Dark Aspects of The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (Part I) - Thane Gaming

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  • This Dark Aspects episode covers the more adult content in The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker on GameCube (and the HD version on Wii U). This first episode sinks into a Hyrule flooded by the Gods, charts creatures that populate its ethereal waters, and plunders the cursed Ghost Ship that sails them...
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  • @Doggie1999
    @Doggie1999 Рік тому +54

    My favorite dark aspect of The Wind Waker is how much Link's grandma is affected by the uncertainty of her grandchildren's safety. Like, she literally worries herself sick, and you can come back later to her having nightmares if I remember correctly.
    She must care for them so much, and I'd hate to imagine my grandma worrying about me so much :(

    • @ThaneGaming
      @ThaneGaming  Рік тому +12

      Yes that's right! You need a fairy to heal her, another villager says she worries so much that she can't sleep & hardly eats anything. I love the focus on family in this game, the Aryll & Link + Grandma dynamic is so heartbreaking but you can make everything right again 😊 I feel bad only visiting her afterwards for a soup refill, though!

    • @reinforcedpenisstem
      @reinforcedpenisstem Рік тому +3

      Surely if she DIDN'T care, that'd be darker...

    • @ThaneGaming
      @ThaneGaming  Рік тому +2

      @@reinforcedpenisstem You make a fair point 😅

    • @michaelkaduck1915
      @michaelkaduck1915 Рік тому +3

      Me too! She is such a loving grandmother, worried sick about their safety in a dangerous world. I always make sure to help her with a fairy on Outset Island before finding Jabun.

    • @magnawaves
      @magnawaves Рік тому +2

      That music, man. Genuinely felt awful for the lady, even now as a grown ass man.

  • @RyanBlazeheart
    @RyanBlazeheart Рік тому +12

    that crash is so creepy. also the cries of the spirits aboard the ship are actually from an unused Jabun sound file for when Nintendo wanted the game to be even darker, but couldn't fit that in due to time constraints.

  • @michaelkaduck1915
    @michaelkaduck1915 Рік тому +16

    This is my favorite Zelda game. It was the first one I played on my Wii U, and before Breath of the Wild, it probably did the best open world in the series. The Cel-Shading is still beautiful even today.
    The darker aspects of the story are done in a way that I think is good for all ages: You appreciate them the older you get.

    • @ThaneGaming
      @ThaneGaming  Рік тому +5

      I agree with your point about WW probably being the best open world in the series until BotW! A Link Between Worlds is another strong contender, but nothing beats the freedom of sailing the open ocean. The weather effects really impressed me when I replayed the Wii U version for this video--I can recall fleeting moments like watching the sun rise on a sea platform or looting an enemy submarine during a thunderstorm in detail. The rain & the wind blowing at different intensities throughout the day too...I think the art direction is sublime and yes the Cel shading still holds up so well! Finding new ways to appreciate a childhood favorite as an adult is the best, so you're right: The Wind Waker's dark aspects are certainly a prime example of that!

    • @Vinman1509
      @Vinman1509 Рік тому +2

      @@ThaneGamingthis in depth reply is why I love ur channel

  • @psipudding
    @psipudding Рік тому +7

    Here I thought I knew every nook and crevice of this game, which is one of my absolute favorites.
    Then you go and fish up an old pot, and, well, I guess you learn something new every day.

    • @ThaneGaming
      @ThaneGaming  Рік тому +1

      I'm always on the hunt for new information about my favorite games! The amount of easily missable details in the 3D Zeldas specifically never seem to end, I've loved these games for years and I'm always learning new things! Glad I could share at least one 😅

    • @psipudding
      @psipudding Рік тому +1

      @Thane Gaming Glad for it, too! Hope this series continues!

  • @Nintendofan1389
    @Nintendofan1389 Рік тому +6

    The freaking redead screams jumpscared me both times in the intro
    I hate that scream so much

    • @ThaneGaming
      @ThaneGaming  Рік тому

      Oh no I had hoped it wasn't too loud, I adjusted the volume on them a few times 😅 sorry for the scare!

