That stupid woman must not win! We need to all chip in and send Scott to Teufelsberg!!! Sorry to hear about it mate, I often get treated like a criminal trying to make UA-cam videos, but your experience takes it to the next level!
Perhaps going with someone else just to be extra safe? If only there was another UA-camr from that part of the world that films excellent videos exploring other parts of Europe…
No idea how you took that so graciously! That lady should be ashamed of herself, inventing lies in her own head and telling them to the police. But props to you for shrugging it off with a smile :)
My God!!! What a dreadful experience!!! That lady is as sickening as a paedophile and absolutely should be fined, cautioned, punished should she try a stunt like that again.
@@johnwpolsce9401 I think much more than that is needed. A person *cannot make utterly false allegations* of that most despicable heinous nature, they are the most serious of personal allegations you can make, and there has to be at least some grounds, some kind of problem, which after investigation would have to have been at the very very least, a rational question. And if as in this case it’s clearly not - there is due a punishment.
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German here, who lived a couple of years in Berlin. Berlin is somehow a strange place, when it comes to tourists and filming. Everywhere else in Germany, there are areas that are clearly touristy areas and Germans there do totally understand that tourists want to make some pictures or videos, because we do the same when we are on vacation elsewhere. So, visit the Ostsee or Nordsee or alpine tourist areas and people will just mind their business, as long as you don't film them in their faces. On the other side, there are lots of areas in Germany, that seldomly see tourists and where normal people just live. And seeing someone with a camera walking through that area and filming it would seem a bit suspicious. I bet, it's the same in your country - imagine for example - how normal it would be to film times square in New York, while filming a normal street in suburbia somewhere in Alabama might get you into problems. And, as I said, Berlin is a bit strange in that regards, because it is definetelly a touristy area and thus it should be normal place for tourists to film and take pictures, but some locals have the same mindset as in a small town or village. Back, when I lived in Berlin, this stood out to me as well as a couple of other people who also weren't originally from there: Berliners are basically Hillbillies living in the largest city of the country.
Hey as a Berliner, I'm really sorry for your experience. I can in no way understand how it is legal for the policemen to take you to the station and more or less forbid you to go on with your trip to Teufelsberg.
Didn't you understand the video? There had been a claim that he had improperly staked out children - are you surprised they investigated this? They did their job, apparently in correct form, and let him go soon enough once they had established the accusation was bogus. 10/10, I'd say. I hope he reported her for falsely accusing him.
That kind of crazed Germans put me off visiting Germany to be honest. I even fly to Austria and Switzerland these days. It never involved the police but there is a group of Germans who can't mind their business. It gives you credit you did not report her. To be honest, I probably would....
He was "cooperating" that is the difference. He said in the video that police was very nice to him. Not caught in the act, not in the border zone, he has no business of talking with the police.
@@littlebrit There was a witness reporting him, and that counts as evidence and is enough to hold him for investigations. He could have refused to cooperate - then, he'd probably been held and his camera seized as evidence. It would have just dragged out the situation and made it more unpleasant than necessary.
Well, that was certainly unexpected. Whilst the woman on the train might have mental health issues (which potentially impacts all those around her), it's very alarming that an innocent tourist could be taken that swiftly to the police on hearsay and that they would warn you off continuing with your journey. We watched the video yesterday and are still talking about what happened to you today.
The police are obliged to investigate any complaint. What if he had been a paedo? As it happens, they detained him whilst they investigated, found he was innocent and t released him. Advising him to leave the area was probably for his own good as it avoided any further incident with the woman who reported him to the Police.
I think the moral of the story is not to video in public where your intention could be misunderstood, especially with regard to children and young women. His aim was to video at Teufelsberg, so videoing on public transport was not necessary. The Police have a difficult job and clearly want to prevent a breach of the peace. They may well not have had enough reason to detain the woman, but at the same could not be sure what she might incite in any further encounter with the man she falsely accused. Never under estimate the mob vigilante mentality. @px712uf-public
Agreed but ONE thing and please be very careful with the use of language. That is tarring EVERYONE with mental health issues like that lady who clearly got it wrong . PLEASE DO NOT DO THAT,thanks.
That's crap, I'm sorry you went through that. Why do some people think that just because we have cameras it must mean we are Paedos. I hope she gets a telling off (being polite) from the Police for that.
I have a feeling I may know who that was. She is well known to anyone who travels between Heerstr and Kladow. A positive out of this for me was that you appeared in my feed, and I have subbed! You have a lot of content that is right up my alley.
Sorry to hear about this experience you had in Germany Scott the main thing is you were not in the wrong and you can continue to film content that your subscribers enjoy keep up the good work take care and stay safe
Sorry to see this, Scott! Germany has some unusual privacy laws which seem strange to us but which have been informed by, shall we put it diplomatically, a probably justified scepticism of both the state and private individuals holding data or images of private citizens. It is entirely legal to film on a train, although if you capture images of people the individual does technically have the right to decide on the use of that image. This is actually a constitutional right under the Basic Law of Germany, which gives you an idea of the place that private filming has in the German psyche. That woman sounded like a bit of a nutter though, and I haven't had any issues filming in Germany myself - thankfully! Hopefully you'll get Teufelsberg on film some day!
Thanks Paul. I knew they were strict because if you look at Google Streetview, much of the country isnt included, and what is has many buildings pixalated or blurred out. Oh well, I learned a lesson and avoided being put on Interpols records!
