You should read "I, Q" by John de Lancie and Peter David. I've read it many, many times and it never gets boring! The part where Q and the Grand Nagus Zek meet is hysterical.
Well dude you have to remember the Borg originated in the Delta Quadrant so the Intrepid Class U.S.S. Voyager NCC-74656 was literally in the Borg's backyard.
If you're really into that topic, i strongly recommend you read the Star Trek book "Destiny". It's the most logical and "canon" explanation for the Borgs origin. There was a species called Caeliar and the Borg were basically one of them. The whole species worked basically like a collective with a mastermind. Some timetravel and subspace stuff and the crew of the NX-02 Columbia met them in another time and some of the Caeliar went rough and enslaved the crew of the NX-02 so they became the first borg.
My head canon origin is that they are the result of Ilia and Decker initially merging in ST:TMP. Essentially, these two didn't "ascend" like the Enterprise crew assumed but transmitted back to the machine world V-ger came from and the idea of 'merging with the creator' was sadly skewed into this idea that the machines should 'assimilate' living beings.
I love the episode of TNG where Picard returns to his childhood home after being freed from Borg control. His brother Renee helps him to accept what happened so he can forgive himself and begin to move on
I think a long time ago the Borg were individuals specializing in cybernetics. However, like other species, they have wars and conflicts among themselves. Until one member decided that the cause of all conflicts is due to individual thinking (different opinions, misunderstandings, personal ambition and greed, etc). That member then decided to forcefully assimilate their entire race into one hive mind. Thus no more pain and suffering from fights and misunderstandings (since they all share their thoughts) and none of them is alone anymore. Now they have only one goal: assimilate all other species so they may incorporate their technology and grow stronger.
One question I always had about Star Trek when they're fighting the Borg the Borg can adjust the frequencies of their personal shields to block damage. My question is why use phasers when you have replicators that can literally create anyting like specifically I don't know a firearm I'd like to see a Borg put up a shield and stop a bullet
the shields would of adapted to even bullet or slug based weapons if given enough time the downfall of the one he killed in first contact was the fact that they were holo slugs which are not real but without safeties can cause major internal damage thus even bypass a shield as it was trying to adapt so unless a weapon was created that acted the same way all the time but also changed the entire make up of its energy then they could adapt to that in time this is why the modular system was put in to later federation tech it was designed to change the wavelength of the shot every one or 2 shots this would allow it to overload the adaption feature and also combining energy types also helps like combining phaser with other energy at the same time will make the adaption system fail as it cant adapt to more than one at a time
Jk: They originated from a planet called Earth when a guy named Elon Musk, invented brain implants with his Neurolink(tm) company, hooked them up to a global high speed Internet satellite network called Starlink(tm) and then used spaceships created by a company called SpaceX(tm) to initially colonize Mars and then expand to start conquering the rest of the galaxy...
The Blue Gill creatures from The Next Generation episode, Conspiracy were the intended villains that eventually became The Borg but wasn't as financially feasible to do than the Borg. The El-Aurian bartender's name is pronounced Guy nan, not guee nan Jean Luc Picard's borg name was Lo cute as I've always thought that he borg started out, much like we are now, soldiers who lost limbs in wars or people who have lost limbs in accidents, getting prosthetics to replace limbs and using powered exoskeletons to increase powers of strength I believe that this culture who became the first borg eventually would've decided that by implanting cybernetic components into heathy subjects, willing or not, they could have a more powerful military. Linking them together into a hive mind would make them easier to control and making them able to turn enemy soldiers into more of themselves would make them more powerful I suspect that the first queen arose from the technology growing faster than the creators could control it and they conquered their own creators From there, they spread out further into space, acquiring more and greater technology, territory and drones over time until it became what it did in the 34th and 25th centuries, spreading like a cancer into the galaxy, searching for a perfection that they'll never obtain because the borg don't grow, they don't create, they expand and steal They can only learn new things by assimilating it. Once they assimilate a technology, they can't improve it like we do. If the Earth was assimilated in, say, 1917, their idea of the beast aircraft would be biplanes and the best cars would be the Model T Ford. They couldn't create a jet engine, a hybrid, solar powered or hydrogen powered car. no computers, internet, television, cell phones or anything else we've came up with in the last 100 years. Which is why they did so badly in their war with Species 8472, they couldn't assimilate them, so they couldn't fight them I believe that the borg collective, even without the problems they faced with humanity over the years, is doomed to collapse some day
An early draft for the Borg was to have their origins tied (or at least implied) to V'ger from ST: TMP. Having an ultra powerful sentient computer/A.I. that travels to Earth to meet its creator and then finds out it was actually created by humans... and then wants to merge with a human (Cmdr. Decker) and becomes a new life form = The Borg.
