Ana Kasparian's Shameless Fearmongering
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#tyt #politics #addiction
Standard right-wing austerity procedure:
1. Pretend a successful social program doesn't work.
2. Defund it until it stops working.
3. Claim you were right about it not working.
4. Cancel the program entirely.
3b: claim the private sector can do it better.
4 alternative: privatise the program, giving your venture capitalist golf buddies another bottomless cash cow while providing much worse service.
5: declare success and move on to the next target.
what they're doing to the NHS in a nutshell lmao
There's a name for this kind of political tactic. It's called "Starve The Beast" and it's not unique or rare in American politics.
The NHS in Britain is top heavy with non frontline administration and bureaucracy and that was down to Tony Blair and New Labour
@@robbiekop7Libs trying to de-socialize a program to assuage cons. Never fails to disappoint.
I'm an econometrician who cut his teeth on drug policy. Portugal decriminalized a VERY long time ago, 20 years or thereabouts. Attributing any explosion in addiction to something that literally happened 20 years ago is ridiculous, especially with domestic policy like this
@@just_a_turtle_chaddeep thought
@@just_a_turtle_chad So is rampant unsafe sex, but anyone wanting to criminalize it (when it's consenting) is morally stupid. Maybe you're joking, I'm tired lol
@@just_a_turtle_chad New content please.
Are they? Most of drugs negative effects are rather a result of criminalisation than an outcome of drug consumption itself.
@@just_a_turtle_chad some are bad and some aren't, just pick the right ones and be responsible, that being said we need to seriously fund drug rehabilitation stuff more instead of funding the drug war
As someone who’s worked in Harm Reduction for over a decade, I applaud Vaush and all the non drug using normies who support abolishing prohibition entirely.
A free meal and offer of help got me off Heroin, and I’ve gotten countless hundreds free of their dependency since. A candy bar and complimentary mint is where it starts!
Why did you start using, to begin with?
@@theunholinesswithin70I think that's irrelevant.
@@kap1618 Explain.
@@theunholinesswithin70 many reasons why people start using. Getting addicted to legal painkillers and then having to go to the black market. Coping with difficult life situations. Peer pressure. For the hell of it because they don't know the possible consequences (lack of education). Every addict has a unique story.
The rate of relapse suggests a large portion of the people you helped get clean didn't stay clean.
the reason that certain STATES see addiction rates rise after implementing more lenient drug policies is bc addicts (many of whose are transient) from harsher states will often go to those states with less criminalization. it’s a no brainer. it just proves that it needs to be a federal thing. it’s not that more people are using drugs, it’s that more people who are already addicts are now moving to the states with better policy
Got any data to back that up?
That applies to homelessness as well. There are cities and states that criminalize homelessness and will sometimes even buy people bus tickets to go somewhere else. They just give the problem to someone else and claim that it's fixed.
I’ll raise you one and say it needs to be a global thing. Why wouldn’t more people just move to Portugal?
This may shock you but it is in fact a lot harder to immigrate to a new country while being an addcit than it is to buy a 20 dollar bus ticket and just go to a different city. One of my 9ld teachers found that greyhound bus tickets in some areas were really cheap and would take you through like 4 states over the course of a week.
@@almosthelpless9374also homeless people tend to go where they can survive. Warm states in winter.
It’s super suss that she keeps saying “liberal” policy and avoids speaking about conservative austerity. All I hear from her is that the police should be deploy to force addicts get clean. Really groundbreaking ideas, Ana. Nowhere has that been tried and monumentally failed.
I think as she is aging, cenks influence is rubbing off on her. Tyt still overall a decent source for news and commentary but a couple big swing and misses lately
Even more suss is this change happened long ago and has had years of benefits and positive outcomes that have helped people. But NOW, years later, there appears to be an increase in addiction and TYT would have us throw out years and years of benefits and success because of a single spike now. That is literally tossing out the baby with the bath water. TYT would never accept this logic on any issue they approve and support, they would never advocate for throwing out years of success and data on descending crime rates because Covid saw a spike.
True, progressive policies or cities may be more accurate. Progressives generally dislike Liberals & blame them for everything. They and conservatives share that commonality
@@kingofsoybeans313Lol tyt has sucked from the getgo all they do is spread lies and misinformation what else do you except from a group of fascists who named thier channel after a genocidal regime.
Guys, I think this is about money as well. They’ve made more money over the years, n money changes ppl, nearly always to more conservative. And, since they’re unabashed capitalists, they slap a shiny coat of paint on that n call it good! It’s self-reinforcing. Haven’t y’all heard them practically drooling over some big mansion in Beverly Hills? They talk endlessly about how amazing it would be to be rich. I would never want to be rich! Safe, comfortable, yes, but change myself? Develop a superior attitude? Lose my friends? They can fucking keep that shit
I was addicted to heroin for 7 years. Lived on the street homeless surrounded by other addicts. Some down on their luck, some that will likely never make it off the street. In my experience, the majority of addicts I've met were medicating. Whether that be emotional or physical pain, almost EVERY SINGLE addict I've met started doing drugs to cope with some sort of pain. They're normal people that have chosen a bad way to cope, and I am living proof that that can change and that addicts can go on to make real, positive impacts on the planet.
With addiction and homeless there seems to always be this "we need to do something about this" rhetoric from the right, it's tinged with this dehumanizing menacing aura. Like dawg just say you wanna through them in death camps don't act like you wanna fix an issue, it's so disgusting.
Not gonna get the NIMBY Karen class to vote for republicans if they say they want to gas the poor, its better to be more caring with the language.
Some don't want to change
How did u change?we need more data people like you
@@Edwin-iw8gb Well if the underlying cause of the pain is never addressed and they don’t have a better way to cope…why would they want to go back to the suffering that caused their addiction in the first place?
When did safe injection sites and clean needle programs become controversial in progressive political discussions? Doesn’t all the available data show it reduces harm? Nah she’s cooked
TYT is not progressive anymore
TYT as a whole has drifted from left-wing towards the right wing.
@@kennyholmes5196>inb4 Ana and Cenk deny the genocide of aramenians for the 2nd time
@@kennyholmes5196 Yeah, ever since Ana got called out on the TERF shit, it seems like TYT has shifted HARD to the right.
@@kennyholmes5196reddit, twitter, TYT, even liberal trash CNN - any sources of news that lean left are under attack.