Germany is always a bit weird about filming. They take privacy very seriously and are suspicious of cameras. Look how long it took to get full Google Streetview coverage.
@@stephenhester9804Germany basically told Google to knock it off. Took them years and years of wrangling to get it sorted. It's still really common on German Street View to see homes blurred out. When I was in Berlin, a tour guide told us that there was an unusually low number of surveillance cameras in the country compared to most Western nations because of German privacy laws. I don't know how true that is, but he was German and he said it.
Strewth mate been to Berlin a few times never happened to me, even back in the days of Ost and West Berlin, reminds me of the time I wanted to Photograph the Train back to HKG in Guangzhou, where I was unceremoniously marched to my seat in the Train by a, I assume, PSB officer and placed in my seat, on the way I was being escorted past a Tour group of Elderly Tourists and one of them said "told you he looked shifty." Ahh the perils of independent Travel and Photography, glad to see they didn't deposit you in Spandau Prison, if its still there. Great Vids keep them coming Scott, I am sure we could have had a "whip round" for your bail. lol 😉
One day in the summer of 2023, while I was minding my own business, two boys (14 years old, I think) followed me and accused me of filming them in a backyard near my apartment. I told them I was just talking to some friends and then to my dad, holding up my rather large smartphone to better hear the voice messages. After I told them that, they disappeared pretty quickly into a local supermarket. But I tell you, even now that I've lived here > 25 years in the same area and have a very good reputation (like a businessman), I was very scared. Today I think about it, because their single mothers are probably to blame for this stupidity. I'm much more careful now, but I don't let these crazy people tell me what I should or can do.
Your great at what you do your subscribers along with myself enjoy your channel and the content, don't let one crazy woman put you off filming, you are discrete with your filming, stay safe and well Scott.
Scott I feel your pain with Police experience I’m a retired Scotsman living in Poland and have had a couple of incidents with the Polish Police all were unfounded however due to the language barrier was very stressful at the time ❤
@@Matty12333 My 2 situations were a dispute over a taxi fare where the driver demanded 3 times more than the normal fare He called the police End result I was charged with Fraud !! Had to pay fare plus court costs Second time was a homeless guy tried to steal my phone and watch , with help of others around managed to restrain the guy : Police arrived and let him go with no arrest / charge I felt as though I was the Thief
@@andrewgalt3964 I remember once in poland, i visited a church and i accidentally forgot to take my cap off. The person on the door was very nasty about it, i was suprised he didn't call the police. However, everyone else i interacted with were friendly and respectful
That's a very unfortunate experience. I was in a supermarket in Berlin a few years ago and some crazy lady gave out to me for destroying the planet because I asked the cashier for a plastic bag. It might have been the same women :)
I am from Germany and I can say that we have some people hoo are a little bit nervous about people filming and taking fotos in some places. So I think you were just at the wrong place in the wrong time. I hope you will see the Teufelsberg someday. Have a nice day and happy traveling 👋 Greatings MDG.
The density of madmen and incompetent police officers is highest in Berlin. Berlin - one can only say: You are leaving the German sector! And something like this is the federal capital. Schande!
Haha, sorry for your experience but I've been waiting for one of the UA-camrs I follow to be accused of something like this in this weird world we now live in! Keep up the good and interesting vlogs 👍
My opinion: there are far more crazy people in Berlin compared to nearly all other German cities. More crazy people per 100,000 people in Berlin than anywhere else. That strange woman who reported you to the police, for example. I personally like Koln, Hamburg, and Hanover more than Berlin.
I love Germany and German people but i have to admit that Germany has changed over the past 30 years since first went there. I was over in June to Dusseldorf and i can tell you it was an eye opener and it was nothing to do with Germans. I know Germany has a stong Turkish community but this year it seems to be over run with them now. They hang about in large groups outside kiosks and train stations and make you feel very uncomfortable.
Never mind, Scott. Keep making the videos. As you know, in Scotland we often complain about lack of policing. You were innocent so had nothing to hide. They were only doing their job.
This happened twice to me last year when I was touring Germany. First in Düsseldorf when I saw a very old tram. I videoed it outside the main station and a woman with kids inside the tram called the police. I was taken to a nearby station and they wanted to see the footage. Although it was innocent they demanded I delete the video, under German privacy law this can happen. A week later on the island of Rugen we rented bikes and I photographed my friend on a promenade cycling towards me. A German father with kids got angry thinking I was taking pics of his kids and we tried to cycle off. The father pulled me violently off my bike and held me in a headlock while his wife called the police who took more than a hour to come. When they did all they wanted to do is see the photos on my camera - none had the man and his family in as I had zoomed into my friend to avoid other people in the shots. Nobody apologised and the police even said the father had the right to hold me as he perceived his family to be in danger! These episode really annoyed me and made me think Germans are all insanely paranoid.
A foreigner with a backpack filming in Germany's most popular tourist city... Hmmm, how suspicious! You really set yourself up for a brush with the law with this one Scott...🤔🤦😁
That's insane. People should mind their own business instead of snitching on others. She probably was an Ossie and an ex-Stasi snitch. I did make it up to Teufelsberg a few weeks ago after 20+ years of visiting Berlin - the views from up there were alone worth the trek! PS. Love how you pronounce "Teufelsberg", very ungermanish :D
This actually reminds me of an incident in Stockholm years and years ago - I took a photo of some random buildng (I think it was the Stockholm Central Library) and soon a young lady comes to me and asks whether I took a picture of her. I said no, of that building over there - "Good as I believe that a picture will steal your soul. If the picture has me in it, please delete it." I was baffled over it. This wasn't Papua-New Guinea but a highly developed society...
