I'm sure I will be in the minority here but 87k for a truck with the capability that this truck has is really good. Prices for high end trucks are well over 100k and they don't have 3/4 the capability of this truck. It's a very nice truck.
Bro when I saw the price, I was taken back… I guess I’m not used to seeing 450’s in anything less than a KR… I did a video on a XL or XLT which was over $80k…
Keep drinking that Kool - Aid. It seems to be working. Probably see gas at "only" $2.95 per gallon as a "cheap" while driving to McDonald's to pay $14.00 for a big Mac meal.
We just bought a 2024 F450 Lariat, FX 6.7HO, Star White, chrome,rapid heat, moonroof, 2kw power, 5th wheel hitch, roof lights, 3.31 electric locking axle, all weather mats, for $92,410.
Great video . . I especially liked your detailed description of the gauges behind the steering wheels and all the different ways they can be displayed - I agree, they are the best in the industry.
@JB_WhoWork I agree with you in today's market that is a good price but that doesn't change the fact that truck prices in general are absurdly high. But I also don't totally blame the auto manufacturers. Consumers created this problem by overpaying for the vehicles in the first place and now we're all dealing with the consequences. I used to get killer deals on new super duties for my whole life up until a few years ago and I hope that will return because the truck I have now is the longest I've kept a truck and I'm itching for a new one especially when I watch reviews on them like yours. Keep up the good work JB!
No joke. $20K over msrp is ridiculous. Heck MSRP is ridiculous! My 2005 F150 fx4 had a sticker of $38,200-I paid $29,000 for it. My starting price would be $10,000 off MSRP…I realize I may have to wait a while🤪
Dealers are trying to charge it, I just walked away from a dealer in Louisiana who has a Limited and they have it marked up and will NOT move an inch which is surprising considering it has been on their lot for about a month now. Also surprising to see a 450 without the without the HO engine. Rear suspension is the same between the 350 & 450 there is no difference in springs. The diff housing is also the same difference within the diff is the axle diameter otherwise it's the same even down to the alloy diff cover. I have found a couple of others on lots but I am going to have to travel. Hopefully get back into a 450 in the next couple of days.
Our Dealerships in IA are not adding anything on top… don’t believe they had previously either. Ordered ‘24 F450 Limited with pretty much all the extra options ($110k) in Sept and Ford’s Web price was the final price when ordered at Dealership.
Its 2025 and F-series CP4 reliability is still amazingly poor, yet at MSRP the dealer is still earning 29% margin - a clear opportunity for GM to take market share.
@@MM-yn9ni Quick Economic Data: In the third quarter of 2024, Ford Pro's EBIT margin was 11.6%. In the first quarter of 2024, Ford Pro's EBIT margin was nearly 17%, which was higher than the mid-teens target. Ford Pro's revenue growth is driven by demand for Transit vans and Super Duty trucks. Ford's profit per car in 2023 was $3,500, which is about $800 or 18% lower than General Motors' profit per car of $4,300 Ford Motor gross margin for the quarter ending September 30, 2024 was 13.54%. Ford Motor average gross margin for 2023 was 15.02%, a 1.12% decline from 2022. Ford Motor average gross margin for 2022 was 15.19%, a 3.97% decline from 2021.
Profit is business, all operate within an oscillating range based on market variables. If you’re able to successfully sell at a high profit, that is driven by the market, indicating product is in demand, that’s good business. Declining margins is attempting to keep product in market zone, retain market or restore market. I don’t see any business practice that’s negative toward customer compared to other similar products. Discounts are to encourage sales when sales are stagnant or declining. I’ve seen large discounts offered by Ram & GM, when Ford wasn’t extending any… indicates sales still favorable. CP4 is certainly the SD 6.7 weak link… although its failure is a minimal percentage. I’d like to see it replaced, although I still prefer the SD.
