Who's In Control? - Turkish Airlines Flight 1951

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    Turkish Airlines Flight 1951 was a passenger flight from Istanbul, Turkey, to Amsterdam Schiphol Airport, Netherlands, on 25th February 2009.
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  • @alienrefugee51
    @alienrefugee51 5 років тому +78

    I really don’t understand how planes with known problems, no matter how small continue to fly. It always takes a disaster to change a damn part that greedy billion dollar companies don’t want to address.

    • @johnvines4875
      @johnvines4875 5 років тому +2

      net income is only few hundred million, slow down

  • @cratoschsohndescadrim5036
    @cratoschsohndescadrim5036 5 років тому +35

    Interesting. Like in the ongoing Boeing 737 Max 8 crisis, a major factor is an automated system that relies on a single sensor without redundancy. Despite this major design flaw Boeing shifts all blame to the pilots. Seems to be a pattern.

    • @oliverstransky4254
      @oliverstransky4254 4 роки тому +1

      @@davehagen2540 there was no documentation that the MCAS existed in the max 8 first of all second of all they maxed it a few secinds after turning off throttle and went down in a attempt to gain speed which is a high altitude stall recovery so they did kinda a fault there

  • @MrTruckerf
    @MrTruckerf 6 років тому +76

    Fortunately there was no fire.

  • @Stripedbottom
    @Stripedbottom 5 років тому +21

    Wait what? "Yeah, we have this device that supplies critical data that the plane uses to fly itself but we can't make the darn device work properly. It's not a safety issue though. Oh no, it isn't."

    • @AS-er4ud
      @AS-er4ud 5 років тому +13

      So fucking disgraceful to blame the pilots. Yea, the pilots could have maybe mitigated the problem, but it's not their fault that the plane is fucking broken.

  • @alphafoxtrot787
    @alphafoxtrot787 6 років тому +56

    The impact looks deadly, But im glad there were survivors. Rest in peace for those who died, oh and loved the video! Great work

    • @alphafoxtrot787
      @alphafoxtrot787 6 років тому

      No problem, keep up the great work!

    • @TheShmrsh
      @TheShmrsh 5 років тому +1

      Is that was a real video of impact or cg?

    • @sammyd2175
      @sammyd2175 5 років тому

      @@TheShmrsh the impact video was CGI

  • @trashpakker
    @trashpakker 5 років тому +25

    Failed twice before. With similar failures throughout the 737s. So Boeing blames the pilots. I hope the families of the dead got their paydays................my deepest condolences to them.
    "X" kickin ass here kid. Very well done sir.

  • @maspencer6379
    @maspencer6379 5 років тому +18

    If I were the plane I'd be questioning why I were flying underground.

  • @liamdoc1368
    @liamdoc1368 6 років тому +38

    a mix of designer flaws and pilot mistakes a killer combo, very unfortunate hope this never happens again. PS luv the vids

    • @GratedArseCheeks
      @GratedArseCheeks 5 років тому

      Why on earth does it not have detection for a failed altimeter? Surely it would be easy to implement a system that forces a manual landing if the altimeter is stuck?

  • @mishmashmedley
    @mishmashmedley 4 роки тому +10

    "4 Boeing engineers on board..."
    Me: Oh! Cool, they will help diagnose and fix the problem! Awesome.
    _^6 minutes later^_
    Well WTF.

  • @ricarleite
    @ricarleite 5 років тому +5

    OK so let me get this straight. There is a known bug on the radio altimeter for all 737s, and Boeing response is "Yep we don't know the cause, so, when this happens just pay attention and switch to manual."
    What?!

    • @Lara__Croft
      @Lara__Croft 5 років тому +1

      I know it's crazy to expect pilots to pay attention to the aircraft they're flying.

    • @JohnDoe-xl8fr
      @JohnDoe-xl8fr 5 років тому +1

      They just act like smartass . TK must leave Boeing ASAP .

