What bothers me is that employees would rather get upset at the consumer for not tipping enough rather than being upset at their respective industry for not paying a liveable wage
This is exactly why companies have shifted to this model. They have shifted the blame of poor wages to the consumer, however it is the company's responsibility to pay their employees, not the consumer.
_IF_ the server did a good job, they would get better tips. I spent *YEARS* in the food-service industry. I've seen the most lazy, nasty servers make huuuuge bucks because customers were shamed into tipping. That needs to change! We need to bring back stiffing for servers who are not prompt, servers who are not courteous and servers who deliver bad food.
You're bothered that people raised in a particular culture expect that culture? Those servers were born and raised in a society that considers those jobs that receive tips. Of course they expect that, they've been seeing it their entire lives. Even before they ever had a job at a restaurant they saw servers getting tips. It's what they were taught to expect. What bothers ME is all the selfish jerks who want to blame the servers for adapting to the culture they were raised in. Somehow at least 156 other people are self centered enough that they can't empathize with another person. It's always a shame to see people get self righteous while also being completely self centered and oblivious to the problem.
People love to tell everyone if you can't afford to tip you should stay home. They say you shouldn't be going out and having a good time if you can't afford to tip. I think the same should hold true for the businesses, if they can't afford to pay employee's the bare minimum wage and still be profitable then they SHOULD close up shop.
If they cannot pay their workers properly should not have started the business.They want to guilt trip all the customers into thinking they are doing injustice to the workers if they pay anything less than 20%. Tip is supposed to be paid only if you like the service,a small amount of 5-10% as gratitude.
As a European, American tipping culture is the most ridiculous thing ever. Why should a customer/guest pay the wages of the workers through anything other than the price he pays for the service (food, drinks, etc.). Sure if you want to give a little extra because the server was excellent or the food was extremely good, it's fine but it shouldn't be necessary for them to make a living wage
Made nore sense with cash. When you give it to the business, how much makes it's way back to the worker? When you pay the worker directly and eliminate the middleman, the worker gets ALL of that money. ...Doesn't work as well with credit cards. I was in Budapest about 20 years ago and thr other GIs in the bar talked about how tipping isn't a thing there, and didn't tip. A buddy of mine and I tipped equivalent of a dollar a drink (standard in the US at the time) and even when that place was later PACKED with people waiting to get the bartender's attention to get a drink, by buddy and I never waited for service. They would part the crowd and make sure we were always served, which is rational behavior. All things being equal, why wouldn't you sell your services for the higher price first?
@@cavav8r that's what should be the point though isn't it. You paid a small tip for better/good service, fine. If that's what tipping entails that's great (I'm from the Netherlands, we have that kind of tipping culture). If workers are dependent on the tips and you are expected to give 15-25% that's where you lose me. Especially when I hear even Starbucks asks for tips now (I'm sorry no one deserves a tip for using the espresso machine).
@@AMINOMMA Many other countries do the same. Even third world countries. The employers must pay liveable wage, The tip should entail that you're happy with the waiter and tip whatever you like no limit. But it's always optional.
💯. If I’m going to pay their salary, I want to do their performance review as well. And if I do that…I want a salary too. Don’t ever tip. I haven’t in 25 years.
This is what walmart SPARK is doing! most customers dont know walmart doesnt pay the delivery drivers hourly. Sometimes they make workers wait HOURS in the parkinglot unpaid, to only deliver 1 order, for $8-11. They also are 1099- NOT W2 employees! TIP YOUR DRIVER PLEASE!!!
"You're being guilted into tipping on something that's not a service. It's someone simply doing their job." This is absolutely true. I hate that companies are prompting customers for a tip when you went to the physical location and got what you ordered. It's not a tip when you are doing what you are hired to do. And as long as companies are able to guilt customers to foot the bill to cover their employees living, nothing will change.
Many stand-alone full service businesses pay less than minimum wage, and the employees count on tips to make the difference in pay. Why not ask the employees the next time you go to any restaurant before you blanket your response on tipping.
Tipping is designed to take the frustration worker have for their employer, who does not pay them fairly, and redirect it to the customer. The employer is spared of blame, and the problem now becomes how generous the customer is.
@@jeevang7853 Which also makes me (as a customer want to tip) because I'm afraid if I don't they'll spit in my food or something. They do a great job of turning us against each other.
Would be illegal in most countries. Guess the US is one of them, but you coudnt sue them for negligence if something happens, because thats too expensive. It goes around in cycles.
I've stopped going to places for this, and have told managers and owners why. If you're demanding a tip for services that have not yet been rendered I don't feel safe about what those services will be.
@@nickrulzyou Thats how tipping works in the rest of the world .We tip for exceptional service and not because the person feels entitled to my money even though they dont work for me.
I ordered a pizza and went to the restaurant to pick it up. I unabashedly clicked on “No tip”. I already paid for my pizza, you have no right to expect a tip simply for ringing my pizza up. I refuse to feel pressured or guilty about not tipping.
Good for you! Hold the line. I live in California, where they DO require a state minimum wage even for tipped employees, unlike the federal law. Yet they ask for tips for everything here now, including buying a pen at a stationary store! I don't feel any shame, only anger. I will go out of my way to take more time on the tablet to hit no tip, even if they make it hard to find that option, I don't care if I'm holding the line or the cashier is staring at me. You don't reward bad behavior, you stand your ground.
@@oooh19 Yup if I get to eat my meal first THEN pay I'll leave a tip. If I have to pay for my food first before eating it, then I don't tip. Only exception for me are buffets. Don't even get me started on take out ... expecting a tip for that is just
I went to a cookie shop with my mom a few months ago, we walk in, both politely said “hello”, the cashier didn’t even respond just straight up stared at us, even while we were looking at different cookies. My mom said “are you going to speak or just stare at us?”, he eventually spoke but he didn’t really want to. When we bought our cookies he did the tip flip and we put no tip. The receipt printed, instead of handing it to us he took it and looked at it for 5 seconds and THEN handed it to us while shaking his head. These places want tips but can’t even give bare minimum customer service. It’s annoying af.
they should be trained to greet customers, either the management didnt train them correct or they did and the employee is refusing to greet, so either way no tip should be awarded until both issues are resolved.
Seems like the worker was very tired and forced to come to work. Even though the service was quite bad I don't think they are fully to blame-- consider how management is not paying them enough or not giving people sick days
So, a song and dance for $2.75/hr + tips?? Employee needs to be more up beat, selling cookies at a counter for a living? How about their employee pay them a decent wage and tip is something a customer just feel like doing but not obligated?
I was in the US once for one month and because of how expensive and annoying stuff like those tips are I will never come back. Also it’s incredibly annoying to always calculate how much tax you have to pay.
At JFK airport there is a SELF checkout drink stand that asks you for a tip when you buy a bottle of water when you literally do not interact with any workers at all.
@chili_420_2 HI Talkie the Toaster here! Toasting is my game. Would you like some toast? Or a bagel? And don’t forget to tip! - This is a British TV reference from Red Dwarf
European visiting America recently. I went to an Amtrak train station with my disabled child in a wheelchair - immediately a very helpful red coat person ran up to us and took the wheelchair and wheeled us the whole way to our train. Just as we lifted the wheelchair up the steps he basically stuck his hand out. That was the worst example of many others over a few weeks, where having a wheelchair was an absolute burden as you had service workers run to help you without asking, and then having the social awkwardness of feeling obliged to pay them. What an awful way to run society, making everyone cynical of each other's motives. Helping other people should mostly not have an immediate and expected pay off.
You’re right, of course. It used to be like that but, unfortunately, our society is rapidly moving away from that standard on both Coasts. I got disgusted with the politicians ruining California, so after a lifetime in Orange County, I left California and resettled in the Midwest. I found a whole different world. People are so helpful and polite, and eager to help. Sadly, my fellow Americans can keep the Coasts.
Completely wrong. Your example is just kindness and dealing with kind workers. They should not expect a tip and I doubt they are expecting a tip also. The idea of tipping is rewarding good service. That is why you tip your servers, bellman, valet, and bartenders. I have personally worked as a bellman before. I was able to use my average tip amount to see if the service I was providing was good enough. It was an incentive to provide good service. And no, don't think it was the hotel not paying enough. We got a free, high quality food, good breaks, and got paid over minimum wage.
That’s such a twisted view… This example portrays what it’s like to see other humans just as customers/money bags that should pay for literally everything. It reduces human interaction to a financial model. Should I ask for a tip when I hold the door open for someone? (Why stop at your job, when you basically „work“ for people in your everyday life?)
I ordered some supplies from a local pet supply store and I didn't get them for 2 days. The excuse I was given was I didn't offer a big enough tip. When I was growing up a tip was a way of thanking somebody for a very good service. The joke eventually was on the driver because even though I put down $4 as a tip for bringing my order 2 miles, and it was just a cardboard cat scratcher and cat claw trimmers. How do I order cat litter and cat food I would have offered a much bigger tip, but I put in the order instructions to knock on my door. I had planned on giving the driver a few more bucks in cash but the driver ignored the delivery instructions so they didn't get their extra money
Business owners paying their workers less than minimum wage and then convincing them the responsability lies on the customer is one history's greatest finesses.
They want to make you think that tipping is for the employee but I feel this is for the employer to excuse themselves from higher wage. It has gotten crazy lately.
I tip everywhere I go, because I want the person keep showing up to work. Don't tip and just get everything from Amazon and don't tip your driver, I guess. Tippers makes the universe turn. Everyone should thank tippers because non tippers are receiving some of the benefits of those tips. Your more likely to get good service or at least a quality worker that just might be doing the job of 2 people due to tips. If you constantly get horrible service, maybe it's easy to see you're a non tipper or you just miserable or maybe just funny looking and they don't want your money anyways, but they provide services in hopes of getting you out of there quickly, so they can get a tipper next. Non tippers lack compassion and generally are bare minimum kind of people, with empty lives and no REAL friends. Who doesn't tip? Wow, no friend of mine, that's for sure.
I am still in shock when i get the terminal to pay at a restaurant and the options for tip START at 18%. Who died and made you eligible to 20% tip? Ask your employer for better pay, customers SHOULD NOT be forced for tips.
@@ichijofestival2576 well let me tell you ichy festival, I’ve worked in the service industry for 40 years, so there is no ignorance of tipping in the US. Believe me, I understand fully.
@@zaclangdon3218 Nobody cares about that, they're just upset they're getting guilted by pixels and don't have a backbone to say no, so they're mad online.
@@zaclangdon3218 If you get rid of tipping culture they would actually get payed. And not have to really on the wims of strangers. Tipping is a scam benefiting the employers not the workers.
I am an American in Paris and I was appalled at the amount of times I was asked to tip in the US and the amount expected in restaurants. Employers should PAY their workers a liveable wage. We should not be living in a tip dependant society!
They main opponent to any legislation that appears to do away with tipping is not actually tipped employees. If you hear ads on tv or radio, usually with the slogan "Save Our Tips," they are always funded by restaurant owner associations. The current system allows them to pocket the revenue from the sale, while the customer pays the employee's wages. Changing that would eat into their profits (oh, sorry for the pun).
In my state, there is a clause in employee compensation law that states employees can be paid below minimum wage if they have average tips that give them the minimum wage.
I agree, it’s ridiculous and out of control. The worst thing is that Americans travel to other countries where tipping is not expected yet they tip anyway and are now habituating the locals to expect tips from foreigners. I was in a country which I won’t name; their restaurant workers are paid a full wage with benefits. I was with a friend of mine and he suggested I tip the server. I asked the cashier about it and was told it was not necessary and not expected. He confirmed the servers were paid a full wage with benefits and did not expect tips. My friend guilted me into tipping anyway. Tipping used to be a sign the customer appreciated a service that went above and beyond what is expected. Nowadays it is there, as a matter of fact, systematically, to supplement the worker’s meager salary that the employer can’t afford or doesn’t want to pay his or her employees. We are all subsidizing business owners for their lack of ethics and accountability towards their employees. In some cases, business owners cannot afford to pay their employees more, I get it, and at some point we need to take a hard look at our priorities as a capitalistic society and treat employees with more dignity. I understand this is not as simple as it sounds but other countries manage, so we should too.
@@henryhenry271 You were not supposed to tip a cashier at a grocery store (where you picked up the items you want and brought them in just to pay at the cash register), but that changed and now you have those guilt-shame tip-begging tablets everywhere... It's only a matter of time when the same will happen on the self-checkout side as well.
As a Turkish, I feel the establishment is obliged to properly pay their team and tips are just corrupted hidden fees. Show me the real cost upfront! If coffee is 4$ without tip, make it 7$ and remove the tips. Efficient, transparent, honest.
I've actually had an employee at a Subway restaurant who told me NOT to tip from the machine when prompted because the owner was keeping all of it and not giving it to the employees.
I had something somewhat similar happen at Sally Beauty last month. I bought $14 worth of product, and when the option to tip $1, $2 or $3 popped up on the screen, the employee apologized and cleared it out. I'm used to that at live music merch stands, and between that and my LMT sister I've learned that unless there's a cash tip jar, employees only see a small fraction of the amount. Same principle applies to most sit down restaurants, and I ALWAYS leave a cash tip
A student of mine has spent six months in Canada on a student exchange program. When she came back she told us how she was expected to tip everyone who worked in services and how it was a problem for her with her limited pocket money she received. Here in Poland you only tip waiters in restaurants or cafes, 10% is the maximum amount you would give and only if you were very happy with the service. So, dear American employers, it is not the customers’ business to pay your emoloyees’ wages. It’s time you sorted it out and started paying the people you employ a salary they can live on.
It's the same here. Those being fooled into this have only themselves to blame. As for the employers. They got greedy during covid when Americans felt bad for closures and business struggles. We gave a little extra. They now think we should be able to part with that money the same as we did then. Part of the video even seems to plead acceptance. I don't think so. Finally the one asking for pre tips before a service is even given should be sued for intimidation tactics. Because that's all it will lead towards.
I was in Canada recently. Prices without tax, with almost mandatory tip, for giving me bread in the bakery, from a shelf to my hand. It looks like you were scammed in America.
I'm living in Canada and I just honestly ignore all this tipping garbage. Only tips I give are at a restaurant or my hair dresser, as those were always traditionally tipped. Why is my local sandwich joint or pizza joint asking for tips? No way that's happening. My coffee joint (Tims) thankfully doesn't ask for tips, but you can bet I wouldn't give them any either if they did. It's out of control and way worse across the border in the US.
Yeah it’s stupid. I am a bartender and delivery driver and I think that tipping thing is stupid. When I am making cocktails or deliver food, I don’t ask you to tip until I’m done with the service and even then I don’t guilt trip you into anything I just make the drink, deliver your food and walk away it’s my job. Guilt, tripping and nearly forcing customers to tip even before the service is unconstitutional and almost like a bribery and a Third World country.
@@DanWick26 same here. I only tip if I get good service if it’s terrible service, I don’t tip at all. When I was bartending in Miami Beach, owl were tips were included in everyone’s paycheck and in some areas like Ocean Drive or the big tourist destinations they have 20% already added on to your bill.
it is simple… do not tip. It is your money. i bring business to the restaurant. If that restaurant is disrespectful and/or abusive, i just do not return with my family to that restaurant.
I recently took a holiday to the US and I found the whole tipping thing to be incredibly stressful, so much so that by the end of the holiday I was actively avoiding situations where I would be expected to tip.
As someone from the U.S, you are not alone. I feel so pressured to tip even when I am picking my food up. I hate it but it’s the work culture here. I feel like we should only tip when the person goes above and beyond. Not for doing their job. And that’s speaking as a hairstylist.
As a non-US citizen, I find it absolutely mind-boggling that it's legal to exempt certain workers from receiving less than minimum wage. What part of "minimum" is unclear?
It is illegal to hire someone and not pay the minimum wage in the USA. Workers are being paid at least the minimum wage or the business owner will be closed down.
@@thakiusmuckfeather1103 Yea I was working as a jett's pizza delivery driver and they only paid me 5 (minimum wage was 8.25 at the time). Whats worse is that they were taking advantage of the loophole by hiring extra drivers to make us wash dishes for 5 bucks an hour!
@@thakiusmuckfeather1103 nope, a dominoes pizza delivery driver only gets paid $4 an hour. If the customers don’t tip, the driver literally looses money on gas. Employers are always good at exploiting their workers.
The first time I arrived in the US as European, I quite literally couldn’t figure out what’s going on. I ordered a sandwich at a deli shop to go, paid for it and was then asked why haven’t I given the waiter some more cash. I asked if the waiter was in dire need, maybe his family member died, maybe he was sick or sth. The guys just looked weird at me. I didn’t want to offend nobody so I gave them some money but it felt weird. Like, how much money do you give someone if he’s in so much trouble he literally has to ask a customer for money. I felt bad about it for the rest of the day but then it kept happening - literally everywhere. After like the 10th time I messaged by American friend literally asking “if there’s a pandemic or sth like that happening cos everyone’s asking me for money”. And I don’t even come from a rich country or anything. I arrived in one of the wealthiest countries on the planet, having flown in from (back then) one one the poorest countries in Europe. My friend explained that this was tipping and something that’s just expected of customers to do everywhere I go. I still feel weird about it. How do you guys live with that? I mean. It’s just crazy. The guys I was tipping (after I learned that that’s expected in the US) were surely earning more than 5 times what I was making. Even without tips. We have none if that where I come from. People just get paid for doing their jobs. If they do them poorly - they get fired or miss out in promotions. If they feel underpaid, they just leave for another job. I am still flabbergasted that in the US, a first world country, the land of the free etc. you still have employees literally begging customers for money. Going as far as demanding handouts from customers poorer than them.
There's your mstake...thinking america is a 1st world country (and not a banana republic with a lot of individual dictators), and as for a free country...ha ha, don't make me laugh...