Ana’s takes on crime are horrible. Always uses anecdotal instances to make her point and sounds exactly like republicans.
Maybe she didn't appreciate being labelled a bonus hole.....just saying
@@robbiekop7 lmao.
@@robbiekop7 Are you being stupid on purpose?
@@robbiekop7And no one did until she made a stink on Twitter. It's all on her.
@@robbiekop7maybe nobody did that she's just trying to promote hysteria because she is a b****
I’m a former addict ended up homeless. What stopped my IV drug use? Learned my grandmother passed away and left me a sizable inheritance. Before that point i was trying to figure out if I wanted to die or keep using drugs to make life livable.
Did drug use stop over night? No. But I did get back in touch with my doctor (I have ADHD ASD and Dysthymia so after recovery I needed to continue treatment to work).
I spent 3 years an IV user. I’ve been clean since May 2021? To anyone struggling, the intense desires and even memory of the high (more so the injection rush) fades after 6 months (not fully but significantly). I can barely remember what the high of shooting up feels like.
Glad you're clean now. But it never occurred to you to get your shit together and make yourself a sizeable amount of money? You had to be given the money before you decided to... stop?
Careful you don't fall back into old habits if that money runs out, or you just get complacent. 2 years is a long time, congratulations on that, but it's not THAT long of a time. Plenty of people relapse after longer periods of sobriety. And the fact that you're saying the inheritance is what led to you quitting is concerning, I know money makes things easier, it opens doors, but the only real way to stay clean is to actually really want to stay clean. You could just be using your newly found wealth as a crutch.
@@markzuckergecko621 I know. I’m working now but the idea of something happening and pushing me back into addiction haunts me. I also have PTSD and a recurring nightmare I Have involves looking for money and shooting up.
I'm a therapist and I see clients all the time whose mental stability is teetering on the line of financial stability. If they just had more financial resources they could get into a better environment to actually be able to heal. Sometimes I'm just trying to keep them afloat so things to don't get worse like losing their jobs which makes it even harder to get them out of toxic environments. Housing first policies would be really helpful!
@@just_a_turtle_chadhard learned lesson. My brain feel slower than it was before. I made a 80% (ish) recovery? I definitely lost IQ points.
When it comes to criminality Ana's logical thinking seems to shut down and is replaced by emotions and anecdotes. It's not the first time it happens with her. That's exactly how conservative minded people approach issues.
Pure white girl who did E once brain.
Being addicted to drugs on its own is already a huge negative , I dont see the need to slap jail time on top of that.
Get them help, not punishment
@@xx_isabel_the_wolf_xx3869 sometimes jail can help. Forced sobriety is what some addicts need.
@@markzuckergecko621 Why don't you take a look at the level of sobriety on those who go to prison for drug use and let me know how well those who go to prison for it end up.
@markzuckergecko621 but when they get out they'll just start using again
I don't know if either of your premises are true. I don't think that drug rates are actually going up because of the policy and I don't think addicts can just up and move to other states. That's really expensive.
ANA IS STILL HOLDING RESENTMENT ABOUT GETTING CALLED OUT. STUNNING HOW CHILDISH AND IMMATURE SHE HAS HANDLED THE WHOLE SITUATION. SHES STILL IN A TAILSPIN FROM IT.
Ana turned AK Rowling and now ana (ancy) reagan
Ana has been on this spiral for a long time. It’s just obvious now.
Who cares? If you thought she wasn't a grifter before, you are naive. There's a reason that place churns these people out.
@@DriscolDevilsaying "she's a grifter" just doesn't explain the behavior sufficiently. Why make such a drastic change recently? Why wouldn't she have done it sooner? There's clearly something else going on, and part of the story might involve grifting, but it just can't be ALL that's going on.
@@oddjam yeah grifting isn’t all of it. There’s gotta be somethin behind the scenes.
You don’t do a segment like this without knowingly misrepresenting the data and ignoring anything that doesn’t support your argument. She’s basically just up there lying about this shit.
But I'm sure you think they were telling the truth about all the stuff you agree with🤣
@@markzuckergecko621this guy again🙄
@@bananaananab3916 Like a cancer cell, that won’t go away.
@@markzuckergecko621 Braindead response from a braindead person.
I was willing to give her the benefit of the doubt for a few months, but I'm pretty convinced at this point she's sold her soul for the money. The way she's speaking at times in this clip literally sounds like an imitation of Tucker Carlson, even if the arguments she's making are (for now) slightly less egregious.
I live in Oregon. The biggest problems with any implementation of harm reduction is underfunded and right wing cops. The police in Portland have flat out said that if any law enforcement money is put into harm reduction or mental health professionals to respond to mental health crisis, they will not respond when businesses call. They say oh, you want to reduce harm that we profit off of? Don't expect us to show up when someone robs you. Don't expect us to protect you if you're protesting (unless you're proud boys)
When I lived there, I never saw a cop do a single productive thing and that was with people begging them for help. They just harass homeless people and occasionally play out Rambo fantasies by inundating downtown with teargas.
You guys want the protection of police you wanted to defund?
That's hilarious
@@Edwin-iw8gb Stuff it.
@@zacheryeckard3051 don't like the truth? Well too bad
What a bunch of petty fools. They should just fire them all and hire people who can think
What did she expect? She thinks that because some people stay addicts, that they wouldn't if it were illegal? Nah, it would just be far worse on them. You don't know why people become addicts, lady. Interventions don't make people sober, unless they decide to. Illegal or legal, someone who is an addict does so for their own reasons. The fact that someone doesn't decide to get sober isn't something that legality changes.
Yeah its underlying unhappiness. Especially with heroin. They want to kill themselves, or so addicts have told me.
Now this is a generalization and coming off of my own personal experience, but I don't think it is too far off to say that most people are drug addicts to escape something that pains them, to numb themselves to whatever stress, trauma, psychological complex, financial burden, or physical pain that hurts them. They first do it for some relief, then it becomes a crutch that they can't bring themselves to let go because they'll feel they'll fall. Escapism. And then there are those that try it a couple times to fit in with people and get hooked that way. But, as far as I know, it is to not feel pain and feel pleasure or oblivion itself. Sorry, mainly venting on reasons why I personally became addicted to alcohol.
Leftists should work on promoting youth culture to shun drugs.
Why is it that I grew mocking any form of drugs as a teenager. Alcohol, weed, hard drugs.
But other teens grew up promoting drug degen. Like leftists do.
