A couple things to consider that I did not mention/ needed correcting: 1. The Hydrow actually only weighs 145 lbs - the 197 was the BOXED weight when it arrives at your doorstep! 2. Both machines have subscription costs ($38/mo Hydrow, $29/mo Ergatta) and require electrical outlets and wifi to function! 3. Both machines have excellent rowing tutorials for the TRUE beginners! 4. Ergatta has a "Race" mode that I neglected to mention here, but will be making a separate video about. 5. Hydrow has milestone prizes like water bottles, socks, and other awesome swag that you can earn from rowing!!
Hi Austin watching your videos and now I want a rower! Was teetering between that and a peloton and your vids convinced me. BUT now the question is which one?! I also see a NordicTrak rw900 and Avrion and a cityrow. Help!!! I’m a beginner in every sense of the word -like only ever jumped on one at the gym to play the shark game. I like BOTH features of hydrow and ergatta in that the game idea motivates but def like classes/music. Is there one you could recommend that has both aspects for a beginner(whispers: and also looks pretty)? Thanks!
The 'learn how to row' intro courses are a huge deal on the Hydrow. Walking through how the stroke breaks down is massively important. Since the trainers were on or a former national team members, they really are the best of the best at making sure you're doing it correctly. Flailing about quickly is a sure fire way to an injured back.
Couple things from a Hydrow owner (so obviously I'll be biased) from the video a) There is an assessment row that's results are supposed to guide you for the actual workouts with max vs sprint vs run vs jog vs walk pace. They're fairly informative but not always perfect depending on your rowing style (e.g. my endurance isn't as great as my power, so I can do a little better than my prescribed sprint pace for some workouts), so it is up to you to make sure you get the most out of each workout. I haven't found this that challenging, and often times get a really great workout in even on days where I'm not "feeling it," which is probably the biggest reason I'm glad I purchased a Hydrow. b) I wouldn't have anticipated how much I enjoy the "Live Outdoor Reality" i.e. on the water aspect of the Hydrow. It is really visually pleasing and makes rowing a lot more enjoyable for me (a person who sits inside for work all day, and can take "trips" to Miami or California during the winter). c) The inability to create your own workouts is definitely a bummer, especially not even doing a set distance. But for the few months I've had a Hydrow, they've added a lot of updates so that may be possible in the future. The inability to output workout results into excel or something is another platform to do your own analysis is a bummer, but they are a startup and I know a lot of people have requested that info, so could be on the roadmap. d) The leaderboard aspect of the Hydrow combined with the online community really adds to the experience. From the different facebook groups, you get to know a lot of the people you see in the different workouts, and can challenge and compete with each other with a little extra camaraderie, I obviously don't know the extent to which that exists with the Ergatta. As sleek as the Hydrow is, man does that Ergatta look cool. Sorry for commenting on all your Hydrow videos, I'm just a huge advocate for their product!
@@trainingtall Glad to hear it! I just shared a couple of your videos with some other Hydrowers, one on Sprint Form, and one on opening up early - both have helped me a lot as I've gotten more into rowing!
Dan you mentioned that you need to do an assessment row. So is the Hydrow locked into one person or can other people of the household do there own assessment and use it and save there stats etc...
@@ziggymac1488 Yeah, you have multiple profiles for your machine - for mine, we have mine, my girlfriends, and a guest account. I'm not sure if there's a limit to the number of profiles. What's nice is that we can independently earn our "rewards" - so when I hit 100,000 meters, I got a water bottle, and then when my gf hit 100,000, she got a water bottle as well. And you don't HAVE to do the assessment row, it's just a convenient way to estimate your max vs sprint vs run vs jog vs walk paces.
I have the Hydrow. I think it’s worth mentioning you can choose workouts by using filters. You can pick what athlete you want to train with along with duration; and how hard you want to work out (breathe; drive or sweat). It also has racing and you can have multiple rower profiles. It has a progress screen so you see every row , heart rate , your split, meters etc. There is a community within as well as a place to comment and make suggestions directly to Hydrow from your screen on every workout. There is more but my new favorite feature is rowing with Kevin Hart who is their new spokesperson and they are now adding rowing sessions with him. Great fun. I am addicted to this machine and so happy I purchased it
Great video Austin! Just my 2 cents. I am not an avid rower or even someone who likes cardio in any form. I have been bodybuilding and powerlifting off and on my whole life and have only ever done steady state cardio to lose weight when cutting. But I AM an avid gamer and have been since the original cassette computers and the Atari 2600. I bought the Ergatta a few months ago because my gyms shut down due to covid and I was getting so fat-LOL! I can say that this may have been the single best exercise equipment I have ever purchased! I'm not only in much better shape but I my cardio endurance has not been this good since I was in my late 20's, early 30's (I'm 53). I have no experience with any other type of rowing machine but if you are a gamer (and competitive) and looking for a workout like no other-the Ergatta is a quality piece of machinery that really will whip you into shape.
