Just had my 3rd day as a tool and die apprentice and was lost when my mentor would talk like this. Stumbled through making my parallels before I finally got him to understand I still think of decimal places as if it were highschool math. He was understanding and was just used to talking like that. Now I have a much better grasp. It literally feels like machinist lingo is a completely different language.
I’ve seen other videos of guys drawing out all kinds of shit and none of it made any sense. This on the other hand was simple, to the point and most importantly, easy to understand.
I've worked at this metal fab shop going on 7 years, learned welding and much more (no schooling) now I've been machining more with "lagun" mills and very little lathe work, I use shears/breaks and auto back stops, so I enter fractions down to the "tenths" I got a og machinest in his 60s teaching me, but it was a math language gap, and this video just solved it
*Rephrasing that: To effectively communicate with machinists, learn the VERNACULAR. For example, .001" is stated as a "thou" (short for thousandth).* Developing the "vernacular" vocabulary isn't just to sound cool; but to speak about the most relevant things concisely in what's often a loud environment. To speak fluently with people ensconced in the field, you'll need to understand both the jargon and why it matters.
1:10 I fail to understand why you said you can only go up to .009 (which would be read 9 thousandths or 9 thou) and after .009 it becomes 1 thou? Well 1 thou would be .001 no? 1 thousandths of an inch.
I'm just guessing but I would say .07 as 70 thou....... 0.7 as seventh of an inch or 700 thou.... And .0007 as 7/10 of a thou.... I feel there is a better way to say the last one but idk
@BoBBy_Loko how would you enter that in the cnc lath if it was for ex .07 seventy thousands would it be +.07 or .007 and why isn't 7 thousands instead of seventy thousands?
I got done college for cnc few months ago and got a job making parts for the military and the way the school taught me my boss was saying forget everything school taught you its different in the work place i still have trouble with this they didnt even talk about the tens column so i still get confused when i have to make shure things are in tolerance this helps a bit thanks if any one has tip let me know.
@@HITTAGAME thanks I understand that it's more for the calibers when u measure but the actual hass machines when you have to make adjustments by the tens, hundredths or thousandths I still get confused I'm starting to get better now tho I'm lucky I have a boss willing to train me.
using the "thou" term is irritating to me tbh but didn't know it was a industry wide term. Thought it was just the people in my factory. I just prefer saying point o o then whatever number it is so there is 0 confusion
1:01 This is wrong. It goes tenth 0.10 (takes ten to make one inch), hundredth 0.010 (takes one hundred to make one inch), thousandth 0.001 (takes one thousand to make one inch). The “tenth” you are referring to is tenth thousandths. So you have three tenth thousandth in this example. This is simple math.
@@travismilberger4906 in the machining world when you physically make parts this is the system we use. I’m sure there is a good reason beyond what I know but this has been happening for a long time. In general math in college they use what you’re describing. I’ve worked with Toyota manufacturing, Honda, NASA, Blue Origin and more. This is the language used, along with metric system terms.
@ I’ve spent years machining and building engines. I currently work in engineering. Never have I heard someone refer to tenth thousandths as tenths. This is universal basic math we are talking about, but if it works for you I won’t stand to argue.
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It's because machinists are Techs. They are saying a fraction. 10/1000. They don't know how to use a number line. It is evidently purely an imperial unit convention that probably came about because a Tech was trying to save face about miss placing a couple decimal points.
Because .001" is the "base unit" in the USA machining world. Everything is expressed in terms of this "base unit". .750 inch is "750 thou". .100 inch is "100 thou". .0005 inch is "half thou". And that is why .0002 inch is "2 tenths". Because .001" is the "base unit" and .0002 is 2/10ths of this "base unit". ps, "thou" is short for "thousandths".
I dont think this is 100 percent accurate. I completely understand different machine shops with a completely different set of old timers can have developed a completely different jargon. With that said the way my old timers taught me was .1000 = 1 thou, .0100 = 1 hundred, .0010 = tens and for a reason I will never understand; .0001 = 1 tenths. Aside from the whole tenths thing the rest makes since if you treat everything to the right of the decimal as a 4 digit number. .1250 = twelve fifty thou, or .0250 = twenty-five hundreds, .0050 = fifty tens. Personally I always thought the mil (not mm) is a very good type of measurement abbreviation. For those who don't know 1 mil = .001 so .150 = one hundred and fifty mil. Of course if you need to go 4 spots past the decimal there could be an issue.
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Fist video on UA-cam that just gets right to the point
Nah imma make a better video
Just had my 3rd day as a tool and die apprentice and was lost when my mentor would talk like this. Stumbled through making my parallels before I finally got him to understand I still think of decimal places as if it were highschool math. He was understanding and was just used to talking like that. Now I have a much better grasp. It literally feels like machinist lingo is a completely different language.
Bc it is🤣🤣
That's what Im talking about. Right to the point with plenty of examples. Thanks.
I will be the first to say thankyou this shit always gets me when I go to the machine shop.
I’ve seen other videos of guys drawing out all kinds of shit and none of it made any sense. This on the other hand was simple, to the point and most importantly, easy to understand.
I've worked at this metal fab shop going on 7 years, learned welding and much more (no schooling) now I've been machining more with "lagun" mills and very little lathe work, I use shears/breaks and auto back stops, so I enter fractions down to the "tenths" I got a og machinest in his 60s teaching me, but it was a math language gap, and this video just solved it
I know exactly what you mean with the language barrier 🤣
Yeah right to the point, thank you so much. Trying to land a good job.
Good explanation keep up the good work.
Thanks for the explanation. Much appreciated
Glad it was helpful!