That's a double edged sword. We order via Ubereats maybe once a week. Mainly a dessert on a Saturday evening. I usually set the original tip amount low. The driver has the option to accept it or not. If I feel the service was above my "mental bar", I have the option to tip more within an hour of delivery. I'm honest.... After working all week, I'm way too lazy to go get something. So this person is driving to get my stuff, probably waiting for it, then delivering it to my door step. All because I don't feel like going to get it. If it arrives in a timely manner and I see they took precautions like using an insulated bag..... Yeah, I'll boost that tip and they will get a nice surprise in an hour. But again, I don't feel "pressured" into it like these stores are now doing.
I don’t do a tip. I give the person cash when they arrive because l will be at home. I think the restaurants should also seal the bag some way so it can’t be opened.
Uber and doordash drivers have the choice to take the order or Decline the order when it pops up. Which is why they ask to tip first. Each order only pays 2 dollars by the company so Most people skip orders with no tip or less tip. With gas being so expensive 2 dollars to picking up, drive and deliver while spending gas is not worth it. Especially sometimes it takes forever for the restaurant to have your order ready. The non tip orders then go to combined orders or drivers who need to boost their acceptance score. Pretty much if you want your food fast tip.
@@cauliflaa9910^this. I've done door dash for years and less than 10 percent of deliveries will increase their tip after you are done. If you accepted every delivery as it was and you aren't in a major metropolitan, you will find out quickly you will lose money and be paying for the convenience of working and beating on your car. That's why door dash just introduced being able to be paid by the hour (from the moment you hit accept). It was to solve this problem because drivers were actively sharing how hilariously low their acceptance rates were
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't services like Postmates and Uber Eats already charge an insanely high delivery fee before even asking for tips anyways? (I remember it being like 50% of my order cost...) And to my knowledge this delivery fee is partially for paying its drivers. So why the tip? That's like adding on a tip and then asking for a second tip.
Tipping has always infuriated me. When I went to New York, I was asked to tip like 15% for the bartender to literally open a bottle of beer - it's honestly wild. You breathe and they expect a tip. It's so engrained in U.S. culture that staff get annoyed when a customer doesn't tip, but doesn't get annoyed about a multi-million dollar restaurant not paying you a fair wage. It's simply just a way for companies to make more profit whilst you (the backbone of the business), rely on customers gratuity. In a realistic world, if everyone decided to not tip, companies will literally be forced to pay their staff a wage to keep their employees.
Problem is we are in fact annoyed at the million/billion dollar corporations who refuse to pay decent wages but there's nothing we can do and if we don't end up getting tipped we don't make enough to live. And that's how the filthy rich like it
@@tjblackmore3247 viewpoints like this irritate me as they excuse the selfish actions of greedy corporations. Employers should be paying their employees a livable wage and if they can't do that, then they shouldn't be in business. Guilt-tripping people into tipping for unnecessary things even if the service wasn't good is NOT the direction America should keep going in. You should tip if you have the money and feel the service was exceptional, while at the same time the employee should be making a livable wage and should not rely on tips to pay the bills, that's insane.
Its especially bad when the restaurant adds a automatic gratuity charge for less than a large group, then complain you didn't tip. One place I went to added 20% automatic gratuity then had the nerve to add in "Add Additional Tip" with suggestions in the 15%+ range. So if you weren't paying attention, you would literally put in a 40% tip because you are used to paying 20% at restaurants (assuming you usually tip that much that is). BTW, they added the automatic gratuity for 2 person table AND calculated the tip based on Total not Subtotal. Edit: Its probably even higher since the automatic gratuity is included in the total, therefore the suggested "additional tip" is actually even higher.
@@Yuh-iq9tl He's right. If people realize that staying home and getting your own food/drinks is cheaper, then these horrifically over-bloated restaurants will die off. It's the perfect solution.
I have encountered a lot of payment screens with out the option of “no tip” or “skip” . Also I wonder if these tips go to the actual workers instead of the business owner pockets. No way to control it.
@@cachorrodetiger This is a common negative pattern. It gives you the illusion that you have to tip. When this happens next, just immediately try to pay with your card and it will force the skipping of the tip screen.
Yup. I'm not going to encourage employers to underpay their workers. I'm also not going to tip someone for doing something that has low variability in quality.
The tipping point is when some businesses say "No tipping, we pay a living wage". These businesses become more and more popular and succeed. There are several in the town where I live doing this.
@CH yeah I work in a kitchen and the servers make 4 an hour while I make 12 an hour, last night I asked one of the servers how much she ended up making in tips and she made $400. She made 4x more than me for the same amount of time at work.
Every time a restaurant tries it I hear they switch back or close down, needs to be the norm rather than the rare exception for it to catch on. I'm worried we're going backwards, most fast food and takeout places ask for tips now.
I definitely have started falling into the “resentful” category. I started tipping for everything, anytime that screen swiveled around I paid 18-20%. Now I am resorting back to just tipping on the services that I tipped on a few years ago (servers, hair stylists, nail salons, etc), I don’t care if anyone judges me. I’m not paying a tip on something like a bolba drink lol…
@@user-sf9gs2pg1b I'm from europe and they ask me for a tip lol, I simply said no and told them to ask for better wage to their boss... I dont understand it so overpriced in la and las vegas and still they can't pay their workers good? Wtf in europe our foodprice is more expensive but we manage to put good price for costumers and pay workers good standard wage...
The worst is when the server holds the device in their hand while you're entering the information. It feels more like an interrogation than payment for a service.
That happened to me in Starbucks drive-thru. I pressed no tip, got my items that I drove there to get, and then left. It is ridiculous with these tips.
I protest the tip culture by reducing the service I receive as much as possible. It's just ridiculous to be presented a tip screen for people doing the bare minimum job requirements like giving you the item you ordered at the counter.
It’s not just at restaurants where you’re being asked to tip. I have ordered things online directly from the small business owner and it has asked me how much I want to tip. 0% is always my answer. If you aren’t charging me enough for your product or service, then that’s not my problem.
After living in Japan for 5 years, where tipping is not a thing and even considered an insult, I am all for getting rid of tipping and forcing companies to pay their employees an actual wage.
tipping is a thing in Japan it's already included in the bill your food is higher priced. 😉japan just forces you to do it automatically without objecting 🤣
@@SlickRickTPBAs a Japanese who's been to america, I can say America's tip culture is totally different from japan's service fee system. You have to pay the service fee in japan only when you stay at a hotel or eat at some fancy restaurant. Moreover, that extra fee is not the main source of income for employees in japan.
@@SlickRickTPB Yes, of course, when you pay, you pay for the service, food, coffee, or anything the restaurant or café offers. This is known in countries that do not make their employees beg for their rights in exchange for the work they do. In addition, customers feel more comfortable when they do not have to pay different amounts for the service. Personally, I do not think that tipping is bad, but if it is necessary, it should be one option, either 10 percent of the bill, or 15 percent more than that. I think that restaurant and store owners are trying to give their employees their salaries from their customers in a dirty scam. The store owner gets his profits and leaves his employees in front of... Customers to collect their salaries. Are we in the Middle Ages? For your information, I am not from America, and my country does not have a standard for tipping. I was confronted by an employee. I gave him change as a tip, but he asked for more. All I did was ignore him because he has no right. He gets a salary. If it is not enough, this is his problem. He should solve it with the employer, not with the customers.
The craziest part is at those quick-service restaurants and coffee shops where they ask for a tip on the tablet, you haven't even been given what you purchased yet. So I'm expected to tip when I do not even know if my coffee was made right or my meal??!
I have absolutely no problem pressing "No Tip" in front of the employee. I am not tipping for any to go order, I tip when I sit down and a waitress waits on me and I tip if someone delivers to my house.
There is a level even worse than this... some businesses the cashier will verbally ASK you "would you like to add a tip?". That is straight up forced consumer guilt.
You should tip when you pick up an order from, let's say, an Applebee's or Outback, because you are taking up that servers time. They have to put your order together when they could be seating somebody that would pay them something. I think the minimum of 10% should be paid for picking up an order like that, not at a fast food place or a Starbucks.
@@nahor88 Taos Cow ice cream shop in Taos NM, ordered a scoop of ice cream, gave her the cash, i had .85 cents coming back, she straight up threw it in the tip jar as if she was entitled to it.
@@suew4609 they’re being paid an hourly wage, and it’s called multi-tasking. I only tip if I eat in a restaurant, not when I place orders to-go and/or for pick-up.
@@iiMISSBUNNY Well you're welcome to do whatever you do. I just know from my kids' server experience that at some restaurants there is one person assigned to do the call ins and internet orders. Sure they get their minimum wage, but it's only $2.13 in many states. I don't like to cheat them on their tips!
I'm from Germany, we have a tipping culture, but it's basically only in actual restaurants with service, hair dressers, taxi drivers, stuff like that. And it's more like 5-10% and not really required. Anyway, when I was visiting the US and they showed a "tip tablet" in my face at an ice cream place, I was utterly shocked. It's absurd how they hide the "no tip" button as well. I'm sorry, but I won't tip for Ice Cream or a Smoothie, that was overpriced to begin with.
I worked at an ice cream shop and half of my income was tips. However I always felt weird showing every customer the tip tablet and if it was me I wouldn’t want to tip. I just wished my boss would pay us more….
Tipping really was supposed to be for services like restaurants hairdressing etc in America. It’s just that because there’s a culture of it that other services (Including ice cream) Will try to see if they can get more money out of you now. Appropriate tipping is 15% here. More or less the golden standard. Otherwise funny looks (I think)
Agreed. Doordash for example only pays drivers on average $2 per order. At 2 - 3 orders an hour it's impossible to pay for gas let alone every other living expense without relying on tips.
Why on earth do you think customers won't pay for employees if they increase the wage. Even if corporations are going to increase the wage, their costs are going to go up for which they are going to increase the price of the product. Basically the customer pays the same or maybe even more if they increase their profit margin from the existing one.
When I was in Spain, a restaurant owner invited my family and I to eat “on the house”. After dinner we tried to leave a tip and he declined for them because he said he paid them very well. He said only in America do restaurant owners not pay their staff well and expect them to survive on tips. That was 2018.
That's because the US is just a third world country in disguise. We don't get paid enough and rely way too much on tips, more than the state, government, or even the business you work for, would like to admit. From my experience, people who get angry about others who don't tip are usually the ones struggling because they're stressed from being on the verge of eviction
He cannot live without those tips, he gets paid $4.15 to be there and then has to pool tips with the rest of the staff, then it's taxed because they don't give tips in cash anymore. So your $4.15 potential of $9 is now $6 because of how many times the pie is sliced
@MangoMochis you shouldn't get mad on her. She is probably new and young. She did her job for you and you being cheap not paid her for her work. Waitress is getting paid by work they do not by hr. If you worked a week and not get paid. How would you feel. Have more empathy for your waiter and waitress
Many builders, plumbers and craftsmen are also paid by the work they do, but they are smart enough to not work for free. If waitress is an employee, he/she should receive appropriate compensation for her work, which is paid by the employer and not by random generosity of strangers.
Here in Norway, a taxi driver would look at you weirdly if you were to attempt to tip them. Tipping is basically just at restaurants, and anything above 10% would really raise some eyebrows. No tipping is also fine, the wages are good and well regulated by the state.
If you have any significant amount of Norwegian cash in your wallet you should be prepared to be reported to the authorities as being a suspected drug dealer. Otherwise simply round up the amount on a bill, say from 142kr to 150kr and everyone's happy.
@@agungwiseno In Sweden we have no minimum wage but we have a system with unions that's not broken and not under constant attack from right wing media. Just like mentioned above, 10% is normal at restaurants..
@@agungwiseno this communism rhetoric was the greatest scam ever. Actually, most of the world is not capitalistic. I see Americans and Chinese people have sth in common. The best thing is to go on holiday to Europe.
I'm an American hospitality worker. Guests/customers should NEVER be asked for a tip under any circumstance. If they want to tip, let them, but don't guilt them into it.
Très certainement. Cette situation ressemble de plus en plus à celles des villes balnéaires du Maroc, où les enfants essaient par tous les moyens de porter vos valises pour recevoir un peu d'argent.
I remember one time I went to a bar at a music venue and ordered two beers for myself and my uncle. The bartender reached into the fridge, opened two tall cans and handed them to me. Then when he passed me the card reader, it gave tip options of 18%, 20%, and 25%. I skipped the tip option and payed the already ridiculous price for two beers. When I handed the card reader back, the bartender gave me a disgusted look when he saw I didn’t tip. I just couldn’t believe that he genuinely thought I would tip him 18% for just reaching into a fridge and opening two beers. Modern-day tipping culture is terrible and it’s crazy how society is expected to tip large amounts for the most basic services.
bartending and waiting tables is a little different. in most cases they get paid less wages due to the expectation they get tips. not sure where it lies now but up until recently most establisments in GA pay their servers and bartenders something like 2 dollars and change an hour.
@@Nate-zm6bd oh so we all have to go to a course to study which professions get paid less and be experts in that knowledge now, just to buy things? Awesome. Keep defending bartenders...great job and way to encourage tipping culture.
@@gamingbtc wow. if you have to take a course to figure out service industry makes less due to it being a traditionally tipped service. pay based upon the quality of service rendered. you got alot of courses to take. not sure but seems like you intended your comment to be insulting. but really says a whole lot more about you. and your intelligence. or lack there of. Heres my last lesson young padawan. tip the pizza delivery guy. But you have every right to be upset about them pressuring you to tip at a drivethru......
Glad there is awareness on this. Getting ridiculous. “Guilted” into tipping is absolutely correct. A tablet asking for tip on a take out. Asking you what you’d like to tip with 5 customers behind me. I thought I was the only one feeling weird.
Just got a take-out from Olive Garden that was ~$25 and they brought out the food and the receipt and they it was asking for a tip! Like am I tipping on you bringing my food to my car and not dropping it? 😂I'll gladly walk the 25 steps to the restaurant and back if this becomes a thing
@@Hunters_Mechanics Employers don't really like to pay livable wages. That's why tips are a thing in the first place boomer. Don't get mad at the employee.
@@Hunters_Mechanics Packaging the food and bringing it to your cat takes more time than running the food to your table. If you cant afford to eat at a restaurant, cook.
@@cheezedoodlenygguh6229 Lmfao I cant believe y'all think the simple run to the car deserves a tip and saying so makes me a boomer when I'm 23 😂 I'm already paying the bill for the takeout, no need for a tip when I'm already paying for the service, which is to make my food 🤷♂️
@@user-rx162r I much prefer to get food and take it to my house to enjoy rather than waiting ages for the waiter to come around, listening to a bitchy table next to me, and pay for insanely over priced drinks when I have plenty of options at home lol they offer take-out, I'm going to use it, don't have to sit in to enjoy a restaurants food 🤷♂️
As an Australian, being on the outside of this, and just looking in …. I think this is ridiculous, it’s not the customers responsibility to subsidize the wages of the employee. It’s up to the business to pay a fair wage, if they unable or unwilling to do that, maybe they shouldn’t be in business in the first place.
As someone that just came back from a vacation in Australia (where there is zero tipping culture), it was so refreshing to just pay and leave and not feel any burden of guilt or responsibility to pay more. Tap and go and I truly wish that we were like this too.
You know the tips on the tablet go directly to the employer, at least the last few places I worked. It's why they got rid of the tipping jars in which the employees kept the money
Wife is from Sweden so we go there alot and it's a good feeling. Over here I don't tip much anyways; only at restaurants but at bare minimum. Never understood why I should tip a person...that's their job.
I'm a homeless Uber driver with a tip jar for passengers because I'm drowning in problems and barely surviving. Honestly the tips aren't even enough. I'm still struggling and need more.
I started to catch myself feeling kind of guilty for not tipping for everything everywhere but decided to ignore that guilt. I stick to tipping at restaurants & occasionally at the subway I frequent for the teenagers & of course any deliveries I might get but that’s enough, I’m not getting paid enough to cover other peoples salaries in this economy, we’re all just trying to make it out here.
This is my approach, if I tipped for the service 5 years ago, I still tip. But I can’t believe how many places are asking for tips now, like Crumbl Cookies. This is a bakery and you put 4 cookies that were already made in a box for me, I shouldn’t be asked to provide wages.
Since a 20% tip is almost a standard, why don't employers include it in the food price and pay it to the employees? Like the case in France where the service is already included in the bill.
I've always chosen not to tip unless I'm served directly (eg. Barber, server, etc). That means I don't tip someone behind the counter. I also decided on a new rule after watching the video: I won't tip prior to receiving service.
@Karl with a K there are countless of things more disrespectful and dehumanising than tipping a person. You do realise that you lost your credibility by this sentence?
@Karl with a K What a load of nonsense. Tipping a person is a way of saying "thanks for doing a great job and serving me;" it's a courtesy, not some subconscious commentary on the status of the person being tipped. It's people like you who read too much into everything and get offended all the time for absolutely no reason Not to mention that people don't always do the job they most want to do. Do you think most waiters really love the job with their whole heart?
@Karl with a K all I have to do is find one thing more disrespectful and dehumanising than tipping a person.... And you're proven wrong. I think it's so easy even you could do it :D
I'll never forget when I went to a craft fair and purchased a pair of locally made earrings from a vendor. She swiped my credit card and turned the screen for me to sign. Right on the screen was a suggested tip amount. I was so blindsided. This is a craft fair. She made the earrings. If she wanted to get paid more for the earrings, then charge more! There was no service involved. That was the moment I realized tipping has truly gotten out of control, when even non-service industries are asking for tips!
Idk, I understand some DoorDash drivers are greedy but you gotta keep in mind people that tip 1$ or even 0$ makes people less than $5 an hour not including the cost of gas/ repairs, tips are how drivers get paid and without it lots of people can’t work. I only do it on the side but some people do it full time and depend on tips
I feel the same about independent stylists who rent a chair. They charge $40 and keep the entire $40. Then I tip $10 because it’s customary….why not just charge $50 and not expect a tip if that’s what your service is worth?