I like both machines, the thing is I will not do a subscription deal, so my question is; is it possible to use the programs on each machine without the monthly subscription? I understand the classes participant aspect would not be available but free rowing and stats on the session and so forth would be what I am after.
The Ergatta can be used without the subscription. You just don't get to keep your stats or see your training progression. It's just a waterrower without the software.
@@jdd4862 You can use the Hydrow without a subscription as well. They call it "just row" mode but likewise it has limited functionality you do get metrics and what not on the screen and the ability to manually adjust the resistance. So basically you can use it like a dumb row machine that requires wifi for some reason.
yea... was looking at same... might go with concept2 and performance monitor. Not a big fan when companies push the proprietary edge with subscription locks.
@@Aerogrow I ended up with the Nordictrack RW900, comes with 1 year sub for iFit. Great rower and I am enjoying the online classes and just rowing with someone makes it more fun than I thought it would. I highly recommend the Nordic RW900 a big bit of kit but great I have 400km on it and try to row at least 3 times a week.
Hey, this question isn't really related to this video, but I've seen many of your other videoes and I know that you give feedback on peoples rowing techniques. And I just got an idea of a video you maybe could do, or as a segment in a technique video. You've probably seen Brian Shaw's 100m WR row and i figured his technique must have plenty of room for improvement. It would also be interesting to see him trying to break it again after actually having trained for it. Keep up the good content!
I'm overweight & trying to choose the best rower. I watched your "big belly" tip video, but I'm wondering which machine you recommend for someone in my position. I love the aesthetics of the Ergatta, but I'm wondering if the close foot spacing will be uncomfortable for me. Thoughts/recommendations?
Got a Hydrow. Prior to getting the Hydrow, I hated exercise. Now, I row 30 minutes 4x per week. Hydrow has training camps for Beginners and others to help keep you on a steady path. Plus, the water bottles, socks, etc. provide an incentive to keep going. Hydrow also has a very large social media presence for folks who feel like they need to be connected.
There is a handle upgrade for all Waterrowers to 17" for 35$. Definitely worth the upgrade. My Waterrower Performance included this from the factory and I can recommend it.
Thanks for the video. It was very informative. If you walked in to a room and the Ergatta and Hydrow were side by side, which would you be inclined to use first?
jee, I wish we could attach a generator to these machines, so we had the satisfaction of knowing we were storing energy we could plug into if the lights went out. That would really sell!
I’m not too competitive, I prefer solo challenges and was really into boxing for a few years pre-Covid... I think the Ergatta is beautiful and the Tron-like video game aspect is really appealing! Think it may work for me!
The monitor is cool. But there are already water rowers with resistance dials/twin tank design available. The tank feels more robust and resistance function works well. Water rower needs to add it for their next models.
I own a physical therapy rehabilitation clinic. One thing I've noticed over the last 21 years in business. Any seat that has enternal wheels that are between the metal tracks or cradled in the sides of the tracks get chewed up over time. You got to tear apart the machines to replace wheels.and this is on recumbent bikes. And these wheels once set up don't have to move during the exercise. The rower is constantly moving. Trust me you know it when a wheel goes out. The water rower seat from what I've witnessed on your channels the seat lifts off. And to me that's a huge pluss just incase I need to fix or replace a wheel. Do you have to replace parts and which one gets warm out over time on both of these machines?
I’m so torn! I know this is a stupid question but can you use the hydrow without it being plugged in like a concept2. I know it’s meant for having a subscription and that it does have a “just row” option without it. I just don’t wanna be left in the dark, literally, if I don’t have power. Also would you say the ergatta is quiet enough for a small apartment that it won’t bother people next door or below?
