@@OtoKano I use it for moody pine scenery. Its got a great moody evergreenish feel to it sometimes. Then I use a teeny bit of Perylene to shade the Davy's Green (It's actually my favorite green! which makes it funny that I don't have a professional line one of it!)
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It was very enjoyable to watch this video, I especially liked how chill and casual it felt, like a hangout with a good friend. Lower are my impressions on the watercolours. Thank you for reading such a long comment : ) I was surprised by how many Cadmium colours there are in this brand, they are really invested in them. Also I was debating on what the N/A is next to the pigment, and closer to the middle of the video I noticed that they put ASTM light fastness ratings there, and N/A simply means not rated by ASTM, I checked a few colours and it was exactly matching the ASTM ratings where applicable, and saying N/A for non rated pigments. That was a relief, I didn't want to buy paints with unknown pigments, now I know it was just light fastness. It is cool to see a brand honestly puting ASTM ratings next to their own rating system. It was surprising to see PG17 Chromium Green so hard to re-wet, I have this colour (same pigment) by Grumbacher Academy, and it is very easy to re-wet and it is fairly strong, nothing like Shinhan PWC version. Cerulean Blue was very impressive though, really like it's hue and granulation. That Burnt Sienna is fire! That can be my next impulse buy. Well... lets be honest, I want quite a few colours now. On the topic of multi-pigment colours: I like to see what colours different manufacturers mix, and if I have the same pigments in my collection - I try to mix it myself. I love mixing colours, so I only buy single pigment paints, and use multi-pigment colours in the charts as a reference to what I can make myself, because often manufacturers mix something really cool and unexpected.
Their indigo is one of my favourite colours. I'd been looking for a single pigment version of the colour since most brands make their indigo out of two or three pigments. I've been debating building a palette of Shinhan colours and this video has convinced me, the colours look so beautiful!
Love this video, and was about to buy the Indigo, but then I remembered PB66 is a FUGITIVE (ie fading) paint. Fwiw, Winsor-Newton's Paynes Gray is my favorite indigo color, which I use almost exclusively in my watercolors of NY subway scenes. From Shin Han's own information: "Indigo is fugitive. Indigoid Blue is the famous blue dye used in many blue jeans and other denim products, famous for the way it fades! Although a few paint manufacturers offer a genuine indigo color based on PB66, it should be used only for applications that are not permanent, or where the color is required for historic reasons. Most paint manufacturers replicate this historic hue with other more permanent pigments."
I had a ton of fun when I swatched my PWC dot card. Like, I low-key want to buy another one just for the hell of it 😅 The Roman numerals and N/A next to the pigment codes are lightfastness ratings of the individual pigments, iirc. It's explained in the grey column on the right side, and there's even some info on how the lightfastness testing was done on the back! (Edit: yep, I = ASTM Excellent, II = ASTM Very Good, and N/A usually means not applicable, in this case probably not rated by ASTM) The blue "hues" had me facepalming, yeah, they're nowhere near close, and I agree about the viridian situation.
Yes, the third language is german and yes, hell means light (adjectiv); by the way rotocker is one of those cases where germans just fused two words together so it's actually rot (red) ocker (ochre)
As far as I can tell the N/A after the pigments isn't a mystery pigment, but rather the ASTM rating for the individual pigment which is why some have a I or II next to them.
Ooohh, this feels wicked ahead of schedule, but I won't complain! As always, your objective feedback is sincerely appreciated. ❤ At least from what I see on this video - Ultramarine Light vs. Deep seems to be much like Finest vs. French. It may not seem that way in person? But I'd imagine the degree of their differences being comparable. If that makes sense. Purely speculation though
I think it's hard to tell the difference on the dotcard. To be honest the paper the dotcard is made of is not the best, it pulps up really fast, and it feels like the paint just soaks through. I'm going to swatch out the 32 color set they sent me on my swatch cards so I will see how those turn out.
i usually get different shades of ultramarine like light or green for one of two reasons depending on its qualities: as someome who doesnt use (or at least tries not to use) any toxic colors like cobalts, but still loves blues very much i sometimes get ultramarine light/green shade as a cobalt replacement of sorts (i know its not that similar but it satisfies my need for another granulating blue) and if i know i am making a bigger palette i also opt for two ultramarines, one very granulating (so french or deep one) and one that doesnt granulate much ( finest or light) so i could have a choice whether i mix with granulating warm blue or not, since i rarely ever find phthalo blue warm shades warm enough
It’s worth noting that both Vermillion and Vermillion Hue are also the same pigment. I think they must have been different at first, and as the genuine pigments became too scarce they duplicated the hue instead of eliminating the colour altogether.
