Religion and the State in Islam: From Medieval Caliphate to the Muslim Brotherhood

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  • A lecture with Columbia University Professor, Richard Bulliet. Sponsored by the Center for Middle East Studies and the Religious Studies Department at the University of Denver. Professor Bulliet is a Professor of History at Columbia and author of numerous books on the Middle East and Islam, including "Islam: The View from the Edge" (1993) and "The Case for Islamo-Christian Civilization" (2004). Bulliet's lecture at DU, introduced and moderated by Religious Studies Professor, Andrea Stanton (a former graduate advisee of his), delves into the contentious history and historiography surrounding the subject of "Islam and the state". The lecture took place on February 18, 2013.

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  • @peterpart192
    @peterpart192 4 роки тому +32

    Islam has the brightest history of all religons and empires ,i truly love islam.

    • @e-college-sait
      @e-college-sait 2 роки тому

      it is an Arab history and not an islam history, certainly in the first 200 years there is no islam in sight.

  • @rubenjames7345
    @rubenjames7345 3 роки тому +8

    While I am no expert in Islamic practice, I have read quite a bit on the subject. This is the first lecture that I've listened to in a while that really covered new territory for me.

    • @wewenang5167
      @wewenang5167 2 роки тому +2

      well this lecture only about Islamic politics, its doesnt not talk about Islamic practice of religion at all.

    • @somaliland3180
      @somaliland3180 Рік тому

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    • @khalidbashir4017
      @khalidbashir4017 6 місяців тому

      ⁠@@wewenang5167yep Einstein

  • @richtusser
    @richtusser 7 років тому +7

    Chomsky about Western Politics and Bulliet knowlegde about Middle East politics and this history lecture combined would be heavenly.

  • @mustafizurrahman2982
    @mustafizurrahman2982 Рік тому +5

    Very informative, thanks for sharing. - I would like to add one thing, the three Holy cities were probably first under the same ruler in around 637-678 AD when Caliph Umar sieged Jerusalem and was under Muslim Ruler (either Caliph or Sultan From Madinah/Baghdad) until the first Crusade, that happened in 1096-99.

  • @ThePayola123
    @ThePayola123 11 років тому +3

    Informative as always Professor Bulliet. Please keep it up.

  • @VM-nc6qz
    @VM-nc6qz 5 років тому +6

    He is Good,very learned, articulate, intelligent , great sense of humor and finally objective.

  • @mysticaltech
    @mysticaltech 7 років тому +6

    Fantastic lecture ! This gentlemen really knows his subject.. Thank Goodness.

  • @area51xi
    @area51xi 3 роки тому +4

    Absolutely mind blowing.

  • @johnstewart7025
    @johnstewart7025 5 років тому +1

    Listening to him talk about the Arab Spring I and II and perhaps III, I'm reminded of earlier discussions about the demise of European communism. There was Hungary 56, Czechoslovakia 68, Solidarity in Poland and finally the fall of the Berlin Wall.

  • @ahmedw5
    @ahmedw5 10 років тому +6

    Very informative and nice lecture.

  • @JurijFedorov
    @JurijFedorov 8 років тому +3

    Such a fantastic talk.

  • @talhaismail1713
    @talhaismail1713 Рік тому +1

    the caliphate(khilafat) only last 30years after the death of prophet(peace be upon him). after those 30 years there is begining of kingdom there was a king not a caliph afterwards until the end of empire ....

  • @gk-qf9hv
    @gk-qf9hv 3 роки тому +4

    The Imam is not in Bermuda triangle. He is playing backgamen together with Jesus in a cafe in Manhatten.