That’s the issue. Older generation drug addicts area. Lost cause. Should focus on next Gen to not use drugs.
So Portugal method is terrible.
I mean, the point of an intervention should be to show them that they have a life beyond the drugs, and make them see it so they _can_ decide to choose it instead. If the intervention is, "Yo, you do too many drugs, stop.", it'll never work.
Like Vaush is saying she is being a female Tucker Carlson here. Very very mask off, before it was maybe an issue of deeprooted anti-trans brainworms but this is definitely mask-off shameless grifting.
"we shouldn't have public bathrooms because bulimics might throw up in them and that's ew gross :( " - her probably
I swear, even Ana’s intonation and mannerisms are starting to sound a lot like Tucker Carlson and other right-wing pundits. At 2:41 her tone and delivery sound exactly like something I'd expect from Tucker.
she's in the sunken place
Wondering when she's gonna start laughing psychotically at her own bad "how ridiculous!" statements.
I was thinking the exact same thing this video 😂
She does sound harsher, slightly spiteful in tone compared to a year ago
She was sounding like Lauren Southern to me
I had a Criminology professor in college who used to work at a heroin clinic over in Europe. It was really fascinating to hear his stories & he changed a lot of views for the better.
Ana is basically trying to say that people who wanted to legalize all drugs were claiming that decriminalizing drugs will eliminate all drug usage (including in future generations) and that’s never been the argument for ending prohibition.
As a homeless case manager in Oregon, it boils my blood to listen to someone who is "progressive" (Ana for clarity) just straight up advocating austerity. It's concerning that she can't seem to pick a side. For a bit of insight, Measure 110 has had a very slow roll out, and was not planned out well. It's mostly been the state throwing out a proposal for a new program and then just handing it off to the social service agencies. There's so much I could say about how ineffectual the state's plans have been, but I don't have the energy to write that dissertation.
Yeah pretty much!! SB803 barley ruled out for more implementation on services where peers provide support for those with mental health issues and addiction in California, most people I talk to think the “drug addicts are just bad people” and don’t recognize the ways decriminalization and harm reduction centers can help/ having federally funded programs for people to seek help
. . . . . . . . you do know that in the entire video, she did NOT advocated for austerity. At the most, she said the program needs to be tweak, which involves getting it out of the hands of non profits and having the government fund it instead.
Your blood was boiled because a progress advocated for austerity.. it boils my blood when someone hears one thing and decided it's completely true without any critical thought.
Though I'm also sad, because through the almost 20 years of watching Ana, I know she advocate against the war on drugs, but dude who at the end seems to be confused decided to call her a drug addict fearmonger and you took that completely even though none of the presented facts points to that.
It's very strange that Ana seems to be following Dave Rubin's playbook almost to the letter, when she used to be one of the best commentators at TYT
@@paulshipper143 She technically put the data out there. But she put the fearmongering on BLAST while giving the counter-points in an off-hand manner. At best that's just a terrible method of conveying her supposed narrative.
Add SB48 to that and it's a complete mess
I'm so sick and tired of the seething HATE people have towards drug addicts and users. No discussion about the economic, systemic, and genetic reasons why someone would end up with a drug addiction. Just "drug addicts bad." Drug addicts are demonized and blamed for their own addiction and completely dismissed as deserving of basic human compassion.
Well in Cleveland they murder and rob people for money to get more drugs. They constantly break into cars and homes, they leave used syringes all over the place the the one that stuck me and infected me with HIV. Worked at an impound lot car came in I got in to park it and the syringe the junkie had just used was hidden in the driver's seat and it stuck me. A junkie basically ended my life with that.
"Different people bad" is humanity's favourite sport.
@@just_a_turtle_chadand they also make people feel better when they have an untreated medical condition
where is she seething hate .drug addiction is not good I have many dead family members because of it. now you can do what you want I smoke squares and drink no drugs still hurting me and I know that. but hard drugs even if I think they should be legal still cause harm in all communities
@just_a_turtle_chad That's true, but that doesn't make drug addicts bad people. And that doesn't mean all drug addicts do bad things on drugs. High-functioning drug addicts are more prevalent than you realize because you can't even tell they're on drugs.
Portuguese people have told me that the reason addiction rates are going up again is because of the austerity policies that de-fund these policies that help drug addicts to get off the stuff. So, again, the problem is capitalism, lmao.
Ya didn’t ask em to cite sources?
This is the exact case. Source: am from Portugal
@@diogocanelas5927 well great cause Ana agreed
@@brutuslugo3969she sure spent a whole lot of time blaming decriminalisation itself though didn’t she
@@finalcut612 she didn’t blame decriminalization not once . Her blame was on the mishandling of private entities and the lack of funding that occurred …. If she were blaming the decriminalization then she wouldn’t be in support of it as she clearly is …
As someone from Portugal that grew up with this policy I can say just from personal experience that the increase idrug use can be related to the successive economic crises that we have been living through, a feeling of desperation in the young population and an increase of the immigrant labour force which are terribly explored and often use drugs which are indeed easily available to cope with the hardship. If you make people's life miserable they will always turn to drugs
We need three things.
1. Universal, single-payer healthcare.
2. Drug decriminalization.
3. Free higher education so there are more experts to help more people with their addictions.
@@eyeney6859bcause it is not your fault if you have an underlying medical condition causing you to turn to drugs and our healthcare system is absolutely terrible about addressing these issues!
Do you kick dogs that are starving on the street or something??? Do you just care that little for everyone else around you?
Yes they do, because there a troll. Brilliant answer anyway.
@@eyeney6859the personal accountability talking point that has been pushed in the last 40 years has turned america into a third world country. It’s lowered our standard of living
@@eyeney6859if my neighbors house is on fire for whatever reason
I'm not gonna sit back and go "well I guess he should take personal responsibility and put it out himself"
I'm gonna call the damn publicly funded fire department before his fire spreads to my house
@@ZachRULES96 we are not a third world country. What's lowering our standard of living is late-stage capitalism
Waiting for her to say people with mental illness are scary. It's coming. I can feel it.
She basically already has when she's talked about homeless people.
I mean she hasn't said those exact words but she's pretty much said everything else
They can be.🤷🏻 My dear friend has schizophrenia & experienced psychosis. He didn't know if I was real or not & thought ghosts were speaking to him. It was scary.