  • @n0rpp4
    @n0rpp4 5 років тому +5

    Let me guess, Boeing didn't redesign the radio altimeter system

  • @Super-J10
    @Super-J10 6 років тому

    Awesome info / video as usual !

  • @GeorgiesMom723
    @GeorgiesMom723 6 років тому

    Another great video! Yours are the best crash videos by far.

  • @bena6575
    @bena6575 6 років тому +1

    Just found your videos and I appreciate the effort you are putting in! The information is really well presented. Keep it up my dude👍🏻

  • @SuperSherman44
    @SuperSherman44 6 років тому +2

    nice vid!

  • @klaus3794
    @klaus3794 6 років тому +1

    FASCINATING!

  • @nosybutnice7538
    @nosybutnice7538 5 років тому +24

    The cockpit looked like it was survivable for the pilots.

    • @Tellyfive
      @Tellyfive 5 років тому +2

      That’s what I was thinking.

    • @benjaminc8789
      @benjaminc8789 5 років тому +8

      Probably weren’t wearing seatbelts, something else they forgot about .

    • @ricarleite
      @ricarleite 5 років тому

      No seatbelts

    • @konstamattsson
      @konstamattsson 5 років тому +17

      The frontal landing gear pushed through the floor of the cockpit, causing the pilots fatal brain damage

    • @Dan-379
      @Dan-379 2 роки тому

      The F/O actually survived the initial impact and tried to call for help

  • @DeployTheDRS
    @DeployTheDRS 5 років тому +2

    I remember watching this on the news hours before I was set to fly from Nice to East Midlands on a BMI Baby when I lived in France. Didn't give me good vibes I'd I'm honest...

  • @lilzack59
    @lilzack59 6 років тому

    You are doing an excellent job! You make Joshua Alec Ebay look like an amateur with his great value flight simulator

  • @WINFIELD120
    @WINFIELD120 4 роки тому

    your videos rock

  • @lesb_socal
    @lesb_socal 6 років тому +3

    I find this incredulous! A known very serious problem existed and no compelling action taken. Didnt even notify all the pilots so they wouldnt be blindsided while ferrying passengers.
    Govt agencies and Boeing borked up real good then have gall to blame pilots who they basically TRICKED.
    Makes me wonder what situations like this exist right now.

  • @titan9259
    @titan9259 5 років тому

    UR DA BEST UA-camR IN DA WORLD!

  • @graysonb2664
    @graysonb2664 6 років тому +1

    You should do the UA-cam Channel member thing, and great video as always

  • @watershed44
    @watershed44 5 років тому +1

    X Pilot
    What also puzzles me is why the pilots that had the problems previously didn't leave
    a warning note posted in the cockpit for these pilots about the problem. It would have been simple as writing a few sentences and this would have likely been prevented.
    Don't the prior cockpit crews ever leave such notes to subsequent pilots? Seems like common sense to me.

  • @TheVirindi
    @TheVirindi 6 років тому +6

    No changes to the operation of the computer? It sounds like there should be an audible warning when automatic flare activates.

    • @watershed44
      @watershed44 5 років тому +1

      VirindiJess
      Indeed you would think this would be the case. I wish X Pilot would do a live stream chat so we could discuss such things as a follow up.

    • @benjaminc8789
      @benjaminc8789 5 років тому

      watershed44 I think expilot is busy just making these vids in I the first instance

    • @JohnDoe-xl8fr
      @JohnDoe-xl8fr 5 років тому +1

      We talking about Boeing . Do you think they really care people .

  • @TheLesserWeevil
    @TheLesserWeevil 5 років тому +5

    Interesting that all 3 pilots were killed. The forward/cockpit section of the plane looked pretty well intact.

    • @Marckymarc71
      @Marckymarc71 5 років тому +5

      Most of the fatalities and critical injuries on this flight were seated in the front of the plane. It probably hit the hardest.

