This was a bungle on par with the finish to Wrestlemania X-7. It actually may eclipse it, in terms of long-term detrimental impact. Honestly, the only person to blame here is 'Taker. It's not his first mistake politically. The way he completely and unprofessionally buried DDP (and more importantly, Kanyon, who could have been a full-on star) during the Invasion springs immediately to mind. But this was a mistake. A massive one. The story was unworthy of it. The build-up was unworthy. The man he dropped it to was unworthy. The reaction from the crowd was the exact opposite of what WWE intended. That tepid reaction really said it all. I was in attendance when Shawn Michaels retired at Wrestlemania right here in my hometown. THAT was a Wrestlemania moment worthy of a legend's retirement. That Undertaker did the honors was completely appropriate. Their feuds throughout both men's careers were legendary. Kane was the only right man for the job, in my opinion. From a storyline standpoint, from a physical standpoint (he'll be around another couple years, at least). Yet because of a ludicrous 'Korporate Kane' angle that is going exactly nowhere... we were robbed of a moment that would have simultaneously lent closure to the Undertaker's story arc with his 'brother', legitimized Kane's career in a way that has eluded him throughout his tenure, and sent the fans home secure in the knowledge that the streak had ended in a way that made actual sense.
Thank you so much for this video. You nailed all the points. This match was painful to watch and even more painful to digest. It wasn't even shocking, it was anticlimactic, plain and simple.
WM25 was the last time Taker looked strong. Since then, I've kind of felt sorry for him because he looked frail. Retiring at 20-0 would have been better to me. Still, it's his body and his decision. After the cheers stop, he is the one who has to live with the pain.
I've been told Mark already decided to give it to Lesnar like 3 years prior to WM30... bah, who knows anymore? All I know is it wouldnt've happened without Mark's approval.
***** That what you said is the Central point for me. It would have been way better for the WWE if Cena had done it, the People should hate the decision that would be the right Heat to create. But not with a Guy who is for the most people a UFC and not a WWE guy, i can not belive the WWE had allowed this, terrible for the Business, Takers wish or not.
***** I respect your Opinion, but Cena is getting booed nearly 10 Years. But the time was not right for me, Taker should have stopped at WM XXVIII. Brock is not the right guy for me, because as i said the most people worldwide consider him as a UFC guy now. And he does not want to be in the business full time, therefore i think it was bad for the business, he does not get the right heat, imagine how much hate Cena,HHH or an HBK get/gotten. LOL
Undertaker knew the clock was ticking on his career and him coming back for Mania was taking a real number on his body as is made apparent. It kinda seems like Taker was that girl who was so desperate for a date she would've said yes to anyone who accepted. He wanted HBK or HHH to break and they said no. It's a blessing Punk didn't break it since he ended up leaving anyway. Lesnar is a believable choice and the moment that it ended up giving you was brilliant but I do agree the match should've been a whole hell of a lot better. I feel as though the only reason the build wasn't better and the match sucked was to make us want the match to be over with due to the finish being "so obvious" and then bam the ref's hand goes down for three and we're all left flabbergasted.
Also I keep hearing more fans say how bad the match was. And they're right it was, but that is because Taker could not go. He's toast. He no longer is capable of having big time matches without getting injured.
What would of been best was what Jim Ross said, have the World Champion John Cena face the Undertaker for the title at Wrestlemania 31 and have the Undertaker win, then the next night have the new champ The Undertaker come out and says "Thanks" towards Cena for a last match and finally retire, in which everyone wins.
This is hands down the worst booking decision in the history of this company. I just don't understand how they can throw WrestleMania and their #1 attraction under the bus for some part time piece of shit like Lesnar who has disrespected the business more than anybody has. I really find this hard to believe that Taker signed off on this and if he did then shame on him too for tarnishing something so great and iconic. I'll always love Taker but this booking decision was a pile of shit and now I hope that next year's WrestleMania does the worst buyrate in history just to show them their stupidity. That company now has proven they deserve to go to hell in a handbasket because it is run by a bunch of dipshits that know nothing about wrestling
Taker chose lesnar to beat him WWE didn't tell taker he had to lose to brock apparently taker always wanted the streak to end and he picked lesnar because in his mind he's the most believable person to do it...it wouldn't be fair for taker to keep wrestling when his body can't take it no more. Taker wanted brock to win and retire In peace we all may not agree with it but that's the way taker wanted to go out
Because if this was gong to be the match that ended the streak, they could have done a hell of a lot better building up a feud that culminated into a great match and a memorable send-off for a legend. None of that happened. The match felt unimportant and since it was potentially Taker's last match, it shouldn't have. I feel like the Brock wouldn't be getting as much heat if the match and feud were actually worthwhile. It was just a terrible way to end it.
Are people forgetting that it's Vince Kennedy McMahon is the ONLY who gives the green light to something like this?? Vince coulda veto'd this shit but nooooooooo.....
In all honesty the streak should have ended with Bray Wyatt putting the nail in the coffin, probably the last match for Taker & the first for Bray Wyatt especially when he was so over.
Undertaker picked Lesnar because he's a fan of MMA and figured why not lose the most badass guy on the roster. He's a former UFC heavyweight champion for fucks sake. Who other guy in wrestling can do that? If you respect Taker then you should respect his opinion. And if he gave it to any of the younger guys then it could risk going to waste cause who knows if they will over in the future. And that's WWE's fault for holding the younger talent down for all these years.
But it's allready going to waste with LESNER lol ... I know what u mean with him being UFC heavyweight champ and all but he pretty much slapped cena , orton , punk and any other guy that's stayed with the company and didn't leave like Brock did
That only makes Brock more respectable. A guy that in real life can kick anyone's ass on the roster would actually lose clean and sell to other wrestlers because he understands the business. Something that these egotistical guys like Cena are so afraid of doing.
i disagree. 1: Since Lesnar returned and and lost to Cena he "put over" wrestling over UFC, so him winning doesnt really invalidate Taker's earlier opponents. 2: Taker's loss to Lesnar puts TOXIC heat on Lesnar and at the same time raises his profile. Remember when Lesnar's music would his when a Punk/Cena/3MB were in the ring and you knew some shit was going down? Well now it means much much more since its the guy that beat the unnbeaten. 3: Since he is a part timer, why not have him beat a fellow part timer?
OMG a 300+ pound MMA fighter in his mid-30's defeated a 50 year old fellow part-timer who's had multiple hip,knee,and shoulder surgeries in the last decade That is sooooooo unrealistic! :)
We know its scripted. Its like watching Bruce Lee fight George St. Pierre. Yeah you gotta imagine GSP (5'11" 170lbs) is a better fighter but Bruce lee (5'7" 128 lbs) is a legend. In the octagon Id give it to GSP but in a movie Bruce Lee should be able to take on the entire UFC roster at once. Undertaker is the Bruce lee of wrestling, few men short of Hogan should stand a chance against him. Its not about size and strength, its about respect for the ones who paved the way for you.
At the end of the day,it was Takers Call. It wasn't Vinces or Hunters. It was Takers. So don't blame Vince or the WWE for this clusterfuck if your mad you have to blame Taker. I think the Streak needed to end but a young guy like Roman Reigns or Bray Wyatt should of done it. Cause ending the iconic streak immediately cements your name in History. Brock had nothing to gain from this because hes already accomplished a lot. But a Reigns or Wyatt had everything to gain.
Toon Griffey Yeah Brock ending the streak is like when he was in the right place in the right time to beat an old, beat up Randy Coture for the Heavyweight title in UFC. He is a completely over rated neanderthal.