She has already fear mongered that basically all ppl in LA who are not adequately housed (this was during the pandemic) are either addicts, or are homeless BECAUSE they're very mentally unwell (imagine a poli sci professor never considering if ppl could experience trauma or become sick from enduring conditions that would eff up anyone.
Some people with mental illness and drug addiction are scary.
I see a TYT/Jimmy Dore and Rave Dubin reunion soon.
That is a good thing!
I wonder what on earth could have happened between 2019 and 2022 to inspire a huge spike in opioid usage... 🤔
Alcoholism, depression and loneliness seemed to go up around that time also? I don't get it, I'm so confused!
We will probably never know :(
It's a mystery
Funding reduced by 80%
I’m 10 years clean from opiate addiction. My brother and sister were also addicts. I somehow luckily never got into any criminal trouble during my active addiction. I was able to get clean, stay clean and move on with a normal life not hindered from any type of employment, etc. My brother and sister both got into legal trouble directly resulting from drug use like possession etc. They are both dead from overdose because every time they got clean, their lives wouldn’t improve at all because of the legal issues ongoing. So they just gave up and went back to active addiction because at least then they had something to dull the pain and something to look forward to in their day. My life is what recovery should be but is not reality for most addicts who aren’t lucky like I was to not get caught. Decriminalization of a health crisis is common sense.
Lets stop blaming others for the consequences of their actions they chose to take drugs
People need to start taking accountability for their own actions
People who stigmatize addiction are much more dangerous and harmful than addicts themselves
Lol oh really? So it’s the people who stigmatize drug addiction that are lying, manipulating and stealing from their own family members who are the problem? That’s amazing logic my friend
@@user-et3xi9zw2qabsolute 🤡 comment lmao
@@MrDougfunny7nah he's spot on. Addiction can cause IMMENSE harm to themselves and those around them.
"People who stigmatize addiction are much more dangerous and harmful than addicts themselves."
Being against legalization of extremely dangerous substances that mental health experts say cause or worsen mental illness or mental health issues and cause drug-induced psychosis is not "stigmatization of addiction". And if you think that drug-addicts are "harmless" or "not that dangerous"... go tell that to a person who have had four murder attempts on their lives by three drug-addicts who were having drug-induced psychosis and you're fucked with looking sane in their eyes. I'm lucky to be alive. And so is my sister. If it wasn't for some safe space where I could call for help or some cops being nearby when it happened, I wouldn't be here to tell the tale. So fuck you. Stigmatizing victims of violent crimes and murder attempts who nearly lost their lives at the hands drug-addicts who refuse to quit using and/or refuse to get real help and constantly have drug-induced psychosis is far more harmful than making it illegal for you to get some of those dangerous substances and legalizing all said dangerous substances. Fuck you, man, just fuck you.
@@MrDougfunny7 right because drug attic’s never steal or hurt people to get their drugs! That guy is not a clown, he’s 100% correct. People who stigmatize drug addicts don’t do terrible things to get drugs.
Ironic considering a year ago you couldn't get her to shut up about how awesome shrooms were and how she smoked weed every day.
Weed and Shrooms aren't the same as meth fentanyl and crack, she was talking about hard drugs!
Weed and shrooms are probably the least harmful drugs that exist. That's a far cry from the harder drugs she's primarily talking about.
@@fatronjones*gasp* not the hard drugs!
@@mugsmcratmin6842 You'd never treat cigarettes like that, but for dumb online lefties drugs are completely above criticism.
@@jakublutek9361get off the crackpipe grandpa 😭😂
Hmmm, when drugs are decriminalized (and therefore much less stigmatized), the amount of people reporting their addiction is higher than if the drugs were illegal. It can't be that people are more willing to report their addiction, it MUST be that these clinics are encouraging people to get addicted.
Edit: Made my original comment before watching, at 11:40 feels cool to predict that.
Ha! I totally forgot about that! Also, love the sarcasm.
This is post hoc af . The reporting of addiction reporting going down when the decriminalization happen was used to champion the decriminalization as a success . Those same numbers go up and we post hoc an answer as to why that’s happening ?? No
@@brutuslugo3969first, the decriminalization program was funded well and resulted in a massive drop in drug addicts. Later, the program got their funding cut massivley and the drop in drug addicts reversed. Can you connect the two dots yet? If you fund the program, it works, if you don't fund it, it doesn't work
@@CollinGerberding did vaush present this as an either or situation ?
@@brutuslugo3969 Don't you worry about Vaush. Just respond directly to the points being made to you in this thread.
By next year Ana will be further right than Kanye
Really? she'll be to the right of Nazi kanye because she is against the decriminalization of drugs?
Depends when he gets around to watching across the spider-verse.
@@just_a_turtle_chadim tired of seeing you
shit yourself
right now
She's Kasparian the Friendly Host 👻
(The insult being directed at the Mr Mackey reply guy not the initial comment).
Man that was fast how far they’ve fallen these last few months. Please legalize drugs
No
Tell that to stupid Glenn younkin who screwed up our weed legalization here in va. God I hate the usa. I'm preparing to leave it.
@@Edwin-iw8gbwhy? You a war on drugs simp from the Nixon years?
Ana Karenian was NOT on my 2023 Bingo card :(
TYT is really continuing down that right wing grifter path.
Yall use the word "grifter" a bit too loosely.
Bro, look how proud of herself she looks. She really thinks she has discovered the truth. She has entered the realm of the delusional.
@@just_a_turtle_chad
I think drugs are neutral and should be available to adults if they want it; I'm in favor of freedom, and don't just resort to surface-level thought processes of whether it's just "good or bad".
@@Silverfang447ask any drug addict if they think drugs are "neutral".
@@markzuckergecko621
I have; they say they're good... very good. 👍
Sou Português, vivo no Porto. Nunca vi as notícias que ela apresenta na nossa comunicação social. O que ela está a dizer é provavelmente 95% mentira. Comparado com o resto da Europa, o problema que temos com drogas em Portugal é minusculo
É verdade o que dizes. Eu vivo em Lisboa. A única coisa que mudou é que, em vez de as pessoas se drogarem às escondidas, não têm problema em admitir. Para não falar da quantidade de turistas nos últimos 7 ou 8 anos na noite de Lisboa, que certamente fez diferença.