@@nobleone89 do you really believe that independent stylists are keeping 100% of what they charge you???? no. over 50% goes towards rent/utilities, product costs, taxes, insurance, etc. tips are not required but a way to say "i appreciate and value you as a service provider"
I went out drinking recently, and the bartender flat out told me a $5 tip was expected on each $15 drink, and that “everyone else tips that here” I left the bar.
I always tip 20% or more at restaurants. Stopped by a bubble tea shop in queens and ordered tea to go, tea was about $8, kiosks asked 15%, 18%, 20%, or 22% … I pressed no tip and I can see right away the cashier and the staff were not happy. no one wanted to make my tea until I asked where my tea was. It should no longer called tip, it’s a bribe.
This is so ridiculous! In Europe (most countries), where I live, tipping is not expected at all. I find it so annoying that you feel obliged to leave a tip in the US, which should be completely optional.
@@iluvutube4886but is it really? I think by "completely" optional, they mean you feel zero guilt not to. In the US you often feel peer pressured to leave a tip, because if you don't, you're looked down on. When we were last in the US we had pretty bad service at a particular restaurant and didn't tip. The staff made it quite clear to us that we were not welcome and not to return, that's how hurried to get rid of us (and generally impolite) they became
@@Hirotoro4692 Unless your service was astonishingly terrible and the waiter was extremely rude, you should always tip at a sit down restaurant because waiters only make about $2.50 per hour. This is WAY below minimum wage required at any other job, they literally rely on tips to live. If the food takes awhile it's the cooks fault, not the waiter's. Yes it's a messed up way of paying employees but you cant change it. You explain your problem to a manager and they will likely take money off your bill, or give you the whole meal for free. But you have to tip a waiter. If you let their boss know thats how to deal with it. Anyway everywhere else tipping is not required, it's optional. Just dine in restaurants. It's ok to not understand a different culture. I just thought I'd explain and help
@@user-wr9ej6xe4jin a lot of states (especially where tourist are) the waiters make a lot more than 2,50$. That’s a thing of the Past. Minimum Wage for tipped Jobs for example in California 16$, Florida 9$, New York 10-15$.
Worked in Japan for a year. My hourly rate was 15.00 and tipping is considered rude. Both restaurants I worked at was no tip. Truly mind blowing about American culture
@@elionmatoshi2978 So what? The overall cost to the customer would the same, but clear upfront. I'd much rather pay $20 for a meal than $13 meal + $3 tax + $4 tip. Japanese restaurants are nerve balm for me, US tipping is cancer.
I worked at an airport. I got paid garbage as a wheelchair pusher. When I got tipped regularly, I managed to barely make any money to pay bills. Mind you even the airport stores don't expect tips. Why am I not getting help pushing someone who's 300 lbs? Especially when they ask me to take them to the bathroom, go smoke, and the bar all before I take them to the gate?
I don’t tip at drive thru windows, and I was shocked when Starbucks employees just started blatantly asking for tips on a pad. It feels like guilt-extortion
@@georgenaidoo9553 i think those dead-end-job 34-year-olds should have been a little smarter when they were young and had gotten a skill when they had the chance. unfortunately, even though they have a far more sizable chance to pick up a skill *right now,* they only use tiktok to melt their brains when they're off work. sucks to be them, yay for darwinism, nay for them.
Yes! I'm tired of seeing that tipping screen when I pay for food. Also, I'm tired of the donations being asked from billion-dollar franchises. I don't mind tipping for excellent service when I DINE IN, but not when I'm there for takeout.
Yeah, they ask donations for starving children and hospitals everywhere. Multimillion dollars business want us to make charitable contributions in their name.
Yes never donate through a billion dollar franchise. They use the amounts donated by consumers as a tax write off. Just donate directly to a charity instead. We cannot keep enabling these billion dollar company CEO’s to keep skirting tax obligations.
Exactly. They put pressure and pressure for us to tip. It s out control. I enjoy so much eating out but tips now days are 17%, 22%, 25%, in some places in Orlando.
SO what would be the fair wage, I live in CA where people at KFC are getting paid $17.50 to work the drive through… SO should it be 27.50? Who decides what is too much and / or too little.
@@MH_6160 The employers and the market decide, just like in every other part of the world. How do you think the other 7.8 billion people in the world who are not American are getting paid?
@@MH_6160 The company or owner, they look at the location, they look at other similar job places see how much they pay their employees with in that location and your skills if you can do x,y and z. Determines your pay.
Tran Le either we go with tipping or they will increase prices. Is not that they don't want to. Is that they can't or they will be forced to increase price which could cause them to loose customers and loose to their compition (Other companies). There is a lot of economics that go into it.
All employers i the United States are required to pay their employees at least $7.25/hour no matter what. Yes, their is a clause that tipped restaurant employees have a minimum wage of $2.13. HOWEVER, if the employees receive less than $5.12/hour on average in tips, then their employer must must pay the remaining depict to get them up to $7.25/hour.
I'm living in Berlin, and this ugly tipping culture is starting to invade some spots of the city, increasing. While many shops and restaurants only accept cash, is still not that implemented. But I have started opting out tip from places that are cashless, in which I don't receive a dine-in waiter service (take aways, coffee shops, ice cream shops...), and I immediately decline tipping and they've lost a future client for life. It is the biggest consumer rip-off of this century and I won't be contributing to it, Specially not in Germany with its workers rights.
Yes, I noticed it seems to be spreading in Europe very fast. Especially heavy tourist spots. One of the reasons, Americans pay a tip of their standard back home. It's not only in Europe, they are spreading this to non tipping countries. I wish they would study the basics of the country before they visit.
You missed the most important part of this. As tipping on counter-service becomes normalized more and more employees are being reclassified as tipped employees allowing the employer to lower their hourly wage by the amount that they get tipped each day. You're effectively just tipping the business owner with extra steps.
@@cheezeball6109 Great idea. Of course, they are required to report those tips to their employer, and can get fired if they fail to do so, so that's a risk to.
@@alansach8437 There are easy ways around that. If the tip is on a card it is fully taxed. In cash, the server just comes up with a reasonable amount over the legal limit (9%) for the paperwork. Unless the owner is stealing employee tips, they don't care. Just make it look believable. It was the OWNER of a place I worked that TAUGHT his employees to do that! Even doing that, our paychecks after taxes were ALWAYS $0.00! That's what happens at $2.13 PH pay!
When the customer has to pay the waiter that’s kind of messed up. I come to the restaurant for a night out and to pay for my food I don’t go there to get a tablet pushed in my face asking 10% 15%. 20% in tip you have to be joking there should be a law that tips should be banned. The business owner needs to pay there employees better .
You're right, the tablets are so annoying. This entire thing has gotten so out of hand. Tips are supposed to be for good service, to reward someone for doing well. It shouldn't be an excuse to pay people less and force customers to compensate. The solution is to start ignoring peer pressure and people's fake moral demands.
If I’m at home or sitting down and someone is bringing me my food, then they get a tip. If I’m standing in line and the server is just ringing me up, that’s not a tip situation!
As a non-American observer, I find the tipping culture in America quite perplexing. Tipping should be a gesture of gratitude for exceptional service, not an obligation for performing one's job.
I am so resentful at this point that i seek out the no tip button when i do carryout. Prices are up, things are harder than at any time during my life. Then they try to guilt you into paying what you don’t owe. And ultimately that is what it is. You paying for something that you don’t owe anything for.
I’ve always tipped n to go food, for decades. They have to get my order right over the phone, pack up the food correctly, and customers in the store have to wait - all of which makes their service more difficult.
I went into crumbl once. The young lady behind the counter told me I had to place my order on the kiosk and pay there. Went over to it and started the order, all I wanted was one cookie for four dollars. On the payment screen, it gave me options to tip three dollars, four dollars, or five dollars (on my four dollar cookie) I canceled the order thanked the lady behind the counter, said I changed my mind and left the store. Help me to understand why staff feel they are entitled to a 50%, 75%, or 100% tip? They put a tray of premade dough in an oven, then took it out, and put a cookie in a bag. A waiter in a restaurant takes my order, relays it to the kitchen, carries the heavy tray of food out and serves it, gets my drink from the bar, then repeats the process for coffee and desert, before finally clearing and setting the table. He gets 20 to 30% (depending on service,) but this kid in the cookie store who does little actual work is worth 50 to 100%? That’s insanity! Crumbl lost my business because of their tip policy.
During my traveling through the US, the thing I disliked the most was tipping. After weeks I got the feeling that people are only polite or helpful because they might get a tip. Why not pay people a normal salary and trust your employees to do a good job? The whole “money talks” and “you are what you own” mentality is the root of the many problems the US society is facing.
The "low pay" is a myth. Restaurants are required to ensure minimum wage. Many states also have ruled rules to require minimum wage regardless of tip. The median pay is like $45k before tips. Official data are probably also underreported as restaurant workers here are notorious for receiving under the table pay and not reporting their income. If you just quickly browse social media, you'll find many claiming to take home 100k+ in total pay per year. People are complaining that restaurant workers are paid less than college graduates on the premise that "everyone deserves a livable wage". Btw, livable wage to Americans = being able to save and buy a house, go on international vacations every year, while being able to feed a family of 5, and buy them brand name gifts for Xmas every year. We dont have a low pay issue; we have an entitlement issue. So go head and tip them half without feeling bad. Or none if they treat you like just a job. There's no reason why a waitress should ever be able to not want to get a college education and find more valuable work because, and I quote, "they'd be taking a pay cut".
@@JoseGomez-rc5wvrespectfully Europeans are very kind and better at service with or without tips ❤ur comment shows u never have been here. Kindness and chivalry in the service sector should be naturally a rule without tips being a topic
This is interesting to talk about. I visited a coffee shop and just ordered a coffee to go. When I used my card to pay, an option to leave a tip popped up. I said no to the tip because in my opinion, a tip was not earned by just ringing up my coffee and taking my money.
@@malayaanderson8222 this was initially the intent for tipping. Those servers who made less than minimum wage, generally about $2 an hour was to be tipped. I have no qualms about tipping them but everyone else is over the top. They talk about "the service" industry, but every job "serves" someone. This will show how old I am but when I was a teen, $1.60 was minimum wage. There was one restaurant in our area who paid minimum wage. This company did not allow tipping. Where I worked, I was working for $1.15 and was tipped. I think employers are the issue now. They are allowing tips for people making at least minimum wage (which some places is $15 an hour now), so they don't have to give raises.
That is so wild tbh. I live in Mexico and I've never been asked to tip at any of the places most people complain about tipping (starbucks, mcdonalds drivethrough, mcdonalds counter etc) and it is weird since I'm pretty certain that these people earn less than say a starbucks worker in the US (cuz of dollars vs pesos). Like only places I'm expected to tip are restaurants, bars, the valet parking, the person that helps you carry/load the groceries at the supermarket, etc. Some of those (namely the valet and others like that) it's not even a percentage, most if not all people just give them like $20 (which is like 1 dollar).
My rule is I only tip if it’s deserved I don’t tip when picking up my own stuff, only restaurants that I sit down at and delivery drivers if I’m ordering takeout I’m there I’m picking it up
You're right that tipping should be a personal choice and the amount you tip should be relative to your own budget. The problem is that these people aren't paid enough so they rely on tipping to get the paycheck. So the employer is basically making YOU the customer pay their employees on top of whatever products you get from them.
@@Dan-di9jd yeah which shouldnt be our problem, if they really dont get paid enough (which they probably do because of minimum wage) the employers should pay them more
Not just tipping, now I can’t go shopping without being asked to make donations to charities while paying. Now I have to actively decline or peer pressured into tipping more than I want and donating my money. It’s ridiculous.
Not the multi trillion dollar Wal-Mart asking us if we want to donate to a hospital when it's a bunch of minimum wage people in there just buying food to eat with their rent money
It reminds me of the South Park episode where Randy goes to sprouts😂 in order to decline donating at the end of his grocery bill you need to pull a sandwich out of a starving girls mouth to confirm. So funny
And remember that the company asking for the donation then turns around and uses that amount as a tax deduction. Just make donations in your own name so you can claim it on your taxes…
I used to tip consistently and was extremely generous during the pandemic, but now, I'm avoiding places that always ask for a tip. I recently visited a Starbucks and bought a brownie, not heated. I did not leave a tip and was the only customer in the store. There was a group of three ladies who came in behind me.They all ordered food and drinks. They were all served their food which was heated and prepared, before I received my brownie. Coincidence? I live in California where minimum wage is at least $16.00 an hour, more in some cities. For me, it ruins the experience and just pushes me away from visiting food establishments. It's a treat when I buy a snack and being asked to leave a $1.00 or more tip for a $3.50 brownie seems excessive.
Auntie Anne’s pretzels asks for a tip now too. I declined and they didn’t give me part of my order. The line was so long I didn’t bother going back to complain. So I guess they got their tip after all.
As someone in the service industry, I absolutely agree that tips are optional and I personally look away when the tip screen comes up so as to not add additional pressure on people.
I remember when I worked for Domino's when they first started charging for delivery and didn't give us any of the delivery charge and our tips dropped to the bottom of the Mariana trench. It was absolutely theft of driver's tips. Recently there was a big deal over Landry's taking tips from tipped employees and giving them to non-tip employees so they didn't have to pay non-tipped employees. The move from cash to credit cards has allowed these employers to do all this.
Anyone not living in the US sees how absurd this really is. The employers shrug off the burden of having to pay a respectable wage while they profit off cheap labour.
It's even worse than that. Giant corporations like Walmart pay their employees so little many of them qualify for public assistance so we all have to reach in our pockets to pay for some of their housing, heating, food, etc. Walmart gets to keep all the profits and they socialize their labor costs onto everyone else. It's the ultimate form of forced tipping...
i find it worse in canada, they get paid minimum wage or more, yet the default tipping on machine starts at 18% if not 20%, i just never go out or get food anymore. the prices are so expensive
I don't get how it became like this. I mean, at some point in us labor History, people start to accept to work for tips. Why? It is a real mystery for me, why would anyone would accept this?
@@CHRIS3PHX Excuse me? Easier said than done. You act like there are endless wonderful jobs out there for people with benefits, great pay, good hours, etc. Stop living in a fantasy world.
they cant. Certian companys own most jobs. Infact if you quit and try to work another job. Theres a chance that company might be owned by the othe rone. And your sent exactly to where you started
No such thing as a livable wage. This line is echoed so many times and it makes no sense. It's not an easy fix. Some restaurants are making just enough to keep a roof over their head but if they are forced to pay increases wages that does not equal more customers walking in the door. And if the prices goes up, customers that have been coming will leave. Again, no such thing as a livable wage when everyones living conditions are different. If one employee has a studio and the other has 4 kids, what is a livable wage?
Firstly, what does "livable wage" even mean? Even without considering sometimes extreme differences between local costs of living, what one person can live without, or wouldn't even think to or want to buy, is another person's necessity. Absolute nonsense catch-phrase that has no commerce with the reality of the tradeoffs that we all make in accordance with what we value as individuals, or the financial or opportunity-cost consequences of our actions taken in accordance with those values. People have a tendency of not boiling down to a common denominator. In the USA, for jobs that pay the employee the minimum tipped wage (some variability by precise locality) of $2.13 per hour, the employer can pay that wage AS LONG AS the employee's wages plus tips for the pay period equals or is greater than the amount that they would have made at the regular non-tipped minimum wage of $7.25 per hour (again, some variability in minimum non-tipped wage by precise locality). If your employer pays you at the federal tipped-wage, say, as a waitress, and you clock 40 hours over a 1-week pay period, for example, and your gross pay is not at least $290.00 in combined wages and tips (specific numbers for this particular example only, obviously), your employer is legally obligated to get you there, to make up the difference between that and $85.20 plus tips (in this 40 hour example). If that isn't happening, go to the local DOL and file a complaint - you likely have a case. I'm not saying that the federal minimum of $7.25/hour is "making it rain," as the saying goes, or that a low-skilled job at any wage rate is going to be a middle-class family keeping up with the Joneses supporting career, but don't mistake the situation as people living on $2.13/hour alone. From personal experience and observation, it isn't at all that uncommon for a good waitress, to keep the example going, to come home with ~$300 in tips from one shift if it's a busy one. I don't make that kind of money for one day's work and I'm salaried at an offhand equivalent of $25/hour. I've toyed in the past with taking a waitressing or bartending gig a couple of nights a week around my day job for a change of pace and to make a little mad money. I personally would avoid a tipped job that forces pooling tips for end-of-shift distribution, though.
It’s truly outrageous, it’s everywhere and the 10% and 15% are rare to see as options on the iPads. I see from 18% to 20% to 25% in places that should not require any tip. When hanging with family or friends from abroad is when the realization of how slowly this has been feed to us becomes clear. It’s not normal to pay an extra 20% for someone putting together a cup of already overpriced coffee.
I stopped going to full service resturants, mostly because of tipping. People become very rude if you tip less than 15% and argue that "that's the way it is, you are breaking the rules", when, the industry just change their rules over time. If that's really the rule, I'll wait for that birthday free meal coupon and eat there paying zero tips, because 20% of $0 is still $0... I wouldn't do that in the past, nowadays I feel justified.
@@1plaintext you did the right thing and stopped going to restaurants and wasting servers time. People who go out and want to be served tip accordingly and knowing you're not one of them is half the issue.
I first noticed this was getting out of hand when I went to Cold Stone. I literally walked to their already made cupcakes, grabbed them out of the freezer, and then went to pay. The person asked if I wanted to tip. I was like, for what!? I got the item myself! Between the prices of fast food going up and expecting tips for every little thing, it's out of control. If you're charging more, then pay your people more! I know things cost more, but people aren't getting that increase. It goes to the corporate and higher ups. I don't tip at counters. That should be for full service sit downs. Even then, they should pay their employees more.
