100 Yard Precision Rifle Training With SG Concepts Target | Ft. Lucas
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2025
- In this video, Lucas uses the SG Concepts Circles target to train with his precision rifle. Most of the time 100 yards is all you need to train effectively.
I love the long range content and can’t get enough of it. The long range gear content is a blast to watch.
Loving the long range content, keep it coming!
I had the pleasure of meeting AND being scored by Sean and Greg at my first team sniper challenge back in August. It was like having Michael Phelps watch you fail your swim test, but those are some good dudes who are phenomenal at what they do.
Had some drinks with your partner Yote at the only restaurant in town between the first and second day, as well. Another phenomenal shooter
The fundamentals are absolutely what trips most guys up when they press out to distance, particularly beyond 500 yards. Modern cartridges, and modern rifles can compensate for a lack of fundamental discipline inside of 500 yards. The absolute BIGGEST thing I see when I take guys out beyond that distance however, is not being able to take into account external ballistics. Temperature and wind in particular.
I like the idea of this as a drill to nail down breath control, building a shooting position, trigger control, and general consistency. However I would disagree on the premise that “you only need 100 yards”. It’s a bummer that there aren’t more facilities that accommodate 800 + yard shooting, but in my experience, the only way to get good shooting at those distances, is to go shoot at those distances.
This is very true. My local range that is only 10 minutes down the road goes out to 400 yards and has full a full size IPSC down to 1 MOA target at 300 and 400 with an array of PRS style objects to shoot from. I get the craziest looks when I spend hours just dry firing lol. to push it out to 1000 yards I have to drive a minimum of 1.5 hours which I normally will do the weekend before a match.
@@zachary837 yup, we have a 1 MOA gong at 550 yards (technically like .9 MOA because it’s a 5” plate but still). I can typically make a hit on it within 4 shots from cold bore, depending on environmentals, sometimes as little as 2 rounds, other times as many as 4. Just depends. But I have taken guys out to that range who have never shot beyond say, 200 yards, and they struggle to make consistent hits on Turkey sized silhouettes at 400. Take those same guys out 800 or so and pretty much universally what I hear when I provide a wind call is “there’s not that much wind”. Guys just don’t understand innately the flight characteristics of projectiles at those distances, it’s a learned skill. Inside of 500 like I said, most modern cartridges and rifles can really do a lot to supplement a lack of control over the fundamentals, but at longer distances where external ballistics become an Omni-present factor, they struggle in a big way. Recently made a video with my fiancée on my channel of her making a first round impact at 606 yards, and then another at 630 yards. Granted it was on a rifle that I have good DOPE for and I made the wind calls for her, but still, she executed the fundamentals well and was able to make those hits. I have taken guys out who think they know their setup well who can’t make hits with any kind of consistency at that distance purely based on lack of external ballistics knowledge.
Spoken like a true novice.
There’s guys out there winning 2 day PRS matches with average distance being 600yds. And almost all of them are doing it with mostly 100yds and sometimes around 400yds.
Modern devices like Kestrels or even your phone handle all the exterior ballistics for you. Sure, wind at the target will be different than at the shooter, but wind at distance is far less important than wind at the shooter (huge myth that it’s the other way around).
And most modern cartridges are performing much better in the wind than older stuff.
Source: I competed for almost a decade and instructor at one of the most popular rifle training sites in the U.S. And I still work behind a rifle.
Your fundamentals will let you don’t 100x more than your ability to call wind. And it’s not even remotely close.
@@guyandagun LOLOLOL. Of course if you take a 550yd 1moa target and put it at 800yds it’s going to be harder to hit.
Precision is definitely a thinking game.
Great advice! I’ve been looking for a way to better practice my barricade shooting; will definitely be trying this 😎
When you’re in the match, just imagine your team yelling “hit yoour shawts, Kid!” Into your MSA’s
me starring waiting on those 2 match saver rounds too fall out the sleeve. 👀
Hasn’t had that yet, but wouldn’t surprise me if it happens
You should 100% do a Kraft drill. It’ll show you what you and your gun are actually capable of together.
over hyped
Good stuff. I'm of course here for the comments about long range. lol Also, check out the Kraft Drill from Chris Way. His research has found that the vast majority of shooters can only shoot 3-4MOA at 100Y from positional shots.
Awesome, thank you !
Dude, you've come a long way from the lead sled. Awesome to see.
Quick tip for zeroing. If you zero at 25 yards it'll be pretty close at 300y. So I usually zero at 25 and remove 1 Mil when I move to 100 yards then fine tune.
Really great drill with only a few rounds.
More of this please
Zesty gun tube is wild 😂
Ive been using the Range Day app. I love it! Adding custom drills is easy
Glad to hear that!
More of this content please 👍
Another great video. Thank you.
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Cool target 👍, however, I will actually be using this for 25 yard pistol drills because I don't own a precision rifle.
Honestly a great idea, I’m going to do the same for my next pistol day
link to the target?
Fr, I can’t find it at all
@@ryanvalenciano2261 okay cool glad i am not the only one, i looked all over SG website
on trex website duh lol
www.trex-arms.com/store/gambling-for-points-sg-concepts/
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At some point I’d love to see this sort of thing but with more of a “budget” setup
Tell us about the new pistol holster you are wearing? I saw somewhere that you were working on a new holster with retention? When will it be available?
