Boy, how equipment has changed from when I first started land leveling in Nor Cal in the early 70s. We had a fleet of DW20s pushed by a 19A D9. No GPS or laser. Fields staked on 75 or 100 foot grid, everything by eye. Nothing had a cab. No laser scraper to finish behind you. DW20s were cable scrapers so changing cable was very routine. These young whippersnappers don't know how good they have it today! haha!
In another generation we'll be swooping down with drones and grabbing some dirt to relocate. The operator will be in another city in an air condition office complaining how his chair hurts his back after a long day of moving dirt. That generation probably won't know even then how good they got it.
Absolutely love the model...great video too especially the loading frames. I was gonna say I'd give my right arm to operate one but then I'd struggle with only one arm....lol
I drove all manner of plant in the sixties and seventies I found the bigger the machine the easier it was, I operated a International 100 loader for a while and it was hard work plus the lack of any kind of suspension made you feel as if you had just gone 15 rounds with Joe Frazier.
Hi. You are supposed to return to the heavy equipment manufacturer to supply the dock with iron trays from the right. And left. So that it is completely filled. And thank you.
It is intentional, it allows the operator to load the bowl to a fixed heaped load shape and not overload the tires. For less dense material there are different bowl shapes (coal bowl). Similar reason you can't just add additional edges to a wheel loader bucket to fill it more...eventually you reach the design limit of the machine counterweight.
@@kevinmoloney3835 tbh I think they actually could carry alot more than they actually do. They have the power it's just the way they are ran would cause a liability if you had it loaded to the limit. I've seen guys go places and do things on scrapers that could go really bad if you had a bigger and higher weight load.
I was a welder for a Cat dealership and I've fabricated a few sideboards extensions on scraper bowls to increase capacity. Usually twelve inches high. These were older machines. Of course when you do that to a new machine you can forget about any warranty from CAT as far as the bowl and ejector are concerned. I wouldn't recommend it on a machine still covered under warranty. CAT engineers have put the numbers to it and know the capacities of every part on the machine. They designed it so I figure we ought to listen to them on the subject.
So what’s the process of becoming a machinery operator? I work for a cat dealer but honestly I love operating machinery more than working on it. Scrapers especially. But I’m not sure how to become an operator and maybe I’ll end up trying to become one if working for cat doesn’t work out
I have a question why so much spillage off the sides of the bowl . There must be a reason that I’m not seeing the sides being higher . Not sure but there must be a reason for it
When they get into the cut, the rear scraper pushes the front scraper through, when the front scraper is full, he lifts his bowl up and then assists the rear scraper by pulling him through until they get loaded, the rear scraper has a cushioned push block and bale that drops onto the rear of the front scraper and hooks up, 4 engines -2 scrapers = lots of material moved
@@jackschissler255 , not a problem Jack, attached is a link that shows some overhead shots that display this a bit more , you'll see the slack como off the bail and the hook "set" when the front scraper is full and starts to pull the rear scraper through. ua-cam.com/video/Kukt0v7noa8/v-deo.html
@@jackschissler255 , Oh no, it can load itself just fine without a second scraper. This partnering up is done because its far more efficient to run them in tandem like this. Running them like this allows the movement of more material in a given timeframe, these scrapers, 657's move 50+ yards per pass, two of them is 100+ per pass in the same time frame so more equipment in less time equals quicker turns. The designation for the Caterpillar scrapers are found in their numerical designations, 657 = 6- Scraper/5 - Lose Capacity ( Multiplied by 10) / 7 - Twin Engine . You usually wont see the 657's in an area that is already developed a lot , where houses and other existing development are because there are others that may be better suited for the smaller areas, 627 /637 models or other single engine types. The ones that we're seeing here are for where they're engineering full scale housing developments or cutting for main roadways etc.. Hope that helps you a bit, enjoy watching
Efficiency in loading the scraper. Loading requires immense power. Unless the scraper is a self loading scraper like a paddle wheel they use external power to load. This is usually accomplished with a dozer. And so by hooking up together they eliminate a push dozer. These twin engined scrapers are designed for this.
