Not gonna lie, that happened to me too I thought her B support would be like her comforting you after your dad died, mutually licking each other’s wounds and all. But no, she just says I hate you and u don’t appreciate your dead dad
I’d feel bad too . Talking shit right after jeralt dies and then presumably seeing byleth die without ever apologizing despite him caring about her would probably make her feel really guilty .
Lmao imagine having hubert and bernie's c+ support after timeskip Thanks for carrying me back to my room when i passed out back then Bernadetta that was like 5 years ago wtf?
Firearm of Mutiny depends on your supports. If you have Leonie A rank with Shamir, the epilogue is slightly different. If I’m correct, it doesn’t mention anything about her drinking like Jeralt.
Leonie: So, let me clear the air. Leonie: _iknowjeraltfrombeforeyouandimhisbestapprenticesoyoudontcountandimbetterthanyouandiworkedhardethanyouandAAAAAAAAAAAA_ Byleth: Wait
This was me on c support Like "don't you know how grateful to have captain jeralt as a dad I don't think-" "Alright, I'm going to stop you there." (walks out and skips conversation) Yup. He's my dad Shut up
Okay so throughout Leonor’s B-Support I was like “this isn’t that mean” but then the final part had me like “I’m switching to classical and putting you in the front lines with no healer good luck”
@Weeb Tendency She's a really good unit that's right but her personality is the worst out of every character in the game. I prefer just recruiting felix or sylvain, those are monsters too and they are lovely :)
@Weeb Tendency yeah, try to intentionally kill her and it won't work as she'd kill her enemies every time lol. i mean, unless u unequipped her weapons or something...
Lol since she thinks she’s so much better than the protagonist. She probably didn’t even spend that much time with Jeralt. She just wants to brag about nothing.
@@perex23as95 I suppose the depends on what you think of personalities. Personally I'm not overly fond of Ingrid's. "Rules are this' and "I hate Duscur that" and "Sylvain stop hitting on people" oh my god I wanted her dead. So I played Black Eagles and ENOJYED shooting her out of the sky and then blasting her with my combat art just to underline how useless she is if she's not in my house.
She's got a cute Part 2 design and a good personality, but I'm afraid she'd accidentally say Jeralt's name in bed with Byleth. Like, she wouldn't mind calling either of them daddy.
Leonie: uh, uh, *JERALT* uh Byleth: Surprised Pikachu face Byleth: Taking his sword of the creator out of the scabbard, while *pulling* *out* his "sword of the creator" and putting the one without any meat in Leonie.
Goddamn who the hell thought it was good idea to lock Leonie's B support until the day right after Byleth's dad died? That conversation pissed me the hell off and gave up on ever S supporting her.
Why do you think the first thing she does in the A-support is apologize? She clearly regretted saying those things to Byleth, and how she'd treated him thus far. Even more so when he was supposedly dead for five whole years after the fall of Garreg Mach and that B-Support was the last thing she ever said to him.
@@dipshwhelp It really isn't tho. Especially if recruited at the time of jeralt's death. In the b support between byleth and leonie (available the day after Jeralt fucking dies mind you), she goes out of her way to say that she thinks byleth didn't care about Jeralt or what he did at all.THE DAY AFTER HIS DAD DIED. The whole thing is also clearly untrue, due to the fact that byleth was in clear mourning of his father
Part of me reeeeally wishes Jeralt had shut Leonie down on our behalf. Just straight up tell her to lay off his kid at some point before his passing. Either that or some more aggressive response dialogues.
Leonie already knows this herself. But these details aren’t just spoonfed to you. They don’t need too. Leonie doesn’t hate Byleth, she sees them as a rival because she wants to become a great mercenary herself.
As a unit, I’ll admit Leonie is very good. However, her obsession with this one-sided rivalry over who is Jeralt’s better student between Byleth and herself is very unhealthy, and her B-Support conversation could have honestly been better-timed than the first day of the next month after Jeralt was murdered right in front of Byleth. Honestly, the B-Rank kind of killed any real potential romance of the two, to the point that after the timeskip, I had her as Byleth’s “little sister”.
I hate how in other supports between her and other characters we get to see more to her, but with Byleth it's 100% about your dad all the way through. It'd be fine if it was just the C support, but having it be all of them is way too much.
@@-Cetus- Her supports with Alois are the same. Her obsession goes beyond the natural boundaries. Like if he saved her life or something then it would make more sense. But he just hung out in her village.
@@peachstar5789 Well that would be nice to figure out if she up front told you in the supports. Having to go hunting for her proper reason is a pain in the ass when she never shuts up about Jeralt.
Leonie looks really cute and has some great supports with other characters. Any time she doesn't mention Jeralt is usually decent, just wish they toned down on it.
@@lucasmendonca4887 Yeah, all her support conversations with Byleth are great minus her B support, I think that support conversation should have happen before Jeralt died.
It doesn’t help that in her academy outfit, if you manage to maneuver the camera in battle just right, her panties has Jeralt’s mercenary emblem on the crotch
tbf most proposal portraits look kinda weird compared to their dialogue portraits, with a few exceptions. As if they were made by different people (which probably were)
Whatever one thinks of the rest of this, one noteworthy detail is that she notes that Byleth canonically got their accepting nature and tendency to take people as they are from their dad. Like Jeralt seemed so glad to just HAVE a kid even if they're a tad unusual, and Byleth defs carried on that same attitude towards their students, especially the house leaders who, for differing reasons, were all in dire need of some ol' good acceptance.
It's kinda funny if you think about it, Jeralt grooming Leonie to be his kid's wife so that Rhea can't. "Leonie I'm counting on you to stop my kid from marrying that crazy bitch Rhea x_x" ~Jeralt's last thoughts
Not to justify Leonie's actions in the B-rank, but I saw her lashing out in that support as her being unable to deal with the grief of Jeralt's death herself. As a result, she's taking it out on you. Given that she's one of the oldest students I don't think her arc should have dealt with her being immature about something, but at least it's better than Hana's "I hate you because you were kidnapped as a baby!" support. Leonie also tries her hardest to be independent, so I think that she was just scared of seeming vulnerable in her grief. Once again, not a justification of her actions and the support could have been better, but I see where they were coming from by writing it this way.