Appreciate the info and glad I found you. I'm your EXACT build (I'm 6'8", 37" inseam, broad shoulders) and find it nerve-racking when investing in new equipment since I'm not sure I'll fit. Thanks again!
I hope and pray the reviews are accurate for quality, which I fully expect they will be. However, be aware/advised, as a recent cash purchaser that took advantage of the Black Friday sale, was disappointed to learn the day after and a few days after, they added over $300+ in extra equipment for the same purchase. This is great for those who procrastinated, but for me; customer service and sales should have made one aware. I guess I remember the old days of brick and mortar store integrity. It squarely falls on me and I look forward to the workouts and use [and hopefully weight-loss and conditioning] and I hope it gives me years of good service as I am now concerned Customer Service is just a 'refusal' department...I'll update on the equipment but honestly believe it will be great! What's a few pieces of equipment anyway?
UPDATE FOR CUSTOMER SERVICE: AWESOME!! They listened to my concerns and comments, and after reviewing they satisfied me on all aspects of my comments. Proving that they are Customer Oriented and a solid company! ALSO, I LOVE MY WAVE!! I would suggest only buying if you plan to use their coaches and programs..they are worth the money! Thanks!
I just purchased the hydrow excited. I have used rowers at orange theory we will see how this goes. Also should you have lower back pain after rowing ?? Or am I doing it wrong?
Any experience with other smart rowers that have recently come out claiming a similar experience at a lower price than Hydrow? Echelon, City Row, and Aviron all appear to have created something similar, but concerned about quality. Right now I’m leaning to purchasing C2 and using the Hydrow app through an iPad. Assures a quality rower at a lower price point with most of the Hydrow smart features I want to stay engaged.
I love my oxbridge S4 waterrower! May have to buy the ergatta upgrade unless hydrow can figure out their MIA android app... or I'll just wait for Peloton to get into the row game :)
If you buy the S4 Comms Module for your S4, you can Bluetooth connect to apps that offer similar experiences to these all-in-one machines but on that which you've already purchased.
Hello sir am from India and am looking to buy a rower especially for weight loss and over all body fitness.. am 37 years old and don’t have any physical activity background like playing sports etc... I have tried for treadmill but at last I have stopped my research at water rower... which one you suggest based on my location and age and purpose... and where should I order to reach it to India.... will be thankful for your reply..
Does Ergatta require a subscription, or is it optional for expanded content/features? It’s interface doesn’t look like it should be so costly on the membership side.
HELP! I want to get a rower but the Ergatta/Waterrower pricing options are confusing me. If I bought a $1050 rower from Waterrower and the Ergatta upgrade from Ergatta, that would put me at about $1600 vs. $2200 in buying the Ergatta package from Ergatta. It "seems" like they would be the same (except I'd have the flexibility in choosing the exact Waterrower model I want instead of the one Ergatta has chosen). What am I missing? Why give Ergatta an extra $600? Is there some functionality/benefit you only get when purchasing the entire system from Ergatta?
Went with Ergatta, mainly for the "swoosh" vs the "buzzz" 😊 , overall the Ergatta just had better features for me - smaller footprint, looks more like furniture, less weight ... and did I mention that I LOVE the water swoosh as I stroke along. 😎
Austin, I’ve heard that WaterRowers are difficult if not impossible to compare results with other rowers (i.e. Concept 2). How does Ergatta overcome this in their software?
The numbers are still not comparable to concept 2 numbers. For some, that matters, for others, it doesn’t. It all depends on your own goals and aspirations with rowing!
My sister gave me a rower that looks like that ergatta but on machine says water rower. Is this another brand? I was wanting to add the screen but I guess wouldn’t be compatible? Great vid
Will you be planning on review Nordictrack RW900? The coaching roster is quite impressive and the machine is well built. Thank you for your time and consideration.
We have a Hydrow and love it, but it’s essentially a brick without a membership commitment. It looks like the Ergatta would still be functional (without the performance tracking). Is that accurate Austin?
You could take the tablet off, throw it in the trash and still get a great workout. Us old-timers remember a day when work out machines came without high-tech doodads!😁
I saw at 7:41 you were pulling 1:25/500m. The 2000m world record on the Concept rower equates to just under 1:24/500m. Can you compare metrics between different machines?
