WWE did what they we contractually obligated to for CM Punk. They made him a champion for 15 months and he mainevented 1 PPV. And only because Cena was injured for that period. So this all mighty run he had was in the mid card. CM Punk lost the title over a year ago and has not had a title match since. For the last two WM's he had the best match of the night. I don't blame him for being jaded, physically drained and mentally exhausted. Fact is, he is entertaining and is the driving force behind why i watch RAW now. As for your thoughts on CM Punk being a hypocrite. He said and I quote. "I am a bad guy, I don't wear a white hat." Im not going to sit here and defend him. I think facts speak for themselves.
I been saying it for years I never understood why WWE bring in stars for Wrestlemania when you had guys working all year long to be on the show,Cm Punk is great worker great mic skills but the machine wasn't backing him up after the pimp bomb promo they scaled him back big time, then they turn him heel for no damn reason
You really need to get over yourself. You are a part of this annoying trend in the IWC of people who think they are above the rest of us and think that they understand the business better than the rest of us. You have this bias against anyone who is considered a favorite amongst the IWC. Why? I guess it's because if you ever did praise these guys and not nitpick at them you might be considered one of us and that would just be terrible, right? I also notice that you are very blinded by nostalgia, you probably wish it was the 80's or 90's again, right? Didn't you make a video during Punk's WWE title reign saying that he was basically a mid card and a transitional champion? But now you are giving WWE credit for it and suggesting that it was a good thing for Punk. I guess that was just you criticizing an IWC favorite again. I also remember you saying at one point that merchandise sales were not a big deal and if they were The Hurricane would have been a main eventer but now you are using that as a criteria for who gets the top spots? You call Punk a whiny bitch a lot and I keep wondering why is this a bad thing? seriously I don't get this attitude where it is considered a bad thing to voice our frustrations and let out our anger. I guess people expect us just to smile and get over it. Was it because he dares to criticize The Rock who you love so much? Who was Punk supposed to put over before he left? HHH again? Kane? He has already put Lesnar, Rock, Reigns over heck he did way more for Ryback than Cena ever did. You also go on and on about Punk being selfish and only caring about himself, how could you possibly know that? do you know what goes on backstage? Punk didn't just leave because he wasn't in the main event of Mania it was also because of how the WWE were treating guys like Bryan and Ziggler. Just because WWE is a cut-throat business doesn't mean the talent can't care for one an other. Lastly why do you keep going on and on about how the WWE works and that the breakfast club always comes out on top. Do you think you are enlightening us? We all know this but that doesn't mean we should just accept it. What do people mean when they say this is the real world anyway? just accept it and don't ever try to change it? Imagine if everyone had that attitude there would no progress in the world. I'm surprised you still have a lot of people who kiss your ass ever after that shitty newsletter and that awful video where you criticized fans for daring to ask what happened to your old channel.
I see the argument being made here about CM Punk. I think the coffee piece is digging real deep but I think CM Punk is standing his ground on wanting backstage stuff in WWE to be better. Is he doing it the right way? Probably Not (Austin 2002) but I feel he does want long-term storylines and wants new guys at the top. WWE could shake it up more and give other guys big chances. No issues with the video it's his perspective. I really like CM Punk he is one of my all-time favorites hopefully this can all be worked out between both parties. Good video
Did you ever think that just maybe CM Punk wanted to work with guys like Bryan,Reigns,Cesaro,Ziggler or Kofi before he left but was told he had to work with a HHH or Sheamus or even a Batista and that's what made him leave.
No he didn't. He wanted main event matches. Name one main eventer you just named. You can never get higher by going down the stairs Think about that. If you wanted to be the top guy, how are you going to prove that by facing guys lower than you. You can't become an Austin by facing Ken Shamrocks.
I Think Punk left for a number of reasons. I Think he was tired of being second fiddle to Orton,Cena and now Batista. When everyone and there grandma knows he's better then all of them and deserves to be put in that Main Event at Mania. And I also think that he's tired of having the same rivalries and the WWE not giving him fresh new rivals and there lack of pushing anyone new like a Reigns,Cesaro,Ziggler or a Kofi. Batista winning the rumble was the last straw for Punk they could of had Bryan win it then Punk win the title at the Chamber then set up that match and have it headline WrestleMania.
So you asked him? How do you know he didn't want to work with lower guys? I read awhile back he was pushing for a feud with cesaro and he was supposed to put him over with Kane interference on Monday main eventers work with mid carders all the time dude wise up.
Jakkey Brahh Oh ffs... "lack of pushing anyone new like a Reigns"? Who's holding the new elimination record for the Royal Rumble? Remind me, because I tend to forget.
Josh Perkins Right main eventers work with midcarders all the time but only people who have been at the top. Guys like HBK, Bret Hart, HHH, John Cena, Batista, Randy Orton. They all worked with midcarders only after they reached their top star status. Punk said it himself that he would never be top star with Cena and Orton around. No matter how many feuds he had with top guys, or how long he held the title he was still just above midcard but just under top star status just like Kane, Big Show, Rikishi, even Chris Jericho until he came back in 2008. Dude you should wise up
CM Punk doesn't want to fight B+ legends like Triple H lol. But anyway even as a CM Punk fan I still agree with you, maybe except the part where you said why he is a hypocrite, I think he just did his job and it was the people who hyped that and talked about a change. But I still think CM Punk is going comeback sometime after Wrestlemania, maybe somewhere around Summerslam(or maybe Royal Rumble, but that would seem like a big break) since Vince McMahon wants to see him back. And even tho CM Punk should of put over some younger guys before leaving, seeing Kofi Kingston(beats Randy Orton clean, few weeks later jobs to ADR) I think that those younger guys wouldn't benefit that much knowing WWE's booking.
Well said, at the end of the day it is a business, and Punk is a millionaire. Yes the breakfast club did screw up some of his story lines, however you are 100% right.
The one thing I must disagree is that you call hima hypocrite, while you are looking as the one in this video. So let me get this straight, for a LONG time you've been laughing at Punk for being ''midcard'' WWE champion and yet now you are saying that wwe gave him everything they could. Sure you're right, breakfestclub rules wwe, but still, he was a midcard wwe champion damnit and his title reign was ended by part timer. For WWe he was just the name that they made big only to put over other big names. He never won big match except MiTB 2011. WWE disrespected him so many times. And don't talk to me about him not putting others. If he would be selfish bastard he would left after they told him that he will be putting Reigns over almost clean on raw, as a usuall mid carder. You talk about him facing Lesnar as a favour to Punk, but this was just a way to make Lesnar look better after Triple H buried him. He never came on top after big angle, he was always a loser, his whole career was just putting others over. + It's funny how you call him 2 babyface in the company like this would mean something. In 2010 before Orton's face turn you can say Kingston was a number 2 babyface in the company and where he is right now? Pathetic.. The truth is that if you are not John Cena you won't make it in WWe as face, because only Cena matters.
Cm punk walking out on raw was the reason why the koffi match went so long I believe because they had to fill the extra slot which cm punk was supposed to have
Did Punk beat HHH? No. Did Punk beat the Rock? No. Did Punk beat Undertaker? No. Did Punk beat Brock Lesnar? No. Yeah, Punk had a couple signature victories over top guys (Jericho, Cena on a couple occasions) but why does Punk owe WWE anymore when he was probably going to lose once again to HHH this year anyways? Essentially, he probably in a way is "putting Daniel Bryan over" by quitting so that Bryan can wrestle a more meaningful match vs. HHH than to lower himself and have to wrestle a stale Sheamus. See it from all angles.
I hear you. I stopped watching wrestling when the invasion angle flopped and brought with it a bunch of boring characters. Summer of Punk brought me back, and now I am not sure if I can continue to watch without him. I will stick it out through Wrestlemania season and hope for a big Cesaro push because he is the only other guy I give two shits about.
pro wrestling in america has died, it's sad when 80 to 90 percent of our conversations about wrestling are about what's going on backstage we should be happy and having fun about what's happening on tv but they ain't giving it to us, it's time to stop watching this bullshit and start a movement for something else whether it's tna roh or japan or mexico check out some other shit and let these motherfuckers know you ain't happy watching this bs, boos and cheers don't mean shit money and ratings do, once you hit their money and ratings guarantee they start to listen
Heck CM Punk is pissed he has to wrestle Triple H. Yet John Cena who is a bigger star than Punk is going to wrestle Bray Wyatt. If anyone should be pissed off it's Cena.
thetoon99 Punk wrestled just as many big matches over the last few years as Cena. Rock, Jericho, Triple H, Undertaker, Daniel Bryan, Orton, Brock Lesnar, and John Cena. Those are all big matches. Punk is just being a little girl because he isn't getting his way. I like Punk, but him leaving is a chicken shit move on his part.
I never said Punk put to many guys I over. I agree with you there. Doesn't mean he has to just up and walk out like a coward. At least finish up your contract and get your big WrestleMania payday.