@@leaodacontabilidade5026 Bem visto, de certeza que esse é um fator muito importante. Lisboa e Porto têm turistas praticamente o ano inteiro
Vivo em Coimbra e não faço a mínima ideia do que ela está a falar. Tirando o o aumento estatístico que é o normal devido ao COVID e o isolamento que vem com isso, eu não noto nenhum aumento substancial envolvido com drogas. Sempre tive a perspetiva que existe muito que melhorar mas claramente que não estamos numa crise critica da maneira como ela quer retratar.
@@andregoncalves4365 wtf como é que estão, pelo menos, 3 portugueses a ouvir um clip do vaush? É tipo agulha no palheiro mm haha
@@leaodacontabilidade5026 agora são quatro ;)
If decriminalizing drug addiction isn't effective, what is, because criminalizing addiction isn't either. I mean, I get that they just want to execute anyone with a pinch of weed, but until they're honest about that they'll be running in circles lol.
Hmm, it seems like, without the profit motive of capitalism, cartels would have no reason to create more addicts...
It's amazing how the term "birthing person" can trigger you into flip flopping on every social and economic position you've ever held. That and a regular cheque from a sociopath.
Ana got dragged on Twitter and she has never been that same since.
Seriously, i think it was when she was sexually assaulted when she was walking her dog by a homeless person. also, a sad case of a dog being killed by a homeless man, when the dog was defending his owner and the left defended the homeless man. add to that I think politics in general in California is taking her off the deep end.
No she got mainly ignored and then brought it up again 3 weeks later and was still ignored.
@@persebraif anecdotes can change your politics then your politics are poorly formed in the first place.
@@oddjam she had that personal experience, it was not just an anecdote for her.
@@persebra but it is by definition an anecdote. If you get robbed by a black guy and then change your political stances to be more anti black you're a selfish asshole, and that's exactly what she's being lately
Let us just acknowledge that Ana mentioned the defunding once at the 12 minute mark.
And for the rest of the video refered to it as "changes in the program from 2012" as opposed to just calling it a lack of funding...
In essence, she does not drive home the point or the problem. She included it in the video yes, probably a subconcious attempt to seem fair and balanced. But snuck it in somewhere in the middle and never mentioned it again, only refering to it in abstract so it's easily ignored and forgotten about.
Over the much larger message which she repeated, like she was screaming it from the rooftop. "Portugals policy FAILED".
As she said many times, which will therefor be the key takeaway from the video for the viewers. Like "Most likely the people implementing it here, haven't seen the most recent reports of how the program failed"... When it didn't, when it's an economic issue.
Ana knows rhetoric, she knows to reinforce your point by repeating your thesis, if you say the policy failed 3 times, people will remember it, if you say the program was defunded once people will forget. Ana also should know the model of your 2nd strongest argument 1st, weakest argument 2nd and your best argument last, because people remember the begining and the end the most.
Point is, the defunding which should've been the strongest point, really got played as the most forgettable and weakest bc of the way she decided to talk about it.
And worse, when she used the quote from the "architect" of the program, she intentionally left out the the next sentence in the article that explained he was criticizing the lack of funding, not the policies themselves. I found that part really disgusting.
@@Fragenzeichenplatte yea exactly.
Ana has been on a conservative Karen arc for a long time now. Its slow, and it gets a boost every time she gets called out, but its inevitable.
She'll be full on conservative by 50. If she had kids, it would've happened already.
She thinks "Karen" is a racial slur 😂🙄
AK Rowling
I remember her saying that she wont have kids and that is why it was weird she got so mad about the phrase "birthing person".
@@mursuka80 I still don't understand what's wrong with that phrase... It's important to have a term which accounts for situations when the person who carried the baby isn't the genetic parent or isn't a person who will be raising the kid.
Ana: "I researched this". Reading bits of a couple of articles doesn't count as research.
Vaush literally doing the same ….
Ana is and has always been lazy. Her nervous tick of "ya know" reveals the lack of depth she brings to most stories she covers.
@@brutuslugo3969he’s reporting actual data tho innit
@@finalcut612 so is she , or are the graphs she presented just pretty little pictures?
@@brutuslugo3969 she’s interpreting them in bad faith
Jesus, it won’t end will it?
when will we be FREEEEEE
Enjoy the pendulum swing.
Once we learned that the Daily Wire were offering Crowder 50mil it was inevitable that someone would pivot. I dont see Ana joining DW. Rather TYT trying to get some of that money for themselves.
In my psychiatry rotation, we had a two hour lecture on addiction and substance abuse, and the lecturer was extremely empathetic and honest and went to extreme lengths to drone in the point that addicts aren't criminals, and that locking em up is only going to exacerbate their issues. He talked about a pycho-socio-biological model that explains how addiction works and how it should be addressed and bless his heart, he went on a rant about brutes in governments creating policies that kill people.
Was hoping Vaush would release a critique of this alt-right Ana's rant. Glad he didn't disappoint.
Me too! I unsubscribed to tyt during Ana's disgusting performative birthing person hissy fit, but it still shows up on my feed and I'll see subjects I am interested in, but her voice makes me nauseous so I won't click. I really wanted to see this covered, but couldn't stomach watching it straight. Gotta have Vaush filter it for me.
23:04 I’m surprised Vaush doesn’t see how bad her argument is with the safe injection site. Why would it be easier for a family to stage an intervention if the guy shot his speedball in a backalley behind a dumpster? It’s a lot easier to intervene if he goes to the shooting site. It’s a lot easier to know where a drug addict is if there are places designed for them to be in, instead of them hiding. These facilities don’t only have nurses, they have resources for detox, for people who are very hard to reach otherwise.
The other guy says he has to drive 1.5 hours to go to the site because otherwise it creates problems with his family. Does she think those “problems” are them finding out? They obviously know. The problems are a lot more likely to be him getting kicked out.
And I’m sorry if shooting himself in the neck is too gross for Ana, but that’s just what they do, injection site or not. I’ve seen people injecting all over their body except for scalp, tits and ass (no veins). Neck and dick are probably the worst, but what are we going to do about it, make sure they hide more so we don’t find out? At least at the site they don’t do it with dirty needles, and are supervised by a nurse. The real problem with these sites is that the doctors/nurses are not allowed to help them inject (for legal reasons). This is why the nurse is just standing there in the article. The guy would probably have a few more workable veins, and there would be almost no danger of hitting an artery.
And what does she mean by “staging an intervention”? Kidnapping your loved one, throwing them at a detox centre, pay and leave? Congratulations, they just walked out the back door and you’re $10K poorer.