I was hoping her scenes would improve, but meh. I really like her design, but the whole treating your own father's love and approval as a competition thing is ridiculous.
Yeah. In a game filled with fantastic support conversations, this one felt rather...average. Not awful, but far from great. I was considering S ranking her when I got around to my Golden Deer playthrough, but I definitely won't now.
I’ve seen a lot of Leonie’s supports, and honestly, these felt like some of her weakest ones (which really disappoints me considering that the concept of a man’s child interacting with his apprentice is interesting to me. She’s all about Jeralt with Byleth’s supports, but she’s able to stray away from that top pic in several other supports, or at least not get super sensitive)
I wonder if the devs realized that putting that B Support when they did would absolutely assassinate most players’ liking of Leonie. She would be a lot more popular if it weren’t for that
Leonie is voiced by Ratana (English version) who lent her voice to two video game characters: Lianshi in Dynasty Warriors and Ishtar in Fire Emblem Heroes.
Student: Um, I don't think expelling somebody involves liiterally throwing their corpse over the wall with a legendary sword. Byleth: Who's the teacher here?
She's really sweet in her supports with Ignatz, Bernie, Marianne, etc., and that combined with her post timeskip design is why I love her so much. It was enough to get me to forget the poorly-timed B-support.
I have problems with the fact that they do hand wave the fact that byleth never met Leonie prior to the story. Byleth is older than Leonie so logically they would have seen each other. What happened to prevent this meeting I want to know. They gave us details about Bernadetta and Yuri, but not this.
maybe they split for a time to take care of two jobs simultaneously?? personally I dont care much for small details, as it prevents you from enjoying the rest of the game.
I honestly really liked her character, she's capable, and tomboyish. Just my type, not to mention I always found her obsession with Jeralt kind of cute tbh. Like how a little kid would Idolize spiderman or smn. And the fact that she's capable but also fucking stupid is endearing to me. I married her in my 3rd playthrough, 1st time I married Bernie, 2nd I married Sylvain. Bernie always comes first
8:48 I am thou, thou art I... Thou has turned a vow into a blood oath. Thy bond shall become the wings of rebellion and break the yoke of thy heart. Thou has awakened to the ultimate secret of the Chariot, granting thee infinite power...
Am I the only one who gets annoyed by her? This girl is so obsessed with Jeralt she sees Byleth as competition for...what? For Jeralt to say he loves her more than his own kid? I didn't pay much attention to her at first but when she says something among the lines of "your dad's death is harder for me, you don't understand how hurt I am"...like girl get out
You see I wouldn't have cared if you grinded her support convos and made it to B before his death and i would have been fine, she's just growing through this student sibling type shit and is getting mad and jealous, it's common, but no they specifically locked it untill after his death to make sure you actually felt those words when she told you off, that's why I didn't go for her, also it's alright that she's talking about good old dad with us as we shared the same teacher but she comes off as obsessed sometimes...lol
Our numbers are growing, my friend, now that I’m here there’s at least 6, but likely more due to Three Hopes and Heroes doing her justice in the past year
God they did this character dirty. Her whole thing with being in student debt I feel was enough, then they pull a Camilla and Faye and make her obsessed with Jeralt and it really bogs down her character. Doesn’t help with the extremely bad timing on her Byleth B support and you such an awkward character in such a colorful cast of wonderful Deers.
I went into my golden deer playthrough intending on Leonie but I ended up recruiting and romancing Bernadetta. So I had to come here to see what I missed
A lot of me always wonders how much of this is actually Leonie versus perhaps poor translation/interpretation of her Japanese dialogue because when she isn't talking about Jeralt, Leonie is actually a really cool character.
Look Leonie is a good unit but I've never recruited her in either Azure Moon, Crimson Flower or Silver Snow because her Jeralt obsession is just so annoying
I'll be frank here. I didn't completely despise Leonie because of her B Rank. But the way they handled her B Rank was in terrible taste and could've been executed better. Instead of having that conversation locked out until AFTER Jeralt dies. Just do the conversation BEFORE he dies. And just say: "Oh sorry, you missed your chance to deepen this bond." if you unlock it after he dies. That way, people wouldn't have been AS pissed at her. Especially when she was much more understanding towards Byleth during the monastery exploration that very chapter. The way they do it here, they just make Leonie look like an uncaring bitch, especially since Byleth had the worst day of his life when Jeralt died and he spends nearly the entire month of January absolutely depressed. But I get why they do it here. They wanted to make a Peter Parker moment with his Uncle Ben. Uncle Ben was trying to tell Peter that although yes, you do have superpowers, you need to use them responsibly. But Peter, who only cared about using his newfound powers for personal gain, didn't listen and snapped at him. Then his Uncle Ben died before he could apologize for being an asshole. Which brings me to the A Rank in which Leonie had been carrying extreme guilt for five whole years, when Byleth was presumed dead, and the last thing she said to him was really mean, and didn't take his feelings into account. She'd been absolutely tortured by the fact if she was just nicer to him or at least knew what he was going through, it likely wouldn't have hurt that much. My point being: everybody says and does things they regret, but sometimes you don't realize how the things you say and do affects you or the people around you until it's too late.
Love her design and was planning to S rank her but after hearing Jeralt's name come out her mouth hundreds of times and her B support I decided to give her the old yeller treatment.....
She's actually pretty sweet outside of that one glaring personality fault. But some people will never let her live it down. And she looks really off in that head on image, when you can't see her nose. Huh. All of that could also describe Edelgard.
Well, it's a pretty rotten thing to do to kick someone down when their father has just died. I'd have told her to fuck off and never talk to me again after that.