Yeah Brock hasn't done anything because winning King of the Ring and then winning the Undisputed Championship by beating a star like the rock within your first 4 months at the company is nothing. Or what about winning the Royal Rumble on your first appearance or how bouts main eventing your first ever Wrestlemania and you win the WWE title. Or what about how Brock originally was only in the company for 2 years and became a huge star!!! Or what about winning the UFC Heavyweight Championship on your 4th MMA fight. Yeah Couture was old but he wasn't a pushover. I don't like Brock breaking the streak but to say he's done nothing is dumb as hell.
Jakkey Brahh he has done nothing impressive. Ufc/mma doesn't count in WWE. Compare a Brock lesnar track list to a John Cena, Rey Mysterio, Chris Jericho, HBK, Triple H etc who deserve that type of title n there arsenal. Brock is not worthy a sport to sport jumper. GTFOH!
Your right there was no build up to this match no story nothing ... , never got personal , emotional nothing , I feel a bray wyatt vs taker story would have been amazing
We were fortunate that Taker's Streak went on as long as it had. If they ended it, especially during the 2000s or prior to Mania 25, you would've seen a full scale riot. Once Taker hit 20 at Mania 28, it was an achievement bigger than the Streak itself. THE RECORD.
I think that was his choice really but the build was poor and match was terrible but Undertaker wanted Brock Lesnar to end the streak . I think since he was at the one UFC event when Brock lost the UFC Heavyweight Championship to Cain Vasquez and confronted him it started there .
A really good Point from you in this Video Jeff, i have my doubts that Bryan Danielsons Title win really will be remembered that much in the Years and Decades to come thinking of WrestleMania XXX. I still feel the same as the Fans did in the Arena everyone was legit pissed no real Heat for Lesnar and no big Ovation for Taker, just a Big What the ?? Same Feeling like at X-seven, you thought good Show but something really terrible for the Business happened.
sneak2attack I don't need to correct you sir, because it looks you are soo cool come out here try to talk trash, but his name is Bryan Danielson. And if you had read carefully it was Bryan Danielsons title win i was talking about. Oohh... I'm way to old try to be cool
this is the way I see it before watching the video #1 you have now stripped away something special from WM & future WM's #2 you given the streak a black eye , if taker remained undefeated say 25-0 at least in 30 or 50 years time you can look back and say there was that wrestler called the undertaker who has a streak for 20 years & was never beat , but now he has a lose to me its less special . #3 what was the point off the streak now that taker has a lose ? what was the point in taker being put over 21 times at WM ?? if he isn't going to be undefeated or make a new star ? #4 the streak was broke by a 34 past his prime part time wrestler who hasn't gotten a rub out off it , at least give it to someone young who you want to build & sell tickets for the next 10 years they could have waited till it was 24-0 and given it to a new star
***** "you can't trust a new guy to stay long and sell the tickets if you hand him a victory as major as this." That's what I keep telling people when they say "ERMAGERD BRAY GOT BURRIED BAH JOHN CENUR HURR!" As hot as they get, there's still a thing called "too soon".
I had heard that at first, CM Punk would be the guy to end the streak, because it had been said that Taker wanted Punk to do it, so why he chose Brock to do it is beyond me. The streak should never have been broken, but you know the WWE, they're wonderful at not giving us what we want.
My idea was that they should have had Sting at WM 31 have an IRON MAN MATCH that way the streak could have ended but not end. Sting could have scored 1 pin fall and be the first man ever to score a pineal on Taker so technically be the first to beat him but the match end with Taker scoring two pinfalls and all around winning!
i feel 100% with you man. im not old as u at all but i really did care about the streak and now its over. i always wanted a legend to end it if it ever ended. i never wanted it to end tho. sad moment it wasnt right
It's funny how in his previous video, Schleggdaddy said that Batista should've won the main event to secure his position as a top top TOP heel, as a full on 100% hated heel is something difficult to create nowadays, yet he hasn't mentioned anything about maybe that's what they've just tried to do with Lesnar? And it kind of worked...
I say congratulations to taker! I think this was the best way to have done it if he were going to do it. Every one who follows taker knows he respects the hell out of real fighting and would of done it himself, if it made the money it dose now, back then. So letting a legitimate fighter like Brock, who has also proved himself in the wwe universe as a impressive athlete, beat him makes sense. But the most important thing is he did something that in this day of age of dirt sheet and lose lips was thought impossible in the wrestling business, he made everyone a mark. Not since Bruno Sammartino losing his belt to Ivan Koloff has there been such a reaction from an audience. Undertaker cemented his career in this moment and showed the world how lucky we were to lay witness to such an incredible performer. There is not a sole you can ever mention, outside of Bruno Sammartino, who can lay claim to such a feat. Forget legend, forget Mr. WrestleMania, Undertaker has become a legitimized wrestling god,after that match, who is second to NO ONE.
Also at some point do a reunion vid, with Canned Heat. Even if it's chopped up/ via 6 different web cams. It would be nice to see you guys back togather for one show.
Seeing this at 2018...this is still relevant today.Brock is currently Universal champion and he is closing in to cm punks record of his own streak lmao still part time and not putting anyone over due to nonsense booking and they are slapping people still across the face. Mind you had wrestlemania with a too late match with stupid booking of taker vs cena. It didnt matter without the streak..did i mention they gave roman the year before Roman another win over taker...
Taker has given us everything he had for over 20 years, he has busted his ass every time for the sake of our entertainment. He deserved to choose when and where he wanted to lose. As we saw in the match he just couldn't do it anymore. Respect it. It hurts us, true wrestling fans but we have to let it go. We owe him that much.
cm punk cares about mma more than wrestling, undertaker cares more about mma than wrestling...the problem is not only has ufc taken the hearts of many of the wwe's fans, it has taken the hearts of wwe's workers as well.
nah, Taker has wanted Lesnar to break it for a few years and whatever Taker wants, he gets, and so he should really. Not that I agree with it being Lesnar btw just to clear that up
I'm super glad the streak is over. I've always wanted the streak to be over. But Lesnar was the opposite of the right choice. Completely the wrong direction.
The streak ending was just bad... I am a huge Daniel Bryan mark but I couldn't enjoy his epic moment at the end because I was emotionally drained out when the streak ended...
Well said, schleg. They ended the streak just for the sake of ending it, if we're going to be completely honest here. I just can't ever get behind that. It was an absolute waste. It's almost too stupid to even try and debate. One of the worse decisions made in WWE history.
why is everyone mad? In my opinion it was the greatest moment in wwe history i loved it also the way every fan's jaw dropped when the ref slammed his hand the 3rd time it was amazing i watched it like 100 times
I can imagine this was a hard video for you to do. But onto my point. When I think about it like this, I was a bit like you when I heard the news of Taker's streak being broken. I was in immediate shock at first. But at the same time, once I felt the shock wore off, I was saddened at this, because I knew from one standpoint that perhaps it was high time to stop being a kid holding onto those childish memories and that it was high time to grow up. I also knew that the Streak was coming to an end at some point in time, but I just didn't know when and where or who was going to be the one guy to end it. At the same time, I also think, "Why this fucker who hadn't been in the company for 10 years?" But ultimately, the decision was made. Doesn't mean we have to like it, but it is what it is and this is something we have to accept at some point in our lives.
Horrible build up, match and payoff. Lesnar will still be the same part time monster heel after this, so nothing was gained from ending the Streak. Best to forget about it like the WCW Invasion.
I had a good feeling that Schlegdaddy would extremely pissed at this. "Who in the fuck thought this was a good idea!?" ...I imagine Taker, so I'm not going to argue. The way I see it, Lesnar was simply in the right place at the right time to defeat an old and broken down Undertaker. I for one will take the moment as it is and give many thanks to the Undertaker for giving something so special. Saying that the streak ending ruined the rest of the show is a bit of an over-exaggeration. Sure the crowd was dead for the start of the main event, but by the time HHH came back out they quickly came back to life.