She’s giving off strong nimby vibes. She doesn’t like their reality, so the solution is to hide them away from our sight and punish them for daring to do something that makes her uncomfortable.
She's literally just doing a fox news segment.
Ana: The program worked but then it didn’t.
Vaush: When did it stop working?
Ana: Yeah, it stopped working.
Vaush: Right, but when did it stop working?
Ana: I mean we have stories of a guy shooting up naked…
Vaush: When did it stop working?
Mayor of Porto: It was defunded.
Ana: Right, but it stopped working. It shows some promise though.
*Facepalm*
I don't know why Ana seems to think that the law would hve effects on people's behaviour like this. She should know better that people are negatively affected by this economy, and fall into addictions. Why would throwing already poor people in prison for using drugs help things?
She DOES know better. She is grifting, she knew this for over a decade dude
If they are negatively affected by the economy maybe they shouldn't be spending what little money they have on drugs
@@Edwin-iw8gb NEVER HEARD THAT ONE!
i am so sick of ana. she is taking a full dive into conservative grifting.
So far this woman has gone after trans people, houseless people, and now substance users. Smh. She is so full of herself and she really needs to take the time to educate herself about these issues before running her mouth.
Maybe its just a secret plot and ana is trying to become the main candidate of the gop by going further right than trump =D
Maybe she's on a deep cover assignment to infiltrate the Right & destroy it from within.
Imagine being in such an idealogical blackhole that you think Ana Kasparian is further right than Trump.
Growing up in a family of New Yorkers and spending a lot of time there, I was always taught the polar opposite of what Ana is saying. They’re not as scary as they might seem. Just pop your earbuds in and ignore them. If you don’t bother them, they won’t bother you. On the off chance they do try to physically hurt you, then that’s a different story. But the overwhelming majority of drug addicts are harmless and have no bad intentions, they just need help.
@eyeney6859 "human pests" lmfao dude, any point you tried to make just fell into the lava pit and burnt alive. Why do I feel like your solution to the stray dogs and "human pests" would be to put them all down? Pretty much all of the issues you cited are due to economic issues, but you prefer to have an enemy to blame for all of society's problems, instead of something that's hard for an individual to grasp. It's okay, I understand that the economy is a scary concept to tackle, considering how abstract it is. Maybe you'll learn one day. Maybe you'll keep being a troll who believes in nothing. Who knows?
@@eyeney6859 so what are your thoughts on the expendable, exploitable appalachia?
@@eyeney6859”filthy surroundings” is a hell of a way to dehumanize the unhoused…
@@nathanmcguire932 needles lying on he ground in places like philidelphia isn't just 'filthy' it's a biohazard for people who don't use substances including kids.
Cities can leave buckets and garbage cans around for sharps disposal but they seem to just be ignored. Anyways cities need to hire entire clean up crews to make their public spaces livable or even traversable in the worst areas.
Yeah except I've been attacked by these mentally ill drug addicts so ignoring them is not a good idea you should be wary you don't know which ones are dangerous and which are docile
It's so eerie looking at Ana and her eyes sparkling, like she has done something. She has the flat earther look. That semi-crazy glint where you feel special, like you know something no one else knows. It's got to be similar to the rush she felt getting recognized by leftists as being brave, being a progressive in a sea of the right. Now she looks like the high she gets from the right leaving the left is doing it for her. The lady is the definition of endorphin rush and money being more important than actual data.
@HeisenbergIsHere yo mama
I'm pretty sure just about everyone knows drugs are bad, the far left would definitely be the flat earthers in this analogy, with a smug glint in your eye like you know the REAL truth, that drugs are actually totally fine!!!
Spot on analysis. Ana is getting off on the attention.
Remember her words on that podcast that made the rounds: "[...] when all your friends and peers try to tell you that something is wrong which you know to be true [...]". It's typical conspiracy-talk. It's the "rush" of (supposedly) being so much smarter than the people you regard as smart yourself. It's the idea of being the true galaxy size brain in the room taking hold. And it always only leads but one way. Bye, Ana. Just make it quick, will ya?
This is looking into things way too fucking closely. This is what Trumpists do to justify themselves. Criticize the facts don't Magic Eye someone and mentally convict them. This AIN'T it.
Ana is too far gone
I feel like this is something im going to be saying a lot now, but attributing the increase in drug use to destigmatisation is something the old Ana would have pointed out.
She originally believed that destigmatization would lead to less drug use/abuse which was true for a while . Why wouldn’t she change her tune a bit when those numbers disagree with her assumption ?
@@brutuslugo3969 because the numbers don't disagree with her assumptions. The numbers are 20 yrs after seeing massive success during that time and even the recent uptick is still lower than places that criminalize drugs.
@@brutuslugo3969because the numbers are just numbers unless you can establish some causal link between increased drug use and destigmatisation
@@brutuslugo3969 you don't change your mind just because the number is different, you change your mind because the circumstances behind the number are different. Fluctuations can occur for any number of reasons, but without taking into account the variables that influenced the outcome, the number is meaningless.
She literally just went "number is bigger and therefore bad. Number should be smaller and therefore good". Nothing in society exists in a vacuum, and we can't afford to treat our data as if it does.
@@saga685 the thing is that when number low everyone said SUCESS when , therefore when number go up that means something isn’t working . If you watch the full segment she explains what went wrong . Spoilers , she doesn’t blame decriminalization
Keep this opinion of theirs in mind if they ever claim to want to better peoples lives
@@just_a_turtle_chadaddiction is a medical issue, not a moral failing
Maybe they think less people using drugs will make more people's lives better?
and I like turtles.
@@markzuckergecko621are you 12? That’s the only explanation I can come up with for why your brain is so underdeveloped
And all this time I thought Ana was a drug addict
Copium is a helluva drug
Can we be sure? Some of the most outspoken conservatives against recreational drug use, are also the biggest consumers in politics. (not arguing that Ana's a con)
Heck, if Maddy Cawthorn is to be believed, drugs are a favorite snack at republican "group" parties
I'm.Jimmy Duh is on something.
Countries like Portugal and The Netherlands just objectively have a far better approach to drugs than the US does. TYT is really going down the list and checking off reactionary talking point after reactionary talking point, and I'm genuinely wondering what's going on with them.
For somebody who is fearmongering about drug usage, Ana Kasparian sure does love to cite crack pipes for research.
Has Ana looked at any studies showing the effectiveness of family interventions?
