Thanks very much for a long video of the bar crossing as others would have just done a minute or so. The way you did it was great. You get to see all hat is going on. Well almost.
Thanks Mark. The Wide Bay Bar is a much longer stretch than many realise. You can’t just “time your run to the sets” like many others. This is most likely why so many come to grief there. We treat this bar with the utmost respect even though (& possibly because?) we are so familiar with it.
You bought some memories back for us that crossed at 7:am 1 hr before high after an overnighter from Mooloolaba. The days when you used the first leading lights then turned to Port and dropped into what they then called the washing machine heading for the second set of leads. That was before AIS
Thanks for sharing your journey guys, I came here looking for how to cross a bar safely. Cheers. PS it's not Fraser Island now, it's K'Gari but you're probably already across that by now. Safe travels and remember you never have enough wine ;)
@BrettFerguson-r7b Thanks Brett. Glad you pointed out the K’Gari name place. We have tried to tread that line between respect & familiarity. Very happy to have that paradise known by the name it has been known by for millennia. Been going there for over 40 years & love the place. Rob.
We are cautious about certain large pelagic fish for sure. Usually we would taste a very small amount first & then wait a while. Tingling lips/tongue would be one red flag for us.
Looking forward to the sail repair, likely far more than you are. Any chance that it’s a little more in depth repair process? Perhaps with methods, materials, and equipment used? Is there anything you can do while underway as a temporary repair? I am certain that there are more than a few of us out here on a rainy day on land, looking to learn a thing or two for when it our turn for the adventure. As always, thank you for sharing!
Hey Archer. We have a sewing machine on board, along with the basic repair materials. We consider it invaluable if you have the space & resources. It has saved us quite a few times in the past. 👍.
Well I am going to throw the cat amongst the birds here. Personally I feel that if you are going to make videos such as ths please be factual. While you are correct in stating "crossing bars is all about timing" in my very humble opinion that is a very simplistic comment. Bar crossing require a lot of fore thought and planning. Each bar crossing is totally different. Of great importance is the state of the tide and state of the sear when crossing. Perhaps it would have been prudent to comment on the state of the tide when you crossed and state of the sea. (my apologies if I missed that in your video) Wide Bay bar while it has a bad reputation is another bar that requires special attention. Once again I apoligise if I missed it on your video but one thing that was wrong is that you stated you followe the Leads. The leads are wrong on the bar and it is recommended that you follow either thte Virtual AIS points marking the course or you contact the local VMR for co-ordinates for safe passage across the bar. Anything else may well see you on the sandbar. Crossing any bar on a rising tide is most important preferably on the last quarter of a rising tide. Yes timing is important but so is every other consideration. I apologise if I offend but the any Bar crossing deserves respect and knowledge for a safe crossing in particular the Wide bay Bar.
Hey Greg. Thanks for being so respectful with your comment. You make some fair points. Dee did state that we crossed both those bars about an hour before the respective high tides however. Insofar as the sea state goes, the Mooloolaba one was self evidently calm. For the Wide Bay Bar Dee made a point of giving the wind strength & wave height, as well as the state of the tide. She actually showed the virtual AIS marks as they appeared on the chart plotter in the video & referred (briefly) to them at the time. You are very correct in that all bar crossings need to be given respect. At the end of the day the ship’s master is responsible for the safety of their own vessel & crew. Everyone’s risk profile & level of experience is different and we do not ever seek to preach what is right/wrong. We just show what works for us. Thanks again for making entirely valid points in your comment. I am sure anyone reading it should find it adds value. Rob.
@@sailingjaygo thanks for the reply Rob, safe journeys, you are about to enter one of the greatest cruising grounds that exist on this planet. Just for your information, the whales are already in Hervey Bay and it is worth a side trip up to the top of the Bay (Rooney Point) where they tend to be seen frequently. Onlly last week we had the most wonderful interaction with a while up there.
Hey Andrew, plenty of people who have not crossed that bar look for information. I have been across it plenty of times as well, and give it the respect it deserves. Crossing Noosa Bar in a keel boat like ours would be a ridiculous proposition. Not looking for that type of excitement.
Thanks very much for a long video of the bar crossing as others would have just done a minute or so.
The way you did it was great. You get to see all hat is going on.
Well almost.
