Richard Bulliet, "Violence and Islamo-Christian Civilization"

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  • Опубліковано 21 чер 2012
  • The Hertog Global Strategy Initiative in the Department of History, Columbia University
    presents
    Richard Bulliet
    Violence and Islamo-Christian Civilization
    June 14, 2012
    globalstrategy.columbia.edu/

КОМЕНТАРІ • 29

  • @dgetzin
    @dgetzin Рік тому

    I saw her tog hunt, and I didn't even know it HAD a strategy!

  • @nuqleo
    @nuqleo 12 років тому

    notable, como siempre

  • @ThePayola123
    @ThePayola123 11 років тому +2

    Who was Roger Hertog? Any relation to Roger Rabbit or the Sonic Hedge Hog?

  • @user-ry2qs7xf9k
    @user-ry2qs7xf9k Рік тому

    *To Muslims,history is about sources,this is why we had historians who wrote history while it was happening and this is why authentication of narrations and memorizing is a whole science and a practice,to Westerners,history is like a story,everyone wants to write it according to his ideologies,understanding,political aims...this man is trying to do the same thing,how can you talk about Islam without knowing what the Quran says?how can you say you're a professor of history while you keep falling into presentism?How can you deny historical facts?*
    *Integration is about a common ground where different people live together in peace and it's not forcing people to be the same.*

  • @zewdugirum1486
    @zewdugirum1486 2 роки тому

    Thanks ,this is what happened in the world fkr the last 500 years .

  • @caonexpeguero9984
    @caonexpeguero9984 10 місяців тому

    Is religion violent or is human nature violent? Name one religion that has been non violent throughout history?

  • @youknow6968
    @youknow6968 Рік тому +3

    Beautiful presentation, spoiled by a poor lazy conclusion. The responsibility does not lie on the Muslim side, that's being intellectually dishonest.
    The extremist motivation comes from issues such as Palestine and other ongoing Muslim oppression, resolving those few conflicts will create a solution.
    If South Sudan, can be created, Christian, East Timor, Christian and so on. Then the west and America can certainly help resolve few conflicts in which Muslims are suffering grave oppression.
    Please don't be intellectually dishonest, it's the worse kind of crime.

  • @theroadupward
    @theroadupward 8 років тому +2

    And clans were not "continually fighting" over territory. They knew their clan's land, as did their neighbors who were quite likely to be trade or marriage partners. They resolved conflicts or avenged assaults. Not until farming, surplus, private property and rise of elite (civilization) did they start raiding looting and enslaving. Think: Had to have surplus worth looting and warrior/kings to go out before raiding as a lifestyle was possible/worthwhile.

    • @jeffca
      @jeffca 2 роки тому

      Well said.

  • @HarryBalzacc
    @HarryBalzacc 2 роки тому +2

    Lack of singing in the Catholic Church? can’t be further from the truth.

  • @theroadupward
    @theroadupward 8 років тому +8

    This is wrong. 1) Sacrifice started long before the "Abrahamic" religions 2) Interesting that he de-emphasizes Judaism as an Abrahamic religion! 3) Sorry, communists were militant atheists yet they slaughtered their millions who were Other. Religion does not cause violence-common denominator is humans who think of themselves as The People vs The Other. This applies to hunter-gatherers, to "civilization" and to communists. People simply fit their cosmology, theist or not, to serve this human tendency.

    • @Oners82
      @Oners82 6 років тому +1

      Je'Czaja
      1. He explicitly talked about human sacrifice before the Abrahamic religions so your point there is rendered moot.
      2. He didn't de-emphasise Judaism as an Abrahamic religion.
      3. The vast majority of deaths caused by Communists were NOT the "other", but rather Communists themselves. It was their own people that were dying (primarily due to starvation, over work and politicide), not that the people were killing other groups. There are of course exceptions, but the majority of deaths were within in "in group" which kinda destroys your entire thesis.
      4. "People simply fit their cosmology, theist or not, to serve this human tendency." Really? I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of liberals and proponents of multiculturalism would strongly disagree...

