Late Kick Live Ep 529: More UGA Problems | Expanded CFP Issues | I Played EASports CFB25 Early
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- Late Kick Live Ep 529 features Josh Pate discussing Deion Sanders’ comments from Big12 Media Days. Does Colorado get held to a different standard? Also we got the EASports CFB25 video game early. What are some of the biggest takeaways from the game? Will there be issues with the expanded College Football Playoff? Bold Prediction season continues as we look at what you’re willing to put your money on this fall. Can Clemson beat UGA and win the ACC? Will SEC QBs finish 1 and 2 in the Heisman? Will Oklahoma State win the Big12? More issues have arisen in Athens as Kirby Smart and UGA have off-field concerns. Be sure to let us know what you think, SUBSCRIBE to the channel, and CLICK THE BELL for notifications as we bring you multiple live shows per week!
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Georgia’s NIL deal with UBER will be historical
bruh they need to hire you today
Massively underrated comment 😂😂😂😂
Definitely stole this comment from twitter don’t make his head too big
@@101Straightfacts yea man there’s a dude on there @DrewHopper1 we have the identical profile picture if that helps you out
@@101Straightfactshaha came to say the same thing. Vote your sources buddy
"I don't know. I sort of always liked playing them that second game because you could always count on them having two or three key players suspended." ~Steve Spurrier. Spurrier's quote still holds true.
A Georgia off-season without at least 5 arrests is considered a dull affair.
Bold Prediction 11.25/10
UGA fixes its reckless driving issues
My beer just came out my nose🤣
Build a drag strip. It's obvious they like drag racing. Hell , I'd pay to watch football players drag race in the off season. Even come up with a video game. SEC Top Fuel
Over a speeding ticket. 😂
Yeah they need women around so they can impress
Florida has a drag strip down in Gainesville and they suck at football.
The Atlanta Drag strip is just hop, skip away down the raod in Commerce........in fact 441 on the way to Commerce offers ample opportunity to race, except for maybe around Nicholson.......I noted a speed trap ot two in that area in the past.
players are unfocused obviously
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Kirby has to make some hard decisions before more lives are lost. Speed kills
Clearly he’s not willing to do that
Nil
I know man! I don’t even cheer for uga but as a dad I don’t want to see happen to any team. You would think that the fact they lost two people last year even for the newer players that weren’t on the team it would put enough reverence/respect/fear for driving that they would take it serious and not be stupid.
As long as kids are given the funds to drive a fast car, they will keep speeding lmao. Kirby can’t stop this. It’s not that hard to realize that
@TheDrewsoccer this is insane.
Yeah. It comes down to Kirby deciding whether lives are more important then games.
Sounds like time for game suspensions and if continued followed by removal from the team. They represent the university and, therefore, the university must also step in and do something.
Its fascinating to me that Georgia always has this issue but not other crimes
The whole team is from the south (mainly metro atlanta and florida) where we don't respect any form of traffic law and UGA is parked in just about the only county in the south that does care about the traffic laws.
@@KalebThomas-fx3slGeorgia State Troopers are the worst
Josh even slightly carrying water for Kirby/UGA is embarrassing. Obviously Kirby and the UGA administration has the power to truly punish these players and they are refusing to do so. Strip playing time, kick them off the team. Something has to change and expecting these kids (that are already and repeatedly making dumb decisions) to be the catalyst for that change, is absolutely asinine.
Clearly whatever “punishment” Kirby is implementing isn’t even coming close to striking a cord with his players.
Pate is holding back to secure that Kirby interview 😂
@@2daFull he's already interviewed Kirby.
@@chrisbradford5893 future interviews lol
Unless UGA starts kicking these players off the team immediately, this will keep happening and more people will die. Maybe he thinks championships are most important
Why do you think kicking them off the team would change anything? These kids literally have teammates and dear friends DIE from these behaviors. Kicking them off the team is gonna be worse than that???
@@randyclay6257 it’s better than the status quo by a mile. These kids care about NFL futures more than the lives of their teammates (Georgia’s culture is that bad). This would deter them significantly
@@GeorgeFieldgoal dude all teams have players who get dui and other charges and shit I’ve seen a few big ones in the last few years let players that beat they girl play Js they may get a game are two suspension yall haters making it seem worse cause yall all know Georgia is the new standard when it comes to big dawgs keep hating shit happens they shouldn’t be doing it but they did so game are two suspension no more than that no need to ruin the kids careers on the field because if something that happened off the field
How about him requiring they only take Uber while on nil?
lol ok AOC
Long time viewer here, and I normally think you have solid opinions and are fun to listen to. However, on some level Georgia has a culture problem, and there is a lot of nuance to this. It just can’t happen as many times as it has, and not be a culture problem. My perspective is kind of all the same points you had about it not being a culture problem. Players are clearly enabling it with the amount of cases, and if the staff or players can’t correct it, then that is a culture problem. Not a terminal one per se, but still a culture problem.