Those numbers have to be off. I have seen videos of people using that rower and the numbers on the screen were clearly not indicative of their form+effort. Not sure about the hydrow but the other one looks very inaccurate
I'm so torn between these two. I love the look and sound of the Ergatta, but I love the real water pictures of the Hydrow. I feel like the Hydrow classes match the look of the Ergatta better. Anyway, I'm also concerned that being short and overweight having my feet close together like on the Ergatta would bother my knees. So I'm leaning toward the Hydrow.
Very happy learning about rowing machines as my running one broke and now have to look for alternatives. Excellent explanation of the pros and cons of both products. Thanks for your work!
Austin, can you challenge a friend to a workout or workout with a friend in real time? I'm leaning toward Ergatta, based on the terrible customer service reviews I've seen on Hydrow website.
This is very helpful!, have been looking at rowers for months. And the avocado socks are spot on! Question: Ergatta subscription says you can have unlimited profiles under one account (good for family of 5), do you happen to know about Hydrow subscription profiles? The iFit (nordic track only allows 4)
Just got Concept 2 model D delivered yesterday (bought straight from Concept 2), putting the difference of the money to buy Peleton stocks :P Oh, you and DH Rowing are motivation enough; thank you.
For Concept2 users (and any other wireless-enabled rowing machine), there is an app-that-connects option called Regatta (www.teamregatta.com). It's closer to Hydrow's coached workouts but the coach is on the same machine teaching in a studio not on the water in a boat.
Now that I've watched the review on both these machines I'm still happy that I ended up going with the Aviron rowing machine, go check it out if you are still deciding which rower is right for you!
If you haven't decided on a rower yet I would go check out Aviron rower, it's the one I went with and after seeing this review I'm still very happy I chose the Aviron!
Ergatta. I dont like boats and that hydrow looks like a boat. I row on ground not on boats 😎 Get that shit outta my face. Please nobody bring up the irony that rowing is done on a boat or ill puke 🤢
A couple things to consider that I did not mention/ needed correcting:
1. The Hydrow actually only weighs 145 lbs - the 197 was the BOXED weight when it arrives at your doorstep!
2. Both machines have subscription costs ($38/mo Hydrow, $29/mo Ergatta) and require electrical outlets and wifi to function!
3. Both machines have excellent rowing tutorials for the TRUE beginners!
4. Ergatta has a "Race" mode that I neglected to mention here, but will be making a separate video about.
5. Hydrow has milestone prizes like water bottles, socks, and other awesome swag that you can earn from rowing!!
Hi Austin watching your videos and now I want a rower! Was teetering between that and a peloton and your vids convinced me. BUT now the question is which one?! I also see a NordicTrak rw900 and Avrion and a cityrow.
Help!!! I’m a beginner in every sense of the word -like only ever jumped on one at the gym to play the shark game. I like BOTH features of hydrow and ergatta in that the game idea motivates but def like classes/music. Is there one you could recommend that has both aspects for a beginner(whispers: and also looks pretty)? Thanks!
Why can't someone make a machine with a Hydro screen with the Ergatta software on the Concept2 rower...
Trainer at 6:11 is my sister! So awesome to see her doing what she loves! 😊😊
@William Jefferson Your comment isn’t a pretty sight.
I feel sad for any woman/guy who only has an arrogant, clearly self-loathing, keyboard warrior like you to hook up with. Just sayin’...
@William Jefferson the incels are always quick with the comments. Don't go shooting up a school William.
@William Jefferson You wouldn’t know a pretty woman, or how to treat her.
She’s my favorite hydro trainer! 🥰
The 'learn how to row' intro courses are a huge deal on the Hydrow. Walking through how the stroke breaks down is massively important. Since the trainers were on or a former national team members, they really are the best of the best at making sure you're doing it correctly.
Flailing about quickly is a sure fire way to an injured back.