@@clit_niblr0375 I remember the V'ger connection from the 70s, supposedly it was sucked into a wormhole or black hole and shot out to the other side of the galaxy, where a planed of sentient mechanical life forms repaired it, upgraded it and sent it back to Earth to look for it's creator I don't think they were borg as they said they were purely mechanical, not cyborgs and when V'ger, Decker and Ilia merged together, it was to allow V'ger to understand the concept of other realities and dimensions so that it could go there to acquire even more knowledge I do not think V'ger had any encounters with the Borg either before or after the events of the movie The same argument could be said with the Nomad probe from the TOS episode, The Changeling as well
I at first liked the Borg but Voyager turned them into love sick puppies (queeny baby had the hots for 7 of 9) and boy with those tight outfits so did everyone and tons of plot armor to get out of any mess. The Borg seem to have lot of cubes so why didn't they send 5 or 10 of them to take care of those pesky humans after the first try didn't work? I know, they couldn't do that because Star Trek NG would have to end the series and we can't have that. Nope. Also, the Borg seem to be smart enough to know that Perfection is impossible because they would exceed infinity which just can't be done. Not even by Q. They made the Borg to powerful but also very weak to plot armor and seeing this I lost interest in them.
The Borg are a complete rip-off of "Doctor Who"'s Cybermen. Same concept, literally. I can't believe the BBC didn't sue the snot out of Paramount or CBS or whoever-the-f*** was running it back then. I've been a trekkie since STTOS premiered, and became a devout Whovian after the current series came out (although I favor the classic DW slightly over nuWho). Just sayin' I love both franchises, but still....
Who the hell is 'Gweeenan?' Nothing makes me shut off a video faster than a mispronounciation that tells me you've never even seen the show you're educating me about. Or that you're using AI narration.
I am pretty sure he has seen it. If it is an AI it's a good one. Might just not have wanted to edit it after trying to read it. Honestly do not care. These are pretty well done and I have been watching Star Trek since the early seventies (or before).
My favorite episodes on Star Trek Next Gen where always the ones with Q and The Borg.
You should read "I, Q" by John de Lancie and Peter David. I've read it many, many times and it never gets boring! The part where Q and the Grand Nagus Zek meet is hysterical.
Well dude you have to remember the Borg originated in the Delta Quadrant so the Intrepid Class U.S.S. Voyager NCC-74656 was literally in the Borg's backyard.
You lost me at “Gwee-nin” and “The Delta Sector.”
Sadly, I've heard this mispronunciation before in UA-cam videos...
EXCELLENT review…. The writers have done good over the decades making it IMPOSSIBLE to know the true origins of the borg
If you're really into that topic, i strongly recommend you read the Star Trek book "Destiny". It's the most logical and "canon" explanation for the Borgs origin.
There was a species called Caeliar and the Borg were basically one of them. The whole species worked basically like a collective with a mastermind. Some timetravel and subspace stuff and the crew of the NX-02 Columbia met them in another time and some of the Caeliar went rough and enslaved the crew of the NX-02 so they became the first borg.
