It's fascinating having played through this back in the day and thinking it was difficult. It was then, for sure, but compared to current encounters it feels positively quaint.
4:49, 5:56 and 6:23 are examples of P2 melee extinguish which generally isn't talked about very often. This can be abused by stacking in middle for set fires if you know the timers of extinguishing.
@@darrak1 It looks like it can be tracked in the logs as "flame suppressant" It seems to be on a fairly predictable cycle. He will cast the first one 7 or 8 seconds after emergency mode is active. 15 seconds later he will cast it a second time. 30 seconds after that will be third cast, and finally 15 seconds later a 4th cast. Depending on on your phase 1 time the casts would be roughly at 2 mins, 2 mins 15, 2 mins 45 and 3 minutes. (This data is from 10 man logs - 25 man might be a bit different).
Btw you said to wear fire resist enchant for a tank, that wont do anything since Plasma Blast is spellfire damage which is a mix of arcane and fire and it will use your lowest resistance.
Plasma blast can't be resisted so no point putting on fire res as a tank. Also in p2 he will periodically do a small flame suppressant around him in melee range. This is also nice for controlling fire, but will put a casting speed debuff so don't stay near him long as ranged. I know you say to kite pummeler bots but to re emphasize for people watching: don't try to tank these, they will absolutely massacre even tanks. They can also be stunned for oh shit moments Idk if this still works but the tank can taunt the aerial command unit before it dies p3 and have that threat for p4 so that damage is focused on them. This let's the damage be focused on 1 person and is pretty safe since he doesn't use plasma blast in p4 Another nice vid Joardee, excited to see yogg video length lol
Yes but won’t the range just get threat back regardless cuz they’re focusing it down? A taunt and the range dropping threat will only buy u so much time how does the tank maintain threat on it for the entire phase
I wonder if Phase 4 will be one of the only times in the game, as a Ret, where keeping SoV stacks on two targets will net you more dps than cleaving with SoC.
Do we have to setup the loot setting to loot the Core? Or will this be random like every Other trashy item? You said in the guide, that you can choose a Player to loot this. Can always everybody loot it?
During phase 3, who should prio what? I'm assuming one tank tanks the junk bots, another tank kites the assault bots, and ranged kill boom bots? and I guess cc all bots when Mimiron is grounded. Is that right?
normals are way easier than prenerf T5 or SWP were. HMs will be trivial after few months due to the gear. Our pug is starting second reset - we expect to clear everything on normal first run (we took like a month to clear all of SWP), then add 1-2 HM per week, think we might be able to clear it within two months with the exception of yogg0.
PUGs usually fizzle out on keepers, I wouldn't trust it for the first few weeks, unless it's a guild looking to fill a few spots. Those random PUGs that start up in LFG out of nowhere, steer clear, especially if something is hard reserved from an early boss.🤷🏻♂
you stack on fire drops. then run away right before it drops. and the hunter stays behind more so they are the closest. run clockwise or counterclockwise whichever works for your raid.
P3 move as raid P4 the cone attack rapid burst from P2 is a thing still if everyone is on the same side everyone will eat the damage, P4 is a challenge cuz u technically should spread to different sides with fire, mines, fire bots, and water bombs everywhere
in my opinion u will be better with 3x shado prists and 5 healers only 2x rshamy don't put 2x hpala ,the hym from sp and shamy totem can keep ur mana for indefinitly time also you will have some more dps ...
It's fascinating having played through this back in the day and thinking it was difficult. It was then, for sure, but compared to current encounters it feels positively quaint.
I love that you're making the 2023 guide for these fights. I hope you can finish them all before it comes out. Keep up the great work.
lmao. "in a massive twist, which you totally did not see coming, Mimiron now combines all three..." Good comedic relief.
4:49, 5:56 and 6:23 are examples of P2 melee extinguish which generally isn't talked about very often. This can be abused by stacking in middle for set fires if you know the timers of extinguishing.
Yeah good call, interesting strategy. Will give it a go this weekend!
how does it work? a CD? can it be seen in logs?
@@darrak1 It looks like it can be tracked in the logs as "flame suppressant" It seems to be on a fairly predictable cycle. He will cast the first one 7 or 8 seconds after emergency mode is active. 15 seconds later he will cast it a second time. 30 seconds after that will be third cast, and finally 15 seconds later a 4th cast. Depending on on your phase 1 time the casts would be roughly at 2 mins, 2 mins 15, 2 mins 45 and 3 minutes. (This data is from 10 man logs - 25 man might be a bit different).
Thank you Papa Joardee.
Definitely gon have to “brb bio” before every Mimirom encounter
quality video my man!
Trying this tonight!
Great guide! I wasnt scared of Ulduar, now I am! :D What healing addon you use and is the skin public? Looks sick
Good fight for Shadow spec. More DoTs!
If they change the Enrage timer from 10 to 8 min this fight will become A LOT harder
patch notes out, no word on enrage timer and the FF buff going from 25% to 30%, they probably decided to scrap it?
Thank you!!!
Algebra! More vids, love theese ❤️
Came here during prog.
Can you make another videopart 2 explaining how to put it all together lmao thanks though joardee
Love the guides! Could you possibly make a healer-specific guide for Ulduar?
