Modifying a 31 year old Woodworking Machine: Shopsmith Mark V to Shop Deputy Conversion
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- My Shopsmith Mark V Headstock runs so strong and is so useful I just can't get rid of it. But, with the new Shopsmith Mark 7 in the garage, I can keep a second full sized machine. It's not a Short, it's not a Mini, it's not a Mark 4, its a "Shop Deputy"
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Well done sir! Before you know it you’ll have the most complete workshop that will fit anywhere, and can do everything you want! “Space”, the final frontier! You’re mastering it wonderfully!
That's the plan!
Tom, that’s “pocket on a shirt” handy!
Can’t wait to see how you Lego that into your winter storage space!
Thanks Dave, I have a storage plan. But now I have to sort out quite a few extra parts before I can test out the stacking.
It takes a very asstute and classy gentleman to appreciate a good shirt pocket.
Really cool way to make use of the Mark V. I appreciate that you kept things simple by cutting down the cart to the right height. I would have overcomplicated the hell out of that. 😂
Thanks Wayne! I overcomplicated it in my head for the better part of this week. I was looking at folding contractor saw stands and all sorts of implements. Just had the brainwave yesterday to shorten the keter and put the four feet on the four corners of the tool casters. I actually have 3 keter tables, so wasn't worried about this one becoming a donor.
That’s pretty cool. Glad you figured out what to do with that extra machine. I’ve got an extra 500 that I’m probably gonna make a dedicated drill press.
Thanks Tim. So many options for an extra mark 5! One of the great things about them.
Really enjoyed this particular video! I’d like to deputize one for a sanding station.
Thanks Neil glad it helped!
Very useful video Tom, this makes a lot of sense. I replaced the headstock when I bought my PowerPro so this may be a good use. I also wanted to keep the headstock around as a backup.
Thanks James, my thoughts exactly. If the PowerPro needs to go in for service, I have a one ready to go while I wait.
My Deputy is dedicated to a sanding station. I have the belt sander and disk sander mounted on it. Works better than any belt/disk combo you can buy!
I agree completely!
Love it and love and your channel.
Hi Tom, met you at the 75th reunion thing. My question was, did you make an episode on maxiclamps?
Hi John. I did respond to your question on the "Life Saver" video. I have NOT made a video dedicated to the Maxiclamps.
Really like your 'table' extenders! I.E. the boards you use to add more depth when using the table. Apparently they just fit between the tables! Very neat idea (worth another short UA-cam video??).
Thanks Bob! Yes the out riggers work well for me. I demonstrate them in this video. Table Saw Crosscut Sled: Large Panels Now Cut With No Problem
ua-cam.com/video/xcJ06tymhB4/v-deo.html
You could have used the legs with the wheels from your mark 5 and cut another tube for the base. i did that to my mark 5.
Yeah, a traditional "Shorty" makes sense to me too. Perhaps Tom can address his decision to go this route instead. Even so, great video on what you did, Tom. Scott
That's a great solution for anyone with the permanent floor space and who need their SPTs a little lower to the floor.
The chopped down keter gets the base about 5 inches or so higher off the ground as compared to the Mark 5. That is going to put my Band Saw, Belt Sander, Jointer, and Jig Saw at a much more comfortable working height for me as compared to the Mark 5 base and especially the shorter Power Station.
The shorty makes no sense to me given the few inches of permanent floor space that is recovered compared to the number of functions lost. The design of my Deputy folds up for winter parking with the Deputy living on top of the workbench where the Power Station once lived.
@@woodshopnerdery you have my approval. Why don't you each make me one and I'll pick it on on the 24th in Dayton.
Great vid and info. Interested in the adjustable outfeed mechanism?
Thanks Brian. The out feed table is an adjustable height work table from Home Depot, husky brand.
Please do a video showing this machine as a drill press and table saw. If both of these work good then this could fit my limited space. The standard machine simply is bigger than I have room for.