Great content as always
More Long range work please!
The rimfire versions of the NRL (NRL22) and PRS (PRS Rimfire) are a great option for those interested in the precision game. The entry level is more approachable for new shooters, fundamentals and skills all transfer, best part is there are tons more matches (depending on the location).
Can't recommend this enough. Easy to get into long range competition for under $1k this way and see if its for you. Even then, most of my LR stuff is rimfire since it's an economical way to get reps in at 100 yards.
Awesome video 🤜🏼🤛🏼
Good for fundamentals, once fundamentals are solid most long range misses are from bad wind calls
Not sure if its UA-cam or what but i keep having to subscribe
UA-cam. They don’t like us
@TREXTraining are all your channel's on Instagram?
Who do you think is tasked with picking up all that brass??
I kinda want to get into PRS, but man, what a rabbit hole! That's a lot of dollars and 'tism to spend.
I feel the "come on" I know how frustrating those shots especially position shooting.
Id love to see a bare bones setup compared performance. Not everyone looks at buying a 4k setup as an asset. What's the cheapest rifle /optic setup with the same relative performance? Something like a Ruger American with some strike eagle glass (or whatever). Is there a story to be told for someone spending 1500$ in this performance class?
X-ring has a video of taking a little ofe $800 set up to 1000 and then a mile, about a month ago. Eagle Eye Shooting has “The Two Best Upgrades to a Factory Rifle” 3 years ago.
@@charlesmckinley29 Good call out Thank You!
Awesome IRL
I want that rangefinder
what brand of jeggings do i need
Very nice! What bipod are you using?
one of the MDT sky pods
A level 2 or 3 retention TRex holster is great but I trashed my Ragnarok for spare parts bc that ledge interfered with my upward draw on my middle finger. Deeply hope that design doesn't stick moving forward. Omw to use this drill though!
Try cutting it off.....the other two bolts below keep things retained like everyother competition holster......that's what I did, and it works great.....then Brantley M. did a Trex belt setup video and he showed he did the same.......check out the video..
@practicepractice5719 very cool, appreciate that. I'll dig it out and if it's salvageable I'll give it a shot.
@@KungFu_JamaisVu 👍 I 100% agree with how the design of the holster interferes with getting a good/fast grip with middle finger 👌.
I guess it’s just not a competition holster. 👍
Would be cooler if you used a Henry supreme
Is it possible to know Brand of rifle and chassis plz ? Could be that I missed it , because it Looks Like a remington or ?
is that an early version of the ready rig or something else entirely?
Something new
You fight like you train. 1000 is very different than 100.
Then why be on the flat range at all?
whats the color of the rifle? anybody knows?
Unfortunately for me, I live in a state that has 1 one hundred yard range. And it’s part of a club that requires a sponsor.
😂😂😂😂 no way
is that a wilcox on top?
MARS-L
Does your wife know you're wearing her pants? Just messin', cool vid!
Do they ever clean up that brass? Police call is needed.
Brass and gravel is the vibe. Lol
100 yard range and you can’t get tight groups? 😂😂😂😂. Keep going
This isn’t group shooting
Bino pouch, where to cop?
It’s a Shaw concepts BFG pouch
Can anybody find the target on their website?
Can’t find shit
www.trex-arms.com/store/gambling-for-points-sg-concepts/
Nice video for napping
Wouldn’t the issue here be that you zeroed at 100 before from the previous drills and not height over bore?
Being zeroed at 100 while shooting at 50 is height over bore.
100 yards I do have.🤔
Poundsterling
4-20x vs 5-25x atacr for this type of gun? The Hide says the 5-25 is the worst atacr scope, optics wise? Any thoughts?
This is a 7-35. I shoot a lot on 12-15x, the most I’ve gone up is probably 23. Having the option to go further, but also have more glass clarity at higher magnifications has been great. If you want to dabble in the 5-25 range, look into the 2.5-20.
Just get a 4 to 14 shv there's barely any difference in the glass or turrets and it's $1,000 less expensive
@@TREXTraining thanks for the input
@@mrs.vasquezz the 4-16x atacr is currently my favorite scope.
@johnm6736 neat
On positional shooting it looks like your over gripping the gun with your 3 fingers. My advice is let the gun shoot let your trigger finger do all the work 🔥 cheers 🍻
Will try that next time. Thanks!
So this means you are using a 100yard zero. Right?
Haha he realized it @9:46
100m zero; yes.
False. Wind has practically
Honest question, but with a factory gun and factory ammo, is hitting 1/2 inch target at 100y/100m a reliable metric to use in scoring one's self to?
If you are shooting a 1MOA gun at a 0.5MOA target, you will hit the 0.5MOA target about 1/5 of the time or so, just given the natural dispersion of the system - but that's not shooter skill being measured, it's within the noise of the dispersion of the system and doesn't actually demonstrating anything.