    • @Nintendofan1389
      @Nintendofan1389 Рік тому +1

      @@ThaneGaming no it's fine this is required to happen for a series like this. Also so we can all get flash backs of having nightmares to these things

    • @ThaneGaming
      @ThaneGaming  Рік тому

      @@Nintendofan1389 the collective Zelda-based nightmare all fans are guaranteed to share 😅

    • @Nintendofan1389
      @Nintendofan1389 Рік тому +1

      @@ThaneGaming better belive it

  • @quixotes4478
    @quixotes4478 Рік тому +30

    spongebob rollercoaster meme

    • @ThaneGaming
      @ThaneGaming  Рік тому +8

      That's just my channel in a nutshell

  • @ShadowWizard224
    @ShadowWizard224 Рік тому +3

    Wind Waker is known for its charming and joyful vibes but it has such a dark and deep side as well. The story, lore, music, characters, side quests, etc… It’s absolutely amazing and I have it as the 2nd greatest Zelda game ever right behind Ocarina of Time.

    • @republicempire446
      @republicempire446 5 місяців тому

      That’s why I felt that the Wind Waker was like a Don Bluth movie.

  • @martinginski2229
    @martinginski2229 Рік тому +1

    lol love the quick use of the link barrel beatbox

  • @ThaneGaming
    @ThaneGaming  Рік тому +2

    8:59 - Sorry for pronouncing “Molgera” as “Molgeria” here! I’ve said the boss’ name like that in my head ever since I was a kid, and somehow only just realized that there’s no “I” in there…I’ll fix it for the full analysis.
    ALSO, AdamTheGameBoy made a great argument against Koboli being a descendant of the postman in Majora's Mask: they're in different timelines. However, I think Termina can still exist in the adult timeline, and that the in-game text was meant to imply what I said in the video (whether the script writers were thinking of the timeline in the same way back then or not). What do you think?
    Anyway, the second episode wrapping up The Wind Waker will be released in a couple of weeks, and it’ll be just as long (if not longer) than this first part!

  • @tysondennis1016
    @tysondennis1016 Рік тому +2

    Wind Waker: Zelda's cheerful apocalypse.

  • @blooper2088
    @blooper2088 Рік тому +6

    This is the only Zelda game i ever really played, on the Wii U, i was lost and confused for the longest time, before recently giving it a fresh start on a new file [the Wii U i got was pre owned, so there was already some save files there]. And man, this game, it's beautiful. The artstyle is incredible, the game, very enjoyable, the music? Incredible, i have the Mini Boss theme stuck in my head.
    And that credits melody, wow.. i think i remember tearing up when i first heard it. And I'm not someone who cries easily!
    Wind Waker is definitely up there for one of the games i ever played. Alongside Paper Mario, Castle Crashers, and the entirety of the LBP series..
    Good games.

  • @chompy777
    @chompy777 Рік тому +4

    i found your dark aspects series from the mother videos and loved it and I never even saw all the TLoZ videos you've uploaded, i guess my binge starts now. Im playing all the games in chronological order right now so i'm probably gonna be consumed by LoZ content for awhile lol

    • @ThaneGaming
      @ThaneGaming  Рік тому +1

      These are all the Zelda videos I've put out over the years! ua-cam.com/play/PLK37aGUr9BMXkph12NTCSpf2hbQ_Xbsm_.html
      Lots of Majora's Mask. As for Dark Aspects, my biggest video next to the MOTHER compilation is the analysis for Ocarina & Majora! I've also covered Skyward Sword for that series 😁

    • @chompy777
      @chompy777 Рік тому +1

      @@ThaneGaming the binge has TRULY begun

  • @AdamTheGameBoy
    @AdamTheGameBoy Рік тому +2

    The mail man can't be descended from the Termina mail man no matter what. They are entirely different branches of the timeline.

    • @ThaneGaming
      @ThaneGaming  Рік тому +1

      That's an absolutely valid point, though I think it's possible that Termina exists in the adult timeline. I still think that the in-game text was meant to imply he's a descendant from that postman, because there were no other notable postmen in the Zelda series at the time and these two look identical.

    • @TheFallfish
      @TheFallfish Рік тому

      While majoras mask happens in the child timeline do the fact the link in MM is still the hero of time and is the still a kid I think makes a case that if termina is a real place that all of its inhabitants that you see in MM should exist in the adult timeline since all of it denizens would have been born before the timeline splits off

  • @AizakkuAnalysis
    @AizakkuAnalysis Рік тому +2

    Wind waker is still my favourite Zelda game so I'm all for this. 😂

    • @ThaneGaming
      @ThaneGaming  Рік тому +2

      I love it so much! There's no other Zelda that feels quite the same as this one--I love sailing as a way of traversing the world, it feels so good to map out each island & explore all the submarines + sea platforms 😊 all of the characters are so eccentric too, even moreso than other Zeldas which is saying a lot lol. Majora will always be #1 to me but this one comes close!