The area arount S-Bahn Heerstr is mostly empty. The forest and the Teufelberg the only, not overcrowded atraction. A man with a camera and grey hair is easy to find.
I was stationed in Berlin when Teufelsberg was built, in the seventies, for specific purposes and various people from where I worked were moved to it. I would love to know if it is still manned and in use.
I thought you handled it well for the episode but an experience like that is wounding. So filming a Go Pro out of a train window is grounds enough for somebody to report you. Not happy that a nice guy like you had to go though that.
I was 'told off' by airport staff for taking a photo of me boarding a plane in Dusseldorf .... I was shocked by their over reaction (I know you can't take photos in certain areas like passport control, security and customs at any airport). No one anywhere else has ever said anything when climbing the steps to the plane before in any other country. Very odd.
Next time avoid her by going on an S7 to Grunewald, about the same walk to Teufelsberg. You could then visit the Gleis 17 memorial at Grunewald station as well.
Remember Germany was the country where Google Street View was banned for years because 1 insignificant village complained about their privacy and the rest of Germany jumped on the bandwagon.
People are so quick to jump to conclusions. I'm only surprised you don't get more aggro. These so called ' auditors' are to blame.They go round with a camera and get into all kinds of aggro. But nobody could be better mannered that you Scot. Perfect gent if ever there was one.
Scott, you're not the only UA-camr who has reported the paranoia in Germany, surrounding cameras. As a Street Photographer, I'm sure I would soon find myself in the deep end. One Street Photographer found himself surrounded by an angry mob in Hamburg, while attempting a time-consuming composition. Thankfully, the paranoia seems to be confined to Germany for some reason. Why? What is it about Germany and such profound paranoia? That's a question we would all like an answer to.
It’s probably as a result of history and living under two very oppressive regimes (in the east anyway) in the living memories of a lot of people in Germany. As a result, they strongly value their privacy.
@@laurengilmour116 I'm inclined to agree. Whenever I've visited previously oppressed communist countries, I've found the societies to sometimes be a little "odd" that takes time to get used to. Paris, for instance, where communism is still very profound, makes my eyes water.
Do go there, you'll not regret it. I was last there in 2011 and had to find a hole in the chain link fence to get in. Being there early in the morning, it certainly felt "edgy" to have the place almost to myself, with access to every part of it and no concerns about public safety. I hope it's not changed too much.
I had a similar situation in Zurich. I took a photo of a Railjet I had just left after arriving into Zurich and then went to store my luggage in some SBB luggage lockers, where I was approached by a police officer from the Cantonal Police of Zurich and he asked me the purpose of my visit in Switzerland, and why did I picture that train
hi sorry for your unfortunate encounter, it seems to happen to all of us at some stage, i hope you will not be put off by this and continue to entertain all of your fans and i look forward to the next trip Leon
Lived in Berlin for a 18 months playing in a band and totally had a super time but the world is a a changed place with everyone on tenterhooks...not good.
Hi Scot that must of been a horrible experience. Hope you can salvage something of Berlin.Having been to Berlin many times , I’m always looking for something new to do . Not sure if you have been to Potsdam not far away but I highly recommend a visit if you haven’t been.
so disgraceful that some creepy weirdos always assume an old youtuber is a pedo just of your age 😑 you’re one of my favourite youtubers and its so inspirational that you’re doing this amazing channel at an old age
She would hate to be anywhere in Scotland as there are CCTV cameras everywhere filming you at all times, most cameras particularly on street lights have no information on who is recording your images or why
People should be seriously reprimanded when falsely accusing people of such crimes in such a public way, in some country’s people tend to take things into their own hands and this could have easily spiralled out of control.
I lived in DE for almost 20 years. Busybodies exist everywhere. These people make up for what is missing in their life by trying to spread the chaos. Don’t let it stop you in Germany, it is a country full of wonderful and welcoming people. Idiots exist everywhere.
What a horrible experience. What is it about GoPros and other types of vlogging cameras that either bring out the nutters or the security people in high-viz jackets wanting to have a go at us? I bet if you’d been using an iPhone psycho-lady probably wouldn’t even have noticed! 🤔
Oh no, that doesn't sound like a very pleasant experience at all! I hope you are able to get to Teufelsberg at some point in the future, with your camera and without any 'crazy' ladies in your way. The police obviously have to take these claims seriously, but I am glad they saw you for the travel enthusiast you are! I've never been to Germany but since starting to learn German I've absorbed a fair bit about the culture - German folk definitely seem to be more private/suspicious when it comes to cameras/filming, and life in general actually! I can't help but wonder if that's partly due to either them or family members having lived or heard of living under at least one totalitarian regime, but maybe other cultural factors too? Anyway, let's hope this was a 'blip' in your journey and onwards and forwards to the next one!
Went to Berlin in 2010s with family in tow. At the train station, the first in line taxi driver claimed he did not have a child seat, so he declined to take us. The next 3-4 drivers did the same thing. The Sikh driver had no issue compared to the Central /East European ones. The Sikh driver said he had not hear of such thing about not having child seats, but I know when there is profiling. Not my first rodeo… We did have a nice 3 days in Berlin and the locals were polite. The Sikh driver got a standard US tip.