I share your feelings on everything I still can't believe that The undertaker wanted it to go out this way but Vince McMahon said no one will be bigger than the WWE
Honestly,I don't see the problem because all people talk about online is how the WWE is so predictable but when they do something out of left field people still get pissed. I thought it was a surprise finish for a bad match. Plus, it's time for the WWE to move past the Undertaker streak storyline at WM and start a new tradition of some sort. Also, I don't think the crowd was to upset because by the end of the night 70,000 was doing the YES CHANT.I hate the Undertaker lost too but lets move forward. HOLLA AT YA BOY,PEACE!!!
Couldn't agree more. I couldn't wait to share my comments on this so I let it all out on your "Will the WWE do what's right" review early today. I'm too upset to type it all again but if you have the time please read my comment. Again I was too impatient and posted it under your last review. Ha - Brotha RoN-
My initial reaction was... "what the hell?" Surprisingly I have taken the streak ending pretty well though. I thought I would be a lot angrier but I have kind of accepted it. I really hope they use this heat and have Brock put over someone like Bryan.
it's hard not to believe this culminated from Undertaker at UFC after Brock / Cain fight but aside from that Iagree with Shlegg there was bad build up for something this big
I have not heard one guy defend the booking decision. I've heard rumors that Taker got injured during the match and called the end in the ring, but that's purely speculation.
There are no clips that I know of. I have heard that Taker was to injured and called the finish on the fly because he couldn't continue anymore. I've also heard that Lesnar was suppose to win along so I have no idea. You can believe what you want. I was just saying what I thought I heard and that was Undertaker say count to 3.
I love the logic people are using to defend Lesnar winning. "Brock is a legit badass UFC Fighter so in a real fight he would beat Taker." So in a real life, Bryan shouldn't be champion because no way could he beat HHH, Batista, and Orton all in 1 night. Also Lesnar is a badass.......WHO ALREADY LOST TO 2 WRESTLERS........so once again how does this make any sense?
I think Undertaker knew that the only guy in the locker room right now that can take all the heat for ending the streak and don't give a shit had to be Brock Lesnar.
I never understood this philosophy many fans upheld for many years about a young guy going over the streak as a way of using the mantel almost like an investment - had WWE's flippant attitude towards their World Titles over the past 10 years not told these people anything? Honours DON'T make stars, effective promotion and charisma of the wrestlers themselves are the only things that do. In this particular era of WWF/E, if the streak was going to be broken it HAD to be done by a fully established talent, because the irritating truth is that's all that matters to the company these days. Brock going over the streak in no way devalues what it represented, had circumstances panned out differently he'd have been the face of the company for many years. Whether the man was worthy of the rub is up for debate, but the on-screen character certainly was. The only other two individuals I can think of deserving of that victory were Cena and Kane (the latter purely for creative purposes). I do agree with you about the lack of build being unforgiveable - however strong his opponent is made to look going in Taker will always be the favourite at the start of a WM match (the shock factor would've remained regardless), it was in everyone's interests to make Brock look a million bucks during that build. Why he was made to look weak I'm still trying to fully understand.
Taker was the old man handing down his watch or gun to his son or grandson.. He intrusted Lesnar to maintain that level and make that ring (at WM) his yard now..
If the Undertaker had lost in the early days to Jake the Snake or Diesel or Kane it would had been Ok at the Time. If he had lost to Orton, Batista or Edge it would have elevated their Careers surely. If he had lost to Shawn at WM 25 or to Triple H at XXVIII with the End of an Era, they would have gotten real Heat (which they are used to) but i think the Wrestling Fans could accepted it. But with this Match to End it, it will leave a bad feeling thinking on his whole Career.
Same here. I feel like how your display picture for your profile looks. Schlegdaddy is saying the decision is stupid PURELY out of emotion. He hasn't taken a step back and look at things with his head yet, just his heart.
I agree with what you said at the end of the video though, I feel now that all of this, all 22 years was for nothing, which is a real shame, a crying shame.
Here is my theory on what happened. Undertakers body was in pain and he did not want to do this anymore. So he decided sometime between Raw and WM that he wanted to end the streak. WWE could not say no as it was his decision. Best thing about this is watching everyone's reaction. I am so chilled about this, its amusing to watch everyone else react.
It sure made people forget that Cena beat the Wyatts... and it sure killed Bryan's win for a lot of the crowd, and me. It could have been one of the greatest Wrestlemania's ever. It started so well. Shame Taker lost this way. Brock won't be around much. It's a 'moment' but it's a waste.
The way i see it, ending the streak is like a Super Hero movie, were in the end, the Super Hero does not over come the villain, fact is in Spider-man, no matter how badly beaten he looks, no matter how down and out he is, in the end he finds a way to pull through and that's what Undertaker and The Streak represented. It was just a stupid decision, on Undertakers part, Vinces part who ever was involved. It should never of ended and certainly not to Brock Lesnar.
Brock was the most legit guy to end the streak in the business today. There isn't no shame in loosing to him, Taker picked the write guy to end the streak, and if that is Taker final match I thank him for all the years he has given to the business and us fans.
OTRSCentral Come on dude, in a real fight between Lesner, HHH and Cena there is only one winner in that contest, he still beat HHH twice, and beat Cena in his first run in WWE, he is a former UFC champion, and a great pro wrestler, that seems a pretty legit guy there. It would have been nice to see him retire with the streak intact, or drop it to the write young guy, but it was his wishes, and as fans of Undertaker we should be happy that he got to end the streak to the guy he wanted to.
I'm glad the streak is over because it was kind of overrated. Undertaker is greater than the streak. UNDERTAKER IS THE BEST CHARACTER WWE HAS EVER MADE
What makes me really sad is it ended in such a flat way that the specialness of the streak almost instantly vanished to me. It's 21-1 now. It's like when the Patriots lost to the Giants.
I have so many mix emotions about this, but angry isn't one them, however i am sick of hearing the younger fans saying lets start a new tradition just like it's nothing, because longtime fans such as myself and others grew up watching the streak, but at least we got a omg moment which has been lacking in this era, but i am still in shock that the streak is over.
The Undertaker's streak ending was not so bad. I wasn't expecting for Brock to win either but the WWE and Taker did the right thing. First of all Taker was done and as long as the streak continued he would have to comeback. Second, Allowing Lesnar, the biggest bad ass in the WWE, to break the streak gives them a new guy to highlight in that featured "unbeatable" position at Mania. Last but not least all the best streaks are broken when you least expect them even though the possibility is there; consider Tyson taking a trip to Japan for a title bout as an undefeated unbeatable champion and returning knocked out after eating a two piece with a biscuit combo. Plus WrestleMania XXX was a turning point and meeting of the past, present, and future and one of the greatest and most memorable Mania's of all time.
the taking a crap in the middle of the ring analogy kind of reminds me of when brian pillman was about to "Yank out his Johnson and piss in this HELLHOLE!!!" in ECW lol
Schleggedaddy you talked about it in the pre WM show about how this "honor" could become a curse to the younger guys. How many people in the 18-39 year old demographic (still WWE's largest fan base regardless of what Kevin Dunn or any of the other WWE numb nuts might say) revolt against say a Bray Wyatt or Roman Reigns for taking away a piece of our childhood (I say that as a 31 year old). Brock is already a legit star from his MMA to his WWE days. Even if he isn't active and gives up wrestling in a year you still have Paul Heyman walking around to beat his chest about being the guy who designed the destruction of the streak. Could the build up have been better? Yes. But regardless of who you have break it you still would have had that stunned silence after the 3 count. I guarantee you it wouldn't have mattered if you had him lose it to Punk, HBK, HHH, or if he dropped it to Sting or Cena next year. I guarantee you that the next 30 sec-minute would have been dead air because of what it meant to so many people, myself included. I thought it added to not took away from it. DB, Orton, and Batista did an EXCELLENT job getting that crowd back into it. I thought they did everything they could and all 3 guys left everything they had out there in N'Orleans and was a damn good main event itself. Now if the rumors are true with Sting at 31 (still to be determined) the streak won't overshadow the story that could be told by these two old dogs coming together for a true once in a lifetime match (not that Cena/Rock bs). You get rid of the streak and then you can concentrate on what each of the great men have meant to our generation of sports wrestling fans and for one night/ one story we can pay our respects to both men for all the blood sweat and tears they have left in that ring to entertain us. That is IF Taker can go one more time.