I tipped at Cold Stone few weeks ago. The lady made 3 ice creams though. I don't think you should tip on the cupcakes because they didn't make them. The cupcakes are actually brought in from another place. Basically they from a distribution center. At least that is what I remember reading on the package. I always tip when I am sitting down at a restaurant. Sometimes I will tip when doing take out from restaurant. If I am getting food from a vendor like the farmers market I will tip if I really like the food. I always tip at cookie crumbl too
I worked at a quick service restaurant and ay time the prices went up the managers, who do nothing if they can, get raises but not the employees busting their asses and they wonder why everyone wants to quit
if i'm going to tip i give the money to the person i want to tip. But are so many companies with strict rules for tipping where your money from tips is not really going to the ones you tipped. The companies actually use your tip money as their own income. Non taxable one that is... You should only pay the price if you agree with it and they should pay a proper wage to their employees.
@@somnorila9913 It's even worse when you actually read how the tipped minimum wage works legally. Tipped workers legally have the same minimum wage as everyone else, but tips are applied as a credit against the worker's wage until it hits the tipped minimum, so even if the person you tip keeps all their tips, the first several dollars each hour indirectly goes to the business itself as a wage credit. Then customers get blamed when the worker's don't get tips, when legally the business is supposed to pay them the full normal minimum wage if they don't get tips. Wage theft is worse than all other forms of theft combined and our society ignores it...
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Same thing here in China, sometimes I want to show my gratitude to someone who really did a good job, but giving them extra money almost seems like an insult to him/her.
People say we should tip them because they aren’t paid enough by their employers. Then, how come we don’t tip teachers, cashiers, front desk employees and others, who don’t get paid enough? Tipping should be an expression of gratitude for an exceptional beyond and above service and absolutely voluntary and never obligatory.
This Tipping and asking to add a donation at the POS terminal has annoyed me for years. I was unaware that Washington State required all employees to be paid the State Minimum Wage now which is $20 in the Seattle area. So now that I have learned this, I will not be tipping. If I want pizza or takeout I will go pick it up and pay with cash, so my purchase is not tracked and a customer profile is not so easily built. I encourage others to do this too as this culture has gotten out of hand. If you want to make the money of a highly skilled or professional person, then take the time to get that degree or professional accreditation. I am not required to subsidize your income because you chose a less skilled job. I am all about fairness of opportunity, not fairness of financial outcome. I do not get tipped for being an engineer, I get to keep my job, and I earn the respect of my colleagues and employer. Enough is Enough!
This. And not gonna lie, if tipping won't incentivize the management to take more advantage of these people, I would totally prefer to tip teachers and nurses than the cashier that rang up my take out dinner.....
People that use their own cars are like subcontractors... The driver apps do not pay hourly. Just the least they can get away with legally. The restaurant drivers like pizza hut and dominos make hourly.
I got literally no problem not tipping in some situations. Employers not paying a livable wage is not my problem. It sucks, but I’m not paying the gap. Like some fast food restaurants ask for a tip, it’s a big NO.
Generally speaking, the employees who are asking for a tip aren't paid even near what a teacher is. And that's saying something, because boy oh boy, teachers do not make enough! I work at a Sonic (fast food resteraunt) and our carhops (those who ring up and take out orders) are paid $4/h. That means they're only making $32 (excluding taxes) for a full 8 hour shift, or $160 for a full 40-hour week. They rely on tips just to eat. Which, of course, isn't the fault of the consumer- it's the fault of the company. I think it's crazy they're allowed to pay that little- especially since these are fast food servers, NOT true waiters/waitresses. Especially since they also have to do in-store tasks like cleaning, and making drink/ice-cream items- even helping out in the kitchen sometimes.
I went to a restaurant the other day, paid with the tablet and included a 15% tip. The cashier then printed the receipt and asked me to sign. Sure enough there was another line below that said "additional tip" after I had already tipped. I'm at the point where I don't care what people think. I'm no longer tipping if all they are doing is their job.
I think the problem isn’t with tipping for goods and services, it’s assuming that you will tip the employees like they are entitled to more of your money automatically. They took your option away from you without hesitation nor consideration for how you actually felt about your meal and service from the employees. You are well within your rights to stop tipping altogether
@Karl with a K waiters don't wish to wait on ppl with their heart and soul. U think a waiter is literally being someone's servant, bringing them food and drinks, cus it brings them fulfillment and enjoyment? They're doing it for the tips, it's their livelihood
This is the exact reason why I don't go back to the places that ask me to tip every time. These restaurants don't even realize this is actually scaring business away. I would be way more likely to go to these places if I was expected to carry extra money for tipping.
It is unfair to expect patrons to subside workers wages - through tipping. Customers are paying enough already. Employers should pay decent hourly rate. It is not for me to pick up the difference. I no longer eat out.
The amount you tip used to be based on the level of service that is provided. People who went out of their way to provide excellent services were tipped more (not always because of cheap people, but that is how it worked). For some reason tipping has become an extra added tax rather than a reward for providing good service. Tips are now expected for services where there is absolutely no extra effort put into the service.
The idea to give tip to someone for providing a good service is just wrong. It feels like disrespecting the person being tipped as if here's 3 dollars you poor servant, go buy an ice cream or something lol. And its stressful for the customers being forced to tip and not knowing the correct amount. Tipped staff exempt from minimum wage, what a horrible and disgusting idea.
@@georgechristou7982 I do not know who is deciding servers should only receive minimum wage if they obtain tips, this is wrong. Perhaps before accepting employment from those businesses, the applicant should ask that question. Personally, I think tipping should not be expected. But here in the United States it is an accepted practice. Customers are not forced to provide a tip, just expect that if you return or use that service again you will not receive excellent service, and perhaps if you have the same person, poor service or refusal of service. There is a base tip percent for those who do their job, then if you feel that the person did extra work you add to that. This is how incentives work, if you are tipped the same no matter how little you perform your task or how hard you do it, why would anyone work harder than the next person.
@@captglenn100 there should be a standard of performance below of which they get fired. It should be that either the service is good enough or not. There is no reason for "excellent" service. Either good service and continue working, or bad service and get fired.
@@captglenn100 that works for different companies though, not for different staff working in the same company. Capitalism is about rewarding the company that produces your selected goods. But tipping, is about optional reward to an individual for going "over and above" of what they have to do. So ,no I don't see any similarities between capitalism and tipping.
As a teacher, I'm still waiting for the ability to be tipped to open and close doors at pickup and drop off, grade, and respond to emails. Those take more additional work than most people tip for these days. Imagine if I gave worse service for not receiving a tip for those. That's exactly how ridiculous all tipping sounds to me.
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My major gripe with tipping in the US, tipping used to be a gratuity for great service. It has become a mandated charge regardless of how good or bad the service was. It annoys me that you are subjected to a guilt trip to subsidize an employees wages because the employer is too tight fisted to pay fair wages. I have heard the argument that tipping helps keep prices down. Frankly, that’s crap. Prices in restaurants, hotels cabs etc are on par with any other western country. In recent years, I have started standing my ground. I will only tip for good service. I will not reward someone who treats me with indifference, is patronizing or just plain rude.
Was 100% with you until the "standing my ground" part. The low-paid employee is the one suffering in your stand off. Seems a bit unfair - but maybe I misunderstood. Do you directly interact with the employers to let them know they shouldn't force us to subsidize the wage? If not, then I think maybe just avoiding service industry businesses would be the best way to stand your ground...
Couldn’t agree more. They have tip jars on the counter if someone hands a roll. You don’t get tipped for doing your job. You get tipped when you go over and above and do more than your job. Thats the only way you’ll see a tip from me
"You're being guilted into tipping on something that is not technically a service, someone simply doing their job." It's ALWAYS been someone "simply doing their job", that's the point. We've gone from rewarding people for going above and beyond to rewarding people for doing the bare minimum (i.e. THEIR JOB).
At a restaurant where someone is serving you, then tips make sense. They get like $4.00 an hour depending on your state. That's not worth excellent service. But I agree tipping at a coffee shop is sometimes a bit overboard considering they are just doing what they are supposed to be doing.
your comment is correct if your idea of a reward is getting paid decently for working in the first place. tips are bs, they force the customers to pay the workers wage.
I moved to the US from Australia for work and it has annoyed me no end how pervasive the demand for tips are here. You are effectively demanded to pay it, and usually BEFORE you get the service and yet the service is worse and slower than in Australia or other countries I’ve lived in where tipping isn’t expected.
Demand higher wages! Not only the service worker should go on strike, customers should join them as well. I cannot stress it enough how much bloodshed it would be in my country if this was allowed. Do americans ever protest for anything and get it changed? Because that is exactly why you have your freedom for.
Just got back from Europe last month and my mind was blown when I found out tipping wasn’t required or even an option!! It created a more straightforward dining experience, where the prices on the menu reflected the true cost of the meal. Unlike the US, it seems they have fair wages for service staff, reducing the reliance on tips to make ends meet.
I'm from Ireland and been living in the US for 7 years now and cannot get over the tipping thing here. I worked in hospitality for years in ireland and if I was ever left a tip from a customer I would be over the moon and happy but certainly not expected I made a decent wage to live. A woman gave me a cup to pour my own coffee in a cafe the other day and looked at me as if to say are you gona put a few dollars in the tip... ARE YOU INSANE?
It really has gotten worse over the last few years. A decade ago I was so grateful that a local fast food chain was open on Christmas Eve I tried to tip them but they wouldn't let me. (Hey I had to work Christmas Eve as my hardest day and family is just the worst sometimes) Years later same place has le tip cup and the sullen eyed girl glaring at you and it like she's a deaf mute with a chip on her shoulder.
I think we should be like other countries, get rid of tips, pay employees how much they should be paid, and price the food accordingly
Agree
You can think that all you want but it’s not gonna stop businesses from doing it
I was thinking the same thing.
Just don't tip, who cares what people think
I bet servers and bartenders would disagree
What bothers me is that employees would rather get upset at the consumer for not tipping enough rather than being upset at their respective industry for not paying a liveable wage
You truly hit the nail on the head - in spades!!!
We are upset it's too entrenched the restaurant lobby groups crush us at each turn.
This is exactly why companies have shifted to this model. They have shifted the blame of poor wages to the consumer, however it is the company's responsibility to pay their employees, not the consumer.
_IF_ the server did a good job, they would get better tips. I spent *YEARS* in the food-service industry. I've seen the most lazy, nasty servers make huuuuge bucks because customers were shamed into tipping. That needs to change! We need to bring back stiffing for servers who are not prompt, servers who are not courteous and servers who deliver bad food.
You're bothered that people raised in a particular culture expect that culture? Those servers were born and raised in a society that considers those jobs that receive tips. Of course they expect that, they've been seeing it their entire lives. Even before they ever had a job at a restaurant they saw servers getting tips. It's what they were taught to expect.
What bothers ME is all the selfish jerks who want to blame the servers for adapting to the culture they were raised in. Somehow at least 156 other people are self centered enough that they can't empathize with another person. It's always a shame to see people get self righteous while also being completely self centered and oblivious to the problem.
People love to tell everyone if you can't afford to tip you should stay home. They say you shouldn't be going out and having a good time if you can't afford to tip. I think the same should hold true for the businesses, if they can't afford to pay employee's the bare minimum wage and still be profitable then they SHOULD close up shop.
Absolutely!!!
And everybody wouldn't work there anyway if they got paid 8.25 an hour
I stay home.
I will only tip if they deserve the tip
If they cannot pay their workers properly should not have started the business.They want to guilt trip all the customers into thinking they are doing injustice to the workers if they pay anything less than 20%. Tip is supposed to be paid only if you like the service,a small amount of 5-10% as gratitude.
As a European, American tipping culture is the most ridiculous thing ever. Why should a customer/guest pay the wages of the workers through anything other than the price he pays for the service (food, drinks, etc.). Sure if you want to give a little extra because the server was excellent or the food was extremely good, it's fine but it shouldn't be necessary for them to make a living wage
Exactly!
Made nore sense with cash. When you give it to the business, how much makes it's way back to the worker? When you pay the worker directly and eliminate the middleman, the worker gets ALL of that money.
...Doesn't work as well with credit cards.
I was in Budapest about 20 years ago and thr other GIs in the bar talked about how tipping isn't a thing there, and didn't tip. A buddy of mine and I tipped equivalent of a dollar a drink (standard in the US at the time) and even when that place was later PACKED with people waiting to get the bartender's attention to get a drink, by buddy and I never waited for service. They would part the crowd and make sure we were always served, which is rational behavior. All things being equal, why wouldn't you sell your services for the higher price first?
@@cavav8r that's what should be the point though isn't it. You paid a small tip for better/good service, fine. If that's what tipping entails that's great (I'm from the Netherlands, we have that kind of tipping culture). If workers are dependent on the tips and you are expected to give 15-25% that's where you lose me. Especially when I hear even Starbucks asks for tips now (I'm sorry no one deserves a tip for using the espresso machine).
@@AMINOMMA Many other countries do the same. Even third world countries. The employers must pay liveable wage, The tip should entail that you're happy with the waiter and tip whatever you like no limit. But it's always optional.
can we get a law to ban tipping?
Its literally a way for employers to get out of paying there employees. Passing the responsibility to pay onto the customer.
💯. If I’m going to pay their salary, I want to do their performance review as well. And if I do that…I want a salary too. Don’t ever tip. I haven’t in 25 years.
Totally agree! I'm not getting paid to do some restaurant manager's payroll!
@@Bat_Boy True. Also, I doubt that all people getting tips are declaring them to the IRS.
@@Bat_Boy how do you not tip in restaurants without getting arrested? It is a MUST isn't it?
This is what walmart SPARK is doing! most customers dont know walmart doesnt pay the delivery drivers hourly. Sometimes they make workers wait HOURS in the parkinglot unpaid, to only deliver 1 order, for $8-11. They also are 1099- NOT W2 employees!
TIP YOUR DRIVER PLEASE!!!
"You're being guilted into tipping on something that's not a service. It's someone simply doing their job." This is absolutely true. I hate that companies are prompting customers for a tip when you went to the physical location and got what you ordered. It's not a tip when you are doing what you are hired to do. And as long as companies are able to guilt customers to foot the bill to cover their employees living, nothing will change.
this is what I have been saying. Like making a coffee is the job you get paid to do, you aren't waiting on me for an 1-2 hours like at a restaurant.
Many stand-alone full service businesses pay less than minimum wage, and the employees count on tips to make the difference in pay.
Why not ask the employees the next time you go to any restaurant before you blanket your response on tipping.
@@robertsmith4150 if they pay less then minimum wage,you can sue them when you leave the job and ask them repay it to you,that is law
get mad at the company/owner, not the employees who need the tips or else they'd need a 3rd job to pay rent.
But waiting on costumers is also what waitstaff is hired to do. They should be paid for it.
Tipping is designed to take the frustration worker have for their employer, who does not pay them fairly, and redirect it to the customer.
The employer is spared of blame, and the problem now becomes how generous the customer is.
100% accurate.
@@jeevang7853 Which also makes me (as a customer want to tip) because I'm afraid if I don't they'll spit in my food or something. They do a great job of turning us against each other.
Maybe that used to be true, but most of these employees are making a minimum of $15/hr now. It's ridiculous
THIS should be the pinned comment!! So true.
Its a symptom of a highly exploitative, failed economy
“I’m going to tip to ensure my safety”. That is BEYOND horrible and terrifying
Would be illegal in most countries. Guess the US is one of them, but you coudnt sue them for negligence if something happens, because thats too expensive.
It goes around in cycles.
Absolute essence of the USA. WAY more foreign to us than say the French.
I always feel like I'm paying a "Don't spit in my food" fee when I'm asked about a tip before actually getting anything.
I've stopped going to places for this, and have told managers and owners why. If you're demanding a tip for services that have not yet been rendered I don't feel safe about what those services will be.
@@nickrulzyou Thats how tipping works in the rest of the world .We tip for exceptional service and not because the person feels entitled to my money even though they dont work for me.
If you are that neurotic, then you probably shouldn't be eating out.
@Nick Wrightsel I assume you tip generously?
A least 25% on takeout ?
The worst they make money. If you can get 5$ tip on 40 people. Thats makes 200$/hour salary rate. As it the dude was a doctor or dentist
I ordered a pizza and went to the restaurant to pick it up. I unabashedly clicked on “No tip”. I already paid for my pizza, you have no right to expect a tip simply for ringing my pizza up. I refuse to feel pressured or guilty about not tipping.
I now pay online to avoid the whole situation - just give them your order number and be off.
Good for you! Hold the line. I live in California, where they DO require a state minimum wage even for tipped employees, unlike the federal law. Yet they ask for tips for everything here now, including buying a pen at a stationary store! I don't feel any shame, only anger. I will go out of my way to take more time on the tablet to hit no tip, even if they make it hard to find that option, I don't care if I'm holding the line or the cashier is staring at me. You don't reward bad behavior, you stand your ground.
If someone’s delivering or serving you then yea tip but not if you’re grabbing takeout
@@gigiflaner3568 It is large companies taking advantage of the kindness of people.
@@oooh19 Yup if I get to eat my meal first THEN pay I'll leave a tip. If I have to pay for my food first before eating it, then I don't tip. Only exception for me are buffets. Don't even get me started on take out ... expecting a tip for that is just
I went to a cookie shop with my mom a few months ago, we walk in, both politely said “hello”, the cashier didn’t even respond just straight up stared at us, even while we were looking at different cookies. My mom said “are you going to speak or just stare at us?”, he eventually spoke but he didn’t really want to. When we bought our cookies he did the tip flip and we put no tip. The receipt printed, instead of handing it to us he took it and looked at it for 5 seconds and THEN handed it to us while shaking his head. These places want tips but can’t even give bare minimum customer service. It’s annoying af.
they should be trained to greet customers, either the management didnt train them correct or they did and the employee is refusing to greet, so either way no tip should be awarded until both issues are resolved.
Your mom’s an OG!!!