After seeing supports with other characters, I can say that Leonie's actually a really nice person and treats everyone fairly. I feel bad for saying this bc she really isn't that bad of a character and apologizes for her hostility towards you, but I just can't bring myself to like her because of how poorly executed her supports are with your character. I love the "rivals/enemies to lovers" trope, but it just doesn't feel like their relationships actually develops to lovers? Like idk it feels more platonic if anything :/
_*Byleth and Leonie reached Support B._ *Byleth:* Wow, thank you Leonie for reminding me of the worst pain I've ever had in my life. Where it doesn't matter if I went back in time or restarted the save game, my father suffered from the curse of the Fire Emblem Parents. Now shut up and get on the front line. Don't worry, I have the power to turn back time, so I'll enjoy, I mean I'll analyze all the deaths you're going to have.🖕
Leonie... I am not heartbroken that there is no F!Byleth romance because honestly I kinda only watched maybe 2 actual minutes of this because I hate her grating obsession with Jeralt(gonna get mad at me for not loving my dad?? the day after he dies no less? Wow)
“I’m going to surpass you” *peaks at tier 3 as a paladin* *probably would have progressed farther if she didn’t spend 80% of the game sucking off Jeralt*
Damn.. i glad watch this vid. She not romantic at all.. its like " I do this to keep my promise for Capt Jeralt". Duh.. And know im trouble for choosing Hilda and Mariane. One happy sassy girl and one so sweet shy. 🤔🤔
goddamn a+ she might get a ton of slack for jeralt this/jeralt that but during her C support the main takeaway that i got was the obvious subversion of her own expectations byleth not really feeding into the competitive nature is gold imo, going off of byleth's own history and generally the way jeralt talked to him about focusing on the battle more than likely fed into the way he doesn't really express emotions normally, and that's just from the prologue and part 1 info about byleth when they were a kiddo. not getting riled up or freaked out in the middle of combat is more than likely pretty useful since not being able to keep your cool would more than likely be bad, especially on a battlefield the contrast of leonie being excited for a small change in village life that, overall is pretty huge for her since the bandits were an issue for them that got dealt with effectively nailed jeralt down as a hero to her, so for her, seeing byleth always basically having a blank look on his face, even when her hero is speaking to him is a definite spark of anger, and i love that; jeralt gave her the means to make a change with her life and her being at garreg mach definitely shows she put in the effort to get there, so its obvious that it meant a lot to her she's basically looking at someone who had what she wanted, and "doesn't" appreciate it, the fact she doesn't understand that for byleth that was just every day life makes it better for me, she doesn't think they appreciate someone who basically helped her get the reigns to her own life in her hands, but on the flipside the person in question is just used to all of that and before their life at the monastery starts can't even properly express emotions people might see as normal the B support steps more towards why she admires him, and around the point she starts talking about advice is when her feelings get riled up again because she's staring at the person who she believes had what she wanted, it's clear it isn't just ''you were around him more so i hate you'' considering everything with alois, but it feels more like a jarring contrast to her from my point of view because byleth can't really express emotions properly, so when she starts blowing up about byleth not appreciating him at all its easy to forget that they don't exactly know about their situation, but its also easy to forget that leonie probably had a normal village life before this, and if anything that she's basically the "Villager" unit from a story perspective Normal life, unable to really stand up against the threat of bandits making life harder, the "Lord" or in this case Jeralt comes along, and feeds them a level up through basic knowledge, but instead of taking them along now, they just leave, that devotion sticks though and the unit continues to grow while probably still hearing about what the person/people who gave them a chance to change is doing for the people who probably just watched the supports w/o playing through the storylines with the characters, talking to them each month and hearing the stuff they have to say about the events currently going on definitely feeds more into the character than the supports can alone, she was basically breaking down after jer-bear got shanked so her having a special battle quote for monica was lit post timeskip, its easy to see that with actual experience she's managed to retain her enthusiasm but is definitely a lot more humble and experienced about things, she still remembers blowing up on byleth, which might seem odd but, taking into consideration that if you get that B support before jeralt dies, talk to her afterwards, and then everything with the timeskip happens, noone really saw or heard from byleth after that, they might've 'made up' because of situations and time afterwards, but considering her dedication to jeralt and what he told her just a bit before she died, it probably hit hard because most of everything fell apart after that and one of the last 'big' conversations she had with her mentors son was her blowing up on him and talking about how they don't appreciate them only for them to lose him directly afterwards to her, byleth had jeralt their whole life, so even if they didn't 'seem' to appreciate him at all, it still would've made sense that they just lost their parent, and for someone who can't normally express emotions, it probably didn't slip by that byleth was actually crying after jeralt died, which probably kicked her in the gut again i love this character and she's the battlewife each time because of that grand ol' arc of ''I'm gonna prove to myself that I'm better than this person'' to ''I'm going to protect this person to honor the promise of the person who gave me the method to protect myself'' to ''I want to be close to this person'' that doesn't change the fact its anime as all hell but *fuck* if it doesn't feel natural to me that she'd be trying to one up byleth constantly on the battlefield and then see that being better than somebody close to the person who means the most to you at the time isn't what matters, i just think its a shame when people take the supports as the only parts of the character instead of keeping up with the reasons in lore why they might act a certain way; that said i dont really vibe with edelgard despite understanding why she does what she does, just something about her feels off, i know she's willing to risk a lot for her dreams but the whole burnin' bernie gig and issues leading back to crests thing make it hard for me to like her thanks for coming to my ted talk
I just hate how she tries to act superior over Byleth saying that she’s Jeralt’s greatest apprentice. Byleth grew up with Jeralt over the 20 years, not just being his apprentice but also being a son/daughter. Leonie was with the guy for like what, a couple months or something. Fuck, I think even Alois spent more time with Jeralt lol. She has a sweet side though, like her support with Marianne. She obviously cares about her friends but with Byleth, it just makes it seem all she wants to do is one up him/her.
I don't like Leonie she is just so pretentious, and her thinking she is better than Byleth is hilarious. I mean c'mon can Leonie do both Za Warudo & Bites Za Dusto vicariously through a weed loli goddess I don't think so. Not to mention that female Byleth is much more attractive than her so to me Leonie just feels sadly inadequate.
Guys she’s not that bad , and frankly I like seeing this side of her , she reminds me of characters like yukair from persona but wait people even hate her
I honestly liked Leonie. She seemed a bit too tomboyish to romance, but I loved her design post-timeskip. But that wasn’t nearly enough to choose her over Marianne.
tfw Leonie's B support came literally the day after your dad died
bruh
LMAO me too.
Same.
I choose to believe someone in development was being an idiot.
Not gonna lie, that happened to me too
I thought her B support would be like her comforting you after your dad died, mutually licking each other’s wounds and all.
