up FOR EVER AND EVER, and they have no rest day or night….” Jesus said in Mark 9:45-46,”And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off, it is better for you to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the FIRE THAT NEVER SHALL BE QUENCHED. 46 Where their WORM DIES NOT, and the fire is not quenched.” Note that it doesn’t say “THE Worm”, it says “THEIR WORM” dies not. Jesus said in Revelation 21:8,”But the fearful and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whore mongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burns WITH FIRE AND BRIMSTONE, which is the second death.” Note that Brimstone is Sulfur and burns with a very strong odor of rotten eggs. The scriptures above prove when a person goes to hell they will constantly see hell, constantly smell hell, constantly feel the heat of hell, will constantly breath hell, will constantly hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth of others in hell, will constantly be aware of their own worms, they will have no rest day or night, there is no way out and it will continue for ever and ever, they can’t die because they are already dead. The following is how to not go there and it is a SIMPLE AND EASY thing to do: All of the book of Acts is what Jesus disciples said what we must to be SAVED - meaning not go to hell, which is repentance, water baptism in Jesus NAME, (Not the titles Father, Son, and Holy Ghost) and being baptized with the Holy Ghost. Jesus said in Mark 16:16,"He that believes and is BAPTIZED shall be SAVED, but he that believes not shall be damned." At about that same time He said in Matthew 28:19,"Go therefore and teach all nations BAPTIZING them in the name (SINGULAR name and not name's) OF the Father, and OF the Son, and OF the Holy Ghost." Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are titles and not names. Jesus disciples never used those words when they baptized anyone in water, nor did they use those words in one sentence regarding any other topic. Every time they said Jesus NAME at baptism which is Acts 2:38, Acts 8:14-18, Acts 8:38, Acts 9:18, Acts 10:44-48, Acts 16:15, Acts 16:33, Acts 18:7, Acts 18:8, Acts 19:3-5, and Acts 22:16. Jesus said in John 3:3-7,"Verily, verily I say unto you, Except a man BE BORN AGAIN, he can not see the kingdom of God. 5 Verily, verily I say unto, Except a man be born of water AND of the Spirit, he can not enter into the kingdom of heaven. 7 Marvel not that I say unto you, YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN." Being born of water is being baptized in water which is for the REMISSION OF SINS - meaning the INITIAL remission of sins and not the confessing of sins later addressed in 1 John 1:9. Being born of the Spirit is being baptized with the Holy Ghost. What being baptized with the Holy Ghost means is addressed in Acts 2:3-4, (Pentecost), Acts 8:17, Acts 9:18, Acts 10:44-48, and Acts 19:3-5 - which is when the Spirit of Christ initially dwells in a person. Nowhere in Scripture does it say it happens any other way than that way. There is not one Scripture that says a person receives the Holy Ghost just because they are a believer. Paul said in Romans 8:9-11,”But you are not in the flesh, but in the spirit, if so be that the spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, HE IS NONE OF HIS." Numbers 23:19, ”God is not a man that he should lie, neither the son of man, that he should repent, has he said and shall he not do it? And shall he not make it good?” Malachi 3:6,”For I am the Lord, I change not...” Hebrews 13:8,”Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, and today, and forever.” That means there is no reason to think that Jesus will make an exception and save someone that has not been baptized in water in Jesus NAME, and has not been baptized with the Holy Ghost. If you are convinced you need to get baptized in water in Jesus Name do a search and type in "United Pentecostal Church International", scroll down to just below the red box, type in your zip code, a screen will show a Church near you that will do that. Jesus said John 10:27, ”My Sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.”