Very rarely is S'daddy wrong but on this issue. Man, I am behind CM Punk. I get what your saying about him not leaving in the right way, the normal way, the old skool way, I get it, and had been anyone else I might agree with you, but Punk I feel is taking a stance, he had been buried to a certain extent recently. For me CM Punk will always be one my favourites and the voice of the voiceless.
This is the cold and honest truth. As much as it pains me to say this, he's right. CM Punk left and understandably so, but he did indeed show no respect by the way he left. He could've put someone over like crazy before he left, and someone like Roman Reigns, Dean Ambrose, Antonio Cesaro, Alexander Rusev, Seth Rollins, Bray Wyatt, or probably Daniel Bryan could've used a rub like that from Punk. He owed it to the business, but at the same time, I can certainly understand why he quit. I don't blame him. He just showed how selfish he is by quitting off camera and not putting anybody over on the way out. The Schlegdaddy is absolutely right on this.
My Pastors message in church 2 Sunday's ago was to be a voice of the voiceless lmao. 3 people out of 600 laughed at his John Cena joke on a side note. I was 1 of the 3.
I've been watching otrs since a few months after they started. I agree with something's they say and something's I don't. However some people on here worship him just because he makes videos. I've seen people think one thing then watch a video and forget why they originally thought.
Josh Perkins That is true. In the early days I wasn't big on him and wrote some negative things here in the comments. I had like 90 people attacking me like they were defending the Pope lol.
The breakfast club would have never taken in Punk because he isn't big and tall... And yes he puts people over like HHH, Lesnar, Rock, and Reigns a couple weeks ago
Punk annoys the shit out of me and I'm happy he took his ball and went home. Can't stand him. As far as I'm concerned him leaving just means I don't have to change the channel during Raw as much now.
I agree with everything u said though its true. the cm punk shoot promo I think was a work when I thought about it because he mentioned rock's name planting seeds for the punk and rock feud
I am going to make this clear as I possibly can. WWE is never going to change. Let me say it again. WWE is NEVER going to change. Never ever!. WWE has zero competition. TNA is an ant WWE is the boot; I will let yall finish that metaphor. Even though WWE is not the big as they once was, all they care about is making enough to get by. It an't the 90s and back where WWE had to make big plays against WCW; those days are gone. And quite frankly I don't think that will ever happen again. To all the fans complaining long and hard, I get it. I understand you want change. I understand you want good quality wrestling. I understand you want new stars. But, there are days in every person's life where you have to call it quits. Yes, I said it. The battle that yall are trying to fight with the WWE yall lost that battle 8 years ago. McMahon had his mind up 8 years ago. And an't nothing and I mean nothing going to change his mind. Also, to the people that hate John Cena, I get it as well. Here is what you need to realize. Cena wouldn't have been in that top spot if it wasn't for Brock Lesnar leaving. But yet, people to this day don't blame Brock Lesnar. He gets a pass. Its time to either deal with it or find a new hobby. And for those people who think I am defending WWE don't realize that I gave up with this company. I know that this company is now for the kids. I know that this company will never get better. I learn to accept it and move on and away from it. I suggest yall do the same.
To me, the whole CM Punk leaving in 2011 was mostly a work. CM Punk's contract, his pipebomb, and his feelings about WWE booking him is real but him walking out with the title was a work. But this incident is 100% real. Because you don't walk out on WWE where the biggest ppv of the year is around the corner. I don't blame Punk for leaving because he's been treated like crap. And people chanting for Punk or demanding him to return won't do anything. The guy is wormed out. He's been wrestling for about 15 years I believed. That's a pretty long time. So if he's gone for good, maybe he'll come back when AJ Lee does but I don't see him coming back for about a year maybe never.
I do not like Triple H, but I bet all my money CM Punk would not have this attitude if he had the Championship belt, I wonder if he would be complaining about the young talent getting held back if he was getting his way, he is a great wrestler but if you don't know a lot of these guys personally you are just on the outside looking in
Punk has done nothing but put people over. Lesnar, Rock, Reigns. Yet you say he's being disrespectful for not putting someone over on the way out? Maybe he's sick of it.
Punk is expendable, no one man is bigger than the company especially someone like him. He never proved he could really connect with the fans regardless how much they pushed him. If he wants to leave then let him leave. He won't be missed.
Lol what!? He was the most over guy in the company til Bryan moved up. He out sold cena in merch. He got some of the biggest pops in the past few years. How in the blue moon can you say he didn't connect with the fans? I hate cena with a passion but I'd never say something about him that's not true just because I hate him. That's the diferance between wrestling fans and the hipster fans that hate everything that becomes popular.
Punk drew the lowest ratings for a WWE Champion in 15 years. He out sold in a little period of time but that doesn't mean he was the top guy. He has no real connection to fans who actually wants to pay to see him wrestle and that's what counts the most. His indyferric crap hasn't done shit to impact the product for the long term.
RockSolidEJV420 Okay. WWE has the highest stock when he left. You can say that Punk had the lowest ratings as a champ but it would not matter as he tops social media with Cena and Rock and Orton. No real connections to fans? Punk's focus is not just to connect, he either tells the cold truth or life is a lot tougher than you think. You think he is CRAP? How would you consider the countless indy wrestlers who got signed? How about all the wrestlers CM Punk brought to TV again before he left? If you were in his shoes, how would you manage a show being a LONE no degree writer/wrestler against these educated writers AND corporate 24/7? Lastly, CMPUNK merchandise DOES make an impact IN the long term bro with his MEDIA appearances.
Punk is a hypocrite. He claim he was going to be for the people and be against the system then he ends being a part of it. He used his promo just to become one of the breakfast club members because he was never going to get recognize. All the success he did wasn't because he speak the truth it was because he had to kiss ass because he had no other choice. WWE's stock will continue to rise whether he's there or not. He's not a key piece to there success compared to Cena.
If people (and I mean in a large group like what it seems to be) wants the WWE to change it's simple cut into their pocketbook. Stop buying the PPV's, stop buying tickets to the shows, stop watching the shows on TV, stop buying the merch, ignore them in every way possible. Paying for tickets to the show and chanting "Daniel Bryan" or "CM Punk" won't change it because they already got what they wanted... your money.
YES! YES! YES! Oh Testify Jeff YES! YES! YES! Guess who's next?? YES! YES! YES! No drawing overrated Internet/Indy Era comes to an End.. YES! YES! YES! But seriously, work or shoot, i feel bad for guys like Punk, who love the business, they have nowhere to go. That is why i still think the Attitude Era was at the End the worst Era for the business. For us Fans and the wrestlers are no other Options. WCW was one - where you could go, stay or become a big Star! TNA, ROH etc. are not an Option, sadly
When it comes down to it though, people mention a yes chant not lasting forever, and cm punk was only made by his pipebomb promo because he was frustrated is exactly how the business works, let's remind ourselves of austin 3:16, he cut one promo at king of the ring , next night there were austin 3:16 signs and he was pushed to the moon ever since .
Bullshit Schleg! If you heard CM Punks last interview he said he has no problem with Batista being the main event. How can you be a hypocrite and follow the dirt sheets without knowing all the facts first.
I have research and proof from CM Punks words in a video, while your research is just internet gossip. I like you Schleg but this is the worth video you have done. You rushed to conclusions at least wait till CM Punk gives his side of the story.
If you go back you can also hear Punk say he has no problem with it and Batista is his friend. My main point is that you don't know the full story why he left and your video is based off internet dirt sheets. You need to wait till both sides speak out.
The CM Punk walkout is likely reality. I'm 90% certain. The only thing holding back the other 10% of my confidence was the following: Triple H said we'd be seeing things happen unlike anything before in WWE history in 2014. Now we've seen Austin walkout and CM Punk leave in a work. I'm just saying perhaps this Punk walkout could be part of what Triple H foretold of.. but I'm only 10% confident about that. He could've meant the WWE Network..
So how would you have done it, Schleggers? I always thought it was funny the theme Punk chose as his new entrance theme upon becoming "the voice of the voiceless". It was quite fitting of his true intentions.
Disregarding most of what you said, the reason Punk got to that top spot is because he wanted to be there. A lot of Wrestlers (hell most wrestlers) dont have that drive or work ethic. Most are just satisfied being in the midcard or jobbing for others. Punk was not satisfied and was never going to be satisfied until he main evented Wrestlemania and thats what made him entertaining and fun to cheer for; and that in and of itself was an instrument of change.
He's put ppl over for years. I think he took this opportunity to leave and let his absence be felt. I'm sure Punk knows the criticism he will get for leaving but he's done this over and over and this mindset he has provided him with his rise to be honest. So overall I agree with everything you've said. Even the bad things about Punk. It's just ironic that the bad things about him is what has made him become successful. Imma take this as a lesson for my aspirations lol.