@@MM-yn9ni A little Economic data: In the third quarter of 2024, Ford Pro's EBIT margin was 11.6%. In the first quarter of 2024, Ford Pro's EBIT margin was nearly 17%, which was higher than the mid-teens target. Ford Pro's revenue growth is driven by demand for Transit vans and Super Duty trucks. Ford's profit per car in 2023 was $3,500, which is about $800 or 18% lower than General Motors' profit per car of $4,300 Ford Motor gross margin for the quarter ending September 30, 2024 was 13.54%. Ford Motor average gross margin for 2023 was 15.02%, a 1.12% decline from 2022. Ford Motor average gross margin for 2022 was 15.19%, a 3.97% decline from 2021. I’d say they’re attempting to adjust to retain high market share during a time when materials are increasing.
Does it come with TPMS? Air Bags for the ride? 2023-2024 Ram 3500 comes with both with great rides and 17" wheels has lot less drama with smooth rides.
Why any manufacturer uses the cp4 fuel pump is beyond me. That unit is a ticking time bomb waiting to go off. It is never a question of if but when it blows up and destroys your fuel system.
Bought my 2023 4500 Limited loaded for $85K. Beast of a truck! Better to drive than my 2021 SRW 3500. And I got tired of Ford dealers thinking I'm one of those idiots that will pay $110K plus for a Lariat 450.
I have always liked the look of a 450, that wide front track I think is what makes it look tough. That grill would actually be the same on the Lariat and up 350 DRW, not unique to the 450.
Man, hasn't even been delivered to the customer and somebody's already curbed the wheel. Hitting the M button on the transmission shifter puts it in a full manual mode. You lock out the gears by leaving it and drive and pressing the plus and minus buttons.
2500.00 at the CRANK, with torque limiting, not sure any of the extra 50/150 makes it to the ground with all the nannies on these trucks. Are the upgrades to the engine more valuable... maybe???
The HO engine is one of the options that lengthens build times. Going with the standard output is one of the things that dealers suggest to get your order faster. I have been waiting nearly 2 years for a H.O. KR order and just got a build date.
So only difference from the 2023 compared to the 2024 is they took out the speakers in the head rest from my understanding? 1k more 4 less speakers? Haha dosnt make sense
The free connected navigation (not that anyone will use this anyway) went from 3 years in 2023 to 1 year in 2024 too. Ford charges $80 a year for the subscription.
I have 23 ford f350 high out put dually paid msrp I did not order it it was on dealer show room the high output is a waste of money all hype I can’t tell the difference from my 2022 6.7 I changed my 24 king ranch order to regular 6.7 spend the money elsewhere not worth it
Never needed more than the standard output....but went ahead and ordered it on my '24, which is scheduled to be here in April. Current '23 F-450 has been perfect....as all my 6.7's have been....just figured with yet another ridiculous windfall I'll be making selling the '23, I'll go ahead and give it a shot.....
I'm sure I will be in the minority here but 87k for a truck with the capability that this truck has is really good. Prices for high end trucks are well over 100k and they don't have 3/4 the capability of this truck. It's a very nice truck.
Bro when I saw the price, I was taken back… I guess I’m not used to seeing 450’s in anything less than a KR… I did a video on a XL or XLT which was over $80k…
Keep drinking that Kool - Aid. It seems to be working.
Probably see gas at "only" $2.95 per gallon as a "cheap" while driving to McDonald's to pay $14.00 for a big Mac meal.
What Ford dealership do you work for?
We just bought a 2024 F450 Lariat, FX 6.7HO, Star White, chrome,rapid heat, moonroof, 2kw power, 5th wheel hitch, roof lights, 3.31 electric locking axle, all weather mats, for $92,410.
Great video . . I especially liked your detailed description of the gauges behind the steering wheels and all the different ways they can be displayed - I agree, they are the best in the industry.
I love it! And i would love it much more it the prices weren't outrageous!
lol, this truck was price great for the options
@JB_WhoWork I agree with you in today's market that is a good price but that doesn't change the fact that truck prices in general are absurdly high. But I also don't totally blame the auto manufacturers. Consumers created this problem by overpaying for the vehicles in the first place and now we're all dealing with the consequences. I used to get killer deals on new super duties for my whole life up until a few years ago and I hope that will return because the truck I have now is the longest I've kept a truck and I'm itching for a new one especially when I watch reviews on them like yours. Keep up the good work JB!