Couple things from a Hydrow owner (so obviously I'll be biased) from the video
a) There is an assessment row that's results are supposed to guide you for the actual workouts with max vs sprint vs run vs jog vs walk pace. They're fairly informative but not always perfect depending on your rowing style (e.g. my endurance isn't as great as my power, so I can do a little better than my prescribed sprint pace for some workouts), so it is up to you to make sure you get the most out of each workout. I haven't found this that challenging, and often times get a really great workout in even on days where I'm not "feeling it," which is probably the biggest reason I'm glad I purchased a Hydrow.
b) I wouldn't have anticipated how much I enjoy the "Live Outdoor Reality" i.e. on the water aspect of the Hydrow. It is really visually pleasing and makes rowing a lot more enjoyable for me (a person who sits inside for work all day, and can take "trips" to Miami or California during the winter).
c) The inability to create your own workouts is definitely a bummer, especially not even doing a set distance. But for the few months I've had a Hydrow, they've added a lot of updates so that may be possible in the future. The inability to output workout results into excel or something is another platform to do your own analysis is a bummer, but they are a startup and I know a lot of people have requested that info, so could be on the roadmap.
d) The leaderboard aspect of the Hydrow combined with the online community really adds to the experience. From the different facebook groups, you get to know a lot of the people you see in the different workouts, and can challenge and compete with each other with a little extra camaraderie, I obviously don't know the extent to which that exists with the Ergatta.
As sleek as the Hydrow is, man does that Ergatta look cool.
Sorry for commenting on all your Hydrow videos, I'm just a huge advocate for their product!
I LOVE your Hydrow input, Dan! Thank you for clarifying and expanding on these points!!
@@trainingtall Glad to hear it! I just shared a couple of your videos with some other Hydrowers, one on Sprint Form, and one on opening up early - both have helped me a lot as I've gotten more into rowing!
Dan you mentioned that you need to do an assessment row. So is the Hydrow locked into one person or can other people of the household do there own assessment and use it and save there stats etc...
@@ziggymac1488 Yeah, you have multiple profiles for your machine - for mine, we have mine, my girlfriends, and a guest account. I'm not sure if there's a limit to the number of profiles. What's nice is that we can independently earn our "rewards" - so when I hit 100,000 meters, I got a water bottle, and then when my gf hit 100,000, she got a water bottle as well.
And you don't HAVE to do the assessment row, it's just a convenient way to estimate your max vs sprint vs run vs jog vs walk paces.
I have the Hydrow. I think it’s worth mentioning you can choose workouts by using filters. You can pick what athlete you want to train with along with duration; and how hard you want to work out (breathe; drive or sweat). It also has racing and you can have multiple rower profiles. It has a progress screen so you see every row , heart rate , your split, meters etc. There is a community within as well as a place to comment and make suggestions directly to Hydrow from your screen on every workout. There is more but my new favorite feature is rowing with Kevin Hart who is their new spokesperson and they are now adding rowing sessions with him. Great fun. I am addicted to this machine and so happy I purchased it
He's actually their Creative Director. But yes, the classes featuring him sound fun.
Great video Austin! Just my 2 cents. I am not an avid rower or even someone who likes cardio in any form. I have been bodybuilding and powerlifting off and on my whole life and have only ever done steady state cardio to lose weight when cutting. But I AM an avid gamer and have been since the original cassette computers and the Atari 2600. I bought the Ergatta a few months ago because my gyms shut down due to covid and I was getting so fat-LOL! I can say that this may have been the single best exercise equipment I have ever purchased! I'm not only in much better shape but I my cardio endurance has not been this good since I was in my late 20's, early 30's (I'm 53). I have no experience with any other type of rowing machine but if you are a gamer (and competitive) and looking for a workout like no other-the Ergatta is a quality piece of machinery that really will whip you into shape.
I like both machines, the thing is I will not do a subscription deal, so my question is; is it possible to use the programs on each machine without the monthly subscription? I understand the classes participant aspect would not be available but free rowing and stats on the session and so forth would be what I am after.
I would like to know the same.
The Ergatta can be used without the subscription. You just don't get to keep your stats or see your training progression. It's just a waterrower without the software.
@@jdd4862 You can use the Hydrow without a subscription as well. They call it "just row" mode but likewise it has limited functionality you do get metrics and what not on the screen and the ability to manually adjust the resistance. So basically you can use it like a dumb row machine that requires wifi for some reason.
yea... was looking at same... might go with concept2 and performance monitor. Not a big fan when companies push the proprietary edge with subscription locks.
@@Aerogrow I ended up with the Nordictrack RW900, comes with 1 year sub for iFit. Great rower and I am enjoying the online classes and just rowing with someone makes it more fun than I thought it would. I highly recommend the Nordic RW900 a big bit of kit but great I have 400km on it and try to row at least 3 times a week.
I love the stuff Hydrow sends when you complete specific meters and the challenges they put out. It really motivates me to row every day !