13:56 "Time after time after time... and video after video after video.. now year after year after year! I have tried to INSTRUCT so many of you.. to change what you think is reality! To understand what reality really is.. and that reality is .. that the breakfast club rules, BITCHES." LMFAO what an epic mother fucking rant "INSTRUCT" hahahahaha!!
Imagine if Bootista came back as a heel. being Triple H's friend, he gets a shot at the title at Wrestlemania. CM Punk wins the Royal Rumble, keep the Daniel Bryan and HHH feud the same, and after Bryan defeats HHH, he enters the main event which is a fatal 4 way between Randy, Batista, Punk and Bryan. Punk or Bryan win the title, then Batista , Randy & HHH start feuding with The Shield (nothing changing here) and then we get a series of awesome matches between Bryan and Punk and after that you throw in Brock , Cena, Seth Rollins after the heel turn to have some awesome title matches for the rest of the year, man...it could have been such an awesome 2014. but nooo. let's fuck it up WWE.
Wow, UA-cam gives you a lot of power. Anyone and just about anyone can make a video and sound like the messiah of masses. WWE never made CM Punk, CM Punk made CM Punk. WWE screwed him over time and time again. He was champ for over a year, where he was fighting mid card matches for the most part and Cena was stealing main event spot light. He was turned heel when his dvd was released to have him go against Cena and keep the belt warm for a returning Rock so that WWE can make Rock vs Cena (which was otherwise a bore fest) a lot more important, that is really a good treatment to a champ, isn't it? He had the best match of the year (in my opinion) against Lesnar and then he feuds in the mid card for the remainder of the year. That is really good thinking by WWE, isn't it? I would really like to know uploader's views on Cena, Batista, Triple H etc. Vince claims he made Stone Cold who he was whereas every fan of wrestling knows this isn't true. CM Punk was the ONLY active wrestler showing his protest for not including then US Champ Cesaro in WM last yr in a live press conference. That is really hypocrisy, isn't it? Again, respect to uploader's opinion, but not agreement. Daniel Bryan is being treated worse than Punk now. Do you still want to give WWE credit for making Daniel Bryan as popular as he is today? WWE sucks, Vince sucks, Triple H sucks and creative team can lick my left nut for all they dish out every week in RAW. Man, I was really a fan of this show back in the day but not anymore.
Cena did not steal anything from CM Punk, he was the main guy because he's the bread and butter or sports entertainment you Moron. He draws, CM Punk really has proven to be incapable of drawing any real money and BTW he is not Stone Cold and never will be.
Ryan Mcsween Cena tries to steal the spotlight from anybody who is more over than him. I always find it funny when people blame the wrestler for not being able to draw and not the way they are being used. If JTG was given the kind of push Cena gets he would be a pretty big draw too. Oh yes because no one from this era ever be as good as someone from the good old days right?
Ryan Mcsween Same Boring excuse that Cena draws So he has the right to be on top . Understand one thing Cena is at top because he got the chance to wrestle and beat stars like HBK, HHH, Batista, Edge and Rock at the grandest stage Mania. Tell me who has todays wrestler got to wrestle , Cena and at max Orton. How many wrestlers has Cena put over CLEAN, note I said clean. Hardly few. And even if he loses clean then also in months he is treated as the Man and not other wrestlers. Cena lost to Bryan clean but then what happened, Cena returns and win the tittle from Del Rio. Its the duty of Cena to put over young stars clean. Let us see if Cena and WWE puts Bray Wyatt over CLEAN at mania. My guesses are Cena will bury all three member of Wyatt family, or lose to wyatt with some interference and then in coming months own Wyatt family so that Bray looks like Fool. Ask Ziggler, Ask Ryback. Like craigh257 rightly said pust JTG to the same level like Cena even JTG will start to draw ratings.
craigh257 Oh really? you expect me to take you seriously after you ACTUALLY said JTG could be a big star if he got that push? I mean how long has it been since he's actually been on TV? 5 years or so? nothing personal against JTG, I actually feel bad for him because he does have talent. That said, Cena is where he is because he draws BIG $$$ and this is the entertainment industry. It's about what makes money, NOT who works the hardest. There are no ranks, if you don't make money then you will never be a star in WWE. Dolph Ziggler is a prime example of this. CM Punk is good and all.....but he is not on the level of a Cena or a Hogan simply because he's not a money maker like they are and that's why he never main events.
gameboys2020 I agree with everything you said except for the JTG comparison. Why him? there are plenty of other talented guys to use such as Bryan, Ziggler, Reigns etc....?
you could also point out that companies or the ones who sign these athletes to a contract shouldn't be catering to what the athletes want. it never has been like that yet everyone is me me me. not just in the wwe but nfl and every other sport.
He's not a hypocrite... On the promo against John cena he himself said that he wants to star all the movies and sell his merch.... How he is a hypocritic
I'm well aware that just like HHH, Cena, and Orton Punk has an ego of his own and as a CM Punk fan I am disappointed in him and feel let down. But I'm also not going to be so quick to shit all over him for not wanting to put anybody over on the way out because maybe Punk did wanna work with people such as Daniel Bryan, Antonio Cesaro, Roman Reigns etc. but the dipshits behind the scenes decide they wanna job him out to HHH at WrestleMania instead. Although I'm disappointed in him I don't blame him for leaving.
I kept switching between whether you're hurt or mad about CM Punk leaving during this video. But anyway, top me, the thing about him leaving is, it actually proves that his on-screen persona is not a fake He sells himself as something who marches to the beat of his own drum and doesn't give a damn. If you believe that, you shouldn't be surprised of his off-screen actions.
To say that Batista has earned more leverage in contracts with Punk is just laughable. Batista's impact on the WWE can be compared to that of Sheamus or Del Rio. Sure these guys had the belt a few times, but ultimately no one really ever gave a shit. And news flash, during Punk's face turn back in 2011, his merch, for several months, outsold Cena's and Rock's. Ratings fell shortly after because they always fall around the time football season starts. And despite being the hottest angle at the time, it had to be pushed aside for the Rock's appearances. If you think that Batista can draw more money than Punk, you're just out of your mind. Punk has never had a problem selling merch, and yet for some reason, for the past year, he's been a midcarder. And do you really think they'd just let Punk put over Ziggler, or Reigns, upon his request? Come on... you were just talking about how we need to get real and understand how the business works.
Tho it wasn't revealed until later in the year of '14 but Punk was apparently going to beat "God" HHH in a big match at Mania, but that still wasn't good enough apparently
I think CM Punk's "exposed self" was already "exposed" from the moment he sat down Indian style on top of the stage ramp in the summer of 2011 and said "I hate this Idea that you're the best cause your not (directed at Cena) I'm the best I'm the best in the world" I can't blame Punk though If I was him and had to go through the bullshit of having Rock, then Undertaker, then Brock Lesnar straight go over me and not once main evented a Mania I'd be pissed too
The only reason they let punk hold the title was to give it to the rock. Similar to when bret hart held it only to loose it to shawn. CM Punk wanted to win the title and turn heel on Bryan. Would of been a epic match. Maybe even could of went a hour long at mania. Punk and Bryan draw money. Punk out soled Cena at one point. Punk and Bryan main event at mania would of gave punk to put Bryan over big time. Bryan may still win at mania, but it will not mean anything. A 3 way match is not good. Just like Chris Benoit. Punk and bryan have flat out earned it. All the fans chant we want punk every night. They all chant yes. Punk is my champion in my heart.
I gotta believe he was pissed off and wasnt really thinking about putting anyone over. He probably just got fed up and chucked deuces. People tend to not care so much about things when they are angry, just saying
what people also dont understand is that cm punk is not who he really is outside of wrestling cm punk is his character outside of wrestling hes Phillip Brooks not Cm Punk. Its all part of the act that people get caught up in. just because he says hes straight edge and hes the voice of the voiceless dosent mean he is outside of wrestling. In the real world hes non of that odds are and he dosent give 2 fucks about the fans.
Indirectly, CM Punk has become an instrument of change. Whether he drinks his own koolaid is kinda moot at the moment. In 2011 he couldn't change things by sitting on his couch. In 2014 that's not the case. Was Triple H a step down? Yes, arguably. But with punk gone this forced the hand of creative to give a match that makes sense. Is Triple H a step up for Daniel Bryan? Yes. Not his intent but as of now that's what's happened. I hope he stays out for mania honestly. I don't begrudge him the time off or his reasoning.
CM Punk complains about part timers...but pushed for years to work with Stone Cold Steve Austin. HYPOCRITE. In WWE SIZE MATTERS...always has & always will.
I beg to differ. Punk does not care to be a draw alone, he writes for like five to ten wrestlers too or the whole show. Cena and Orton can still be a draw but you don't hear the fans cheer as loud as before.