Taker wanted Lesnar to break the streak since 2010. Yes the match sucked. Yes the ending was bad but Undertaker also had a concussion that is why they ended it that way. Also now you have a monster heel for Bryan to beat.
It's not Brock's fault, I blame WWE booking, and i'll explain why. If indeed it was Taker's hand picked decision to have his streak retired by Brock, then it was WWE's creative job to make it feel like something special. Instead, what we got was 3 weeks of shit build up, two of which involved Taker kicking Brock's ass without breaking a sweat. How were we supposed to feel like this was anything special when we couldn't even perceive Brock as a viable threat? good build ups lead to memorable culminations, and we didn't get that! Taker's streak ending isn't the issue, it's how it was booked what comes into question. I don't blame Brock the least bit. The only bright spot in the midst of this Fiasco was Paul Heyman. God bless the man, he can read a few pages from a yellow book and i can sit down on a chair and listen for hours on end!
OTRSCentral McMahon chose the idea that it's better to lose on your way out. One person close to situation said Vince talked Taker into losing. Another person, who would also be in the know, described it as Vince making the call and Taker agreeing, and that he wasn't talked into doing something he didn't want to do. Losing wasn't Taker's original decision but he was in on it and never protested the decision.
vs HHH 2, Taker wrestled "weak". vs HHH 3, Taker wrestled "strong". vs Lesnar, Taker wrestled "old". I'm convinced that he told the story that HE WANTED to tell. As for someone getting a rub off of this, that would require a build of such awesomeness involving a face with the popularity of a Daniel Bryan, imo. Any other way would most likely end in the talent getting irrecoverable heat with the fans. That being said, why not have Lesnar be the one? He's got heat for days. Piling this on doesn't hurt him. It actually elevates him as a heel. Maybe he will be the new WM attraction, following in Taker's part-time schedule. I agree that, if this had to be done, it could have been done better. I would have chosen another show than the one built for Daniel Bryan. But by killing The Streak, it left no doubt that Undertaker is done.
Now that we have some hindsight about a decade later, Brock and Roman both have become crucial pieces to what WWE has become now. This put the eyes on Brock as more than just the beast. He became a damn nightmare.
People are complaining about Brock being part time but Undertaker is part time himself and are still butthurt about him leaving 10 years ago to try to accomplish other things because he didn't like travelling (that's why he continued to wrestle in Japan) but even if a young guy like Bray Wyatt or Roman Reigns broke it how are we sure that they would stick around and if Punk was given the streak it wouldn't of done anything since he would of still left. The streak had to end and Brock was the only believable guy left as he is a former UFC champion (a sport which is real fighting) and The Undertaker was old and fragile at 49 years old and it wouldn't be realistic if a 37 year old former UFC champion couldn't defeat a 49 year old Undertaker who is a shell of his former self.
The build up was poor to add to the shock value of Lesnar winning. So many were saying how weak he looked in the weeks leading up to WM, so actually, given the result, the build up was perfect to what they were trying to achieve? The match itself wasn't great, but it's the first time I've watched a Taker match and thought he was really starting to show his age. Also, the crowd were assuming this was just going to be another Taker win, partly due to the build up, so never really invested in the match. Personally I don't have a problem with the booking, the Undertaker had earned the right to have the final say with who broke the streak and I'm not going to question the guy after all he has given us. It deflated the crowd temporarily, but overall I think this was easily one of the better Wrestlemanias.
I think it's funny that someone like Schlegel throws WWE's "bullshit" logic out the window starts at 6:03 making a point that WWE would justify Lesnar's record at WM is 1-2 when WWE never acknowledges any history whatsoever. WWE never acknowledged Lesnar had already beaten Taker in HIC and Taker that had faced HHH at WM17 last year at WM29. Everything match and feud that happens to WWE is new even if it isn't. Lesnar was put over because he was legitimate as anyone and who else? Taker is 49. Taker did the old school thing and put over Lesnar just as JBL let Mysterio put him out at WM25 and Flair put out by HBK at 24. Lesnar will take this as a top heel and draw to hopefully challenge big draws of the future to put over. Isn't that what you want in the end Schleg? Someone who is able to "pass the torch" to the younger wrestlers by conquering the unfathomable? I love Taker and I love him anymore for letting it go. It doesn't hurt his legacy. NO SPORT IMMORTAL held on to a streak. Even the Dolphins lost the next year. But you will never forget and THAT IS what is special...memories are undefeated!!!!
This was a bungle on par with the finish to Wrestlemania X-7. It actually may eclipse it, in terms of long-term detrimental impact.
Honestly, the only person to blame here is 'Taker. It's not his first mistake politically. The way he completely and unprofessionally buried DDP (and more importantly, Kanyon, who could have been a full-on star) during the Invasion springs immediately to mind. But this was a mistake. A massive one. The story was unworthy of it. The build-up was unworthy. The man he dropped it to was unworthy. The reaction from the crowd was the exact opposite of what WWE intended. That tepid reaction really said it all.
I was in attendance when Shawn Michaels retired at Wrestlemania right here in my hometown. THAT was a Wrestlemania moment worthy of a legend's retirement. That Undertaker did the honors was completely appropriate. Their feuds throughout both men's careers were legendary.
Kane was the only right man for the job, in my opinion. From a storyline standpoint, from a physical standpoint (he'll be around another couple years, at least). Yet because of a ludicrous 'Korporate Kane' angle that is going exactly nowhere... we were robbed of a moment that would have simultaneously lent closure to the Undertaker's story arc with his 'brother', legitimized Kane's career in a way that has eluded him throughout his tenure, and sent the fans home secure in the knowledge that the streak had ended in a way that made actual sense.
Thank you so much for this video. You nailed all the points.
This match was painful to watch and even more painful to digest. It wasn't even shocking, it was anticlimactic, plain and simple.
WM25 was the last time Taker looked strong. Since then, I've kind of felt sorry for him because he looked frail. Retiring at 20-0 would have been better to me. Still, it's his body and his decision. After the cheers stop, he is the one who has to live with the pain.
"It's what's best for business..."
Mark wanted to give it to Punk at 29 but Vince said no.
I'd rather Punk then Lesnar BUT id rather Leanar then Cena.
I've been told Mark already decided to give it to Lesnar like 3 years prior to WM30... bah, who knows anymore? All I know is it wouldnt've happened without Mark's approval.
Why? Cena is far better than Lesnar.
Source? Taker is a big MMA mark and wanted to put over Lesnar since 2010.
***** That what you said is the Central point for me. It would have been way better for the WWE if Cena had done it, the People should hate the decision that would be the right Heat to create. But not with a Guy who is for the most people a UFC and not a WWE guy, i can not belive the WWE had allowed this, terrible for the Business, Takers wish or not.