Right now I have their Permanent Rose, Permanent Yellow Light, and Peacock Blue. They're really vibrant and layer well (in moderately diluted washes). I bought a separate synthetic ox gall (QOR) to make them explode in water and it works incredibly well! I think having a separate medium to aid in flow is better because when I'm trying to paint portraits, I don't want paint acting wild on paper. I'm also getting three other colors Ultramarine Deep, Vermillion Hue, and Burnt Umber. From what I've learnt in color theory, I would be able to mix most of the colors I want from just 6 colors.
Whoop whoop for the not video. I love your reason. Wish more people took this approach. Loving the Shinhan swatches ... might need to go over to Jackson’s for a looksy
ShinHan is one of my favorite brand, especially here in canada it offer a great range of professional color at a way better price point then Holbein or Daniel Smith. I'm so happy to see you enjoy my favorite colors from them as well! (Peacock Green and Indigo)
glad they sent you the dot chart :) the lighting wasn't perfect in my swatching vid of this chart too lol. observations: seems like the paper really does have little to no sizing because i experienced the same issue with immediate absorbance and colour shift, PG17 on my chart was also hard to rewet and low-tinting but i recently got their student grade PG17 and it rewetted easily with moderate tinting strength, the PV14 actually granulates very beautifully- i have a half pan of it :)
Yeah, I definitely noticed a difference when I swatched them on watercolor paper vs the paper the dots come on. It's good enough to give an idea and I'll still keep it for reference, but it's definitely more fun to play with the paints on proper paper!
Thank you, it's really good to know that it's not just me that feels that the paper is a little iffy. It's a shame because I would think choosing good paper for dotcards would benefit presenting the paint well.
thank you so much for this video oto!!! shinhan pwc paints are quite affordable (especially per ml) on jackson's in the uk, so i was contemplating buying some to try when my exams are over and i have more time to paint. watching you paint them out and talk about your observations is really helpful (and also really relaxing!) so i'm really really grateful for this :D
Thank you so much for the swatching! I've thought about getting a few colors and I will definitely refer back to this video when it's time to select the colors. I'm amazed you pulled this off although you've been going through depression phase. Take care of yourself. Thank you for the quality content.
You were in full flow talking about Indian cow urine and in the next sentence you said I’m just going to take a drink. Wow! That took me a second to realize you were done talking about cow stuff! 😂😂😂
Hi Oto! Thank you for this video!! I was intrigued by this line of watercolours and have been using some of their colours for a while. I found it super vibrant, easy to rewet and above all, really affordable. HOWEVER, unlike most brands, Shinhan has made some questionable choices that, if not mistranslations, seem kind of shady. The most important one in my opinion, would be the unreliable lightfastness ratings, which I know from experience, are not to be trusted. Maybe this chart could be used after this video as a lightfastness test?? I know I'd love to have info on the reliability of the whole line, since it is a fun, cheap brand available in a lot of places. Thank you as usual for creating this super interesting content. :)
I thought to write that message after hearing you comment on some of the colours that I know are not permanent, like their indigo or a huge number of their reds. A single pigment Hooker's green sounds tempting, but it PG8 will fade super quickly. Other things I've found weird from this brand would be actually charging more for the same pigment (PG7) simply because they removed the word "hue"; calling yellow ochre "Aureolin"; naming a "cobalt" green actually made from nickel titianate, and the mess of calling their student line "professional". I don't want to dismiss them off the bat. I am lucky to speak French and I see some of the complains people have with Sennelier can be mistranslations or cultural information missing. I would love it if a korean speaker actually took me through some of the most confounding name choices in Shinhan's PWC.