It's from a healer pov no?
waitin for that flame leviathan harde mode guide ;)
Should be coming soon!
In tank tips u mention fire resist for the tank due to plasma blast but I thought plasma blast couldn’t be resisted?
Hi, great video once again :)
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Btw you said to wear fire resist enchant for a tank, that wont do anything since Plasma Blast is spellfire damage which is a mix of arcane and fire and it will use your lowest resistance.
You have to tank CD it nevertheless. He talks about P2 and baiting the fires
Thanks chief
whats the addon/wa shows bloodlust remaining time on the icon above you? thanks.
Did he really expect us NOT to push a giant red button?
Hey Joardee what is the WA you use about the PI reminder?
Plasma blast can't be resisted so no point putting on fire res as a tank.
Also in p2 he will periodically do a small flame suppressant around him in melee range. This is also nice for controlling fire, but will put a casting speed debuff so don't stay near him long as ranged.
I know you say to kite pummeler bots but to re emphasize for people watching: don't try to tank these, they will absolutely massacre even tanks. They can also be stunned for oh shit moments
Idk if this still works but the tank can taunt the aerial command unit before it dies p3 and have that threat for p4 so that damage is focused on them. This let's the damage be focused on 1 person and is pretty safe since he doesn't use plasma blast in p4
Another nice vid Joardee, excited to see yogg video length lol
Ah I didn't realize that about the plasma blast! Oh well! Good tips thanks Albertjace
Yes but won’t the range just get threat back regardless cuz they’re focusing it down? A taunt and the range dropping threat will only buy u so much time how does the tank maintain threat on it for the entire phase
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Hunter pet taunt (growl) the bomb bots. It explodes on pet and deals almost no damage due to avoidance.
felt like reading school books
I wonder if Phase 4 will be one of the only times in the game, as a Ret, where keeping SoV stacks on two targets will net you more dps than cleaving with SoC.
Phase 4 is also the only time Ret actually gets decent in raid ST 🤣 Woot woot
@@nickh3809 lol, I’m talking about phase 4 of this boss. But yeah, I feel ya.
@@omarlozano9374 Heres to hoping for both phase 4s 😁
look at us now bby 😎
Do we have to setup the loot setting to loot the Core? Or will this be random like every Other trashy item?
You said in the guide, that you can choose a Player to loot this. Can always everybody loot it?
It was just adjusted on the PTR, its like the Vashj core now where anyone can pick it up regardless of loot setting!
During phase 3, who should prio what? I'm assuming one tank tanks the junk bots, another tank kites the assault bots, and ranged kill boom bots? and I guess cc all bots when Mimiron is grounded. Is that right?
are you going to make a guide for all the fights before the raid releases i would like to post them for my guild to check out
Working on it!
how is the addon called which shows target of plates?
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I wonder if doing pugs will be posible in this phase with this type of bosses
normals are way easier than prenerf T5 or SWP were. HMs will be trivial after few months due to the gear.
Our pug is starting second reset - we expect to clear everything on normal first run (we took like a month to clear all of SWP), then add 1-2 HM per week, think we might be able to clear it within two months with the exception of yogg0.
PUGs usually fizzle out on keepers, I wouldn't trust it for the first few weeks, unless it's a guild looking to fill a few spots.
Those random PUGs that start up in LFG out of nowhere, steer clear, especially if something is hard reserved from an early boss.🤷🏻♂
@@darrak1 big copium
Not sure if it was mentioned but how do you determine who the fire follows? Is it proximity?
Yes its proximity, the closest person to it gets "aggro" and it will head in their direction
Head doesn't drop aggro between p3 and p4. Have your tank to taunt head at the end of p3 and then warlocks use soulshatter.
how can hunter kite the fire ? you said it drops on 3 random people ? isnt ?
you stack on fire drops. then run away right before it drops. and the hunter stays behind more so they are the closest. run clockwise or counterclockwise whichever works for your raid.
Why does some of the fires just stand still, and others can be kited? How do you determine which ones will move and the ones who dont? @joardee
You have to identify the fire snake head, which is the only part that spreads. There are 2 fired snakes in total
So you only need to kite the flames in p1 & p2 with a specific person?
p3 & p4 you move as raid?
P3 move as raid P4 the cone attack rapid burst from P2 is a thing still if everyone is on the same side everyone will eat the damage, P4 is a challenge cuz u technically should spread to different sides with fire, mines, fire bots, and water bombs everywhere
noticed all the TBC mana flasks?
It's not a mana flask bro it's lesser flask of regen
Resistance won't help with tanks in P1 - the ability specifically says it cannot be resisted. In addition, it's spellfire damage, not fire damage.
How's olive doing? :)
This one'll be a DOOZY
so raid members will have to kite fire too? i don't understand
in my opinion u will be better with 3x shado prists and 5 healers only 2x rshamy don't put 2x hpala ,the hym from sp and shamy totem can keep ur mana for indefinitly time also you will have some more dps ...
Are there fires only in hard mode, or are they present in normal mode aswell?
Welcome to 15 years ago, grats
Thanks Justin!!
pls fix your audio dude can barely hear anything in your videos
Idk if this was mentioned but if I wanted to kite the fires you just need to aggro the head of the fire by getting close to it?
yes exactly, it targets the closest person