China's First Ever Guided Missile Destroyer - PLAN Luda-Class Destroyer

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  • @mikeguan5292
    @mikeguan5292 Рік тому +40

    Thank you Mr. Araon. As a navy enthusiast from China Mainland, it is not quite often to see such a thorough and relatively unbiased indroduction of PLAN.
    Here's some knowledge that is widespread among Chinese military fans about Luda(Type 051) : Originally the destroyer is armed with SY-1(上游-1), and it is said to be a parody of P-15 Termite, with a range of just about 80Km(50 miles), and it was until 1980s that the Ludas were upgraded to HY-1(海鹰-1), which is actually an improved version of SY-1.
    The anti-air missle adapted by Luda is actually called HHQ-7(海红旗7), which stands for "naval version of HQ7" in English. It is acutally a naval version of HQ-7(红旗-7), and it is a copy of French Crotale with limited improvements.
    Finally, something about Chinese people's art in naming our weapons.
    The HY-1's name in Chinese is actually read as "Hai Ying 1", and Hai ying (海鹰) means "sea egale" in Chinese.
    The HQ-7 is read as "Hong Qi 7", while the hong qi means Red Flag (红旗) in Chinese.
    Both two words are picked from the poems written by Chairman Mao Zedong, the founding leader of PRC. The tradition that the names or codenames of heavy weapons are picked from the poets of Mao has been inherited since 1960s and has long been cherished and recongnized by both PLA and Chinese people.

    • @JoshuaC923
      @JoshuaC923 Рік тому +3

      Very cool👍🏻

    • @jimb9063
      @jimb9063 Рік тому +1

      Thank you. I find any information on the thinking behind the naming of systems really interesting.

  • @SubBrief
    @SubBrief  Рік тому +12

    This is the first in a year long series of videos documenting Chinese PLAN warships. From Type051 Luda to Type055.

  • @drivenmad7676
    @drivenmad7676 Рік тому +44

    Hey Aaron, would you ever consider covering submarines of the Imperial Japanese Navy? The midget subs they used in WW2 are crazy.

    • @SubBrief
      @SubBrief  Рік тому +48

      That's a bit before my time, but I am not opposed to it. Let me finish modern ships/subs and then I can do a special video on historical subs classes like the one you mention.

    • @drivenmad7676
      @drivenmad7676 Рік тому +5

      @@SubBrief Thanks Aaron. You do a great job.

    • @LHoover
      @LHoover Рік тому

      @drivenmad7676 seek @draftschanl great history very deep. DEEP as Mr. Amick keeps us on watching our own personal 6. Look up the 2 sea stations china has placed off California and the 6 arrayed north of Hawaii. While looking check out all the Sea Farms china is sailing TROUGHOUT the whole pacific.

    • @freedomwagonfilms7233
      @freedomwagonfilms7233 Рік тому +7

      May I suggest Drachinifel? He primarily does pre 1950 ships. He has done several episodes on IJN subs

    • @MrGenesis98
      @MrGenesis98 Рік тому

      @@SubBrief This is a great response, take care of what's in the water today then look back to history for more content options. Great work sir and great information transfer.

  • @Dermisc
    @Dermisc Рік тому +25

    Starting with the 051's, eh? Is this going to be a series? Are we going to get one for each of 052A/B, 052C/D and 055? Frankly, the numbers and letters are easier to remember than the nicknames.

    • @SubBrief
      @SubBrief  Рік тому +32

      I've spent the past year documenting the entire PLAN surface combatants, this is the first video in that series.

    • @miamijules2149
      @miamijules2149 Рік тому +4

      @@SubBriefI hope someone somewhere is paying you for that Jive… cuz god damn bro… that’s a whole lotta lotta work! 😝

  • @bc-guy852
    @bc-guy852 Рік тому +21

    Another fabulous and super-informative episode Aaron.
    And, imagine that... you got it designed, laid down, completed and launched - - in the First Iteration!

  • @dmac7128
    @dmac7128 Рік тому +10

    Put into perspective these ships went into service when Kidd Class destroyers were in service and Spruance Class destroyers were first commissioned. They were retired 15 to 20 years before the last Ludas were retired in 2019-20

    • @mikael5938
      @mikael5938 Рік тому +1

      and now they build type 55 cruisers that kills arleigh burke destroyes in 1:1 supereasy. america devolpment is very slow and the advantage to enter world war 2 when it was already decided is now gone.

