So I grew up seeing three Linotypes in action and the print shop where my father and grandfather worked - today 34 years later I learned to appreciate those memories so thank you for that
41:07 was a genuine jaw-dropping, mind-expanded moment for me. Never really thought about why those specific colours were used on the edges, but seeing it like this, that was an utterly brilliant way to sharpen the letters up!
Excellent talk, thank you. I would add the detail that Gutenberg didn't combine movable type with a grape press. Rather he replaced the carved wooden print block with a block of moveable type in the already invented printer (which in its turn was based on grape/olive press technology). Books were printed before Gutenberg but they were limited as each page had to be carved and would only do so many copies before the wood block failed. After Gutenberg the wood block was only needed for illustration and decorative detail not the text... huge saving in labour.
Well, true but what invention was not based on existing technology? Might not fit directly your comment, but sometimes feel as if people have this need to talk down the work of Gutenberg🤔
Yes@@9s-l-s9 agree. Gutenberg's addition of movable/reusable type to the existing printing process was the genius paradigm shifting invention. The nuance is to not totally devalue the clever stuff that went before. But that can be hard in the time constraints of a conference talk.
If I recall correctly another thing Gutenberg did was develop an alloy of lead that actually expanded slightly when it cooled, which helped it hold the shape of the mold.
Long ago Douglas Hofstader had a lecture on fonts and typography and it has been lost to the sands of youtube. I pray one day I get to watch that lecture again.
(1) THOROUGHLY entertaining presentation! (2) Really nostalgic for somebody who has sat at the keyboard of a Linotype machine (one of about ten) in productive use at the time at a 1950s newspaper. Wonder if I can find the rectangular slug of lead that it cast with my name in raised type. (3) I’m very impressed with my first encounter with Dylan Beattie. He’s got a great sense of humor that comes across in a very engaging way. That was interesting content, very well organized and superbly delivered. Furthermore … just based on this one presentation, if there exists a metric for quality of presentation based the number of words spoken to deliver the message versus non-message words like “um”, “uh”, “no, what I meant was …”, etc., I’d say he has to own the record. Huge bandwidth of message delivered. I’m in awe of how he can speak so rapidly without any slurring or stumbling or even pauses.
My boyfriend in college had an original Mac and an Apple 27 pin dot matrix printer, and I am sure that the serifs on the font New York boosted my grade on papers by 50%!
The story about the Helvetica Neue websites hits close to home. I downloaded Helvetica Neue *condensed bold* for a single time use in a poster, and suddenly, it somehow became what Chrome, Firefox, and Edge all decided "Helvetica" should be (in spite of the fact I have the entire family of helvetica neue installed). Every single website with Helvetica Neue became TIGHT and PUNCHY.
Knuth was a great computer scientist but not a wonderful type designer. “Computer Modern” is not a particularly readable typeface. But I believe it did enable a bunch of computer word processing programs that would do such simple things as format a piece of text on a page, even if the limitations were monospace fonts and only one character size. This was a big step forward from mere typewriters.
PostScript is such a satisfying language ❤ *edit:* 4x3 is the smallest [usable] font I've seen! I believe used in DoorsCS on a monochrome TI-83+/TI-84+ calculator, since the screens are 96x64 pixels.
That was LaTeX, not TeX. TeX was way more complex than that. I used to write my economics lecture notes up in LaTeX, cos I could do it in emacs on X11 in early kernel versions of Linux (yeah in hindsight Economics was an odd degree choice.). LaTeX was actually WAY faster than trying to use Word and the equation editor when you had lots of those! I also sold my lecture notes to people. :)
Not sure if Dylan will see this, but I know he cares about accuracy. The story about the girl saying “3d printed save button”, that’s actually a “kids react” video, and it was on youtube, not sure if it still is.
I'm not sure, but didn't LINC-8 have a 5 by 3 pixels character "font"?
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This is a way how Dylan earns for living. I saw him live once upon the time with "We need more framewoks" show. He knows how to make the big show among intravert programmers. So he is a great guy, The Next Elvis.
Science fiction in our lifetimes? Quantum Leap. Dude had this weird handheld device that connected to a mainframe in the future and spit out information from every newspaper and library and archive in history. These days we use those devices to do sudoku when we're pooping.