*Rephrasing that: To effectively communicate with machinists, learn the VERNACULAR. For example, .001" is stated as a "thou" (short for thousandth).*
Developing the "vernacular" vocabulary isn't just to sound cool; but to speak about the most relevant things concisely in what's often a loud environment. To speak fluently with people ensconced in the field, you'll need to understand both the jargon and why it matters.
1:10 I fail to understand why you said you can only go up to .009 (which would be read 9 thousandths or 9 thou) and after .009 it becomes 1 thou? Well 1 thou would be .001 no? 1 thousandths of an inch.
I am so glad I stuck with metric
What about below One Thou? How would I say for example .07 and .7 and also .0007
I'm just guessing but I would say .07 as 70 thou....... 0.7 as seventh of an inch or 700 thou.... And .0007 as 7/10 of a thou.... I feel there is a better way to say the last one but idk
Cam Gilliam .0007 = seven tenths .7 = seven hundreds .07 = seventy thousands
@BoBBy_Loko how would you enter that in the cnc lath if it was for ex .07 seventy thousands would it be +.07 or .007 and why isn't 7 thousands instead of seventy thousands?
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Right to the point. Thank You.
I got done college for cnc few months ago and got a job making parts for the military and the way the school taught me my boss was saying forget everything school taught you its different in the work place i still have trouble with this they didnt even talk about the tens column so i still get confused when i have to make shure things are in tolerance this helps a bit thanks if any one has tip let me know.
Just think of it like this theres 1000 lines in an inch. Each line is called "1 thousandth"
@@HITTAGAME thanks I understand that it's more for the calibers when u measure but the actual hass machines when you have to make adjustments by the tens, hundredths or thousandths I still get confused I'm starting to get better now tho I'm lucky I have a boss willing to train me.
doing machinist homework and i didnt know how to correctly incorparate the 4th decimal. now i do
Very helpful thank you. You da man!
Excellent
Thank you
So machine shops say decimals different then math class taught us?
yes.
@@jayce5025 I would love to see them argue over this
@@slow_carsgarage7422 It happens. It's one of the classic Tech vs Engineer arguments. They are using a fraction. 10/1000 = .01
Correct. Both arr right it's just the language being used.
Because I spend too much time watching videos, my bank account has $.001 in it.
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using the "thou" term is irritating to me tbh but didn't know it was a industry wide term. Thought it was just the people in my factory. I just prefer saying point o o then whatever number it is so there is 0 confusion
1:01 This is wrong. It goes tenth 0.10 (takes ten to make one inch), hundredth 0.010 (takes one hundred to make one inch), thousandth 0.001 (takes one thousand to make one inch). The “tenth” you are referring to is tenth thousandths. So you have three tenth thousandth in this example. This is simple math.
@@travismilberger4906 in the machining world when you physically make parts this is the system we use. I’m sure there is a good reason beyond what I know but this has been happening for a long time. In general math in college they use what you’re describing.
I’ve worked with Toyota manufacturing, Honda, NASA, Blue Origin and more. This is the language used, along with metric system terms.
@ I’ve spent years machining and building engines. I currently work in engineering. Never have I heard someone refer to tenth thousandths as tenths. This is universal basic math we are talking about, but if it works for you I won’t stand to argue.
@@travismilberger4906 look further into it and so will I, let me know what you find. All in it for education and making sure I teach right.
So how would one pronounce .0002?
Two tenths of a thousandth
"Point two ten thou"
you would just say 2 tenths. anything in the 4th decmial point you would say the number followed by saying tenths.
now to engrave this in my brain like heres my chisel here i go lol
Great work. To the point . Much Appreciated
This helped.
.25 = 25 tenths? In aerospace manufacturing
It would be “two hundred fifty thou”. Or “quarter inch”
25 tenths would be .0025, but the proper way of saying it would be, “2 thou, 5 tenths.
He probably cant use a dial caliper
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It’s all about holding that .0001 tolerance son. While RC 60.
So how would you say .0001?
@@h2woah127one tenth
Yeah but 1/16 is .0625 is pronounced six hundred and twenty five ten thousandths? Come on that's confusing
Whats the difference from .100 and .001? In math class that's still 1 tenth but u say 1 hundred thousands? Why?
It's because machinists are Techs. They are saying a fraction. 10/1000. They don't know how to use a number line. It is evidently purely an imperial unit convention that probably came about because a Tech was trying to save face about miss placing a couple decimal points.
Because .001" is the "base unit" in the USA machining world. Everything is expressed in terms of this "base unit". .750 inch is "750 thou". .100 inch is "100 thou". .0005 inch is "half thou". And that is why .0002 inch is "2 tenths". Because .001" is the "base unit" and .0002 is 2/10ths of this "base unit". ps, "thou" is short for "thousandths".
..... I'm not saying thou..... lol
I dont think this is 100 percent accurate. I completely understand different machine shops with a completely different set of old timers can have developed a completely different jargon. With that said the way my old timers taught me was .1000 = 1 thou, .0100 = 1 hundred, .0010 = tens and for a reason I will never understand; .0001 = 1 tenths. Aside from the whole tenths thing the rest makes since if you treat everything to the right of the decimal as a 4 digit number. .1250 = twelve fifty thou, or .0250 = twenty-five hundreds, .0050 = fifty tens. Personally I always thought the mil (not mm) is a very good type of measurement abbreviation. For those who don't know 1 mil = .001 so .150 = one hundred and fifty mil. Of course if you need to go 4 spots past the decimal there could be an issue.
Metric seems so much easier
Thanks to the french for inventing the metric system.