No joke. $20K over msrp is ridiculous. Heck MSRP is ridiculous! My 2005 F150 fx4 had a sticker of $38,200-I paid $29,000 for it. My starting price would be $10,000 off MSRP…I realize I may have to wait a while🤪
Dealers are trying to charge it, I just walked away from a dealer in Louisiana who has a Limited and they have it marked up and will NOT move an inch which is surprising considering it has been on their lot for about a month now. Also surprising to see a 450 without the without the HO engine. Rear suspension is the same between the 350 & 450 there is no difference in springs. The diff housing is also the same difference within the diff is the axle diameter otherwise it's the same even down to the alloy diff cover. I have found a couple of others on lots but I am going to have to travel. Hopefully get back into a 450 in the next couple of days.
Nice build! Congrats to the buyer. 💯 I would get the regular 6.7.
Yup, this truck deserves a owner with a heavy trailer 😂
I bought this truck today. Ordered it in July.
@@camperspecial congrats!
@@JB_WhoWork Not getting the H.O. was a mistake....
Our Dealerships in IA are not adding anything on top… don’t believe they had previously either. Ordered ‘24 F450 Limited with pretty much all the extra options ($110k) in Sept and Ford’s Web price was the final price when ordered at Dealership.
Most aren’t but there are still some greed going on out there
Its 2025 and F-series CP4 reliability is still amazingly poor, yet at MSRP the dealer is still earning 29% margin - a clear opportunity for GM to take market share.
@@MM-yn9ni Quick Economic Data: In the third quarter of 2024, Ford Pro's EBIT margin was 11.6%. In the first quarter of 2024, Ford Pro's EBIT margin was nearly 17%, which was higher than the mid-teens target. Ford Pro's revenue growth is driven by demand for Transit vans and Super Duty trucks.
Ford's profit per car in 2023 was $3,500, which is about $800 or 18% lower than General Motors' profit per car of $4,300
Ford Motor gross margin for the quarter ending September 30, 2024 was 13.54%.
Ford Motor average gross margin for 2023 was 15.02%, a 1.12% decline from 2022.
Ford Motor average gross margin for 2022 was 15.19%, a 3.97% decline from 2021.
Profit is business, all operate within an oscillating range based on market variables. If you’re able to successfully sell at a high profit, that is driven by the market, indicating product is in demand, that’s good business. Declining margins is attempting to keep product in market zone, retain market or restore market.
I don’t see any business practice that’s negative toward customer compared to other similar products.
Discounts are to encourage sales when sales are stagnant or declining. I’ve seen large discounts offered by Ram & GM, when Ford wasn’t extending any… indicates sales still favorable.
CP4 is certainly the SD 6.7 weak link… although its failure is a minimal percentage. I’d like to see it replaced, although I still prefer the SD.
@@MM-yn9ni A little Economic data: In the third quarter of 2024, Ford Pro's EBIT margin was 11.6%. In the first quarter of 2024, Ford Pro's EBIT margin was nearly 17%, which was higher than the mid-teens target. Ford Pro's revenue growth is driven by demand for Transit vans and Super Duty trucks.
Ford's profit per car in 2023 was $3,500, which is about $800 or 18% lower than General Motors' profit per car of $4,300
Ford Motor gross margin for the quarter ending September 30, 2024 was 13.54%.
Ford Motor average gross margin for 2023 was 15.02%, a 1.12% decline from 2022.
Ford Motor average gross margin for 2022 was 15.19%, a 3.97% decline from 2021.
I’d say they’re attempting to adjust to retain high market share during a time when materials are increasing.
Does it come with TPMS? Air Bags for the ride? 2023-2024 Ram 3500 comes with both with great rides and 17" wheels has lot less drama with smooth rides.
Why any manufacturer uses the cp4 fuel pump is beyond me. That unit is a ticking time bomb waiting to go off. It is never a question of if but when it blows up and destroys your fuel system.
It's nice. But I just bought the dodge 4500 ram high out put and got it for 80k longhorn
Bought my 2023 4500 Limited loaded for $85K. Beast of a truck! Better to drive than my 2021 SRW 3500. And I got tired of Ford dealers thinking I'm one of those idiots that will pay $110K plus for a Lariat 450.