Seems like the worker was very tired and forced to come to work. Even though the service was quite bad I don't think they are fully to blame-- consider how management is not paying them enough or not giving people sick days
So, a song and dance for $2.75/hr + tips?? Employee needs to be more up beat, selling cookies at a counter for a living? How about their employee pay them a decent wage and tip is something a customer just feel like doing but not obligated?
@@bharris4517 American women are "OGs" and that's why nobody wants to live with them.
I was in the US once for one month and because of how expensive and annoying stuff like those tips are I will never come back. Also it’s incredibly annoying to always calculate how much tax you have to pay.
Yup...if you advertise a cake for $3, then i'm paying $3, not $3 + tax + tip...
At JFK airport there is a SELF checkout drink stand that asks you for a tip when you buy a bottle of water when you literally do not interact with any workers at all.
Do you wish to tip tippy the AI system ?
I don’t think I have seen that in any us airport.
@chili_420_2 HI Talkie the Toaster here! Toasting is my game. Would you like some toast? Or a bagel? And don’t forget to tip!
- This is a British TV reference from Red Dwarf
Fr, also some Stadium Venues have this same system. A self pick self checkout thing, and they still ask for tips??? Wtf
You know why? Because you get always more by asking. So, companies ask you if you wanna pay more. And some will pay.
European visiting America recently. I went to an Amtrak train station with my disabled child in a wheelchair - immediately a very helpful red coat person ran up to us and took the wheelchair and wheeled us the whole way to our train. Just as we lifted the wheelchair up the steps he basically stuck his hand out. That was the worst example of many others over a few weeks, where having a wheelchair was an absolute burden as you had service workers run to help you without asking, and then having the social awkwardness of feeling obliged to pay them.
What an awful way to run society, making everyone cynical of each other's motives. Helping other people should mostly not have an immediate and expected pay off.
You’re right, of course. It used to be like that but, unfortunately, our society is rapidly moving away from that standard on both Coasts. I got disgusted with the politicians ruining California, so after a lifetime in Orange County, I left California and resettled in the Midwest. I found a whole different world. People are so helpful and polite, and eager to help. Sadly, my fellow Americans can keep the Coasts.
Completely wrong. Your example is just kindness and dealing with kind workers. They should not expect a tip and I doubt they are expecting a tip also. The idea of tipping is rewarding good service. That is why you tip your servers, bellman, valet, and bartenders. I have personally worked as a bellman before. I was able to use my average tip amount to see if the service I was providing was good enough. It was an incentive to provide good service. And no, don't think it was the hotel not paying enough. We got a free, high quality food, good breaks, and got paid over minimum wage.
That’s such a twisted view…
This example portrays what it’s like to see other humans just as customers/money bags that should pay for literally everything.
It reduces human interaction to a financial model. Should I ask for a tip when I hold the door open for someone? (Why stop at your job, when you basically „work“ for people in your everyday life?)
I ordered some supplies from a local pet supply store and I didn't get them for 2 days. The excuse I was given was I didn't offer a big enough tip. When I was growing up a tip was a way of thanking somebody for a very good service. The joke eventually was on the driver because even though I put down $4 as a tip for bringing my order 2 miles, and it was just a cardboard cat scratcher and cat claw trimmers. How do I order cat litter and cat food I would have offered a much bigger tip, but I put in the order instructions to knock on my door. I had planned on giving the driver a few more bucks in cash but the driver ignored the delivery instructions so they didn't get their extra money
Bro we dont care europe is a complete shithole, you know better than we do but believe us we know damn well how grotesque and snobby it is out there
Business owners paying their workers less than minimum wage and then convincing them the responsability lies on the customer is one history's greatest finesses.
So what? You are not required to tip. Are you a sheep and tip out of fear?
@@answerman9933 Only tools and bootlickers defend bad business practices.
@@OronoDiane So, if someone tips are they effectively supporting the business or the employees?
They want to make you think that tipping is for the employee but I feel this is for the employer to excuse themselves from higher wage. It has gotten crazy lately.
I tip everywhere I go, because I want the person keep showing up to work. Don't tip and just get everything from Amazon and don't tip your driver, I guess. Tippers makes the universe turn. Everyone should thank tippers because non tippers are receiving some of the benefits of those tips. Your more likely to get good service or at least a quality worker that just might be doing the job of 2 people due to tips. If you constantly get horrible service, maybe it's easy to see you're a non tipper or you just miserable or maybe just funny looking and they don't want your money anyways, but they provide services in hopes of getting you out of there quickly, so they can get a tipper next. Non tippers lack compassion and generally are bare minimum kind of people, with empty lives and no REAL friends. Who doesn't tip? Wow, no friend of mine, that's for sure.
I am still in shock when i get the terminal to pay at a restaurant and the options for tip START at 18%.
Who died and made you eligible to 20% tip? Ask your employer for better pay, customers SHOULD NOT be forced for tips.
Are people forced to tip in the USA?
You don't have to tip and I don't have to give you good service. See how that works. It's worked for decades.
@@toddj9548 Did you even watch the video, or just jump into the conversation, ignorance in-tact?
@@ichijofestival2576 well let me tell you ichy festival, I’ve worked in the service industry for 40 years, so there is no ignorance of tipping in the US. Believe me, I understand fully.
@@toddj9548 Sure, and I don't have to come back to the place you work at for the rest of my life. Funny how that works.
I am also disgusted by businesses that charge a service fee (like delivery) and then ask for tips for that same service a second time.
Right?! So annoying. I just type zero lol
Like Amazon grocery delivery 🤬
You should be disgusted that their employees literally survive off of tips because they are being so inadequately paid
@@zaclangdon3218 Nobody cares about that, they're just upset they're getting guilted by pixels and don't have a backbone to say no, so they're mad online.
@@zaclangdon3218 If you get rid of tipping culture they would actually get payed. And not have to really on the wims of strangers. Tipping is a scam benefiting the employers not the workers.
I am an American in Paris and I was appalled at the amount of times I was asked to tip in the US and the amount expected in restaurants. Employers should PAY their workers a liveable wage. We should not be living in a tip dependant society!
They main opponent to any legislation that appears to do away with tipping is not actually tipped employees. If you hear ads on tv or radio, usually with the slogan "Save Our Tips," they are always funded by restaurant owner associations. The current system allows them to pocket the revenue from the sale, while the customer pays the employee's wages. Changing that would eat into their profits (oh, sorry for the pun).
In my state, there is a clause in employee compensation law that states employees can be paid below minimum wage if they have average tips that give them the minimum wage.
I agree, it’s ridiculous and out of control. The worst thing is that Americans travel to other countries where tipping is not expected yet they tip anyway and are now habituating the locals to expect tips from foreigners. I was in a country which I won’t name; their restaurant workers are paid a full wage with benefits. I was with a friend of mine and he suggested I tip the server. I asked the cashier about it and was told it was not necessary and not expected. He confirmed the servers were paid a full wage with benefits and did not expect tips. My friend guilted me into tipping anyway.
Tipping used to be a sign the customer appreciated a service that went above and beyond what is expected. Nowadays it is there, as a matter of fact, systematically, to supplement the worker’s meager salary that the employer can’t afford or doesn’t want to pay his or her employees. We are all subsidizing business owners for their lack of ethics and accountability towards their employees. In some cases, business owners cannot afford to pay their employees more, I get it, and at some point we need to take a hard look at our priorities as a capitalistic society and treat employees with more dignity. I understand this is not as simple as it sounds but other countries manage, so we should too.
@@EdLavender What I hate are restaurants that charge $7 for a draft 12 oz Yuengling.
Didn't I see you featured on a CNBC video yesterday?
I agree 1000% I am sick of being asked to place a tip on a service that has not yet been completed
are you supposed to tip the self check out machine at home depot?
@@henryhenry271 You were not supposed to tip a cashier at a grocery store (where you picked up the items you want and brought them in just to pay at the cash register), but that changed and now you have those guilt-shame tip-begging tablets everywhere... It's only a matter of time when the same will happen on the self-checkout side as well.
I would just walk out unless they put it off until the service had been rendered.
The tip goes to the the top 1% LoL !
I’m wondering why it asks people to tip the cashier
As a Turkish, I feel the establishment is obliged to properly pay their team and tips are just corrupted hidden fees. Show me the real cost upfront! If coffee is 4$ without tip, make it 7$ and remove the tips. Efficient, transparent, honest.
I've actually had an employee at a Subway restaurant who told me NOT to tip from the machine when prompted because the owner was keeping all of it and not giving it to the employees.
You should go back and mention to them that to do so is considered wage theft and that the employees should talk to a lawyer.
@@DefiningDaveQuite true, but I would guess most Subway employees would need to be put in contact with a pro bono lawyer.
Subway is an awful company
That boss should be in prison for a couple years. I'm not exaggerating.
I had something somewhat similar happen at Sally Beauty last month. I bought $14 worth of product, and when the option to tip $1, $2 or $3 popped up on the screen, the employee apologized and cleared it out. I'm used to that at live music merch stands, and between that and my LMT sister I've learned that unless there's a cash tip jar, employees only see a small fraction of the amount. Same principle applies to most sit down restaurants, and I ALWAYS leave a cash tip
A student of mine has spent six months in Canada on a student exchange program. When she came back she told us how she was expected to tip everyone who worked in services and how it was a problem for her with her limited pocket money she received. Here in Poland you only tip waiters in restaurants or cafes, 10% is the maximum amount you would give and only if you were very happy with the service. So, dear American employers, it is not the customers’ business to pay your emoloyees’ wages. It’s time you sorted it out and started paying the people you employ a salary they can live on.
It's the same here. Those being fooled into this have only themselves to blame.
As for the employers. They got greedy during covid when Americans felt bad for closures and business struggles. We gave a little extra. They now think we should be able to part with that money the same as we did then.
Part of the video even seems to plead acceptance. I don't think so.
Finally the one asking for pre tips before a service is even given should be sued for intimidation tactics. Because that's all it will lead towards.
I was in Canada recently. Prices without tax, with almost mandatory tip, for giving me bread in the bakery, from a shelf to my hand. It looks like you were scammed in America.
I'm living in Canada and I just honestly ignore all this tipping garbage. Only tips I give are at a restaurant or my hair dresser, as those were always traditionally tipped. Why is my local sandwich joint or pizza joint asking for tips? No way that's happening. My coffee joint (Tims) thankfully doesn't ask for tips, but you can bet I wouldn't give them any either if they did. It's out of control and way worse across the border in the US.
The best tip you can give to a location is coming back and recommend then to others
Corporate: the best we can do is 7.25
If a company asks for a tip before service and it starts at 20% I immediately hit NO TIP. 100% guilt free
Yeah it’s stupid. I am a bartender and delivery driver and I think that tipping thing is stupid. When I am making cocktails or deliver food, I don’t ask you to tip until I’m done with the service and even then I don’t guilt trip you into anything I just make the drink, deliver your food and walk away it’s my job. Guilt, tripping and nearly forcing customers to tip even before the service is unconstitutional and almost like a bribery and a Third World country.
Yeah because you could be tipping for crappy service. I only tip places I've been to numerous times and give great service.
@@DanWick26 same here. I only tip if I get good service if it’s terrible service, I don’t tip at all. When I was bartending in Miami Beach, owl were tips were included in everyone’s paycheck and in some areas like Ocean Drive or the big tourist destinations they have 20% already added on to your bill.
@@Stevesguitartraveling777 Most third world countries don't ask for tips, they get paid by their employers.
@@xMorningShadowx lol even Third World countries know tipping is stupid
it is simple… do not tip.
It is your money.
i bring business to the restaurant.
If that restaurant is disrespectful and/or abusive, i just do not return with my family to that restaurant.
Tipping is OK. Nice thing to do if you're well treated.
Whoever said it was legal to pay employees less because they make tips is the cause of this problem.
Absolutely, I can't agree with you more.
They realize they could make people pay more than they needed because a tip can not be given before the service. It's bribes.
In most cases, the employer has to pay the employee the difference if they don't get tipped at least up to minimum wage, correct?
Pay cash. Problem solved
In California min wage is $15.50 including tipped employees -- and they still having tipping.
I recently took a holiday to the US and I found the whole tipping thing to be incredibly stressful, so much so that by the end of the holiday I was actively avoiding situations where I would be expected to tip.
Just don't tip. It isn't a right. Many workers don't need tips, but just expect it now.
I avoid holidaying there for this reason. Just the thought of having to tip every time I eat or need a service is stressful.
As someone from the U.S, you are not alone. I feel so pressured to tip even when I am picking my food up. I hate it but it’s the work culture here.
I feel like we should only tip when the person goes above and beyond. Not for doing their job. And that’s speaking as a hairstylist.
So the grocery store?
Hell I live in the US and I actively look to avoid situations where I have to tip too.
As a non-US citizen, I find it absolutely mind-boggling that it's legal to exempt certain workers from receiving less than minimum wage. What part of "minimum" is unclear?
It is illegal to hire someone and not pay the minimum wage in the USA. Workers are being paid at least the minimum wage or the business owner will be closed down.
@@thakiusmuckfeather1103 Yea I was working as a jett's pizza delivery driver and they only paid me 5 (minimum wage was 8.25 at the time).
Whats worse is that they were taking advantage of the loophole by hiring extra drivers to make us wash dishes for 5 bucks an hour!
@@thakiusmuckfeather1103 nope, a dominoes pizza delivery driver only gets paid $4 an hour. If the customers don’t tip, the driver literally looses money on gas. Employers are always good at exploiting their workers.
@Darren Ellis it is federal law that if they don’t make the minimum with tips the employer has to make up the difference
The restaurant business has always been exempt from those requirements.
The first time I arrived in the US as European, I quite literally couldn’t figure out what’s going on. I ordered a sandwich at a deli shop to go, paid for it and was then asked why haven’t I given the waiter some more cash. I asked if the waiter was in dire need, maybe his family member died, maybe he was sick or sth. The guys just looked weird at me. I didn’t want to offend nobody so I gave them some money but it felt weird. Like, how much money do you give someone if he’s in so much trouble he literally has to ask a customer for money. I felt bad about it for the rest of the day but then it kept happening - literally everywhere. After like the 10th time I messaged by American friend literally asking “if there’s a pandemic or sth like that happening cos everyone’s asking me for money”. And I don’t even come from a rich country or anything. I arrived in one of the wealthiest countries on the planet, having flown in from (back then) one one the poorest countries in Europe. My friend explained that this was tipping and something that’s just expected of customers to do everywhere I go.
I still feel weird about it. How do you guys live with that? I mean. It’s just crazy. The guys I was tipping (after I learned that that’s expected in the US) were surely earning more than 5 times what I was making. Even without tips.
We have none if that where I come from. People just get paid for doing their jobs. If they do them poorly - they get fired or miss out in promotions. If they feel underpaid, they just leave for another job. I am still flabbergasted that in the US, a first world country, the land of the free etc. you still have employees literally begging customers for money. Going as far as demanding handouts from customers poorer than them.
There's your mstake...thinking america is a 1st world country (and not a banana republic with a lot of individual dictators), and as for a free country...ha ha, don't make me laugh...
Being asked to tip on uber before the order is even picked by a driver is absolutely insane
That's a double edged sword. We order via Ubereats maybe once a week. Mainly a dessert on a Saturday evening. I usually set the original tip amount low. The driver has the option to accept it or not. If I feel the service was above my "mental bar", I have the option to tip more within an hour of delivery. I'm honest.... After working all week, I'm way too lazy to go get something. So this person is driving to get my stuff, probably waiting for it, then delivering it to my door step. All because I don't feel like going to get it. If it arrives in a timely manner and I see they took precautions like using an insulated bag..... Yeah, I'll boost that tip and they will get a nice surprise in an hour. But again, I don't feel "pressured" into it like these stores are now doing.
I don’t do a tip. I give the person cash when they arrive because l will be at home. I think the restaurants should also seal the bag some way so it can’t be opened.
Uber and doordash drivers have the choice to take the order or Decline the order when it pops up. Which is why they ask to tip first. Each order only pays 2 dollars by the company so Most people skip orders with no tip or less tip. With gas being so expensive 2 dollars to picking up, drive and deliver while spending gas is not worth it. Especially sometimes it takes forever for the restaurant to have your order ready. The non tip orders then go to combined orders or drivers who need to boost their acceptance score. Pretty much if you want your food fast tip.
@@cauliflaa9910^this. I've done door dash for years and less than 10 percent of deliveries will increase their tip after you are done. If you accepted every delivery as it was and you aren't in a major metropolitan, you will find out quickly you will lose money and be paying for the convenience of working and beating on your car. That's why door dash just introduced being able to be paid by the hour (from the moment you hit accept). It was to solve this problem because drivers were actively sharing how hilariously low their acceptance rates were
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't services like Postmates and Uber Eats already charge an insanely high delivery fee before even asking for tips anyways? (I remember it being like 50% of my order cost...) And to my knowledge this delivery fee is partially for paying its drivers. So why the tip? That's like adding on a tip and then asking for a second tip.
Tipping has always infuriated me. When I went to New York, I was asked to tip like 15% for the bartender to literally open a bottle of beer - it's honestly wild. You breathe and they expect a tip. It's so engrained in U.S. culture that staff get annoyed when a customer doesn't tip, but doesn't get annoyed about a multi-million dollar restaurant not paying you a fair wage. It's simply just a way for companies to make more profit whilst you (the backbone of the business), rely on customers gratuity.
In a realistic world, if everyone decided to not tip, companies will literally be forced to pay their staff a wage to keep their employees.
Problem is we are in fact annoyed at the million/billion dollar corporations who refuse to pay decent wages but there's nothing we can do and if we don't end up getting tipped we don't make enough to live. And that's how the filthy rich like it
You know what’s crazy? You could have bought a case of beer and enjoyed that at home. Do you understand what I’m saying or should I go in further?
@@tjblackmore3247 viewpoints like this irritate me as they excuse the selfish actions of greedy corporations. Employers should be paying their employees a livable wage and if they can't do that, then they shouldn't be in business. Guilt-tripping people into tipping for unnecessary things even if the service wasn't good is NOT the direction America should keep going in. You should tip if you have the money and feel the service was exceptional, while at the same time the employee should be making a livable wage and should not rely on tips to pay the bills, that's insane.
