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- Опубліковано 8 сер 2024
- 750HP RWD Honda Prelude! Converting a FWD Honda to a RWD platform is not easy task, but it does come with some solid benefits as we will discuss looking at this F20c powered space framed Honda Prelude [TECH TOUR].
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With an Ethanol fed, 24-26 PSI boosted, 9,000 RPM 750hp Dandy Engines F20c boasting Eagle Rods, factory crank and camshafts (because they're that good), aftermarket pistons, SuperTech valves and a new Garrett G35-900, this Fastr sponsored RWD converted Honda Prelude is no slouch in its regular appearances in the ACL Race Series.
Professional driver Brett Dickie took a few moments while at the World Time Attack Challenge to discuss his build (with the help of his skilled father) discussing the some of the advantages the rear wheel drive (RWD) conversion gives a driver behind the wheel along with his thoughts in passing on EMtrons torque management system.
As you might have guessed, the car runs an ProWire Performance Wiring fitted EMtron KV8 ECU along with a MoTeC CDL dash for some extra logging bandwidth and driver display duties which Brett felt was the best combination he could get for performance and his requirements without blowing out the budget too far.
We caught up with Brett just before his first run with the new Garrett G35-900 turbocharger which is replacing a 3076 and we look forward to getting his thoughts on a comparison next time we chat along with some of the data this system can and will provide him with as he and his team gets it all dialed in with the help of a Turbosmart E-Gate (electronic wastegate), DBW blow off valve, MAP sensors pre and post the throttle body and an exhaust pressure sensor.
With no bolt-on solution available, the dry sump setup is a mix of BDG dry sump components and a custom sump, with Brett sharing some thoughts on what he has learnt and would do differently second time around.
Tucked behind the F series engine is a 6 speed TTi GTO sequential gearbox and Motorsport Services strain gauge lever which feeds a GJ Drivelines driveshaft and R200 LSD diff center nicked from a Nissan Skylines rear end. The Nissan parts list also includes the uprights, with 300ZX ones used to help try and reign in custom work and give more bolt in part options, and of course being something that physically worked with the package.
Also touched on are some of the boost control strategies employed, but Brett is pretty straight up that his knowledge is more focused on being behind the wheel than behind the laptop, and with 20+ years of it his no doubt his feedback goes a long way to help dial things in for race day.
You can catch Brett and this build racing in the ACL Race Series, and you can catch Brett racing other cars like the previous title winning Elusive Racing DC2 Integra at the World Time Attack Challenge as well as other cars in Global Time Attack and Pikes Peak Hill Climb events.
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0:00 - Why A RWD Prelude
0:48 - FWD Vs RWD
1:58 - Honda RWD Conversion
2:58 - Suspension Geometry Setup
4:08 - F20 Powerplant, Why?
5:35 - Engine Internals
6:14 - Peak Power Isn't The Only Factor
6:35 - Honda Head Porting
7:23 - Boost, Power, Fuel
7:50 - Oiling System
9:45 - Gearbox
10:13 - Shifting
11:08 - Driveline
11:48 - Gearbox and Driveline Cooling
12:25 - Electronics
12:55 - How Data Logging Is Done
13:37 - G35-900 Turbo Upgrade
14:55 - Torque Management: What a driver wants
15:59 - Boost Control
18:02 - Learn More
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Cheers for the thumbs up and comments guys!
This is the first full [TECH TOUR] from this years World Time Attack Challenge and there are a bunch more to come over the next few weeks.
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The prelude should have been RWD from the factory. Honestly it would look so good sliding next to an s-chassis or an rx7
I’ve always said that , they look like they should be .
Such an amazingly thought out build on such an underrated chassis. Well done, well done 🤘🏼
Yo I was trying to tag you 😂
NOTE: Reuploaded with in-car footage for you guys - Taz.
Thanks lad it's a cool car 💯
This is an interesting build.. and this is my first time see a Honda Prelude with a RWD Lay out.. cool coverage bro 😎 👍🏾 much love from Garden Grove California
Glad you liked it, cheers for the support mate! - Taz.
Such a good interview, both sides are so eloquent! Love all the small details that yall dip into aswell!
I own a 3g prelude, in process of doing h22 swap. Im really interested in what does it take to get a custom body kit that would make my prelude look like that. Still keeping it street car
Contact him mate he will very likely have all the moulds.
Very nice cool unique build .
I always like to see something different and creative .
The engine is very strong 💪 !
Would totally fit JGTC / SuperGT with those fender flares maxed out!
nice build, excellent interview. 👌👌👌
88 prelude. Maybe 89. No one rocks the amber tails. Respect. I had an 88 lude, and painted the Amber's red with testors candy red. It went to Hasport to make mounts for H22 conversion. Was a good sacrifice. But it does need slightly tilted up flip lights.