Cm punk left because he was burnt out you could telll this leading up. Cm punk has said time in time out it's not about money and that he thinks guys like ryder,ziggler and under used guys get a push. he recently said in a interview because batista just comes in when daniel bryan has worked so hard and is the most over guy in the company. And batista winning the rumble and daniel bryan not being in was the last straw. i do belive its not about the money i do belive its about being burnt out like chris jericho or a stone cold in 2002 and cm punk has been very successful and gotten to a certain level and now he wants his friends to get over to a level. I KNOW its a shoot but i think wwe might make it a work being he left because of daniel bryan being held down and tired of triple h having problems and the paranoia
Looking at all of these comments from pretty much 5 years ago, all of their opinions have drastically changed. Punk been gone for 5 years, says he hates wrestling entirely, kept his wife who wasn't even 30 from continuing her career and got the beating of his life twice once by a guy who was 0-1. WWE as bad as it was in 2018 is still going on, They made Punk a star to the point where he could get into UFC with no fighting experience at all
This is 4 years late but I doubt he kept AJ Lee from wrestling. Things were likely awkward with her and the WWE given the situation. She said she retired because she did everything
Disagree with your point about him not putting over anyone on the way out. He's not walking away from the business. He's taking a break it seems. He may want to try MMA. He may just take a few months and return like Austin did. He's not retiring. So if he put people over on the way out, it would hurt his star power. He'll come back sooner then later I believe and continue his career. When he's ready to leave for good, I'm sure he'll have no problem putting people over. He hasn't in the past.
Quick question if we don't get any of what we want WHY WATCH THIS BULLSHIT! I know its hard stop watching the product as a whole. but At the end of the day i can care less about their business aspect of things cuz I toon in to be entertained for 3 hours and I end just getting more pissed. I understand why they think and run things the way they do but honestly I can care less I just want to entertained. Be honest isn't tht how all of us started watching the product. I got into to this because of how entertaing the attitude and ruthless agression eras were. I went back watched the 80s entertaing. BUT NOW A DAYS i question why I still watch. its just become a chore and even after my rantng i'll still prolly toon in and wwe knows thts what we all do and thts wht we need to stop doing. stop ordering all ppvs watch the crap online.Anyways if they keeps going down this path whenn the breakfast club steps down this company is gonna die. Were gonna have wrestlemania 40 main event john cena vs orton for the 1,256,999th time.
I didn't watch to video because it won't play on my device but ill give my opinion of punk leaving. As wrestling fans we tend to think we know a wrestler inside and out. We don't know exactly why he left, not the whole reason anyways. Punk wasn't happy with his spot and I don't blame him. I've always heard if your passionate about your job then you want to be the best in move up for punk that's main eventing one wm. as Austin said most of the roster is happy just getting a paycheck. Not punk and he just proved that. He wants to be the best. There are those happy just sitting around, those who care work hard and speak up just to move up then those who get handed everything. At the end of the day punk is a grown man who did the extremely wise thing and saved his money got tired of his dead end job and quit. I'm in a similar position sept I'm far from a millionaire. Of I were punk I'd at least tough it out til July tho. You can say he's a whinner and ungrateful but I see him as a passionate person who joined the wwe with goals to succeed instead to just make money like most. You can say he's a dick but I say think about all the good things he's done like the guy who got shot or buying Joey mercury a house. Find out the whole story when it comes to fan incidents and don't forget cena, orton and others have had there share. I've met punk and we talked for 30 mins just about comics and next to Kane he was the nicest guy.well that's my thoughts
Just to correct you, coffee is all right in the straight edge community. I am straight edge, I don't drink coffee because I don't like the flavor. But coffee is drank a lot in the society because we can't have drugs to wake us up so we will drink coffee. And some of us do consider it a drug but it isn't a set thing like no drinking or drugs
i completely agree and im a mark for bryan and punk....lets just say cm punk was tna investor and rips wwe...it possible he could have start another war (not saying because if punk went to tna, makes tna a threat, but its more of wwe's way of avoid any company rivaling them) ...punk has a mind for wrestling and it could draw other guys there like ziggler or worst bryan going to tna (because im sure if punk isnt stupid he would market bryan with shit ppl would actually buy like something that glows when he does the yes chant)....and really have tna get that fire like back when...if im wwe i would want to stay comfortable and i kinda do understand why they dont want every star getting big and being a main eventer because they get pull and if they dont get what they want they can take there talents some where else...and wwe really doesnt seem like there in the business for competing but expanding so they cant be touch again...SO thanks for your teaching i will allow them to make me smart fan...still as a DB i cant watch that fuck royal rumble match again that shit just made me mad in to many ways
Couple of guys came out in the last 24 hours or so, and don't believe it to be the last time we see him in wwe. JR thinks he'll be back after WM30. Sean Waltman thinks he'll still be in the WM card. Who knows? Vince supposedly wants him back, according to the same sources who broke all these reports. Let's see if cooler heads can prevail.
Let's think this through for a moment. Why would a guy who had the opportunity for the biggest payday of the year in a couple of months at WM, and then only a few months after that to the end of his contract just walk away? 1) Something really pissed him off 2) He's injured or too physically/mentally exhausted to continue 3) It's a storyline I don't see a 4th option. I'd like to give the WWE credit for a great work here, but I have ZERO faith in their ability to write something this compelling. Therefore I assume this is legit.The bottom line is he is a human being first and a wrestler by profession. People don't just walk away from their chosen profession without what they believe to be very good reasons. Maybe in the end Punk got tired of trying to "fight City Hall". Maybe it was the fact that for some people being #2 when you know you are better than #1 just isn't acceptable, regardless of a paycheck. Anyway, to date there has been no statement from him or the WWE, so at this point any thoughts about this are pure speculation, nothing more. I' for one am not ready to burn the effigy of the guy who got me interested in wrestling again after many years of not giving a shit about Super Cena and the WWE.
As a Punk fan, I still think this is a work just to give Batista, Christian, Sheamus and Cesaro an opening or for other wrestlers. WWE still advertises him on shop, march fanfest and powerrankings. Punk can do something like hide underneath the chamber like HBK continue their short feud at WMXXX because he is still Trips buddy or lead to main-event.
Im probably one of the few who has no problem with CM punk quitting. Like Kevin Nash said. "If your not in wrestling to make money your a fool". And he's right. It's a job that destroy's your body. And nobody will care about you when you don't entertain them anymore. So get paid while you can and go. And to people who don't like CM punk and think he will pay..... he's made millions working in WWE he will be fine. And yes he's made millions. John Cena alone makes 10 million a year and he's the top guy. CM Punk was like 3-4 guy. He's was getting paid.
***** so maybe he left because he had no passion for it anymore? And to stop from doing it for the money because he already had enough? Nash was smart, he's made his money and his body is not broken down, that deserves respect.
this is the realist video I have ever seen on WRESTLING good video!
WWE did what they we contractually obligated to for CM Punk. They made him a champion for 15 months and he mainevented 1 PPV. And only because Cena was injured for that period. So this all mighty run he had was in the mid card. CM Punk lost the title over a year ago and has not had a title match since. For the last two WM's he had the best match of the night. I don't blame him for being jaded, physically drained and mentally exhausted. Fact is, he is entertaining and is the driving force behind why i watch RAW now. As for your thoughts on CM Punk being a hypocrite. He said and I quote. "I am a bad guy, I don't wear a white hat."
Im not going to sit here and defend him. I think facts speak for themselves.
I been saying it for years I never understood why WWE bring in stars for Wrestlemania when you had guys working all year long to be on the show,Cm Punk is great worker great mic skills but the machine wasn't backing him up after the pimp bomb promo they scaled him back big time, then they turn him heel for no damn reason
A very well thought out and articulate video, certainly provided some gravitas and genuine insight into the current CM Punk/WWE issue. Very good work!
i very much agree with everything you said, epic stuff!
You really need to get over yourself. You are a part of this annoying trend in the IWC of people who think they are above the rest of us and think that they understand the business better than the rest of us. You have this bias against anyone who is considered a favorite amongst the IWC. Why? I guess it's because if you ever did praise these guys and not nitpick at them you might be considered one of us and that would just be terrible, right? I also notice that you are very blinded by nostalgia, you probably wish it was the 80's or 90's again, right?
Didn't you make a video during Punk's WWE title reign saying that he was basically a mid card and a transitional champion? But now you are giving WWE credit for it and suggesting that it was a good thing for Punk. I guess that was just you criticizing an IWC favorite again. I also remember you saying at one point that merchandise sales were not a big deal and if they were The Hurricane would have been a main eventer but now you are using that as a criteria for who gets the top spots?
You call Punk a whiny bitch a lot and I keep wondering why is this a bad thing? seriously I don't get this attitude where it is considered a bad thing to voice our frustrations and let out our anger. I guess people expect us just to smile and get over it. Was it because he dares to criticize The Rock who you love so much? Who was Punk supposed to put over before he left? HHH again? Kane? He has already put Lesnar, Rock, Reigns over heck he did way more for Ryback than Cena ever did.
