The Boox Palma sold out in a couple of days. Check out this joyful little e-reader here at the US website: shop.boox.com/products/palma?ref=0t1qqbSDWLMb or the EU website: euroshop.boox.com/products/boox-palma?ref=my_f5MKKrpQRge&variant=42892410945736 And let me know what you think of it! (These are affiliate links and I receive a small commission from sales made through them. There is no extra cost to you. Many kind thanks for supporting the channel. 🙂
Hello! Thank You for Your videos about e-ink devices in general and PALMA in particular. I am a huge fan of those, so I bought one after slight consideration. In the video You mentioned that PALMA was being relaunched, since the first batch was totally sold. And they made some changes with that reissuing. Can You please specify what are those? Is there any difference between the devices from the first and second launches or it's just a firmware update? The point is that I suspect purchasing the first batch remains. Cause I see some feature, which are not performing as You or some other bloggers describe, namely: - the background is not that white (kinda too gray) - the image itself (in all the modes except HD) is grainy - probably the most important point - GPU is not performing like You mentioned. I see a slight flickering while scrolling and it does't not erase all the artifacts (ghosting) even in balanced mode. So I would really appreciate if You find time to comment on those: 1) do You notice things like that on Your device or is it just mine? 2) is that because my device is from the first release and they improved that in the second one? Appreciate Your response in advance
Sometimes, one needs a cellphone for setting alarms, receiving notifications, checking calendar, reading emails, even just to use apps like Pomodoro timers, stopwatches, and so on. However, attempting these tasks with a cell phone can often lead to distractions, pulling you away to do something else and wasting valuable time. I believe this device is perfect for all these use cases, even for employing it as an 'assistant' with voice commands. When carrying out these tasks in a fixed location, be it at home, in a library, or in the kitchen, it might be advantageous not to have a SIM card, as it can serve as another source of distraction with incoming calls or text messages. Personally, I'd like to have it for all the purposes I mentioned earlier.
Those of us old enough to remember the old Palm Pilots, Psion organisers etc will remember life before wireless connectivity. Those were focused devices but not totally distraction free. I’m not convinced that a one size fits all device is the right way to go. Whilst some love their foldable phones I find them fiddly, bulky and a bit too delicate. Kindle and an iPhone works for me.
@@raycheshire5581 Exactly a Kindle and an iPhone. For me it is either my Note 10 and my Boox Air or the Tab S9 depending on what I am doing but in the home I wouldn't want another phone sized device when a normal book sized device would do. When out and about if I was traveling long enough to want to read anything then I would have a bag.
A small phone like a pixel4a / Asus ZenFone 9/10 and a surface duo 1 and a kindle paperwhite and small eink reader like the Hisense Hi Reader pro which is what onyx copied for their design of the boox Palma. The Hisense Hi Reader pro HHRP is much better ,it has 4G cellular connectivity and a GPS but no Google play out of the box , one can side load apps. It HAS a fingerprint button but NO camera ! But the Hisense A9 has BEST of the them but NO SD card slot. The highest spec of Hisense A9 is the Hisense A9 Pro ( 8GB ram and 256 GB storage ) !!! And has higher spec cameras. !!!!
I was pining for this device a month ago. I have a Tab Ultra C and just ordered this bad boy. I am doing my master's so this will be a great way to consume textbooks on the go
I'm considering getting a Palma for my work device (email, to-do's, browsing, fb ads) to go with my personal phone the Light Phone 2, an e-ink dumbphone which does have a great hotspot feature.
I am sure you must have looked at Hisense devices? They make e-ink phone/e-readers in this size. They have dual SIM phones, with SD card slot, fingerprint read etc, 300 ppi e-ink displays are 6.1inch. A little more $$ than this but they look interesting.
Thanks for the video, Kit. Interesting as always. What would you say is your experience now that a few months have passed? I bought a Boox Palma and I'm thinking of ways of ways to use it. I will combine it with a Jelly Start for connectivity. Kindle and other reading apps are an obvious one, but also as a way to read articles and news clippings (through, e.g., Pocket). Any other ideas?
Quick question: is there the Boox Notes app on the Palma? Would be cool to be able to type notes on the Palma while on the train, and continue afterwards on the Tab Ultra C when at home.
No there is no notes app natively on the Palma. There could be though, I see no reason why you couldn't access the cloud notes on the Palma! I can't see a way to install the app though!
you calould always instakk google keyboard app and obsidian, evernot or google keep and take your notes that way, that's my plan at least i dont trust myself with a e-ink note taking device as my handwriting isnt great but being able to say, speak into the mic and have it convert the speech to text or just type like a smartphone could be handy.