Most of the pwc range seem to be multi-pigment. Might make mixing your own mixes difficult - possibly why they have created so many incremental hues of their colours, making it easy for students who don't want to learn to mix? Their professional range is Shinnhan Professional Watercolour and has 30 single pigment colours. The PWC range is Extra Fine Artists Watercolour. Their basic range of 24 colours is called SHAMI watercolour. From www.shinhanart.com/eng/product/product_water.php
To be honest, no lightfastness scale offered by any brand can nor should be trusted 100%. I look at any brand and find at least one color that I'm like 'really????' This is why if you are using paints for you to sell on, you should always do your own lightfastness.
Really enjoyed this, much brighter than i was expecting. I'm a fan of opera myself, and it's hard to find one that doesn't have magenta added (so they can add a star for lightfastness). I'd rather have the super bright color than a lightfast but duller version. Thanks!
I bet Davy's grey would be useful for foggy seascapes or that sagey shade of lichen. I have so many questions about the listed pigments on this chart. Very, very strange.
I recently bought and swatched this same card! 😂 After having used their old SWC range and liked those I was quite disappointed by them by comparison to the old range. The Opera shade especially which is much less bright and based only on a dye and uses no pigment at all do will disappear very quickly with exposure to light. I also noticed clear pigment code errors for some of the shades on the card, there are multiple different versions of phthalo blue but one is directly called phthalo blue r/s and gives the pigment code for ultramarine which it definitely isn't. I'm always a bit confused by vermilion and vermilion hue (there's a viridian and viridian hue too) in these brands as neither is the genuine pigment they are both hues!
I would do a trio of Cadmium Green Pale, Cobalt Green, and Vermilion on this set! Swoon! The Olive here is MEH., but I agree on the lovely Indigo! Also, two sock feet up in solidarity of the July depression series. Every. Single. Stinking. Year. 🙌
DS has a deep sap green I quite like, but PG8 is my favorite dark green.... unfortunately totally fugitive as you know :p Shinhan's seems to be lighter than White Nights version though.
I'm really baffled by their naming decisions - they have four or so paints with alizarin crimson/PR83 in them named various things, then the one they have named alizarin crimson is PR23, a Napthol pigment. Vermilion is PR106 - what they have there named as Vermilion is a mix of cadmium red/PR108 and cadmium orange/PO20. I feel like they're just drawing names out of a hat and assigning them at random :P
ShinHan's not so well - known for their watercolours here in Germany at least I didn't know they make watercolours as well ^^' What I know them for, though, is their alcohol markers which I got two boxes of :) These look glorious, though 🥰
I think it's interesting to see Davy's Grey in the Shinhan PWC line, too. I didn't do research on that color but it has a purpose in mixing, I think. Maybe it's used as a "short cut" like Neutral Tint and Payne's Grey. But over all I have a good first impression of the brand (by watching). I think it's funny to translate Light Red into German , "Rotocker hell", and than back to English. It would be something like "Red Ochre Light". It's a language thing. We would translate the german words more accurate, I think. Especially if you would buy a tube online (german art supply online-shop) and there's just the german word for a color. It's just sometimes a translation issue.
If I'm not mistaken N/A pigments are pigments that aren't attributed to a color index number, that might be for various reasons. For example minerals like Jarosite don't have a color index number but are decently used in paint making. A pigment being part of the index is mostly to make it well known what is the chemical composition of the pigment and how its made, so it's easier to make sure all pigments with the color index number are the same. Its more related to making a pigment a product that can be manufactured. So it's not that ShinHan aren't listing all the pigments it's more that they're using a lot of pigments that aren't officially part of the color index.
@@larisasevryukova9792 ooh looking back I think your right. It definitely gets a bit confusing especially when they have more then one pigment and the N/A comes right after.
I read this right as I was at the cadmium greens, here N/A is in-between two pigment codes, so I think at least in some cases it is a pigment, though that still doesn't help with the paints that have no light-fastness rating. Edit: it seems they have a light-fastness rating after each pigment, so I guess that's not the case... Still confusing.
Oto, that last color, Bright Rose - was the Pigment number BR12? I'm guessing that is just as fugitive as Opera? Also, as far as my experience with Shinhan, I have ordered one tube for a class on Skillshare - that gorgeous Royal Blue and it is performing really well. Dries overnight in my ceramic palette and rewets the next day easily. Pigment load is strong, mixes well with everyone in the sandbox (haha) and no drying shift. After watching this, I have made my list and know which ones to buy now - I like them!