    • @konstamattsson
      @konstamattsson 5 років тому +1

      The frontal landing gear came through the floor of the cockpit, causing the pilots fatal brain damage

    • @konstamattsson
      @konstamattsson 5 років тому +1

      @Chuck Finley The NTSB final report of this crash

    • @mamindhive
      @mamindhive 5 років тому +1

      It is because of the nose pitch down trying to gain airspeed

  • @georgespector974
    @georgespector974 6 років тому +5

    I probably shouldn’t watch this right before going on a plane myself...

    • @MarkiusFox
      @MarkiusFox 6 років тому +2

      Well, it's not that bad being quite honest. If anything, the incidents are a severe exception rather than the rule.

    • @watershed44
      @watershed44 5 років тому +1

      George_Monkey Jojo
      Just don't watch this while flying and allow fellow passengers or crew to see it. The crew WILL tell you to turn it off if anyone can see the screen.

  • @jacksainthill8974
    @jacksainthill8974 6 років тому +2

    07:30 _Investigators recommend that Boeing redesign the B737 radio altimeter system._
    Recommend? That's not quite the same as telling them to get on and do it, is it?
    Interesting video, thank you.

    • @Buick_GSX
      @Buick_GSX 5 років тому +1

      Because Boeing gets special treatment, unlike McDonnell Douglas and Lockheed and other manufacturers.

  • @Jibriltz
    @Jibriltz 5 років тому +1

    A radio altimeter problem that causes Flare mode at 1000ft? A problem like that should have grounded the aircraft. Anything that makes the aircraft do something unexpected at low speed and low altitude is dangerous. Yes the pilots should have taken control and continued manually and focused on flying the plane but Amsterdam is busy as hell and it is too easy to get distracted on approach. Mechanical fault combined with busy environment and training was a fatal mix and I blame Turkish completely for this accident.

  • @bottomtext5872
    @bottomtext5872 6 років тому +20

    I don't get why the investigators blamed the pilots, they said them self that the pilots where occupied with the landing checklist, you don't read 2 or 3 lines then glance up.

    • @khalidfh
      @khalidfh 6 років тому +3

      I am wondering as well

    • @MarkiusFox
      @MarkiusFox 6 років тому +5

      The flight had an Instructor Captain, a Safety Pilot and a First Officer that was in line training, meaning they were getting on the job training to build hours in that aircraft and learning the practical things with the help of the Instructor and overseen by the Safety Pilot.

    • @CaptainFeathersword
      @CaptainFeathersword 5 років тому +8

      Rule #1 is "fly the airplane". There are certain critical items that must be constantly monitored, regardless of anything else. Ensuring sufficient airspeed at very low altitude is a life or death thing.

    • @celanis7164
      @celanis7164 5 років тому +3

      Criticized != blamed. Other pilots noticed and corrected the flaw days before - it should have been passed on to maintenance and the next flying crew(s). I think the blame is clearly faulty hardware.

    • @JohnDoe-xl8fr
      @JohnDoe-xl8fr 5 років тому

      You know , nationalism against Turkey .

  • @xcentnastyx5346
    @xcentnastyx5346 6 років тому

    Love your videos. Do you ever plan on doing comair flight 5191?

  • @TheDissentience
    @TheDissentience 5 років тому

    Those injuries must have been fucking brutal

  • @alexanderyi2514
    @alexanderyi2514 5 років тому +1

    Yo! Please make a video on the recent Alaska Airlines incident over Seattle. Mechanic hijacks plane with no passengers and goes rogue, crashes into Puget Sound. Apparently they had communicaiton too

  • @smb226b
    @smb226b 6 років тому +2

    Wow,I love it, 1 question
    Why you deleted the previous video?

  • @fenser
    @fenser 6 років тому +3

    X pilot are you a pilot irl? Loving the content

    • @danman367
      @danman367 5 років тому +2

      X Pilot you'd be a great pilot since you have an extensive knowledge of airplane disasters

  • @rpgfpv4363
    @rpgfpv4363 6 років тому

    Can you do a video on the recent Aeromexico AM2431 crash in Durango?