So true!!!!!!! Sweet prizes for sure!! :)
wait, what do they send? I'm hesitant on getting myself one for christmas
@@soniahernandez8003 water bottle , socks, shirts, hat...depending on the milestone
Hey, this question isn't really related to this video, but I've seen many of your other videoes and I know that you give feedback on peoples rowing techniques. And I just got an idea of a video you maybe could do, or as a segment in a technique video. You've probably seen Brian Shaw's 100m WR row and i figured his technique must have plenty of room for improvement. It would also be interesting to see him trying to break it again after actually having trained for it. Keep up the good content!
A great idea!! I’ll do it this week!
Brought out the avocado socks for this one!
You betcha :)
I'm overweight & trying to choose the best rower. I watched your "big belly" tip video, but I'm wondering which machine you recommend for someone in my position. I love the aesthetics of the Ergatta, but I'm wondering if the close foot spacing will be uncomfortable for me. Thoughts/recommendations?
I wonder the same thing...
Yes. Can we get an answer on this one? @Training Tall
@@huannehughes879 It does not appear so, does it?
Got a Hydrow. Prior to getting the Hydrow, I hated exercise. Now, I row 30 minutes 4x per week. Hydrow has training camps for Beginners and others to help keep you on a steady path. Plus, the water bottles, socks, etc. provide an incentive to keep going. Hydrow also has a very large social media presence for folks who feel like they need to be connected.
There is a handle upgrade for all Waterrowers to 17" for 35$. Definitely worth the upgrade.
My Waterrower Performance included this from the factory and I can recommend it.
Oh! good to know - thank you!!
@@trainingtall not sure about posting links
So just search for WRPH1100 - WIDER 17" HANDLE UPGRADE and you will find it 👍🏻
@@trainingtall In the Waterrower, Any way to adapt the foot pedal distance? These large calves need a bit more room
Thanks for the video. It was very informative. If you walked in to a room and the Ergatta and Hydrow were side by side, which would you be inclined to use first?
jee, I wish we could attach a generator to these machines, so we had the satisfaction of knowing we were storing energy we could plug into if the lights went out. That would really sell!
At 20c/kWh, you would get $1 per 25hours of rowing!
Ergatta, I love playing games, and making it into a tempting game where you’re striving to win and excel against others while getting fit is awesome!
So much fun, right?!
I’m not too competitive, I prefer solo challenges and was really into boxing for a few years pre-Covid... I think the Ergatta is beautiful and the Tron-like video game aspect is really appealing! Think it may work for me!
It's definitely what you're looking for!
The monitor is cool. But there are already water rowers with resistance dials/twin tank design available. The tank feels more robust and resistance function works well. Water rower needs to add it for their next models.
I own a physical therapy rehabilitation clinic. One thing I've noticed over the last 21 years in business. Any seat that has enternal wheels that are between the metal tracks or cradled in the sides of the tracks get chewed up over time. You got to tear apart the machines to replace wheels.and this is on recumbent bikes. And these wheels once set up don't have to move during the exercise. The rower is constantly moving. Trust me you know it when a wheel goes out.
The water rower seat from what I've witnessed on your channels the seat lifts off. And to me that's a huge pluss just incase I need to fix or replace a wheel.
Do you have to replace parts and which one gets warm out over time on both of these machines?
No mention of the races with the Ergatta? That's one of the features that appeals to me a lot.
Covering it in a separate video, but yes I did not mention it!
Great video and awesome enthusiasm!
Hey! I have an expensive iPad Pro... and an expensive WaterRower... what would be my deal to get into Ergata?
So you’re telling me I can basically wash my clothes in the ergatta while I row? I’m sold.
Have you reviewed the NordicTrack rowers/ifit membership?
I’m so torn! I know this is a stupid question but can you use the hydrow without it being plugged in like a concept2. I know it’s meant for having a subscription and that it does have a “just row” option without it. I just don’t wanna be left in the dark, literally, if I don’t have power.
Also would you say the ergatta is quiet enough for a small apartment that it won’t bother people next door or below?
Appreciate the info and glad I found you. I'm your EXACT build (I'm 6'8", 37" inseam, broad shoulders) and find it nerve-racking when investing in new equipment since I'm not sure I'll fit. Thanks again!
Nice man!! Happy to help!