Many people solely base their Salvation on what Jesus said in John 3:16, "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son that whosoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life." But Jesus was not finished speaking yet. Later after He rose from the dead and just before He ascended into heaven He said in Mark 16:16,"He that believes and is BAPTIZED shall be Saved, but he that believes not shall be damned." At about that same time He said in Matthew 28:19,"Go therefore and teach all nations, BAPTIZING them in the name (SINGULAR name and not names) OF the Father, and OF the Son, and OF the Holy Ghost." Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are titles and not names. Jesus disciples never used those words when they baptized anyone in water, nor did they use those words in one sentence regarding any other topic. Every time Jesus disciples baptized anyone in water they invoked Jesus name at baptism which is Acts 2:38, Acts 8:14-18, Acts 8:38, Acts 9:18, Acts 10:44-48, Acts 16:15, Acts 16:33, Acts 18:7, Acts 18:8, Acts 19:3-5, and Acts 22:16 (Paul's baptism). Peter said in Acts 4:12,"Neither is there salvation in any other, for there is none other NAME under heaven given among men, whereby we must be SAVED." Paul said in Colossians 3:17,"And whatsoever you do in word or deed, do ALL in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by HIM." Paul said in Colossians 2:8-10,"Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9 For in him dwells ALL the fullness of the Godhead bodily. 10 And you are COMPLETE in him, which is the head of all principality and power." Also verse 12, "BURIED with him in BAPTISM, wherein also you are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who has raised him from the dead." The book of Acts is the most important book in the New Testament because all of it is what Jesus and his disciples said what we must do to be Saved, which is what Jesus meant in John 3:3-7, "Verily, verily I say unto you, Except a man be born again, he can not enter into the kingdom of God. 5 Verily, verily I say unto you, Except a man be born of water AND the of Spirit, he can not enter into the kingdom of God. 7 Marvel not that I say unto you, YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN." Being born of water is being baptized in water in Jesus name - which is for the Remission of Sins (Acts 2:38). Being born of the Spirit is being baptized with the Holy Ghost - which is addressed in Acts 2:4 (Pentecost), Acts 8:17, Acts 9:18, Acts 10:44-48, and Acts 19:3-5. Nowhere in Scripture does it say it happens any other way than that way. There is not one Scripture that says a person receives the Holy Ghost just because they are a believer. Acts 19:2-5 is a good example. If you are convinced you need to get Baptized in water in Jesus Name, do a search, type in "United Pentecostal Church International", scroll down to just below the red box, type in your zip code, a screen will show a Church near you that will do that. Jesus said in John 10:27,"My Sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me."
Really?- is this controversy all about women ordenation? If The S.B.C. Women Missionary Union leadership and Women Preachers have been able to collect 7,000 billion dollars this 2023, They must have the best women teachers/ preachers in the world! Furthermore The. S.B.C. constanlly ordains Missionary Women before sending them out at both national and international levels! The very best examples of the above said affirmation is Annie Armstrong and Lottie Moon!
New Covenant Whole Gospel: Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him. He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth. Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD: Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart. Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36) Watch the UA-cam video “The New Covenant” by Bob George.
Sorry Dr. Mohler... I'm afraid you have lost your convention. You didn't stand up against CRT and racial Marxism, and this is the fruit of your lack of discernment.
@dale wokeism is completely and entirely asleep at the wheel, unable to define and differentiate a man from a woman, up from down, left from right, or right from wrong. Be gone.
@dale dear Dale, first, thanks for your extreme insults in insinuating I don’t understand the definitions of words. I have an honors engineering degree, received scholarship from Apple’s CEO, and am working on a master’s of divinity degree. Secondly, groups that claim to be “anti-fascist” are the biggest hypocrites of all, and desire to implement socialism, communism, and authoritarian/totalitarian rule, and support the awful administration that is currently in place. They bend words and play word games in order to try to silence anyone who disagrees with their radical ideology. Someone else a long time ago twisted words in order to deceive and subvert. His name was Satan. He still is up to his same old tricks through the deceived. Sincerely, glassmw.
@dale believe me my friend, I know this and much more. I’ve written papers about it, read books about it, and have watched lectures about it. I have experienced it. I would be worm food, 6’ underground were it not for the goodness and grace of God. My life has been saved in the earthly, temporal realm and the eternal realm because of these truths and God’s goodness and defeat of the lies of Satan and his minions. God is sovereign over all things, and even turns the evil and deception Satan is allowed to do for ultimate good. Read the story of Joseph, read the book of Job. See the story of Jesus. In the greatest act of evil in the crucifixion of Jesus, this is the means by which Jesus laid down His life, so that through faith in Him the greatest good could come about, that is the reconciliation of sinful men to God by salvation through faith in Christ. “You planned evil against me; God planned it for good to bring about the present result - the survival of many people.” Genesis 50:20 “This is why the Father loves me, because I lay down my life so that I may take it up again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down on my own. I have the right to lay it down, and I have the right to take it up again. I have received this command from my Father.” John 10:17-18 ““For my thoughts are not your thoughts, and your ways are not my ways.” This is the Lord’s declaration. “For as heaven is higher than earth, so my ways are higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.” Isaiah 55:8-9 And what is your worldview? What are your beliefs? What is your explanation for who we are, how we got here, what our purpose is, what our greatest problem(s) are, and how we overcome them? Or do you only go around telling people how foolish their beliefs are, insulting them for their faith?