  • @mknine6180
    @mknine6180 Рік тому +1

    In Islam it's well understood that the caliphate is not a birth right as the prophet did not declare that his son's should rule after him. there's no divine authority given to anyone besides the prophets. And by the actions of the rightly guided companions of the prophet the matter should be considered amongs the learned and they should appoint someone from amongst themselves and pick the best person for the job as the companions did, the fact that later down the line some of the caliphs decided to appoint their sons doesn't mean that it's a birth right. Shia is a tiny minority of Muslims who's beliefs are not based on the traditional understanding rather it was a political movement which turned in to religious movement. The reason there isn't a caliph is because the Muslims are fractured by nationalism and there have been attempts to unify but the Americans intervened

  • @asianafroislander1143
    @asianafroislander1143 Рік тому

    Laws & Politics thru out Islamic history till those Arab Springs movements .. From perspective of Professor Richard Bullet .. Largely informative particularly when comparing Islamic systems and western systems to govern our daily lives. 😉 FOR THOSE HUNGRY/THIRSTY FOR KNOWLEDGE 👌

  • @herzwatithink9289
    @herzwatithink9289 10 років тому +2

    I like Ms Stanton's exaggerated blinking

  • @rollbac
    @rollbac Рік тому +1

    Watch the Austin school channel.

  • @bumpkin7171
    @bumpkin7171 2 роки тому +2

    21:00 This incident is not documented in any of the most authentic Islamic books, In fact, it's not found in any Arab history book . hence, It's a crusader's total lie.

    • @SaeedMSR
      @SaeedMSR Рік тому

      This is the first time I hear this, but I need to make sure if it's true or not. Because, while I trust that Islam is perfect, I can't say the same for Muslims after the 1st century A.H.

  • @gk-qf9hv
    @gk-qf9hv 3 роки тому +1

    At 1:14:05 he said "in Iran nobody intervened". What he really meant is " the states did not intervene" :))

  • @lifelessperson1993
    @lifelessperson1993 2 роки тому +1

    The Ottoman empire was the caliphate. Prof. Bulliet is exactly as he titles his book 'fringe' and viewing from the edge looking inward from an outward position as a foreigner, the exact same way people who live in North Korea or Russia might see the West and try to describe it. Listen to him only to know how the West messed up the situation in the Middle East but his professorships not withstanding he knows nothing else on the topic. He gets a number of things inaccurate or wrong. Though he may get some things right, take his words with a grain of salt.

  • @khanofcaledonia6413
    @khanofcaledonia6413 7 місяців тому

    Was it not John Locke who said why can't Europe coexist like how the Ottomans has been inclusive.
    Per Roy Casagranda said in one if his talk, the majority of subjects in Muslim lands were non-Muslims.
    So there's no restriction in the scriptures for being inclusive, it actually encourages it.

  • @khalidriaz909
    @khalidriaz909 Рік тому +1

    Caliphate/khilafat in all the Muslim world or otherwise is only ended till 670 to 680 after the greatest Majesty of Prophet Muhammad S.A.A.W has accepted the mortal passing to Allah the Almighty. After that is Kingdomship in Islam. Sultanante ordaining is self assumed not granted like in letter terms. The conquering of places is done a general of Caliph/khilafat so the speaker has focused on extrmely biased sources

  • @qo3398
    @qo3398 6 місяців тому

    I haven't watched the video but I got fascinated by the title as it says from the Rashidun Caliphate to the Islamic Brotherhood which I totally disagree with. If you ask the majority of people in the Arab / Islamic world you'll find that they don't support the Islamic Brotherhood because they do not represent Islam correctly and from personal experience I could say that they use Islam as a tool for political goals and I hope that nobody actually believes that they are some kind of inheritors of the Islamic culture and I know that I might be overgeneralising and I know that some of them are good people however I totally believe that they are using Islam as a tool for politics in order to achieve their goals and to say that they are the current leaders of Islam like the Caliphates while dismissing the Kings and Sheikhs in Arabia is strange

  • @wewenang5167
    @wewenang5167 2 роки тому +1

    I love how American pronounce Why, When, Who, Where, White...they always emphasize the WH! :D

  • @amalabdallah8481
    @amalabdallah8481 Рік тому +1

    Everyone should watch and listen to Roy Casagranda from Austin University. Now he knows how to explain Islam started and completely more entertaining then this guy

  • @Gog3453
    @Gog3453 6 років тому +1

    The separation of church and state was the worst thing that happened to government.