I hope and pray the reviews are accurate for quality, which I fully expect they will be. However, be aware/advised, as a recent cash purchaser that took advantage of the Black Friday sale, was disappointed to learn the day after and a few days after, they added over $300+ in extra equipment for the same purchase. This is great for those who procrastinated, but for me; customer service and sales should have made one aware. I guess I remember the old days of brick and mortar store integrity.
It squarely falls on me and I look forward to the workouts and use [and hopefully weight-loss and conditioning] and I hope it gives me years of good service as I am now concerned Customer Service is just a 'refusal' department...I'll update on the equipment but honestly believe it will be great! What's a few pieces of equipment anyway?
UPDATE FOR CUSTOMER SERVICE: AWESOME!! They listened to my concerns and comments, and after reviewing they satisfied me on all aspects of my comments. Proving that they are Customer Oriented and a solid company! ALSO, I LOVE MY WAVE!! I would suggest only buying if you plan to use their coaches and programs..they are worth the money! Thanks!
I just purchased the hydrow excited. I have used rowers at orange theory we will see how this goes. Also should you have lower back pain after rowing ?? Or am
I doing it wrong?
Honestly, it means you're not engaging your core.
Hydrow user since September and the trainers drill the stroke mechanics into your head.
Any experience with other smart rowers that have recently come out claiming a similar experience at a lower price than Hydrow? Echelon, City Row, and Aviron all appear to have created something similar, but concerned about quality. Right now I’m leaning to purchasing C2 and using the Hydrow app through an iPad. Assures a quality rower at a lower price point with most of the Hydrow smart features I want to stay engaged.
I love my oxbridge S4 waterrower! May have to buy the ergatta upgrade unless hydrow can figure out their MIA android app... or I'll just wait for Peloton to get into the row game :)
If you buy the S4 Comms Module for your S4, you can Bluetooth connect to apps that offer similar experiences to these all-in-one machines but on that which you've already purchased.
Hello sir am from India and am looking to buy a rower especially for weight loss and over all body fitness.. am 37 years old and don’t have any physical activity background like playing sports etc... I have tried for treadmill but at last I have stopped my research at water rower...
which one you suggest based on my location and age and purpose... and where should I order to reach it to India.... will be thankful for your reply..
Does Ergatta require a subscription, or is it optional for expanded content/features?
It’s interface doesn’t look like it should be so costly on the membership side.
Concept 2 is in SALE 😍 there's no better Machine 😱
Oh no way!! I’ll have to check out the sale
Fake news! It’s not on sale!
oh man. the ergatta sounds like nice waves crashing on the shore. nice
HELP! I want to get a rower but the Ergatta/Waterrower pricing options are confusing me. If I bought a $1050 rower from Waterrower and the Ergatta upgrade from Ergatta, that would put me at about $1600 vs. $2200 in buying the Ergatta package from Ergatta. It "seems" like they would be the same (except I'd have the flexibility in choosing the exact Waterrower model I want instead of the one Ergatta has chosen). What am I missing? Why give Ergatta an extra $600? Is there some functionality/benefit you only get when purchasing the entire system from Ergatta?
What did you end up doing?
@@sphx neither. I got a great deal on a First Degree Fitness commercial rower. That's what I bought.
Went with Ergatta, mainly for the "swoosh" vs the "buzzz" 😊 , overall the Ergatta just had better features for me - smaller footprint, looks more like furniture, less weight ... and did I mention that I LOVE the water swoosh as I stroke along. 😎
Austin, I’ve heard that WaterRowers are difficult if not impossible to compare results with other rowers (i.e. Concept 2). How does Ergatta overcome this in their software?
The numbers are still not comparable to concept 2 numbers. For some, that matters, for others, it doesn’t. It all depends on your own goals and aspirations with rowing!
Smartrow for the waterrower is a game changer
@@kellydavis4330 Tell us more! I have a WaterRower in my cart, and was thinking of getting the Smartrow.
My sister gave me a rower that looks like that ergatta but on machine says water rower. Is this another brand? I was wanting to add the screen but I guess wouldn’t be compatible? Great vid
Ergatta is the tech. WaterRower is the machine - you can buy the tech unit seperately
Will you be planning on review Nordictrack RW900? The coaching roster is quite impressive and the machine is well built. Thank you for your time and consideration.
If I can get my hands on one!