Good one.
It's a classic example of finding any argument, no matter if it works, to rationalize your pre-existing feelings. She doesn't like Portugal's drug policies and so she came up with the idea of family interventions as a counter-argument. It doesn't matter it if makes sense, it sounds good and confirms her feelings.
Hi Ana how about we don't give kudos to a guy that said that women need to stay in their abusive marriages.
also the idea that they think an increased usage of drugs wouldn't be at least partially tied to the fact that we've been in a pandemic for 4 years is just braindead
Serious question, could this not also be something like what happened with left handed people, gay people, and trans people? You know, where as soon as started to decriminalize and tried to understand we found that there were a lot more people that were left handed, gay, or trans. I'm not comparing drug use to being LBGTQ+ or left handed, I'm asking if this could also be attributed to a better understanding of what it means to be an addict, and the addicts themselves feeling like they can come out of the shadows to get the help they need?
This is exactly the case, you smart cookie. 😊
I grew up in a ghetto (race relations in europe if you know what i mean) Was shooting up by 13. The whole addiction was made way worse by the medical system abusing us in hospitals, denying subsistution and needles (what could go wrong). I am still addicted to pills but i am way better. Got into masters today. Addiction is incredibly painful and people don t get that the rest of society trying to make it worse just ends up making you more addicted
Hope you get better man, it's good that you've come this far since then.
@@xx_isabel_the_wolf_xx3869 im the only one from my hood who got in uni. I am proud of it. Managed to get the attention of some professors and we want to start a project with EU funds to help inclusivity for addicted people. ( as opposed to the integration aproach). At every step tho prejudice is real even in uni, people constantly bitched about me being high, in HS the teachers would force me to show my trackmarks to freshmens every year, and a lot of students in uni complained about "affirmative action" even tho i wasn t on that program ( here all degrees have 2 or 3 spots left for roma kids).
@@livinginahotdog1563 Congratulations, that's amazing. ❤
Thank yall for the kind words. Also ill continue trauma dumping, sorry , but here i tried to get clean by going to our psych wards a total of 10 times. It never worked. All i ever ate was undercooked rice , chicken, and if lucky a slice of cheese there. We also were beaten by the guards, i was tied to a bed for sometimes up to 10 hours while screaming i could not brrathe ( i had an adverse reaction to their meds). Also, only on the 10th time i managrd to get on methadone. And is so stupid here that methadone is available in just two cities in the whole country ( i hate the balkand i hste the balkans). On a side note i think i got ptsd from all the shit that happened in our hood, i got stabbed multiple timed and shot at, i stabbed other people and shot at them, had 5 break ins just last year, i can go on and on. But luckly tru hussling i am no longer in poverty , i moved to a normal hood (not great but its mostly poor old people), and I hope ill show my country just how much we struggle
11:09 Listen to what she says here. There are more adults [reporting] their drug use, but this was supposed to lower the [prevalence of drug abuse]. These are different things. Now, there's other factors at play but the amount of people self reporting going up doesn't necessarily mean that use has gone up, only that people feel comfortable self reporting
Simply put. She's not smart enough to know that.
... or lazy enough to just copy/paste from the Post.
... or dishonest enough not to care, as long as it bolsters her argument.
A countdown clock has begun until Ana appears on Bill Maher's show as a "one of the good conservative voices".
Doctors over prescribing opiates was a 2000s problem, it’s the other way around now. We’ve got terminal cancer patients who can’t get opiates. I think they deserve plenty of blame, the current opiate epidemic is no doubt a residual consequence, but atm they’re being overly cautious about it to the other extreme.
Sidenote, norways falure of implementing the portugal system was NOT because it wouldnt have worked, but because all our political parties had to agree, and one out of 7 didnt agree with it
I hope next election you can organise your government in a way that they're not needed.
@@lukehenderson5097 Yeah thats not happening im afraid, also it was our biggest liberal/ left leaning party that voted against it, which is even more baffling
What was their reasoning for voting against it?
@@Veon1 drugs bad, this makes people think using drugs good, police don't like it hur dur, bunch of bs
@@itzhen7032 wow so disappointing, how is that kind of discourse still going on in 2023, people refuse to learn from the failure of the drug war...
I have to admit, i hate when the best thing my country has done in terms of health and social betterment in the last 20 years is missrepresented to serve as a token argument in american culture wars. It really really grinds my gears specially when it has that nice veneer of european racism where rich northern countries do this and their problems are immigration but here in the south its because of bad culture and immigrants, while in fact the main thing most holding these programs back from more success in all the countries are the liberal mask wearing facists that are trying to go from partial control to total control, and then there is tyt the librals that fall for the bs the facists spew
The good numbers where in 2012, well lets see what has happened in the last decade, 10 years of economic recession, bad bank bailouts and debt to the european union destroying the states economy, then a once in a lifetime pandemic on top of that, i wonder why people are consuming more drugs. The blatant disregard for all the hundreds of other socio economic reason why these increases are happening to blame the decriminalization program is not a ignorant move but a completely evil one because no one is that ignorant unless its wilful. Our healthcare "system" might be better on paper, but it's been destroyed by covid both our medical professional and institutions are battered bloodied and wavering without help from the state, we even had a nationwide issue with our public maternities not having enough doctors and beds for people giving birth, we cant fund our maternities much less our addiction centres
It's interesting that Anna "left the left" and immediately her analytical capability was divided by 20. She used to make herself known for being analytical and being able to see an issue in multiple dimensions, but now she's in full reactionary mode. Sad.
Having studied Addictions counseling, harm reduction is the current best practice. The data and history supports it. Social safety nets and decriminalization is far better than more cops or harsher sentencing. Ana is once again on the right of this issue, same with homelessness, and Trans rights.
Well I guess I’m now a conservative like Ana bc I am with her on this one.. I mean do we all have to be of one opinion in the liberal-sphere?
@bro6568
Not even Vaush agrees with Liberal orthodoxy 100% of the time. Vaush is very pro-gun ownership which would put him at odds with most Liberals who believe the 2nd amendment should be abolished and we should adopt Australia's laws on guns. So does this make Vaush a Conservative now? Very few human beings agree with The Left 100% of the time just like very few human beings agree with The Right 100% of the time. Most people a.k.a normies vote for a party not because they agree with that party 100% of the time but because they agree with that party 70%-to-90% of the time!