  • @Videospiel-Man5730
    @Videospiel-Man5730 6 місяців тому

    Speaking of octorok traps perhaps that why we never see the cute lil 2d octoroks in 3d zelda spoooky!

  • @Bluegirl12345
    @Bluegirl12345 Рік тому +2

    If ritos evolved from zoras, how are there both ritos and zoras in Breath of the Wild

    • @ThaneGaming
      @ThaneGaming  Рік тому

      I wondered that too, but it's called divergent evolution! Same with apes and humans

  • @RavenFilms
    @RavenFilms Рік тому

    Nice ending!

  • @rag0t2010
    @rag0t2010 7 місяців тому

    hi, what do you know about the Yusikamis?? (likely the Japanese version I never played anyways)

  • @Andrew_Ditch_Diaper_Supplies
    @Andrew_Ditch_Diaper_Supplies 8 місяців тому +2

    Wind Waker is the poster child sleeper hit. I have never so quickly dismissed a game upon seeing it, for it to turn out years later to be maybe the game I've completed more than any other game. I love this game and I was so rude to it at first. Great video!

  • @nyperold7530
    @nyperold7530 Рік тому +1

    I'll wait until Part 2 to see if you cover a certain aspect, but it pertains to the kidnapped girls...

    • @ThaneGaming
      @ThaneGaming  Рік тому

      I have the script written out, but I don't believe I mention the kidnapped girls again--what aspect are you referring to?

    • @nyperold7530
      @nyperold7530 Рік тому +3

      @@ThaneGaming Early in the game, Quill says that girls have been getting kidnapped from all corners of the Great Sea, but we only ever see three girls, and two are from the same island. So what's been happening to the rest? Well, given that the room they're kept in can be flooded, I think I have a theory... (Then again, there are those other cells... but they're unoccupied...)

  • @Infindox
    @Infindox Рік тому +1

    God, that bit about the Encyclopedia... Hate the book, Termina was always a parallel universe, was even said to be by Anouma at one point. The credits of the book don't even have most of the Zelda team credited like the others, book contradicts facts in other areas that were true for ages.

    • @ThaneGaming
      @ThaneGaming  Рік тому

      I am mixed on Encyclopedia, but mostly negative about it 😅 I love the developer commentary they included for each game, though the contradictory lore explanations elsewhere are egregious (they already did the "it was all a dream" thing better in another game; Termina being born from the Skull Kid's imagination does not add anything to Majora). I will still reference it when applicable, but the games/developer interviews > Encylopedia

  • @chancemitchell4147
    @chancemitchell4147 8 місяців тому

    “With the Wii U shop being put out of commission, that means you can’t buy this game digitally.”
    Oof. Good call asking for it for Christmas when I got it, my GOD

  • @Videospiel-Man5730
    @Videospiel-Man5730 6 місяців тому +1

    Thank you the termina disappears retcon is god awful!
    I mean termina has history prior to skull kid stealing majora so how exactly did majora create termina?
    Also that just a cheap copy of the links awekening ending!

  • @sithlordmikeyp
    @sithlordmikeyp Рік тому +2

    Why are you pronouncing Ariel like that like? Otherwise, I enjoyed the video.

    • @ThaneGaming
      @ThaneGaming  Рік тому

      Her name is spelled "Aryll" so it could go either way--I always said it as "Ariel" in my head too, though I make a habit of looking up pronunciations before doing these videos and the majority prefers "Ay-rill"

    • @sithlordmikeyp
      @sithlordmikeyp Рік тому +2

      @@ThaneGaming wow, I can’t believe I was mistaken about that. All these years I thought she was the little mermaid. Sorry for my blunder

    • @RavenFilms
      @RavenFilms Рік тому

      @@ThaneGaming
      I’ve always said it Ar-rol

  • @PVPpro59
    @PVPpro59 8 місяців тому

    10:55 also known as bullshit

  • @Bluegirl12345
    @Bluegirl12345 Рік тому +1

    Oh my god, that redead jumpscream, I hope they don't return in Tears of the Kingdom

