I knew a plumber who always complained how he was in pain yet smoked two packs in an eight hour shift and bit his nails constantly. Pretty sure the dude was balding from how he took care of him self.........never wore gloves
@@beefjuicer4808 sewage is a problem but the chemicals in PVC solvents are probably more damaging to your long term health. Definitely should be wearing gloves for any of it.
Had an electrician tell me they’re more important than plumbers once. I asked him if he’d rather shit in the dark, or shit on the floor in the corner with the lights on. He walked away.
Yes. Sometimes it is best to walk away from a stupid argument being instigated by a stupid person. Electricians know this. you, however. are clearly not an electrician.
@@jeffreycampagnola1159why are you asking that when they are a certified plumber?🤨 plumbers and hvac professionals are two different professions not the same thing I have four uncle's who work as a hvac technician and two more that work in the plumbing industry how the heck are you you gonna ask someone if they are a professional plumber
@Yamaszlof Mcdurkin Haha...umm, yeah. I'm a class one, unlimited operator. You can get away with that on a residential boiler for a while, but tomorrow, I'm descaling a four-year-old boiler for that very reason.
There is a difference between "blowing" and "draining" a boiler. You "blow" the boiler once a week to once a month while it's hot. That is to remove the floaters. You put the water in a bucket to let it cool. About once a year you drain the system after you let it cool. You can open the intake to help wash out the crud on the bottom. I had a worker that confused draining and blowing. He insisted you should drain it hot. But he melted our sump pump...
I broke a toilet once. Customer told me to throw the water In the toilet like he does. Not realizing there’s a freaking wax seal 😂😂 I guess one bucket of hot water is ok for the wax but I dump 3-4 buckets and it melted the wax
I have zero of experience on small residential boilers. Most is on industrial and commercial units. In that area, we’d install a valve specifically for the plant maintenance to blow down once a week. I don’t see how it couldn’t work on a residential application
@@NYCHvac I guess I understand that. I originally thought you sub out any pipe fitting lol. The way my shop does it is if I find needed repairs while doing service then that’s my job. Incentivizes you to find needed repairs so you get more work. We have an install crew but I’m the pipe fitter at my shop as well as a lead service tech. If something needs cut and threaded it’s me that does it lmao.
@@dustinengle2570 kinda funny because when I walk into some shit hole rental property with 1-1/2” galvanized leaking like that on a boiler system I tell them they will need an HVAC tech LOL 😂
If you do heating and refrigeration, you run and braze copper piping for refrigeration units, iron gas pipe for gas appliances, PVC for condensate lines, water piping for ice machines and water cooled condensers.
One thing I can tell you about steam boilers is be careful draining a hot boiler and refilling while still hot. I’ve had a few instances where sending cold water into a hot boiler could shock and crack the boiler.
On the test I had to take to get my special boiler license the answer to draining the boiler is to shut it down and let it cool down before draining it. You can do a blow down while the boiler is hot.
And that is the reason why there are school-based training programs in Germany, Austria and Switzerland. They last 3.5 years, 2 days a week in school and the rest in the company. You learn everything you need to install boilers, air conditioners or ventilation systems, but what you have in the USA is ridiculous.
Plumbers tell you a certain time frame so it lasts just long enough so you dont feel scammed, but they get a call back to fix it soon so they get more money and use the same parts they bought the last time, but charge you a new set.
Hvac tech is a plumber, hvac , electrician, landscaper, framer, contrustion guy, some time therapist. And the guy that gets all the blame for whatever else is happening in the house
i got laid off from a company because i as a hvac guy not trained in plumbing, had a difficult time with a plumbing call. customer wasnt happy and complained. so much for the office having my back.
You can sue for wrongful termination. You were expected to do work out of scope and were provided no training. This works in your favour because they will have to show some sort of training record.
You don’t set limits but your insurance carrier will. If you’re an electrician going around fixing pipes you’ll be on the hook for that. And if your carrier drops you because of it? You’re on the hook for the electric too.