You could make it a phone running on wifi. But this looks great thanks for your review. If it has a nfc chip you could use a yubikey for 2fa. Ps you have a subscriber
There is no way I can install external dictionary on this device. Dictionary app does not recognize files transferred to the dicts folder. On my Boox Note it works fine and installed dictionaries are seen in the app.
I just ordered one. I wonder if you can change that lock screen image to any picture you have on the device? I would assume you can but I could be wrong.
In sleep mode the battery will last for around 5 days, but I would need to experiment to know for sure. Also depends on what's on the lock screen (like a clock) and whether you keep wifi on while sleeping (settable). The GPU is working all the time, so that is a drain on the battery. My guess is that when used just for reading it will last about 15 hours. But, it is so easy to get lost watching videos and running apps that will drain the battery faster.
Would you use it to watch videos on UA-cam to do craft work or follow, say, cooking recipes or tutorials on how to fix things? Is it crisp enough for that? Really niche question, actually. But hey!
I would say that you could use it to get information from a video, but that you probably wont. Really we all just show videos to show what the screen can do when pushed!
Thank you for this helpful video. I have a nook e ink device, would i be able to read my books on this device from the book app? Im not familiar with boox. Thank you!
Yeah correct, I'm itching to try the hisense phones. From what I can see it's a choice between Boox for a Google play store, hisense for mobile connectivity.
Hello @KitBetts-Masters can i ask you a question about this device? Is it so that it actually uses two e-ink layers, one for greyscale and one for color? Would you be able to tell if it would be possible to put android on it in greyscale output and that way it only uses the greyscale layer (if at all i am right about this!) and leave the color layer unused, thereby saving on battery life substantially? My personal opinion color is a wrong way to go for e-ink devices (makes no sense for me) its just a way to get the interest of the wrong usergroup and I think they know, but want to cash in or something in that fashion. Anyways anyone here know about a company, productline wich goes the route of greyscale e-ink for pocket devices like this? Thx
I respectfully disagree. I'm 56 yrs old, so not some youngster, but I'm still an avid comics reader. Being able to read color comics, especially at night in bed, on my Kobo Libra Color has been a total game changer for me, and I love it. I'm definitely not the "wrong crowd" either... back in the day I bought, and actually still have, the original Kindle... for $359 OUCH 😲.
A9 / Hisense Hi Reader Pro is better than the Palma as both have 4G LTE cellular connectivity and GPS location , and fingerprint reader but the Palma DOES NOT !!! The only thing Palma has that Hisense A9 / HHRP doesn't is : MICRO SD card slot ( Upto 2TB card ) and Google play and Google services out of the box .
Thanks for taking my note onboard, the whole "pocketable" thing for me would be great if it could also replace my phone. I wouldn't use it all the time as a phone but lets say I went on the train somewhere and I wanted to travel light, I can either take a bag and put my tablet / ereader in it and my phone in my pocket, hotspotting to the phone or the hotspot device you showed OR I could just slip this in my pocket and take that one single device, I don't want a phone in one pocket and this in the other really. Your thoughts about the radio approval and licensing make perfect sense though!! I do wonder if this might be a precursor to a future product though with them kind of trialling the market to see if we are ready. It just seems such a wasted opportunity especially putting that fast refresh screen in it as well.
The Boox Palma sold out in a couple of days.
Check out this joyful little e-reader here at the US website: shop.boox.com/products/palma?ref=0t1qqbSDWLMb
or the EU website: euroshop.boox.com/products/boox-palma?ref=my_f5MKKrpQRge&variant=42892410945736
And let me know what you think of it!
(These are affiliate links and I receive a small commission from sales made through them. There is no extra cost to you. Many kind thanks for supporting the channel. 🙂
How can they sell out in a few days when the device is not yet released ,they release it 30th September in UK and October in EU
Hello!
Thank You for Your videos about e-ink devices in general and PALMA in particular.
I am a huge fan of those, so I bought one after slight consideration.
In the video You mentioned that PALMA was being relaunched, since the first batch was totally sold. And they made some changes with that reissuing. Can You please specify what are those? Is there any difference between the devices from the first and second launches or it's just a firmware update?
The point is that I suspect purchasing the first batch remains.
Cause I see some feature, which are not performing as You or some other bloggers describe, namely:
- the background is not that white (kinda too gray)
- the image itself (in all the modes except HD) is grainy
- probably the most important point - GPU is not performing like You mentioned. I see a slight flickering while scrolling and it does't not erase all the artifacts (ghosting) even in balanced mode.
So I would really appreciate if You find time to comment on those:
1) do You notice things like that on Your device or is it just mine?
2) is that because my device is from the first release and they improved that in the second one?
Appreciate Your response in advance
one of the best features is that it isn't a phone! I'd get something like this to get away from phones.. less stress!