Good grief, how bizarre. I’ve lived here 30 years and never heard of anything so strange happening. Sure there are quite a lot of weird people who can also be quite aggressive on occasion (the Berliners are fairly proud of their mouthiness) but calling the police is a whole different ball game. And there are plenty of people shooting UA-cam material with selfie sticks here so hardly a new phenomenon. Please do come back and get to Teufelsberg at some point in the future - it’s great on a windy day when people are flying kites, and absolutely bonkers with the fireworks at New Year. I personally really dislike that walk from Heerstrasse though, so we tend to go there by car.
There are really "Karen" (called such person in US with unexplainable behavior) who will ruin your walk, endeavor, or project. Good you were not held long. Take care!
You can't around making false accusations, as she did. Very irrational, or perhaps someone who has mental health issues. Despite that, very upsetting. Adding my support to you.
Berlin is amazing, I’ve lived here for 15 years and have never had any problems. He also said the policemen were friendly and just doing their job. Of course this whole thing is very unfortunate but that doesn’t mean Berlin is not great.
Did this happen to you, on Friday 13th??. Sorry for your bad experience in Berlin. I'm very surprised the German police followed a guy with a camera, in 2023, just because of a crazy woman complaining. You have a GREAT UA-cam channel!.
Hey, once I was in Groningen, NL, where I had my Erasmus for many months. What happended is that once I was making pictures of the interior of EHGG and policemen came to me and I had to explain myself on why I was making pictures and what was I doing there. I had to show my 2nd Twitter account to prove them that I am doing nothing wrong and that I make pictures of aircraft...
Sorry to hear about your experience, Scott. People are just over-sensitive nowardays to filming, especially kids playing. In my day there way nothing wrong about taking innocent photos even if there were kids in it. Yes, the woman was a bit crazy, but hasn't this WOKE madness gone too far? Best wishes and keep making the videos.
People can be over-sensitive but what’s woke got to do with this? In your day no doubt some of the kiddy fiddlers were talking “innocent” photos. And you could go to the pictures, get two stone of monkey nuts, 10 woodbines, 15 pints, fish and chips and still have change out of a farthing.
Berlin has pretty good public transport - trouble is that while you're on one of the trains, you're exposed to more than the usual share of beggars and fruitcakes, some just mildly annoying, some downright aggressive. Ignoring her was the right reaction - you just were unlucky she got hold of policemen who didn't realize immediately that she was nuts. It's one of the worst accusations she could have made against a mild mannered elderly gentleman, so the police just couldn't not investigate. Don't be sad about missing Teufelsberg, though. The best thing is the view on Berlin from the hilltop - the rotting military installation is a bit of a disappointment. There may be some interesting cold war folklore about it but nowadays, it's in a really bad shape and the new owner has fenced it off and tries to collect a totally unjustified entrance fee.
That stupid woman must not win! We need to all chip in and send Scott to Teufelsberg!!! Sorry to hear about it mate, I often get treated like a criminal trying to make UA-cam videos, but your experience takes it to the next level!
Well said Steve 👏
Send me the link to send him on his way
Agreed mate
Perhaps going with someone else just to be extra safe? If only there was another UA-camr from that part of the world that films excellent videos exploring other parts of Europe…
Send us the link for the crowd funding so you can collab and visit together! We need you to protect each other in the worst case aye?
No idea how you took that so graciously! That lady should be ashamed of herself, inventing lies in her own head and telling them to the police. But props to you for shrugging it off with a smile :)
That stupid woman ruined everyone’s enjoyment. I loved your remark on thinking about asking the police officers to subscribe.
Seriously unfortunate experience. How odd of the woman to escalate the issue to the police. Keep going, Scott!
A Made in Germany Karen. Karin ?
This is crazy and unacceptable. I am very sorry you had to go through this! What a legend.
My God!!! What a dreadful experience!!! That lady is as sickening as a paedophile and absolutely should be fined, cautioned, punished should she try a stunt like that again.
Yes, she should be done for wasting police time.
@@johnwpolsce9401 I think much more than that is needed. A person *cannot make utterly false allegations* of that most despicable heinous nature, they are the most serious of personal allegations you can make, and there has to be at least some grounds, some kind of problem, which after investigation would have to have been at the very very least, a rational question. And if as in this case it’s clearly not - there is due a punishment.
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German here, who lived a couple of years in Berlin. Berlin is somehow a strange place, when it comes to tourists and filming. Everywhere else in Germany, there are areas that are clearly touristy areas and Germans there do totally understand that tourists want to make some pictures or videos, because we do the same when we are on vacation elsewhere. So, visit the Ostsee or Nordsee or alpine tourist areas and people will just mind their business, as long as you don't film them in their faces.
On the other side, there are lots of areas in Germany, that seldomly see tourists and where normal people just live. And seeing someone with a camera walking through that area and filming it would seem a bit suspicious. I bet, it's the same in your country - imagine for example - how normal it would be to film times square in New York, while filming a normal street in suburbia somewhere in Alabama might get you into problems.
And, as I said, Berlin is a bit strange in that regards, because it is definetelly a touristy area and thus it should be normal place for tourists to film and take pictures, but some locals have the same mindset as in a small town or village.
Back, when I lived in Berlin, this stood out to me as well as a couple of other people who also weren't originally from there: Berliners are basically Hillbillies living in the largest city of the country.
Damn. This is the world we live in now, where all single men are presumed predators until proven innocent. I hate this world….
You dealt with that very well I would be appalled. I hope they spoke to the women involved and you deserve apologies .
Hey as a Berliner, I'm really sorry for your experience. I can in no way understand how it is legal for the policemen to take you to the station and more or less forbid you to go on with your trip to Teufelsberg.