You also go on and on about Punk being selfish and only caring about himself, how could you possibly know that? do you know what goes on backstage? Punk didn't just leave because he wasn't in the main event of Mania it was also because of how the WWE were treating guys like Bryan and Ziggler. Just because WWE is a cut-throat business doesn't mean the talent can't care for one an other.
Lastly why do you keep going on and on about how the WWE works and that the breakfast club always comes out on top. Do you think you are enlightening us? We all know this but that doesn't mean we should just accept it. What do people mean when they say this is the real world anyway? just accept it and don't ever try to change it? Imagine if everyone had that attitude there would no progress in the world.
I'm surprised you still have a lot of people who kiss your ass ever after that shitty newsletter and that awful video where you criticized fans for daring to ask what happened to your old channel.
this dude's a total mark lol
edgarschainsaw IWC? Is that some form o slang for people who don't like about 80% of the product and voice their opinions? Wow.
Well said Craig, this fella has acted like his shit doesn't stink for a while. It is nice to see someone saying it how it is.
IWC? Wtf is that about? Is that some sort of code for people who voice their opinions and don't like Cena?
edgarschainsaw
huh?
I see the argument being made here about CM Punk. I think the coffee piece is digging real deep but I think CM Punk is standing his ground on wanting backstage stuff in WWE to be better. Is he doing it the right way? Probably Not (Austin 2002) but I feel he does want long-term storylines and wants new guys at the top. WWE could shake it up more and give other guys big chances.
No issues with the video it's his perspective. I really like CM Punk he is one of my all-time favorites hopefully this can all be worked out between both parties. Good video
Did you ever think that just maybe CM Punk wanted to work with guys like Bryan,Reigns,Cesaro,Ziggler or Kofi before he left but was told he had to work with a HHH or Sheamus or even a Batista and that's what made him leave.
No he didn't. He wanted main event matches. Name one main eventer you just named. You can never get higher by going down the stairs
Think about that. If you wanted to be the top guy, how are you going to prove that by facing guys lower than you. You can't become an Austin by facing Ken Shamrocks.
I Think Punk left for a number of reasons. I Think he was tired of being second fiddle to Orton,Cena and now Batista. When everyone and there grandma knows he's better then all of them and deserves to be put in that Main Event at Mania. And I also think that he's tired of having the same rivalries and the WWE not giving him fresh new rivals and there lack of pushing anyone new like a Reigns,Cesaro,Ziggler or a Kofi. Batista winning the rumble was the last straw for Punk they could of had Bryan win it then Punk win the title at the Chamber then set up that match and have it headline WrestleMania.
So you asked him? How do you know he didn't want to work with lower guys? I read awhile back he was pushing for a feud with cesaro and he was supposed to put him over with Kane interference on Monday main eventers work with mid carders all the time dude wise up.
Jakkey Brahh Oh ffs... "lack of pushing anyone new like a Reigns"? Who's holding the new elimination record for the Royal Rumble? Remind me, because I tend to forget.
Josh Perkins Right main eventers work with midcarders all the time but only people who have been at the top. Guys like HBK, Bret Hart, HHH, John Cena, Batista, Randy Orton. They all worked with midcarders only after they reached their top star status. Punk said it himself that he would never be top star with Cena and Orton around. No matter how many feuds he had with top guys, or how long he held the title he was still just above midcard but just under top star status just like Kane, Big Show, Rikishi, even Chris Jericho until he came back in 2008. Dude you should wise up
Well, I'm glad someone had the balls to say it.
wow dude..looking..you are 100% absolutely correct about what happen....
you really know what you're talking about.
CM Punk doesn't want to fight B+ legends like Triple H lol. But anyway even as a CM Punk fan I still agree with you, maybe except the part where you said why he is a hypocrite, I think he just did his job and it was the people who hyped that and talked about a change. But I still think CM Punk is going comeback sometime after Wrestlemania, maybe somewhere around Summerslam(or maybe Royal Rumble, but that would seem like a big break) since Vince McMahon wants to see him back. And even tho CM Punk should of put over some younger guys before leaving, seeing Kofi Kingston(beats Randy Orton clean, few weeks later jobs to ADR) I think that those younger guys wouldn't benefit that much knowing WWE's booking.
Well said, at the end of the day it is a business, and Punk is a millionaire. Yes the breakfast club did screw up some of his story lines, however you are 100% right.
Dude, WE DON'T FUCKIN CARE HOW WWE WORKS WE WANT GOOD WRESTLING END OF STORY HOW HARD IS THAT TO UNDERSTAND.
The one thing I must disagree is that you call hima hypocrite, while you are looking as the one in this video. So let me get this straight, for a LONG time you've been laughing at Punk for being ''midcard'' WWE champion and yet now you are saying that wwe gave him everything they could. Sure you're right, breakfestclub rules wwe, but still, he was a midcard wwe champion damnit and his title reign was ended by part timer. For WWe he was just the name that they made big only to put over other big names. He never won big match except MiTB 2011. WWE disrespected him so many times. And don't talk to me about him not putting others. If he would be selfish bastard he would left after they told him that he will be putting Reigns over almost clean on raw, as a usuall mid carder. You talk about him facing Lesnar as a favour to Punk, but this was just a way to make Lesnar look better after Triple H buried him. He never came on top after big angle, he was always a loser, his whole career was just putting others over. + It's funny how you call him 2 babyface in the company like this would mean something. In 2010 before Orton's face turn you can say Kingston was a number 2 babyface in the company and where he is right now? Pathetic.. The truth is that if you are not John Cena you won't make it in WWe as face, because only Cena matters.
I disagree that WWE made CM Punk a top star. They allowed him to become a top star. They didn't try to get him over, he did it on his own.
the point you made about maybe why the wwe hasnt put punk in the big big position being because they can't trust him, was a VERY good point
Cm punk walking out on raw was the reason why the koffi match went so long I believe because they had to fill the extra slot which cm punk was supposed to have
Well thank you Punk for the much needed nap
Why can't you people wait till CM Punk gives his side of the story? The dirt sheets are not always right.
Cool story Smokey. How's cat heaven?
Did Punk beat HHH? No. Did Punk beat the Rock? No. Did Punk beat Undertaker? No. Did Punk beat Brock Lesnar? No. Yeah, Punk had a couple signature victories over top guys (Jericho, Cena on a couple occasions) but why does Punk owe WWE anymore when he was probably going to lose once again to HHH this year anyways? Essentially, he probably in a way is "putting Daniel Bryan over" by quitting so that Bryan can wrestle a more meaningful match vs. HHH than to lower himself and have to wrestle a stale Sheamus. See it from all angles.
It just sucks. Punk was one of the only ones I gave a shit about and now I have really nothing to watch for. I'm about to stop watching this company.
I hear you. I stopped watching wrestling when the invasion angle flopped and brought with it a bunch of boring characters. Summer of Punk brought me back, and now I am not sure if I can continue to watch without him. I will stick it out through Wrestlemania season and hope for a big Cesaro push because he is the only other guy I give two shits about.
pro wrestling in america has died, it's sad when 80 to 90 percent of our conversations about wrestling are about what's going on backstage we should be happy and having fun about what's happening on tv but they ain't giving it to us, it's time to stop watching this bullshit and start a movement for something else whether it's tna roh or japan or mexico check out some other shit and let these motherfuckers know you ain't happy watching this bs, boos and cheers don't mean shit money and ratings do, once you hit their money and ratings guarantee they start to listen
Heck CM Punk is pissed he has to wrestle Triple H. Yet John Cena who is a bigger star than Punk is going to wrestle Bray Wyatt. If anyone should be pissed off it's Cena.
thetoon99 Punk wrestled just as many big matches over the last few years as Cena. Rock, Jericho, Triple H, Undertaker, Daniel Bryan, Orton, Brock Lesnar, and John Cena. Those are all big matches. Punk is just being a little girl because he isn't getting his way. I like Punk, but him leaving is a chicken shit move on his part.
I never said Punk put to many guys I over. I agree with you there. Doesn't mean he has to just up and walk out like a coward. At least finish up your contract and get your big WrestleMania payday.
Very rarely is S'daddy wrong but on this issue. Man, I am behind CM Punk. I get what your saying about him not leaving in the right way, the normal way, the old skool way, I get it, and had been anyone else I might agree with you, but Punk I feel is taking a stance, he had been buried to a certain extent recently.
For me CM Punk will always be one my favourites and the voice of the voiceless.
This is the cold and honest truth. As much as it pains me to say this, he's right. CM Punk left and understandably so, but he did indeed show no respect by the way he left. He could've put someone over like crazy before he left, and someone like Roman Reigns, Dean Ambrose, Antonio Cesaro, Alexander Rusev, Seth Rollins, Bray Wyatt, or probably Daniel Bryan could've used a rub like that from Punk. He owed it to the business, but at the same time, I can certainly understand why he quit. I don't blame him. He just showed how selfish he is by quitting off camera and not putting anybody over on the way out. The Schlegdaddy is absolutely right on this.
