REVEALING How I Earn $4.5K A Month With Options

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  • @mariantia926
    @mariantia926 3 роки тому +6

    You are the most honest and trueful guy in sharing your tip and trick. Thank kelvin.

  • @suelii86
    @suelii86 2 роки тому +16

    Kelvin thank you for all your videos!! i have learned so much from you. Can you please show us how to roll options in the different platforms (moo moo, tiger and IB)? Thank you!!!

    • @holypunk12
      @holypunk12 2 роки тому

      Only IB among these 3 has it I guess..

    • @NicoleBernadette
      @NicoleBernadette 2 роки тому

      Oh my, great suggestion🙏🏼 I just started exploring investing and would love to hear more about how to get started on these platforms too

  • @yyobbigmmama
    @yyobbigmmama 3 роки тому +4

    Thanks for the candid sharing, and also being the MVP for sharing your spreadsheet!

  • @rapala1982
    @rapala1982 3 роки тому +15

    this is an extremely good video kelvin, i have recommended your channel to my close colleagues as it shows a good progression in your investment journey which is very layman to newbies. same same, i got burnt initially for options trading too..experience is what makes us wiser.

  • @MomentOfMagic
    @MomentOfMagic 3 роки тому +12

    brilliant video!! I've started doing the option wheel strategy as well after learning about it from your videos, it's not crazy gains but it's a great source of extra income even just at 1% return per week. I have yet to try out rolling options but does seem like it could be useful.
    Thanks for sharing your journey so all of us can learn together :)

    • @eco2hk774
      @eco2hk774 2 роки тому

      1% return is actually a lot of money if you manage to make 1% return every week for 52 weeks consecutively

    • @mikey.1205
      @mikey.1205 2 роки тому +1

      "just" 1% per week hahaha. Annualised, those returns are better than Warren Buffett

  • @swethanarayanan
    @swethanarayanan 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you Kelvin! What you are doing is amazing - being transparent and learning together!

  • @seabreeze667
    @seabreeze667 2 роки тому

    Possible to show us how to use Tigers Brokers to do Options??

  • @willie3911
    @willie3911 3 роки тому +3

    Hi Kevin. Thanks for the sharing. This episode is very useful.

  • @Wira8
    @Wira8 3 роки тому +2

    thanks for the google sheet template. helps to keep track of my option trading !

  • @karthiv4977
    @karthiv4977 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks your spreadsheet helped me to calculate P/L for options.. :)

  • @iamlynn1984
    @iamlynn1984 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks Kelvin for having this video and sharing your tracking template. I find it really easy to understand and it provided me much insights to option trading!

  • @cheungallan6896
    @cheungallan6896 Рік тому

    Make sense. But not all the platform can trade option

  • @olarius650
    @olarius650 3 роки тому +8

    Do you use TA or FA to analyze the underlying when it comes to option trading?

  • @jayetng8177
    @jayetng8177 2 роки тому +1

    I love your humour and video contents!

  • @heeroena
    @heeroena 2 роки тому

    Hi Kelvin, Love your videos. Which broker do you use for options trading?

  • @18180DanielL
    @18180DanielL Рік тому

    what is the total capital used for the 20k profit over 10 months?

  • @Jinsh0
    @Jinsh0 3 роки тому

    Superb video.. Probably one of the most useful one.. Also, I plan to ask for the spreadsheet, but you already share it at the end.. Nice..

  • @waikiankhoo8746
    @waikiankhoo8746 2 роки тому +1

    Kelvin can i ask u a question, If u own 100shares of a stock, then if you sell call options of the stock, will the trading platform still needs you to have huge amount of buying power in that account to do so? Because I know that if i dont have the stock, usually i will need to have alot of buying power in that account to sell naked options.

  • @jiazhenpang8034
    @jiazhenpang8034 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks Kelvin for the info, can you share your current portfolio with us? 😊

  • @augustinebenedict9955
    @augustinebenedict9955 2 роки тому

    Hi can I download Yr spread sheet . A link pls Kelvin

  • @Cozmik_Trading_Academy
    @Cozmik_Trading_Academy 2 роки тому

    Thanks Kelvin for the google doc. Ive been trading for a while learning every different strategy. I have learned that often you lose money learning. Now that i have done pretty much all of the techniques i truely believe that Selling Options is just about the best one. The issue for those with small accounts is the low ROI. But it is still the most consistent and best for a slow growing portfolio. I never touch my long-term portfolio but I am thinking of selling options because I can leverage the larger amount to buy more shares. Its all ETF dividend paying.