*****
I respect your Opinion, but Cena is getting booed nearly 10 Years. But the time was not right for me, Taker should have stopped at WM XXVIII. Brock is not the right guy for me, because as i said the most people worldwide consider him as a UFC guy now. And he does not want to be in the business full time, therefore i think it was bad for the business, he does not get the right heat, imagine how much hate Cena,HHH or an HBK get/gotten. LOL
Undertaker knew the clock was ticking on his career and him coming back for Mania was taking a real number on his body as is made apparent. It kinda seems like Taker was that girl who was so desperate for a date she would've said yes to anyone who accepted. He wanted HBK or HHH to break and they said no. It's a blessing Punk didn't break it since he ended up leaving anyway. Lesnar is a believable choice and the moment that it ended up giving you was brilliant but I do agree the match should've been a whole hell of a lot better. I feel as though the only reason the build wasn't better and the match sucked was to make us want the match to be over with due to the finish being "so obvious" and then bam the ref's hand goes down for three and we're all left flabbergasted.
Brock was the only legitimate threat to the Streak besides Cena
fuck cena
I say fuck Cena to but it is the honest to god truth
matt11708 Lol Stop. Cena is God.
Yeah if I was 5
When I saw Taker lose, all I thought was "Schlegdaddy will be one pissed off SOB" lmao
Ik me too
how will you ever forget Daniel Bryan side shuffling down the ramp raising his one arm to orchestrate the "YES" chants to face Orton and Batista?!?!?
Also I keep hearing more fans say how bad the match was. And they're right it was, but that is because Taker could not go. He's toast. He no longer is capable of having big time matches without getting injured.
been waiting all day for this
What would of been best was what Jim Ross said, have the World Champion John Cena face the Undertaker for the title at Wrestlemania 31 and have the Undertaker win, then the next night have the new champ The Undertaker come out and says "Thanks" towards Cena for a last match and finally retire, in which everyone wins.
austin said it best on his podcast. (he was also adamant about not breaking the streak) "everyone's career ends with you looking up at the lights."
This is hands down the worst booking decision in the history of this company. I just don't understand how they can throw WrestleMania and their #1 attraction under the bus for some part time piece of shit like Lesnar who has disrespected the business more than anybody has. I really find this hard to believe that Taker signed off on this and if he did then shame on him too for tarnishing something so great and iconic. I'll always love Taker but this booking decision was a pile of shit and now I hope that next year's WrestleMania does the worst buyrate in history just to show them their stupidity. That company now has proven they deserve to go to hell in a handbasket because it is run by a bunch of dipshits that know nothing about wrestling
Taker chose lesnar to beat him WWE didn't tell taker he had to lose to brock apparently taker always wanted the streak to end and he picked lesnar because in his mind he's the most believable person to do it...it wouldn't be fair for taker to keep wrestling when his body can't take it no more. Taker wanted brock to win and retire In peace we all may not agree with it but that's the way taker wanted to go out
Why are we blaming WWE booking if Taker chose Brock to end the streak.
Because if this was gong to be the match that ended the streak, they could have done a hell of a lot better building up a feud that culminated into a great match and a memorable send-off for a legend. None of that happened. The match felt unimportant and since it was potentially Taker's last match, it shouldn't have. I feel like the Brock wouldn't be getting as much heat if the match and feud were actually worthwhile. It was just a terrible way to end it.
Are people forgetting that it's Vince Kennedy McMahon is the ONLY who gives the green light to something like this?? Vince coulda veto'd this shit but nooooooooo.....
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In all honesty the streak should have ended with Bray Wyatt putting the nail in the coffin, probably the last match for Taker & the first for Bray Wyatt especially when he was so over.
Undertaker picked Lesnar because he's a fan of MMA and figured why not lose the most badass guy on the roster. He's a former UFC heavyweight champion for fucks sake. Who other guy in wrestling can do that? If you respect Taker then you should respect his opinion. And if he gave it to any of the younger guys then it could risk going to waste cause who knows if they will over in the future. And that's WWE's fault for holding the younger talent down for all these years.
But it's allready going to waste with LESNER lol ... I know what u mean with him being UFC heavyweight champ and all but he pretty much slapped cena , orton , punk and any other guy that's stayed with the company and didn't leave like Brock did
***** LOL at you comparing Mayweather to Brock
Not just UFC. It's because he's a legit monster and Taker is crippled and old
Yeah losing to top stars makes him a jobber. (sarcastic tone)
That only makes Brock more respectable. A guy that in real life can kick anyone's ass on the roster would actually lose clean and sell to other wrestlers because he understands the business. Something that these egotistical guys like Cena are so afraid of doing.
Most fans were gonna get shocked/pissed no matter who ended the streak, breh.
i disagree. 1: Since Lesnar returned and and lost to Cena he "put over" wrestling over UFC, so him winning doesnt really invalidate Taker's earlier opponents. 2: Taker's loss to Lesnar puts TOXIC heat on Lesnar and at the same time raises his profile. Remember when Lesnar's music would his when a Punk/Cena/3MB were in the ring and you knew some shit was going down? Well now it means much much more since its the guy that beat the unnbeaten. 3: Since he is a part timer, why not have him beat a fellow part timer?
OMG a 300+ pound MMA fighter in his mid-30's defeated a 50 year old fellow part-timer who's had multiple hip,knee,and shoulder surgeries in the last decade
That is sooooooo unrealistic! :)
We know its scripted. Its like watching Bruce Lee fight George St. Pierre. Yeah you gotta imagine GSP (5'11" 170lbs) is a better fighter but Bruce lee (5'7" 128 lbs) is a legend. In the octagon Id give it to GSP but in a movie Bruce Lee should be able to take on the entire UFC roster at once.
Undertaker is the Bruce lee of wrestling, few men short of Hogan should stand a chance against him. Its not about size and strength, its about respect for the ones who paved the way for you.
At the end of the day,it was Takers Call. It wasn't Vinces or Hunters. It was Takers. So don't blame Vince or the WWE for this clusterfuck if your mad you have to blame Taker. I think the Streak needed to end but a young guy like Roman Reigns or Bray Wyatt should of done it. Cause ending the iconic streak immediately cements your name in History. Brock had nothing to gain from this because hes already accomplished a lot. But a Reigns or Wyatt had everything to gain.
Brock has not done nothing memorable. His track list is not impressive wat so ever
Toon Griffey Yeah Brock ending the streak is like when he was in the right place in the right time to beat an old, beat up Randy Coture for the Heavyweight title in UFC. He is a completely over rated neanderthal.
If you're a real star you don't need to beat a "scripted" streak to cement your name in history.
Yeah Brock hasn't done anything because winning King of the Ring and then winning the Undisputed Championship by beating a star like the rock within your first 4 months at the company is nothing. Or what about winning the Royal Rumble on your first appearance or how bouts main eventing your first ever Wrestlemania and you win the WWE title. Or what about how Brock originally was only in the company for 2 years and became a huge star!!! Or what about winning the UFC Heavyweight Championship on your 4th MMA fight. Yeah Couture was old but he wasn't a pushover. I don't like Brock breaking the streak but to say he's done nothing is dumb as hell.
Jakkey Brahh he has done nothing impressive. Ufc/mma doesn't count in WWE. Compare a Brock lesnar track list to a John Cena, Rey Mysterio, Chris Jericho, HBK, Triple H etc who deserve that type of title n there arsenal. Brock is not worthy a sport to sport jumper. GTFOH!
Your right there was no build up to this match no story nothing ... , never got personal , emotional nothing , I feel a bray wyatt vs taker story would have been amazing
Calling Taker selfish for ending the streak has to be one of the stupdiest things I ever heard.