Nice!
Any idea of service bed cost?
I have always liked the look of a 450, that wide front track I think is what makes it look tough. That grill would actually be the same on the Lariat and up 350 DRW, not unique to the 450.
I agree, it would be hard for me to go 350 dually if this was sitting next to it
They changed the Continnentals tires?
They were using hd3 hybrids 3 peaks for winter usage,
At least in Canada
Ive heard a lot of dislikes over the conti tires 👍🏾
Anyone know how I can get this interior placed in my 2011 f450 lariat?
Great looking truck!
I agree!
Yes the all on lots are 10k over
I called a local dealership about 3 months ago trying to order a 450, they told me ford wasn’t taking orders for them right now. Is that right?
Just ordered mine 3 weeks ago
if its presold, why is it not locked up.
Would this thing fit in a regular house garage?
It fits in my garage, but only in 2 of the 4 bays ( can fit two of them). It's too long for the other 2 bays.
I love the bed steps, idk why guys aren’t liking them. ?
Because most of them are super-poseurs!
Because they’re too freaking high to step up to plus makes them look like the ugly Chevy trucks
I think they make the truck look better especially the long beds
Id never choose the high output..
Ford needs to quit adding features just to remove them the next year 😂 keeps happening ever since 2019
lol, they had class leading speakers until they deleted them
Need your location??? Larry east miller ?
Man, hasn't even been delivered to the customer and somebody's already curbed the wheel.
Hitting the M button on the transmission shifter puts it in a full manual mode. You lock out the gears by leaving it and drive and pressing the plus and minus buttons.
Rr Diff Locker: The F350 can get a locker Rr Diff… but the Dually and F450 a locker is not available. Road haulers don’t need locker.
That rear end is already heavy enough too
I'm not sure about the F350 DRW, but the F450 gets an LSD in the rear.
My 2024 gmc pro 3500 dually 4×4 crew gvrw is 14000 lbs
So???
All class 3 dually trucks are rated at 14,000 lb GVWR.
Can't sell 'em? Raise the price!
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@@JB_WhoWork fine piece of automotive engineering right there
Front grill looks like 80’s ford front grill. Lol
The egg carton grills
CP4, ugh.
Yeah don’t understand the standard 6.7 ? For 2500 it’s a no brainer
2500.00 at the CRANK, with torque limiting, not sure any of the extra 50/150 makes it to the ground with all the nannies on these trucks. Are the upgrades to the engine more valuable... maybe???
It’s still more than enough but for this type of truck, give me the HO!
exactly@@JB_WhoWork
The HO engine is one of the options that lengthens build times. Going with the standard output is one of the things that dealers suggest to get your order faster. I have been waiting nearly 2 years for a H.O. KR order and just got a build date.
interesting, i'll have to ask about it. you did get the build date with the HO? @@rich7447
So only difference from the 2023 compared to the 2024 is they took out the speakers in the head rest from my understanding?
1k more 4 less speakers? Haha dosnt make sense
The free connected navigation (not that anyone will use this anyway) went from 3 years in 2023 to 1 year in 2024 too. Ford charges $80 a year for the subscription.
I wonder who’s buying all these trucks? Not average Americans.
I have 23 ford f350 high out put dually paid msrp I did not order it it was on dealer show room the high output is a waste of money all hype I can’t tell the difference from my 2022 6.7 I changed my 24 king ranch order to regular 6.7 spend the money elsewhere not worth it
I don’t disagree but the cooling is better on the HO and I like the idea of the turbo being cooled 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork agree 100% when the truck sits it high idles more also I guess also to cool more
Never needed more than the standard output....but went ahead and ordered it on my '24, which is scheduled to be here in April.
Current '23 F-450 has been perfect....as all my 6.7's have been....just figured with yet another ridiculous windfall I'll be making selling the '23, I'll go ahead and give it a shot.....
@@johnpeters9793 awesome congrats on current truck and future order … the ford trucks are all amazing …
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Thanks brother!
Dude stop saying "BUUUTT" in every sentence .....its distracting....yo