Its especially bad when the restaurant adds a automatic gratuity charge for less than a large group, then complain you didn't tip. One place I went to added 20% automatic gratuity then had the nerve to add in "Add Additional Tip" with suggestions in the 15%+ range. So if you weren't paying attention, you would literally put in a 40% tip because you are used to paying 20% at restaurants (assuming you usually tip that much that is). BTW, they added the automatic gratuity for 2 person table AND calculated the tip based on Total not Subtotal.
Edit: Its probably even higher since the automatic gratuity is included in the total, therefore the suggested "additional tip" is actually even higher.
@@Yuh-iq9tl He's right. If people realize that staying home and getting your own food/drinks is cheaper, then these horrifically over-bloated restaurants will die off. It's the perfect solution.
I absolutely have no problem selecting “no tip” when presented to tip.
Exactly and just smile in their faces 🙂
I have encountered a lot of payment screens with out the option of “no tip” or “skip” . Also I wonder if these tips go to the actual workers instead of the business owner pockets. No way to control it.
@@cachorrodetiger This is a common negative pattern. It gives you the illusion that you have to tip. When this happens next, just immediately try to pay with your card and it will force the skipping of the tip screen.
Yup. I'm not going to encourage employers to underpay their workers. I'm also not going to tip someone for doing something that has low variability in quality.
@@cachorrodetigerhit custom amount then hit zero and submit.
The tipping point is when some businesses say "No tipping, we pay a living wage". These businesses become more and more popular and succeed. There are several in the town where I live doing this.
This is the way.
the tipping point 😀
@CH yeah I work in a kitchen and the servers make 4 an hour while I make 12 an hour, last night I asked one of the servers how much she ended up making in tips and she made $400. She made 4x more than me for the same amount of time at work.
Every time a restaurant tries it I hear they switch back or close down, needs to be the norm rather than the rare exception for it to catch on. I'm worried we're going backwards, most fast food and takeout places ask for tips now.
@@austins3215 A cook actually needs talent...A server just needs to bring the food to the table...what an injustice.
I definitely have started falling into the “resentful” category. I started tipping for everything, anytime that screen swiveled around I paid 18-20%. Now I am resorting back to just tipping on the services that I tipped on a few years ago (servers, hair stylists, nail salons, etc), I don’t care if anyone judges me. I’m not paying a tip on something like a bolba drink lol…
Yeah, I had paid like $11 for a smoothie at Jamba, and a tip is expected on top of that. It’s already so overpriced, like what? I did tip though.
Yep same, I'm back to the actual services, done tipping take out
@@user-sf9gs2pg1b I'm from europe and they ask me for a tip lol, I simply said no and told them to ask for better wage to their boss... I dont understand it so overpriced in la and las vegas and still they can't pay their workers good? Wtf in europe our foodprice is more expensive but we manage to put good price for costumers and pay workers good standard wage...
I found that I only started doing it so they don't spit in my food/drink lol.
I don’t think any1 with a brain is judging you
The worst is when the server holds the device in their hand while you're entering the information. It feels more like an interrogation than payment for a service.
That's begging for a No Tip button press.
That happened to me in Starbucks drive-thru. I pressed no tip, got my items that I drove there to get, and then left. It is ridiculous with these tips.
That actually just happened to me. I’ve never experienced it before.
Only people I tip are bringing me food n drinks to my table when I want them
Just press the button that says zero.
I protest the tip culture by reducing the service I receive as much as possible. It's just ridiculous to be presented a tip screen for people doing the bare minimum job requirements like giving you the item you ordered at the counter.
It honestly makes me want to just avoid eating out. Glad this video is highlighting this issue.
Just pay with cash. Pay the check, leave no tip (unless the waiter was extremely professional).
It’s not just at restaurants where you’re being asked to tip. I have ordered things online directly from the small business owner and it has asked me how much I want to tip. 0% is always my answer. If you aren’t charging me enough for your product or service, then that’s not my problem.
Don’t avoid eating out, just don’t tip and don’t feel about it. That’s what I do.
Duchebags in other industries without tips don't want to tip when they are making over 100k a year
@@amyschmelzer6445 exactly bro, why should we pay them for doing their job?
After living in Japan for 5 years, where tipping is not a thing and even considered an insult, I am all for getting rid of tipping and forcing companies to pay their employees an actual wage.
tipping is a thing in Japan it's already included in the bill your food is higher priced. 😉japan just forces you to do it automatically without objecting 🤣
@@SlickRickTPBThat's not a tip, dummy.
@@SlickRickTPBSure buddy, suure.
@@SlickRickTPBAs a Japanese who's been to america, I can say America's tip culture is totally different from japan's service fee system. You have to pay the service fee in japan only when you stay at a hotel or eat at some fancy restaurant. Moreover, that extra fee is not the main source of income for employees in japan.
@@SlickRickTPB Yes, of course, when you pay, you pay for the service, food, coffee, or anything the restaurant or café offers. This is known in countries that do not make their employees beg for their rights in exchange for the work they do. In addition, customers feel more comfortable when they do not have to pay different amounts for the service. Personally, I do not think that tipping is bad, but if it is necessary, it should be one option, either 10 percent of the bill, or 15 percent more than that. I think that restaurant and store owners are trying to give their employees their salaries from their customers in a dirty scam. The store owner gets his profits and leaves his employees in front of... Customers to collect their salaries. Are we in the Middle Ages? For your information, I am not from America, and my country does not have a standard for tipping. I was confronted by an employee. I gave him change as a tip, but he asked for more. All I did was ignore him because he has no right. He gets a salary. If it is not enough, this is his problem. He should solve it with the employer, not with the customers.
The craziest part is at those quick-service restaurants and coffee shops where they ask for a tip on the tablet, you haven't even been given what you purchased yet. So I'm expected to tip when I do not even know if my coffee was made right or my meal??!
Press No Tip.
@@BethJehovah yeah that’s what I do, I just hope the workers don’t spit in my food knowing I didn’t tip them 😂
@@LJ_S1K If I thought the place was surly and sour mannered I wouldn't go there.
If you do not tip like Five Guys in Rio Rancho, NM your will get bad service like the bun will be served cold.
@@Mamang_Sorbetero Then I wouldn't step in there ever again. Sounds like a horrible shop.
I was in the US last year. I was surprised that tipping has almost become mandatory. Good thing that tipping is not like that here where I come from.
I have absolutely no problem pressing "No Tip" in front of the employee. I am not tipping for any to go order, I tip when I sit down and a waitress waits on me and I tip if someone delivers to my house.
There is a level even worse than this... some businesses the cashier will verbally ASK you "would you like to add a tip?". That is straight up forced consumer guilt.
You should tip when you pick up an order from, let's say, an Applebee's or Outback, because you are taking up that servers time. They have to put your order together when they could be seating somebody that would pay them something. I think the minimum of 10% should be paid for picking up an order like that, not at a fast food place or a Starbucks.
@@nahor88 Taos Cow ice cream shop in Taos NM, ordered a scoop of ice cream, gave her the cash, i had .85 cents coming back, she straight up threw it in the tip jar as if she was entitled to it.
@@suew4609 they’re being paid an hourly wage, and it’s called multi-tasking. I only tip if I eat in a restaurant, not when I place orders to-go and/or for pick-up.
@@iiMISSBUNNY Well you're welcome to do whatever you do. I just know from my kids' server experience that at some restaurants there is one person assigned to do the call ins and internet orders. Sure they get their minimum wage, but it's only $2.13 in many states. I don't like to cheat them on their tips!
I'm from Germany, we have a tipping culture, but it's basically only in actual restaurants with service, hair dressers, taxi drivers, stuff like that. And it's more like 5-10% and not really required.
Anyway, when I was visiting the US and they showed a "tip tablet" in my face at an ice cream place, I was utterly shocked. It's absurd how they hide the "no tip" button as well.
I'm sorry, but I won't tip for Ice Cream or a Smoothie, that was overpriced to begin with.
I worked at an ice cream shop and half of my income was tips. However I always felt weird showing every customer the tip tablet and if it was me I wouldn’t want to tip. I just wished my boss would pay us more….
if you can charge me $20 to get 2 ice creams after a date you can pay the guy scooping the same per hour
Tipping really was supposed to be for services like restaurants hairdressing etc in America. It’s just that because there’s a culture of it that other services (Including ice cream) Will try to see if they can get more money out of you now.
Appropriate tipping is 15% here. More or less the golden standard. Otherwise funny looks (I think)
Just say no. It's not hard.
@@crismcdonough2804it's not hard if you have sociopathic tendencies, but for the rest of us, it is, and that's what has driven the tip inflation.
Companies need to step up and pay their employees more. Don't leave it up to the customers to provide decent wages!
Agreed. Doordash for example only pays drivers on average $2 per order. At 2 - 3 orders an hour it's impossible to pay for gas let alone every other living expense without relying on tips.
With the rising costs of rent, it seems everyone needs to get paid $100k or more. Some hairdressers are earning 6-figure salaries on tips alone.
@@muny_manNO WAY!!! $2 per order!!?? I thought they paid minimum hourly wages.
They’ll turn it around and increase their services and products if left in the hands for people to tip
Why on earth do you think customers won't pay for employees if they increase the wage. Even if corporations are going to increase the wage, their costs are going to go up for which they are going to increase the price of the product. Basically the customer pays the same or maybe even more if they increase their profit margin from the existing one.
As a German who lived in France, The Netherlands and now in Colombia I still can't understand why you are doing that crazy ride.
When I was in Spain, a restaurant owner invited my family and I to eat “on the house”. After dinner we tried to leave a tip and he declined for them because he said he paid them very well. He said only in America do restaurant owners not pay their staff well and expect them to survive on tips. That was 2018.
@@bksvdbthe workers are not the scoundrels though
As a Spanish and well travelled I can confirm this
America is in fact over rated
My son lives in Spain, and he says it's hard to explain to people what a tip is. They all say, well that doesn't make sense.
The minimum wage for employees who receive tips is $2.13 per hour.
I lived in US for 8 years and actually had a man shout at me for not "tipping enough". So much entitlement and aggression should NOT be encouraged! 😢😢
That's because the US is just a third world country in disguise. We don't get paid enough and rely way too much on tips, more than the state, government, or even the business you work for, would like to admit.
From my experience, people who get angry about others who don't tip are usually the ones struggling because they're stressed from being on the verge of eviction
He cannot live without those tips, he gets paid $4.15 to be there and then has to pool tips with the rest of the staff, then it's taxed because they don't give tips in cash anymore. So your $4.15 potential of $9 is now $6 because of how many times the pie is sliced
@@Weneedaplaguenot the customers problem.
@MangoMochis you shouldn't get mad on her. She is probably new and young. She did her job for you and you being cheap not paid her for her work. Waitress is getting paid by work they do not by hr. If you worked a week and not get paid. How would you feel. Have more empathy for your waiter and waitress
Many builders, plumbers and craftsmen are also paid by the work they do, but they are smart enough to not work for free. If waitress is an employee, he/she should receive appropriate compensation for her work, which is paid by the employer and not by random generosity of strangers.
Here in Norway, a taxi driver would look at you weirdly if you were to attempt to tip them. Tipping is basically just at restaurants, and anything above 10% would really raise some eyebrows. No tipping is also fine, the wages are good and well regulated by the state.
This is how it should be. Similar here in Scotland.
If you have any significant amount of Norwegian cash in your wallet you should be prepared to be reported to the authorities as being a suspected drug dealer. Otherwise simply round up the amount on a bill, say from 142kr to 150kr and everyone's happy.
"controlled by state" will look like as commie when you say that in USA 😂😂
@@agungwiseno In Sweden we have no minimum wage but we have a system with unions that's not broken and not under constant attack from right wing media. Just like mentioned above, 10% is normal at restaurants..
@@agungwiseno this communism rhetoric was the greatest scam ever. Actually, most of the world is not capitalistic. I see Americans and Chinese people have sth in common. The best thing is to go on holiday to Europe.
I'm an American hospitality worker. Guests/customers should NEVER be asked for a tip under any circumstance. If they want to tip, let them, but don't guilt them into it.
Très certainement. Cette situation ressemble de plus en plus à celles des villes balnéaires du Maroc, où les enfants essaient par tous les moyens de porter vos valises pour recevoir un peu d'argent.
If you need to ask for a tip, you don't deserve the tip.
I remember one time I went to a bar at a music venue and ordered two beers for myself and my uncle. The bartender reached into the fridge, opened two tall cans and handed them to me. Then when he passed me the card reader, it gave tip options of 18%, 20%, and 25%. I skipped the tip option and payed the already ridiculous price for two beers. When I handed the card reader back, the bartender gave me a disgusted look when he saw I didn’t tip. I just couldn’t believe that he genuinely thought I would tip him 18% for just reaching into a fridge and opening two beers. Modern-day tipping culture is terrible and it’s crazy how society is expected to tip large amounts for the most basic services.
bartending and waiting tables is a little different. in most cases they get paid less wages due to the expectation they get tips. not sure where it lies now but up until recently most establisments in GA pay their servers and bartenders something like 2 dollars and change an hour.
@camjohn5153 Hello and sorry for bothering you. I have heard that in some cases there aren't any "decline tip" options available!
@@Nate-zm6bd oh so we all have to go to a course to study which professions get paid less and be experts in that knowledge now, just to buy things? Awesome. Keep defending bartenders...great job and way to encourage tipping culture.
@@gamingbtc wow. if you have to take a course to figure out service industry makes less due to it being a traditionally tipped service. pay based upon the quality of service rendered. you got alot of courses to take. not sure but seems like you intended your comment to be insulting. but really says a whole lot more about you. and your intelligence. or lack there of. Heres my last lesson young padawan. tip the pizza delivery guy. But you have every right to be upset about them pressuring you to tip at a drivethru......
@@gamingbtc Tipping bartenders has existed well before this insane tipping culture stuff.
Glad there is awareness on this. Getting ridiculous. “Guilted” into tipping is absolutely correct. A tablet asking for tip on a take out. Asking you what you’d like to tip with 5 customers behind me. I thought I was the only one feeling weird.
Just got a take-out from Olive Garden that was ~$25 and they brought out the food and the receipt and they it was asking for a tip! Like am I tipping on you bringing my food to my car and not dropping it? 😂I'll gladly walk the 25 steps to the restaurant and back if this becomes a thing
@@Hunters_Mechanics Employers don't really like to pay livable wages. That's why tips are a thing in the first place boomer. Don't get mad at the employee.
@@Hunters_Mechanics Packaging the food and bringing it to your cat takes more time than running the food to your table. If you cant afford to eat at a restaurant, cook.
@@cheezedoodlenygguh6229 Lmfao I cant believe y'all think the simple run to the car deserves a tip and saying so makes me a boomer when I'm 23 😂 I'm already paying the bill for the takeout, no need for a tip when I'm already paying for the service, which is to make my food 🤷♂️
@@user-rx162r I much prefer to get food and take it to my house to enjoy rather than waiting ages for the waiter to come around, listening to a bitchy table next to me, and pay for insanely over priced drinks when I have plenty of options at home lol they offer take-out, I'm going to use it, don't have to sit in to enjoy a restaurants food 🤷♂️
As an Australian, being on the outside of this, and just looking in …. I think this is ridiculous, it’s not the customers responsibility to subsidize the wages of the employee. It’s up to the business to pay a fair wage, if they unable or unwilling to do that, maybe they shouldn’t be in business in the first place.
Thank you for making this video.
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As someone that just came back from a vacation in Australia (where there is zero tipping culture), it was so refreshing to just pay and leave and not feel any burden of guilt or responsibility to pay more. Tap and go and I truly wish that we were like this too.
Same in italy, its an insult to tip there when you tip it’s basically saying “ your broke let me help you out”
@@crunchwrapsupreme8812 American living in for 7 years. They love tips!!!
You know the tips on the tablet go directly to the employer, at least the last few places I worked. It's why they got rid of the tipping jars in which the employees kept the money
Wife is from Sweden so we go there alot and it's a good feeling. Over here I don't tip much anyways; only at restaurants but at bare minimum. Never understood why I should tip a person...that's their job.
I'm a homeless Uber driver with a tip jar for passengers because I'm drowning in problems and barely surviving. Honestly the tips aren't even enough. I'm still struggling and need more.
I started to catch myself feeling kind of guilty for not tipping for everything everywhere but decided to ignore that guilt. I stick to tipping at restaurants & occasionally at the subway I frequent for the teenagers & of course any deliveries I might get but that’s enough, I’m not getting paid enough to cover other peoples salaries in this economy, we’re all just trying to make it out here.
Tipping only for delivery and dine in service is a good approach!
This is my approach, if I tipped for the service 5 years ago, I still tip. But I can’t believe how many places are asking for tips now, like Crumbl Cookies. This is a bakery and you put 4 cookies that were already made in a box for me, I shouldn’t be asked to provide wages.
@@dakotasmith8925 Right! Especially for those of us who deliver😁
you're tipping way more than needed. teenagers that are living with their parents don't need a tip...
💯its time for us to grow a pair and stop people pleasing
Since a 20% tip is almost a standard, why don't employers include it in the food price and pay it to the employees? Like the case in France where the service is already included in the bill.
Exactly
I've always chosen not to tip unless I'm served directly (eg. Barber, server, etc). That means I don't tip someone behind the counter. I also decided on a new rule after watching the video: I won't tip prior to receiving service.
Tipping for barbers is excessive even. It should be in the price of the service you’re receiving just as the rest of the overhead
@Karl with a K there are countless of things more disrespectful and dehumanising than tipping a person. You do realise that you lost your credibility by this sentence?