  • @mindislife
    @mindislife 2 роки тому

    What platform / broker do you use to trade options? Any website you recommend?

  • @TiOnGY
    @TiOnGY 2 роки тому

    Hi kelvin are u able to do a video on how much cash/total asset amount i need to maintain for margin when trading options? Thanks!

  • @icelemontea5402
    @icelemontea5402 2 роки тому

    Thanks Kevin, would you be able to go abit 1. do you sell on monthly or weekly? 2. when do you start to do rolling?

  • @royliuhm
    @royliuhm 3 роки тому +5

    Bro, I appreciate your work ethic and video style. Sibeh good sial.

  • @youngday77
    @youngday77 Рік тому

    Hi Kelvin, do you mind making an video to update how your option journey is doing now? Will be great to hear some learning from you on your journey. Thanks!

  • @watchLov
    @watchLov 2 роки тому +1

    Can I learn from you ?

  • @patriciatay243
    @patriciatay243 2 роки тому +1

    Kelvin, am I correct to say that interactive brokers is the ONLY trading platform in Singapore that allows for different types of option trading strategies like iron condor ? AND can Singaporeans use USA option trading platforms like tastyworks ? Many thanks in advance

  • @thumbodyelse21
    @thumbodyelse21 3 роки тому +1

    back in July I started a new strategy with my put options. I'm writing puts at 1% per week return. It sucks when a stock runs up and then I'm required to look for another stock to collect the next weeks 1%.

  • @sky301289
    @sky301289 3 роки тому +3

    Great video!
    What happens if you sell a put option and at expiry it is OTM, do you still need to buy it back or just leave it?

    • @sky301289
      @sky301289 2 роки тому

      Now I know, it will be worthless and removed at expiry

  • @KimSangS
    @KimSangS 3 роки тому +2

    Hi Kevin, would you consider open a course/webinar about how to buy/sell options? I'm sure there are other people like me who are new to trading will be happy to pay to attend the course.

    • @ibrahim43406
      @ibrahim43406 3 роки тому

      You can learn through the channel Option Alpha. No point paying for something you can learn for free

  • @clarenceng9666
    @clarenceng9666 3 роки тому +1

    Nice take on it. I also play abit of option here and there.
    What is your take on the best option stock to play now?
    Abit worried if the next coming weeks market might sell off as it does as it approaches end of the year

    • @KelvinLearnsInvesting
      @KelvinLearnsInvesting  3 роки тому

      Hmm... i think it's really any stock that you like to own. For me it's NIO, Tsla, Sq

  • @melvynong9755
    @melvynong9755 2 роки тому

    Is the premium from selling call or put (US Option) subject to tax in US or Singapore?

  • @roystonwong8873
    @roystonwong8873 2 роки тому +1

    hello! can you explain how rolling the optios nwork?

  • @kendrickcan3919
    @kendrickcan3919 2 роки тому +1

    Hi Kelvin, how does margins actually work? How would I know how much margins will I have and what is considered as 'safe' or 'unsafe' margin? I do have some stocks and also options and sometimes when I already have a few options, I cannot buy more shares because some or the money is 'stuck' in the options. So how do I know what is considered safe margin?
    Able to do a video on margin?

  • @skycheong1221
    @skycheong1221 3 роки тому

    Thanks to you i've started selling put option on TQQQ, MARA, SENS and UPST - Awesome!

  • @videohut4445
    @videohut4445 2 роки тому +1

    Good video.
    I'm a beginner at options trading.
    Do u have any videos that show beginners how to place calls and put trades step by step?
    This would be very helpful to beginners like me.

  • @Godai_Chen
    @Godai_Chen 3 роки тому +2

    sell call and put with margin are dangerous, need to be protected by iron condor, Kelvin can do it as he is in millionaire status soon

  • @pixelmasque
    @pixelmasque 2 роки тому

    Nice insight into the process

  • @tamildummy3928
    @tamildummy3928 10 місяців тому

    hi kevin , can you share the out come of this wheel strategy 2022 and 2023

  • @brandonlee5370
    @brandonlee5370 2 роки тому

    Hi kelvin, are you still selling C.call for Riot? Has that help to further lower your BE price? Thanks for explaining the wheel strat.