The police will do whatever they like unless you challenge them
Didn't you understand the video? There had been a claim that he had improperly staked out children - are you surprised they investigated this?
They did their job, apparently in correct form, and let him go soon enough once they had established the accusation was bogus. 10/10, I'd say.
I hope he reported her for falsely accusing him.
That kind of crazed Germans put me off visiting Germany to be honest. I even fly to Austria and Switzerland these days. It never involved the police but there is a group of Germans who can't mind their business. It gives you credit you did not report her. To be honest, I probably would....
He was "cooperating" that is the difference. He said in the video that police was very nice to him. Not caught in the act, not in the border zone, he has no business of talking with the police.
@@littlebrit
There was a witness reporting him, and that counts as evidence and is enough to hold him for investigations.
He could have refused to cooperate - then, he'd probably been held and his camera seized as evidence. It would have just dragged out the situation and made it more unpleasant than necessary.
Well, that was certainly unexpected. Whilst the woman on the train might have mental health issues (which potentially impacts all those around her), it's very alarming that an innocent tourist could be taken that swiftly to the police on hearsay and that they would warn you off continuing with your journey. We watched the video yesterday and are still talking about what happened to you today.
The police are obliged to investigate any complaint. What if he had been a paedo? As it happens, they detained him whilst they investigated, found he was innocent and t released him. Advising him to leave the area was probably for his own good as it avoided any further incident with the woman who reported him to the Police.
I think the moral of the story is not to video in public where your intention could be misunderstood, especially with regard to children and young women. His aim was to video at Teufelsberg, so videoing on public transport was not necessary. The Police have a difficult job and clearly want to prevent a breach of the peace. They may well not have had enough reason to detain the woman, but at the same could not be sure what she might incite in any further encounter with the man she falsely accused. Never under estimate the mob vigilante mentality. @px712uf-public
Agreed but ONE thing and please be very careful with the use of language. That is tarring EVERYONE with mental health issues like that lady who clearly got it wrong . PLEASE DO NOT DO THAT,thanks.
Welcome to Germany! 😜
@@grahamcook9289
They can investigate it there and then. Why should be he be dragged to the police station.
Absolutely awful mate you look like you dealt with it very well
It’s a rotten old world sometimes
That's crap, I'm sorry you went through that. Why do some people think that just because we have cameras it must mean we are Paedos. I hope she gets a telling off (being polite) from the Police for that.
I have a feeling I may know who that was. She is well known to anyone who travels between Heerstr and Kladow.
A positive out of this for me was that you appeared in my feed, and I have subbed! You have a lot of content that is right up my alley.
Sorry to hear about this experience you had in Germany Scott the main thing is you were not in the wrong and you can continue to film content that your subscribers enjoy keep up the good work take care and stay safe
Terrible to have to proof all this. Good that you actually have the channel, that certainly helps to make your story trustworthy quickly I reckon !
Sorry to see this, Scott! Germany has some unusual privacy laws which seem strange to us but which have been informed by, shall we put it diplomatically, a probably justified scepticism of both the state and private individuals holding data or images of private citizens. It is entirely legal to film on a train, although if you capture images of people the individual does technically have the right to decide on the use of that image. This is actually a constitutional right under the Basic Law of Germany, which gives you an idea of the place that private filming has in the German psyche. That woman sounded like a bit of a nutter though, and I haven't had any issues filming in Germany myself - thankfully! Hopefully you'll get Teufelsberg on film some day!
Thanks Paul. I knew they were strict because if you look at Google Streetview, much of the country isnt included, and what is has many buildings pixalated or blurred out. Oh well, I learned a lesson and avoided being put on Interpols records!
@@PlanesTrainsEverything Paul your wit is 2 nd to none but it was a bit sheepish not to go on with the visit to the Teufelsberg .
Germany is always a bit weird about filming. They take privacy very seriously and are suspicious of cameras. Look how long it took to get full Google Streetview coverage.
That's what I thought, once you get away from the main tourist areas it does seem to ramp up that they don't like people filming.
That explains why there was no Streetview in Germany until a few Weeks ago, I did wonder what was up.
@@stephenhester9804Germany basically told Google to knock it off. Took them years and years of wrangling to get it sorted. It's still really common on German Street View to see homes blurred out.
When I was in Berlin, a tour guide told us that there was an unusually low number of surveillance cameras in the country compared to most Western nations because of German privacy laws. I don't know how true that is, but he was German and he said it.
I took many pictures in Germany no problems at all.
Strewth mate been to Berlin a few times never happened to me, even back in the days of Ost and West Berlin, reminds me of the time I wanted to Photograph the Train back to HKG in Guangzhou, where I was unceremoniously marched to my seat in the Train by a, I assume, PSB officer and placed in my seat, on the way I was being escorted past a Tour group of Elderly Tourists and one of them said "told you he looked shifty." Ahh the perils of independent Travel and Photography, glad to see they didn't deposit you in Spandau Prison, if its still there. Great Vids keep them coming Scott, I am sure we could have had a "whip round" for your bail. lol 😉
One day in the summer of 2023, while I was minding my own business, two boys (14 years old, I think) followed me and accused me of filming them in a backyard near my apartment. I told them I was just talking to some friends and then to my dad, holding up my rather large smartphone to better hear the voice messages. After I told them that, they disappeared pretty quickly into a local supermarket. But I tell you, even now that I've lived here > 25 years in the same area and have a very good reputation (like a businessman), I was very scared. Today I think about it, because their single mothers are probably to blame for this stupidity. I'm much more careful now, but I don't let these crazy people tell me what I should or can do.