WWE has no respect for their fans what's your point ?
I agree it is selfish of CM Punk but yes the dude is hurting. And I don't blame him either. Wherever he goes I hope he's happy.
bluegoblin!!!!
Oh how many people have left without putting someone over? That is one of the poorest things I've heard.
Schlegdaddy is the new CM Punk: he has the balls to say things that nobody else has the balls to say.
My Pastors message in church 2 Sunday's ago was to be a voice of the voiceless lmao. 3 people out of 600 laughed at his John Cena joke on a side note. I was 1 of the 3.
I've been watching otrs since a few months after they started. I agree with something's they say and something's I don't. However some people on here worship him just because he makes videos. I've seen people think one thing then watch a video and forget why they originally thought.
Josh Perkins That is true. In the early days I wasn't big on him and wrote some negative things here in the comments. I had like 90 people attacking me like they were defending the Pope lol.
The breakfast club would have never taken in Punk because he isn't big and tall... And yes he puts people over like HHH, Lesnar, Rock, and Reigns a couple weeks ago
Or Cena, Cena never puts anyone over.
TRUTH. Great video dude!
Punk annoys the shit out of me and I'm happy he took his ball and went home. Can't stand him. As far as I'm concerned him leaving just means I don't have to change the channel during Raw as much now.
Well he's the best thing about Wrestling.
I change the channel when Cena is on. Talk about boring Cena sucks.
I agree with everything u said though its true. the cm punk shoot promo I think was a work when I thought about it because he mentioned rock's name planting seeds for the punk and rock feud
I am going to make this clear as I possibly can. WWE is never going to change. Let me say it again. WWE is NEVER going to change. Never ever!. WWE has zero competition. TNA is an ant WWE is the boot; I will let yall finish that metaphor. Even though WWE is not the big as they once was, all they care about is making enough to get by. It an't the 90s and back where WWE had to make big plays against WCW; those days are gone. And quite frankly I don't think that will ever happen again.
To all the fans complaining long and hard, I get it. I understand you want change. I understand you want good quality wrestling. I understand you want new stars. But, there are days in every person's life where you have to call it quits. Yes, I said it. The battle that yall are trying to fight with the WWE yall lost that battle 8 years ago. McMahon had his mind up 8 years ago. And an't nothing and I mean nothing going to change his mind.
Also, to the people that hate John Cena, I get it as well. Here is what you need to realize. Cena wouldn't have been in that top spot if it wasn't for Brock Lesnar leaving. But yet, people to this day don't blame Brock Lesnar. He gets a pass.
Its time to either deal with it or find a new hobby. And for those people who think I am defending WWE don't realize that I gave up with this company. I know that this company is now for the kids. I know that this company will never get better. I learn to accept it and move on and away from it. I suggest yall do the same.
To me, the whole CM Punk leaving in 2011 was mostly a work. CM Punk's contract, his pipebomb, and his feelings about WWE booking him is real but him walking out with the title was a work. But this incident is 100% real. Because you don't walk out on WWE where the biggest ppv of the year is around the corner. I don't blame Punk for leaving because he's been treated like crap. And people chanting for Punk or demanding him to return won't do anything. The guy is wormed out. He's been wrestling for about 15 years I believed. That's a pretty long time. So if he's gone for good, maybe he'll come back when AJ Lee does but I don't see him coming back for about a year maybe never.
Despite all the bad things happening this week, their stock prices are almost as high as they were back in '99 which is amazing news for them.
If this ended up being a work shoot I would take back half of the bad things I've said about the WWE Creative. NOT GONNA HAPPEN!
It's simple: If you don't like the product, stop buying, stop watching, stop talking about it. That's how you get the message across.
I do not like Triple H, but I bet all my money CM Punk would not have this attitude if he had the Championship belt, I wonder if he would be complaining about the young talent getting held back if he was getting his way, he is a great wrestler but if you don't know a lot of these guys personally you are just on the outside looking in
another great video on CM Punk situation,the fans need to realise,do you think he will come back though ?
Punk has done nothing but put people over. Lesnar, Rock, Reigns. Yet you say he's being disrespectful for not putting someone over on the way out? Maybe he's sick of it.
I agree with everything you said.
Punk is expendable, no one man is bigger than the company especially someone like him. He never proved he could really connect with the fans regardless how much they pushed him. If he wants to leave then let him leave. He won't be missed.
Lol what!? He was the most over guy in the company til Bryan moved up. He out sold cena in merch. He got some of the biggest pops in the past few years. How in the blue moon can you say he didn't connect with the fans? I hate cena with a passion but I'd never say something about him that's not true just because I hate him. That's the diferance between wrestling fans and the hipster fans that hate everything that becomes popular.
Punk drew the lowest ratings for a WWE Champion in 15 years. He out sold in a little period of time but that doesn't mean he was the top guy. He has no real connection to fans who actually wants to pay to see him wrestle and that's what counts the most. His indyferric crap hasn't done shit to impact the product for the long term.
RockSolidEJV420 Okay. WWE has the highest stock when he left. You can say that Punk had the lowest ratings as a champ but it would not matter as he tops social media with Cena and Rock and Orton. No real connections to fans? Punk's focus is not just to connect, he either tells the cold truth or life is a lot tougher than you think. You think he is CRAP? How would you consider the countless indy wrestlers who got signed? How about all the wrestlers CM Punk brought to TV again before he left? If you were in his shoes, how would you manage a show being a LONE no degree writer/wrestler against these educated writers AND corporate 24/7? Lastly, CMPUNK merchandise DOES make an impact IN the long term bro with his MEDIA appearances.
Punk is a hypocrite. He claim he was going to be for the people and be against the system then he ends being a part of it. He used his promo just to become one of the breakfast club members because he was never going to get recognize. All the success he did wasn't because he speak the truth it was because he had to kiss ass because he had no other choice. WWE's stock will continue to rise whether he's there or not. He's not a key piece to there success compared to Cena.
didn't Stone Cold do something similar to this back in the day?
If people (and I mean in a large group like what it seems to be) wants the WWE to change it's simple cut into their pocketbook. Stop buying the PPV's, stop buying tickets to the shows, stop watching the shows on TV, stop buying the merch, ignore them in every way possible. Paying for tickets to the show and chanting "Daniel Bryan" or "CM Punk" won't change it because they already got what they wanted... your money.
YES! YES! YES! Oh Testify Jeff YES! YES! YES! Guess who's next?? YES! YES! YES! No drawing overrated Internet/Indy Era comes to an End.. YES! YES! YES!
But seriously, work or shoot, i feel bad for guys like Punk, who love the business, they have nowhere to go. That is why i still think the Attitude Era was at the End the worst Era for the business. For us Fans and the wrestlers are no other Options. WCW was one - where you could go, stay or become a big Star! TNA, ROH etc. are not an Option, sadly
Theres gonna be a show here in vegas in february and they keep advertising it with cm punk in it
Hey did you had another youtube channel?
"things he might to one degree believe and things he may want to believe himself to think should be true"-schlegdaddy '14
When it comes down to it though, people mention a yes chant not lasting forever, and cm punk was only made by his pipebomb promo because he was frustrated is exactly how the business works, let's remind ourselves of austin 3:16, he cut one promo at king of the ring , next night there were austin 3:16 signs and he was pushed to the moon ever since .
Can you please explain why you call them The Breakfast Club. I have seen the movie and see no real reason why they are connected.
Matthew Mandula .....What?
PhilosophyofGoats
Well shouldn't he call them the Brat Pack then?
Bullshit Schleg! If you heard CM Punks last interview he said he has no problem with Batista being the main event. How can you be a hypocrite and follow the dirt sheets without knowing all the facts first.
Believe he actually just a week or two ago that he didn't like Batista being in the main event. You might want to do some more research
I have research and proof from CM Punks words in a video, while your research is just internet gossip. I like you Schleg but this is the worth video you have done. You rushed to conclusions at least wait till CM Punk gives his side of the story.
May I suggest finding a more recent cm punk interview where he said he didn't like batista in the main event
If you go back you can also hear Punk say he has no problem with it and Batista is his friend. My main point is that you don't know the full story why he left and your video is based off internet dirt sheets. You need to wait till both sides speak out.
The CM Punk walkout is likely reality. I'm 90% certain. The only thing holding back the other 10% of my confidence was the following: Triple H said we'd be seeing things happen unlike anything before in WWE history in 2014. Now we've seen Austin walkout and CM Punk leave in a work. I'm just saying perhaps this Punk walkout could be part of what Triple H foretold of.. but I'm only 10% confident about that. He could've meant the WWE Network..
Cm punk pulled a stone cold , he was like fuck that I am going home and fuck aj lee
So how would you have done it, Schleggers?
I always thought it was funny the theme Punk chose as his new entrance theme upon becoming "the voice of the voiceless". It was quite fitting of his true intentions.