What a beautiful masterpiece. Enjoyed watching u paint. It’s so aesthetically pleasing. Btw New friend here sending all the love and support u need for your Ch. hope we can connect!
These are the only paint that is available pretty much everywhere, that i haven't tried or even wanted to try. Not that i have heard bad things....its just that they dont seem like they are worth the price they sell for here in America. They always seem opaque when i see them
Thanks for a great video! I love Shinhan! I recently got their Tints A and B, and a few other pastelly colors, and they are so lovely. Now after this video I have 21 tubes in my cart in my favourite art store. The price in Sweden is more than reasonable, so I will probably hit the buy button in a few minutes. This video didn't help with that, haha... :D
thanks for that video! I was considering buying some of these, but for me they look really underwhelming unfurtunately :/ especially that Hooker's Green, which is not at all Hooker's green.
It is a little sad, your homepage doesn't show your artwork. You seem to do different, colourful work. I would love to see those. Or maybe you are showing them, but on a different plattform?
Yes, in German hell is the adjective for bright or light. Rot (LONG O) is red; Rotocker just means red ochre. And here it's made into a noun- you can stick anything together to make new nouns: das Arbeitslosensunterstuetztungsgeld is what we call the dole (workloserssupportmoney)!! German is easy-peasy and totally endearing. I am sorry it has such a bad press... but that's just life and there's a reason for everything in the end.
Also why is Phthalo Blue red shade labeled as PB29? that's a mistake surely? And can we talk about the fact that neutral tint and payne's grey contain PB66? I find their pigment choices a bit strange in places. Also they use PV3 for "permanent violet" instead of 23, while mineral violet uses PV23. So strange.
Davys grey is good for painting rosemary or anything botanical thats a sage green color. Sometimes I'll add a touch of buff titanium too.
Wooo thank you! that's super useful to know.
@@OtoKano I use it for moody pine scenery. Its got a great moody evergreenish feel to it sometimes. Then I use a teeny bit of Perylene to shade the Davy's Green (It's actually my favorite green! which makes it funny that I don't have a professional line one of it!)
"sad they don't have a burnt umber"
sorry for the tease, i'm sure with that many colors i'd miss it too but i just thought it was funny
bwahahahaha thank you for pointing that out! Yeah it got bit overwhelming and hard to track after about half an hour in😅
I was cracking up too! Quite relatable 😂🥰
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It was very enjoyable to watch this video, I especially liked how chill and casual it felt, like a hangout with a good friend. Lower are my impressions on the watercolours. Thank you for reading such a long comment : )
I was surprised by how many Cadmium colours there are in this brand, they are really invested in them. Also I was debating on what the N/A is next to the pigment, and closer to the middle of the video I noticed that they put ASTM light fastness ratings there, and N/A simply means not rated by ASTM, I checked a few colours and it was exactly matching the ASTM ratings where applicable, and saying N/A for non rated pigments. That was a relief, I didn't want to buy paints with unknown pigments, now I know it was just light fastness. It is cool to see a brand honestly puting ASTM ratings next to their own rating system.
It was surprising to see PG17 Chromium Green so hard to re-wet, I have this colour (same pigment) by Grumbacher Academy, and it is very easy to re-wet and it is fairly strong, nothing like Shinhan PWC version.
Cerulean Blue was very impressive though, really like it's hue and granulation. That Burnt Sienna is fire! That can be my next impulse buy. Well... lets be honest, I want quite a few colours now.
On the topic of multi-pigment colours: I like to see what colours different manufacturers mix, and if I have the same pigments in my collection - I try to mix it myself. I love mixing colours, so I only buy single pigment paints, and use multi-pigment colours in the charts as a reference to what I can make myself, because often manufacturers mix something really cool and unexpected.
Their indigo is one of my favourite colours. I'd been looking for a single pigment version of the colour since most brands make their indigo out of two or three pigments. I've been debating building a palette of Shinhan colours and this video has convinced me, the colours look so beautiful!