@dale as for raping children, my beliefs and worldview state that God will condemn these rapists and they will spend eternal hell in torment for their crimes. And what if God doesn’t use that awful, terrible event to have a counselor, family member, or church member comfort that child and take him or her away to a safe and better place, and eternal saving faith in Christ? As horrible, evil, and reprehensible as acts like that are, I’ve witnessed God use events like that for good, and have seen this happen hundreds, if not thousands of times with my own eyes and ears having worked closely with a foster ministry. That abuse is horrid and evil, and we condemn that behavior which crawls out of the pits of hell, but God IS sovereign and good, and yes, even uses that for good. Those people who go through those kinds of things are often the best at helping others come from likewise awful situations. Thank you for sharing this example, it too confirms and affirms God’s word: “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our affliction, so that we may be able to comfort those who are in any affliction, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God. For as we share abundantly in Christ’s sufferings, so through Christ we share abundantly in comfort too.” 2 Corinthians 1:3-5 And what does your worldview and beliefs state on the matter? You try to pose claims and situations as if you somehow know better or are more wise than God. You are not, and you will never (don’t worry, I don’t/won’t either, nor will any other human). The ground is level at the foot of the cross. We all come up short, because we are sinful, but God, in His grace, extends mercy and forgiveness to any willing to receive it. Again, what is your worldview? What are your beliefs? What is your explanation for who we are, how we got here, what our purpose is, what our greater problem(s) are, and how we overcome them? Seems you are too afraid to even state what you believe. You simply try to sow seeds of doubt and claim “no, that’s not true”, and even at this, you fall short.
They will next be trying to define what a woman is! Just read the Bible and obey it.
If Scripture forbids something, I doubt God will give that thing as a spiritual gift. If she thinks she has a pastor gift than shes probably not gifted in the common sense department.
"To me"...that statement condemns her right out of the gate.
She should have been dismissed if the Bible is still their Standard.
At this point, given the confusion in the church, which is why the world is so confused about so many things, we can only plead for God’s mercy. His word is clear, but we fear the world, not God. It is too easy to say what the world wants us to say, and too hard to conform to God’s laws. Lord help us.
Denny, that looks like more like a political convention than a Christian church meeting.
What an unfortunate and yet keen observation.
The council of Nicaea, Constantinople, and Chalcedon where we got the Nicene creed and Chalcedon definition would have been worse than this.
@@PettyFranceSaints1689 I’m not sure if that is the case. Since everything in the political atmosphere of our day, has been politicized. I imagine the counsels were more aware of the theological issues at hand, and the need for their settled positions to come from the word of God and a biblical metaphysic. The SBC has responded by saying, “the world is watching”. Good grief.
@@PettyFranceSaints1689 Do you think any of these men at this convention have a taste of the persecution that many of the Nicene Fathers lived through?
And to you Mr. Linton we don't plagiarize sermons...its called intellectual theft and thats not how me do business.
Thank you sir
Calling out error and confusion when it presents itself, especially in the context of the church is exactly how Christians do business!
While it makes sense, I wish this clip would have included Bill Ascol’s kind comments toward Dr. Mohler. I felt that was a great picture of the cooperation we as Southern Baptists celebrate.
Sound like it would be very painful just to be there.
I strongly disagree with woman being ordained as pastors. If the SBC goes down the road to ordain woman as pastors, it will collapse immediately!!!
Lol because women are the issue here. Not the fact they children are being abused by these men…good god. Get your priorities right.
The SBC is already finished the leftist Marxist have infiltrated at the highest ranks
Good thing Southern Baptists don't have ordination. Very democratic folks those Southern Baptist. A lay person is elected by other lay people... just like in the Bible. (just kidding)
It’s already collapsing, and this becomes clear the minute one walks away from the chaos.