Misspelling the word stupid while calling something stupid is rather ironic.
Yes because spelling is so important that it refutes my point.
I'm just fucking with you mate.
We were fortunate that Taker's Streak went on as long as it had. If they ended it, especially during the 2000s or prior to Mania 25, you would've seen a full scale riot. Once Taker hit 20 at Mania 28, it was an achievement bigger than the Streak itself. THE RECORD.
Already commented on this video but I have to say, powerful words towards the end, Jeff. Says it all about what went down.
I think that was his choice really but the build was poor and match was terrible but Undertaker wanted Brock Lesnar to end the streak . I think since he was at the one UFC event when Brock lost the UFC Heavyweight Championship to Cain Vasquez and confronted him it started there .
A really good Point from you in this Video Jeff, i have my doubts that Bryan Danielsons Title win really will be remembered that much in the Years and Decades to come thinking of WrestleMania XXX. I still feel the same as the Fans did in the Arena everyone was legit pissed no real Heat for Lesnar and no big Ovation for Taker, just a Big What the ?? Same Feeling like at X-seven, you thought good Show but something really terrible for the Business happened.
I love how some people call him Bryan Danielsons think they are cool.. ahahaa
sneak2attack I don't need to correct you sir, because it looks you are soo cool come out here try to talk trash, but his name is Bryan Danielson. And if you had read carefully it was Bryan Danielsons title win i was talking about. Oohh... I'm way to old try to be cool
this is the way I see it before watching the video
#1 you have now stripped away something special from WM & future WM's
#2 you given the streak a black eye , if taker remained undefeated say 25-0 at least in 30 or 50 years time you can look back and say there was that wrestler called the undertaker who has a streak for 20 years & was never beat , but now he has a lose to me its less special .
#3 what was the point off the streak now that taker has a lose ? what was the point in taker being put over 21 times at WM ?? if he isn't going to be undefeated or make a new star ?
#4 the streak was broke by a 34 past his prime part time wrestler who hasn't gotten a rub out off it , at least give it to someone young who you want to build & sell tickets for the next 10 years they could have waited till it was 24-0 and given it to a new star
***** "you can't trust a new guy to stay long and sell the tickets if you hand him a victory as major as this." That's what I keep telling people when they say "ERMAGERD BRAY GOT BURRIED BAH JOHN CENUR HURR!"
As hot as they get, there's still a thing called "too soon".
***** Exactly. Lets start a new tradition at Wrestlemania.
I had heard that at first, CM Punk would be the guy to end the streak, because it had been said that Taker wanted Punk to do it, so why he chose Brock to do it is beyond me. The streak should never have been broken, but you know the WWE, they're wonderful at not giving us what we want.
All these years later, and it was still a stupid decision.
The streak ending divided a lot of fans. You either like it or you don't.
I notice but I'm on the i don't like it side
My idea was that they should have had Sting at WM 31 have an IRON MAN MATCH that way the streak could have ended but not end. Sting could have scored 1 pin fall and be the first man ever to score a pineal on Taker so technically be the first to beat him but the match end with Taker scoring two pinfalls and all around winning!
i feel 100% with you man. im not old as u at all but i really did care about the streak and now its over. i always wanted a legend to end it if it ever ended. i never wanted it to end tho. sad moment it wasnt right
I have been waiting for this.
Whole new look background and reviewer lol
I like it.
It's funny how in his previous video, Schleggdaddy said that Batista should've won the main event to secure his position as a top top TOP heel, as a full on 100% hated heel is something difficult to create nowadays, yet he hasn't mentioned anything about maybe that's what they've just tried to do with Lesnar? And it kind of worked...
I say congratulations to taker! I think this was the best way to have done it if he were going to do it. Every one who follows taker knows he respects the hell out of real fighting and would of done it himself, if it made the money it dose now, back then. So letting a legitimate fighter like Brock, who has also proved himself in the wwe universe as a impressive athlete, beat him makes sense. But the most important thing is he did something that in this day of age of dirt sheet and lose lips was thought impossible in the wrestling business, he made everyone a mark. Not since Bruno Sammartino losing his belt to Ivan Koloff has there been such a reaction from an audience. Undertaker cemented his career in this moment and showed the world how lucky we were to lay witness to such an incredible performer. There is not a sole you can ever mention, outside of Bruno Sammartino, who can lay claim to such a feat. Forget legend, forget Mr. WrestleMania, Undertaker has become a legitimized wrestling god,after that match, who is second to NO ONE.
Also at some point do a reunion vid, with Canned Heat. Even if it's chopped up/ via 6 different web cams. It would be nice to see you guys back togather for one show.
THIS DISGUESTS ME FOR A MAN LIKE BROCK LESNER THAT DOES NOT EVEN RESPECTS THE BUSINESS I AM SICK TO MY STOMACH OVER THIS!!!!!
Seeing this at 2018...this is still relevant today.Brock is currently Universal champion and he is closing in to cm punks record of his own streak lmao still part time and not putting anyone over due to nonsense booking and they are slapping people still across the face. Mind you had wrestlemania with a too late match with stupid booking of taker vs cena. It didnt matter without the streak..did i mention they gave roman the year before Roman another win over taker...
Taker has given us everything he had for over 20 years, he has busted his ass every time for the sake of our entertainment. He deserved to choose when and where he wanted to lose. As we saw in the match he just couldn't do it anymore. Respect it. It hurts us, true wrestling fans but we have to let it go. We owe him that much.
cm punk cares about mma more than wrestling, undertaker cares more about mma than wrestling...the problem is not only has ufc taken the hearts of many of the wwe's fans, it has taken the hearts of wwe's workers as well.
Nice video of Taker leaving his hotel Monday. Limping and injured. I think Taker feels his time is over.
Coach Orion from D3: The Mighty Ducks said it best "Well, it's time to grow up now!"
I really think Punk would have won at 29 if Paul Bearer didn't pass.
nah, Taker has wanted Lesnar to break it for a few years and whatever Taker wants, he gets, and so he should really. Not that I agree with it being Lesnar btw just to clear that up
I'm super glad the streak is over.
I've always wanted the streak to be over.
But Lesnar was the opposite of the right choice. Completely the wrong direction.
The streak ending was just bad... I am a huge Daniel Bryan mark but I couldn't enjoy his epic moment at the end because I was emotionally drained out when the streak ended...
Marks be like "the streak is over, I'm not watching WWE anymore! Raw after Mania is the highest rated show of the year
The only main reason I still watch wrestlemania was just to see the undertaker compete
Great video and thats exactly how I felt about it, I didn't even bother watching raw and I'm gonna take a break from wwe
Well said, schleg. They ended the streak just for the sake of ending it, if we're going to be completely honest here. I just can't ever get behind that. It was an absolute waste. It's almost too stupid to even try and debate. One of the worse decisions made in WWE history.
why is everyone mad? In my opinion it was the greatest moment in wwe history i loved it also the way every fan's jaw dropped when the ref slammed his hand the 3rd time it was amazing i watched it like 100 times
It was a bullshit moment...
I can imagine this was a hard video for you to do. But onto my point.
When I think about it like this, I was a bit like you when I heard the news of Taker's streak being broken. I was in immediate shock at first. But at the same time, once I felt the shock wore off, I was saddened at this, because I knew from one standpoint that perhaps it was high time to stop being a kid holding onto those childish memories and that it was high time to grow up. I also knew that the Streak was coming to an end at some point in time, but I just didn't know when and where or who was going to be the one guy to end it. At the same time, I also think, "Why this fucker who hadn't been in the company for 10 years?" But ultimately, the decision was made. Doesn't mean we have to like it, but it is what it is and this is something we have to accept at some point in our lives.