But no, she just says I hate you and u don’t appreciate your dead dad
"I feel terrible about the last time we spoke."
"It's been five years and you're still hung up about it?"
That's how women are sometimes
Flygoniaks I mean he was presumed dead for those five years so she probably felt a bit of regret
If the last thing you ever said to someone is how they're ungrateful before they "died" for five years, you'd probably feel pretty bad about it.
She’s still annoying to me
I’d feel bad too . Talking shit right after jeralt dies and then presumably seeing byleth die without ever apologizing despite him caring about her would probably make her feel really guilty .
The whole time I spoke to Leonie I was just screaming “He is my dad! Back off”
She was out of line
CatherineJ :
SINGLE and available dad
Lin Bin Who is at least over 100 years old.
Your Conscience : Age is but a number
@@stevenliang3213 Jail is just a room
Leonie: I feel terrible about the last time we spoke.
Byleth: Woman that was 5 years ago.
Lmao imagine having hubert and bernie's c+ support after timeskip
Thanks for carrying me back to my room when i passed out back then
Bernadetta that was like 5 years ago wtf?
To be fair...Byleth was thought to be dead for said 5 years, so
Yeah and it was the last thing she said to him before he died for five years
She should feel bad smh, telling her teacher about how ungrateful he is for his dad the day after he dies, and then not apologizing.
Exactly
Academy phase: "Imma fight like Jeralt!"
War phase: "Imma look like Jeralt!"
Epilogue: "Imma drink like Jeralt!"
Firearm of Mutiny depends on your supports. If you have Leonie A rank with Shamir, the epilogue is slightly different. If I’m correct, it doesn’t mention anything about her drinking like Jeralt.
HyperStar Gaming really?
If you don't recruit Leonie "Imma die like Jeralt!"
@@MotherDaniellol I can make that happen
1:48
Leonie : So don't blink, you might miss it -- *leaves*
Byleth : *blinks*
I like to think after that she just steamed for a bit then stormed off. Byleth then proceeds to shrug his shoulders and go get some dinner.
Byleth: *Blinks*
Game:It's darkness time.
notKamui he did it on porpuse
“I still feel like an idiot.”
Glad we finally agree on something
@@lucasmendonca4887 Lol how we both think she’s an idiot, and how much of an idiot we are for romancing her.
Leonie: So, let me clear the air.
Leonie: _iknowjeraltfrombeforeyouandimhisbestapprenticesoyoudontcountandimbetterthanyouandiworkedhardethanyouandAAAAAAAAAAAA_
Byleth: Wait
I don't know why but this is really funny XD
Don't you mean
Byleth: ...
I actually want that as a legit dialogue lol
This was me on c support
Like "don't you know how grateful to have captain jeralt as a dad I don't think-"
"Alright, I'm going to stop you there."
(walks out and skips conversation)
Yup.
He's my dad
Shut up
Okay so throughout Leonor’s B-Support I was like “this isn’t that mean” but then the final part had me like “I’m switching to classical and putting you in the front lines with no healer good luck”
@Weeb Tendency She's a really good unit that's right but her personality is the worst out of every character in the game. I prefer just recruiting felix or sylvain, those are monsters too and they are lovely :)
@Weeb Tendency yeah, try to intentionally kill her and it won't work as she'd kill her enemies every time lol. i mean, unless u unequipped her weapons or something...
@@maibignutt6434 I definitely didnt do that and recruit sylvain in her place...
Lol since she thinks she’s so much better than the protagonist. She probably didn’t even spend that much time with Jeralt. She just wants to brag about nothing.
@@perex23as95 I suppose the depends on what you think of personalities. Personally I'm not overly fond of Ingrid's. "Rules are this' and "I hate Duscur that" and "Sylvain stop hitting on people" oh my god I wanted her dead. So I played Black Eagles and ENOJYED shooting her out of the sky and then blasting her with my combat art just to underline how useless she is if she's not in my house.
Leonie leveled up the hardest with the timeskip, damn
Especially Annette
Leonie was already perfect, pre and post timeskip.
@@ThatTCG Perfect like a deathly fart going into the fan for all to smell.
Hilda has 2 things to say about that
I prefer Lysithea
*Yells out Jeralts name in bed*
NNNNOOOOOOOOO
MEME REVIEW
NIGHTMARE.
WTF🤣 why is that such a vivid image to me!
You made me snort
She's got a cute Part 2 design and a good personality, but I'm afraid she'd accidentally say Jeralt's name in bed with Byleth. Like, she wouldn't mind calling either of them daddy.
i'm dead too true
I was literally thinking that scenerio earlier lmao
Oh god that's a nightmarish thought...
Leonie: uh, uh, *JERALT* uh
Byleth: Surprised Pikachu face
Byleth: Taking his sword of the creator out of the scabbard, while *pulling* *out* his "sword of the creator" and putting the one without any meat in Leonie.
Lmfao these comments
I wish she isn't so obsessed with Jeralt all the time, it feels unhealthy lol
@kemuael stolen comment.
@@fred5594 smh how you go stealing Fred's name.
Plot twist: You have a crush on her
Goddamn who the hell thought it was good idea to lock Leonie's B support until the day right after Byleth's dad died? That conversation pissed me the hell off and gave up on ever S supporting her.
Why do you think the first thing she does in the A-support is apologize? She clearly regretted saying those things to Byleth, and how she'd treated him thus far. Even more so when he was supposedly dead for five whole years after the fall of Garreg Mach and that B-Support was the last thing she ever said to him.
@@Spiralpaladin tbf most ppl would probably give up on her after the b tier and not get to that point
dgcfgv vgb that’s why you see it out to the end no support ever ends at B for the main character 😂
She gone from "I'M YOUR DAD STUDENT AND I'LL SURPASS YOU!" to "PLEASE HIRE ME FOREVER SO I CAN ALWAYS BE NEAR YOU!" quick.
5 years isn't quick...
Dude, she had 5 years of thinking byleth was dead, and that the B rank was the last conversation they would ever had. *5 Years of regret*
Yeah, no... that B-Support was a deal-breaker.
Especially if it happens LITERALLY THE DAY AFTER the worst day in Byleth's life. XD
I think it's warranted. All she did was get frustrated with Byleth acting like a cardboard cutout all this time.