@@manny9323 i'm an electrician and when doing the insurance they ask for my qualifications and approvals for the type of work i do and i'm limited to that. I'd never touch something i'm not insured for even if it may look like a simple job mostly because i know customer's shit is badly maintained and i had colleagues that got screwed up just by ''trying to help''. Most is about electrical instalations that connect to old shit that will crumble and fall apart just by looking at it. I'm an electrician, i'll do the electrical part, you want your central heating/air con/hob/ etc fixed-> call someone that deals with that
It’s called job security. Plenty of work for everyone. Things just flow better when everybody stays in their lane. Obviously we all deviate when the job calls for it but in general a pipefitter should fit pipe, a plumber should plumb, and an service tech should service
Preach brother Preach!!!! Get to the call and it's a HVAC problem, we ask alot of questions because we charge for a service call, to find out it's a HVAC problem so we have to charge them. Lost 30 minutes to get to you to find out what it is and drive another 30 minutes to get back to my area.
Huh? What some typical moronic advice on shorts. Funny because I can't count of how many times I've been to a job right after HVAC were there and claimed they serviced the boiler, when I see evidence all over that they didn't do shit other than watch it light off. Problem is people need to be aware of who they hire and what they specialize in. I'm a service plumber that can service, repair and install both boilers and furnaces. Although I prefer to stick to hydronic. Also you can tell a customer to do a blow down once a month until your voice box bleeds. But 9 times out of 10 they ain't going to shit for shit until the boiler stops working. THAT'S job security.
bud, don't know on what type of world you're living, but the rule that a plumber cannot service a boiler better than a hvac technician you're wrong! I am not talking here about plumbers who spent most of their work changin' toilets and p-traps..a pipe fitter ( steamfitter) knows hydronic ( water base) systems extremely well and if they're broading their knowledge with a gas certification, he's lined up with the hvac at automation and wiring control level..yea when it comes down to AC, refrigerants, cycles,pressures, etc, a plumber should call..a friend 😅
Bro its a boiler not a nuclear reactor. And its an old dum dum boiler at that. If you wanna show the difference between plumbers and HVAC techs why dont you show what a bank of ewc panels with controls for 100 different dampers and humidifiers and pumps/zone valves radiant zones and all their tstats looks like. Now thats some shit i avoid touching. I like piping the radiant tho 😂
And you should NEVER call a plumber to design and install a boiler system unless they are hydronic licensed... So many of my jobs come from customers that discovered this issue...
One out of 10 plumbers can be an HVAC tech. Every HVAC tech can be a plumber, you just have to hit them over the head with a pipe wrench a couple of times first.
I love to see a manual feed system. It means that the homeowner HAS TO BE diligently looking at their system and keeping the water at the correct level. Manually fed boilers last longer because homeowners are used to taking water out when they put water in. That was the procedure thought since back in the day. Systems with automatic feeders are good also but the problem with that is that the homeowner doesn’t have to constantly look at their water level resulting in a neglect of their systems. Automatic feeders can also fail and floor the house. But if a homeowner has a automatic feeder and takes the water out once a week the system should be just as good as a manually fed. And since you ask the question I know you care about your system I’ll give you a nice tip to even make your boiler last longer. Make sure to have (if you already don’t) the boiler being fed HOT WATER instead of cold water. This will add so much life to your boiler. Thank you for the support and ask any questions you may have 💪🏼👍🏼
@@mrr-ee6ui good question. So it depends but it’s the same principle. Essentially you want to find the domestic hot water line coming out from the mixing valve. (The pipe that’s closest to the boiler that feeds your house sinks and showers) and then have a Tee going to the feeder from there. Or if you have a storage tank have the hot water pipe feed the boiler. Basically the hot water pipe that’s feeding into your home that’s where you’d want the boiler to get water from. It’s good to do this because the boiler only needs water when the boiler is at its hottest (because it boiled or steamed the water) so feeding it cold water makes the cast iron fatigued.