  • @barbaraguy3491
    @barbaraguy3491 5 років тому +1

    This is another senseless maintenance tragedy. Two days before, the same issue?! Why wasn't that a log entry for the next crew to decide if they should fly/not fly with a faulty instrument?
    I find your channel very interesting and provocative. You sometimes mention the upside that future aviation endeavors learn from these tragedies, but it will not convince me to enter a plane.
    Other comments request music or voice-over after the crash, I disagree. I find your format reverent and respectful to the lost souls on the flight. Thank you.

  • @Nominay
    @Nominay 6 років тому

    Recommendation: Make a video of the Buddy Holly 1959 flight.

  • @lillemand5
    @lillemand5 5 років тому

    Flying a Turkish Airlines 737 in a few hours (CPH-IST), hope this doesn't repeat itself.

  • @Dendelin007
    @Dendelin007 4 роки тому

    Well the height was about to get minus 8 feet, not yet though.

  • @joshuahollenstein5003
    @joshuahollenstein5003 5 років тому

    Why does the altimeter even go to -8?!

  • @tianyangsun8107
    @tianyangsun8107 5 років тому

    is that an AD item on the Service Bulletin?

  • @qmto
    @qmto 4 роки тому

    Plane be like: Hmm, I see you’re currently flying 8 feet below the ground... Why isn’t your landing gear deployed?!

  • @vanjamaric5255
    @vanjamaric5255 6 років тому +4

    Dude Im regular Turkish airlanes passenger...Geez....

    • @JohnDoe-xl8fr
      @JohnDoe-xl8fr 5 років тому +1

      AlaribonGames TV Fault of the Boeing

  • @harrisonofcolorado8886
    @harrisonofcolorado8886 6 років тому +3

    I really hope this doesn't happen again.

    • @Nominay
      @Nominay 6 років тому +1

      Harrison La time traveler As long as airline companies want to cut corners, it will.

    • @harrisonofcolorado8886
      @harrisonofcolorado8886 6 років тому

      Well, s***.

  • @P_RoC45
    @P_RoC45 6 років тому

    Great content, but the white font is kinda hard to read.

    • @P_RoC45
      @P_RoC45 6 років тому +2

      You still make the best airline disaster videos, no one does it better!

  • @calebshockency2083
    @calebshockency2083 5 років тому

    Shit, only nine died? I was convinced that a plane could lightly brush the terrain and still kill everyone. Those passengers must be robots.

  • @psalmsdavidofficial539
    @psalmsdavidofficial539 3 роки тому +1

    Come on Rita, that was stupid!

  • @DanielOliveira-ye8yd
    @DanielOliveira-ye8yd 5 років тому

    what it means the aircraft was "written off"?

    • @CWINDOWSsystem32
      @CWINDOWSsystem32 5 років тому

      I think it means that the aircraft could technically be repaired, but the repair cost would outweigh the cost to replace the plane. In which case the aircraft is considered a total loss.

  • @theallfather6637
    @theallfather6637 5 років тому

    I thought air crash investigations said the cause of the crash was a microburst

  • @RECTALBURRITO
    @RECTALBURRITO 3 роки тому

    So it was Boeing and pilot error... Right?

  • @christophersalgado4139
    @christophersalgado4139 5 років тому

    What about Delta Airlines flight 1141?

  • @A6kilr
    @A6kilr 6 років тому +4

    I want to know who’s the person who dislikes your videos

    • @m1co294
      @m1co294 5 років тому

      Brian probably Allec's fans

  • @anatolislavov4895
    @anatolislavov4895 6 років тому +5

    next one crash of lech kaczynski's plane?

  • @DominicanOps
    @DominicanOps 6 років тому

    Where is the CGI footage from?

  • @andikacesatama9925
    @andikacesatama9925 6 років тому

    Next Turkish Airlines 981 PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEE;!!!!!!!!