  • @justiceglobal1277
    @justiceglobal1277 Рік тому +5

    this is a very professionally made and very informative video, just for some back ground information: the Luda I class was designed and constructed for PLAN in 1970s to provide necessary military escort for chinese fleet operation in South Pacific( to support Chinese ICBM test) , so without the ICBM test we don't know if Luda class will ever exist, and just for record, in early 1980 when china was literally in honeymoon with the west, PLAN and British joined together to upgrade Luda and plan to put sea dart Sam onboard the ship, but due to the sink of ship Sheffield , PLAN cancel the project.

  • @gromittm2372
    @gromittm2372 Рік тому +7

    Lu (Lv to be exact) means Lvshun, a city which was and is an important military port for Chinese Navy all the way back to Qing Dynasty in 1800s. Not “Brigade”.
    Lv is the Chinese letter designated for destroyer class in PLAN.

    • @SubBrief
      @SubBrief  Рік тому +3

      Good context. 'Brigade', I believe is our name for the destroyer.

    • @banerda2334
      @banerda2334 Рік тому +2

      He really made my day by creating the word "Brigade Distroyer". It happens when someone knows zero Chinese and try to figure out the meaning of 旅大

    • @gherkinisgreat
      @gherkinisgreat Рік тому

      @@banerda2334 No it's the western designation for it.

    • @banerda2334
      @banerda2334 Рік тому +2

      @@gherkinisgreat 旅 for 旅顺, and 大 for 大连.

    • @gromittm2372
      @gromittm2372 Рік тому +2

      @@banerda2334 LOL don't be so harsh on the old sonar man, you can find similar errors in old Pentagon and Agency analysis on Soviet military a little while back. Mandarin is not that well studied in the Navy outside Intelligence circle and Chinese Communists are not known for their transparency.

  • @Wannes_
    @Wannes_ Рік тому +5

    The British Sea Cat and Sea Wolf SAM missiles were manually reloaded as well
    And not from a lifting storage locker

    • @grahambuckerfield4640
      @grahambuckerfield4640 Рік тому

      Yes, though they were smaller missiles and only the original Sea Wolf. This Chinese weapon I believe was an unauthorized copy of the French Naval Crotale.
      They also built a version of the French Super Frelon and AS.365 helicopters. As seen on the ones carried by the one Luda that carried them, the sonar's and those Italian guns too.

  • @jamesmihalcik1310
    @jamesmihalcik1310 Рік тому +1

    Always informative explanations and discussion. Perfect.🙂

  • @picardtseng
    @picardtseng Рік тому +4

    Hello! Taiwan just hold the launching ceremony of their first Indigenous Defense Submarine(IDS) Hai Kun (SS-711) on September 28th, 2023, a big deal in this region. Please take a look and make an episode.

  • @stephenkneller6435
    @stephenkneller6435 Рік тому +1

    Outstanding episode! Thank you.

  • @MajSolo
    @MajSolo Рік тому +4

    Aaron is great , usually I upvote and run away since I do not know navy and what could I possibly say. Only I am am in love the the standard missile series and their ability to reach so far up in the sky. At least the navy got that thing right. Positive thinking..... when we all die at least USA will have some people still alive.
    To manage the orchards and the corn fields.

  • @codyhuber
    @codyhuber Рік тому +3

    Have you ever done a video on the collision of the ssbn James Madison with the victor back in the 70’s? If not would you consider it? I hope so!!!

  • @BlackHawkBallistic
    @BlackHawkBallistic Рік тому +1

    Great video as always! I didn't see anyone else mention it in the comment but Guangzhou is pronounced gwong-zhoe like wong with a G at the start and joe but zh instead of the J. Another excellent youtube channel covering china has hosts that used to live there and have taught me how to pronounce a number of cities better than before I watched them.
    Dalian is also dah-leein, that last city though i can't even begin to guess how its pronounced 😂

  • @lebien4554
    @lebien4554 3 місяці тому

    21:30 Slight correction - The AA guns are the Type 76 37mm, not Italian 40mm

  • @Napoleon1815-l8c
    @Napoleon1815-l8c Рік тому

    Excellent analysis. I hope you continue to make more videos like this.