@@NYCHvac: Why would it make a difference. The water in the line between the water heater and the boiler would be room temperature. Because of that it would still get the shock of comparatively cold water. Mine has an automatic filler, and I wouldn't expect it to take enough at a time to get past the room temperature water(unless I'm flushing it). That being said, I don't have to think about since it is automatic, so maybe I'd be surprised how much it takes.
this is a salt water boiler system it needs to be trained everyday. There is a label that says drain it by end of day. Needs full maintenance once a year.
I don't look at it as job security. I look at it as screwing over the customer! Why in the hell would you not be able to service a boiler if you are a plumber? And vice versa. You know someone thought a long time ago that it would be a great idea to create two different jobs out of one. When in reality you only needed one.
Same in big part Europe, we are all called plumbers, if you put up contidioner unit, you are plumber, if there is pipe, then you are plumber and you job requaires plumber
Tell them only thing we both do well is Brazing us Plumbers have med gas and HVAC have refrigerant lines stick to your craft and if you don't have a licence don't touch my pipe and if you don't have hvac and epa don't touch hvac , do not let handymen work on no mechanical at all unless you want to swim 😂
@@NYCHvac that's probably cuz you're in a City that's communist-controlled by unions. That's stupid to send two different trucks and two different men out to do a job. Waste of time and the customers money
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I’m a plumber difference between an HVAC guy is I can do their job but they can’t do mine lol. If that didn’t make sense, we can put them together but we can’t service them? Lol I wonder which craft makes more money?
Unless they are trained and certified to do both. I'm certified on a lot of things but, in doing so there are some things I have to double check on occasionally just to double check myself and be sure.
As a plumber I tell em as often as you can, if it's a restaurant always have someone designated to it and have a checklist for weekly stuff I said to do lol
Wrong, a good hvac/r tech is a jack of all trades. I work on everything from boilers to chillers, racks, dehumidifiers, hot water reclaim and everything in between, without a proper understanding of all blue collar work you’ll never truly understand hvac/r.
Funny, when I was an HVAC tech we were expected to be pipefitters, plumbers, commercial and residential technicians, electricians, electronics techs, and controls technicians. Guess that's the 3 man company for you.
@@carljohns46 I install and service all my boilers. This is a process we do around Sept (with new York weather). We don't call a electrician to wire our shit real plumber wire it themselves. The most I've seen hvac people do is work on there own unit. Which plumbers bring the hot water to their units in the basement or attic
boilers ARE ..... PIPE FITTER WORK ........... don't let a plumber rat on your work smfh. ridiculous how many alleged construction works have zero clue about the trade's
I moved from CA to midwest last year. I am in a area where not many boilers and never had one before.....this just taught me, cuz I've been here a year and didn't know about draining it....doh
How is getting that bad? Isn’t the boiler a closed system? I have a boiler and i don’t have these issues, I do need a new boiler because mine is 42 years old and we’re having a new one installed in the next few months.
If a plumber and a HVAC contractor had sex. We could start a race of super workers that know how to do both jobs.
I’ve always said if a plumber and an electrician had a baby that’s what a HVAC comes out 😂😫 but you’d be right with the super workers.
Nah. The little turd would probably turn out to be a sprinkler fitter.
What if they didn’t even procreate and just taught each other about their jobs the whole time? 😂
It happened, he's called Steve Lavimoniere 😂
Called a electrician! 😂😂😂
The difference is the HVAC pro can bite his nails on the way home from work the plumber can’t.
I knew a plumber who always complained how he was in pain yet smoked two packs in an eight hour shift and bit his nails constantly. Pretty sure the dude was balding from how he took care of him self.........never wore gloves
Not all plumbing jobs deal with sewage. Wow
@@beefjuicer4808 sewage is a problem but the chemicals in PVC solvents are probably more damaging to your long term health. Definitely should be wearing gloves for any of it.
We can tell a good tin knocker from a bad one by how many fingers they have
The hell you can . Im an hvac installer and there's some nasty shit
I'm a plumber, Respect to you and your profession.
Likewise brother 💪🏼💯
Spartans! What is your profession!? 😂
@@CIA907Nitro To yell back at you and not answer your question.