@@dipshwhelp It really isn't tho. Especially if recruited at the time of jeralt's death. In the b support between byleth and leonie (available the day after Jeralt fucking dies mind you), she goes out of her way to say that she thinks byleth didn't care about Jeralt or what he did at all.THE DAY AFTER HIS DAD DIED. The whole thing is also clearly untrue, due to the fact that byleth was in clear mourning of his father
What weak spined boys here
Part of me reeeeally wishes Jeralt had shut Leonie down on our behalf. Just straight up tell her to lay off his kid at some point before his passing. Either that or some more aggressive response dialogues.
Green I agree. I wish he said that his child would always be better than her, and that he’d never love her more than his child.
Leonie already knows this herself. But these details aren’t just spoonfed to you. They don’t need too. Leonie doesn’t hate Byleth, she sees them as a rival because she wants to become a great mercenary herself.
@@sambull2621 She sure acts like she hates Byleth half the time.
@@ElvenRaptor not outside the supports really, and hate is a strong word. at the very worst she’s just being jealous.
@@gabbycraft7035how would you feel if someone said that to you
As a unit, I’ll admit Leonie is very good. However, her obsession with this one-sided rivalry over who is Jeralt’s better student between Byleth and herself is very unhealthy, and her B-Support conversation could have honestly been better-timed than the first day of the next month after Jeralt was murdered right in front of Byleth. Honestly, the B-Rank kind of killed any real potential romance of the two, to the point that after the timeskip, I had her as Byleth’s “little sister”.
Thats what i always say... if she was Byleth's sibling. Her character would make more sense.
I hate how in other supports between her and other characters we get to see more to her, but with Byleth it's 100% about your dad all the way through. It'd be fine if it was just the C support, but having it be all of them is way too much.
@@-Cetus- Her supports with Alois are the same. Her obsession goes beyond the natural boundaries. Like if he saved her life or something then it would make more sense. But he just hung out in her village.
@@loserinasuit7880 Jeralt didn't just 'hang' in her village he *saved* her village including her which means he saved her life
@@peachstar5789 Well that would be nice to figure out if she up front told you in the supports. Having to go hunting for her proper reason is a pain in the ass when she never shuts up about Jeralt.
Leonie looks really cute and has some great supports with other characters. Any time she doesn't mention Jeralt is usually decent, just wish they toned down on it.
Her B Support aside, I actually enjoyed her Support Conversations with Byleth.
@@lucasmendonca4887 Yeah, all her support conversations with Byleth are great minus her B support, I think that support conversation should have happen before Jeralt died.
New drinking game:
Take a shot everytime Leonie mentions Jeralt
My blood is now perfectly distilled alcohol.
*wakes* *up* *in* *the* *ER*
Thats suicide
Am I the only one that’s kinda weirded out by how much her time skip clothes looks like jeralts
oh no...
It doesn’t help that in her academy outfit, if you manage to maneuver the camera in battle just right, her panties has Jeralt’s mercenary emblem on the crotch
@@millrose6250 WAIT WTH HOW
@@millrose6250 Wait wait wait WAIT-
@@millrose6250 there's NO way
You're just kidding around...right?
*Looks at proposal portrait*
AYE YO GIRL WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR NOSE!?
And her arms.
Every romance poster I saw has them missing a nose
RantingSpidermanTV he got that krillin disease
@@Hiesan025 what about Felix?
tbf most proposal portraits look kinda weird compared to their dialogue portraits, with a few exceptions. As if they were made by different people (which probably were)
Leonie: *I want Jeralt's babies.* Also I'm better than you.
Byleth: *You what?*
In Awakening I romanced Panne
In Fates I romanced Rinka
And Leonie is my favourite Three Houses character
I’m sensing a pattern
There's no shame in being attracted to women who are superior to men. That just mean you acknowledge what should never have been overdue.
Am part saiyan so I can tell you all that stronger women interest me more than weak ones...
FalconPunch827 Rinka ain’t buff compared to Sakura
tomboy love is fine, like she wont bitch about your video games or drinking she joins in that shit.
@FalconPunch827 leonie is one of the smaller female characters in the game tho
She only wants you for your dad Byleth
But wait... He's dead!
Leonie wanted Jeralt's genes in her so bad that going for Byleth was the only option
Could you technically call that a daddy kink?
"Well, gee, if you love my father so much, why don't you just marry him?"
Jeralt dies
"Actually, please don't."
She obsesses over captain jeralt because she doesn't have a nose.
Whatever one thinks of the rest of this, one noteworthy detail is that she notes that Byleth canonically got their accepting nature and tendency to take people as they are from their dad.
Like Jeralt seemed so glad to just HAVE a kid even if they're a tad unusual, and Byleth defs carried on that same attitude towards their students, especially the house leaders who, for differing reasons, were all in dire need of some ol' good acceptance.
I could go on and on about how I feel about Leonie, but I'll just leave this here.
*Jeralt totally picked her out to be your wife*
It's kinda funny if you think about it, Jeralt grooming Leonie to be his kid's wife so that Rhea can't.
"Leonie I'm counting on you to stop my kid from marrying that crazy bitch Rhea x_x"
~Jeralt's last thoughts
Lmao, now I'm just imagining Jeralt's soul looking down from heaven rubbing his palms going like:
"Hehe, yeah boi."
Jeralt of Rivia?
@@redreaver5598 and he didn't even know about that part 2 *c h e s t*
@@td984 That is the funniest thing I've heard recently.
Not to justify Leonie's actions in the B-rank, but I saw her lashing out in that support as her being unable to deal with the grief of Jeralt's death herself. As a result, she's taking it out on you. Given that she's one of the oldest students I don't think her arc should have dealt with her being immature about something, but at least it's better than Hana's "I hate you because you were kidnapped as a baby!" support.
Leonie also tries her hardest to be independent, so I think that she was just scared of seeming vulnerable in her grief. Once again, not a justification of her actions and the support could have been better, but I see where they were coming from by writing it this way.
And with Hana it’s that same support until S-rank. It’s like “I hate you, I hate you, I still hate you, I love you.”
I was hoping her scenes would improve, but meh. I really like her design, but the whole treating your own father's love and approval as a competition thing is ridiculous.