  • @richardbell7678
    @richardbell7678 Рік тому

    A monopulse radar tracking system, in its simplest form, has four horns on the antenna arranged in a square. One for transmitting the pulses. Opposite the transmitting horn is the primary receiving horn. The last two corners are the secondary horns. Each return pulse is received by the main receiver horn and both secondary receiver horns and comparators measure the phase difference between pulse as received by the different horns. One secondary horn gives the horizontal phase difference and the other gives the vertical phase difference. These two phase differences allow the antenna to be kept on the target by pointing the antenna to minimize the phase differences. The name 'monopulse' comes from how a single pulse provides both vertical and horizontal tracking information (as well as the range). Other tracking schemes require multiple pulses (sometimes even multiple antennae) to construct the tracking information. Phased array radars determine the direction of return by comparing phase differences between array elements, so monpulse tracking with a phased array radar is a built in feature; although, with a phased array radar, you are steering the transmitted beam, not the antenna array.

  • @bigsarge2085
    @bigsarge2085 Рік тому +1

    Always informative!

    • @SubBrief
      @SubBrief  Рік тому +2

      Thanks for watching!

  • @raggen5039
    @raggen5039 Рік тому +2

    Love all the videos. I was wondering if you would consider doing a video on Taiwan's newest submarine?

  • @aWILDsomethingCAME
    @aWILDsomethingCAME Рік тому

    just found your channel i really like the info!

  • @GrayGryphon
    @GrayGryphon Рік тому +3

    Hey, I know that style of title is from a different channel. Please tell me this is a colab with Ward Carrol!

    • @SubBrief
      @SubBrief  Рік тому +5

      I hire an artist to do my thumbnails.

  • @ZxZ239
    @ZxZ239 Рік тому

    Its about time you did this, can't wait for you to cover everything, then you can start with their subs

    • @SubBrief
      @SubBrief  Рік тому +2

      to be fair, I did this a year ago. the entire series is available for UA-cam Members or Patreon.com/subbrief. Final video in the series, Type055 Destroyer will be released October 15th, 2023.

  • @EdGee1989
    @EdGee1989 Рік тому +1

    Dalian was a renamed city, originally called Luda. But the most famous name of it was Port Arthur.

  • @willis32
    @willis32 Рік тому +3

    No way we called the chinese ASR "Rice Sheild" 😂

  • @ThomasDrehfal
    @ThomasDrehfal Рік тому

    Great brief Aaron!

  • @Jon.A.Scholt
    @Jon.A.Scholt Рік тому +6

    The Luda class, huh... Did Ludicrous give his permission to China to name a destroyer after him?

    • @rh906
      @rh906 Рік тому

      Nah, the Chinese are just a ludicrous people.

  • @montys420-
    @montys420- Рік тому

    Aaron did you ever go up against these either in Russian or Chinese service? Were they good anti sub platforms?

  • @marko11kram
    @marko11kram 8 місяців тому

    great information, thanks

  • @GSteel-rh9iu
    @GSteel-rh9iu Рік тому

    Great series! Looking forward to the type 055 missile cruiser; also why can't we crank out more Arleigh-Burke's?

  • @JoshuaC923
    @JoshuaC923 Рік тому

    Thanks Aaron, very interesting

  • @benjaminmcclatchey9814
    @benjaminmcclatchey9814 Рік тому +1

    Is there a reason why some Russian corvettes and Chinese corvettes have their hulls painted black on the back half of the hull?

  • @donkoltz1
    @donkoltz1 Рік тому

    Is it standard operating procedure in the Navy to say one thing when the powerpoint slide says something else? happened multiple times during the vid.

  • @user-bl9fj7kf1s
    @user-bl9fj7kf1s Рік тому

    How does this hook and anchor submarine trap work? I haven't seen any photos of it.

  • @big0medium
    @big0medium Рік тому

    Why was the HY-1 given the nato designation CSS-C-2 and not CSS-N-2? As it is a naval version?

  • @johnfitzpatrick3416
    @johnfitzpatrick3416 Рік тому +1

    I’ve never been a fan on Russia’s/USSR’s on deck canister launchers. The only benefit I could see is re loading underway by a helo flying it off & coming back with a loaded replacement tube. You could do one tube at a time.

    • @BrettBaker-uk4te
      @BrettBaker-uk4te Рік тому

      Look at the size of the weapons though. It's literally an early jet fighter.

    • @johnfitzpatrick3416
      @johnfitzpatrick3416 Рік тому

      The twin rotor Navy CH-46 could lift 7000 lbs & the CH-53 36,000 lbs externally. I doubt one of those canisters weighs more plus you could design one specifically for the specs of aircraft used. You could also sling them over during an un-rep.

  • @littlekid924
    @littlekid924 Рік тому

    Luda is NATO naming for PLAN type 051 destroyer.

  • @jonathanbair523
    @jonathanbair523 Рік тому +1

    Type 51 G1&2 with the Luda II kinda sounds like the French gave them a fully operational Dolphin ASW helicopter.. I wonder if there is how they got the Mark 46 torp....