Your great at what you do your subscribers along with myself enjoy your channel and the content, don't let one crazy woman put you off filming, you are discrete with your filming, stay safe and well Scott.
People are so strange, glad the police were polite
Thats awful that happened to you! Hope it didnt cause you too much harm and stress on your holiday. Love your videos. Much love from sweden.
What doesn't hurt you makes you stronger. Frustrating but Scheiße happens.
Scott I feel your pain with Police experience I’m a retired Scotsman living in Poland and have had a couple of incidents with the Polish Police all were unfounded however due to the language barrier was very stressful at the time ❤
Did the police treat you with respect?
@@Matty12333
My 2 situations were a dispute over a taxi fare where the driver demanded 3 times more than the normal fare
He called the police
End result I was charged with Fraud !! Had to pay fare plus court costs
Second time was a homeless guy tried to steal my phone and watch , with help of others around managed to restrain the guy :
Police arrived and let him go with no arrest / charge
I felt as though I was the Thief
@@andrewgalt3964 I remember once in poland, i visited a church and i accidentally forgot to take my cap off. The person on the door was very nasty about it, i was suprised he didn't call the police. However, everyone else i interacted with were friendly and respectful
That's a very unfortunate experience. I was in a supermarket in Berlin a few years ago and some crazy lady gave out to me for destroying the planet because I asked the cashier for a plastic bag. It might have been the same women :)
thats when you tell her to shutup and mind her own business.
no need to be polite to these people
In the UK, i would have went mental. However abroad you have to be more careful
as a german i can tell you that its entirely fine to tell these people to f off
we do that too@@Matty12333
aye greenies are crazy
That must have been horrible for you Scott. Not even being allowed to carry on. Hopefully you get back soon
Wow!
I am from Germany and I can say that we have some people hoo are a little bit nervous about people filming and taking fotos in some places. So I think you were just at the wrong place in the wrong time. I hope you will see the Teufelsberg someday. Have a nice day and happy traveling 👋 Greatings MDG.
The density of madmen and incompetent police officers is highest in Berlin. Berlin - one can only say: You are leaving the German sector!
And something like this is the federal capital. Schande!
Haha, sorry for your experience but I've been waiting for one of the UA-camrs I follow to be accused of something like this in this weird world we now live in! Keep up the good and interesting vlogs 👍
just crazy how someone can call the police with a lie and the police coming after you
@@princessleia7274 yeah okay fair point, but that woman was definitely crazy
My opinion: there are far more crazy people in Berlin compared to nearly all other German cities. More crazy people per 100,000 people in Berlin than anywhere else. That strange woman who reported you to the police, for example. I personally like Koln, Hamburg, and Hanover more than Berlin.
Beware of deranged or malevolent women making such accusations....some women are dangerous 🛑
It’s amazing that the police all over the world react to one misinformed member of public who has just jumped to the worst assumptions …
Unfortunately thats how policing works.
I love Germany and German people but i have to admit that Germany has changed over the past 30 years since first went there. I was over in June to Dusseldorf and i can tell you it was an eye opener and it was nothing to do with Germans. I know Germany has a stong Turkish community but this year it seems to be over run with them now. They hang about in large groups outside kiosks and train stations and make you feel very uncomfortable.
To the crazy woman, be careful when you assume something about a person as often the word will bite you.
Its will make as ASS out of U and ME!
She must have been an old East German where state sponsored paranoia was a way of life .Glad the police attitude has changed.
I was getting ready to send you a cake with a file in it,love your adventures.🏴
Good on you, Scott!
Hi Scott, just an update on that crazy lady. She was last seen with a large white plastic bag over her head shouting "Ich bin ein Bin-liner! 😂
Never mind, Scott. Keep making the videos.
As you know, in Scotland we often complain about lack of policing.
You were innocent so had nothing to hide. They were only doing their job.
A similar thing happened to me as well, I was out and about and this evil bloke had called me a pedophole and a woman did as welk
This happened twice to me last year when I was touring Germany. First in Düsseldorf when I saw a very old tram. I videoed it outside the main station and a woman with kids inside the tram called the police. I was taken to a nearby station and they wanted to see the footage. Although it was innocent they demanded I delete the video, under German privacy law this can happen. A week later on the island of Rugen we rented bikes and I photographed my friend on a promenade cycling towards me. A German father with kids got angry thinking I was taking pics of his kids and we tried to cycle off. The father pulled me violently off my bike and held me in a headlock while his wife called the police who took more than a hour to come. When they did all they wanted to do is see the photos on my camera - none had the man and his family in as I had zoomed into my friend to avoid other people in the shots. Nobody apologised and the police even said the father had the right to hold me as he perceived his family to be in danger! These episode really annoyed me and made me think Germans are all insanely paranoid.
You were held in a headlock and he got away Scott free? Sounds normal.
I live in Berlin and I am not surprised that she had done this. Germans drive me off CRAZY. Even though I am german.
A foreigner with a backpack filming in Germany's most popular tourist city... Hmmm, how suspicious! You really set yourself up for a brush with the law with this one Scott...🤔🤦😁
That's insane. People should mind their own business instead of snitching on others. She probably was an Ossie and an ex-Stasi snitch.
I did make it up to Teufelsberg a few weeks ago after 20+ years of visiting Berlin - the views from up there were alone worth the trek!