JP usually has a measured take on anything he talks about. He doesn’t lean too hard in any direction. I don’t think he is ready to take that stance on Georgia yet, as he does face to face interviews with these players and coaches. It should be difficult to call for people’s jobs when you can think of them as people.
@@Adam-us5dvThat's sad if true, though in fairness, it could be his honest opinion. It definitely IS a problem, whether or not you label it "cultural" or not. Kick em off the team. This is unacceptable behavior from grown men representing a supposedly tier 1 organization.
Right, where does this view about a culture problem showing up in many different areas come from? They have a significant cultural problem and it’s not less significant because they haven’t also, idk, stolen crabs or something. Kids are getting killed. It’s a cultural problem.
@@rileyh4169 I think most people agree, including myself. It’s better they get kicked off the team than have to live with prison records.
Josh is the only one to even mention holding the team captains accountable, and he’s right.
As a Georgia fan, it’s pretty embarrassing.
As a UGA fan, I think it's fuckin awesome
@@tannerjones6564 youre pretty weird then
For the people surprised by the location talk, take a look at where 95% of the bowl games are located.
What are you talking about dude it's Kirby job to handle that issue
How can Kirby handle every single player's off time, that's just plain ridiculous
@@melissawenger3973Because it's obviously systemic. 19 times SINCE people on the team literally died? The "locker room" won't do jack shit if they haven't already. Kirby is the leader, and needs to correct the issue.
All of y’all are wrong. Team captains should have more pull than anyone, and they deserve some criticism.
KIRBY CAN SEND A MESSAGE YOU RACE YOUR OUT YOU DON'T SEE THIS AT ALABAMA . KIRBY IS TO BUSY LETTING 5 STARS RUN HIS PROGRAM
@@McChadwickable yes and no. Team captain's just exemplify the culture installed by coaches. This is the type of stuff where even they would advise kicking people off the team if those players refuse to learn. The other thing I would say is that it's not a surprise the police are on the hunt to catch players.
Maybe the culture problem is one of little to no accountability Josh?
I feel as though they’re taking accountability. Have they publicly blamed anyone else?
@@CKGolf77accountability and responsibility are two very different things
@@michaelhigdon2912 at some point the kids themselves are responsible. They’ve been told time and time again not to do it. The law will settle itself out.
@@CKGolf77 I don’t think kicking anyone off the team is the answer but how many of these guys have served suspensions of any kind?
I love when JP talked about strength of record when FSU had a higher strength of record last year and he nor the committeee didn’t care
He's a tool. And while I'm at it. The B1G having such a great reputation, yet they had more teams with a losing record than the ACC. The ACC had more parity.
@@virionspiralthe ACC was garbage and has been for awhile. The only noteworthy program has been Clemson
Georgia is secretly shooting the next Fast and Furious franchise
I recently watched Maurice Clarret on the Jim Tressel podcast and he brought up an interesting point I had forgotten all about. He referred to the fact that going into the Michigan game he and his teammates NEVER mentioned going on to play Miami for the Natty. Never even was in their mindset. Beating Michigan was what mattered. All that mattered. Tressel was 9-1 against Michigan. His only loss came the following season when the narrative started about winning back to back Natty's. They lost. I found that an interesting conversation. And your right on point about the Buckeyes going 11-0 then losing losing that game could destroy the season. Our fans our very sensitive to that scenario. We've seen it too many times. As John Cooper. He was 2-10-1 against Michigan. I love both coaches. But the difference in their legacies is their success this game.
Glad to hear you plan to go to Lawrence and sad to hear they hadn’t reached out to you previously. Lots going on, but even better is Coach Leipold. Excited that you will get to talk with him and others will get to hear from him.
"How about the players do something?" Sounds like the CULTURE is not in place to do that. This is the culture Kirby has created or allowed to create
"What more can I do?"
Well, coach, you can start kicking them off the team for it. I know it's not something anyone wants to do, but if nothing else is working then you need to have the wherewithal to say "If you want to keep doing this BS, then you aren't going to be doing it as a part of this team"
At the very least cut playing time.