  • @lazuriidkwhattoputhere8719
    @lazuriidkwhattoputhere8719 5 років тому

    How the hell do the NTSB criticize 3 dead pilots

    • @benjaminc8789
      @benjaminc8789 5 років тому +1

      Noble Jacinto it’s easier that way ...

  • @theomuller4224
    @theomuller4224 5 років тому

    casual preference captain hate definitely enormous sigh singer magic own.

  • @zone5five
    @zone5five 5 років тому

    If the radalt doesn't work, turn the damn thing off. Killed by automation, sounds like Airbus.

  • @MrCtrn
    @MrCtrn 4 роки тому +4

    How Boeing’s Responsibility in a Deadly Crash ‘Got Buried’ By Chris Hamby
    Jan. 20, 2020
    The New York Times.

  • @TS0513
    @TS0513 6 років тому +2

    Who's on control?
    The Pilot is in control

    • @davidmoore1253
      @davidmoore1253 6 років тому

      The point is that the plane flared automatically without warning the pilot. By the time the pilot realised and took control it was too late.

    • @TS0513
      @TS0513 6 років тому +1

      David Moore i was joking

    • @JohnDoe-xl8fr
      @JohnDoe-xl8fr 5 років тому

      David Moore Because Boeing is shit

  • @m1co294
    @m1co294 5 років тому +1

    Did Allec Joshua Ibay (fellow pinoy) gave you permission to copy his editing style, titles and stuff?

    • @CWINDOWSsystem32
      @CWINDOWSsystem32 5 років тому

      Nobody owns any certain style of editing. Well maybe except Disney...

  • @insxder
    @insxder 3 роки тому

    That's why you should never fly with Boeing airplanes.

  • @eliteschaf5697
    @eliteschaf5697 3 роки тому

    For me, the captain is fully responsible for the crash. He should have broken off the landing to discuss the problem, as the co-pilot also made the captain aware of this on several occasions. With such a problem, a successful landing cannot be guaranteed at first. The captain in Turkey has another reputation, almost like in Asia. One wrong word from the co-pilot and he is sure of his decadence to a purser, which you can tell from the voices. Very unprofessional. It was really big how you push your nose down at 500 ft without increasing the thrust, really embarrassing such a captain for this guild, sorry.

  • @Tehgoat
    @Tehgoat 6 років тому +23

    Typical Boeing
    An already acknowledged fault on other aircraft, yet they blame the pilots for being unaware of it while flying in fog
    If this had been AIrbus, they would have been more thorough in their examination, identification and actions to correct it

    • @mhrhan6530
      @mhrhan6530 6 років тому +11

      Teh Goat totally accurate.Turkish Technic requested a new radio altimeter 5 times from boeing but boeing didn't give anything them and they blamed pilots. RIP All pilots.

    • @Tehgoat
      @Tehgoat 6 років тому +12

      Any airline having to request a replacement for a faulty device five fucking times and not getting it, is diabolical; Boeing blaming the pilots is absolutely satanic
      This isn't poor customer service. It's Boeing killing people and getting away with it
      BASTARDS

    • @Tehgoat
      @Tehgoat 6 років тому +3

      excuse my language, I apologise
      Something that Boeing won't

    • @JohnDoe-xl8fr
      @JohnDoe-xl8fr 5 років тому +2

      Teh Goat Yes you are right TK should stop buying Boeing A.K.A McDonnell Douglas

    • @SnoutBaron
      @SnoutBaron 5 років тому +2

      I agree with that but also airlines should ground plane that have issues like this.

  • @andikacesatama9925
    @andikacesatama9925 6 років тому +5

    First....... Yeah

    • @partgard1
      @partgard1 6 років тому +3

      FIRST FUCKING MORON. . . . . . .Yeah

  • @happytrails699
    @happytrails699 6 років тому

    horrible

  • @angelorou2234
    @angelorou2234 6 років тому

    Can you please do El Al flight 1862?