My head canon origin is that they are the result of Ilia and Decker initially merging in ST:TMP. Essentially, these two didn't "ascend" like the Enterprise crew assumed but transmitted back to the machine world V-ger came from and the idea of 'merging with the creator' was sadly skewed into this idea that the machines should 'assimilate' living beings.
Would the Borg Queen be Ilia then?
@y_knot_tri Might be. In this scenario, I'd say the Queen is more likely one of Decker and Ilia's "children".
I love the episode of TNG where Picard returns to his childhood home after being freed from Borg control. His brother Renee helps him to accept what happened so he can forgive himself and begin to move on
Renée is his nephew. Robert is his brother.
@@gmon78René. Renée is a girl's name.
The Borg is driving to acquire new technology...So, the Borg is actually the Brotherhood of steel.
More like Brotherhood of Steal ...
China
BOS is a
Mickey Mouse club compared to Borg
I think a long time ago the Borg were individuals specializing in cybernetics. However, like other species, they have wars and conflicts among themselves. Until one member decided that the cause of all conflicts is due to individual thinking (different opinions, misunderstandings, personal ambition and greed, etc). That member then decided to forcefully assimilate their entire race into one hive mind. Thus no more pain and suffering from fights and misunderstandings (since they all share their thoughts) and none of them is alone anymore. Now they have only one goal: assimilate all other species so they may incorporate their technology and grow stronger.
SEVERAL STAR TREK MOVIES??? The Borg have been in ONE Star Trek movie. First Contact.
Another great video! 👏✨✨
I like that humans become more and more borg, finaly we bcome one .
the Federation is like Borg
and Borg is like the Federation .
Spot on
The way this video pronounced Guinan makes me think its not a human narrating?
It's the Borg
One question I always had about Star Trek when they're fighting the Borg the Borg can adjust the frequencies of their personal shields to block damage. My question is why use phasers when you have replicators that can literally create anyting like specifically I don't know a firearm I'd like to see a Borg put up a shield and stop a bullet
Picard used a Tommygun to destroy a drone once.
@@bursegsardaukar He did that in "First Contact."
the shields would of adapted to even bullet or slug based weapons if given enough time the downfall of the one he killed in first contact was the fact that they were holo slugs which are not real but without safeties can cause major internal damage thus even bypass a shield as it was trying to adapt so unless a weapon was created that acted the same way all the time but also changed the entire make up of its energy then they could adapt to that in time this is why the modular system was put in to later federation tech it was designed to change the wavelength of the shot every one or 2 shots this would allow it to overload the adaption feature and also combining energy types also helps like combining phaser with other energy at the same time will make the adaption system fail as it cant adapt to more than one at a time
I would claim ownership of that hive. They want to get inside my mind? Godspeed.
I wish they would give a origins story but one that works that everyone enjoys, make it canon
Nice
After seeing what seven of nine can contribute to Voyager. I think the Borg are amazing species.
Jk: They originated from a planet called Earth when a guy named Elon Musk, invented brain implants with his Neurolink(tm) company, hooked them up to a global high speed Internet satellite network called Starlink(tm) and then used spaceships created by a company called SpaceX(tm) to initially colonize Mars and then expand to start conquering the rest of the galaxy...
I wish the AI could pronounce the names of characters correctly
Gweenan 😂
Thank you ☺️
Origin of dark horse comics ghost, gunna sijurvald, moondragon and Sakura kasaungano
Are these voiced by AI? Who covers Star Trek and doesn’t know how to pronounce Guinan ?
Voiced by the Borg
Resistance is furtile.
The Blue Gill creatures from The Next Generation episode, Conspiracy were the intended villains that eventually became The Borg but wasn't as financially feasible to do than the Borg.