Disregarding most of what you said, the reason Punk got to that top spot is because he wanted to be there. A lot of Wrestlers (hell most wrestlers) dont have that drive or work ethic. Most are just satisfied being in the midcard or jobbing for others. Punk was not satisfied and was never going to be satisfied until he main evented Wrestlemania and thats what made him entertaining and fun to cheer for; and that in and of itself was an instrument of change.
He's put ppl over for years. I think he took this opportunity to leave and let his absence be felt. I'm sure Punk knows the criticism he will get for leaving but he's done this over and over and this mindset he has provided him with his rise to be honest. So overall I agree with everything you've said. Even the bad things about Punk. It's just ironic that the bad things about him is what has made him become successful. Imma take this as a lesson for my aspirations lol.
13:56 "Time after time after time... and video after video after video.. now year after year after year! I have tried to INSTRUCT so many of you.. to change what you think is reality! To understand what reality really is.. and that reality is .. that the breakfast club rules, BITCHES." LMFAO what an epic mother fucking rant "INSTRUCT" hahahahaha!!
Cm punk we want him back as world champ plz support
Imagine if Bootista came back as a heel. being Triple H's friend, he gets a shot at the title at Wrestlemania. CM Punk wins the Royal Rumble, keep the Daniel Bryan and HHH feud the same, and after Bryan defeats HHH, he enters the main event which is a fatal 4 way between Randy, Batista, Punk and Bryan. Punk or Bryan win the title, then Batista , Randy & HHH start feuding with The Shield (nothing changing here) and then we get a series of awesome matches between Bryan and Punk and after that you throw in Brock , Cena, Seth Rollins after the heel turn to have some awesome title matches for the rest of the year, man...it could have been such an awesome 2014. but nooo. let's fuck it up WWE.
Wow, UA-cam gives you a lot of power. Anyone and just about anyone can make a video and sound like the messiah of masses. WWE never made CM Punk, CM Punk made CM Punk. WWE screwed him over time and time again. He was champ for over a year, where he was fighting mid card matches for the most part and Cena was stealing main event spot light. He was turned heel when his dvd was released to have him go against Cena and keep the belt warm for a returning Rock so that WWE can make Rock vs Cena (which was otherwise a bore fest) a lot more important, that is really a good treatment to a champ, isn't it? He had the best match of the year (in my opinion) against Lesnar and then he feuds in the mid card for the remainder of the year. That is really good thinking by WWE, isn't it? I would really like to know uploader's views on Cena, Batista, Triple H etc. Vince claims he made Stone Cold who he was whereas every fan of wrestling knows this isn't true. CM Punk was the ONLY active wrestler showing his protest for not including then US Champ Cesaro in WM last yr in a live press conference. That is really hypocrisy, isn't it? Again, respect to uploader's opinion, but not agreement. Daniel Bryan is being treated worse than Punk now. Do you still want to give WWE credit for making Daniel Bryan as popular as he is today? WWE sucks, Vince sucks, Triple H sucks and creative team can lick my left nut for all they dish out every week in RAW. Man, I was really a fan of this show back in the day but not anymore.
Cena did not steal anything from CM Punk, he was the main guy because he's the bread and butter or sports entertainment you Moron. He draws, CM Punk really has proven to be incapable of drawing any real money and BTW he is not Stone Cold and never will be.
Ryan Mcsween Cena tries to steal the spotlight from anybody who is more over than him. I always find it funny when people blame the wrestler for not being able to draw and not the way they are being used. If JTG was given the kind of push Cena gets he would be a pretty big draw too. Oh yes because no one from this era ever be as good as someone from the good old days right?
Ryan Mcsween Same Boring excuse that Cena draws So he has the right to be on top . Understand one thing Cena is at top because he got the chance to wrestle and beat stars like HBK, HHH, Batista, Edge and Rock at the grandest stage Mania. Tell me who has todays wrestler got to wrestle , Cena and at max Orton. How many wrestlers has Cena put over CLEAN, note I said clean. Hardly few. And even if he loses clean then also in months he is treated as the Man and not other wrestlers. Cena lost to Bryan clean but then what happened, Cena returns and win the tittle from Del Rio. Its the duty of Cena to put over young stars clean. Let us see if Cena and WWE puts Bray Wyatt over CLEAN at mania. My guesses are Cena will bury all three member of Wyatt family, or lose to wyatt with some interference and then in coming months own Wyatt family so that Bray looks like Fool. Ask Ziggler, Ask Ryback.
Like craigh257 rightly said pust JTG to the same level like Cena even JTG will start to draw ratings.
craigh257 Oh really? you expect me to take you seriously after you ACTUALLY said JTG could be a big star if he got that push? I mean how long has it been since he's actually been on TV? 5 years or so? nothing personal against JTG, I actually feel bad for him because he does have talent. That said, Cena is where he is because he draws BIG $$$ and this is the entertainment industry. It's about what makes money, NOT who works the hardest. There are no ranks, if you don't make money then you will never be a star in WWE. Dolph Ziggler is a prime example of this. CM Punk is good and all.....but he is not on the level of a Cena or a Hogan simply because he's not a money maker like they are and that's why he never main events.
gameboys2020 I agree with everything you said except for the JTG comparison. Why him? there are plenty of other talented guys to use such as Bryan, Ziggler, Reigns etc....?
I love this guy.
What a great fucking video, man.
I completely agree with you too.
you could also point out that companies or the ones who sign these athletes to a contract shouldn't be catering to what the athletes want. it never has been like that yet everyone is me me me. not just in the wwe but nfl and every other sport.
totally agree with everything you said Shleg
He's not a hypocrite... On the promo against John cena he himself said that he wants to star all the movies and sell his merch.... How he is a hypocritic
I'm well aware that just like HHH, Cena, and Orton Punk has an ego of his own and as a CM Punk fan I am disappointed in him and feel let down. But I'm also not going to be so quick to shit all over him for not wanting to put anybody over on the way out because maybe Punk did wanna work with people such as Daniel Bryan, Antonio Cesaro, Roman Reigns etc. but the dipshits behind the scenes decide they wanna job him out to HHH at WrestleMania instead. Although I'm disappointed in him I don't blame him for leaving.
I kept switching between whether you're hurt or mad about CM Punk leaving during this video. But anyway, top me, the thing about him leaving is, it actually proves that his on-screen persona is not a fake He sells himself as something who marches to the beat of his own drum and doesn't give a damn. If you believe that, you shouldn't be surprised of his off-screen actions.
To say that Batista has earned more leverage in contracts with Punk is just laughable. Batista's impact on the WWE can be compared to that of Sheamus or Del Rio. Sure these guys had the belt a few times, but ultimately no one really ever gave a shit.
And news flash, during Punk's face turn back in 2011, his merch, for several months, outsold Cena's and Rock's. Ratings fell shortly after because they always fall around the time football season starts. And despite being the hottest angle at the time, it had to be pushed aside for the Rock's appearances.
If you think that Batista can draw more money than Punk, you're just out of your mind. Punk has never had a problem selling merch, and yet for some reason, for the past year, he's been a midcarder.
And do you really think they'd just let Punk put over Ziggler, or Reigns, upon his request? Come on... you were just talking about how we need to get real and understand how the business works.
Schlegdaddy just laid his own pipe bomb.
Tho it wasn't revealed until later in the year of '14 but Punk was apparently going to beat "God" HHH in a big match at Mania, but that still wasn't good enough apparently
I think CM Punk's "exposed self" was already "exposed" from the moment he sat down Indian style on top of the stage ramp in the summer of 2011 and said "I hate this Idea that you're the best cause your not (directed at Cena) I'm the best I'm the best in the world" I can't blame Punk though If I was him and had to go through the bullshit of having Rock, then Undertaker, then Brock Lesnar straight go over me and not once main evented a Mania I'd be pissed too
The only reason they let punk hold the title was to give it to the rock. Similar to when bret hart held it only to loose it to shawn. CM Punk wanted to win the title and turn heel on Bryan. Would of been a epic match. Maybe even could of went a hour long at mania. Punk and Bryan draw money. Punk out soled Cena at one point. Punk and Bryan main event at mania would of gave punk to put Bryan over big time. Bryan may still win at mania, but it will not mean anything. A 3 way match is not good. Just like Chris Benoit. Punk and bryan have flat out earned it. All the fans chant we want punk every night. They all chant yes. Punk is my champion in my heart.
from inside sources.. this is 1000% legit. My personal opinion is that the WWE will go to great lengths to bring him back
he made great points in the video
except for the " never put anyone over on the way out " comment, I wholeheartedly agree with everything else
I gotta believe he was pissed off and wasnt really thinking about putting anyone over. He probably just got fed up and chucked deuces. People tend to not care so much about things when they are angry, just saying
what people also dont understand is that cm punk is not who he really is outside of wrestling cm punk is his character outside of wrestling hes Phillip Brooks not Cm Punk. Its all part of the act that people get caught up in. just because he says hes straight edge and hes the voice of the voiceless dosent mean he is outside of wrestling. In the real world hes non of that odds are and he dosent give 2 fucks about the fans.
