Ron, Congratulations on some amazing images. The insight you shared on how to handle two very distinct exposure requirements « in a split second » via button customization is a great tip. Your videos and insight is unparalleled and much appreciated.
Thanks for sharing Ron. This recall function is exactly what I needed the other day while shooting racing cars with my R5. Panning & then trying to catch the flames from behind. I wish I knew this before. I am certainly going to put it to good use next month on Safari.
I recently moved to the R7 from the 7D mark II and have been struggling with the differences in AF. I watched all your R7 and R3 videos and they kept me optimistic. In this video you lament the lack of a third button for back focus, and I’ve been wishing for that too. On my 7Dii I had one back button set for single spot and one for a larger area for birds in flight. On the R7 I have one button set for single spot but felt compelled to use the other one for eye detect (which is amazing). But that left me with no very fast way to get out of single spot when that great bird unexpectedly flies overhead. But I think I found a way. The ring finger on my right hand naturally falls on the DOF button and I was able to program it using the Register / Recall shooting function which you described so well in another video. Using this method, I activated a small Flex Zone focus area along with subject tracking. It works just like the other two back focus buttons. Now I essentially have 3 “back” focus buttons and can pick up on flying birds almost instantly. Thanks for all your help, Ron.
This function is part of the Canon professional DSLRs for quite some years. Ist took me years to discover this powerful function to adapt the camera to a very different scenario, how ever you want to adapt within a split second.
I loved the duck, owl and falcon pics. Outstanding! I have been shooting eagle recently using auto ISO. Exposure when perched is about right, but when they fly into the bright sky, quite underexposed. I can see how setting a button with +2 exposure compensation would fix that. I remain amazed, however how well underexposed images from the R5 can be “saved “ in post processing.
Hey Ron, those are some really amazing images, thanks for sharing. Great video , I have encountered such situations using the R5, so this is helpful. All the best. Will be seeing you soon on a Spoon Bill tour.
Ron, I have been trying to find a solution to the third button control for activating spot AF, so it was great to find out after watching that this works for the R6 as well. Thanks very much. Since I’m already in Massachusetts, I’ll be looking into next year’s Feb. ducks+ event.
great video Ron, I’ve been using same method for a few months now but using * button, I still use shutter and AF buttons for 2 other settings and works perfectly for me, some awesome photos! cheers Terry 👍📷🦅
Love your stuff and videos. I believe you are located in Florida. Do you ever have local (Florida) tours for shooting birds, etc. that one can attend down in sunny South Florida? Or close to south Florida?
Hi Ron, Thanks for the information, I seem to have a problem in as much that on my R5, when I press the far right button it changes as you said but reverts to previous settings when I let go of the button. Have i done something wrong ?
Thanks Ron , really very helpful. I like the idea of of the Register and Recall Function, but when I try to set it up the 'Register Settings' button at the bottom is greyed out so I can`t action it. Any thoughts or am I missing something? Thanks Steve
Hi Ron, I love your video, I've so many of the. Thanks for doing this. I have a question: I can't figure out how to change the parameters in the Register/Recall menu. For example at 14:19 in the above video you changed the ISO from 12800 to 6400. How did you do that? Cheers, Rudy.
Hey, thanks so much for watching. To change the ISO setting all you need to do is move the selection over the to block next to the check mark box, hit the SET button and then use the dial it change setting. I hope this helps. Ron
Great video. The register/recall button is a great tip. I would check the exposure of the shaded area first and then input the shutter speed, ISO, and aperture in the register/recall button. Do you need to press and hold that button the entire time when the subject is in the shaded area? This sounds like an Override of whatever setting you are currently in. I guess when you let go of the button, the camera reverts back to its current setting?
yep. its just an temporarily override while u keep pressing the register/recall button. release the button and u get your "before" settings back. Just tested it on my R6 :)
Hey Ron, I shoot an R5 and I just discovered Register/Recall function in my search to quickly go back and forth between exposures. I am only interested in going from 1/500th sec to 1/15th sec and back again. Everything else stays the way it's set up. I shoot barrel races at rodeos. I want to capture the racer rounding the first barrel, then quickly go to 1/15 sec to do a panning shot between barrel 1 & 2, with the only thing that is in focus, is what is moving at the same speed as my camera is panning - so most of the horse and rider are focused and the background is blurred. My button is set up that way now but I haven't tried it yet. QUESTION: Can I hold the shutter button down to capture the rider rounding the 1st barrel at 1/500th sec and while continually holding the shutter button down, press the assigned Register/Recall button so it instantly switches to 1/15th sec, to get the panning shots, then release the RR button while still holding down the shutter button, to instantly go back to 1/500th sec to capture the rider rounding barrel #2? Or do I have to release the shutter and RR buttons then press and hold the RR button, THEN press the shutter button to get the 1/15 sec panning shots, then do that again to go back to 1/500th sec? By the way, the barrel racers go between barrel 1 & barrel 2 in about 3-3.5 seconds. I am shooting at H level frames per second so I should not fill the buffer. I just don't want to do anything that may harm the camera.