The El-Aurian bartender's name is pronounced Guy nan, not guee nan
Jean Luc Picard's borg name was Lo cute as
I've always thought that he borg started out, much like we are now, soldiers who lost limbs in wars or people who have lost limbs in accidents, getting prosthetics to replace limbs and using powered exoskeletons to increase powers of strength
I believe that this culture who became the first borg eventually would've decided that by implanting cybernetic components into heathy subjects, willing or not, they could have a more powerful military. Linking them together into a hive mind would make them easier to control and making them able to turn enemy soldiers into more of themselves would make them more powerful
I suspect that the first queen arose from the technology growing faster than the creators could control it and they conquered their own creators
From there, they spread out further into space, acquiring more and greater technology, territory and drones over time until it became what it did in the 34th and 25th centuries, spreading like a cancer into the galaxy, searching for a perfection that they'll never obtain because the borg don't grow, they don't create, they expand and steal
They can only learn new things by assimilating it. Once they assimilate a technology, they can't improve it like we do.
If the Earth was assimilated in, say, 1917, their idea of the beast aircraft would be biplanes and the best cars would be the Model T Ford. They couldn't create a jet engine, a hybrid, solar powered or hydrogen powered car. no computers, internet, television, cell phones or anything else we've came up with in the last 100 years.
Which is why they did so badly in their war with Species 8472, they couldn't assimilate them, so they couldn't fight them
I believe that the borg collective, even without the problems they faced with humanity over the years, is doomed to collapse some day
An early draft for the Borg was to have their origins tied (or at least implied) to V'ger from ST: TMP. Having an ultra powerful sentient computer/A.I. that travels to Earth to meet its creator and then finds out it was actually created by humans... and then wants to merge with a human (Cmdr. Decker) and becomes a new life form = The Borg.
@@clit_niblr0375 I remember the V'ger connection from the 70s, supposedly it was sucked into a wormhole or black hole and shot out to the other side of the galaxy, where a planed of sentient mechanical life forms repaired it, upgraded it and sent it back to Earth to look for it's creator
I don't think they were borg as they said they were purely mechanical, not cyborgs and when V'ger, Decker and Ilia merged together, it was to allow V'ger to understand the concept of other realities and dimensions so that it could go there to acquire even more knowledge
I do not think V'ger had any encounters with the Borg either before or after the events of the movie
The same argument could be said with the Nomad probe from the TOS episode, The Changeling as well
So…. As good as these are I’m a little remiss to the fact we have seen any updated info from Picard.
I at first liked the Borg but Voyager turned them into love sick puppies (queeny baby had the hots for 7 of 9) and boy with those tight outfits so did everyone and tons of plot armor to get out of any mess.
The Borg seem to have lot of cubes so why didn't they send 5 or 10 of them to take care of those pesky humans after the first try didn't work? I know, they couldn't do that because Star Trek NG would have to end the series and we can't have that. Nope.
Also, the Borg seem to be smart enough to know that Perfection is impossible because they would exceed infinity which just can't be done. Not even by Q.
They made the Borg to powerful but also very weak to plot armor and seeing this I lost interest in them.
Where are the orgins?
The Borg are a complete rip-off of "Doctor Who"'s Cybermen. Same concept, literally. I can't believe the BBC didn't sue the snot out of Paramount or CBS or whoever-the-f*** was running it back then. I've been a trekkie since STTOS premiered, and became a devout Whovian after the current series came out (although I favor the classic DW slightly over nuWho). Just sayin' I love both franchises, but still....
Please improve the thumbnail it's not futuristic
GUY-nan learn to pronounce it right
Who the hell is 'Gweeenan?'
Nothing makes me shut off a video faster than a mispronounciation that tells me you've never even seen the show you're educating me about. Or that you're using AI narration.
I am pretty sure he has seen it. If it is an AI it's a good one. Might just not have wanted to edit it after trying to read it. Honestly do not care. These are pretty well done and I have been watching Star Trek since the early seventies (or before).
"Origin of the borg" I think you mean "one minute repeating old information and then just infomation everyone knows"