Yeah. In a game filled with fantastic support conversations, this one felt rather...average. Not awful, but far from great. I was considering S ranking her when I got around to my Golden Deer playthrough, but I definitely won't now.
I’ve seen a lot of Leonie’s supports, and honestly, these felt like some of her weakest ones (which really disappoints me considering that the concept of a man’s child interacting with his apprentice is interesting to me. She’s all about Jeralt with Byleth’s supports, but she’s able to stray away from that top pic in several other supports, or at least not get super sensitive)
Blame Byleth for being an emotional brick
I wonder if the devs realized that putting that B Support when they did would absolutely assassinate most players’ liking of Leonie. She would be a lot more popular if it weren’t for that
Ye, I hate this choice of theirs to do that :/
Leonie is voiced by Ratana (English version) who lent her voice to two video game characters: Lianshi in Dynasty Warriors and Ishtar in Fire Emblem Heroes.
She's arguably one of the best voice in that hot mess Dynasty Warriors 9, and it clearly show that in FE3H she's excellent. DW9 was a directing mess.
Yeah but I think this game shows that she can be a great actress when given a better script and voice direction.
*B Support happens right after Jeralt’s death*
Rhea:Hey where’s Leonie?
Byleth:Well...since I’m a teacher, I thought I could you know..expel her.
Student: Um, I don't think expelling somebody involves liiterally throwing their corpse over the wall with a legendary sword.
Byleth: Who's the teacher here?
She's really sweet in her supports with Ignatz, Bernie, Marianne, etc., and that combined with her post timeskip design is why I love her so much. It was enough to get me to forget the poorly-timed B-support.
Leonie: Don't blink or I'll surpass in no time.
Byleth at 1:53: *blinks*
I have problems with the fact that they do hand wave the fact that byleth never met Leonie prior to the story. Byleth is older than Leonie so logically they would have seen each other. What happened to prevent this meeting I want to know. They gave us details about Bernadetta and Yuri, but not this.
maybe they split for a time to take care of two jobs simultaneously?? personally I dont care much for small details, as it prevents you from enjoying the rest of the game.
damn they could've made her a childhood friend, or just mention the fact that they had met before. That would've been so cool honestly
I honestly really liked her character, she's capable, and tomboyish. Just my type, not to mention I always found her obsession with Jeralt kind of cute tbh.
Like how a little kid would Idolize spiderman or smn. And the fact that she's capable but also fucking stupid is endearing to me.
I married her in my 3rd playthrough, 1st time I married Bernie, 2nd I married Sylvain.
Bernie always comes first
8:48
I am thou, thou art I...
Thou has turned a vow into a blood oath.
Thy bond shall become the wings of rebellion and break the yoke of thy heart.
Thou has awakened to the ultimate secret of the Chariot, granting thee infinite power...
I got it now ....
....I'm afraid this is lost on me.
@@sk8rmaster1669 chie from persona 4
@@sk8rmaster1669 persona 5 or 4
@@seantobin3842 4
Am I the only one who gets annoyed by her? This girl is so obsessed with Jeralt she sees Byleth as competition for...what? For Jeralt to say he loves her more than his own kid? I didn't pay much attention to her at first but when she says something among the lines of "your dad's death is harder for me, you don't understand how hurt I am"...like girl get out
Nope, she annoys me too
She annoys everyone
She annoy me to , to the point that I want to strip all of her weapon and let the enemy beat her to death in classic mode
i really like how she changed both inside and out after the timeskip. just wish they toned down the jeralt worship even more
Man after the 5 years
Leonie sure did grow huge
Heart
B support aged so well now that in Three Hopes Jeralt reveals he doesn't even remember her being an apprentice and never cared about her.
And she's still as annoying as ever in that game too. -_-;
Have you played the rest of the game yet? He's actually very supportive in most of their dialogue, especially their support chain.
4:59 Anyone watching in 2023 in which Fire emblem Engage is a thing
in which Byleth is one of the Emblems.
Brings a whole new meaning to that phrase
Even after the surprise of an engagement ring, shes still talking about jeralt. Makes me glad that I went with the best girl, bernadetta.
That's the weirdest spelling of Petra I've ever seen
Y'all spelling Mercedes incorrectly
You misspelled Marianne Von Edmund.
I don't think that's how you spell Ferdinand Von Aegir
@@savageboi8619 ferdinand best girl
4:59 EMBLEM ENGAGE BONDS OF FIRE CONNECT US LOVE PROVIDES PROTECT US
Leonie's B-suppirt happens
Byleth: *_yeah I'm putting the game on classic, no reason really_*
4:58 Wow we haven't reached S rank and you're already- oh that's what you meant
9:07 Leonie is so beautiful and determined.
You really shouldn't pick a fight with the teacher. I could have you expelled you know.
It's a good thing Jeralt died, otherwise she might end up suggesting a spit-roast situation.
Well if the dead body isn't too decayed...
The Legacy of Gaming YAMERO
Oh no.
oh no
Oh YYYYEEEEAAAAAAH
Giggity
You see I wouldn't have cared if you grinded her support convos and made it to B before his death and i would have been fine, she's just growing through this student sibling type shit and is getting mad and jealous, it's common, but no they specifically locked it untill after his death to make sure you actually felt those words when she told you off, that's why I didn't go for her, also it's alright that she's talking about good old dad with us as we shared the same teacher but she comes off as obsessed sometimes...lol
Leonie: "Of course I'll marry you! I'm so excited, I get to have children indirectly with Jeralt!"
🤣🤣 This shits hillarious!
Leonie liker here in the comments, it's true we exist, all five of us
Our numbers are growing, my friend, now that I’m here there’s at least 6, but likely more due to Three Hopes and Heroes doing her justice in the past year
God they did this character dirty. Her whole thing with being in student debt I feel was enough, then they pull a Camilla and Faye and make her obsessed with Jeralt and it really bogs down her character. Doesn’t help with the extremely bad timing on her Byleth B support and you such an awkward character in such a colorful cast of wonderful Deers.
Why you people always bring her admiration towards jeralt as something sexual/romantic?
She gets way too much hate. Like really. She has more supports than this.