Thanks Mark. The Wide Bay Bar is a much longer stretch than many realise. You can’t just “time your run to the sets” like many others. This is most likely why so many come to grief there. We treat this bar with the utmost respect even though (& possibly because?) we are so familiar with it.
You bought some memories back for us that crossed at 7:am 1 hr before high after an overnighter from Mooloolaba. The days when you used the first leading lights then turned to Port and dropped into what they then called the washing machine heading for the second set of leads. That was before AIS
The AIS marks definitely make it easier. The shoals on that bar still move around though after heavy weather. 👍
@@sailingjaygo scary when coming in and the depth goes from around 30 odd meters to 5m suddenly. Just signed up.
👍👍.
Thanks for sharing your journey guys, I came here looking for how to cross a bar safely. Cheers. PS it's not Fraser Island now, it's K'Gari but you're probably already across that by now. Safe travels and remember you never have enough wine ;)
@BrettFerguson-r7b Thanks Brett. Glad you pointed out the K’Gari name place. We have tried to tread that line between respect & familiarity. Very happy to have that paradise known by the name it has been known by for millennia. Been going there for over 40 years & love the place. Rob.
No problems with cigutera there?
We are cautious about certain large pelagic fish for sure. Usually we would taste a very small amount first & then wait a while. Tingling lips/tongue would be one red flag for us.
Looking forward to the sail repair, likely far more than you are. Any chance that it’s a little more in depth repair process? Perhaps with methods, materials, and equipment used? Is there anything you can do while underway as a temporary repair?
I am certain that there are more than a few of us out here on a rainy day on land, looking to learn a thing or two for when it our turn for the adventure. As always, thank you for sharing!
Hey Archer. We have a sewing machine on board, along with the basic repair materials. We consider it invaluable if you have the space & resources. It has saved us quite a few times in the past. 👍.
Well I am going to throw the cat amongst the birds here. Personally I feel that if you are going to make videos such as ths please be factual. While you are correct in stating "crossing bars is all about timing" in my very humble opinion that is a very simplistic comment. Bar crossing require a lot of fore thought and planning. Each bar crossing is totally different. Of great importance is the state of the tide and state of the sear when crossing. Perhaps it would have been prudent to comment on the state of the tide when you crossed and state of the sea. (my apologies if I missed that in your video) Wide Bay bar while it has a bad reputation is another bar that requires special attention. Once again I apoligise if I missed it on your video but one thing that was wrong is that you stated you followe the Leads. The leads are wrong on the bar and it is recommended that you follow either thte Virtual AIS points marking the course or you contact the local VMR for co-ordinates for safe passage across the bar. Anything else may well see you on the sandbar. Crossing any bar on a rising tide is most important preferably on the last quarter of a rising tide. Yes timing is important but so is every other consideration. I apologise if I offend but the any Bar crossing deserves respect and knowledge for a safe crossing in particular the Wide bay Bar.
Pretty sure they said they went over 1hr before high tide. It's entertainment, I doubt it's supposed to be a full on instructional video.
Hey Greg. Thanks for being so respectful with your comment. You make some fair points. Dee did state that we crossed both those bars about an hour before the respective high tides however. Insofar as the sea state goes, the Mooloolaba one was self evidently calm. For the Wide Bay Bar Dee made a point of giving the wind strength & wave height, as well as the state of the tide. She actually showed the virtual AIS marks as they appeared on the chart plotter in the video & referred (briefly) to them at the time. You are very correct in that all bar crossings need to be given respect. At the end of the day the ship’s master is responsible for the safety of their own vessel & crew. Everyone’s risk profile & level of experience is different and we do not ever seek to preach what is right/wrong. We just show what works for us. Thanks again for making entirely valid points in your comment. I am sure anyone reading it should find it adds value.
Rob.
@@sailingjaygo
thanks for the reply Rob, safe journeys, you are about to enter one of the greatest cruising grounds that exist on this planet. Just for your information, the whales are already in Hervey Bay and it is worth a side trip up to the top of the Bay (Rooney Point) where they tend to be seen frequently. Onlly last week we had the most wonderful interaction with a while up there.
👍. Thanks Greg.
Think your making a big deal out of not much:cross that bar regularly try Noosa for some excitement
Hey Andrew, plenty of people who have not crossed that bar look for information. I have been across it plenty of times as well, and give it the respect it deserves. Crossing Noosa Bar in a keel boat like ours would be a ridiculous proposition. Not looking for that type of excitement.