27 year mechanic steps into conversation.....hvac, yep, plumbing yep, electrical, yep, IT, yep. Welder yep.etc etc......😅😅😅
@@DieDae NO, NO, NOOOOOOOOOOOO! 😂😂😂
Had an electrician tell me they’re more important than plumbers once. I asked him if he’d rather shit in the dark, or shit on the floor in the corner with the lights on. He walked away.
Lmfaooo that’s a good one
Yes. Sometimes it is best to walk away from a stupid argument being instigated by a stupid person.
Electricians know this. you, however. are clearly not an electrician.
@@illbeyourmonster3591 You’ve already lost when you attack someone’s character instead of a rebuttal to the argument.
@@YoursUntruly Good thing I didn't actually do that. 😅
@@illbeyourmonster3591 “stupid person” haha
As a plumber, I can confirm this. I do not want to be held liable for doing an HVAC job.
are u sure your an actual plumber?
@@jeffreycampagnola1159why are you asking that when they are a certified plumber?🤨 plumbers and hvac professionals are two different professions not the same thing I have four uncle's who work as a hvac technician and two more that work in the plumbing industry how the heck are you you gonna ask someone if they are a professional plumber
If you have to flush your boiler once a week you have bigger problems.
If you don't blow down your boiler (at least) weekly, you will end up with problems.
Yes!
@Yamaszlof Mcdurkin Haha...umm, yeah. I'm a class one, unlimited operator. You can get away with that on a residential boiler for a while, but tomorrow, I'm descaling a four-year-old boiler for that very reason.
@Yamaszlof Mcdurkin That all depends whether it's a hydronic, or a steam boiler.
Yeah thats a steam boiler
There is a difference between "blowing" and "draining" a boiler.
You "blow" the boiler once a week to once a month while it's hot. That is to remove the floaters. You put the water in a bucket to let it cool. About once a year you drain the system after you let it cool. You can open the intake to help wash out the crud on the bottom.
I had a worker that confused draining and blowing. He insisted you should drain it hot. But he melted our sump pump...
I broke a toilet once. Customer told me to throw the water In the toilet like he does. Not realizing there’s a freaking wax seal 😂😂 I guess one bucket of hot water is ok for the wax but I dump 3-4 buckets and it melted the wax
This comment is full of that's what she said's
@@TYPICALTRYHARD_ Why it's difficult to find women working in this industry...
uh...bro...it's BLOW DOWN. Not all boilers are named Monica
I have zero of experience on small residential boilers. Most is on industrial and commercial units. In that area, we’d install a valve specifically for the plant maintenance to blow down once a week. I don’t see how it couldn’t work on a residential application
An HVAC professional can definitely repair that leaking pipe lol. You call a plumber to do all your pipe fitting or something 😂
We can definitely do it but yea we have a install team that does this!
@@NYCHvac I guess I understand that. I originally thought you sub out any pipe fitting lol. The way my shop does it is if I find needed repairs while doing service then that’s my job. Incentivizes you to find needed repairs so you get more work. We have an install crew but I’m the pipe fitter at my shop as well as a lead service tech. If something needs cut and threaded it’s me that does it lmao.
@@dustinengle2570 kinda funny because when I walk into some shit hole rental property with 1-1/2” galvanized leaking like that on a boiler system I tell them they will need an HVAC tech LOL 😂
If you do heating and refrigeration, you run and braze copper piping for refrigeration units, iron gas pipe for gas appliances, PVC for condensate lines, water piping for ice machines and water cooled condensers.
@@aredditor4272this comment is Canadian Redseal approved
Man I heard you talking like the other NYC plumber I watch and I had to subscribe. 😂
Lmao same. They’re probably buddies or something 😂
What's up broskis
@@Learncountry12345or brothers
They got that Nu Yo’k accent
“This shitty nasty leaking pipe over here that’s a plumbers job lmao 🤣
Well yeah. If it's poo it isn't hvacr
That's a boiler line.