Literally, whenever you create a document with LaTeX and show it to anyone who has ever worked with it, they immediately recognize AND appreciate it and you end up telling each other for 15 minutes how much better it looks. And then you start complaining together about why people still prefer to use a what-you-see-is-never-what-you-get word processor from Redmont.
i prefer the term wysiwtf for stuff like word XD also yes can confirm... texed documents are pretty damn recognizable, especially when they have a lot of equations... and the fact that it never breaks just because someone doesnt have the same fonts as you installed i actually ended up using LaTeX for making my CV and introduction letters back when i was job hunting^^
Diamond Age is awesome. [spoilers ahead] It describes an edutainment game that adapts to the player's learning style. The player finds themselves in jail, communicating with the guy in the neighbouring cell by flipping links in a chain, thus learning about binary code and the Turing Test. The jail is patrolled by robotic mechanical guards that can be reconfigured, thus learning about programs. Life lessons disguised as an adventure.
"Cow" in Hebrew is "Parah", not "Aleph". So I think there's some urban legendness going on... But just a nit in an otherwise great talk. EDIT: I still use LaTeX for important documents. I love it.
But "Ox" in Hebrew is אלף in Hebrew, which is pronounced Aleph. So it's not an urban legend, just a slightly different cow-like animal. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleph
im a simple person, i see "Dylan Beattie", i click it
He's always good value
So truuu
One of the better heuristics in life
I was just typing the exact same xD
You are among the wise, Felipe. 🎉
Wake up new Dylan Beattie talk just dropped
Always love the way Dylan takes what should be an incredibly boring subject and turns it into a fascinating and entertaining talk.
So I grew up seeing three Linotypes in action and the print shop where my father and grandfather worked - today 34 years later I learned to appreciate those memories so thank you for that
41:07 was a genuine jaw-dropping, mind-expanded moment for me. Never really thought about why those specific colours were used on the edges, but seeing it like this, that was an utterly brilliant way to sharpen the letters up!
What an excellent presentation. Thanks very much.
he should call it "From Tablet to Tablet"
Excellent talk, thank you. I would add the detail that Gutenberg didn't combine movable type with a grape press. Rather he replaced the carved wooden print block with a block of moveable type in the already invented printer (which in its turn was based on grape/olive press technology). Books were printed before Gutenberg but they were limited as each page had to be carved and would only do so many copies before the wood block failed. After Gutenberg the wood block was only needed for illustration and decorative detail not the text... huge saving in labour.
Well, true but what invention was not based on existing technology? Might not fit directly your comment, but sometimes feel as if people have this need to talk down the work of Gutenberg🤔
Yes@@9s-l-s9 agree. Gutenberg's addition of movable/reusable type to the existing printing process was the genius paradigm shifting invention. The nuance is to not totally devalue the clever stuff that went before. But that can be hard in the time constraints of a conference talk.
If I recall correctly another thing Gutenberg did was develop an alloy of lead that actually expanded slightly when it cooled, which helped it hold the shape of the mold.
Yet another load of knowledge I didn't know I wanted to have. Thanks, Dylan!
As always stunning speech!
You know the type :D
Long ago Douglas Hofstader had a lecture on fonts and typography and it has been lost to the sands of youtube. I pray one day I get to watch that lecture again.
(1) THOROUGHLY entertaining presentation! (2) Really nostalgic for somebody who has sat at the keyboard of a Linotype machine (one of about ten) in productive use at the time at a 1950s newspaper. Wonder if I can find the rectangular slug of lead that it cast with my name in raised type. (3) I’m very impressed with my first encounter with Dylan Beattie. He’s got a great sense of humor that comes across in a very engaging way. That was interesting content, very well organized and superbly delivered. Furthermore … just based on this one presentation, if there exists a metric for quality of presentation based the number of words spoken to deliver the message versus non-message words like “um”, “uh”, “no, what I meant was …”, etc., I’d say he has to own the record. Huge bandwidth of message delivered. I’m in awe of how he can speak so rapidly without any slurring or stumbling or even pauses.
Strongly recommend searching for other talks hes given at various conferences, they're all great! :D
My boyfriend in college had an original Mac and an Apple 27 pin dot matrix printer, and I am sure that the serifs on the font New York boosted my grade on papers by 50%!
Fantastic talk.
Thank you!
love your talks!
Wonderful story, Dylan!
I'm in awe. Literally.