PS. Love how you pronounce "Teufelsberg", very ungermanish :D
This actually reminds me of an incident in Stockholm years and years ago - I took a photo of some random buildng (I think it was the Stockholm Central Library) and soon a young lady comes to me and asks whether I took a picture of her. I said no, of that building over there - "Good as I believe that a picture will steal your soul. If the picture has me in it, please delete it."
I was baffled over it. This wasn't Papua-New Guinea but a highly developed society...
Sorry to read this Scott . Still keep up the great work you do 😮😮.
I'm impressed by their ability to find you tbh. You could've been anywhere for all they knew.
The area arount S-Bahn Heerstr is mostly empty. The forest and the Teufelberg the only, not overcrowded atraction. A man with a camera and grey hair is easy to find.
I was stationed in Berlin when Teufelsberg was built, in the seventies, for specific purposes and various people from where I worked were moved to it. I would love to know if it is still manned and in use.
I thought you handled it well for the episode but an experience like that is wounding. So filming a Go Pro out of a train window is grounds enough for somebody to report you. Not happy that a nice guy like you had to go though that.
Your fine Scott, put her behind you, dont let this person dampen your day,😅
I was 'told off' by airport staff for taking a photo of me boarding a plane in Dusseldorf .... I was shocked by their over reaction (I know you can't take photos in certain areas like passport control, security and customs at any airport). No one anywhere else has ever said anything when climbing the steps to the plane before in any other country. Very odd.
Not odd in toady's world!
Actually at Newcastle airport in Uk, i took a picture of the plane when leaving. The ground staff started shouting and told me to delete the picture.
Very, very strange. I've never heard of such a thing.
Oh I feel so bad for you!! Hope you recovered with a German beer!! What an unnecessary adventure!
Next time avoid her by going on an S7 to Grunewald, about the same walk to Teufelsberg. You could then visit the Gleis 17 memorial at Grunewald station as well.
Remember Germany was the country where Google Street View was banned for years because 1 insignificant village complained about their privacy and the rest of Germany jumped on the bandwagon.
Amazing. Some hysterical woman could cause this much trouble. Keep fighting.
It's a crazy world 😂🌍
People are so quick to jump to conclusions. I'm only surprised you don't get more aggro. These so called ' auditors' are to blame.They go round with a camera and get into all kinds of aggro. But nobody could be better mannered that you Scot. Perfect gent if ever there was one.
Scott, you're not the only UA-camr who has reported the paranoia in Germany, surrounding cameras. As a Street Photographer, I'm sure I would soon find myself in the deep end. One Street Photographer found himself surrounded by an angry mob in Hamburg, while attempting a time-consuming composition. Thankfully, the paranoia seems to be confined to Germany for some reason. Why? What is it about Germany and such profound paranoia? That's a question we would all like an answer to.
Hamburg is a different kettle of fish. I had my camera out near the train station. Never again!
It’s probably as a result of history and living under two very oppressive regimes (in the east anyway) in the living memories of a lot of people in Germany. As a result, they strongly value their privacy.
@@laurengilmour116 I'm inclined to agree. Whenever I've visited previously oppressed communist countries, I've found the societies to sometimes be a little "odd" that takes time to get used to. Paris, for instance, where communism is still very profound, makes my eyes water.
@@ChrisCarsonParis wasn’t recently in a communist country?
@@tobeytransport2802 Since 1789... Take your rose tint glasses off and look again.
Do go there, you'll not regret it. I was last there in 2011 and had to find a hole in the chain link fence to get in. Being there early in the morning, it certainly felt "edgy" to have the place almost to myself, with access to every part of it and no concerns about public safety. I hope it's not changed too much.
never mind berlin..lets have an in depth review of the fountain gardens...
I live in Berlin and would be happy to take Scott to Teufelsberg
I had a similar situation in Zurich. I took a photo of a Railjet I had just left after arriving into Zurich and then went to store my luggage in some SBB luggage lockers, where I was approached by a police officer from the Cantonal Police of Zurich and he asked me the purpose of my visit in Switzerland, and why did I picture that train
No one expects the Spanish Inquisition.
hi sorry for your unfortunate encounter, it seems to happen to all of us at some stage, i hope you will not be put off by this and continue to entertain all of your fans and i look forward to the next trip Leon
Lived in Berlin for a 18 months playing in a band and totally had a super time but the world is a a changed place with everyone on tenterhooks...not good.
SCOTT, someone picked up your scent, the stasi , watch out here they come, LOL 😆 😊
For all the headache you should have asked the police to take you to Teufelsberg
Sign of the times I'm afraid welcome to the new world we live in even though it's sad will only get worse sorry about your bad experience
Hi Scot that must of been a horrible experience. Hope you can salvage something of Berlin.Having been to Berlin many times , I’m always looking for something new to do . Not sure if you have been to Potsdam not far away but I highly recommend a visit if you haven’t been.
so disgraceful that some creepy weirdos always assume an old youtuber is a pedo just of your age 😑 you’re one of my favourite youtubers and its so inspirational that you’re doing this amazing channel at an old age
She would hate to be anywhere in Scotland as there are CCTV cameras everywhere filming you at all times, most cameras particularly on street lights have no information on who is recording your images or why
Peck v The United Kingdom 2003
People should be seriously reprimanded when falsely accusing people of such crimes in such a public way, in some country’s people tend to take things into their own hands and this could have easily spiralled out of control.
Schade, Scott. Better luck next time.