Can't ruin their career for going fast
They wanted expansion and are complaining it rigged before we even started playing…
Kirby, no consequences to these dangerous players, no change will happen.
You have no clue what consequences they are facing. Go to a football stadium at 4pm in the summer and do bleachers until the sun goes down. Thats almost getting to the punishments those players are probably facing just on the physical side alone.
@@pleasenobotsjd1744 in what world is running bleachers an adequate punishment for putting innocent people’s lives at risk for your own selfish thrill? People can and have died for UGA players already behaving like this. And that’s the thing, people have already died and yet over a yr later they are still out racing cars. *OBVIOUSLY* whatever “punishment” Kirby is enforcing isn’t deterring anyone from doing it. Cutting playing time is the only adequate punishment. Even that is pretty light, tbh.
@@pleasenobotsjd1744 but that isn't really a punishment to these kids. sure its hard and may even make them puke, but these are the best athletes in the world, they ENJOY pushing themselves physically
@@acdettwilleryou clearly weren’t an athlete.
@@McChadwickable I was a d2 swimmer and even I did not care about physical punishments and even enjoyed it to a degree, so its safe to assume d1 athletes cared even less so. it is very clear that YOU were never an athlete, or if you were you were a pretty shite one
Josh we like the 80 min episodes. More of those please
Find yourself someone to protect you as much as Josh protects SEC coaches
You’re insane. The locker room absolutely deserves some of the blame too.
Post the conversations with Kirby about this, Josh
Good talk about location for playoffs. For example any Penn State fan knows that all hotels within 100 miles are full on football weekends. Easy to play a game with that info!!
No excuses. Kirby is a piss poor disciplinarian.
Winning > Everything apparently
What an fool you are...smh
Can’t wait for the 12 team playoff!
2001 Oregon was #2 in the country and they didnt go to the natty because Nebraska was #3. UCF went undefeated and bama lost and didnt even make the conference championship... Boise st cooked oklahoma. What are talking about the old system was good lol
Kirby lets these guys play after they do this shit thats why they keep doin it..maybe stop buying them hellcats
Nobody can stop them from buying hellcats, dumb take
Glad you made a distinction though subtle about the difference between program and team when talking about tier one. Only three programs have made the playoffs and can be called tier one. Whether a team is tier one comes out in a season.
always appreciate when pate stresses the regular season is more fun than the playoff. Hes a real one.
Imagine next years game depending on how you do during the season you get a Josh Pate segment in dynasty or RTG
JJ Smith will have a trophy this year… but which kind, Heisman? 😁
One of the arrests this past weekend was because the driver crossed a solid yellow line to go around a car stopping at a parking deck entrance.
Yes, that's it - in Georgia you can be cuffed for that if the officer wants to charge you with reckless driving. If you cross solid yellows to go around a stopped bus or garbage truck you can be similarly charged and cuffed in Georgia if the officer feels like it, and thousands of drivers still do it every day.
Wow, it's definitely the off-season!!! Lets see how big of a deal we can make this.
Kirby has done everything he can do *Without sacrificing on the field results*
I am listening from Puerto Vallarta, Mexico 🎉 28:11
My guy! Always a great show Josh
My bold prediction, Rutgers will win at least 10 games this season. Took them for 6.5 easy. Does FanDuel have a line for 9.5?
The players at Big12 media days got to play ea25. It was fun to hear their commentary on themselves, or at least ea’s perception of them as players.
I hope weather isn’t to much of a factor cause I’d love to see some playoff snow games
It's up to the man beside you teammates that's where it's gotta start and stop so it's on the players
Bad timing considering Kyree news
I think you really have to define what a tier 1 team is. Is it based on past, how much does past factor in, is it NIL money, recruiting recently, current roster? Is it who’s outbidding who in recruiting? Tier 1 seems like such a loaded question. Is it who has a chance at playing for the SEC championship? Does strength of schedule matter now that there is no divisions? Obviously drawing Vandy, Kentucky, Arkansas, Miss State helps more than Ole Miss, Tennessee, A&M, or LSU. I’d just like to know the metrics, because regardless of Texas and OU joining, I have a feeling there are some sleep giants that are about to wake up. It’s a different world now.
If Deion was the HC at Georgia with the same results on and off the field troubles as the current Georgia team what would be different?
Atlanta and the surrounding areas have a crazy racing culture now. It’s a big problem around here and those players are falling into it.