I do exactly the same
@Karl with a K What a load of nonsense. Tipping a person is a way of saying "thanks for doing a great job and serving me;" it's a courtesy, not some subconscious commentary on the status of the person being tipped. It's people like you who read too much into everything and get offended all the time for absolutely no reason
Not to mention that people don't always do the job they most want to do. Do you think most waiters really love the job with their whole heart?
@Karl with a K all I have to do is find one thing more disrespectful and dehumanising than tipping a person.... And you're proven wrong.
I think it's so easy even you could do it :D
I'll never forget when I went to a craft fair and purchased a pair of locally made earrings from a vendor. She swiped my credit card and turned the screen for me to sign. Right on the screen was a suggested tip amount. I was so blindsided. This is a craft fair. She made the earrings. If she wanted to get paid more for the earrings, then charge more! There was no service involved. That was the moment I realized tipping has truly gotten out of control, when even non-service industries are asking for tips!
Idk, I understand some DoorDash drivers are greedy but you gotta keep in mind people that tip 1$ or even 0$ makes people less than $5 an hour not including the cost of gas/ repairs, tips are how drivers get paid and without it lots of people can’t work. I only do it on the side but some people do it full time and depend on tips
Point of Sale systems for credit cards take a fee from every transaction, also the prompt for a tip is built in to go off automatically…
I feel the same about independent stylists who rent a chair.
They charge $40 and keep the entire $40. Then I tip $10 because it’s customary….why not just charge $50 and not expect a tip if that’s what your service is worth?
DoorDash should pay the drivers more
@@nobleone89 do you really believe that independent stylists are keeping 100% of what they charge you???? no. over 50% goes towards rent/utilities, product costs, taxes, insurance, etc. tips are not required but a way to say "i appreciate and value you as a service provider"
I went out drinking recently, and the bartender flat out told me a $5 tip was expected on each $15 drink, and that “everyone else tips that here”
I left the bar.
Amen, Noone is gonna dictate what I tip and if it's an issue, I'm walking out as well.
Strip clubs are the worse the old hag that’s pimping them demands a tip for their service
Well done.
Let me guess, The bar is somewhere in the US.
@Yogesh Good for you. I would have left the bar too.
I have no problem choosing “no tip”.
I always tip 20% or more at restaurants. Stopped by a bubble tea shop in queens and ordered tea to go, tea was about $8, kiosks asked 15%, 18%, 20%, or 22% … I pressed no tip and I can see right away the cashier and the staff were not happy. no one wanted to make my tea until I asked where my tea was. It should no longer called tip, it’s a bribe.
I put my hamster in a sock and slammed it against the furniture
slash blackmail
@@TippyHippy
LOL
@@uap24 i laughed without laughing. It still makes the body hold the breathe back (LOL)....who knew 😂
$8 for a drink???!!! Very easy and cheap to make bubble tea at home.
This is so ridiculous! In Europe (most countries), where I live, tipping is not expected at all. I find it so annoying that you feel obliged to leave a tip in the US, which should be completely optional.
It IS optional.
@@iluvutube4886but is it really? I think by "completely" optional, they mean you feel zero guilt not to. In the US you often feel peer pressured to leave a tip, because if you don't, you're looked down on.
When we were last in the US we had pretty bad service at a particular restaurant and didn't tip. The staff made it quite clear to us that we were not welcome and not to return, that's how hurried to get rid of us (and generally impolite) they became
@@Hirotoro4692 Unless your service was astonishingly terrible and the waiter was extremely rude, you should always tip at a sit down restaurant because waiters only make about $2.50 per hour. This is WAY below minimum wage required at any other job, they literally rely on tips to live. If the food takes awhile it's the cooks fault, not the waiter's. Yes it's a messed up way of paying employees but you cant change it. You explain your problem to a manager and they will likely take money off your bill, or give you the whole meal for free. But you have to tip a waiter. If you let their boss know thats how to deal with it. Anyway everywhere else tipping is not required, it's optional. Just dine in restaurants. It's ok to not understand a different culture. I just thought I'd explain and help
@@user-wr9ej6xe4jin a lot of states (especially where tourist are) the waiters make a lot more than 2,50$. That’s a thing of the Past. Minimum Wage for tipped Jobs for example in California 16$, Florida 9$, New York 10-15$.
In the states, for people to be nice to you, you have to pay them for it XD
Worked in Japan for a year. My hourly rate was 15.00 and tipping is considered rude. Both restaurants I worked at was no tip. Truly mind blowing about American culture
A waiter in usa make $25 per hour on average!
@@elionmatoshi2978 but no tipping :) so customers don’t have to worry about waiters bothering them 😂😂
@@ilyooo it’s balanced trust me! Bc if the restaurant has to pay waiter like $25 an hour they have to rise the food price!
@@elionmatoshi2978 So what? The overall cost to the customer would the same, but clear upfront. I'd much rather pay $20 for a meal than $13 meal + $3 tax + $4 tip. Japanese restaurants are nerve balm for me, US tipping is cancer.
No wonder why all Uber driver complaining about Asians people being cheap. They never tip, never.
I worked at an airport. I got paid garbage as a wheelchair pusher. When I got tipped regularly, I managed to barely make any money to pay bills. Mind you even the airport stores don't expect tips. Why am I not getting help pushing someone who's 300 lbs? Especially when they ask me to take them to the bathroom, go smoke, and the bar all before I take them to the gate?
I don’t tip at drive thru windows, and I was shocked when Starbucks employees just started blatantly asking for tips on a pad. It feels like guilt-extortion
I think that's fair.
It IS emotional blackmail
@@georgenaidoo9553
i think those dead-end-job 34-year-olds should have been a little smarter when they were young and had gotten a skill when they had the chance. unfortunately, even though they have a far more sizable chance to pick up a skill *right now,* they only use tiktok to melt their brains when they're off work. sucks to be them, yay for darwinism, nay for them.
Don't cave. It's laughable
Wait, STARBUCKS? Since when do they need tips they are paid well.
Yes! I'm tired of seeing that tipping screen when I pay for food. Also, I'm tired of the donations being asked from billion-dollar franchises. I don't mind tipping for excellent service when I DINE IN, but not when I'm there for takeout.
Yeah, they ask donations for starving children and hospitals everywhere. Multimillion dollars business want us to make charitable contributions in their name.
Yes never donate through a billion dollar franchise. They use the amounts donated by consumers as a tax write off. Just donate directly to a charity instead. We cannot keep enabling these billion dollar company CEO’s to keep skirting tax obligations.
Exactly. They put pressure and pressure for us to tip. It s out control. I enjoy so much eating out but tips now days are 17%, 22%, 25%, in some places in Orlando.
JUST NEVER TIP
@@celenachandler bingo!!! The donations make them more money
Thank you for making this video. The tipping culture here is getting out of control, and it's just a reason for employers to not pay their employees
SO what would be the fair wage, I live in CA where people at KFC are getting paid $17.50 to work the drive through… SO should it be 27.50? Who decides what is too much and / or too little.
@@MH_6160 The employers and the market decide, just like in every other part of the world. How do you think the other 7.8 billion people in the world who are not American are getting paid?
@@MH_6160 The company or owner, they look at the location, they look at other similar job places see how much they pay their employees with in that location and your skills if you can do x,y and z. Determines your pay.
Tran Le either we go with tipping or they will increase prices. Is not that they don't want to. Is that they can't or they will be forced to increase price which could cause them to loose customers and loose to their compition (Other companies). There is a lot of economics that go into it.
All employers i the United States are required to pay their employees at least $7.25/hour no matter what. Yes, their is a clause that tipped restaurant employees have a minimum wage of $2.13. HOWEVER, if the employees receive less than $5.12/hour on average in tips, then their employer must must pay the remaining depict to get them up to $7.25/hour.
I'm living in Berlin, and this ugly tipping culture is starting to invade some spots of the city, increasing. While many shops and restaurants only accept cash, is still not that implemented. But I have started opting out tip from places that are cashless, in which I don't receive a dine-in waiter service (take aways, coffee shops, ice cream shops...), and I immediately decline tipping and they've lost a future client for life. It is the biggest consumer rip-off of this century and I won't be contributing to it, Specially not in Germany with its workers rights.
Yes, I noticed it seems to be spreading in Europe very fast. Especially heavy tourist spots. One of the reasons, Americans pay a tip of their standard back home. It's not only in Europe, they are spreading this to non tipping countries. I wish they would study the basics of the country before they visit.
You missed the most important part of this. As tipping on counter-service becomes normalized more and more employees are being reclassified as tipped employees allowing the employer to lower their hourly wage by the amount that they get tipped each day. You're effectively just tipping the business owner with extra steps.
Thats why cash directly to the guy is better than using my card.
@@cheezeball6109 Great idea. Of course, they are required to report those tips to their employer, and can get fired if they fail to do so, so that's a risk to.
@@alansach8437 There are easy ways around that. If the tip is on a card it is fully taxed. In cash, the server just comes up with a reasonable amount over the legal limit (9%) for the paperwork. Unless the owner is stealing employee tips, they don't care. Just make it look believable. It was the OWNER of a place I worked that TAUGHT his employees to do that! Even doing that, our paychecks after taxes were ALWAYS $0.00! That's what happens at $2.13 PH pay!
When the customer has to pay the waiter that’s kind of messed up. I come to the restaurant for a night out and to pay for my food I don’t go there to get a tablet pushed in my face asking 10% 15%. 20% in tip you have to be joking there should be a law that tips should be banned. The business owner needs to pay there employees better .
@@alansach8437 risk too
You're right, the tablets are so annoying. This entire thing has gotten so out of hand. Tips are supposed to be for good service, to reward someone for doing well. It shouldn't be an excuse to pay people less and force customers to compensate. The solution is to start ignoring peer pressure and people's fake moral demands.
If I’m at home or sitting down and someone is bringing me my food, then they get a tip. If I’m standing in line and the server is just ringing me up, that’s not a tip situation!
Good service lol that's called doing your job.
I will hit no tip, flip it over and let the worker see, if I feel like they're being pushy for a tip
In many cases, they aren't being paid less, and the "tip requests" are happening in places tipping was not the norm.
Right, much of the tips being given are from getting shamed into giving more.
As a non-American observer, I find the tipping culture in America quite perplexing. Tipping should be a gesture of gratitude for exceptional service, not an obligation for performing one's job.
I am so resentful at this point that i seek out the no tip button when i do carryout. Prices are up, things are harder than at any time during my life. Then they try to guilt you into paying what you don’t owe. And ultimately that is what it is. You paying for something that you don’t owe anything for.
Pretty soon that No Tip button will be one pixel in size.
I’ve always tipped n to go food, for decades. They have to get my order right over the phone, pack up the food correctly, and customers in the store have to wait - all of which makes their service more difficult.
@@hopegold883 a lot of “to go” orders now incorporate a service fee into the bill… I don’t think I should be adding a tip on top of all that.
@@hopegold883all of these are included in the price you pay.
I went into crumbl once. The young lady behind the counter told me I had to place my order on the kiosk and pay there. Went over to it and started the order, all I wanted was one cookie for four dollars. On the payment screen, it gave me options to tip three dollars, four dollars, or five dollars (on my four dollar cookie) I canceled the order thanked the lady behind the counter, said I changed my mind and left the store.
Help me to understand why staff feel they are entitled to a 50%, 75%, or 100% tip? They put a tray of premade dough in an oven, then took it out, and put a cookie in a bag. A waiter in a restaurant takes my order, relays it to the kitchen, carries the heavy tray of food out and serves it, gets my drink from the bar, then repeats the process for coffee and desert, before finally clearing and setting the table. He gets 20 to 30% (depending on service,) but this kid in the cookie store who does little actual work is worth 50 to 100%? That’s insanity! Crumbl lost my business because of their tip policy.
Total madness.
I got asked to tip at a drive through car wash 😂
Rightfully so, I’d say. Minimum 30%
Wow cheap ass, REEEEAAAALY???
@@Wow_wow1 I would tip 0%
That's been going on in my area for at least 30 years. There is always a tip bucket at the end.
Same, I pressed 0% looking at the worker straight to the eye
During my traveling through the US, the thing I disliked the most was tipping. After weeks I got the feeling that people are only polite or helpful because they might get a tip. Why not pay people a normal salary and trust your employees to do a good job? The whole “money talks” and “you are what you own” mentality is the root of the many problems the US society is facing.
Because it's more lucrative for the employers to underpay their employees and they got away with it because the wrong people have political power.
Respectfully, I’ll take the feigned politeness from service employees in this US over the lack of politeness from service employees in Europe
The "low pay" is a myth. Restaurants are required to ensure minimum wage. Many states also have ruled rules to require minimum wage regardless of tip. The median pay is like $45k before tips. Official data are probably also underreported as restaurant workers here are notorious for receiving under the table pay and not reporting their income. If you just quickly browse social media, you'll find many claiming to take home 100k+ in total pay per year.
People are complaining that restaurant workers are paid less than college graduates on the premise that "everyone deserves a livable wage". Btw, livable wage to Americans = being able to save and buy a house, go on international vacations every year, while being able to feed a family of 5, and buy them brand name gifts for Xmas every year.
We dont have a low pay issue; we have an entitlement issue. So go head and tip them half without feeling bad. Or none if they treat you like just a job. There's no reason why a waitress should ever be able to not want to get a college education and find more valuable work because, and I quote, "they'd be taking a pay cut".
@@moviemonster2083obviously
@@JoseGomez-rc5wvrespectfully Europeans are very kind and better at service with or without tips ❤ur comment shows u never have been here. Kindness and chivalry in the service sector should be naturally a rule without tips being a topic
This is interesting to talk about. I visited a coffee shop and just ordered a coffee to go. When I used my card to pay, an option to leave a tip popped up. I said no to the tip because in my opinion, a tip was not earned by just ringing up my coffee and taking my money.
As it should be.
This is why i don"t go to starbucks no more.
I always press no tip at coffee shops, they make at least minimum wage anyway.
I at least understand more when it’s places only making 2,3 a hour.
@@malayaanderson8222 this was initially the intent for tipping. Those servers who made less than minimum wage, generally about $2 an hour was to be tipped. I have no qualms about tipping them but everyone else is over the top. They talk about "the service" industry, but every job "serves" someone. This will show how old I am but when I was a teen, $1.60 was minimum wage. There was one restaurant in our area who paid minimum wage. This company did not allow tipping. Where I worked, I was working for $1.15 and was tipped. I think employers are the issue now. They are allowing tips for people making at least minimum wage (which some places is $15 an hour now), so they don't have to give raises.
That is so wild tbh. I live in Mexico and I've never been asked to tip at any of the places most people complain about tipping (starbucks, mcdonalds drivethrough, mcdonalds counter etc) and it is weird since I'm pretty certain that these people earn less than say a starbucks worker in the US (cuz of dollars vs pesos). Like only places I'm expected to tip are restaurants, bars, the valet parking, the person that helps you carry/load the groceries at the supermarket, etc. Some of those (namely the valet and others like that) it's not even a percentage, most if not all people just give them like $20 (which is like 1 dollar).
My rule is I only tip if it’s deserved I don’t tip when picking up my own stuff, only restaurants that I sit down at and delivery drivers if I’m ordering takeout I’m there I’m picking it up
Completely agree. Tipping should be a personal choice, not an obligation or being pressured to tip.
It is optional, they'll just remember the faces of those who don't tip and spit in your food
@@matthewdanko4064 lmao
It has gone to the legal extortion level now in USA by the wokes and libs.
You're right that tipping should be a personal choice and the amount you tip should be relative to your own budget. The problem is that these people aren't paid enough so they rely on tipping to get the paycheck. So the employer is basically making YOU the customer pay their employees on top of whatever products you get from them.
@@Dan-di9jd yeah which shouldnt be our problem, if they really dont get paid enough (which they probably do because of minimum wage) the employers should pay them more
Not just tipping, now I can’t go shopping without being asked to make donations to charities while paying. Now I have to actively decline or peer pressured into tipping more than I want and donating my money. It’s ridiculous.
Not the multi trillion dollar Wal-Mart asking us if we want to donate to a hospital when it's a bunch of minimum wage people in there just buying food to eat with their rent money
And they just do that so they can write off huge amounts in taxes because they 'donated to charity' (through you)
It reminds me of the South Park episode where Randy goes to sprouts😂 in order to decline donating at the end of his grocery bill you need to pull a sandwich out of a starving girls mouth to confirm. So funny
@@wge621 they even donate all the money.
And remember that the company asking for the donation then turns around and uses that amount as a tax deduction. Just make donations in your own name so you can claim it on your taxes…
I used to tip consistently and was extremely generous during the pandemic, but now, I'm avoiding places that always ask for a tip. I recently visited a Starbucks and bought a brownie, not heated. I did not leave a tip and was the only customer in the store. There was a group of three ladies who came in behind me.They all ordered food and drinks. They were all served their food which was heated and prepared, before I received my brownie. Coincidence? I live in California where minimum wage is at least $16.00 an hour, more in some cities. For me, it ruins the experience and just pushes me away from visiting food establishments. It's a treat when I buy a snack and being asked to leave a $1.00 or more tip for a $3.50 brownie seems excessive.
This is where the employee is held accountable for the quality of the service and paid well to complete the task
Auntie Anne’s pretzels asks for a tip now too. I declined and they didn’t give me part of my order. The line was so long I didn’t bother going back to complain. So I guess they got their tip after all.
@@briarrose29 I guess they lost a customer lol
As someone in the service industry, I absolutely agree that tips are optional and I personally look away when the tip screen comes up so as to not add additional pressure on people.
@@nhibbs3 your making ppl homeless because you want to prove a point to a giant corporation who doesn’t care about any of us. Nice morals jerk
As a consumer one is in a moral dilemma: If you don‘t tip, the employee doesn‘t make enough. If you tip, you support the tipping culture.
Imagine a world in which companies simply paid their workers.
You don't need to imagine it. In the rest of the rich world, that's how it's done, and there is little or no tipping.
That's already happening, it's a USA thing.
Like France?