The story about the Helvetica Neue websites hits close to home. I downloaded Helvetica Neue *condensed bold* for a single time use in a poster, and suddenly, it somehow became what Chrome, Firefox, and Edge all decided "Helvetica" should be (in spite of the fact I have the entire family of helvetica neue installed). Every single website with Helvetica Neue became TIGHT and PUNCHY.
Having ran a reproduction linotype, I appreciate this trip down memory lane.
Amazing story, as always
Awesome talk!
I did it, I found the most interesting video on the internet, never need to watch anything ever again.
Knuth also invented METAFONT. But yes, \LaTeX is better than word if you need to type lots of equations and have cross references to figures etc.
Knuth was a great computer scientist but not a wonderful type designer. “Computer Modern” is not a particularly readable typeface. But I believe it did enable a bunch of computer word processing programs that would do such simple things as format a piece of text on a page, even if the limitations were monospace fonts and only one character size. This was a big step forward from mere typewriters.
way more interesting than the title would suggest
15:06 ...how much branding do you need to make _a _*_new kind_*_ of device?_
Superb from Dylan as always. But not only that this talk is very relevant to what I'm into at the moment.
I'm from Denmark and I approve of this talk ;-)
You showed LaTeX, not TeX at 29:00. Big difference, dude.
Awesome talk, I enjoyed it very much. J
PostScript is such a satisfying language ❤
*edit:* 4x3 is the smallest [usable] font I've seen! I believe used in DoorsCS on a monochrome TI-83+/TI-84+ calculator, since the screens are 96x64 pixels.
That was LaTeX, not TeX. TeX was way more complex than that. I used to write my economics lecture notes up in LaTeX, cos I could do it in emacs on X11 in early kernel versions of Linux (yeah in hindsight Economics was an odd degree choice.). LaTeX was actually WAY faster than trying to use Word and the equation editor when you had lots of those! I also sold my lecture notes to people. :)
Not sure if Dylan will see this, but I know he cares about accuracy.
The story about the girl saying “3d printed save button”, that’s actually a “kids react” video, and it was on youtube, not sure if it still is.
Ayy another Boox tab user! I'm glad Onyx is starting to get more recognission. I hope they go big!
I'm of Danish ancestry and just looked at Danish...bloody hell! 🤣😇
what are the fonts used on the opening slides?
I lived all that! I even worked with Letraset before the Mac came out. That may be the only tech that Dylan left out!
I'm not sure, but didn't LINC-8 have a 5 by 3 pixels character "font"?
This is a way how Dylan earns for living. I saw him live once upon the time with "We need more framewoks" show. He knows how to make the big show among intravert programmers. So he is a great guy, The Next Elvis.
Science fiction in our lifetimes?
Quantum Leap. Dude had this weird handheld device that connected to a mainframe in the future and spit out information from every newspaper and library and archive in history.
These days we use those devices to do sudoku when we're pooping.
Literally, whenever you create a document with LaTeX and show it to anyone who has ever worked with it, they immediately recognize AND appreciate it and you end up telling each other for 15 minutes how much better it looks. And then you start complaining together about why people still prefer to use a what-you-see-is-never-what-you-get word processor from Redmont.
i prefer the term wysiwtf for stuff like word XD
also yes can confirm... texed documents are pretty damn recognizable, especially when they have a lot of equations... and the fact that it never breaks just because someone doesnt have the same fonts as you installed
i actually ended up using LaTeX for making my CV and introduction letters back when i was job hunting^^
Diamond Age is awesome. [spoilers ahead] It describes an edutainment game that adapts to the player's learning style. The player finds themselves in jail, communicating with the guy in the neighbouring cell by flipping links in a chain, thus learning about binary code and the Turing Test. The jail is patrolled by robotic mechanical guards that can be reconfigured, thus learning about programs. Life lessons disguised as an adventure.
"It's not about comic sans, it's about sending a message."
- Dylan Beattie
"Cow" in Hebrew is "Parah", not "Aleph". So I think there's some urban legendness going on... But just a nit in an otherwise great talk.
EDIT: I still use LaTeX for important documents. I love it.
But "Ox" in Hebrew is אלף in Hebrew, which is pronounced Aleph. So it's not an urban legend, just a slightly different cow-like animal. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleph
@@micro-history OK. I think that's an archaic term, but it would make sense considering when the pictogram was developed.
In 2019 the ClearType patent expired anyway, but I'm on a 4k monitor now. So it's pretty irrelevant now.
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He had one hour to prepare for this?!?!?!
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