Why aren't Georgia players fixing the issues with reckless driving instead of/along with Kirby? Because the entire locker room is full of street racers, obviously 😂
So I think we can safely say at this point Kirby Smart simply just doesn't care about players being reckless behind the wheel of a vehicle. You start cutting guys for this crap I guarantee it'll stop.
If the movement feels like madden, because it looks like it does, I’m going to flip out
It's going to be shit. And just wait until afterwards when the truth about microtransactions and pay to win gets revealed
I watch at 2x so I always hear him say his handle as Leg Kick Josh not *Late. So I my mind instantly goes to him in a gym throwing kicks at a speed bag everytime
Regarding the playoff stuff, I’m just wondering how ‘people on the ground’ are gonna help with practice facilities, hotel accommodations, and weather conditions?
On the issue of the playoffs, of course with realignment schedule difficulty is going to be a factor and who makes the playoffs so I totally agree two G5 undefeated teams will be impossible for them to make it because everyone’s gonna look at the Big Ten and SEC on how difficult their schedule was. As I expect the interesting thing is going to be how ACC and the big 12 are perceived among the media and fans of college football versus the Big Ten and SEC because of schedule difficulty.
It’s because Texas has had one good season in 10 years, not sure they can repeat that success.
Agreed. I did not hear anything conspiratorial in the big 12 playoff statement.
Quinshon Judkins is an inshape Kareem hunt, peak Kareem Hunt.
Define a tier
Aye I can’t lie it did sound like they about to rig the playoffs 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
“Ea did not tell me what to say”
*looks at paper to see what EA told him to say* 🤣🤣🤣
"what more can I do about it" Josh in the next segment you spoke about Deion speaking about coaches being held to a different scale, but you're not holding Kirby to that standard? It's not about "I did all I can" its about did it get fixed! If it aint fixed then you aint do squat!
As a uga fan, student, and life long Athens resident it saddens me to see people on our team acting like this. Not just reflecting our football team, school, but our community. It Just adds another reason for me not to go down broad past dark.
Kirby could put governors on all players cars
Can't GA put in a racing track on campus for these guys?
22:46 was an interception.
ISU on a playoff graphic let’s gooo🌪️🌪️🌪️🌪️🌪️
Josh, I would love to see you do a compare and contrast on Deon and Dabo. I hear a lot of similar themes and viewpoints when both of them speak to the press and I hear a lot of people get upset at what they have to say. Both are polarizing in different ways.But I almost feel like you could swap them and people would react the same.
Josh, when you indicated this all went down on Broad St, I was like where the hell are they racing on Broad St?......between red lights?????? and while the Athens PD has been accused in the past of having a heavy hand with law ennforcement with regards to UGA football players, the University law enforcement isnt too far behind them. Mayve they were in a hurry to get a parking spot at the parking garge on Broad, to get a booth seat at the Grill? The problem is the cars these guys are driving around town.......going back to the Goff and Donnan years, I recall the vehicle of choice of most football players was the Escalade. My assumption back then was the vehicles were coming from University Ford, they (the players) obviously weren't paying for them, but after the loss of life some 18 months ago I believe I read in the legal filings, that those vehicle were actually coming from a out of state dealership. Money has been flowing free and easy in Athens for a long long time, NIL has just made it easier to happen without the assitance of a Chik-Fil-A transfer bag from either the Atlanta HWY or Alps Rd locations in Athens......( Okay okay, I joke!) To me the easy way to stop this stuff, is to implement a progressive dicipline process that is corrective in nature, but could lead to missing games and/or being dismissed from the team.
Thoughts and prayers to the Kiffan family
Bold prediction
Two undefeated or one loss teams make the Big12 ccg, and a one loss team is left out of the cfp. Maybe a one loss team is even left out of the ccg.
What if a conference has more than two undefeated or one loss teams? It is very possible with unbalanced schedules. An defeated team doesn’t make the ccg? Does it force the committee to give multiple Big12 teams a spot? Or is the sos used against them?
Love ya pate there’s no doubt you’re the best but I’ve gotta say this about UGA and it’s only my opinion I think the problem is that when you become apart of the team they sometimes give the athletes very nice and very fast vehicles and what happens when you give a kid a very nice and powerful car kids go wild I would and you would too I think they need to change how they do things as far as that’s concerned I spoke with a local football player in Va and he told me that there was a local football player that got a lambo after signing with them maybe just maybe that is not the best thing for UGA to be doing
Did you see Texas’s endless line of Lambos? Don’t see them having the same problem.
@@jtaylor1219 good point what do you suggest?