Amazon needs to wakeup to this size footprint...I love it!
Sometimes, one needs a cellphone for setting alarms, receiving notifications, checking calendar, reading emails, even just to use apps like Pomodoro timers, stopwatches, and so on. However, attempting these tasks with a cell phone can often lead to distractions, pulling you away to do something else and wasting valuable time. I believe this device is perfect for all these use cases, even for employing it as an 'assistant' with voice commands. When carrying out these tasks in a fixed location, be it at home, in a library, or in the kitchen, it might be advantageous not to have a SIM card, as it can serve as another source of distraction with incoming calls or text messages. Personally, I'd like to have it for all the purposes I mentioned earlier.
Those of us old enough to remember the old Palm Pilots, Psion organisers etc will remember life before wireless connectivity. Those were focused devices but not totally distraction free.
I’m not convinced that a one size fits all device is the right way to go. Whilst some love their foldable phones I find them fiddly, bulky and a bit too delicate.
Kindle and an iPhone works for me.
@@raycheshire5581 Exactly a Kindle and an iPhone.
For me it is either my Note 10 and my Boox Air or the Tab S9 depending on what I am doing but in the home I wouldn't want another phone sized device when a normal book sized device would do. When out and about if I was traveling long enough to want to read anything then I would have a bag.
A small phone like a pixel4a / Asus ZenFone 9/10 and a surface duo 1 and a kindle paperwhite and small eink reader like the Hisense Hi Reader pro which is what onyx copied for their design of the boox Palma. The Hisense Hi Reader pro HHRP is much better ,it has 4G cellular connectivity and a GPS but no Google play out of the box , one can side load apps. It HAS a fingerprint button but NO camera ! But the Hisense A9 has BEST of the them but NO SD card slot. The highest spec of Hisense A9 is the Hisense A9 Pro ( 8GB ram and 256 GB storage ) !!! And has higher spec cameras. !!!!
HHRP / A9 can be rooted and new ROM installed to add GAPPs and Google services.
Hisense devices also has NFC
I was pining for this device a month ago. I have a Tab Ultra C and just ordered this bad boy. I am doing my master's so this will be a great way to consume textbooks on the go
Yeah, I think that you have probably now got the perfect e-ink combo!
I don’t use the WiFi on my Boox unless I’m downloading in which case I’m expecting the battery to go down. Otherwise the battery lasts ages.
I'm considering getting a Palma for my work device (email, to-do's, browsing, fb ads) to go with my personal phone the Light Phone 2, an e-ink dumbphone which does have a great hotspot feature.
Just ordered the white edition and I’m very much looking forward to checking out the form factor.
I am sure you must have looked at Hisense devices? They make e-ink phone/e-readers in this size. They have dual SIM phones, with SD card slot, fingerprint read etc, 300 ppi e-ink displays are 6.1inch. A little more $$ than this but they look interesting.
Just received mine today! I see a mini small black dot on the screen. Would that be normal due to the ink technology?
It's not annoying at all.
Looks like a notification on his wattpad app to me.
Thanks for the video, Kit. Interesting as always. What would you say is your experience now that a few months have passed? I bought a Boox Palma and I'm thinking of ways of ways to use it. I will combine it with a Jelly Start for connectivity. Kindle and other reading apps are an obvious one, but also as a way to read articles and news clippings (through, e.g., Pocket). Any other ideas?
You should be able to have the Fold as your main Whatsapp device and then the Palma as one of your connected devices.
Thanks for this, I didn't know that was possible!
Would you recommend getting a screen protector for the Palma?
Can you you use Maps, Citymapper, Uber, Lime bikes, etc? Assuming you need to tether to do this?
Quick question: is there the Boox Notes app on the Palma? Would be cool to be able to type notes on the Palma while on the train, and continue afterwards on the Tab Ultra C when at home.
No there is NO writing eink small device . Just the Palma eink reading device. Use a small note pad and pen ... cheaper
No there is no notes app natively on the Palma. There could be though, I see no reason why you couldn't access the cloud notes on the Palma! I can't see a way to install the app though!
It doesn't respond to a stylus, but you can install a note app and use on-screen keyboard input or voice-to-text input.
you calould always instakk google keyboard app and obsidian, evernot or google keep and take your notes that way, that's my plan at least i dont trust myself with a e-ink note taking device as my handwriting isnt great but being able to say, speak into the mic and have it convert the speech to text or just type like a smartphone could be handy.
Can you highlight pdfs on this?
You could make it a phone running on wifi. But this looks great thanks for your review. If it has a nfc chip you could use a yubikey for 2fa.
Ps you have a subscriber
Hey, how well does Google Maps work? I know it doesn't have GPS.