    • @ThaneGaming
      @ThaneGaming  Рік тому

      I kind of want them to return, I'd like to see what they'd look like in this style! They are a bit of a pain to fight though, so maybe they can be restricted to certain areas

  • @CoyoteCocktail
    @CoyoteCocktail Рік тому +1

    didn't realize i was watching part 2 earlier LOL... watching this now too

    • @ThaneGaming
      @ThaneGaming  Рік тому

      I almost didn't split it into two parts, but I think I need to, creatively 😅 I still debate whether it's better to do this or spend another month to finish it all! You're awesome for going back and watching the first part

  • @chriscanul4075
    @chriscanul4075 Рік тому +9

    Ah yes, my first Zelda game!! By no means my favorite, but a great intro to one of my favorite franchises

    • @joshuakolton9955
      @joshuakolton9955 Рік тому +2

      Same! This and Mario Sunshine we’re my very first games. I was about 4 when they came out.

    • @Doggie1999
      @Doggie1999 Рік тому +2

      @@joshuakolton9955 You played The Wind Waker at 4? Wow.

    • @ThaneGaming
      @ThaneGaming  Рік тому +1

      Wind Waker wasn't the first Zelda game I played, but it's the first one I completed! My brothers and I all had our own save files, and we would always play together w/ one of us controlling the Tingle Tuner.

    • @ThaneGaming
      @ThaneGaming  Рік тому +1

      @@joshuakolton9955 I was playing games at 4 as well! Though I was 7 when those came out. Sunshine was my first GameCube game, I remember selling our N64 to get it.

  • @Raezeman
    @Raezeman 2 місяці тому

    recently i dusted off and installed my old wii, to replay some GC games not yet switchified. Prime 2 was first, currently going wind waker. I think twilight princess and eternal darkness are next. Or maybe some sunshine. And a quick double dash.

  • @gamingwithandrea449
    @gamingwithandrea449 Рік тому

    I have the Wii with wind waker HD but in disk form and BOTW digital

  • @Zinkhar
    @Zinkhar Рік тому +2

    GOAT series.

  • @deshawnwilliams503
    @deshawnwilliams503 Рік тому +1

    18:08 I have....NEVER seen that before. Very cool.

  • @rig7078
    @rig7078 Рік тому +1

    Glad I bought the hd version for 20$ back in the day

    • @ThaneGaming
      @ThaneGaming  Рік тому +1

      Me too! I had a Wii U at launch but sold it before I got the chance to play this game, then towards the end of the system's life cycle I bought it again + this game for $20! Never got to experience Tingle Bottles though...
      I wish Nintendo would bring back Selects, but I know they're not going to because of how well every Switch game sells, even 6 year old ones for full price 😅

    • @rig7078
      @rig7078 Рік тому +1

      Yea Nintendo be no entiendo, sometimes so we just hope for the best.

    • @ThaneGaming
      @ThaneGaming  Рік тому +1

      @@rig7078 "Nintendo be no entiendo" is amazing 😆

  • @Rael0505
    @Rael0505 Рік тому +1

    Great video

  • @annaisntcool
    @annaisntcool Рік тому +3

    idk if i’m just biased because it was my first zelda back in the day, but windwaker is just so timeless and charming. i love everything about it. even the god awful triforce charts section :’)

  • @Mr.Sc0tt
    @Mr.Sc0tt Рік тому +1

    Love the Zelda content buddy! Hope all is well!

    • @ThaneGaming
      @ThaneGaming  Рік тому +1

      Thank you man, there'll be more to come for sure! All is well here, hope the same for you ✊

  • @oem4444
    @oem4444 Рік тому

    4:20 the zora only lived in the ocean in majora's mask if i remember correctly, so they never actually lived in seawater. they only lived in fresh water, because majora's mask only happened in the hero of time's head.

    • @ThaneGaming
      @ThaneGaming  Рік тому +1

      Zora live in the sea in Oracle of Ages, too!

  • @reinforcedpenisstem
    @reinforcedpenisstem Рік тому +1

    Zora can live in salt water?

    • @ThaneGaming
      @ThaneGaming  Рік тому

      In Majora's Mask, they live primarily in salt water at Great Bay! There's also the Oracle of Ages Zora that live in the sea

    • @reinforcedpenisstem
      @reinforcedpenisstem Рік тому

      @@ThaneGaming Had no idea