I'm surprised CAT still makes these. Nobody in my area buys pans anymore. Self propelled ones anyway. Everyone uses pans pulled be articulated tractors.
Out in the west coast California,Nevada and Arizona motor type scrapers are king for moving any mass amount of dirt.contractors out here dont run the lil pull pans with the tractor.
Can you imagine what the bills would be on this thing when the d e f messes up you're going to find out what the long-haul truckers are found out this new stuff is just junk absolute junk give me J paydirt he is scrapers any day these new ones will be cut up for Junk long before these older ones of J's
Do you know how much dirt they are still packing in the bowl while spilling an insignificant amount over the sides? For every pound spilled probably 20 times as much is being packed in the bowl It would vary with soil type and moisture of course.
Boy, how equipment has changed from when I first started land leveling in Nor Cal in the early 70s. We had a fleet of DW20s pushed by a 19A D9. No GPS or laser. Fields staked on 75 or 100 foot grid, everything by eye. Nothing had a cab. No laser scraper to finish behind you. DW20s were cable scrapers so changing cable was very routine. These young whippersnappers don't know how good they have it today! haha!
Yeah yeah old schoolers always giving shit to the news schoolers ..time to retire old man , your time is up !
In 1990 I took both of my DW20's an installed 400hp Big Cam Cummings w/jakes in them with truck transmission.
Clocked at 47 mph on asphalt empty
In another generation we'll be swooping down with drones and grabbing some dirt to relocate. The operator will be in another city in an air condition office complaining how his chair hurts his back after a long day of moving dirt. That generation probably won't know even then how good they got it.
It's a little bit different than pulling a 12 yard Le'tourneau with a 14a lol
Its cummins @@parexc07
U know u have good scraper hands when the cut dozer is just chillin there
Hope on
Day in and day out you heavy construction guys are a group of people that have my respect.
Super video. Great camera angles
Absolutely love the model...great video too especially the loading frames. I was gonna say I'd give my right arm to operate one but then I'd struggle with only one arm....lol
Magnifique vidéo ! le drône et la caméra embarquée; le top ! merci, merci.
Love this channel, some the best footage around!
you can tell this is a good operator he keeps the bowl and banana down
Not all the way
You're good with a drone. I usually dislike drone footage. Hats off to you.....
That looks like nice material to work with, sure beats wet chunkie clay
Great video!! Never seen such a high quality movie that explaines so good. Appreciate! Good operators. Should be used for education purposes.
A1, you have takin your videos to a anther level, looking good
Very nice machine. Thanks for sharing
Imagine an old school 657B operator hopping straight into the K model.
Only an old school would have a clue what your talking about dd9 nigga lol yeah
Probably do some cussing
I drove all manner of plant in the sixties and seventies I found the bigger the machine the easier it was, I operated a International 100 loader for a while and it was hard work plus the lack of any kind of suspension made you feel as if you had just gone 15 rounds with Joe Frazier.
Could just be the perspective, but even in pictures they look a hell of a lot smaller than the G or E models.
You know a good crew of pan operators an they really can do some productive shit i used to say im a finish pan operator
657s are the reason dozer operators don't have to be listened to
Me: "Who is gonna watch this stuff for 10 minutes??"
Also me after 10 minutes: "I wonder if there is time lapse footage of this kind of thing??"
Hi. You are supposed to return to the heavy equipment manufacturer to supply the dock with iron trays from the right. And left. So that it is completely filled. And thank you.
Dam sweet...a 657 K.... nice..
Great video. Fantastic drone work.