It's called Australia and the rest of the world too
China
It's a way for employers to get out of paying their employees a fair wage. Simple
Exactly. That's why I'm against ripping. Consumer is paying double
No. It's not simple.
Bs
I remember when I worked for Domino's when they first started charging for delivery and didn't give us any of the delivery charge and our tips dropped to the bottom of the Mariana trench. It was absolutely theft of driver's tips. Recently there was a big deal over Landry's taking tips from tipped employees and giving them to non-tip employees so they didn't have to pay non-tipped employees. The move from cash to credit cards has allowed these employers to do all this.
And we all know it.
Anyone not living in the US sees how absurd this really is. The employers shrug off the burden of having to pay a respectable wage while they profit off cheap labour.
It's worse than that actually, they get some of the tips too in some cases
It's even worse than that. Giant corporations like Walmart pay their employees so little many of them qualify for public assistance so we all have to reach in our pockets to pay for some of their housing, heating, food, etc. Walmart gets to keep all the profits and they socialize their labor costs onto everyone else. It's the ultimate form of forced tipping...
i find it worse in canada, they get paid minimum wage or more, yet the default tipping on machine starts at 18% if not 20%, i just never go out or get food anymore. the prices are so expensive
Servers would hate that lol. They make more than the head chef with their tips
I don't get how it became like this. I mean, at some point in us labor History, people start to accept to work for tips. Why? It is a real mystery for me, why would anyone would accept this?
Employers need to pay their workers a livable wage.
Employees need to stop working for those employers. I tell people all the time don’t get a job that counts on tips.
@@CHRIS3PHX Excuse me? Easier said than done. You act like there are endless wonderful jobs out there for people with benefits, great pay, good hours, etc. Stop living in a fantasy world.
they cant. Certian companys own most jobs. Infact if you quit and try to work another job. Theres a chance that company might be owned by the othe rone. And your sent exactly to where you started
No such thing as a livable wage. This line is echoed so many times and it makes no sense. It's not an easy fix. Some restaurants are making just enough to keep a roof over their head but if they are forced to pay increases wages that does not equal more customers walking in the door. And if the prices goes up, customers that have been coming will leave. Again, no such thing as a livable wage when everyones living conditions are different. If one employee has a studio and the other has 4 kids, what is a livable wage?
Firstly, what does "livable wage" even mean? Even without considering sometimes extreme differences between local costs of living, what one person can live without, or wouldn't even think to or want to buy, is another person's necessity. Absolute nonsense catch-phrase that has no commerce with the reality of the tradeoffs that we all make in accordance with what we value as individuals, or the financial or opportunity-cost consequences of our actions taken in accordance with those values. People have a tendency of not boiling down to a common denominator.
In the USA, for jobs that pay the employee the minimum tipped wage (some variability by precise locality) of $2.13 per hour, the employer can pay that wage AS LONG AS the employee's wages plus tips for the pay period equals or is greater than the amount that they would have made at the regular non-tipped minimum wage of $7.25 per hour (again, some variability in minimum non-tipped wage by precise locality). If your employer pays you at the federal tipped-wage, say, as a waitress, and you clock 40 hours over a 1-week pay period, for example, and your gross pay is not at least $290.00 in combined wages and tips (specific numbers for this particular example only, obviously), your employer is legally obligated to get you there, to make up the difference between that and $85.20 plus tips (in this 40 hour example). If that isn't happening, go to the local DOL and file a complaint - you likely have a case. I'm not saying that the federal minimum of $7.25/hour is "making it rain," as the saying goes, or that a low-skilled job at any wage rate is going to be a middle-class family keeping up with the Joneses supporting career, but don't mistake the situation as people living on $2.13/hour alone.
From personal experience and observation, it isn't at all that uncommon for a good waitress, to keep the example going, to come home with ~$300 in tips from one shift if it's a busy one. I don't make that kind of money for one day's work and I'm salaried at an offhand equivalent of $25/hour. I've toyed in the past with taking a waitressing or bartending gig a couple of nights a week around my day job for a change of pace and to make a little mad money. I personally would avoid a tipped job that forces pooling tips for end-of-shift distribution, though.
It’s truly outrageous, it’s everywhere and the 10% and 15% are rare to see as options on the iPads. I see from 18% to 20% to 25% in places that should not require any tip. When hanging with family or friends from abroad is when the realization of how slowly this has been feed to us becomes clear. It’s not normal to pay an extra 20% for someone putting together a cup of already overpriced coffee.
All 3 of the streamlined POS apps have a custom tip amount so idk what you're smoking
Why so butthurt?
I stopped going to full service resturants, mostly because of tipping. People become very rude if you tip less than 15% and argue that "that's the way it is, you are breaking the rules", when, the industry just change their rules over time. If that's really the rule, I'll wait for that birthday free meal coupon and eat there paying zero tips, because 20% of $0 is still $0... I wouldn't do that in the past, nowadays I feel justified.
I never feel bad about not tipping at coffee shops.
@@1plaintext you did the right thing and stopped going to restaurants and wasting servers time. People who go out and want to be served tip accordingly and knowing you're not one of them is half the issue.
I first noticed this was getting out of hand when I went to Cold Stone. I literally walked to their already made cupcakes, grabbed them out of the freezer, and then went to pay. The person asked if I wanted to tip. I was like, for what!? I got the item myself! Between the prices of fast food going up and expecting tips for every little thing, it's out of control. If you're charging more, then pay your people more! I know things cost more, but people aren't getting that increase. It goes to the corporate and higher ups. I don't tip at counters. That should be for full service sit downs. Even then, they should pay their employees more.
I tipped at Cold Stone few weeks ago. The lady made 3 ice creams though. I don't think you should tip on the cupcakes because they didn't make them. The cupcakes are actually brought in from another place. Basically they from a distribution center. At least that is what I remember reading on the package. I always tip when I am sitting down at a restaurant. Sometimes I will tip when doing take out from restaurant. If I am getting food from a vendor like the farmers market I will tip if I really like the food. I always tip at cookie crumbl too
I worked at a quick service restaurant and ay time the prices went up the managers, who do nothing if they can, get raises but not the employees busting their asses and they wonder why everyone wants to quit
if i'm going to tip i give the money to the person i want to tip. But are so many companies with strict rules for tipping where your money from tips is not really going to the ones you tipped. The companies actually use your tip money as their own income. Non taxable one that is... You should only pay the price if you agree with it and they should pay a proper wage to their employees.
@@somnorila9913 It's even worse when you actually read how the tipped minimum wage works legally. Tipped workers legally have the same minimum wage as everyone else, but tips are applied as a credit against the worker's wage until it hits the tipped minimum, so even if the person you tip keeps all their tips, the first several dollars each hour indirectly goes to the business itself as a wage credit. Then customers get blamed when the worker's don't get tips, when legally the business is supposed to pay them the full normal minimum wage if they don't get tips. Wage theft is worse than all other forms of theft combined and our society ignores it...
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Currently in Japan, where you literally can't even tip. If you try to tip, they'll chase after you with the change! 😂😂
Korea too, most places.
Same thing here in China, sometimes I want to show my gratitude to someone who really did a good job, but giving them extra money almost seems like an insult to him/her.
Same as most civilised countries of the world
Funny thing is, the services are way better in Korea/Japan than in the States. Then what's the point of tipping?🤑🤑
Hah yeah they would refuse in many ways they could think of I think it applies to most Asian countries 🤔
People say we should tip them because they aren’t paid enough by their employers. Then, how come we don’t tip teachers, cashiers, front desk employees and others, who don’t get paid enough? Tipping should be an expression of gratitude for an exceptional beyond and above service and absolutely voluntary and never obligatory.
This Tipping and asking to add a donation at the POS terminal has annoyed me for years. I was unaware that Washington State required all employees to be paid the State Minimum Wage now which is $20 in the Seattle area. So now that I have learned this, I will not be tipping. If I want pizza or takeout I will go pick it up and pay with cash, so my purchase is not tracked and a customer profile is not so easily built. I encourage others to do this too as this culture has gotten out of hand. If you want to make the money of a highly skilled or professional person, then take the time to get that degree or professional accreditation. I am not required to subsidize your income because you chose a less skilled job. I am all about fairness of opportunity, not fairness of financial outcome. I do not get tipped for being an engineer, I get to keep my job, and I earn the respect of my colleagues and employer. Enough is Enough!
This. And not gonna lie, if tipping won't incentivize the management to take more advantage of these people, I would totally prefer to tip teachers and nurses than the cashier that rang up my take out dinner.....
People that use their own cars are like subcontractors... The driver apps do not pay hourly. Just the least they can get away with legally. The restaurant drivers like pizza hut and dominos make hourly.
I got literally no problem not tipping in some situations. Employers not paying a livable wage is not my problem. It sucks, but I’m not paying the gap. Like some fast food restaurants ask for a tip, it’s a big NO.
Generally speaking, the employees who are asking for a tip aren't paid even near what a teacher is. And that's saying something, because boy oh boy, teachers do not make enough! I work at a Sonic (fast food resteraunt) and our carhops (those who ring up and take out orders) are paid $4/h. That means they're only making $32 (excluding taxes) for a full 8 hour shift, or $160 for a full 40-hour week. They rely on tips just to eat.
Which, of course, isn't the fault of the consumer- it's the fault of the company. I think it's crazy they're allowed to pay that little- especially since these are fast food servers, NOT true waiters/waitresses. Especially since they also have to do in-store tasks like cleaning, and making drink/ice-cream items- even helping out in the kitchen sometimes.
I went to a restaurant the other day, paid with the tablet and included a 15% tip. The cashier then printed the receipt and asked me to sign. Sure enough there was another line below that said "additional tip" after I had already tipped. I'm at the point where I don't care what people think. I'm no longer tipping if all they are doing is their job.
@Karl with a K are you serious??? it's irony i hope.
I think the problem isn’t with tipping for goods and services, it’s assuming that you will tip the employees like they are entitled to more of your money automatically. They took your option away from you without hesitation nor consideration for how you actually felt about your meal and service from the employees. You are well within your rights to stop tipping altogether
@Karl with a K that person works hard expecting ur tip. If u never tip servers and bartenders, you're a piece of garbage
@Karl with a K waiters don't wish to wait on ppl with their heart and soul. U think a waiter is literally being someone's servant, bringing them food and drinks, cus it brings them fulfillment and enjoyment? They're doing it for the tips, it's their livelihood
This is the exact reason why I don't go back to the places that ask me to tip every time. These restaurants don't even realize this is actually scaring business away. I would be way more likely to go to these places if I was expected to carry extra money for tipping.
It is unfair to expect patrons to subside workers wages - through tipping. Customers are paying enough already.
Employers should pay decent hourly rate. It is not for me to pick up the difference.
I no longer eat out.
The amount you tip used to be based on the level of service that is provided. People who went out of their way to provide excellent services were tipped more (not always because of cheap people, but that is how it worked). For some reason tipping has become an extra added tax rather than a reward for providing good service.
Tips are now expected for services where there is absolutely no extra effort put into the service.
The idea to give tip to someone for providing a good service is just wrong. It feels like disrespecting the person being tipped as if here's 3 dollars you poor servant, go buy an ice cream or something lol. And its stressful for the customers being forced to tip and not knowing the correct amount. Tipped staff exempt from minimum wage, what a horrible and disgusting idea.
@@georgechristou7982 I do not know who is deciding servers should only receive minimum wage if they obtain tips, this is wrong.
Perhaps before accepting employment from those businesses, the applicant should ask that question.
Personally, I think tipping should not be expected. But here in the United States it is an accepted practice.
Customers are not forced to provide a tip, just expect that if you return or use that service again you will not receive excellent service, and perhaps if you have the same person, poor service or refusal of service. There is a base tip percent for those who do their job, then if you feel that the person did extra work you add to that.
This is how incentives work, if you are tipped the same no matter how little you perform your task or how hard you do it, why would anyone work harder than the next person.
@@captglenn100 there should be a standard of performance below of which they get fired. It should be that either the service is good enough or not. There is no reason for "excellent" service. Either good service and continue working, or bad service and get fired.
@@georgechristou7982 Perhaps, but this is how capitalism works, you put in the extra work and you are rewarded. I am sure it has been tried here.
@@captglenn100 that works for different companies though, not for different staff working in the same company. Capitalism is about rewarding the company that produces your selected goods. But tipping, is about optional reward to an individual for going "over and above" of what they have to do. So ,no I don't see any similarities between capitalism and tipping.
As a teacher, I'm still waiting for the ability to be tipped to open and close doors at pickup and drop off, grade, and respond to emails. Those take more additional work than most people tip for these days.
Imagine if I gave worse service for not receiving a tip for those. That's exactly how ridiculous all tipping sounds to me.
Teachers are like the dishwashers in the back and expected to get all the dirty work done behind the scenes without a thank you.
Give me a break, if you don’t want to be a teacher just quit all y’all do is complain about a job you chose
@@jasonsandler6951 This comment has the same energy level as "Why are they homeless, just buy a home".
Oh wow, you have to open the doors? And respond to emails?? AND hold tests up to an answer key!? And you only get 180 days off a year?!
Daniel, I run a non-profit center for people suffering work induced PTSD. I had to pull a few strings and bump two combat veterans and a cop who walks with a cane after getting shot chasing a mugger, but I’ve cleared our entire schedule next week for you to get the help you deserve. Now your case is particularly severe, so we’ve flown in a therapist from Vienna who specializes in door opening induced trauma. Our whole team is looking forward to meeting you.
@@alcazar123456 When someone doesn't get the point.
My major gripe with tipping in the US, tipping used to be a gratuity for great service. It has become a mandated charge regardless of how good or bad the service was. It annoys me that you are subjected to a guilt trip to subsidize an employees wages because the employer is too tight fisted to pay fair wages. I have heard the argument that tipping helps keep prices down. Frankly, that’s crap. Prices in restaurants, hotels cabs etc are on par with any other western country. In recent years, I have started standing my ground. I will only tip for good service. I will not reward someone who treats me with indifference, is patronizing or just plain rude.
OK, Karen.
Agreed!!!? I'm doing the same.
Was 100% with you until the "standing my ground" part. The low-paid employee is the one suffering in your stand off. Seems a bit unfair - but maybe I misunderstood. Do you directly interact with the employers to let them know they shouldn't force us to subsidize the wage? If not, then I think maybe just avoiding service industry businesses would be the best way to stand your ground...
@@ericnelson9100What was that all about?
@Eric Nelson Karen's right about this one though. Why the hell should I tip every person I come accross?
Couldn’t agree more. They have tip jars on the counter if someone hands a roll.
You don’t get tipped for doing your job. You get tipped when you go over and above and do more than your job. Thats the only way you’ll see a tip from me
"You're being guilted into tipping on something that is not technically a service, someone simply doing their job."
It's ALWAYS been someone "simply doing their job", that's the point. We've gone from rewarding people for going above and beyond to rewarding people for doing the bare minimum (i.e. THEIR JOB).
Oh baby, I got thick skin and ya better believe they carry that guilty bit with me I'll turn it around on them bc you're right, it's their J.O.B!
Exactly ...the entitlement is disgusting especially with this generation
At a restaurant where someone is serving you, then tips make sense. They get like $4.00 an hour depending on your state. That's not worth excellent service. But I agree tipping at a coffee shop is sometimes a bit overboard considering they are just doing what they are supposed to be doing.
your comment is correct if your idea of a reward is getting paid decently for working in the first place. tips are bs, they force the customers to pay the workers wage.
@@acknowledgedofalltheconseq366 t.y.
I moved to the US from Australia for work and it has annoyed me no end how pervasive the demand for tips are here. You are effectively demanded to pay it, and usually BEFORE you get the service and yet the service is worse and slower than in Australia or other countries I’ve lived in where tipping isn’t expected.
The minimum wage for employees who receive tips is $2.13 per hour.
@@KarmicSalt Bigger fools they for working for almost nothing.
Demand higher wages! Not only the service worker should go on strike, customers should join them as well. I cannot stress it enough how much bloodshed it would be in my country if this was allowed. Do americans ever protest for anything and get it changed? Because that is exactly why you have your freedom for.
@@KarmicSalt What is the minimum wage for employees who don't receive tips?
@@KarmicSalt There’s an obvious solution there - change the legislation so that tipped employees have the same minimum wage as non tipped employees
Just got back from Europe last month and my mind was blown when I found out tipping wasn’t required or even an option!! It created a more straightforward dining experience, where the prices on the menu reflected the true cost of the meal. Unlike the US, it seems they have fair wages for service staff, reducing the reliance on tips to make ends meet.
Unless it’s a large group, then it’s automatically added, as it should be. At least in Italy it’s this way
@@seitanbeatsyourmeat666 tipping should NEVER be added forcefuly, the whole concept of a tip is that it's voluntary
@Blehstor if we paid livable wages that would be the route to go. So that's the problem we need to solve
It's not just UK but the rest of the world man 😂 USA is crazy, especially with not using the metric system too 😅
@@carlgharis7948 the problem is very easy to solve.. forbid on a national level tips to be part of the wage. problem solved
It's time to properly pay employees, and to ban tips by law.
I'm from Ireland and been living in the US for 7 years now and cannot get over the tipping thing here. I worked in hospitality for years in ireland and if I was ever left a tip from a customer I would be over the moon and happy but certainly not expected I made a decent wage to live. A woman gave me a cup to pour my own coffee in a cafe the other day and looked at me as if to say are you gona put a few dollars in the tip... ARE YOU INSANE?
It really has gotten worse over the last few years. A decade ago I was so grateful that a local fast food chain was open on Christmas Eve I tried to tip them but they wouldn't let me. (Hey I had to work Christmas Eve as my hardest day and family is just the worst sometimes) Years later same place has le tip cup and the sullen eyed girl glaring at you and it like she's a deaf mute with a chip on her shoulder.
It is not my place to pay for the waiter/waitress to pay their wages
Have you ever had a reaction back for not tipping? Does the accent help? I imagine they expect far less tips from foreingers/tourists etc?