I have a Shinhan PWC palette and it's just wonderful. Vibrant, extremely easy to rewet, and very affordable!
wooo please share with us your palette when you put it together :D
@soup4frogs maimeriblu has single pigment indigo
Love this video, and was about to buy the Indigo, but then I remembered PB66 is a FUGITIVE (ie fading) paint. Fwiw, Winsor-Newton's Paynes Gray is my favorite indigo color, which I use almost exclusively in my watercolors of NY subway scenes. From Shin Han's own information: "Indigo is fugitive. Indigoid Blue is the famous blue dye used in many blue jeans and other denim products, famous for the way it fades! Although a few paint manufacturers offer a genuine indigo color based on PB66, it should be used only for applications that are not permanent, or where the color is required for historic reasons. Most paint manufacturers replicate this historic hue with other more permanent pigments."
That mention of a permanent alizarin crimson video has me excited!! You make such amazing videos!! Thank you for all your content ❣️
I had a ton of fun when I swatched my PWC dot card. Like, I low-key want to buy another one just for the hell of it 😅
The Roman numerals and N/A next to the pigment codes are lightfastness ratings of the individual pigments, iirc. It's explained in the grey column on the right side, and there's even some info on how the lightfastness testing was done on the back! (Edit: yep, I = ASTM Excellent, II = ASTM Very Good, and N/A usually means not applicable, in this case probably not rated by ASTM)
The blue "hues" had me facepalming, yeah, they're nowhere near close, and I agree about the viridian situation.
Totally understand why you would want to buy another one :D
Yes, the third language is german and yes, hell means light (adjectiv); by the way rotocker is one of those cases where germans just fused two words together so it's actually rot (red) ocker (ochre)
Shinhan in Korea is known as a good affordable brand suitable for art students
But is that professional or pwc
Even the pwc?
After research pwc is not sold in Korea tho. I've used professional as a student and they were decent
@@florenceryu8648 I think it’s sold as swc in korea? That’s what I’ve seen from other artists, I think.
As far as I can tell the N/A after the pigments isn't a mystery pigment, but rather the ASTM rating for the individual pigment which is why some have a I or II next to them.
these swatching videos are a treat! They`re so relaxing and seeing all these gorgeous colors makes me happy! c:
Ooohh, this feels wicked ahead of schedule, but I won't complain!
As always, your objective feedback is sincerely appreciated. ❤
At least from what I see on this video - Ultramarine Light vs. Deep seems to be much like Finest vs. French. It may not seem that way in person? But I'd imagine the degree of their differences being comparable. If that makes sense. Purely speculation though
I think it's hard to tell the difference on the dotcard. To be honest the paper the dotcard is made of is not the best, it pulps up really fast, and it feels like the paint just soaks through. I'm going to swatch out the 32 color set they sent me on my swatch cards so I will see how those turn out.
@@OtoKano ooohh I look forward to seeing!
Your videos are so soothing. I love them.
Glad you like them!
The DEDICATION to do this! Thank you!
Thanks for taking the time to do this. It's very helpful!
Yes, on the permanent alizarin crimsons! Will be sure to watch that one.
i usually get different shades of ultramarine like light or green for one of two reasons depending on its qualities:
as someome who doesnt use (or at least tries not to use) any toxic colors like cobalts, but still loves blues very much i sometimes get ultramarine light/green shade as a cobalt replacement of sorts (i know its not that similar but it satisfies my need for another granulating blue)
and if i know i am making a bigger palette i also opt for two ultramarines, one very granulating (so french or deep one) and one that doesnt granulate much ( finest or light) so i could have a choice whether i mix with granulating warm blue or not, since i rarely ever find phthalo blue warm shades warm enough
It seems like forever since I’ve seen swatches. So beautiful. Thank you so much.
LOVED THIS ♥
Too many nice, unique colors/mixes, I'm gonna have to check it out!
I think Daniel Smith also has a genuine vandyke brown..? maybe?
Oui, yes ! A PBr7 !
@@chrissie4452 PBr7 is not a genuine Van Dyke Brown.
@@chrissie4452 Genuine Van Dyke Brown is NBr 8, not PBr 7 :)
Idk about DS, but Holbein has an NBr 8 Van Dyke brown!
Thank you for taking the time to do this!
Let's just appreciate that she did an 1 hour video painting.
Imma b real w you Doctor I am not pronouncing it as Pee-roll red
PIE-role Red it is for me too. Just like my ARCH-es paper. Won't every be putting any Pee-roll Red on my ARSH-es paper. No-Sir-Ee. :D
you can say it however you want :)
That was fun, Oto. I felt like I was just hanging out with you and a bunch of fellow pigment nerds. Relaxing and informative. Thanks!