Now, I'm not saying that's a factor with YOUR rifle, Lucas, I don't know enough about the rifle/ammo setup you have. However, for most of us who buy off the shelf, realistically a 3inch, 2inch, and 1.5inch target setup would be more realistic given the dispersion patterns that such off the shelf rifle/ammo combinations can achieve.
If you’re shooting a gun that’s only capable of 1 moa you shouldn’t be shooting anything under 1 moa. Most bolt guns have a guarantee of sub moa or .5 moa.
@guntotinhippie7384 most guns garentee sub moa. Meaning anything less than 1 moa at 100. Very very few rifles have any garentee of better accuracy than that. Also barrel and barrel thickness matter.
Newer ammo helps allot. As much as people love to trash in 6.5 creed and call it the "needmore" its very hard to get out of the box accuracy like you can 6.5 because of the cartridges inherent design. Then you get a rifle with a thick and longer barrel built a bit better than most hunting rifles you can get half an inch fairly easy. I have a remington 700 in 223 that loves 53 grain and did half an inch at 100 and my 6.5 creedmore with 140 grain eld match that i bought from cabelas was doing .25 inches at 100. Of course reloading makes it more accurate but you see the most benefit reloading out of cartridges like 308
@crownmember560 They make these guarantees, but they are outright lies and utter nonsense and play off of the average buyers misunderstanding of how accuracy and precision works in a rifle system. You'll never see this in reality if you test the dispersion of your off the shelf rifle. Pick any you like with a "sub moa guarantee" and do a 30 round dispersion test with as much cool down time as you like between shots and mags, with the guns favorite ammo and you'll get about 1.2-1.5" dispersion out of the gun. Some will be even worse.
@ yeah I mean the guarantees are generally 3-5 shot groups with match ammo
You only need $12,000+ rifle to shoot 100yrds?
It was a joke
*Flops the match with an $18000 rifle & a $11,000 WMLRF*......and you're worried about $65 in ammo??
Who said I was worried about the ammo?
@@TREXTraining LOL: 10:43
But my CODBO airsoft L96 only shoots 50yds
What magnification were you using?
15x ish. Or less
The 100 yard doofus run on every video is why I watch.
Good
Where can we find these targets?
www.trex-arms.com/store/gambling-for-points-sg-concepts/
You actually have a Surgeon SRL not the CSR. There are some differences the most obvious difference being cerakote on SRL’s racs chassis vs the CSR’s anodized racs chassis.
lol that’s not the rifle that’s the chassis. On their own website they quote the csr as ceracoated
This is one of the 12 CSRs on the open market.
@@TREXTraining hats off to you guys man. Truly love watching the content. It’s enough to keep my gun obsession from spending money I don’t have lol. I just finished my block 2 recce spr build. It’s a total Frankenstein that took 6 years and a little over 6k to complete. I adore it and want an LMT mars H next so bad. But I gotta wait. Have a wife and baby to support on my income alone so I gotta be patient.
@@T20-c8fthe chassis is the Remington RACS. Nice attempt at correcting me though. SRL stands for Surgeon RACS Limited it isn’t a chassis it’s a rifle.
@@TREXTrainingThere are more than 12 CSR’s in the open market but there are only 12 SRL’s that were available to the open market. The SRL was the CSR with the RACS chassis that were sold to the Civ and LE market. The USASOC CSR and CTSR are the ones with anodized RACS chassis.
Do y'all have a video explaining the reasoning for not training civilians, as civilians? Or was I lied to about that?
Lied too. I’m not even a full time instructor. If I didn’t train civilians I wouldn’t be making hundreds of training videos a year available to them lol
@TREXTraining That's what I said. Thank you for directly answering, so now I can do the same with confidence. Take care.
As a retired US army sniper, I'd love to attend one of your training classes just to see what I can learn from a civilian. I know it's a different point of view and different teaching techniques.
Buuuuttttt what ammo?
Federal gold medal 140g SMK
@@TREXTraining Pretty consistent ammo, I'd say!
He said it in the video you’re just not paying attention
Yards*
uhhh did he seriously try to trademark black dots on paper.... wow lol. I'm gonna have to look up these clowns at sg concepts.
Nothing is trademarked. Where was that stated?
War
Zero npa😂
Learn to shoot with both eyes open
Not happening on magnified glass. I’m left eye dominant.
100 yards is incredibly boring, even with a .22lr.
Then do it faster or from harder positions
You aren't making it hard enough on yourself then. Do a sprint from shooting position about 50 yards or 100 your choice away. If you are careful and have noone around you can sprint too target and back or pack rifle with you when you get back to position shoot off something to support your rifle like a barricade or tripod/bipod but dont do prone position and make your target 1 inch diameter at most and every time you hit make yourself run again until you cant. Good for cardio as well as trying to control you're breathing as well as just making what used to be easy now much harder.
Let me see you complete a Kraft drill at 100 yards and stay under 1 moa lol
@opturnip what is the kraft drill? I wanna check it out :)
@@crownember560 ua-cam.com/video/_BOpyVD_8Q4/v-deo.htmlsi=cvmvKrmVWlTvNu_H
"Gambling" aspect is dumb.
What rifle
Where can we get that target?
www.trex-arms.com/store/gambling-for-points-sg-concepts/