Your main AF setting is spot. When you demo going from the main to the Register Recall the main has a square and a circle within the square. What do those represent IE how did they get there?
To be more complete: in the viewfinder image in the demo there's a square centered over a circle--both white. BTW, I like the recall setting for the shadows--birds flying into shade from bright sun has been an issue I've tried other solutions for and this seems like a good one to try.
Hi Ron, At approx 7:51 where you're setting the far right button, I don't see "AF Point Button, Register and Recall Shooting Func" on my R5. What I see on the screen is "AF Point Button, Switch to Registered AF Func". I've spent ages trying to figure out why mine is different to yours. It certainly doesn't allow me to set up as yours is. I'd be grateful for any suggestions you can think of as to why. Many thanks, Roger.
Yours in not different. On the menu screen where you see "AF point button, Switch to Registered AF Func" hit the set button. This will take you to the "AF Point Button" set up screen. On this screen you need to scroll down 6 lines until you see the "Register/recall shooting func" icon, which is the icon with the camera with an arrow coming in from the left and an arrow going ou the right. Select that Icon. When the Icon turns blue it is selected. Then hit the "INFO Detail set" to get into the detail set menu for the "Register/reca;; shooting func" Here you uncheck everything except "AF method" and "AF operation." You can keep "white balance" and other items checked if you want those to recall along with AF method and operation. Set the AF method to Spot and the AF operation to ON. DO NOT hit the "Register current settings" button when you are done. instead just back out of the menus. Now the AF Point Button should initiate Spot AF when pressed.
Ron, your bird photos are excellent, however it would have been helpful to know your lens type and camera settings (f/stop, ISO. and shutter speed) on each of your examples to compare your suggested settings. It's pretty common knowledge that exposure is dependent on the triangle settings. I have been using the Canon R3, primarily as a sports photographer, but I also use the R3 and 1DX2 for bird photography. Your settings are a bit complicated to follow, and I would be very hesitant to use those settings for following birds in flight in an outdoor setting. First of all 1/30, f/4, at ISO 3200 would overexpose the capture in outdoor daylight shade, plus motion blurred photos by the slow shutter speed. My success for bird photos has been AF Servo, Auto ISO (+ 1/3), 1/640 sec, and f/5.6 or f/6.3 when using my Sigma 60-600 Sport lens. I always use Auto ISO for outdoor daytime photography, unless I am doing portraitures with strobes. Capturing images of hummingbirds is different and will require a 70-200mm 2.8 (also recommend a 1.4x TC) or a 400mm 2.8 with same Auto ISO but shutter speeds up to 1/2500 sec to freeze the motion of the wings. (experimentation required). One thing for sure, The Canon R3 goes into great depths for configuration choices. I'd say most professional photographers have formulated their setting configurations from experiences, but the R3 has new methods of changing past habits.
Hey John, Ron's photos are excellent and these vids are so informative. You may have missed it but, he went to great lengths to assure us that those settings were for demonstration purposes only. Since he was inside he wanted the differences in the settings to be dramatic enough for us to see how quickly that set-up would work. Cheers!
John, please watch the entire video and take note that I stated the settings I used where only examples for demonstration purposes and not for real shooting scenarios. The images I showed were not meant for anything other than entertainment and not for education. Thanks for the comment.
@@whistlingwingsphotography Perhaps real shooting scenarios as a setting guide, especially for those who might follow your camera setting examples without success. While there are many UA-cam examples of exposure configurations and camera menus, it would be beneficial to know why you choose the actual settings on the posted images.
Hey, thanks for the comment. The camo is Mossy Oaks Graphics. You buy it in roll form and cut it to fit the lens you want to camo. A bit of a process, but I love the material. It works great and is cheap.