    • @banerda2334
      @banerda2334 Рік тому

      From Taiwan actually. Defected Taiwanese airplanes

  • @5anjuro
    @5anjuro Рік тому +2

    Hi Aaron, guess everybody's asking about Taiwan's new sub?

    • @SubBrief
      @SubBrief  Рік тому +2

      yeah, it's a copy of the Dutch Walrus class sub from the 1990's. not that impressive.

  • @JohnTBlock
    @JohnTBlock Рік тому

    A threat, but basicly dead meat for a Los Angeles class, let alone a Virginia? What IS our current hunter/killer class sub, Aaron?

  • @ericmason349
    @ericmason349 Рік тому +2

    20:33 have the Chinese copied from everyone? French sonar. US Torpedo. Italian gun. Although I can see the French and Italians selling their technology back then.

    • @SubBrief
      @SubBrief  Рік тому +3

      Yes, it saves millions (billions?) of dollars and years of development time.

    • @banerda2334
      @banerda2334 Рік тому +2

      Actually they are all licensed production.

    • @ZxZ239
      @ZxZ239 Рік тому +2

      You should really not take a closer look at newest Indian ships

    • @gazwa-e-chin9045
      @gazwa-e-chin9045 Рік тому +1

      @@ZxZ239this habit of prc whataboutary is amazing.

  • @miamijules2149
    @miamijules2149 Рік тому +2

    All Hail JiveTurkey!

    • @SubBrief
      @SubBrief  Рік тому +1

      Thank you very much, @miamijules2149 !

  • @growingwealth101
    @growingwealth101 Рік тому

    Aaron, I think you were wrong about the Chinese sub crash. Can you do a video on it?

    • @SubBrief
      @SubBrief  Рік тому +2

      now it's a sub crash? The story keeps changing. Eventually, social media will get it right. I've made a video within the last two weeks addressing what happened. It's here on youtube.

  • @IanMaschal
    @IanMaschal Рік тому +1

    I’m so freaking confused. I thought you had a new video coming out at 8 PM today now I see is something for 10 AM on the first?

    • @SubBrief
      @SubBrief  Рік тому +6

      I had to push it back, sorry.

    • @IanMaschal
      @IanMaschal Рік тому +1

      All good. I appreciate the feedback and the work that you do.

  • @alexcunningham2037
    @alexcunningham2037 Рік тому

    I see a lot of the kagero class from WW2 in that ship design. Idk if it's actually part of what inspired the lines. But they're there.

  • @TheOriginalJAX
    @TheOriginalJAX Рік тому

    @24:40 Uh the United kingdom our ship/submarine building capabilities are pretty well know at this point and it's no secret we do everything in house. A lot of European nations also have their own in house development form the ground upwards where they also take great generational leaps in shifting their platforms so kind of lost me on that bit.
    Like sure though they got the job done and with no external assistance at least as far as we know I do suspect they have been contracting Russian IP exchange under the table which would involve Russian Défense industry specialists being directly involved with production of these vessels but good look proofing that as they have had a lot of practice collaborating on the down low so yeah.

  • @jebadiahkerman7846
    @jebadiahkerman7846 Рік тому

    Luda-class... Isn't that the name of some rapper? Anywho, joking aside, very well done and informative, as always.

  • @dscary1837
    @dscary1837 Рік тому

    How does a chain and anchor submarine trap work?

  • @guaposneeze
    @guaposneeze Рік тому

    I love how military stuff is either insane bleeding edge sci fi at the absolute limits of technology, or else hilariously archaic stuff that got bogged down in acquisitions and being made robust for combat so you are deploying systems with have as much RAM as a Commodore 64 in the 1990's. And absolutely nothing in between.

  • @picardtseng
    @picardtseng Рік тому

    Atually HQ-7 was reversed engineering from French Crotale, which PLAN purchased 2 sets in 1980s.

  • @GreatSunJesterLives
    @GreatSunJesterLives Рік тому

    Would like to see a video on the loss of the Chinese sub recently, reportedly due to toxic gas within.

  • @bryandepaepe5984
    @bryandepaepe5984 Рік тому

    Philosophically speaking everything is reverse engineered to some degree but the term is reserved for those who copy a design in an unauthorised defiant manner.

  • @joyce_bobmurphy1410
    @joyce_bobmurphy1410 Рік тому

    But they couldn’t make a Luda-cris! Cheers! Bob

  • @memyself637
    @memyself637 Рік тому

    The Chinese did not develop the HQ-7 SAM all by themselves. It's a navalized copy of the French Croatale SAM.