Indirectly, CM Punk has become an instrument of change. Whether he drinks his own koolaid is kinda moot at the moment. In 2011 he couldn't change things by sitting on his couch. In 2014 that's not the case. Was Triple H a step down? Yes, arguably. But with punk gone this forced the hand of creative to give a match that makes sense. Is Triple H a step up for Daniel Bryan? Yes. Not his intent but as of now that's what's happened. I hope he stays out for mania honestly. I don't begrudge him the time off or his reasoning.
CM Punk complains about part timers...but pushed for years to work with Stone Cold Steve Austin. HYPOCRITE. In WWE SIZE MATTERS...always has & always will.
Punk will always be Macho Man to Cena's Hogan. He may be cooler, and better on the mic, and a better wrestler, but he isn't quite the draw.
I beg to differ. Punk does not care to be a draw alone, he writes for like five to ten wrestlers too or the whole show. Cena and Orton can still be a draw but you don't hear the fans cheer as loud as before.
Cm punk left because he was burnt out you could telll this leading up. Cm punk has said time in time out it's not about money and that he thinks guys like ryder,ziggler and under used guys get a push. he recently said in a interview because batista just comes in when daniel bryan has worked so hard and is the most over guy in the company. And batista winning the rumble and daniel bryan not being in was the last straw. i do belive its not about the money i do belive its about being burnt out like chris jericho or a stone cold in 2002 and cm punk has been very successful and gotten to a certain level and now he wants his friends to get over to a level. I KNOW its a shoot but i think wwe might make it a work being he left because of daniel bryan being held down and tired of triple h having problems and the paranoia
SledgeDaddy, your words have woken me up a little bit more, wwe has become less appealing now.
100% true schlegdaddy.
Looking at all of these comments from pretty much 5 years ago, all of their opinions have drastically changed. Punk been gone for 5 years, says he hates wrestling entirely, kept his wife who wasn't even 30 from continuing her career and got the beating of his life twice once by a guy who was 0-1. WWE as bad as it was in 2018 is still going on, They made Punk a star to the point where he could get into UFC with no fighting experience at all
This is 4 years late but I doubt he kept AJ Lee from wrestling. Things were likely awkward with her and the WWE given the situation. She said she retired because she did everything
This guy's awesome spot on
This guy actually does a lot of thinking. He actually makes a lot of sense. But he is not really all that bright.
Disagree with your point about him not putting over anyone on the way out. He's not walking away from the business. He's taking a break it seems. He may want to try MMA. He may just take a few months and return like Austin did. He's not retiring. So if he put people over on the way out, it would hurt his star power. He'll come back sooner then later I believe and continue his career. When he's ready to leave for good, I'm sure he'll have no problem putting people over. He hasn't in the past.
Quick question if we don't get any of what we want WHY WATCH THIS BULLSHIT! I know its hard stop watching the product as a whole. but At the end of the day i can care less about their business aspect of things cuz I toon in to be entertained for 3 hours and I end just getting more pissed. I understand why they think and run things the way they do but honestly I can care less I just want to entertained. Be honest isn't tht how all of us started watching the product. I got into to this because of how entertaing the attitude and ruthless agression eras were. I went back watched the 80s entertaing. BUT NOW A DAYS i question why I still watch. its just become a chore and even after my rantng i'll still prolly toon in and wwe knows thts what we all do and thts wht we need to stop doing. stop ordering all ppvs watch the crap online.Anyways if they keeps going down this path whenn the breakfast club steps down this company is gonna die. Were gonna have wrestlemania 40 main event john cena vs orton for the 1,256,999th time.
Punk put too many people over during the last year. Another wasted chance at creating the next main stream star. Punk had a chance. WWE blew it.
I didn't watch to video because it won't play on my device but ill give my opinion of punk leaving. As wrestling fans we tend to think we know a wrestler inside and out. We don't know exactly why he left, not the whole reason anyways. Punk wasn't happy with his spot and I don't blame him. I've always heard if your passionate about your job then you want to be the best in move up for punk that's main eventing one wm. as Austin said most of the roster is happy just getting a paycheck. Not punk and he just proved that. He wants to be the best. There are those happy just sitting around, those who care work hard and speak up just to move up then those who get handed everything. At the end of the day punk is a grown man who did the extremely wise thing and saved his money got tired of his dead end job and quit. I'm in a similar position sept I'm far from a millionaire. Of I were punk I'd at least tough it out til July tho. You can say he's a whinner and ungrateful but I see him as a passionate person who joined the wwe with goals to succeed instead to just make money like most. You can say he's a dick but I say think about all the good things he's done like the guy who got shot or buying Joey mercury a house. Find out the whole story when it comes to fan incidents and don't forget cena, orton and others have had there share. I've met punk and we talked for 30 mins just about comics and next to Kane he was the nicest guy.well that's my thoughts
Kurt Angle, Sting, and Hulk Hogan will come to the WWE this year and then nobody will speak of Punk again
Cm punk sounds like a Shawn Michaels
Just to correct you, coffee is all right in the straight edge community. I am straight edge, I don't drink coffee because I don't like the flavor. But coffee is drank a lot in the society because we can't have drugs to wake us up so we will drink coffee. And some of us do consider it a drug but it isn't a set thing like no drinking or drugs
Will Schlegdaddy take over as AJ Lee's boyfriend now? Kofi Kingston? Big E Langston? JBL? Fandango? Goldust? Place your bets here..
i completely agree and im a mark for bryan and punk....lets just say cm punk was tna investor and rips wwe...it possible he could have start another war (not saying because if punk went to tna, makes tna a threat, but its more of wwe's way of avoid any company rivaling them) ...punk has a mind for wrestling and it could draw other guys there like ziggler or worst bryan going to tna (because im sure if punk isnt stupid he would market bryan with shit ppl would actually buy like something that glows when he does the yes chant)....and really have tna get that fire like back when...if im wwe i would want to stay comfortable and i kinda do understand why they dont want every star getting big and being a main eventer because they get pull and if they dont get what they want they can take there talents some where else...and wwe really doesnt seem like there in the business for competing but expanding so they cant be touch again...SO thanks for your teaching i will allow them to make me smart fan...still as a DB i cant watch that fuck royal rumble match again that shit just made me mad in to many ways
Couple of guys came out in the last 24 hours or so, and don't believe it to be the last time we see him in wwe. JR thinks he'll be back after WM30. Sean Waltman thinks he'll still be in the WM card. Who knows? Vince supposedly wants him back, according to the same sources who broke all these reports. Let's see if cooler heads can prevail.
Punk doesn't look healthy. He needs a break. I assume he finally realized this.
CM punk said that he wanted Bryan to main event wm30
Let's think this through for a moment. Why would a guy who had the opportunity for the biggest payday of the year in a couple of months at WM, and then only a few months after that to the end of his contract just walk away?
1) Something really pissed him off
2) He's injured or too physically/mentally exhausted to continue
3) It's a storyline
I don't see a 4th option.
I'd like to give the WWE credit for a great work here, but I have ZERO faith in their ability to write something this compelling. Therefore I assume this is legit.The bottom line is he is a human being first and a wrestler by profession. People don't just walk away from their chosen profession without what they believe to be very good reasons. Maybe in the end Punk got tired of trying to "fight City Hall". Maybe it was the fact that for some people being #2 when you know you are better than #1 just isn't acceptable, regardless of a paycheck.
Anyway, to date there has been no statement from him or the WWE, so at this point any thoughts about this are pure speculation, nothing more. I' for one am not ready to burn the effigy of the guy who got me interested in wrestling again after many years of not giving a shit about Super Cena and the WWE.
As a Punk fan, I still think this is a work just to give Batista, Christian, Sheamus and Cesaro an opening or for other wrestlers. WWE still advertises him on shop, march fanfest and powerrankings. Punk can do
something like hide underneath the chamber like HBK continue their
short feud at WMXXX because he is still Trips buddy or lead to main-event.
Im probably one of the few who has no problem with CM punk quitting. Like Kevin Nash said. "If your not in wrestling to make money your a fool". And he's right. It's a job that destroy's your body. And nobody will care about you when you don't entertain them anymore. So get paid while you can and go. And to people who don't like CM punk and think he will pay..... he's made millions working in WWE he will be fine. And yes he's made millions. John Cena alone makes 10 million a year and he's the top guy. CM Punk was like 3-4 guy. He's was getting paid.
***** so maybe he left because he had no passion for it anymore? And to stop from doing it for the money because he already had enough? Nash was smart, he's made his money and his body is not broken down, that deserves respect.
I agree with you Schlegdadddy.
Wwe should understand they're pissing off their fans. Fans should not chant we want refunds during a match. Orton and cena ain't good for business
you should make a video on how the wwe really works