Horrible build up, match and payoff. Lesnar will still be the same part time monster heel after this, so nothing was gained from ending the Streak. Best to forget about it like the WCW Invasion.
I had a good feeling that Schlegdaddy would extremely pissed at this.
"Who in the fuck thought this was a good idea!?" ...I imagine Taker, so I'm not going to argue. The way I see it, Lesnar was simply in the right place at the right time to defeat an old and broken down Undertaker. I for one will take the moment as it is and give many thanks to the Undertaker for giving something so special.
Saying that the streak ending ruined the rest of the show is a bit of an over-exaggeration. Sure the crowd was dead for the start of the main event, but by the time HHH came back out they quickly came back to life.
I'll always say it: if Shawn Michaels didn't do it, nobody should have done it.
I share your feelings on everything I still can't believe that The undertaker wanted it to go out this way but Vince McMahon said no one will be bigger than the WWE
glad the streak is over. This was long overdue.
Honestly,I don't see the problem because all people talk about online is how the WWE is so predictable but when they do something out of left field people still get pissed. I thought it was a surprise finish for a bad match. Plus, it's time for the WWE to move past the Undertaker streak storyline at WM and start a new tradition of some sort. Also, I don't think the crowd was to upset because by the end of the night 70,000 was doing the YES CHANT.I hate the Undertaker lost too but lets move forward. HOLLA AT YA BOY,PEACE!!!
Van The Villian tgen you dont respect his legacy and it s shows your selfesgness and your hypocricy as a fan
You and Bruce Blitz NEED to go head to head on this.
Couldn't agree more. I couldn't wait to share my comments on this so I let it all out on your "Will the WWE do what's right" review early today.
I'm too upset to type it all again but if you have the time please read my comment. Again I was too impatient and posted it under your last review. Ha
- Brotha RoN-
My initial reaction was... "what the hell?" Surprisingly I have taken the streak ending pretty well though. I thought I would be a lot angrier but I have kind of accepted it. I really hope they use this heat and have Brock put over someone like Bryan.
it's hard not to believe this culminated from Undertaker at UFC after Brock / Cain fight but aside from that Iagree with Shlegg there was bad build up for something this big
I have not heard one guy defend the booking decision. I've heard rumors that Taker got injured during the match and called the end in the ring, but that's purely speculation.
If you listen real close when Lesnar hits that last F-5 you can hear Taker say count to 3 to the ref.
I have no idea but I heard him say it. I have heard a few different things about the outcome of the match so Idk at this point.
huzlers.com/undertaker-losing- wrestlemania-30-mistake-says-wwe-owner-vince-mcmahon-brock-lesnar-changed-script-will-fired/ Read that.
There are no clips that I know of. I have heard that Taker was to injured and called the finish on the fly because he couldn't continue anymore. I've also heard that Lesnar was suppose to win along so I have no idea. You can believe what you want. I was just saying what I thought I heard and that was Undertaker say count to 3.
James Forcum fake siite not real
I love the logic people are using to defend Lesnar winning. "Brock is a legit badass UFC Fighter so in a real fight he would beat Taker." So in a real life, Bryan shouldn't be champion because no way could he beat HHH, Batista, and Orton all in 1 night. Also Lesnar is a badass.......WHO ALREADY LOST TO 2 WRESTLERS........so once again how does this make any sense?
Oh Testify Brother!!!
You calling the WWE selfish over this is incredibly ironic.
I think Undertaker knew that the only guy in the locker room right now that can take all the heat for ending the streak and don't give a shit had to be Brock Lesnar.
Besides how it ended, the only other flaws about the streak are the fact that Taker won once by DQ and he missed WM in 2000
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I never understood this philosophy many fans upheld for many years about a young guy going over the streak as a way of using the mantel almost like an investment - had WWE's flippant attitude towards their World Titles over the past 10 years not told these people anything? Honours DON'T make stars, effective promotion and charisma of the wrestlers themselves are the only things that do. In this particular era of WWF/E, if the streak was going to be broken it HAD to be done by a fully established talent, because the irritating truth is that's all that matters to the company these days.
Brock going over the streak in no way devalues what it represented, had circumstances panned out differently he'd have been the face of the company for many years. Whether the man was worthy of the rub is up for debate, but the on-screen character certainly was. The only other two individuals I can think of deserving of that victory were Cena and Kane (the latter purely for creative purposes).
I do agree with you about the lack of build being unforgiveable - however strong his opponent is made to look going in Taker will always be the favourite at the start of a WM match (the shock factor would've remained regardless), it was in everyone's interests to make Brock look a million bucks during that build. Why he was made to look weak I'm still trying to fully understand.
I can't stop thinking about, and I wanna, very down about it all :(. Good video S'daddy tho
Taker was the old man handing down his watch or gun to his son or grandson.. He intrusted Lesnar to maintain that level and make that ring (at WM) his yard now..
If the Undertaker had lost in the early days to Jake the Snake or Diesel or Kane it would had been Ok at the Time. If he had lost to Orton, Batista or Edge it would have elevated their Careers surely. If he had lost to Shawn at WM 25 or to Triple H at XXVIII with the End of an Era, they would have gotten real Heat (which they are used to) but i think the Wrestling Fans could accepted it. But with this Match to End it, it will leave a bad feeling thinking on his whole Career.
Damn, the first time I totally disagree with the Schlegdaddy
Same here. I feel like how your display picture for your profile looks. Schlegdaddy is saying the decision is stupid PURELY out of emotion. He hasn't taken a step back and look at things with his head yet, just his heart.
It looks stupid to me looking at it with my head.
I agree with what you said at the end of the video though, I feel now that all of this, all 22 years was for nothing, which is a real shame, a crying shame.
Here is my theory on what happened. Undertakers body was in pain and he did not want to do this anymore. So he decided sometime between Raw and WM that he wanted to end the streak. WWE could not say no as it was his decision.
Best thing about this is watching everyone's reaction. I am so chilled about this, its amusing to watch everyone else react.
It sure made people forget that Cena beat the Wyatts... and it sure killed Bryan's win for a lot of the crowd, and me. It could have been one of the greatest Wrestlemania's ever. It started so well. Shame Taker lost this way. Brock won't be around much. It's a 'moment' but it's a waste.
When will the review be put up?
The way i see it, ending the streak is like a Super Hero movie, were in the end, the Super Hero does not over come the villain,
fact is in Spider-man, no matter how badly beaten he looks, no matter how down and out he is, in the end he finds a way to pull through and that's what Undertaker and The Streak represented.
It was just a stupid decision, on Undertakers part, Vinces part who ever was involved. It should never of ended and certainly not to Brock Lesnar.
Brock was the most legit guy to end the streak in the business today. There isn't no shame in loosing to him, Taker picked the write guy to end the streak, and if that is Taker final match I thank him for all the years he has given to the business and us fans.
So legit that he had a career losing record at WrestleMania and lost to both Cena and HHH in the span of a year right?
OTRSCentral Come on dude, in a real fight between Lesner, HHH and Cena there is only one winner in that contest, he still beat HHH twice, and beat Cena in his first run in WWE, he is a former UFC champion, and a great pro wrestler, that seems a pretty legit guy there. It would have been nice to see him retire with the streak intact, or drop it to the write young guy, but it was his wishes, and as fans of Undertaker we should be happy that he got to end the streak to the guy he wanted to.
This is the last wwe show I will ever watch. Thank you Schlegdaddy you are one of my favorite youtubers. Its such a shame.