  • @stijnvandamme76
    @stijnvandamme76 Рік тому

    the ludaclass looks like a ship for Ludacris

  • @mikael5938
    @mikael5938 Рік тому

    from this to type 55 cruiser in 20 years is impressive. America made 3 useless zumvalt for 34B usd in the same time.

    • @SubBrief
      @SubBrief  Рік тому +5

      we tested the Zumwalt so they don't have to waste 20 years discovering it doesn't work.

    • @thepatriot676
      @thepatriot676 Рік тому +1

      What do you guys think of the Hypersonic missiles being put on the zumwalts by 2025?

  • @IpepeI
    @IpepeI Рік тому +8

    Hi Aaron! One question please. I find it difficult to understand (or accept) claims that the PLN's Type 055 is equal in quality and capabilities to the USN's Arleigh Burke-class. They might look the same on the outside and Chinese are exceptional at stealing/hacking/copying. But u just can't skip 40 years of development and war operations. All the weapon systems, senzors, sonar, radars... I don't believe they are at the same level. What do you think?

    • @SubBrief
      @SubBrief  Рік тому +21

      I have a detailed break down of the Type055 coming out on October 15th. In short, China skipped 40 years of development cost by stealing or illegally purchasing technology to create a very formidable destroyer. Contractor greed played a large role in helping the PLAN skip years, no decades, of engineering failures.

    • @IpepeI
      @IpepeI Рік тому +2

      @@SubBrief Thank You! :) Looking forward to it.

    • @jwenting
      @jwenting Рік тому +3

      @@SubBrief Same thing they did to get their hands on the F-22 to create their own stealth fighters... And what the Soviets did with western diesel engine, anechoic coating, and propellor design to create the Kilo class (which the Chinese then copied to create their newer submarines, leapfrogging decades in submarine design).

    • @gattlinggun9881
      @gattlinggun9881 Рік тому

      CH!NA TYPE 055 WARSH!PS HAS STAND 0FF HYPERS0N!C TACT!TAL NUCLEAR WEAP0NS HAS RANGES AR0UND 2.000 KM+++!!!

    • @banerda2334
      @banerda2334 Рік тому +3

      @@SubBrief Yes, PLAN copies the ASEA redar from Arleigh Burke III class 15 years ahead of time

  • @n5syr01
    @n5syr01 Рік тому +1

    Luda class. Sounds like Ludacris 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @Swoost
    @Swoost Рік тому

    This is pretty luda-cris

  • @dkoz8321
    @dkoz8321 3 місяці тому

    Luda-kris! Just Luda-kris.

  • @willpugh8865
    @willpugh8865 Рік тому +2

    Lmao the rice shield ? really nato couldn’t come up with something a little less on the nose … or i guess the eyes in this case ? Lol

  • @GRIGGINS1
    @GRIGGINS1 Рік тому

    It looks like a bootleg Forest Sherman Class.

  • @ghostindamachine
    @ghostindamachine Рік тому

    That's Luda-crous!

  • @ericmason349
    @ericmason349 Рік тому

    Another fire on an assault ship the USS Bougainville under construction? June 30, 2023. Is someone out to get the assault ships? The USS Bougainville will have a well deck. Interesting.

  • @doctorscoot
    @doctorscoot Рік тому

    speaking of reverse engineering, have you ever covered what happened to the former a/c carrier (1950s) HMAS Melbourne? which was sold to China for ‘scrap’ in the 1980s?

    • @picardtseng
      @picardtseng Рік тому

      They surprisingly found the critical aviation gears like catapults and optical landing system are intact. These samples were valuable for the Chinese preliminary study of aircraft carrier started in 1989, which called Project 891. Yet Chinese could neither afford nor manufacture a carrier in 1990s, and Project 891 was halted in 1995.

    • @yiping7193
      @yiping7193 Рік тому

      Chinese engineers was really surprised at the poor design of the Melbourne, later w.hen soviet collapsed it was able to study Soviet carriers and then decided to skip steam catapults entirely.

