AT the moment the most prestigious gravel bike races are extreme endurance events and very long. So maybe an aero gravel bike would make a significant time difference in completing the race. Small increases in speed add up to a significant amount in the end.
I have a 3t aero gravel bike. I like the bike and it is fast on the sections between gravel, or when I put road tires on it but it doesn't do anything for the gravel sections, thats up to my legs.
Juliet Elliot just posted about putting TT bars on her Gravel bike, she did it for comfort during a long race to provide for a recovery period while still riding. Not aero, but serving a purpose. So, if someone wants an aero gravel bike, maybe they’ve got an application. Having said that, I don’t. But I do find it interesting.
What am I getting for $20k? I really don't know but for some reason when I buy a bike I feel the need to spend more and more. I don't spend more, simply because I don't have it, but I feel like I should be. What the hell is that? I don't need all that crap, and if I think about it, I don't evan really want it. But the need has been created. Just like that scene in 'Wolf of Wallstreet'. For me, I really have to be disciplined. I know what I need, just get that. But it does take some effort. I could easily become prey if I dont.
My first road bike a 2006 Scatantte had square like tubes. Interesting in that it was under the UCI limit...and it supposedly was a "Made in Taiwan" disaster. Wish I still had it
when I saw some post on the fb canyon group where some people are trying to fit 32C tires on their aeroads, I can see this "aero gravel bike" thing coming 🤣🤣🤣
@@waynosfotos Because 32mm tires aren't any slower than narrower ones on rough roads most of us ride on (at least I haven't seen any real evidence). Personally I'd like to see real road tires in even wider sizes than 32, just to find the point where the width starts slowing you down, it seems it's a lot wider than commonly believed.
I like Aero Gravel bikes i got one, an Ridley Kanzo Fast with Campy Ekar and Campy Levante Rims. It is super fast i think it is the best of both worlds. The Mtb and the race bike. Drive wat you like, the most important think is go out and ride the Pony.
Aero bikes are great, as long as you ride on clean dry gravel roads. Look at the bikes in races like Unbound or BWR when the weather makes it mucky. If you can afford to replace your frame after every race then those tight tolerances for the "aero" gains maybe worth it. I have an Aspero and the frame is trashed. Chainstays, downtube bottom bracket all gouged to shit from a bit of mud sticking to the tires or even a muddy chain. If you want to race or just ride for fun get a gravel bike that's not aero. Unless you want to through money away. Space is your friend when the road gets crappy.
I have a light weight Cyclocross bike and that is what my ass will be on until the Sun doesn't shine. I'm not going to buy a gravel bike. The bike industry has pissed me off enough with their marketing BS that I don't know what to believe anymore so I'm just going to ride what I have. If gravel roads are what we are talking about, not some of the singletrack stuff shown in a lot of UA-cam videos, then a cyclocross bike will be fine. Remember this, spend all the money you got on the aero gravel bike but there will always be someone who can come along on a cyclocross bike and beat you.
At times the bike industry really drives me mad. These manufacturers really could sell sand to an Arab, if you make it and market it with some fancy bullshit there are plenty of idiots out there who swallow it. But honestly the sad thing for me is that things are moving so fast now I am feeling like I’m getting left behind with my non aero, non tubeless, rim brake, mechanical shifting bike
Aero in gravel is not worth it if you are uncomfortable on the bike or if it is too heavy.. Lighter weight with out risking safety is another topic which can be measured and affects the accelerations over mixed terrain, responding to other riders, and climbing. You do not see road pros using deepest rim wheels outside TT for good reason. In MTB lightweight for the reasons above plus durability. Aero has little value to only one of many concerns outside of TT or triathlons bikes.
Aero gravel bikes! What a load of marketing BS. Bike companies need to take a hard look at themselves, they will be telling us next that 1x13 speed, disc brake, tubeless unicycles are lighter and more aero therefore faster 😂
The gullible masses aren't told that even the most marginal of gains are for those that make a ton of power. Just buy something that gives you 95% of the performance for a quarter the price of trying to get that last 5% intended for those that can hold 400 watts for a long time. Also the base line to make any comparisons are either hidden or it keeps moving so noobs have no reference. New riders keep regurgitating the spiel they have been fed in recent times. Okay, now just adding something off topic. Can some one please build thru axle road bike with rim calipers? hehehe
@@mythical7thgear sorry my bad, didn't read the question properly. No rim brakes came with through axles, only disc in the early days came with over centre calipers axles. Just a note: over lever clamping forces are much higher than through axles.
AT the moment the most prestigious gravel bike races are extreme endurance events and very long. So maybe an aero gravel bike would make a significant time difference in completing the race. Small increases in speed add up to a significant amount in the end.
I have a 3t aero gravel bike. I like the bike and it is fast on the sections between gravel, or when I put road tires on it but it doesn't do anything for the gravel sections, thats up to my legs.
Juliet Elliot just posted about putting TT bars on her Gravel bike, she did it for comfort during a long race to provide for a recovery period while still riding. Not aero, but serving a purpose. So, if someone wants an aero gravel bike, maybe they’ve got an application. Having said that, I don’t. But I do find it interesting.