It’s worth noting that both Vermillion and Vermillion Hue are also the same pigment. I think they must have been different at first, and as the genuine pigments became too scarce they duplicated the hue instead of eliminating the colour altogether.
You're right, I AM proud of you! So professional! Much indigo glee! :D
Right now I have their Permanent Rose, Permanent Yellow Light, and Peacock Blue. They're really vibrant and layer well (in moderately diluted washes). I bought a separate synthetic ox gall (QOR) to make them explode in water and it works incredibly well! I think having a separate medium to aid in flow is better because when I'm trying to paint portraits, I don't want paint acting wild on paper. I'm also getting three other colors Ultramarine Deep, Vermillion Hue, and Burnt Umber. From what I've learnt in color theory, I would be able to mix most of the colors I want from just 6 colors.
Ultramarine Deep is more granulating than Light. I have several tubes of the Deep - it is one of my favorites of any brand.
Whoop whoop for the not video. I love your reason. Wish more people took this approach.
Loving the Shinhan swatches ... might need to go over to Jackson’s for a looksy
ShinHan is one of my favorite brand, especially here in canada it offer a great range of professional color at a way better price point then Holbein or Daniel Smith. I'm so happy to see you enjoy my favorite colors from them as well! (Peacock Green and Indigo)
I have a Sepia from Kremer pigments that I made and BOI when Sepia decides to granulate, it granulated like heck. I love it 😻
glad they sent you the dot chart :) the lighting wasn't perfect in my swatching vid of this chart too lol. observations: seems like the paper really does have little to no sizing because i experienced the same issue with immediate absorbance and colour shift, PG17 on my chart was also hard to rewet and low-tinting but i recently got their student grade PG17 and it rewetted easily with moderate tinting strength, the PV14 actually granulates very beautifully- i have a half pan of it :)
Yeah, I definitely noticed a difference when I swatched them on watercolor paper vs the paper the dots come on. It's good enough to give an idea and I'll still keep it for reference, but it's definitely more fun to play with the paints on proper paper!
@@FaerieDust wow, glad to know my instincts weren’t wrong. thanks for sharing!
Thank you, it's really good to know that it's not just me that feels that the paper is a little iffy. It's a shame because I would think choosing good paper for dotcards would benefit presenting the paint well.
That was very interesting, a pleasure for the eyes and the ears... Take care, go walk despite of the rain, greens are greener, spring is blooming :)
thank you so much for this video oto!!! shinhan pwc paints are quite affordable (especially per ml) on jackson's in the uk, so i was contemplating buying some to try when my exams are over and i have more time to paint. watching you paint them out and talk about your observations is really helpful (and also really relaxing!) so i'm really really grateful for this :D
yay I hope you get through your exams quickly and get to enjoy these paints :D
Roman szmals have a NBr8 Van dyke brown 🙂
Thank you so much for the swatching! I've thought about getting a few colors and I will definitely refer back to this video when it's time to select the colors. I'm amazed you pulled this off although you've been going through depression phase. Take care of yourself. Thank you for the quality content.
Another live swatching would be wonderful.
You were in full flow talking about Indian cow urine and in the next sentence you said I’m just going to take a drink. Wow! That took me a second to realize you were done talking about cow stuff! 😂😂😂
Love the dedication to the passion! Thank you!
you're so welcome, thanks for watching :)
Hi Oto! Thank you for this video!! I was intrigued by this line of watercolours and have been using some of their colours for a while. I found it super vibrant, easy to rewet and above all, really affordable. HOWEVER, unlike most brands, Shinhan has made some questionable choices that, if not mistranslations, seem kind of shady.
The most important one in my opinion, would be the unreliable lightfastness ratings, which I know from experience, are not to be trusted. Maybe this chart could be used after this video as a lightfastness test?? I know I'd love to have info on the reliability of the whole line, since it is a fun, cheap brand available in a lot of places.
Thank you as usual for creating this super interesting content. :)
I thought to write that message after hearing you comment on some of the colours that I know are not permanent, like their indigo or a huge number of their reds. A single pigment Hooker's green sounds tempting, but it PG8 will fade super quickly.