  • @miguelteran-raful2718
    @miguelteran-raful2718 2 роки тому

    Can you do an update on selling options? How are you doing with today's market!

  • @maxmax-ki3ej
    @maxmax-ki3ej 2 роки тому +1

    does it mean we need to stand by 80K USD in case sell PUT hit the strike price?

  • @junyaohan7895
    @junyaohan7895 3 роки тому +2

    I started in May doing mthly after learning from kelvin n chicken genius. so far so good. on avg 1k. i say do on stocks u dont mind to hold. also close early if can take profit(?)

    • @p6h14
      @p6h14 2 роки тому

      Hi Jun Yao, thank you for sharing. I'm just starting. May I know how often u trade? Do u have high capital and sell multiple contracts?

  • @boluckkid
    @boluckkid 2 роки тому

    Have you ever consider selling a call and put option on a same stock over a same expiration date?
    E.g Stock A is currently priced at $100.
    Suppose I sell a put option of $105 that will expire in a week’s time, along will a call option of $95 that will expire in the same period.
    If by the end of the week, the stock price is at $102 (or $98), neither the put option buyer will not force us to sell our stock at $105, nor the call option buyer will force us to buy the stock at $95.
    I’m still in the process of learning options so there might be something which I’m missing out on. I just thought that this might be a little too good to be true.

    • @user-ln2th5nq1g
      @user-ln2th5nq1g 2 роки тому

      If the stock price is at 102, put option buyer will sell you at 105, hence you lose 3. Call option holder will buy at 95, hence you lose 7.

  • @user-nv5kq2qb9p
    @user-nv5kq2qb9p 3 роки тому +4

    May I know which platform are you using to trade options? I've heard that tiger brokers does not do covered calls and cash covered puts

    • @jason56667
      @jason56667 3 роки тому

      not sure what he uses but his screen shares are tiger. moomoo allows csp and cc if requested. hope this helps

    • @YongShunLee
      @YongShunLee 3 роки тому

      He is using ibkr

  • @Soulsparksg
    @Soulsparksg 2 роки тому

    Have u heard of crypto option? how do u compare this 2 ?

  • @KashArtsKitchen
    @KashArtsKitchen 2 роки тому

    Ty for the tips bro you are awesome. May i ask after the option expires do u need to close the trade ? Also when you sell a put option for example are you paid immediately or only after the option is closed or expired. I realise you could close the option halfway and still make a profit sometimes

    • @KelvinLearnsInvesting
      @KelvinLearnsInvesting  2 роки тому +1

      If the option expires no need to close. When sell will immediately receive the money.

  • @saladbar9053
    @saladbar9053 3 роки тому +4

    I'm also doing it. But just be wary that if the market crash, you will end up (1) having a lot of ITM puts, (2) rolling over at a bad return and (3) forced to keep a large sum of money to upkeep your margin.

  • @evaedu8651
    @evaedu8651 5 місяців тому

    What capital amount do we need to earn $ 4500 per month using options?

  • @geno7598
    @geno7598 10 місяців тому

    Hey Kelvin! Enjoy your videos, however , as a newbie wanting to start trading could you give me some advice what i should do or start first? As the internet has over flow of information, quite overwhelming 😅

  • @666xexk
    @666xexk 3 роки тому

    Thanks for sharing. I noticed u sold tesla call option up to 4 quantity on the same date. Does it mean u need to own at least 400 tesla shares or u sell call on margin ? If sell on margin may i know how many tesla shares i need to own before i can sell call option on tesla.

  • @adrianchan6977
    @adrianchan6977 2 роки тому

    Kelvin _ can you do a video on where we can buying option for crypto . Thanks

  • @narm4
    @narm4 2 роки тому

    Just got to know about Nio recently, did my homework and bought their stock. Hope they manage to do well in futures.

    • @narm4
      @narm4 2 роки тому

      What? 😅

  • @kamaazlan1
    @kamaazlan1 2 роки тому

    Thanks Kelvin. Are those premium income taxable? If so how do you calculate for that?