Thats not a “shit pipe” its a rusted “clean water” pipe
Yeah it can be a plumbers job. But if a hvac guy is willing to fix it since he’s already there. A lot more he can charge. Vs just passing it on
I'm neither and could fix that pipe.
One thing I can tell you about steam boilers is be careful draining a hot boiler and refilling while still hot. I’ve had a few instances where sending cold water into a hot boiler could shock and crack the boiler.
On the test I had to take to get my special boiler license the answer to draining the boiler is to shut it down and let it cool down before draining it. You can do a blow down while the boiler is hot.
Same for car radiator
I always pipe hot water from the water heater or hot side of coil to fill the boiler,otherwise you will crack it for sure.
I mean in all fairness HVAC Mechanics are more plumbers them plumbers are HVAC Mechanics 🤣
We are also part electrician as well 👀
If I remember correctly in the Navy we blew down the sight glasses daily on the mid watch. Fellow Snipes, if I'm wrong please correct me.
Y’all have steam boilers on the ship !?! If so, what is the fuel it uses ? And thank you for your service 💪🏼💪🏼
Magic hot rocks on my first ship and DFM (diesel fuel marine) on my second.
@@pitsnipee5 lol
Merchant Sailor here, we do top and bottom side blow down daily.
That’s because a plumber shouldn’t be touching any of it that’s the responsibility of a steam fitter / pipe fitter! Not HVAC either
I'm a plumber that specializes in hvac, ac and boiler systems ...
Yeah and I’m an hvac and boiler system that specializes in plumbers. You ain’t so special… especially with your narrow urethra.
Same.
no refrigeration?
Steamfitters, is what you need 😏
I always thought steam fitters are doing foot wide pipes and welding them lol
@@NYCHvac we like small pipes also :D
Unless you're a plumber who's an HVAC technician also. 😮
Rare breed 💪🏼
My union hall is full of them. We are a plumbling/pipefitting and HVAC combined.
And that is the reason why there are school-based training programs in Germany, Austria and Switzerland. They last 3.5 years, 2 days a week in school and the rest in the company. You learn everything you need to install boilers, air conditioners or ventilation systems, but what you have in the USA is ridiculous.
That’s wassup. Our schools here only last less then 2 years and is mostly class room work.
...I need you and NYCPlumb to collab
Plumbers tell you a certain time frame so it lasts just long enough so you dont feel scammed, but they get a call back to fix it soon so they get more money and use the same parts they bought the last time, but charge you a new set.
Hvac tech is a plumber, hvac , electrician, landscaper, framer, contrustion guy, some time therapist. And the guy that gets all the blame for whatever else is happening in the house
Yet the guy couldn't fix a leaking joint.
i got laid off from a company because i as a hvac guy not trained in plumbing, had a difficult time with a plumbing call. customer wasnt happy and complained. so much for the office having my back.
You can sue for wrongful termination. You were expected to do work out of scope and were provided no training. This works in your favour because they will have to show some sort of training record.
@@davidcardinal3654a lot of states are at will states
I don't set limits on what i can repair. Neither should anyone else, IMHO
The same goes for people that don’t know what they’re doing and do it anyway…
A lot of time trades get boxed in by licensing restrictions and insurance.
You don’t set limits but your insurance carrier will. If you’re an electrician going around fixing pipes you’ll be on the hook for that. And if your carrier drops you because of it? You’re on the hook for the electric too.
@@manny9323 i'm an electrician and when doing the insurance they ask for my qualifications and approvals for the type of work i do and i'm limited to that. I'd never touch something i'm not insured for even if it may look like a simple job mostly because i know customer's shit is badly maintained and i had colleagues that got screwed up just by ''trying to help''. Most is about electrical instalations that connect to old shit that will crumble and fall apart just by looking at it. I'm an electrician, i'll do the electrical part, you want your central heating/air con/hob/ etc fixed-> call someone that deals with that
It’s called job security. Plenty of work for everyone. Things just flow better when everybody stays in their lane. Obviously we all deviate when the job calls for it but in general a pipefitter should fit pipe, a plumber should plumb, and an service tech should service
Preach brother Preach!!!! Get to the call and it's a HVAC problem, we ask alot of questions because we charge for a service call, to find out it's a HVAC problem so we have to charge them. Lost 30 minutes to get to you to find out what it is and drive another 30 minutes to get back to my area.