  • @oceanmariner
    @oceanmariner Рік тому

    Boilers shouldn't vibrate the hull. It's just an oil fire and large air blowers. Compared to diesels, steam is quiet. More likely the vibration was caused by poorly balanced steam turbine, reduction gear, propeller, shaft, or all four. Also if the shaft alignment isn't good it will cause a vibration and eat bearings. As the bearings start to fail it causes a lot of vibration. By the time these ships were built, boilers weren't rocket science. Boiler knowledge was at it's peak except for nuclear steam boilers. US ships built after WWII had higher pressure boilers, but it was just an extension of current technology. Technical information was available everywhere. WWII caused thousands of engineers to be taught and mountains of boiler technical information printed. All of that was easily available along with the engineers if you could read English.
    The French will sell anything to anybody. They sold tank optics to Russia and lots of other equipment they (or the US) might have to eventually fight.

  • @Re.Configured
    @Re.Configured Рік тому

    Their Z-9C Dolphin looks exactly like the US HH-65 Dolphin

    • @jwenting
      @jwenting Рік тому

      that's because it is the same. The Z-9 is a reverse engineered Aerospatiale Dauphin, the HH-65 is a license built Aerospatiale Dauphin.

    • @banerda2334
      @banerda2334 Рік тому +1

      @@jwenting Z-8 Z-9 and Z-11 are all licensed copy from France

    • @Re.Configured
      @Re.Configured Рік тому

      @@jwenting well there you go haha

  • @allensanders5535
    @allensanders5535 Рік тому

    the neustrashimy was built again in 2018 WoWs.

    • @SubBrief
      @SubBrief  Рік тому +1

      Is there a new one? I need to look that up....

    • @allensanders5535
      @allensanders5535 Рік тому

      its a premium I don't know if its for sale but they give it away in loot boxes and events like black friday it's not too hard to find and it's not a bad ship@@SubBrief

    • @allensanders5535
      @allensanders5535 Рік тому

      neustrashimy is a tier IX available for coal right now WoWs@@SubBrief

  • @tekteam26
    @tekteam26 Рік тому

    Sorry, but the HQ-7 is still a Chinese copy of the French Crotale SAM.

    • @SubBrief
      @SubBrief  Рік тому +1

      i'm sorry too. Of all the things to copy... a French system? They should try harder.

  • @pastorjerrykliner3162
    @pastorjerrykliner3162 Рік тому

    Notice how Mao is slightly larger than Stalin in that stamp @0:30? Propaganda 101: "your guy" is always the biggest...

    • @antremiomoscocio
      @antremiomoscocio Місяць тому

      Mao literally was bigger than stalin, he was about 5’11 while stalin was around 5’6

  • @bossdog1480
    @bossdog1480 Рік тому

    The Chines possibly copied the Japanese with making updates on the same model.
    If you've ever owned a Japanese car or motorbike, you have to know EXACTLY when it was made, down to the month because they made 'improvements' along the way.
    On another note, I'd just like to make a comment on the brave US soldier's return, after his cleverly disguised spy mission in North Korea.
    His name will be synonymous with using maximum ingenuity in penetrating the North Korean defenses. It was absolutely unbelievable that such a seemingly ordinary soldier could achieve the great success that he did. I'm sure his vast knowledge of North Korean interrogation methods will serve the US well for years to come, along with all the information he was able to glean on their whole military operation. 😁😁

  • @pdqkevin
    @pdqkevin Рік тому

    Factions or fractures not fractions. Fractions is a math term.

  • @Syndr1
    @Syndr1 Рік тому +3

    Spoilers?, the plans were probably stolen. 😉

    • @williamchamberlain2263
      @williamchamberlain2263 Рік тому +1

      Is it _really_ stolen if it's published on a WarThunder forum?

    • @Syndr1
      @Syndr1 Рік тому

      @@williamchamberlain2263 fair point,lol

  • @dm-rj2zg
    @dm-rj2zg Рік тому

    So I understand that most of the plan is not blue water and ship per ship is much less impressive than the usn but in a hypothetical conventional war within the first island chain could the plan overwhelm the usn with sheer numbers and better replenishment of losses?

  • @jman2903
    @jman2903 Рік тому

    On other thing the Chinese are real good at besides copying everything is espionage

  • @JustPlainRex
    @JustPlainRex Рік тому

    luda class more like ludicrous.

  • @diortioinocando8976
    @diortioinocando8976 Рік тому

    wow hehehe

  • @Bigmanslim
    @Bigmanslim Рік тому

    Luda!

  • @backseatgamer7367
    @backseatgamer7367 Рік тому +8

    Stop working on civilian time...

    • @anaxis
      @anaxis Рік тому +1

      There's a civilian time?? 🤔

    • @SubBrief
      @SubBrief  Рік тому +3

      I think BSG is drinking again, lol. You feeling good, backseatgamer?