I had a twin webber 86' prelude si. Unfortunately ended up crashing it, I absolutely loved that car. Super rare now
your wrong the 88-89 tail and front look much better than the 90-91 :P here mine
puu.sh/J5cZ2/f8bda96743.jpg
@@phjil nope. The 90, 91 still looks better. That looks good, but only cause either clean. Most ludes aren't clean.
Amazing build
I hecking love this car. It looks insane.
Pretty Sweet 3rd Gen Prelude!!
This thing is super cool.
Awesome, very nice 😎
I recall a SS2000 Prelude with a 4agze in NZ that was similar to this
Woah! Next level! 😳🙌
I’ve always loved that gen prelude growing up in the 80s/90s… so sleek and compact.
Awesome how the F is mounted mid-engine behind the wheels like an S2k… looks even more behind than an S2k actually.
The prelude was used in the Uk thunder saloons powered by a 500+bhp YB cossie engine over 30 years ago…. Was a fucking cool looking turd at 1000kgs
What kind of hose is that running out of the turbo??
This is my dream here kswap rwd prelude but first H22 swap 😅
Do it! The old you would have - Taz.
i have a 89 aws casket fresh
Wow...won't be calling that one a Honda Quaalude!!
Nice car, that silhouete
Hell yeah that's what's 💯 👌 love it that's a good set up always thinking on something like that and hopefully I see it
I love my prelude..however this is how the prelude should have always been. RWD. Would have made the MSRP more justifiable when these were new.
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What series he race in .
Sports sedans
@@toddxhiggins cool thanks for the reply .
The worst thing about this car is that it's a one seater so no passenger ride haha
3rd gen Prelude never had F20 engine from factory. Only B20xx series
Thry were never rear wheel drive either... 😉 - Taz
@@hpa101 yes i know. I have had one on 3rd gen😊
I miss mine.and those were powered by a B20a5 and B21a1. Not the F20
But this one is powered by F20 which is a big upgrade
comments got riddled with bots huh?
They're actually not as bad these days. Kinda impressive the fake convos they have to be honest - Taz.
The peugeot engine would have been the way to go. Lots of parts availability and good power like the F and K series.
its a Honda it need a Honda engine
Whole time I watched just hoping they’d hush up and show the damn car…
Obviously 😅 - Taz.
I think if his car wasn't mid engined (illegal to do in fia motorsports in Europe)(can't cut the firewall out) he'd be wrong look at btcc or wtcc Fwd is faster . Faster through the corners can carry more speed and rwd is only faster off the line and out of the corners but fwd if far better in the wet and on twisty bumpy tarmac stages 💯 when a Formula 2000 (280hp)(2liter) fwd rally car ie the Peugeot 306 and Renault Megan and Renault Clio kit cars can beat Wrc cars in the late 90s on tarmac like in Corsica it kinda proves my point a fwd beating a 4wd. And In Irish rallying (twisty narrow stages) when a €40k 280hp civic rally car with a k20 is faster than a €100k mk2 escort with a 2.5 Millington 350hp 🤙and even full wrc 4wd cars at the time like the s12 prodrive subarus (€500k) 💯👌
@@savagetuner2404 ther all mid engine I realised he has the engine shoved back which we can't do in fia motorsports 💯 but like for like fwd is faster on twistys. Top fuel is straight line on preped surface when off the line is far more important, f1 have to be rwd ther made mid rear enginened because the rules says so and because 4wd was banned and fwd was too complicated in the early days. I'm talking about on the stages in rallying these boys know me im all rally mainly and hillclimb. but il edit the comment and make it more appropriate to standard placement engine normal vehicles, if you watch touring cars all same weight same power fwd is faster especially in the wet. A fwd civic holds the lap record around suzuka for a saloon car. And a few other tracks around the world.👍I'm also a Mechanical engineer that builds mostly tarmac rallying, hillclimb, time attack, and drift cars here in Ireland 👌 so I've 2 decades of experience. In the motorsport world 👍Nissan had a fwd lmp1 car at one point too. But if its mid engined rwd is better and rwd is arguably more fun but I can make a fwd dance using leftfoot braking and the wand (handbrake)🤣
@@Barry.ONeill LOL the Nissan LMP1 - FIA motor sport isn't the only motorsport
Obviously, obviously, obviously… 😂😂
out of the box preludes handled like a sack of shit, even with 4-wheel-steer.
It's should be a crime to make a video like this and not include a clip of the car in operation where we can hear it and see it.
All this talking and no footage of launch or ride along 😱😏🤦🏽♂️