  • @nkjnssalesco8861
    @nkjnssalesco8861 2 роки тому

    Thank you!

  • @kramnat79tan79
    @kramnat79tan79 Рік тому

    Does Moomoo support covered call option stetagy? Thanks Kelvin Bro!

  • @kokleongchia8479
    @kokleongchia8479 3 роки тому

    hi, #1 if you roll the option to avoid buy or sell the stock, how would u record them in your spreadsheet? #2 did you try to roll option in IB? if yes, how is it done? thanks

  • @tankh566
    @tankh566 2 роки тому

    For lead option, do we need to manually exerciser the Buy option to cancel off the sell option trade in TOS ?

  • @elanjelian
    @elanjelian 2 роки тому

    Hi Kelvin - Thanks for sharing your strategy with us. Two questions: 1) How are the premiums taxed? Are they treated like a capital gain, and thus not taxed for non-residents? 2) Have you tried to set both put and covered call options for the same stock at the same time? Thanks.

  • @andreandree4384
    @andreandree4384 3 роки тому +4

    Thks for sharing. Note that CSP is good for stock that doesn't keep falling otherwise you will incur losses that could be important if the prices go down below your cost basis. Similarly, CC is not suitable for stocks that keep going up, your profits will be capped. These two strategies are perfect for stocks that move in ranges!..

    • @jk35260
      @jk35260 11 місяців тому

      There really is no easy lunch. Stocks that move within ranges will usually fetch significantly lower premiums.

  • @darrenlp560
    @darrenlp560 3 роки тому

    Hello kel! I got a question.i tried to do sell put on nio last month but I wanna ask how much money must I have because inside I was holding Tesla stocks & palantir, before the market closes for the day it will auto close my position on palantir & Tesla stock. What should I do?

  • @loklok1244
    @loklok1244 2 роки тому

    take ur profit when it reaches 50% when u sell put. then sell a put at a higher strike price and then repeat

  • @houboon1001
    @houboon1001 2 роки тому

    Kelvin, which platform you are using for the option trading?

  • @user-qf4zv9sb6p
    @user-qf4zv9sb6p 2 роки тому

    Hi Kelvin, so far I only see u sell call and sell put, did u buy a call or buy a put? Which one u more recommended ? Thanks

    • @KelvinLearnsInvesting
      @KelvinLearnsInvesting  2 роки тому

      I don't really buy call or put. For buying i prefer to just buy stocks instead

  • @mrretired2715
    @mrretired2715 2 роки тому

    can you do a video of options in a bear market as we are in now mate.

    • @LegendMythicRider
      @LegendMythicRider 2 роки тому +1

      Kelvin is now bankrupt as all the sell put got exercised ;)

  • @bokslandart6649
    @bokslandart6649 4 місяці тому

    Morning bro & everyone,
    Selling the options need to prepare the amount required to purchase the stocks ? When sell options, the premium will be credited into the account immediately or when we close the position?

    • @KelvinLearnsInvesting
      @KelvinLearnsInvesting  4 місяці тому

      When sell, it will be credited immediately. You will be to prepare the amount required

  • @henrytay3302
    @henrytay3302 2 роки тому +1

    Hi Kelvin, Thank you for your videos and sharing your knowledge. I find the rolling option strategy interesting and like to learn more. Could you show how to do it?

    • @KelvinLearnsInvesting
      @KelvinLearnsInvesting  2 роки тому

      Sure sure, js pm me in discord

    • @Miko-jv9nw
      @Miko-jv9nw 2 роки тому

      Hi Kelvin. This is interesting. Could you show me how you do it too?

  • @boonkai2328
    @boonkai2328 2 роки тому

    Hi Kelvin, could you explain the importance of Delta, Implied volatility? is it advisable to sell put options ITM? because I realised that my put options did not get exercise when it reached the strike price. I was confused.

  • @amazinglove000
    @amazinglove000 2 роки тому

    Kelvin, how do u learn all this option trading on ur own? If I want to learn step by step, where can i learn from? tq

  • @Rayster1979
    @Rayster1979 Рік тому

    Hi Kelvin, can U do an updated video on how you are doing with the options trading?

  • @sakthiiti-ii530
    @sakthiiti-ii530 Рік тому

    you cracked me up with that animation

  • @iamallison8559
    @iamallison8559 3 роки тому

    Thank you for your video, it’s help people like me no experience in trading option understand better..