You and broski guy should colab
Please
Huh? What some typical moronic advice on shorts. Funny because I can't count of how many times I've been to a job right after HVAC were there and claimed they serviced the boiler, when I see evidence all over that they didn't do shit other than watch it light off. Problem is people need to be aware of who they hire and what they specialize in. I'm a service plumber that can service, repair and install both boilers and furnaces. Although I prefer to stick to hydronic. Also you can tell a customer to do a blow down once a month until your voice box bleeds. But 9 times out of 10 they ain't going to shit for shit until the boiler stops working. THAT'S job security.
If you have a closed system with treated/demi water then you don't have to flush at all.
Because it doesn't rust
bud, don't know on what type of world you're living, but the rule that a plumber cannot service a boiler better than a hvac technician you're wrong! I am not talking here about plumbers who spent most of their work changin' toilets and p-traps..a pipe fitter ( steamfitter) knows hydronic ( water base) systems extremely well and if they're broading their knowledge with a gas certification, he's lined up with the hvac at automation and wiring control level..yea when it comes down to AC, refrigerants, cycles,pressures, etc, a plumber should call..a friend 😅
Job security is where you agree to be a slave for your entire life
If you don’t have your own business, your a slave your entire life
But in plumbing can you be a well paid slave or decently earning individual especially in the city?
Bro its a boiler not a nuclear reactor. And its an old dum dum boiler at that. If you wanna show the difference between plumbers and HVAC techs why dont you show what a bank of ewc panels with controls for 100 different dampers and humidifiers and pumps/zone valves radiant zones and all their tstats looks like. Now thats some shit i avoid touching. I like piping the radiant tho 😂
And you should NEVER call a plumber to design and install a boiler system unless they are hydronic licensed...
So many of my jobs come from customers that discovered this issue...
Actually Steve lam….. is both and he is in UA-cam. He is certified in all the gas and hvac and pipe fitter crap. Dude does everything.
A plumber is a plumber an electrician is a electrician and an hvac guy does it all!!
Except sewers. The closest HVAC guys get to a sewer is the 3/4” pvc condensation drain pipe.
hvac guys are electricians? should make em run their own conduit and install their own disconnects then lmao
@cornhole8839 Done that. Union standards say to let the professionals do it and I agree.
One out of 10 plumbers can be an HVAC tech. Every HVAC tech can be a plumber, you just have to hit them over the head with a pipe wrench a couple of times first.
I flush mine once a week 52 weeks in a year
What's your opinion on manual feed versus self feed?
I love to see a manual feed system. It means that the homeowner HAS TO BE diligently looking at their system and keeping the water at the correct level. Manually fed boilers last longer because homeowners are used to taking water out when they put water in. That was the procedure thought since back in the day. Systems with automatic feeders are good also but the problem with that is that the homeowner doesn’t have to constantly look at their water level resulting in a neglect of their systems. Automatic feeders can also fail and floor the house. But if a homeowner has a automatic feeder and takes the water out once a week the system should be just as good as a manually fed.
And since you ask the question I know you care about your system I’ll give you a nice tip to even make your boiler last longer. Make sure to have (if you already don’t) the boiler being fed HOT WATER instead of cold water. This will add so much life to your boiler.
Thank you for the support and ask any questions you may have 💪🏼👍🏼
@@NYCHvac am not a heating guy but how do you feed it hot water if your using the boiler to heat the water
@@mrr-ee6ui good question. So it depends but it’s the same principle. Essentially you want to find the domestic hot water line coming out from the mixing valve. (The pipe that’s closest to the boiler that feeds your house sinks and showers) and then have a Tee going to the feeder from there. Or if you have a storage tank have the hot water pipe feed the boiler. Basically the hot water pipe that’s feeding into your home that’s where you’d want the boiler to get water from. It’s good to do this because the boiler only needs water when the boiler is at its hottest (because it boiled or steamed the water) so feeding it cold water makes the cast iron fatigued.