Love it boys!!!👍
super video,bon job a toute l 'équipe
what they building there I use to operate 657 b models I retired in 2007 boy equipment sure has changed alot
We are building a dam
GREAT JOB. VERY VERY VIDEO
That would be a hell of a lot better than having somebody pissed off on a dozer knocking the hell out of u trying to push u been there done that
The dozer guys think they run the pit, but really their job is to shutup and push. Most don't have scraper experience
Changes 6 oil filters, 12 fuel filters, flushed the drives and axles, fueled and greased 22 627G scrapers today and this video comes up wtfff
It always looks as though the bowl needs hungry boards, awesome bit of gear
Get on one it could self district u
The ride must be so smooth
not really. these machines don't really have a suspension set up. all they have is the air ride seat that just makes you jump up and down all day
when the front one is loading is it getting assisted by the scraper behind pushing?
Yes
brand loyalty.
i saw one of those on a trailer, the vids are awsome, but will never do justice to the size of those beats (*beasts*)
That was entertaining 🤠
They need some greedy boards and get some dirt moved wouldn't be a problem in that dirt.
Stick with the " E " technology is ok when it's working when it's not it's quite often harder to fix longer downtime
Idc what anyone says ALL the E model scrapers are the best.
Why don't they put higher sides on so you can carry more and not lose so much over the sides?
It is intentional, it allows the operator to load the bowl to a fixed heaped load shape and not overload the tires. For less dense material there are different bowl shapes (coal bowl). Similar reason you can't just add additional edges to a wheel loader bucket to fill it more...eventually you reach the design limit of the machine counterweight.
@@kevinmoloney3835 tbh I think they actually could carry alot more than they actually do. They have the power it's just the way they are ran would cause a liability if you had it loaded to the limit. I've seen guys go places and do things on scrapers that could go really bad if you had a bigger and higher weight load.
I was a welder for a Cat dealership and I've fabricated a few sideboards extensions on scraper bowls to increase capacity. Usually twelve inches high. These were older machines. Of course when you do that to a new machine you can forget about any warranty from CAT as far as the bowl and ejector are concerned. I wouldn't recommend it on a machine still covered under warranty. CAT engineers have put the numbers to it and know the capacities of every part on the machine. They designed it so I figure we ought to listen to them on the subject.
@4touchdowns1game29 I've seen way too many guys in 657s go down hill and over speed the front engine
So what’s the process of becoming a machinery operator? I work for a cat dealer but honestly I love operating machinery more than working on it. Scrapers especially. But I’m not sure how to become an operator and maybe I’ll end up trying to become one if working for cat doesn’t work out
Yeah buddy
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Una maquina de produtsion ya la e trabajado 657e buena
If they covered up the sides wouldn't it hold more vs spilling out...
how is such a large fleet maintained and what might that facility/operation entail?
Men at there best good crews
i cant imagine what the 657 costs,,any guesses??
I know a D-11 is 7.2 million with a 18 month delivery wait time. I'll bet a 657 is somewhat close to that.
2.6 million for this new 657K (that's my husband, Allie Russell running it for the first time).
Saludo Mis Hermano tremendo operadores cat waoooooo
What are the main difference in this and previous models
Jonathan probably emission systems and interior and exterior appearance
I have a question why so much spillage off the sides of the bowl . There must be a reason that I’m not seeing the sides being higher . Not sure but there must be a reason for it
If you want a full load you will always get some spillage even if you put on greedy boards it's the same
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Bad ass
im surprised they dont have sideboards on them
Will be under warranty, and that is a field follow unit so Cat will have engineers on site to monitor it. Sideboards will void warranty.
637 head but 657 body cool enough
What are those hub stripes for??
So the foreman can tell at a glance if the tires are turning, meaning the machine is moving or not.
shows if tires are spinning
So they can see if you’re spinning in the cut. Tires are expensive.
Tire spin.
the front looks so tiny compared to the E
Great job man. Is there anyway you can help me with my construction channel
Miss USA good operators push& pulls 637B/D good machine lol now mad days good guys lol
And that's how u move 86 yards of dirt in 36 seconds lol
Excelente
How much do these bad boys cost?
@tom bergman, don’t quote me but this size needs a 9 axel to tow. I think they cost $1.2-1.5 million. The smaller ones are cheaper.