  • @KaiserBreath
    @KaiserBreath 3 роки тому +1

    Should the backup cash be always on the platform in case it got exercised and goes into margin when you need to buy the stocks? Or you can top up after going into margin?

    • @KelvinLearnsInvesting
      @KelvinLearnsInvesting  3 роки тому +1

      Don't have to be. You will know when the stock goes itm, then just be ready to top up.

  • @trendgeneration9005
    @trendgeneration9005 3 роки тому

    Hi Kelvin how much portfolio u have to generate such options income

  • @francistoh91
    @francistoh91 2 роки тому

    Hi, can I check can i sell put price at a higher strike price for ex PLTR at 26 now, if I brought a put option at strike price of 36, when the contract expire the price is at 28 below my strike price of 36 will I still get the sum?

  • @tankh566
    @tankh566 3 роки тому

    u mentioned that u do a sell put to buy back the share is ur option been called away.
    But the seller can chose not to sell you since ur sell put is not an obligation.

  • @fongheenkitaloka2800
    @fongheenkitaloka2800 3 роки тому

    What do you mean by roll? What are the steps to rolling?

  • @ashwin911
    @ashwin911 2 роки тому +1

    Hi Kelvin great videos, keep up the good work! I was wondering what brokerage you use? I use Saxo and unfortunately it does not allow selling options on higher risk stocks like AMC.

  • @strongstrengthtv
    @strongstrengthtv 3 роки тому

    Which strategy to use on options profit calculator to make money(at predicting the range/ the most noob friendly method to earn money?)

  • @Balkumarghale
    @Balkumarghale 2 роки тому

    I like to learn more about cal,n put......

  • @springabreaka7908
    @springabreaka7908 3 роки тому

    How much time do you use per week on either strategy and which broker you use? Thnaks

  • @shenguanghui4497
    @shenguanghui4497 2 роки тому +1

    HI Kelvin, if i (sell)cash covered put , and it fall below the strike price, the 100 stocks to buy, is it that will execute automatically and be billed or inform by the platform then proceed to buy? and during "Sell Call" can i confirm need to have stocks to execute the sell call?

    • @KelvinLearnsInvesting
      @KelvinLearnsInvesting  2 роки тому

      Before expiration, it won't execute immediately, the option buyer have to manually exercise it.
      After expiration, if in the money, it will execute immediately

    • @shenguanghui4497
      @shenguanghui4497 2 роки тому

      Thanks Sir

  • @dannygooey
    @dannygooey 3 роки тому +3

    Great video. I am starting to learn options. May I know what platform you use to do options trading? Does Tiger allow selling covered calls? Thanks 🙏

    • @KelvinLearnsInvesting
      @KelvinLearnsInvesting  3 роки тому +2

      I use ibkr. From what i heard, Tiger allows cc now, but i didn't verify it myself

    • @indigoNine
      @indigoNine 3 роки тому +2

      @@KelvinLearnsInvesting Hi, is it possible to do a step-by-step video on how to buy & sell options on IBKR? thanks!

    • @vivienlim2190
      @vivienlim2190 3 роки тому +1

      I would like to know too.

    • @dannygooey
      @dannygooey 3 роки тому +2

      That will be great showing how to do Options in IBKR!👍🏻 By the way, do we always let the Sell Put expires or can close early? Thanks 🙏

    • @KelvinLearnsInvesting
      @KelvinLearnsInvesting  3 роки тому +2

      @@indigoNine @Vivien Lim Here you go ua-cam.com/video/8X7alFOJeUM/v-deo.html

  • @jaydoubleyouisme
    @jaydoubleyouisme 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you senpai. If you were to sell monthly options at the same strike as your weekly, chances of it getting ITM is not low as there is more time for stocks like TSLA to do so, ie 20% increase in a week unlikely but in a month not unlikely.
    Maybe stay consistent with the delta of 0.1 too for monthly? I believe it would be further OTM.