@@mrr-ee6ui: A boiler heats and recirculates water to heat a building, it's not the water heater that heats water for hot water at the faucets.
@@NYCHvac: Why would it make a difference. The water in the line between the water heater and the boiler would be room temperature. Because of that it would still get the shock of comparatively cold water. Mine has an automatic filler, and I wouldn't expect it to take enough at a time to get past the room temperature water(unless I'm flushing it). That being said, I don't have to think about since it is automatic, so maybe I'd be surprised how much it takes.
this is a salt water boiler system it needs to be trained everyday. There is a label that says drain it by end of day. Needs full maintenance once a year.
Absolutely agree, bro, until you said a plumber would have to fix that pipe-we’d do that part too
Yes we can but we work with plumbers who do it for us and we focus on service 👍🏼
Hahaha. True. Service techs shy away from hard work
I don't look at it as job security. I look at it as screwing over the customer! Why in the hell would you not be able to service a boiler if you are a plumber? And vice versa. You know someone thought a long time ago that it would be a great idea to create two different jobs out of one. When in reality you only needed one.
In Australia plumbers do HVAC as a specialty
Same in big part Europe, we are all called plumbers, if you put up contidioner unit, you are plumber, if there is pipe, then you are plumber and you job requaires plumber
Tell them only thing we both do well is Brazing us Plumbers have med gas and HVAC have refrigerant lines stick to your craft and if you don't have a licence don't touch my pipe and if you don't have hvac and epa don't touch hvac , do not let handymen work on no mechanical at all unless you want to swim 😂
😂💯💪🏼
You think med gas is hard? Heat the joint cherry red and force a whole rod into it. Done.
Thought I was listening to traxnyc plumbing 🤣
Fix the damn pipe when you are still there ! Don't be afraid to get that money 🤑
We have plumbers working with us we let them eat too 💪🏼 but if we didn’t you betcha!!!
@@NYCHvac that's probably cuz you're in a City that's communist-controlled by unions. That's stupid to send two different trucks and two different men out to do a job. Waste of time and the customers money
Guess I broke the 4th wall here, cuz I am certified in both. Electrical as well.
I do both broskie
You one of the few good ones 💪🏼👍🏼
All you have to do is read the fokin manual. Don't trust no scammy plumber/hvac guy or dealerships 😂
As an HVAC tech from the south I can say with confidence I do not know what that thing is nor do I want to. 😂
I know and do both. Thats job security.
We need more handymen. Too many ppl sticking to a single trade.
Im might be a shocker but i dint deal with shit as an electrician 😅🤣😂😂
If you're handy enough to be a plumber or a hvac tech you can certainly be both
I am an HVAC plumber.
So if you're a licensed plumber and certified HVAC, you're a superhero?
I would think so.
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I’m a plumber difference between an HVAC guy is I can do their job but they can’t do mine lol. If that didn’t make sense, we can put them together but we can’t service them? Lol I wonder which craft makes more money?
I am glad you said 😂 it, he said can’t service it better!!! Who the fu@& you think put it together. We already know how to install every piece 😂😂
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Thank you I’ll look into that. Always love to learn
And only welders can service the body of a boiler.
If you did both, you would make double the money and deliver a better service, but yea, "job security" and all that right lol
Snoop Dog made this video 😂❤❤
Tube isn't clean flush it that's why there's a tell tale .
They need a water softener befor that boiler,
Plumbers and HVAC aren't boiler technicians either. But I'm speaking of Industrial Boilers which Boilers tech usually service
This is the first time in my life. I've heard somebody say HVAC like that
Lmao fr it irked me every time he said it
Unless they are trained and certified to do both. I'm certified on a lot of things but, in doing so there are some things I have to double check on occasionally just to double check myself and be sure.