Pastor is a spiritual gift?
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It’s an office lmao
The SBC seems to have gone the way of the "whiskeypalians" , the ecumenical methodists and other deviants from the Word.
I think defining “pastor” as the committee is being formed to do is actually important since hundreds of Baptist churches have children’s pastors who are women, and who embody a teaching and leadership position. By the way Albert Mohler says here that we shouldn’t have to define every word, yet I studied at SBTS where Dr. Mohler vehemently expresses that words, every word, matter.
The BF&M has already done this. Better yet, the BF&M is based upon its authority, God’s word.
women pastors is rebellion against God Himself.
Women have taught Sunday school historically without ordination. That's just getting the camel's nose in the tent.
It is perfectly clear why this word has suddenly been placed under the microscope. THAT is his point.
@@tomandkatherinewilliams7784 yes, women aren’t allowed to teach, but they can teach and disciple young men in the most formative years of their lives. Come on, that’s a bit hypocritical isn’t it? The ordination was acknowledgement.
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And all of GOD’S people said, “BOOMSHAKALAKA”!
The Bible is clear. To go against the Word is to go against God.
When you start parsing words to the point of interpretive absurdity, then you have rendered the BF and M document not only fluid, but ultimately ineffective as a guiding, definitive document. If SBC churches want to revise their understanding of "pastor" to accommodate women pastors, then get out of the SBC and start your own group. I say this not as a Southern Baptist, but the pastor of an SBC church that holds to a complementarian position regarding male/female roles in the church.
It would seem that the powers that be are bound and determined to , not only defy the BFM 2000, but the clear teaching of Scripture. In that case, cutting off, or greatly reducing funding to this rebellion may have the desirable effect of reigning these people in.
I could use some clarity here since it wasn't explicitly spoken: is Dr. Mohler here defending the position that women should not be considered pastors? I just want to make sure I understand.
Dr Mohker is woke as can be. Al just looks to do what is politically expedient for him.
@@WHATSUP7049 What you're saying isn't constructive at all. It's pretty silly to profile Dr Mohler that way actually.
@@squrpion then you have absolutely no idea what idea what’s going on in the SBC for the last 4 years
@@squrpion but then again maybe u know exactly what’s going on and your all for this false gospel of critical race theory
@@squrpion and let me be crystal clear Dr Al Mohler is an apostate and the SBC is an apostate denomination
Mohler will stand up and defend the office of pastor as a man only, until it becomes politically expedient not to.
Ouch! But, yep...
If a camel gets his nose under the edge of a tent, the camel is IN the tent. The SBC is a collapsing tent which is filled with camels who are in control.
Is this why he stood up against a winning liberalism in the 1990s? Because it was politically expedient?
I could agree that Mohler ought to be more out spoken on issues of increasing liberalism in our day, however, to say that all he is interested in is his political gain is an uncharitable take.
Furthermore, to write this man off after all that he has done in the past for SBC is all the more, uncharitable. Can you not recognize that him speaking here is a good thing without criticizing him? What is good is good, and we ought to rejoice in it!
@@Parks179-h Al Mahler is an apostate wake up
What is BFM?? Like we’re supposed to already know????
Baptist Faith and Message
@@danielfrohlich9615 Thank you Daniel.
Mm, sounds like a Jezebel right there
02:37 What an awful attempt. "Um...I think it's right because we have people who have gifts that we want to use" / When did intellectualism die?
ISAIAH 3:12.
Do we not hear The Eternal mind of our God. He is Immutable. Then why do we try to change Him and Undermine His Authority. By doing so, you people, who call themselves Christian leaders, or Christian. Your misunderstanding will lead you into a demise unimaginable. You are doing the same thing that Israel has done in O.T. we are no different. Pagen and Rebellious to His Revelation.