Ron, great photos, I have been looking for a way to switch quickly to spot metering and to compensate abrupt changes in light levels. In shooting sports(ie, baseball)often late afternoon sun is shaded for part of the field but not the other as the action crosses that line. I will experiment with both methods. Many thanks, Jim
I think you need to clarify that you can’t have both of the examples of ‘recall shoot function’ that you showed in the video, active at the same time for the same button. I watched this back a few times and the way you show it, it makes out that you can have two sets of ‘recall shooting function’ on the same button, at the same time, and to my knowledge, this is not possible. Of course, you could have each of these ‘recall shooting function’ set up to different buttons, but NOT the same button as you demonstrate in the video
Yes...was a bit confused when it was intially set up for Spot...but then changed for the light/shade scenario...clearly only one setting can be used at any one time for a given button
@@whistlingwingsphotography that was what I was saying but the layout of the video kinda leads you to think that you can have two. Obviously those who have an r5 or R3 and have spent a lot of time setting them up would realise this but just thought I’d lay this out because you never actually say, you can used this recall, or maybe this recall would suit you better. You kind of just suggest using both.
Thanks you for the Register and Recall tips.
Ron, Congratulations on some amazing images. The insight you shared on how to handle two very distinct exposure requirements « in a split second » via button customization is a great tip. Your videos and insight is unparalleled and much appreciated.
JL, thanks so much for watching and taking the time to comment.
Thanks for sharing Ron. This recall function is exactly what I needed the other day while shooting racing cars with my R5. Panning & then trying to catch the flames from behind. I wish I knew this before. I am certainly going to put it to good use next month on Safari.
Glad you found it helpful. Thanks for watching and commenting. Much appreciated.
Thanks for the video, works for the R6 as well!
Thank you for the instructions. very helpful. Also enjoyed the photos of your trip.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you, I have been wanting a 4th custom mode. This gave me that. This is perfect
Awesome. Glad you found some useful info
I recently moved to the R7 from the 7D mark II and have been struggling with the differences in AF. I watched all your R7 and R3 videos and they kept me optimistic.
In this video you lament the lack of a third button for back focus, and I’ve been wishing for that too. On my 7Dii I had one back button set for single spot and one for a larger area for birds in flight. On the R7 I have one button set for single spot but felt compelled to use the other one for eye detect (which is amazing). But that left me with no very fast way to get out of single spot when that great bird unexpectedly flies overhead.
But I think I found a way. The ring finger on my right hand naturally falls on the DOF button and I was able to program it using the Register / Recall shooting function which you described so well in another video. Using this method, I activated a small Flex Zone focus area along with subject tracking. It works just like the other two back focus buttons.
Now I essentially have 3 “back” focus buttons and can pick up on flying birds almost instantly.
Thanks for all your help, Ron.
Thanks for the r5 content, Ron. Nice images too.
My pleasure!!
Awsome pictures, congratulations!
Thank you!
This function is part of the Canon professional DSLRs for quite some years.
Ist took me years to discover this powerful function to adapt the camera to a very different scenario, how ever you want to adapt within a split second.
I loved the duck, owl and falcon pics. Outstanding! I have been shooting eagle recently using auto ISO. Exposure when perched is about right, but when they fly into the bright sky, quite underexposed. I can see how setting a button with +2 exposure compensation would fix that. I remain amazed, however how well underexposed images from the R5 can be “saved “ in post processing.
Thanks so much for the comment and adding to the conversation. Much appreciated.
Hey Ron, those are some really amazing images, thanks for sharing. Great video , I have encountered such situations using the R5, so this is helpful. All the best. Will be seeing you soon on a Spoon Bill tour.
Glad it was helpful!
Ron, I have been trying to find a solution to the third button control for activating spot AF, so it was great to find out after watching that this works for the R6 as well. Thanks very much. Since I’m already in Massachusetts, I’ll be looking into next year’s Feb. ducks+ event.
Phil, thanks so much for watching. Hope to see you next next year it would be awesome to shoot with you.
great video Ron, I’ve been using same method for a few months now but using * button, I still use shutter and AF buttons for 2 other settings and works perfectly for me, some awesome photos! cheers Terry 👍📷🦅
Thanks so much for adding to the discussion. Much appreciated.
Love your stuff and videos. I believe you are located in Florida. Do you ever have local (Florida) tours for shooting birds, etc. that one can attend down in sunny South Florida? Or close to south Florida?
brilliant, thank you!!
Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment. Much appreciated.
Hi Ron,
Thanks for the information, I seem to have a problem in as much that on my R5, when I press the far right button it changes as you said but reverts to previous settings when I let go of the button. Have i done something wrong ?
Ron, I've explored this feature today and noticed that there is a slight delay (
Thanks Ron , really very helpful. I like the idea of of the Register and Recall Function, but when I try to set it up the 'Register Settings' button at the bottom is greyed out so I can`t action it. Any thoughts or am I missing something?
Thanks
Steve
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Hi Ron,
I love your video, I've so many of the. Thanks for doing this.
I have a question: I can't figure out how to change the parameters in the Register/Recall menu. For example at 14:19 in the above video you changed the ISO from 12800 to 6400. How did you do that?
Cheers, Rudy.
Hey, thanks so much for watching. To change the ISO setting all you need to do is move the selection over the to block next to the check mark box, hit the SET button and then use the dial it change setting. I hope this helps. Ron
Thanks Ron, I tried every button except the multi-function button. Got it.
Great video. The register/recall button is a great tip. I would check the exposure of the shaded area first and then input the shutter speed, ISO, and aperture in the register/recall button. Do you need to press and hold that button the entire time when the subject is in the shaded area? This sounds like an Override of whatever setting you are currently in. I guess when you let go of the button, the camera reverts back to its current setting?
I had the same question as well
yep. its just an temporarily override while u keep pressing the register/recall button. release the button and u get your "before" settings back. Just tested it on my R6 :)
Hey Ron, I shoot an R5 and I just discovered Register/Recall function in my search to quickly go back and forth between exposures.
I am only interested in going from 1/500th sec to 1/15th sec and back again. Everything else stays the way it's set up. I shoot barrel races at rodeos. I want to capture the racer rounding the first barrel, then quickly go to 1/15 sec to do a panning shot between barrel 1 & 2, with the only thing that is in focus, is what is moving at the same speed as my camera is panning - so most of the horse and rider are focused and the background is blurred.
My button is set up that way now but I haven't tried it yet. QUESTION: Can I hold the shutter button down to capture the rider rounding the 1st barrel at 1/500th sec and while continually holding the shutter button down, press the assigned Register/Recall button so it instantly switches to 1/15th sec, to get the panning shots, then release the RR button while still holding down the shutter button, to instantly go back to 1/500th sec to capture the rider rounding barrel #2? Or do I have to release the shutter and RR buttons then press and hold the RR button, THEN press the shutter button to get the 1/15 sec panning shots, then do that again to go back to 1/500th sec? By the way, the barrel racers go between barrel 1 & barrel 2 in about 3-3.5 seconds.
I am shooting at H level frames per second so I should not fill the buffer. I just don't want to do anything that may harm the camera.
Yes, you should be able to do what you describe. You may get a brief studder in the shooting, but it should work. Ron
@@whistlingwingsphotography Thanks Ron!
Your main AF setting is spot. When you demo going from the main to the Register Recall the main has a square and a circle within the square. What do those represent IE how did they get there?
To be more complete: in the viewfinder image in the demo there's a square centered over a circle--both white. BTW, I like the recall setting for the shadows--birds flying into shade from bright sun has been an issue I've tried other solutions for and this seems like a good one to try.
Hi Ron, At approx 7:51 where you're setting the far right button, I don't see "AF Point Button, Register and Recall Shooting Func" on my R5. What I see on the screen is "AF Point Button, Switch to Registered AF Func". I've spent ages trying to figure out why mine is different to yours. It certainly doesn't allow me to set up as yours is. I'd be grateful for any suggestions you can think of as to why. Many thanks, Roger.
Yours in not different. On the menu screen where you see "AF point button, Switch to Registered AF Func" hit the set button. This will take you to the "AF Point Button" set up screen. On this screen you need to scroll down 6 lines until you see the "Register/recall shooting func" icon, which is the icon with the camera with an arrow coming in from the left and an arrow going ou the right. Select that Icon. When the Icon turns blue it is selected. Then hit the "INFO Detail set" to get into the detail set menu for the "Register/reca;; shooting func" Here you uncheck everything except "AF method" and "AF operation." You can keep "white balance" and other items checked if you want those to recall along with AF method and operation. Set the AF method to Spot and the AF operation to ON. DO NOT hit the "Register current settings" button when you are done. instead just back out of the menus. Now the AF Point Button should initiate Spot AF when pressed.