I went into my golden deer playthrough intending on Leonie but I ended up recruiting and romancing Bernadetta. So I had to come here to see what I missed
Kevin Thompson nice
I want to romance either Bernie or Leonie but ended up romance Mercedes 😂
You didn't miss anything as you can see. The only s support that I will never do is the one from this bitch
A lot of me always wonders how much of this is actually Leonie versus perhaps poor translation/interpretation of her Japanese dialogue because when she isn't talking about Jeralt, Leonie is actually a really cool character.
Ok but this guy had to beat the entire game every time to make these videos. HOW DO YOU DO THIS
*One night in their chambers
Byleth: Oh oh
Leonie: Yah🥰Yah🥰Yah...JERALT!!!😍
Byleth: 😟
Look Leonie is a good unit but I've never recruited her in either Azure Moon, Crimson Flower or Silver Snow because her Jeralt obsession is just so annoying
I'll be frank here. I didn't completely despise Leonie because of her B Rank. But the way they handled her B Rank was in terrible taste and could've been executed better. Instead of having that conversation locked out until AFTER Jeralt dies. Just do the conversation BEFORE he dies. And just say: "Oh sorry, you missed your chance to deepen this bond." if you unlock it after he dies. That way, people wouldn't have been AS pissed at her. Especially when she was much more understanding towards Byleth during the monastery exploration that very chapter. The way they do it here, they just make Leonie look like an uncaring bitch, especially since Byleth had the worst day of his life when Jeralt died and he spends nearly the entire month of January absolutely depressed.
But I get why they do it here. They wanted to make a Peter Parker moment with his Uncle Ben. Uncle Ben was trying to tell Peter that although yes, you do have superpowers, you need to use them responsibly. But Peter, who only cared about using his newfound powers for personal gain, didn't listen and snapped at him. Then his Uncle Ben died before he could apologize for being an asshole.
Which brings me to the A Rank in which Leonie had been carrying extreme guilt for five whole years, when Byleth was presumed dead, and the last thing she said to him was really mean, and didn't take his feelings into account. She'd been absolutely tortured by the fact if she was just nicer to him or at least knew what he was going through, it likely wouldn't have hurt that much. My point being: everybody says and does things they regret, but sometimes you don't realize how the things you say and do affects you or the people around you until it's too late.
There are some things you just don't do. Kicking someone down when their parent has just died is one of those things.
Love her design and was planning to S rank her but after hearing Jeralt's name come out her mouth hundreds of times and her B support I decided to give her the old yeller treatment.....
What that exactly, you let an archer kill her or something?
She's actually pretty sweet outside of that one glaring personality fault. But some people will never let her live it down. And she looks really off in that head on image, when you can't see her nose.
Huh. All of that could also describe Edelgard.
Well, it's a pretty rotten thing to do to kick someone down when their father has just died. I'd have told her to fuck off and never talk to me again after that.
Leonie is the Chie-San of Three Houses and thereby clearly the best Waifu by default.
Man of culture I see
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought this
I have found my people.
Love him or Hate him, this man is spittin straight facts.
Finally all of us can once again come together as a Chie collective. We are the highest tier of culture. Chie/Leonie are best girl.
After seeing supports with other characters, I can say that Leonie's actually a really nice person and treats everyone fairly. I feel bad for saying this bc she really isn't that bad of a character and apologizes for her hostility towards you, but I just can't bring myself to like her because of how poorly executed her supports are with your character. I love the "rivals/enemies to lovers" trope, but it just doesn't feel like their relationships actually develops to lovers? Like idk it feels more platonic if anything :/
_*Byleth and Leonie reached Support B._
*Byleth:* Wow, thank you Leonie for reminding me of the worst pain I've ever had in my life. Where it doesn't matter if I went back in time or restarted the save game, my father suffered from the curse of the Fire Emblem Parents.
Now shut up and get on the front line. Don't worry, I have the power to turn back time, so I'll enjoy, I mean I'll analyze all the deaths you're going to have.🖕
Golden Deer has S-tier girls and then there's her.
SHE’S SS TIER
They probably have some really fierce… “workouts”.
Leonie: *yaps on and on about Captain Jeralt*
Byleth: "Jeralt likes you, Leonie, L I K E S."
Leonie: “I know I’m not exactly conventional”
Me: shut up bitch, you’re adorable
"Bitch I had to fight to life and death ever since I remember! Of course you can't understand the bond between us!"
0:18 Leonie in Act 1 - Haos Contestir Vol 2. *"New kid's takes a Stand Friday Manhattan Arc."*
OH YES
She may have been like a daughter to my father but we are NOT BLOOD RELATED so it’s okay
Rodri G no Chromo
When I finally romance Leonie, I'm gonna be playing some Isley Brothers in celebration!!! MACK DADDY BLYETH! XD
My first (and canonical) Three Houses S support! Leonie is awesome!
Leonie... I am not heartbroken that there is no F!Byleth romance because honestly I kinda only watched maybe 2 actual minutes of this because I hate her grating obsession with Jeralt(gonna get mad at me for not loving my dad?? the day after he dies no less? Wow)
You’ll like her more if you watch the full thing, she gets better I promise
No Leonie, you can't be my stepmother!
The s support is when she found out Byleth is the closest thing to get into geralts pants
Byleth: "I love you Leonie."
Leonie: "And I love you Jeralt."
Byleth: "What?"
Leonie: "What?"
1 joke
“I’m going to surpass you”
*peaks at tier 3 as a paladin*
*probably would have progressed farther if she didn’t spend 80% of the game sucking off Jeralt*
Leonie Apologizes for being rude to Byleth and is immediately rude again, lol I love Leonie,, she was the first girl I married in the game
0:39 That's definitely a euphemism
Leonie: Well you aren't Jeralt but you are his kid so close enough.
Leonie is bsing in S-support, she just wants to be Jeralt's stepdaughter
Daughter in law.