Some Scriptures about hell by Jesus himself and how not to go there:
In Luke 16:19-31 Jesus describes a rich man that lived lavishly and a poor beggar man named Lazarus. It came to pass that Lazarus died and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom. The rich man died, was buried, then went to hell. 23 And in hell he lifted up his eyes, being in TORMENT, saw Abraham afar off and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue, for I am tormented IN THIS FLAME. 25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that you in your lifetime received good things, and likewise Lazarus received evil things, but now he is comforted and you are tormented. 26 And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that they which would pass from hence to you can not, neither can they pass to us, and would come from thence. 27 Then he said, I pray you therefore father, that you would send him to my father’s house. 28 For I have 5 brothers that he may testify unto them, lest also come into this place of torment. 29 Abraham said unto him, They have Moses and the prophets, let them hear them. 30 And he said, Nay father Abraham, but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. 31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.”
LOCATION OF HELL: Jesus said in Matthew 12:40, ”For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly, so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the HEART OF THE EARTH.” Paul said in Ephesians 4:9, ”Now that he ascended, was it but that he also DESCENDED into the LOWER PARTS OF THE EARTH.”
HELL IS A PLACE OF FIRE: Jesus said in Luke 16:24,”….Father Abraham have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue for I am TORMENTED IN THIS FLAME.”
Jesus said in Matthew 13:42,”And shall cast them into a FURNACE OF FIRE, there shall be WAILING AND GNASHING OF TEETH.” Jesus said in Matthew 25:41,”Then shall he also say to them on the left hand, Depart from me, you cursed, INTO EVERLASTING FIRE, prepared for the devil and his angels.”
Jesus said in Revelation 20:15,”And whosoever was not found written in the book of life, was CAST INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE.”
HELL IS A PLACE OF TORMENT: Jesus said in Luke 16:23,”And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in TORMENT….” 24 …..for I am TORMENTED in this flame.” Jesus said in Revelation 14:11,”And the smoke of their TORMENT ascended up FOR EVER AND EVER, and they have no rest day or night….” Jesus said in Mark 9:45-46,”And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off, it is better for you to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the FIRE THAT NEVER SHALL BE QUENCHED. 46 Where their WORM DIES NOT, and the fire is not quenched.” Note that it doesn’t say “THE Worm”, it says “THEIR WORM” dies not. Jesus said in Revelation 21:8,”But the fearful and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whore mongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burns WITH FIRE AND BRIMSTONE, which is the second death.” Note that Brimstone is Sulfur and burns with a very strong odor of rotten eggs.
The scriptures above prove when a person goes to hell they will constantly see hell, constantly smell hell, constantly feel the heat of hell, will constantly breath hell, will constantly hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth of others in hell, will constantly be aware of their own worms, they will have no rest day or night, there is no way out and it will continue for ever and ever, they can’t die because they are already dead.
The following is how to not go there and it is a SIMPLE AND EASY thing to do:
All of the book of Acts is what Jesus disciples said what we must to be SAVED - meaning not go to hell, which is repentance, water baptism in Jesus NAME, (Not the titles Father, Son, and Holy Ghost) and being baptized with the Holy Ghost. Jesus said in Mark 16:16,"He that believes and is BAPTIZED shall be SAVED, but he that believes not shall be damned."
At about that same time He said in Matthew 28:19,"Go therefore and teach all nations BAPTIZING them in the name (SINGULAR name and not name's) OF the Father, and OF the Son, and OF the Holy Ghost." Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are titles and not names. Jesus disciples never used those words when they baptized anyone in water, nor did they use those words in one sentence regarding any other topic. Every time they said Jesus NAME at baptism which is Acts 2:38, Acts 8:14-18, Acts 8:38, Acts 9:18, Acts 10:44-48, Acts 16:15, Acts 16:33, Acts 18:7, Acts 18:8, Acts 19:3-5, and Acts 22:16.
Jesus said in John 3:3-7,"Verily, verily I say unto you, Except a man BE BORN AGAIN, he can not see the kingdom of God. 5 Verily, verily I say unto, Except a man be born of water AND of the Spirit, he can not enter into the kingdom of heaven. 7 Marvel not that I say unto you, YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN." Being born of water is being baptized in water which is for the REMISSION OF SINS - meaning the INITIAL remission of sins and not the confessing of sins later addressed in 1 John 1:9. Being born of the Spirit is being baptized with the Holy Ghost. What being baptized with the Holy Ghost means is addressed in Acts 2:3-4, (Pentecost), Acts 8:17, Acts 9:18, Acts 10:44-48, and Acts 19:3-5 - which is when the Spirit of Christ initially dwells in a person. Nowhere in Scripture does it say it happens any other way than that way. There is not one Scripture that says a person receives the Holy Ghost just because they are a believer.