    • @KelvinLearnsInvesting
      @KelvinLearnsInvesting  3 роки тому +2

      Yup, in a way, there's higher chance to hit. That's why i lower than 0.1 for safety

    • @fishphage2762
      @fishphage2762 3 роки тому +1

      but the premium are too low for such low delta

  • @cbcfcsk
    @cbcfcsk 2 роки тому

    Hi Kelvin, have been watching your videos and learning from u. Thank you for your selfless sharing. May i know whether we need to pay US taxes on the premium collected for selling the options?

  • @mjwkelvin
    @mjwkelvin 2 роки тому

    Hi Kelvin ... Kelvin here. :) How do you go about on stock selection on the cover calls and cash covered puts ? Any companies u will avoid or shortlist ?

  • @botech386
    @botech386 3 роки тому +1

    Hello guys any group in Singapore that trade options , would love to join one

  • @youtubet3e416
    @youtubet3e416 3 роки тому +1

    Hi Kelvin , make a tutorial on how to do rolling on ibkr? Because it seems that rolling is very important on wheel strategy. This can become a lifesaver . Thanks

    • @winslowwong9719
      @winslowwong9719 3 роки тому

      There’s a roll function on IBKR

    • @youtubet3e416
      @youtubet3e416 2 роки тому

      It’s best to learn from Kelvin master himself. And also I wonder can I roll a sell put option?

  • @wongjunjie6131
    @wongjunjie6131 3 роки тому

    can you make videos giving your opinion about chinese companies such as tencent, alibaba or didi?

  • @donald1983
    @donald1983 2 роки тому

    Hi Kelvin, for wheel strategy, how long of an option date to expiry will you choose? I saw in your other video that you usually choose 30 days? But in this video, seems like you choose around 3 day?

    • @KelvinLearnsInvesting
      @KelvinLearnsInvesting  2 роки тому

      When i first started i did weekly. But nowadays im doing monthly because it's less tiring

  • @dennisle4698
    @dennisle4698 3 роки тому +2

    How did you learn how to do this? Any videos or book?

    • @kkvictorng2707
      @kkvictorng2707 2 роки тому

      you can learn from his videos on various options strategies. Cash covered put and coverd calls.

  • @DaveD0121
    @DaveD0121 3 роки тому

    I used to do wheel as well but I stopped recently becoz if the price of the stock is high, eg SQ TLSA, it will cost too much margin my tiny account cannot afford. But if the stock is cheap

    • @DaveD0121
      @DaveD0121 3 роки тому

      As for stocks in 100-200 range and I’m long term bullish on, I would open ITM leap call and do PMCC hahaha, but for Tesla I can only afford to do spreads hahaha

    • @CalebSeah
      @CalebSeah 3 роки тому

      Synthetic is good. but need to know when to close it otherwise, if it goes against you. you'll see similar losses too!

  • @jonathanyeo9956
    @jonathanyeo9956 2 роки тому

    Kelvin, which trading platform you use?
    Do you use same platform for both legs of your Wheel strategy?
    1. Sell Cash Put
    2.Sell Covered Call

  • @teamplayer613
    @teamplayer613 2 роки тому

    Why you sold Nio call option below ur buying price?

  • @arunnoor
    @arunnoor 3 роки тому +2

    Hey Kelvin ! Can you make a video on taxes in Singapore how to save taxes and do we have capital gain tax here in Singapore ? 😊

    • @KelvinLearnsInvesting
      @KelvinLearnsInvesting  3 роки тому +3

      Ah taxes, lemme try to plan it. Luckily there's no capital gains tax here in sg

    • @chiyoimonoyama
      @chiyoimonoyama 3 роки тому

      Put into SRS account.

    • @arunnoor
      @arunnoor 3 роки тому

      Even insurance can reduce taxes

  • @emoworlds
    @emoworlds 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks master Kelvin! Been following your wheel strategy and raking in passive income. Really thankful ✌🏻

  • @nyapryan
    @nyapryan 3 роки тому +1

    where did u learn options strategy from?

    • @KelvinLearnsInvesting
      @KelvinLearnsInvesting  3 роки тому +2

      I started by watching 2 yt channels: "inthemoney" and "kamikazecash". I also joined subreddits like "thetagang" and "options"

  • @yyk664
    @yyk664 3 роки тому

    Thanks Kelvin, may I know what broker you are using?

  • @liweiwong9591
    @liweiwong9591 Рік тому

    Hi Kelvin, could u do a video on selling cash covered put and covered call using webull?