@@whistlingwingsphotography That's awesome, thanks Ron! Stupidly I just didn't scroll down and see that icon. All sorted now and thanks again!
@@ytytytyt01 Hey, no problem, glad I could help.
Ron, your bird photos are excellent, however it would have been helpful to know your lens type and camera settings (f/stop, ISO. and shutter speed) on each of your examples to compare your suggested settings. It's pretty common knowledge that exposure is dependent on the triangle settings. I have been using the Canon R3, primarily as a sports photographer, but I also use the R3 and 1DX2 for bird photography. Your settings are a bit complicated to follow, and I would be very hesitant to use those settings for following birds in flight in an outdoor setting. First of all 1/30, f/4, at ISO 3200 would overexpose the capture in outdoor daylight shade, plus motion blurred photos by the slow shutter speed. My success for bird photos has been AF Servo, Auto ISO (+ 1/3), 1/640 sec, and f/5.6 or f/6.3 when using my Sigma 60-600 Sport lens. I always use Auto ISO for outdoor daytime photography, unless I am doing portraitures with strobes. Capturing images of hummingbirds is different and will require a 70-200mm 2.8 (also recommend a 1.4x TC) or a 400mm 2.8 with same Auto ISO but shutter speeds up to 1/2500 sec to freeze the motion of the wings. (experimentation required). One thing for sure, The Canon R3 goes into great depths for configuration choices. I'd say most professional photographers have formulated their setting configurations from experiences, but the R3 has new methods of changing past habits.
Hey John, Ron's photos are excellent and these vids are so informative. You may have missed it but, he went to great lengths to assure us that those settings were for demonstration purposes only. Since he was inside he wanted the differences in the settings to be dramatic enough for us to see how quickly that set-up would work. Cheers!
John, please watch the entire video and take note that I stated the settings I used where only examples for demonstration purposes and not for real shooting scenarios. The images I showed were not meant for anything other than entertainment and not for education. Thanks for the comment.
Terrell, thanks so much for helping clarify my settings where just examples for demo purposes. Much appreciated.
@@whistlingwingsphotography Perhaps real shooting scenarios as a setting guide, especially for those who might follow your camera setting examples without success. While there are many UA-cam examples of exposure configurations and camera menus, it would be beneficial to know why you choose the actual settings on the posted images.
Greate video! Please tell me where did you get such a camouflage sticker on the Canon 100-500 lens? Thanks!
Hey, thanks for the comment. The camo is Mossy Oaks Graphics. You buy it in roll form and cut it to fit the lens you want to camo. A bit of a process, but I love the material. It works great and is cheap.
@@whistlingwingsphotography Thanks!
Ron, great photos, I have been looking for a way to switch quickly to spot metering and to compensate abrupt changes in light levels. In shooting sports(ie, baseball)often late afternoon sun is shaded for part of the field but not the other as the action crosses that line. I will experiment with both methods. Many thanks, Jim
Hey, thanks so much for the comment.
Nice images. Which lens you use?
A mix, but mostly the Canon EF 600mm f/4 IS II with and without 1.4x and 2x teleconverters.
@@whistlingwingsphotography The 600II is a great lens. Did you use the 100-500 at all?
@@Methodical2 Only for video on this tour.
@@whistlingwingsphotography Cool.
are you having any issue with the update 2.00 on r5 for not tracking birds in flight!!?? gone too shit
I think you need to clarify that you can’t have both of the examples of ‘recall shoot function’ that you showed in the video, active at the same time for the same button. I watched this back a few times and the way you show it, it makes out that you can have two sets of ‘recall shooting function’ on the same button, at the same time, and to my knowledge, this is not possible. Of course, you could have each of these ‘recall shooting function’ set up to different buttons, but NOT the same button as you demonstrate in the video
Yes...was a bit confused when it was intially set up for Spot...but then changed for the light/shade scenario...clearly only one setting can be used at any one time for a given button
Sorry, but I thought that was obvious. I mean, how can you have two set ups at the same time on one button. It just is not possible.
@@whistlingwingsphotography that was what I was saying but the layout of the video kinda leads you to think that you can have two. Obviously those who have an r5 or R3 and have spent a lot of time setting them up would realise this but just thought I’d lay this out because you never actually say, you can used this recall, or maybe this recall would suit you better. You kind of just suggest using both.