What has happened with Ana? It's not even just that she's been sliding to the right, she is intentionally misleading viewers. She really is becoming Tucker Carlson. Wow Ana... just wow.
I guess someone had to fill his floppy red clown shoes.
Ana unironically be like "can we appreciate the effort JD Vance is putting into becoming more moderate"
I do some work in harm reduction (mainly sti prevention and treatment, but in an area of overlap), and one of the complications in our work is the stigma surrounding addiction (I'm in a red state).
If the state had the authority to administer drugs in a safe manner (with treatment being urged), we'd see cuts in HIV, but especially Hep C, not to mention no fear of tainted drugs. It's common sense and can be done on a municipal level.
I saw someone in chat saying you can't die from heroin withdraw. You absolutely can. People with a severe addiction who is left unattended, say in a jail cell, can die from dehydration and other complications associated from sudden uncontrolled withdraw.
Part of the failure in Oregon is that money was allocated, but it was never actually decided what the money would be spent on. There was also supposed to be the creation of a separate unit of social workers who would respond to addiction/mental health crisis instead of the police. That has not happened.
Let's ignore Sweden having one of the strictest drug laws yet is at the top of the EU list when it comes to drug overdoses and how much it fuels criminal gangs.
How’s this any different than conservatives saying “blue states have the strictest gun laws but have this highest rates for gun crimes”
Her metamorphosis is progressing much faster than Dave Rubin's or Jimmy Dore's did 😂
We have something similar here in Switzerland and the results are very positiv.
Yes, it would of course be better if people stopped using, but that's not always possible for them.
Having a save place with clean needles and stuff to use is reducing their risk of overdose plus can give people the chance to live a (halfway) normal life. Some might even maintain a job and all that.
Helping people is sooooo much better than criminalizing them.
There was opposition to the Oregon drug program when it was a ballot measure in 2020 precisely because the whole thing lacked proper funding. Even people who were pro-decriminalizaion were against it because it looked designed to fail and then could be weaponized to never bring forth proper decriminalization and treatment legislation.
I have been clean for 8 years now and I can say I wish I had a safe place to use and clean gear when I was getting high. On top of that this idea these programs aren't designed to help people get clean is ridiculous and harmful. When I was ready to get clean, I did... none of the consequences really did that for me and there were a lot including multiple felonies. Anna is really pulling a Dave Rubin it's crazy.
The Netherlands has put bans on smoking pot in public because tourists would do it way too much - the only reason they do it there is because it's illegal where they are from...
theres also an argument that a drug use center makes it easier for people to make the choice to overcome their addiction easier then family. Not only is family unfortunately unreliable not everyone has good families theres also the problem of "ok ill go tomorrow" *doesnt go tomorrow* meanwhile in the drug use center. "ok ill go tomorrow" "sir we have a class on right now you can attend while your here do you want to try it?" convenience is a powerful tool
Decriminalisation, and support, works for a whole lot of things: prostitution, drugs, etc.
America's "crime" culture is pretty weird.
She's got that classic contrarian mindset. Thinks that having some kind of "unpopular opinion" means that you're just ahead of the game. Like some kind of persecuted Galileo-type character. That shit really came full-circle when the contrarians with small credentials and large imaginations latched on to the whole flat-earth idea a few years ago. You would think that people would have become disenchanted with contrarianism after that, but it almost feels like it has become more popular than ever to think of yourself as some kind of transcendental four-dimensional superthinker with an imagined inhuman emotional resilience and ability to accept the "hard facts". I swear it must be this 21st century super-weed doing this to us, that shit is sus.
The point made is "We tried Portugal's NATIONAL policy on a LOCAL scale in a few places and the results aren't as desirable as we want..."
Well, no shit, Vance! Why would national policy and inconsistently applied municipal policy bring the same results?
Ana is really going downhill politically since that Twitter incident.
She totally lost me at "outside her house gate." That told me all you need to know about the intent.
As someone from Portland, Oregon (now living in Salem). We don't have enough resources to help those who are using drugs. They made a big move policy without having anything to substantially back it up. Our psychiatric care here is absolute trash too because there's not enough resources to help with that. It's a fiasco over here.
I live in Scandinavia,this is completely normal here as well.
I have worked as a private investigator and often crossed paths with people falling trough the cracks of society.
These measures when properly funded works remarkably well when combined with decriminalization.
It is not surprising in any way that she said this. She has a history of doing sub par research. The fact she “taught” journalism is super embarrassing.
I hated tyt before it was cool
This might be my favorite vaush vid. Every time I had a thought, he articulated it immediately. Well demonstrated
Thank you so much for this video, Vaush. I'm a mental health nurse and lecturer and what you said is completely correct. This mode is harm minimisation and there are so many studies showing that this model, of safe injecting rooms, not judging people, supporting them in their choices to minimise harm, actually works to get people into treatment. We have these safe injecting rooms in Australia and they have helped clean up the streets and save lives as nurses are on site and the have about 5 overdoses a day, and they revive the people.
U r very lucky in western world. Where i m from lot of problems concerning going to neurologists or psychologists
My girlfriend ten years ago was from a larger mid-size city in France. She was a pharmacist, And a regular part of her job in this nice pharmacy in the city centre was to hand out clean needles and syringes to drug-addicts and TEST the drugs they brought with them. This ensured that they didn't share needles, didn't therefore spread illnesses, but the testing also ensured that the addicts knew that they were not pumping the most disgusting garbage into their veins and also had a professional neirby to help. This definititely helped get people off the streets. It helped addicts have regular contact with healthcare professionals, incredibly raising the amount of addicts who actually got help getting away from the drugs because they actually got to bond with those who wanted to help them, allowing them to trust the pharmacists.
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So yeah, decriminalization all the way!
*Program does not work as well after 87% funding cuts*
Anacdote: "guys I'm not against the program but we need to tweak it cause obviously there's a problem with it"
TYT lost touch
Just Anna, the rest are ok
What did she say here that was wrong?
@@brutuslugo3969did you watch the video or are you just incompetent?
Karen kasparian is fun to say
Regardless of the reliability of the data, the fact that she leapt on this story like a hungry leopard and seems so pleased by her conclusions is... odd
She'll be looking for a Republican to agree with each week to signal to breaking points/ tim pool / jummy dore watcher. Hey, I'm not a crazy lefty. I agree with the other side. So, really, that makes me much more objective
She slathered up JD Vance because he misrepresented Portugals' policy in a calm voice.