I'm glad the streak is over because it was kind of overrated. Undertaker is greater than the streak. UNDERTAKER IS THE BEST CHARACTER WWE HAS EVER MADE
What makes me really sad is it ended in such a flat way that the specialness of the streak almost instantly vanished to me. It's 21-1 now. It's like when the Patriots lost to the Giants.
I have so many mix emotions about this, but angry isn't one them, however i am sick of hearing the younger fans saying lets start a new tradition just like it's nothing, because longtime fans such as myself and others grew up watching the streak, but at least we got a omg moment which has been lacking in this era, but i am still in shock that the streak is over.
The Undertaker's streak ending was not so bad. I wasn't expecting for Brock to win either but the WWE and Taker did the right thing. First of all Taker was done and as long as the streak continued he would have to comeback. Second, Allowing Lesnar, the biggest bad ass in the WWE, to break the streak gives them a new guy to highlight in that featured "unbeatable" position at Mania. Last but not least all the best streaks are broken when you least expect them even though the possibility is there; consider Tyson taking a trip to Japan for a title bout as an undefeated unbeatable champion and returning knocked out after eating a two piece with a biscuit combo. Plus WrestleMania XXX was a turning point and meeting of the past, present, and future and one of the greatest and most memorable Mania's of all time.
The reactions after the match were priceless.
the taking a crap in the middle of the ring analogy kind of reminds me of when brian pillman was about to "Yank out his Johnson and piss in this HELLHOLE!!!" in ECW lol
Now it turned out that it was Vince McMahon idea not The undertaker
Schleggedaddy you talked about it in the pre WM show about how this "honor" could become a curse to the younger guys. How many people in the 18-39 year old demographic (still WWE's largest fan base regardless of what Kevin Dunn or any of the other WWE numb nuts might say) revolt against say a Bray Wyatt or Roman Reigns for taking away a piece of our childhood (I say that as a 31 year old). Brock is already a legit star from his MMA to his WWE days. Even if he isn't active and gives up wrestling in a year you still have Paul Heyman walking around to beat his chest about being the guy who designed the destruction of the streak.
Could the build up have been better? Yes. But regardless of who you have break it you still would have had that stunned silence after the 3 count. I guarantee you it wouldn't have mattered if you had him lose it to Punk, HBK, HHH, or if he dropped it to Sting or Cena next year. I guarantee you that the next 30 sec-minute would have been dead air because of what it meant to so many people, myself included. I thought it added to not took away from it.
DB, Orton, and Batista did an EXCELLENT job getting that crowd back into it. I thought they did everything they could and all 3 guys left everything they had out there in N'Orleans and was a damn good main event itself.
Now if the rumors are true with Sting at 31 (still to be determined) the streak won't overshadow the story that could be told by these two old dogs coming together for a true once in a lifetime match (not that Cena/Rock bs). You get rid of the streak and then you can concentrate on what each of the great men have meant to our generation of sports wrestling fans and for one night/ one story we can pay our respects to both men for all the blood sweat and tears they have left in that ring to entertain us. That is IF Taker can go one more time.
Taker wanted Lesnar to break the streak since 2010. Yes the match sucked. Yes the ending was bad but Undertaker also had a concussion that is why they ended it that way.
Also now you have a monster heel for Bryan to beat.
It's not Brock's fault, I blame WWE booking, and i'll explain why. If indeed it was Taker's hand picked decision to have his streak retired by Brock, then it was WWE's creative job to make it feel like something special. Instead, what we got was 3 weeks of shit build up, two of which involved Taker kicking Brock's ass without breaking a sweat. How were we supposed to feel like this was anything special when we couldn't even perceive Brock as a viable threat? good build ups lead to memorable culminations, and we didn't get that! Taker's streak ending isn't the issue, it's how it was booked what comes into question. I don't blame Brock the least bit. The only bright spot in the midst of this Fiasco was Paul Heyman. God bless the man, he can read a few pages from a yellow book and i can sit down on a chair and listen for hours on end!
OTRSCentral McMahon chose the idea that it's better to lose on your way out. One person close to situation said Vince talked Taker into losing. Another person, who would also be in the know, described it as Vince making the call and Taker agreeing, and that he wasn't talked into doing something he didn't want to do. Losing wasn't Taker's original decision but he was in on it and never protested the decision.
The streak felt like the greatest and longest promo ever for a bad match.
vs HHH 2, Taker wrestled "weak". vs HHH 3, Taker wrestled "strong". vs Lesnar, Taker wrestled "old". I'm convinced that he told the story that HE WANTED to tell.
As for someone getting a rub off of this, that would require a build of such awesomeness involving a face with the popularity of a Daniel Bryan, imo. Any other way would most likely end in the talent getting irrecoverable heat with the fans.
That being said, why not have Lesnar be the one? He's got heat for days. Piling this on doesn't hurt him. It actually elevates him as a heel. Maybe he will be the new WM attraction, following in Taker's part-time schedule.
I agree that, if this had to be done, it could have been done better. I would have chosen another show than the one built for Daniel Bryan. But by killing The Streak, it left no doubt that Undertaker is done.
Now that we have some hindsight about a decade later, Brock and Roman both have become crucial pieces to what WWE has become now. This put the eyes on Brock as more than just the beast. He became a damn nightmare.
If The Undertaker wanted to end the streak he should have went over Lesnar and after the match declared his retirement.
People are complaining about Brock being part time but Undertaker is part time himself and are still butthurt about him leaving 10 years ago to try to accomplish other things because he didn't like travelling (that's why he continued to wrestle in Japan) but even if a young guy like Bray Wyatt or Roman Reigns broke it how are we sure that they would stick around and if Punk was given the streak it wouldn't of done anything since he would of still left. The streak had to end and Brock was the only believable guy left as he is a former UFC champion (a sport which is real fighting) and The Undertaker was old and fragile at 49 years old and it wouldn't be realistic if a 37 year old former UFC champion couldn't defeat a 49 year old Undertaker who is a shell of his former self.
The build up was poor to add to the shock value of Lesnar winning. So many were saying how weak he looked in the weeks leading up to WM, so actually, given the result, the build up was perfect to what they were trying to achieve?
The match itself wasn't great, but it's the first time I've watched a Taker match and thought he was really starting to show his age. Also, the crowd were assuming this was just going to be another Taker win, partly due to the build up, so never really invested in the match.
Personally I don't have a problem with the booking, the Undertaker had earned the right to have the final say with who broke the streak and I'm not going to question the guy after all he has given us. It deflated the crowd temporarily, but overall I think this was easily one of the better Wrestlemanias.
I think it's funny that someone like Schlegel throws WWE's "bullshit" logic out the window starts at 6:03 making a point that WWE would justify Lesnar's record at WM is 1-2 when WWE never acknowledges any history whatsoever. WWE never acknowledged Lesnar had already beaten Taker in HIC and Taker that had faced HHH at WM17 last year at WM29. Everything match and feud that happens to WWE is new even if it isn't. Lesnar was put over because he was legitimate as anyone and who else? Taker is 49. Taker did the old school thing and put over Lesnar just as JBL let Mysterio put him out at WM25 and Flair put out by HBK at 24. Lesnar will take this as a top heel and draw to hopefully challenge big draws of the future to put over. Isn't that what you want in the end Schleg? Someone who is able to "pass the torch" to the younger wrestlers by conquering the unfathomable? I love Taker and I love him anymore for letting it go. It doesn't hurt his legacy. NO SPORT IMMORTAL held on to a streak. Even the Dolphins lost the next year. But you will never forget and THAT IS what is special...memories are undefeated!!!!
If the streak had ended in WM 25 against HBK, I feel it would have gone over so much better.