Other things I've found weird from this brand would be actually charging more for the same pigment (PG7) simply because they removed the word "hue"; calling yellow ochre "Aureolin"; naming a "cobalt" green actually made from nickel titianate, and the mess of calling their student line "professional".
I don't want to dismiss them off the bat. I am lucky to speak French and I see some of the complains people have with Sennelier can be mistranslations or cultural information missing. I would love it if a korean speaker actually took me through some of the most confounding name choices in Shinhan's PWC.
Most of the pwc range seem to be multi-pigment. Might make mixing your own mixes difficult - possibly why they have created so many incremental hues of their colours, making it easy for students who don't want to learn to mix?
Their professional range is Shinnhan Professional Watercolour and has 30 single pigment colours.
The PWC range is Extra Fine Artists Watercolour.
Their basic range of 24 colours is called SHAMI watercolour.
From www.shinhanart.com/eng/product/product_water.php
To be honest, no lightfastness scale offered by any brand can nor should be trusted 100%. I look at any brand and find at least one color that I'm like 'really????' This is why if you are using paints for you to sell on, you should always do your own lightfastness.
Really enjoyed this, much brighter than i was expecting. I'm a fan of opera myself, and it's hard to find one that doesn't have magenta added (so they can add a star for lightfastness). I'd rather have the super bright color than a lightfast but duller version. Thanks!
Totally know what you mean, it's great to have such a bright opera!
I bet Davy's grey would be useful for foggy seascapes or that sagey shade of lichen.
I have so many questions about the listed pigments on this chart. Very, very strange.
I recently bought and swatched this same card! 😂
After having used their old SWC range and liked those I was quite disappointed by them by comparison to the old range. The Opera shade especially which is much less bright and based only on a dye and uses no pigment at all do will disappear very quickly with exposure to light.
I also noticed clear pigment code errors for some of the shades on the card, there are multiple different versions of phthalo blue but one is directly called phthalo blue r/s and gives the pigment code for ultramarine which it definitely isn't.
I'm always a bit confused by vermilion and vermilion hue (there's a viridian and viridian hue too) in these brands as neither is the genuine pigment they are both hues!
You are fantastic! Thank you for the education, as always 💜
This just great! I am at work, but I will watch it as soon as I get home. I have Shinhan hybrid gouache, and I want to try PWC very much too.
so many pretty colors! thank you so much, these videos are so fun to watch 🥰
You are so welcome!
I would do a trio of Cadmium Green Pale, Cobalt Green, and Vermilion on this set! Swoon! The Olive here is MEH., but I agree on the lovely Indigo! Also, two sock feet up in solidarity of the July depression series. Every. Single. Stinking. Year. 🙌
663 "Rotocker Hell" is German, it means red Ochre light
DS has a deep sap green I quite like, but PG8 is my favorite dark green.... unfortunately totally fugitive as you know :p Shinhan's seems to be lighter than White Nights version though.
Very helpful video! Thank you for the uplaod and sharing. :^)
This was really helpful, thank you so much!
I'm really baffled by their naming decisions - they have four or so paints with alizarin crimson/PR83 in them named various things, then the one they have named alizarin crimson is PR23, a Napthol pigment. Vermilion is PR106 - what they have there named as Vermilion is a mix of cadmium red/PR108 and cadmium orange/PO20. I feel like they're just drawing names out of a hat and assigning them at random :P
ShinHan's not so well - known for their watercolours here in Germany at least I didn't know they make watercolours as well ^^' What I know them for, though, is their alcohol markers which I got two boxes of :) These look glorious, though 🥰
How does this compare to mission gold or schmincke?
I think it's interesting to see Davy's Grey in the Shinhan PWC line, too.
I didn't do research on that color but it has a purpose in mixing, I think. Maybe it's used as a "short cut" like Neutral Tint and Payne's Grey. But over all I have a good first impression of the brand (by watching).
I think it's funny to translate Light Red into German , "Rotocker hell", and than back to English. It would be something like "Red Ochre Light". It's a language thing. We would translate the german words more accurate, I think. Especially if you would buy a tube online (german art supply online-shop) and there's just the german word for a color. It's just sometimes a translation issue.
I think they are missing a rich rubine red like Roman Szmal's Pyrrole Rubine, which I love. On the other hand I like ShinHan's indigo a lot.
Very impressed....