They cost a fortune.
@@leebarnhart831 Now you are an economist.
Like brazil.
Teir 4 run def fluid?
Love the Amber Beacon, how the f#$% is that going to sneak up on you???
Boa este é o meu melhor sonho trabalhar com uma dessa
I got a question. Why do they “connect”
When they get into the cut, the rear scraper pushes the front scraper through, when the front scraper is full, he lifts his bowl up and then assists the rear scraper by pulling him through until they get loaded, the rear scraper has a cushioned push block and bale that drops onto the rear of the front scraper and hooks up, 4 engines -2 scrapers = lots of material moved
JB Scotch thank you. I just did not know the reason why the hooked up
@@jackschissler255 , not a problem Jack, attached is a link that shows some overhead shots that display this a bit more , you'll see the slack como off the bail and the hook "set" when the front scraper is full and starts to pull the rear scraper through.
ua-cam.com/video/Kukt0v7noa8/v-deo.html
JB Scotch that’s so crazy. So even tho it has 2 engines, it cannot do the job unless there is another one hooked up to it?
@@jackschissler255 , Oh no, it can load itself just fine without a second scraper. This partnering up is done because its far more efficient to run them in tandem like this.
Running them like this allows the movement of more material in a given timeframe, these scrapers, 657's move 50+ yards per pass, two of them is 100+ per pass in the same time frame so more equipment in less time equals quicker turns.
The designation for the Caterpillar scrapers are found in their numerical designations, 657 = 6- Scraper/5 - Lose Capacity ( Multiplied by 10) / 7 - Twin Engine . You usually wont see the 657's in an area that is already developed a lot , where houses and other existing development are because there are others that may be better suited for the smaller areas, 627 /637 models or other single engine types.
The ones that we're seeing here are for where they're engineering full scale housing developments or cutting for main roadways etc..
Hope that helps you a bit, enjoy watching
Show de bola
What's the reason for them hooking up together?
Efficiency in loading the scraper. Loading requires immense power. Unless the scraper is a self loading scraper like a paddle wheel they use external power to load. This is usually accomplished with a dozer. And so by hooking up together they eliminate a push dozer. These twin engined scrapers are designed for this.
I'm surprised CAT still makes these. Nobody in my area buys pans anymore. Self propelled ones anyway. Everyone uses pans pulled be articulated tractors.
Theres alot of areas around the globe that still use them en mass
Cheapest dirt you can move, those pull pans with ag tractors are for pretend earthmoving
We call them bowls where I come from! - always a job for a real scraper
Out in the west coast California,Nevada and Arizona motor type scrapers are king for moving any mass amount of dirt.contractors out here dont run the lil pull pans with the tractor.
Jamie McLain If you have to haul any distance this is the way to go. These big boys haul butt
interesting
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What company is this anyone know i want work there
Sukut Construction, Inc.
I'm thinking man that looks like a boring job, back and forth all day. I think it would get old quick.
You ought be sitting there counting every one of them going round and around all day everyday for 8 to 10 hours a day!!!
O equipamento que existe a muitos anos e mesmo assim sempre está sendo ou puchado ou empurrado por outro equipamento. Sendo assim ineficiente.
why is this machine so dam small
John Thompson transport by road.....?
We use to finish one job and drive them to the next one at night.
@@sighpocket5 yes drive them down the highway
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Can you imagine what the bills would be on this thing when the d e f messes up you're going to find out what the long-haul truckers are found out this new stuff is just junk absolute junk give me J paydirt he is scrapers any day these new ones will be cut up for Junk long before these older ones of J's
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Not a difference worth mentioning, you old 'scraper-hand' L O L
Stop overloading, boiling over the sideboards is a no no
Do you know how much dirt they are still packing in the bowl while spilling an insignificant amount over the sides? For every pound spilled probably 20 times as much is being packed in the bowl It would vary with soil type and moisture of course.
@@leebarnhart831 Stick to being a welder.