I have aero bars on a road bike but they're terrible on rough surfaces. I wouldn't attempt it.
Actually a good idea for road riding with packs on the bike, i.e. bike packing, whilst on the road.
What am I getting for $20k? I really don't know but for some reason when I buy a bike I feel the need to spend more and more. I don't spend more, simply because I don't have it, but I feel like I should be. What the hell is that? I don't need all that crap, and if I think about it, I don't evan really want it. But the need has been created. Just like that scene in 'Wolf of Wallstreet'. For me, I really have to be disciplined. I know what I need, just get that. But it does take some effort. I could easily become prey if I dont.
It's styling. In 10 years square frame tubes will be a thing!
My first road bike a 2006 Scatantte had square like tubes. Interesting in that it was under the UCI limit...and it supposedly was a "Made in Taiwan" disaster. Wish I still had it
when I saw some post on the fb canyon group where some people are trying to fit 32C tires on their aeroads, I can see this "aero gravel bike" thing coming 🤣🤣🤣
Crazy, but why?
@@waynosfotos Because 32mm tires aren't any slower than narrower ones on rough roads most of us ride on (at least I haven't seen any real evidence). Personally I'd like to see real road tires in even wider sizes than 32, just to find the point where the width starts slowing you down, it seems it's a lot wider than commonly believed.
I like Aero Gravel bikes i got one, an Ridley Kanzo Fast with Campy Ekar and Campy Levante Rims. It is super fast i think it is the best of both worlds. The Mtb and the race bike. Drive wat you like, the most important think is go out and ride the Pony.
Aero bikes are great, as long as you ride on clean dry gravel roads. Look at the bikes in races like Unbound or BWR when the weather makes it mucky. If you can afford to replace your frame after every race then those tight tolerances for the "aero" gains maybe worth it. I have an Aspero and the frame is trashed. Chainstays, downtube bottom bracket all gouged to shit from a bit of mud sticking to the tires or even a muddy chain. If you want to race or just ride for fun get a gravel bike that's not aero. Unless you want to through money away. Space is your friend when the road gets crappy.
I don't like the look of Aero gravel bikes and then there's the whole other argument of whether they are faster.
More marketing to sell a bike you don't need just enjoy the ride
Did u see the video Cam Nicholls put out with the BMC head engineer about disc brakes? Has waynos name all over it 😂
Will have to check it out
Sounds like a Hot Air Gravel Bike to me.
Get well soon
Thanks so much 🙏
I have a light weight Cyclocross bike and that is what my ass will be on until the Sun doesn't shine. I'm not going to buy a gravel bike. The bike industry has pissed me off enough with their marketing BS that I don't know what to believe anymore so I'm just going to ride what I have. If gravel roads are what we are talking about, not some of the singletrack stuff shown in a lot of UA-cam videos, then a cyclocross bike will be fine. Remember this, spend all the money you got on the aero gravel bike but there will always be someone who can come along on a cyclocross bike and beat you.
At times the bike industry really drives me mad. These manufacturers really could sell sand to an Arab, if you make it and market it with some fancy bullshit there are plenty of idiots out there who swallow it. But honestly the sad thing for me is that things are moving so fast now I am feeling like I’m getting left behind with my non aero, non tubeless, rim brake, mechanical shifting bike
Your not getting left behind. Bikes are bikes, not hypercars as these companies want us to believe.
Aero in gravel is not worth it if you are uncomfortable on the bike or if it is too heavy.. Lighter weight with out risking safety is another topic which can be measured and affects the accelerations over mixed terrain, responding to other riders, and climbing. You do not see road pros using deepest rim wheels outside TT for good reason. In MTB lightweight for the reasons above plus durability. Aero has little value to only one of many concerns outside of TT or triathlons bikes.
I'm so glad that it's gone silly because now I don't have to care about it.
Gravel is not for that unless racing
Aero gravel bikes! What a load of marketing BS.
Bike companies need to take a hard look at themselves, they will be telling us next that 1x13 speed, disc brake, tubeless unicycles are lighter and more aero therefore faster 😂
🤣
Buy an expensive$$$ “gravel bike” and ruin by riding on dusty/rough surfaces.
That’s what cheap mountain bikes were always for...
20 plus totally ridiculous
The gullible masses aren't told that even the most marginal of gains are for those that make a ton of power. Just buy something that gives you 95% of the performance for a quarter the price of trying to get that last 5% intended for those that can hold 400 watts for a long time. Also the base line to make any comparisons are either hidden or it keeps moving so noobs have no reference. New riders keep regurgitating the spiel they have been fed in recent times. Okay, now just adding something off topic. Can some one please build thru axle road bike with rim calipers? hehehe
They did when disc first came out, they had alignment problems so went to through axles.
@@waynosfotos what thru axle road frames came with rim brakes?
@@mythical7thgear sorry my bad, didn't read the question properly. No rim brakes came with through axles, only disc in the early days came with over centre calipers axles. Just a note: over lever clamping forces are much higher than through axles.
I have to admit I'm bored shitless with the most overused word in the bike industry 😴
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