If I'm not mistaken N/A pigments are pigments that aren't attributed to a color index number, that might be for various reasons. For example minerals like Jarosite don't have a color index number but are decently used in paint making. A pigment being part of the index is mostly to make it well known what is the chemical composition of the pigment and how its made, so it's easier to make sure all pigments with the color index number are the same. Its more related to making a pigment a product that can be manufactured.
So it's not that ShinHan aren't listing all the pigments it's more that they're using a lot of pigments that aren't officially part of the color index.
I think they have I, II and N/A for ASTM lightfastness raitings. It's confusing because it goes after tne pigment name.
@@larisasevryukova9792 ooh looking back I think your right. It definitely gets a bit confusing especially when they have more then one pigment and the N/A comes right after.
yeah it got really confusing because there isn't even a space or a comma to separate the two set of info :/
I read this right as I was at the cadmium greens, here N/A is in-between two pigment codes, so I think at least in some cases it is a pigment, though that still doesn't help with the paints that have no light-fastness rating.
Edit: it seems they have a light-fastness rating after each pigment, so I guess that's not the case... Still confusing.
Oto, that last color, Bright Rose - was the Pigment number BR12? I'm guessing that is just as fugitive as Opera? Also, as far as my experience with Shinhan, I have ordered one tube for a class on Skillshare - that gorgeous Royal Blue and it is performing really well. Dries overnight in my ceramic palette and rewets the next day easily. Pigment load is strong, mixes well with everyone in the sandbox (haha) and no drying shift. After watching this, I have made my list and know which ones to buy now - I like them!
Yeah any pigment starting with the letter B instead of P will be fugitive. That Royal blue is such a gorgeous color, what a great choice!
Some of the pigment numbers are quite unexpected. I wonder if they are all accurate
Thanks. Please can you explain what means the N/A letter in color 504. Is it related with transparency?
I believe it means the pigment hasn't been rated by ASTM for lightfastness testing
top- Spanish, mid- french and bottom is german
Yay, thank you for letting me know.
Great Video!!
What a beautiful masterpiece. Enjoyed watching u paint. It’s so aesthetically pleasing. Btw New friend here sending all the love and support u need for your Ch. hope we can connect!
Thank you for visiting this channel :D
These are the only paint that is available pretty much everywhere, that i haven't tried or even wanted to try. Not that i have heard bad things....its just that they dont seem like they are worth the price they sell for here in America. They always seem opaque when i see them
Davy's gray is great for moss
Thanks for a great video! I love Shinhan! I recently got their Tints A and B, and a few other pastelly colors, and they are so lovely. Now after this video I have 21 tubes in my cart in my favourite art store. The price in Sweden is more than reasonable, so I will probably hit the buy button in a few minutes. This video didn't help with that, haha... :D
wooo I hope you have a wonderful time getting to know your new paints!
thanks for that video! I was considering buying some of these, but for me they look really underwhelming unfurtunately :/ especially that Hooker's Green, which is not at all Hooker's green.
and also "hthalo blue red shade" being pb29 just blew my mind, not in a good way :(
It is a little sad, your homepage doesn't show your artwork. You seem to do different, colourful work. I would love to see those. Or maybe you are showing them, but on a different plattform?
I don't show my art in public much. My focus is on sharing paint info, and my own art is mine to enjoy mostly in private. I like it that way.
@@OtoKano I thought, you are also selling them. I think, I understand.
Yes, in German hell is the adjective for bright or light. Rot (LONG O) is red; Rotocker just means red ochre. And here it's made into a noun- you can stick anything together to make new nouns: das Arbeitslosensunterstuetztungsgeld is what we call the dole (workloserssupportmoney)!! German is easy-peasy and totally endearing. I am sorry it has such a bad press... but that's just life and there's a reason for everything in the end.
The lower one is German.
hell means light and dunkel means dark. 🙂🙂
Indeed it's
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Also why is Phthalo Blue red shade labeled as PB29? that's a mistake surely? And can we talk about the fact that neutral tint and payne's grey contain PB66? I find their pigment choices a bit strange in places. Also they use PV3 for "permanent violet" instead of 23, while mineral violet uses PV23. So strange.
Brilliant= dyes
Roman Szmal has a Genuine (natural) Van Dyke Brown NBr8.