If only it had esim
There is no way I can install external dictionary on this device. Dictionary app does not recognize files transferred to the dicts folder. On my Boox Note it works fine and installed dictionaries are seen in the app.
I just ordered one. I wonder if you can change that lock screen image to any picture you have on the device? I would assume you can but I could be wrong.
Yeah, you can change it!
How is the battery life read only or only in standby?
In sleep mode the battery will last for around 5 days, but I would need to experiment to know for sure. Also depends on what's on the lock screen (like a clock) and whether you keep wifi on while sleeping (settable). The GPU is working all the time, so that is a drain on the battery. My guess is that when used just for reading it will last about 15 hours. But, it is so easy to get lost watching videos and running apps that will drain the battery faster.
Would you use it to watch videos on UA-cam to do craft work or follow, say, cooking recipes or tutorials on how to fix things? Is it crisp enough for that? Really niche question, actually. But hey!
Videos on eink are DULL one needs colour in one's life !!!
I would say that you could use it to get information from a video, but that you probably wont. Really we all just show videos to show what the screen can do when pushed!
UA-cam videos look really great. I'm impressed. Of course, it will be b&w.
@@KitBetts-Masters how would you like this device with K3?
Thank you for this helpful video. I have a nook e ink device, would i be able to read my books on this device from the book app? Im not familiar with boox. Thank you!
Hiya, I'm not sure if there is a nook android app. lf there is you could read on this device. 🙂
I want to know how this compares to the hisense a9. From wher I'm from it's easier to get boox over hisense. There is no official reseller.
Yeah correct, I'm itching to try the hisense phones. From what I can see it's a choice between Boox for a Google play store, hisense for mobile connectivity.
Anyone knows if i can open my Boox Notes (from Notes Air 2+) in a Palma?
Hello @KitBetts-Masters can i ask you a question about this device? Is it so that it actually uses two e-ink layers, one for greyscale and one for color? Would you be able to tell if it would be possible to put android on it in greyscale output and that way it only uses the greyscale layer (if at all i am right about this!) and leave the color layer unused, thereby saving on battery life substantially? My personal opinion color is a wrong way to go for e-ink devices (makes no sense for me) its just a way to get the interest of the wrong usergroup and I think they know, but want to cash in or something in that fashion. Anyways anyone here know about a company, productline wich goes the route of greyscale e-ink for pocket devices like this? Thx
I respectfully disagree. I'm 56 yrs old, so not some youngster, but I'm still an avid comics reader. Being able to read color comics, especially at night in bed, on my Kobo Libra Color has been a total game changer for me, and I love it. I'm definitely not the "wrong crowd" either... back in the day I bought, and actually still have, the original Kindle... for $359 OUCH 😲.
Now they need a Boox Phona and Phona C...
Agreed, fingers crossed for 2024!
What type of usb-c is the usb-c port? Speed and power delivery?
Snapdragon 665 processor is going to drink power.
Seems identical to Hisesne A9 e-ink phone.
A9 / Hisense Hi Reader Pro is better than the Palma as both have 4G LTE cellular connectivity and GPS location , and fingerprint reader but the Palma DOES NOT !!! The only thing Palma has that Hisense A9 / HHRP doesn't is : MICRO SD card slot ( Upto 2TB card ) and Google play and Google services out of the box .
Hisense don't have Google Services, so no GPS location. You can use maps, but without GPS location, apparently.@@tahirahmed33
Can you make WiFi calls?
Sorry if this got answered. I only had time to watch the first half
No reason why not. Best to use a VPN when accessing public networks.
Thanks for taking my note onboard, the whole "pocketable" thing for me would be great if it could also replace my phone.
I wouldn't use it all the time as a phone but lets say I went on the train somewhere and I wanted to travel light, I can either take a bag and put my tablet / ereader in it and my phone in my pocket, hotspotting to the phone or the hotspot device you showed OR I could just slip this in my pocket and take that one single device, I don't want a phone in one pocket and this in the other really. Your thoughts about the radio approval and licensing make perfect sense though!!
I do wonder if this might be a precursor to a future product though with them kind of trialling the market to see if we are ready. It just seems such a wasted opportunity especially putting that fast refresh screen in it as well.
Yeah, I agree, that was the thing for me. Carrying two devices all the time isn't going to do it I'm afraid.
Gps?
Yep!
Sim slooooooooooot pleaaaaase
Hisense touch is cheaper and has a dac too
I will buy poke 5 over this if it had the same specs
Poke is average , Hisense A9 Pro is the best mini eink reader
I would love to try the Hisense, check out the Boox Page as well if you haven't already.
Do you get your hair dyed, or is that your natural colour? Eitherway I'd say you have really, really good hair genetics. Hairline is pristine
Lols, yeah, I got lucky. All my family were grey at 25!