Paul said in Romans 8:9-11,”But you are not in the flesh, but in the spirit, if so be that the spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, HE IS NONE OF HIS."
Numbers 23:19, ”God is not a man that he should lie, neither the son of man, that he should repent, has he said and shall he not do it? And shall he not make it good?”
Malachi 3:6,”For I am the Lord, I change not...”
Hebrews 13:8,”Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, and today, and forever.” That means there is no reason to think that Jesus will make an exception and save someone that has not been baptized in water in Jesus NAME, and has not been baptized with the Holy Ghost.
If you are convinced you need to get baptized in water in Jesus Name do a search and type in "United Pentecostal Church International", scroll down to just below the red box, type in your zip code, a screen will show a Church near you that will do that.
Jesus said John 10:27, ”My Sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.”
Many people solely base their Salvation on what Jesus said in John 3:16, "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son that whosoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life." But Jesus was not finished speaking yet. Later after He rose from the dead and just before He ascended into heaven He said in Mark 16:16,"He that believes and is BAPTIZED shall be Saved, but he that believes not shall be damned." At about that same time He said in Matthew 28:19,"Go therefore and teach all nations, BAPTIZING them in the name (SINGULAR name and not names) OF the Father, and OF the Son, and OF the Holy Ghost." Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are titles and not names. Jesus disciples never used those words when they baptized anyone in water, nor did they use those words in one sentence regarding any other topic. Every time Jesus disciples baptized anyone in water they invoked Jesus name at baptism which is Acts 2:38, Acts 8:14-18, Acts 8:38, Acts 9:18, Acts 10:44-48, Acts 16:15, Acts 16:33, Acts 18:7, Acts 18:8, Acts 19:3-5, and Acts 22:16 (Paul's baptism). Peter said in Acts 4:12,"Neither is there salvation in any other, for there is none other NAME under heaven given among men, whereby we must be SAVED." Paul said in Colossians 3:17,"And whatsoever you do in word or deed, do ALL in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by HIM." Paul said in Colossians 2:8-10,"Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9 For in him dwells ALL the fullness of the Godhead bodily. 10 And you are COMPLETE in him, which is the head of all principality and power." Also verse 12, "BURIED with him in BAPTISM, wherein also you are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who has raised him from the dead."
The book of Acts is the most important book in the New Testament because all of it is what Jesus and his disciples said what we must do to be Saved, which is what Jesus meant in John 3:3-7, "Verily, verily I say unto you, Except a man be born again, he can not enter into the kingdom of God. 5 Verily, verily I say unto you, Except a man be born of water AND the of Spirit, he can not enter into the kingdom of God. 7 Marvel not that I say unto you, YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN." Being born of water is being baptized in water in Jesus name - which is for the Remission of Sins (Acts 2:38). Being born of the Spirit is being baptized with the Holy Ghost - which is addressed in Acts 2:4 (Pentecost), Acts 8:17, Acts 9:18, Acts 10:44-48, and Acts 19:3-5. Nowhere in Scripture does it say it happens any other way than that way. There is not one Scripture that says a person receives the Holy Ghost just because they are a believer. Acts 19:2-5 is a good example.
If you are convinced you need to get Baptized in water in Jesus Name, do a search, type in "United Pentecostal Church International", scroll down to just below the red box, type in your zip code, a screen will show a Church near you that will do that.
Jesus said in John 10:27,"My Sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me."
Really?- is this controversy all about women ordenation? If The S.B.C. Women Missionary Union leadership and Women Preachers have been able to collect 7,000 billion dollars this 2023, They must have the best women teachers/ preachers in the world! Furthermore The. S.B.C. constanlly ordains Missionary Women before sending them out at both national and international levels! The very best examples of the above said affirmation is Annie Armstrong and Lottie Moon!
New Covenant Whole Gospel:
Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him.
He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth.
Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by
husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis?
Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart.
Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36)
Watch the UA-cam video “The New Covenant” by Bob George.