Those flights might be the undoing of some teams and maybe even the conferences. Players quiet revolt?
Monte Kiffin was a Nebraska Legend. Two Natties coaching defense at Nebraska. GBR
🌽🌽🌽
At this point UGA should partner with Nascar and give those guys a safe space to race.
This made SEC Media Days more interesting…
The next fast and furious movie is gonna be based on the uga campus
Re: UGA driving issues
Now that players are basically paid professionals, is there any way to punish their pocketbooks?
Return to the topic on location when they schedule the home playoff games and let us know, Pate.
UGA showing their amazing culture. The NCAA will be quiet about it, and will instead focus on Tennessee’s 20th NCAA investigation of the year
Georgia could kick players out but they don’t want to lose games. It’s 100% a culture problem Josh
I feel like we talk about the tiers in conferences every week.
*SEC tiers *
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APD arrested Bo Hughley for driving 17 mph over the speed limit. Could have just given him a ticket but that does not alert AJC for story to go public. Many of us drove over 17 mph above speed limit recently
SEC Pate 😂 is the funniest thing i read and now im starting to believe its true....however i offer push back because his "favorite" non SEC team is the Fighting Hulkamanias (Iowa State Cyclones) and he is fond of the Big 12 competive balance so he says, but wont go to a big 12 media day only SEC BIG 10
I think its comical to say "what more can we do" when Georgia hasn't given multiple game suspensions that include big time games. You do that and then make it an example of how you let your teammates down it 100% stops. Gotta make difficult decisions to help guide these young men.
There’s nothing to do in Athens other than get drunk and drive on super straight roads, so I see why UGA’s struggled w this
There are five teams, maybe six in the ACC that could get to the playoffs but they’re only gonna let one of those teams in which is why we’re leaving that conference
FSU Clemson Miami VT all are playoff contenders. The first time in a long time where the 4 main football powers in that conference are good at the same time. Impossible to sleep on NCST either.
Nah..ACC is trash 🗑️ 2 getting to the playoff would be a miracle
@@OnlyNikeFans Yeah I’m sure that’s the narrative that will be spun.
19 incidents and not one news story you was saying what about sec bias?
Please if he did everything they could it wouldn’t happen. The players know it doesn’t actually matter because Kirby only cares about winning and he’s clearly sent that message
If you are racing on the street, you need to give up your football uniform and put on a state uniform
They sure as hell didnt take care of Tennessee fans smh. Love the show.
SEC Tier List:
Tier 1) Georgia-Alabama
Tier 2) Texas-Ole Miss-LSU
Tier 3) Missouri-Tennessee
Tier 4) OU-Kentucky-A&M
Tier 5) Auburn-SC-Florida
Tier 6) Arkansas-Miss St
Tier 7) Vandy
Re the driving situation: people conflate "these kids get no punishment" with "these kids don't get the punishment I think they should." Also conflate "Kirby hasn't given out appropriate punishment" with "the punishment Kirby has giveb out has been effective."
Obviously whatever they’re doing isn’t working. Can we agree on that? The players arrested were going over 75 in a 40, and one wrecked his car. Clearly the message is not getting across to the players with whatever “punishment” they are facing.
Can’t keep doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Time to cut playing time and/or kick players off the team.
@@BlackMountainCycles I agree they haven't been effective.
Athens Clarke County police department is not professional. All charges of drunk driving on Etienne were thrown out because the police officer said, in court, he ASSUMED Etienne was drunk. Really? He had a blood test, and he was NOT drunk. The bail for these two was $26. That's not a bail for misdemeanors! The third guy was let go without charges. One of the charges was for not using a blinker!!!!! Yeah, guys do stupid stuff. Yeah Kirby is doing whatever he can. This is on the guys, not on the school or coaches. Are we pissed off? Heck yeah!! THE GUYS NEED TO GROW THE HELL UP!!!! The AJC loves to crucify us. I hate the AJC.
Josh did nothing to disuade me from thinking the NCAA game is going to be bad. He addressed it kind of by saying it's a different engine but if it's EA they are going to be clipping through players and some kind of horrible exploit online.
38:14 there it is
Let’s not forget Trevor Etienne’s drunk driving charges that got changed to a bunch of bs smaller charges and swept under the rug
CFP guy's statement was fine until the weather statement. Yes I want to see SEC runners up have to play a game in the horseshoe or big house or Camp Randal Stadium or Happy Valley in December. And yes if the SEC somehow magically gets all the homefield slots in the first round I'll be grumpy