  • @Kaz134
    @Kaz134 9 років тому

    This guy says 'uh' a lot!

    • @chawquee
      @chawquee 6 років тому

      Kaz134 it bothered me alot

    • @chadbrockman4791
      @chadbrockman4791 3 роки тому +1

      @@chawquee Get over it. People who think while they talk often speak haltingly like this. It's not a TV show, and few people can say anything that's really interesting and sound like they're reading it.

  • @andrewsapia
    @andrewsapia 9 років тому

    the Mythraic ritual you are speaking of is a post Christian development and it was a bull not a lamb. You don't need to look any further than the Jewish form of temple worship to make sense of the "blood of the lamb."

  • @neuralvibes
    @neuralvibes 8 років тому +3

    His thesis makes little sense but I understand where he's coming from. He's a big fan of - and teaches courses in - so called global/integrative history, where all cultural specificities and oddities are neatly smoothed out or ignored in order to make a grand world historical narrative viable. The problems with this approach are numerous and his promotion of an "Islamo-Christian civilization" is a perfect example of that.
    Christianity and Islam, by way of Islam's conquest of much of Christian lands, share a common geography and to some extent religious imagery but they certainly do not share a common doctrine. They are indeed both monotheistic, though their view on monotheism differs substantially, but apart from this and other surface resemblances they differ in far more significant ways as Christianity is a spiritual religion while Islam is a legalistic/ritualistic religion.
    This distinction between an inward-looking spiritual religion and an outward-looking legalistic/ritualistic religion makes a world of difference and explains far better the observed difference between the two civilizations as they evolved than any integrative view that sees them as essentially one and the same just because they happened to start in the same geographical space...

    • @Oners82
      @Oners82 6 років тому +5

      neuralvibes
      It is quite amazing how much you got wrong there in such a short post!

    • @jeffca
      @jeffca 2 роки тому

      Holy snap nice response 👌

    • @sonnymak6707
      @sonnymak6707 9 місяців тому

      In that sense and in actual historico realitiy there was no Judeo-Christian civilisation either as both Judaism and Islam are legalistic and ritualistic.
      So let us surmise there was actually a Judeo- Islamic civilisation but not the other one.
      But I dont really agree with you because civilisation is more than just religion and religion influenced civilisation as well as civilisation influenced religion.
      The Greek Orthodox part of Christianity and Rabbinic Judaism co existed and contributed to how Islam was practiced so therefore I will add there is a Islamo-Rabbinic - Greek Orthodox civilisation as opposed to Frankish -Latin Christian Civilisation up to 1790s.
      After that Chritianity do not assert any powerful force on the lives of the The Frankish-Latin Civilisation replaced by the various secular and most time anti Christain political ideologies of the 19th and 20th century .
      Therefore the Christian Civilisation you meant no longer exist.

  • @zewdugirum1486
    @zewdugirum1486 2 роки тому

    I have Adel Koran in German .i Read it all they must reform it for living together otherwise Islamic state people according to tha Koran they're wright .

    • @mohamedali2858
      @mohamedali2858 Рік тому

      Every day, a scandal for Western intelligence is that it manufactures and promotes terrorism. A few days ago, the Foreign Minister of Mali exposed French intelligence that it made terrorists and financed them with weapons. The BBC publishes a report that it was a Canadian informant who recruited the "ISIS bride" Shamima Bejam, which was used by the Western media for months.
      Isn't it clear that ISIS kills and activates in Muslim countries and Western intelligence provides them with all kinds of logistical support, money, weapons and air cover?

  • @chawquee
    @chawquee 6 років тому

    Nice but please stop ahhhhhhing ahh ahhh ahhh ahhhh

  • @bigmike7779
    @bigmike7779 2 роки тому +1

    This guy totally buys the Islamic propaganda that Islam and Christianity are the same and builds an entire book ignoring the history, theology,
    Culture and geography. Professor of baloney.