To hell with this wokism!!!
Sorry Dr. Mohler... I'm afraid you have lost your convention. You didn't stand up against CRT and racial Marxism, and this is the fruit of your lack of discernment.
Not only does he not stand against CRT Al is for it. Al Mohler is an apostate and so is the SBC.
Sexism and nastiness on full display.
What’s wrong with Mohler’s voice? He sounds drunk.
Can't drink.
That's what they said at Pentacost too.
Hypocrite! He's a very woke person!
@dale wokeism is completely and entirely asleep at the wheel, unable to define and differentiate a man from a woman, up from down, left from right, or right from wrong. Be gone.
@dale dear Dale, first, thanks for your extreme insults in insinuating I don’t understand the definitions of words. I have an honors engineering degree, received scholarship from Apple’s CEO, and am working on a master’s of divinity degree. Secondly, groups that claim to be “anti-fascist” are the biggest hypocrites of all, and desire to implement socialism, communism, and authoritarian/totalitarian rule, and support the awful administration that is currently in place. They bend words and play word games in order to try to silence anyone who disagrees with their radical ideology. Someone else a long time ago twisted words in order to deceive and subvert. His name was Satan. He still is up to his same old tricks through the deceived. Sincerely, glassmw.
@dale believe me my friend, I know this and much more. I’ve written papers about it, read books about it, and have watched lectures about it. I have experienced it. I would be worm food, 6’ underground were it not for the goodness and grace of God. My life has been saved in the earthly, temporal realm and the eternal realm because of these truths and God’s goodness and defeat of the lies of Satan and his minions. God is sovereign over all things, and even turns the evil and deception Satan is allowed to do for ultimate good. Read the story of Joseph, read the book of Job. See the story of Jesus. In the greatest act of evil in the crucifixion of Jesus, this is the means by which Jesus laid down His life, so that through faith in Him the greatest good could come about, that is the reconciliation of sinful men to God by salvation through faith in Christ.
“You planned evil against me; God planned it for good to bring about the present result - the survival of many people.” Genesis 50:20
“This is why the Father loves me, because I lay down my life so that I may take it up again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down on my own. I have the right to lay it down, and I have the right to take it up again. I have received this command from my Father.” John 10:17-18
““For my thoughts are not your thoughts, and your ways are not my ways.” This is the Lord’s declaration. “For as heaven is higher than earth, so my ways are higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.” Isaiah 55:8-9
And what is your worldview? What are your beliefs? What is your explanation for who we are, how we got here, what our purpose is, what our greatest problem(s) are, and how we overcome them? Or do you only go around telling people how foolish their beliefs are, insulting them for their faith?
@dale as for raping children, my beliefs and worldview state that God will condemn these rapists and they will spend eternal hell in torment for their crimes. And what if God doesn’t use that awful, terrible event to have a counselor, family member, or church member comfort that child and take him or her away to a safe and better place, and eternal saving faith in Christ? As horrible, evil, and reprehensible as acts like that are, I’ve witnessed God use events like that for good, and have seen this happen hundreds, if not thousands of times with my own eyes and ears having worked closely with a foster ministry. That abuse is horrid and evil, and we condemn that behavior which crawls out of the pits of hell, but God IS sovereign and good, and yes, even uses that for good. Those people who go through those kinds of things are often the best at helping others come from likewise awful situations. Thank you for sharing this example, it too confirms and affirms God’s word:
“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our affliction, so that we may be able to comfort those who are in any affliction, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God. For as we share abundantly in Christ’s sufferings, so through Christ we share abundantly in comfort too.” 2 Corinthians 1:3-5
And what does your worldview and beliefs state on the matter?
You try to pose claims and situations as if you somehow know better or are more wise than God. You are not, and you will never (don’t worry, I don’t/won’t either, nor will any other human). The ground is level at the foot of the cross. We all come up short, because we are sinful, but God, in His grace, extends mercy and forgiveness to any willing to receive it. Again, what is your worldview? What are your beliefs? What is your explanation for who we are, how we got here, what our purpose is, what our greater problem(s) are, and how we overcome them? Seems you are too afraid to even state what you believe. You simply try to sow seeds of doubt and claim “no, that’s not true”, and even at this, you fall short.