Rare breed right there. 💪🏼💯👍🏼
A plumber should be able to fix/flush steam sight glass
I think if you can put something together, you can service it🤔
That should be logical thinking but plumbers Most of the time do not know electrical. They can work a wrench but get lost with a multi meter.
As a plumber I tell em as often as you can, if it's a restaurant always have someone designated to it and have a checklist for weekly stuff I said to do lol
I'm a plumber and I agree 100%. Just sending work your way. Never heard flush it once a week for a boiler now I know and if asked I'll pass it on.
Best heat in the world.
Heating, ventilation and air conditioning is what hvac stands for. WTF does it have to do with a clogged water pipe? 😂....
Stay in your lane! 🤣 If the plumber didn’t become so busy you wouldn’t have a job lmao. Plumber is the original HVAC 😂
Wrong, a good hvac/r tech is a jack of all trades.
I work on everything from boilers to chillers, racks, dehumidifiers, hot water reclaim and everything in between, without a proper understanding of all blue collar work you’ll never truly understand hvac/r.
Why are turd herders touching boilers?
😂😫
@@NYCHvac sounds like a normal thing...here plumbers barely touch residential hot water heaters unless it's to replace them
When you’re a plumber, you only need to remember three things;
1) Shit doesn’t run uphill
2) Don’t eat with your fingers
3) Payday is on Friday
Im a plumber and ill tell you straight up i dont know HVAC at all and i aint pretending. Shit looks hard too.
Funny, when I was an HVAC tech we were expected to be pipefitters, plumbers, commercial and residential technicians, electricians, electronics techs, and controls technicians. Guess that's the 3 man company for you.
Ok Traxxxxxxxxxxx 😂😂 fkn did it again. Giving me knowledge butnwith something else now 😂😂
Nah plumbers say once a month or year for job security...
That’s a fact 😂
I been a plumber for 8 years and I've never seen an HVAC dude touching boilers.
8 years who do you see repair boilers
@@carljohns46 I install and service all my boilers. This is a process we do around Sept (with new York weather). We don't call a electrician to wire our shit real plumber wire it themselves. The most I've seen hvac people do is work on there own unit. Which plumbers bring the hot water to their units in the basement or attic
Came out like me after eating Taco Bell for a month straight.
I must not know anything about HVACs because I didn't know they need boilers
The “plumber” they ain’t calling ……
boilers ARE ..... PIPE FITTER WORK ...........
don't let a plumber rat on your work
smfh. ridiculous how many alleged construction works
have zero clue about the trade's
I moved from CA to midwest last year. I am in a area where not many boilers and never had one before.....this just taught me, cuz I've been here a year and didn't know about draining it....doh
Pipe taken care of by a plumber? That’s hvac period! More like hvac service vs hvac install
Is that Snoop Dogg's voice? Talking about pipes 😉
Just let that dirty water drain right on the flexible metal conduit 🤦♂️
But yet he needs a plumber to come repair it😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Plumbers like to sell you a new one 😂
All the time 😂
How is getting that bad? Isn’t the boiler a closed system? I have a boiler and i don’t have these issues, I do need a new boiler because mine is 42 years old and we’re having a new one installed in the next few months.
Well unless you are both of those traits are not incomparable you are capable of learning both trades 🤷
I guess you never heard of someone who's actually trained and experienced in both plumbing AND HVAC..... THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX!
That is such an old system.
Nowadays it drains through a 20mm condense pipe in to a fanny trap
No we are Not hvac professionals I can't tell you how true this is, great video
It's true.
Although I would argue that HVAC techs know more about plumbing than plumbers know of HVAC. Hydronics.
No the real reason why they tell you To Do. This is so it ends up like that's a call them back to fix the stupid thing.😂
When he started talkin im like damn when did TraxNYC start doing plumbing jobs😂😂😂😂💀💀damn New Yorkers
Of course they tell you the wrong maintenance... They want the call back😂
I know plenty of guys who work for mechanical contractors and can do both.
Low water cut off switch will trip sometimes if you drain it that fast
This is wrong... plumbing and HVAC overlap and it totally depends on your tech.... blanket statements like this are just wrong