I lived in DE for almost 20 years. Busybodies exist everywhere.
These people make up for what is missing in their life by trying to spread the chaos.
Don’t let it stop you in Germany, it is a country full of wonderful and welcoming people.
Idiots exist everywhere.
What a horrible experience. What is it about GoPros and other types of vlogging cameras that either bring out the nutters or the security people in high-viz jackets wanting to have a go at us? I bet if you’d been using an iPhone psycho-lady probably wouldn’t even have noticed! 🤔
Oh no, that doesn't sound like a very pleasant experience at all! I hope you are able to get to Teufelsberg at some point in the future, with your camera and without any 'crazy' ladies in your way. The police obviously have to take these claims seriously, but I am glad they saw you for the travel enthusiast you are! I've never been to Germany but since starting to learn German I've absorbed a fair bit about the culture - German folk definitely seem to be more private/suspicious when it comes to cameras/filming, and life in general actually! I can't help but wonder if that's partly due to either them or family members having lived or heard of living under at least one totalitarian regime, but maybe other cultural factors too? Anyway, let's hope this was a 'blip' in your journey and onwards and forwards to the next one!
Not good! Glad you are ok!!!
Fun fact: I worked at TBerg for 4 years in the 1970s. Didn't hold up too well, did it?
I adore Berlin, too. 😉
Very unfortunate Scott. But all part of the journey.
Well, you can take the police station off the bucket list.
Went to Berlin in 2010s with family in tow. At the train station, the first in line taxi driver claimed he did not have a child seat, so he declined to take us. The next 3-4 drivers did the same thing. The Sikh driver had no issue compared to the Central /East European ones. The Sikh driver said he had not hear of such thing about not having child seats, but I know when there is profiling. Not my first rodeo… We did have a nice 3 days in Berlin and the locals were polite. The Sikh driver got a standard US tip.
The first thing to do in Berlin: Leave
Good grief, how bizarre. I’ve lived here 30 years and never heard of anything so strange happening. Sure there are quite a lot of weird people who can also be quite aggressive on occasion (the Berliners are fairly proud of their mouthiness) but calling the police is a whole different ball game. And there are plenty of people shooting UA-cam material with selfie sticks here so hardly a new phenomenon. Please do come back and get to Teufelsberg at some point in the future - it’s great on a windy day when people are flying kites, and absolutely bonkers with the fireworks at New Year. I personally really dislike that walk from Heerstrasse though, so we tend to go there by car.
There are really "Karen" (called such person in US with unexplainable behavior) who will ruin your walk, endeavor, or project. Good you were not held long. Take care!
What a shame.! I love Berlin . She was abviously a sandwich short of a picnic . Chin up
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shows how quickly and easily it can go wrong. the World is a crazy place at the moment!!! stay safe
Don't let that halfwit of a woman dent your confidence. Keep up the good work.
Did they rope the old lady in for wasting police time, and slander?
Scott I feel sorry for you that you got arrested hope everything went well! 😀
You can't around making false accusations, as she did. Very irrational, or perhaps someone who has mental health issues. Despite that, very upsetting. Adding my support to you.
Hey Scott! Just wondering when you will be returning to Teufelsberg! Love the vids!
Oh that is terrible that you did not get to your destination. Just keep going to Derry, Letterkenny and Donegal😁😁☘️
this is what i expect from Berlin. I had some very agressive interactions during my time there
My son also...
Scott says it's his favourite city in Europe but I think it's pretty horrible.
Berlin is amazing, I’ve lived here for 15 years and have never had any problems. He also said the policemen were friendly and just doing their job. Of course this whole thing is very unfortunate but that doesn’t mean Berlin is not great.
When i went to Berlin, everyone were friendly and filmed many things without incident.
Did this happen to you, on Friday 13th??. Sorry for your bad experience in Berlin. I'm very surprised the German police followed a guy with a camera, in 2023, just because of a crazy woman complaining. You have a GREAT UA-cam channel!.
Hey, once I was in Groningen, NL, where I had my Erasmus for many months. What happended is that once I was making pictures of the interior of EHGG and policemen came to me and I had to explain myself on why I was making pictures and what was I doing there. I had to show my 2nd Twitter account to prove them that I am doing nothing wrong and that I make pictures of aircraft...
You should pressed charges against that woman
Sorry to hear about your experience, Scott. People are just over-sensitive nowardays to filming, especially kids playing. In my day there way nothing wrong about taking innocent photos even if there were kids in it. Yes, the woman was a bit crazy, but hasn't this WOKE madness gone too far? Best wishes and keep making the videos.
People can be over-sensitive but what’s woke got to do with this? In your day no doubt some of the kiddy fiddlers were talking “innocent” photos. And you could go to the pictures, get two stone of monkey nuts, 10 woodbines, 15 pints, fish and chips and still have change out of a farthing.
Berlin has pretty good public transport - trouble is that while you're on one of the trains, you're exposed to more than the usual share of beggars and fruitcakes, some just mildly annoying, some downright aggressive.
Ignoring her was the right reaction - you just were unlucky she got hold of policemen who didn't realize immediately that she was nuts.
It's one of the worst accusations she could have made against a mild mannered elderly gentleman, so the police just couldn't not investigate.
Don't be sad about missing Teufelsberg, though. The best thing is the view on Berlin from the hilltop - the rotting military installation is a bit of a disappointment.
There may be some interesting cold war folklore about it but nowadays, it's in a really bad shape and the new owner has fenced it off and tries to collect a totally unjustified entrance fee.