Thanks Austin, unfortunately is not possible to buy both of them for Europe customers. What do you suggest for us, thanks 🙏🏻
We have a Hydrow and love it, but it’s essentially a brick without a membership commitment. It looks like the Ergatta would still be functional (without the performance tracking).
Is that accurate Austin?
It also needs a subscription to use at all
@Flâneur you can't row on the hydrow at all without subscription?? Is it really a total deadweight without subscription?
You could take the tablet off, throw it in the trash and still get a great workout. Us old-timers remember a day when work out machines came without high-tech doodads!😁
I live such a digital life that I prefer something different aka hydrow with natural albeit virtual experience.
What is the best rower that does not require a monthly subscription based cost? I don't need that...
Does any rowing company make a wider bar that you can adapt to a water rower ?
The inability to program your own intervals is a real problem. I guess you could use your phone/ipad/etc but what a pain.
Yup... big drawback for both unfortunately
I saw at 7:41 you were pulling 1:25/500m. The 2000m world record on the Concept rower equates to just under 1:24/500m.
Can you compare metrics between different machines?
Those numbers have to be off. I have seen videos of people using that rower and the numbers on the screen were clearly not indicative of their form+effort. Not sure about the hydrow but the other one looks very inaccurate
Have you done a comparison of the Ergatta and the Aviron rower?
I have the Aviron machine, after seeing this review I'm still happy I went with the Aviron!!! 😊
Please review Teeter Rower
One of the best videos I've seen on rowers. Would love to see Austin as an instructor on Hydrow!
I'm so torn between these two. I love the look and sound of the Ergatta, but I love the real water pictures of the Hydrow. I feel like the Hydrow classes match the look of the Ergatta better. Anyway, I'm also concerned that being short and overweight having my feet close together like on the Ergatta would bother my knees. So I'm leaning toward the Hydrow.
The Ergatta does have Scenic Row, which uses actual videos. The selection is limited, however.
Great video; thanks for unpacking it.
Love your enthusiasm. Very helpful video. Thank you.
Ergatta sounds amazing like you are actually touching the water
What are those shoes you are wearing?
I would like to see an in depth feature comparison between the Hydro and the Aviron.
Very happy learning about rowing machines as my running one broke and now have to look for alternatives. Excellent explanation of the pros and cons of both products. Thanks for your work!
Austin, can you challenge a friend to a workout or workout with a friend in real time?
I'm leaning toward Ergatta, based on the terrible customer service reviews I've seen on Hydrow website.
This is very helpful!, have been looking at rowers for months. And the avocado socks are spot on! Question: Ergatta subscription says you can have unlimited profiles under one account (good for family of 5), do you happen to know about Hydrow subscription profiles? The iFit (nordic track only allows 4)
Hydrow offers as many profiles as you’d like, as well!
I like Hydrow better.
Just buy both
Just got Concept 2 model D delivered yesterday (bought straight from Concept 2), putting the difference of the money to buy Peleton stocks :P Oh, you and DH Rowing are motivation enough; thank you.
For Concept2 users (and any other wireless-enabled rowing machine), there is an app-that-connects option called Regatta (www.teamregatta.com). It's closer to Hydrow's coached workouts but the coach is on the same machine teaching in a studio not on the water in a boat.
Now that I've watched the review on both these machines I'm still happy that I ended up going with the Aviron rowing machine, go check it out if you are still deciding which rower is right for you!
Do you need a subscription for the Aviron? Product looks great but their website doesn't explain much.
This is a helpful comparison. Thanks!
If you haven't decided on a rower yet I would go check out Aviron rower, it's the one I went with and after seeing this review I'm still very happy I chose the Aviron!
I understand that there's a hefty "subscription fee" for these machines. Why don't you elaborate on that?
Sure! I mentioned that in the description box!
But Hydrow I believe is $38/mo and Ergatta is $29/mo
$30 to $40 a month? WTH, I could get a gym membership for that. For that price they should give you the rower for free
Ergatta. I dont like boats and that hydrow looks like a boat. I row on ground not on boats 😎 Get that shit outta my face. Please nobody bring up the irony that rowing is done on a boat or ill puke 🤢
Concept 2 all day long......
The simple fact is that anyone who pays more than like 50 bucks for literally ANY kind of workout contraption is out of their damn mind..
That thing sucks. Hate it. And now they sponsor that race baiter Kaperneck lol. No thanks !