It’s a shame because that B support could’ve been a nice scene of them grieving Jeralt together but nope
Damn.. i glad watch this vid. She not romantic at all.. its like " I do this to keep my promise for Capt Jeralt". Duh.. And know im trouble for choosing Hilda and Mariane. One happy sassy girl and one so sweet shy. 🤔🤔
Bro not Lysithea? Damn
@@adas2051 sorry i look lysithea as my own younger sister. Don't worry Lysithea is in my rescue list.
goddamn a+
she might get a ton of slack for jeralt this/jeralt that but
during her C support the main takeaway that i got was the obvious subversion of her own expectations
byleth not really feeding into the competitive nature is gold imo, going off of byleth's own history and generally the way jeralt talked to him about focusing on the battle more than likely fed into the way he doesn't really express emotions normally, and that's just from the prologue and part 1 info about byleth when they were a kiddo. not getting riled up or freaked out in the middle of combat is more than likely pretty useful since not being able to keep your cool would more than likely be bad, especially on a battlefield
the contrast of leonie being excited for a small change in village life that, overall is pretty huge for her since the bandits were an issue for them that got dealt with effectively nailed jeralt down as a hero to her, so for her, seeing byleth always basically having a blank look on his face, even when her hero is speaking to him is a definite spark of anger, and i love that; jeralt gave her the means to make a change with her life and her being at garreg mach definitely shows she put in the effort to get there, so its obvious that it meant a lot to her
she's basically looking at someone who had what she wanted, and "doesn't" appreciate it, the fact she doesn't understand that for byleth that was just every day life makes it better for me, she doesn't think they appreciate someone who basically helped her get the reigns to her own life in her hands, but on the flipside the person in question is just used to all of that and before their life at the monastery starts can't even properly express emotions people might see as normal
the B support steps more towards why she admires him, and around the point she starts talking about advice is when her feelings get riled up again because she's staring at the person who she believes had what she wanted, it's clear it isn't just ''you were around him more so i hate you'' considering everything with alois, but it feels more like a jarring contrast to her from my point of view because byleth can't really express emotions properly, so when she starts blowing up about byleth not appreciating him at all its easy to forget that they don't exactly know about their situation, but its also easy to forget that leonie probably had a normal village life before this, and if anything that she's basically the "Villager" unit from a story perspective
Normal life, unable to really stand up against the threat of bandits making life harder, the "Lord" or in this case Jeralt comes along, and feeds them a level up through basic knowledge, but instead of taking them along now, they just leave, that devotion sticks though and the unit continues to grow while probably still hearing about what the person/people who gave them a chance to change is doing
for the people who probably just watched the supports w/o playing through the storylines with the characters, talking to them each month and hearing the stuff they have to say about the events currently going on definitely feeds more into the character than the supports can alone, she was basically breaking down after jer-bear got shanked so her having a special battle quote for monica was lit
post timeskip, its easy to see that with actual experience she's managed to retain her enthusiasm but is definitely a lot more humble and experienced about things, she still remembers blowing up on byleth, which might seem odd but, taking into consideration that if you get that B support before jeralt dies, talk to her afterwards, and then everything with the timeskip happens, noone really saw or heard from byleth after that, they might've 'made up' because of situations and time afterwards, but considering her dedication to jeralt and what he told her just a bit before she died, it probably hit hard because most of everything fell apart after that and one of the last 'big' conversations she had with her mentors son was her blowing up on him and talking about how they don't appreciate them only for them to lose him directly afterwards
to her, byleth had jeralt their whole life, so even if they didn't 'seem' to appreciate him at all, it still would've made sense that they just lost their parent, and for someone who can't normally express emotions, it probably didn't slip by that byleth was actually crying after jeralt died, which probably kicked her in the gut again
i love this character and she's the battlewife each time because of that grand ol' arc of ''I'm gonna prove to myself that I'm better than this person'' to ''I'm going to protect this person to honor the promise of the person who gave me the method to protect myself'' to ''I want to be close to this person'' that doesn't change the fact its anime as all hell but *fuck* if it doesn't feel natural to me that she'd be trying to one up byleth constantly on the battlefield and then see that being better than somebody close to the person who means the most to you at the time isn't what matters, i just think its a shame when people take the supports as the only parts of the character instead of keeping up with the reasons in lore why they might act a certain way; that said i dont really vibe with edelgard despite understanding why she does what she does, just something about her feels off, i know she's willing to risk a lot for her dreams but the whole burnin' bernie gig and issues leading back to crests thing make it hard for me to like her
thanks for coming to my ted talk
If Byleth and Leonie have a kid
Well first he's gonna be very busted and OP
But also they better name him Jeralt Jr
Thumbnail: see this fist! Get used to it cause im gonna use it.
Byleth: yes maam
If I want to experience every romance route than I would need to beat this like 20 times
I just hate how she tries to act superior over Byleth saying that she’s Jeralt’s greatest apprentice. Byleth grew up with Jeralt over the 20 years, not just being his apprentice but also being a son/daughter. Leonie was with the guy for like what, a couple months or something. Fuck, I think even Alois spent more time with Jeralt lol.
She has a sweet side though, like her support with Marianne. She obviously cares about her friends but with Byleth, it just makes it seem all she wants to do is one up him/her.
Leonie: Jeralt
Seteth: Flayn
Hubert: Edelgard
Ashe: Lonato
Cyril: Rhea
Dedue: Dimitri
Rhea: Mother
Sylvain: Ingird's Grandma
@@LoudToon99 you win
Catherine: --Lady-- Rhea.
I don't like Leonie she is just so pretentious, and her thinking she is better than Byleth is hilarious. I mean c'mon can Leonie do both Za Warudo & Bites Za Dusto vicariously through a weed loli goddess I don't think so. Not to mention that female Byleth is much more attractive than her so to me Leonie just feels sadly inadequate.
Leonie hater: noooo you can’t like Leonie she’s annoying
Me: tomboy good
Guys she’s not that bad , and frankly I like seeing this side of her , she reminds me of characters like yukair from persona but wait people even hate her
If the dad were still alive she’d probably have pined for him instead.
When Leonie was your first s support and you then read the comments: this post was made by the i don’t know if I made bad choices gang
For real
No regrets here. I don't care that the fandom doesn't like her, because I sure do. Easily the best pairing for male Byleth too.
You shouldn't care about what other people think if you dig the ship.
I honestly liked Leonie. She seemed a bit too tomboyish to romance, but I loved her design post-timeskip. But that wasn’t nearly enough to choose her over Marianne.