  • @ALSENANY911
    @ALSENANY911 7 місяців тому +1

    Allah (God) stated in the Holy Koran in numerous verses that the name of the religion of all the prophets of Allah is one: Islam. The 124,000 prophets and messengers of Allah are all Muslims including ABRAHAM, MOSES, JESUS AND MOHAMMAD PEACE BE UPON THEM. THEY ALL CAME WITH THE SAME MESSAGE: ONENESS AND UNITY OF THE CREATOR, ALLAH. THIS MEANS THAT THE UNITARIAN CHURCH CHRISTIANS AND OTHER CHRISTIANS AND JEWS WHO BELIEVE IN ONE GOD ARE MUSLIMS.

  • @khanofcaledonia6413
    @khanofcaledonia6413 7 місяців тому

    Also are all equal in case of civil law.

  • @AlJalandhari
    @AlJalandhari 6 років тому +1

    If you draw a line from medina Bangladesh would be north of it

  • @takiyaazrin7562
    @takiyaazrin7562 7 років тому

    Hello Professor Stanton

  • @abdelwahabkhoualdia2056
    @abdelwahabkhoualdia2056 6 років тому

    I think the first Arab spring happened in Tunisia, not in Algeria in 2011.In 1991 the Islamists in Algeria won election but canceled and the civil war started

  • @matthewkelly2399
    @matthewkelly2399 5 років тому

    good stuff

  • @JurijFedorov
    @JurijFedorov 8 років тому +16

    4:01 to skip the irritating intro

  • @musahyussifyussif2133
    @musahyussifyussif2133 Рік тому

    Improve the audio, i can hardly hear you.

  • @seanou2837
    @seanou2837 Рік тому +1

    orientalism at its finest...pretty much islamophobia narrative in a subtle way.

  • @Jawad-df7hm
    @Jawad-df7hm 2 роки тому +4

    Biased analysis and stupid jokes.

  • @coolworx
    @coolworx 6 років тому +4

    Excellent deconstruction of just another human mythology.
    Will we ever accept our own finitude?

    • @johnstewart7025
      @johnstewart7025 5 років тому

      I sometimes think that mythology or religion expresses a hope in human potential. They also claim all kinds of things that seem to be very unlikely (Risen Christ, hairy thunderbolt throwers etc.)

  • @khanofcaledonia6413
    @khanofcaledonia6413 7 місяців тому

    It's not haram ul haramain. It's qadim ul haramain.

  • @Frankhealy
    @Frankhealy 8 років тому +2

    If he could only speak more fluidly.

    • @wewenang5167
      @wewenang5167 2 роки тому

      he is not a preacher he is a professor, if you wanna hear someone talk non stop blubbering nonsense go to some evangelist christian church lmao

  • @ludwigfajar3084
    @ludwigfajar3084 11 років тому

    allahuakbar!!
    more way to raise the caliphate..

    • @e-college-sait
      @e-college-sait 2 роки тому

      this disproves the caliphate completely, sorry guy

  • @artistdigital
    @artistdigital 11 років тому +1

    Brother it doesn't work like that in Islam. People get leaders as the people are. The case of Nabi(saw) is different. Even in the case of Nabi(saw) the first state was established in Madina, where the people followed Islam in its entirety.

    • @Gog3453
      @Gog3453 6 років тому

      ArtistDigital commanding the right and forbidding the wrong

  • @Meida1924
    @Meida1924 6 років тому

    Miss could u stop movinh. God

  • @alihjaji2433
    @alihjaji2433 Рік тому

    A khalifa doesn't have spiritual power in any sense, he is the elected leader by the ppl

  • @josiahbennett7573
    @josiahbennett7573 3 роки тому

    DU shouldn't be oding middle eastern Studies

  • @Poppalarge86
    @Poppalarge86 6 років тому +4

    The world is slowly but surely learning about SHITS-LAM...

    • @zarfarzar1653
      @zarfarzar1653 6 років тому +2

      Poppa Large U SHIT FRM BOTH OF UR OPENINGS

  • @khanofcaledonia6413
    @khanofcaledonia6413 7 місяців тому

    Was it not John Locke who said why can't Europe coexist like how the Ottomans has been inclusive.
    Per Roy Casagranda said in one if his talk, the majority of subjects in Muslim lands were non-Muslims.
    So there's no restriction in the scriptures for being inclusive, it actually encourages it.