John, unfortunately the ShopDeputy, which is about 26 inches shorter than a full Shopsmith does not have the capacity for the main table carriage and so cannot be used as a a drill press or a table saw. You might want to look at what they call a "Shorty," which is a full size Shopsmith cut down by 14 inches. This video from Mike Young is a sales pitch really, but it will give you the idea what a Shorty is - ua-cam.com/video/F9GYYAlIVTM/v-deo.html
nerdery or genius, I vote genius for this project and video. I have some of the same spare shopsmith parts laying around. thanks for sharing. Curt, oh yeah from where I sit all your stuff is genius!
Thanks Curt!
How cool is that!!
Thanks John! Great thing about it is I can reverse the whole thing for a few dollars if I want. I think it will well out preform my PowerStation.
Would have though there would be a little wobble use those ends together. Well, proved me wrong.
I was not sure either but bolting it to the wood locked everything down.
Your right on the jointer with the dust chute under it not fit on the SPT’s.
Thanks Kirk.
I’ve been considering making my 500 into a deputy as well. Wondering why you didn’t use the Shopsmith Stand and casters though???
Hi Rob, I did not use the Shopsmith legs and casters for 2 reasons, 1. I wanted the working height to be about 4-5 inches taller to help my back and eyes and 2. when I pack the garage away so I can fit the cars in I have limited dedicated floor space. So, I need most of my tools store on top of the Mark 7 or on top of the Husky workbench at the back of the garage.
I had the same question, but I can see it has been answered :)
Did I miss the video on those out riggers for your table saw?
Albert I don’t have a specific video but I initially show them here ua-cam.com/video/xcJ06tymhB4/v-deo.html
Poor 'ol stubby had a ball,
Ten years later snubbed to wall,
Now he's shorter that's a fall,
Sand n' bandsaw tells it all
Not bad kid. :)
Thanks for the video. Did you buy the kit or just use a copy of the plans for the cut length? Just wondered why you didn’t use the tubes that come with the kit. Will you drill your crosscut sled support boards to work with your new Mark 7? Enjoyed the use of the Husky adjustable workbench. I can see that being useful to keep stacking parts straight from the table saw ready to roll to the next work station. Looking forward to your next video.
Thanks Larry. No, I did not buy the kit, but the plans can be downloaded for free from the Shopsmith web site. I put the link in the description of the video. I did already drill new hole for the Pro Fence table system in the supports and used them early on in this video. Thanks for watching!
@@woodshopnerdery Oops, I should have paid better attention to the 520 table setup. :)
I like that outfeed table at the start! Where can we find those? Been thinking of the same approach with my Mk V 500 manual headstock, after upgrading to the digital version.
Hi Ed, the outfeed table is from Home Depot it the Husky adjustable height work table. I have the 42 inch model.
@@woodshopnerdery Too Easy! Thanks!
Hey Tom, great video. Why didn’t you build a box as a mount instead of cutting down the work station, do you expect to change the SPT on the shop deputy or just leave it a band saw / sanding station.
Thank Dave. If I had the permanent floor space I would definitely have built a cabinet base for storage. But the Shop Deputy will have to stack on top of the workbench during the winter. Yes, I will swap out the SPTs and use it in the same manner as a power station.
That makes sense.
ok but you never explained what a shop deputy is? Just a shopsmith with shortened rails? I don't see any reason you couldn't still use the original stand.
Great job. I’ve been thinking about chopping my Mark V too. I have a 510 also. I’m so attached to my Mark V I’m a little gun shy to pull the trigger. The 510 table is much better so I don’t really need the 500 table. Maybe this is the way to go instead of a shorty. Curious as to why you didn’t use the 500 base with wheels to mount the deputy too? Again nice job.
Thanks Danny. I wanted my SPT tools to sit higher than they do on my Mark 5/7 base. The extra height helps my back and eyesight. Also, the system I designed lets me pack it up on top of my work bench in the winter so I can pull in two cars during heavy snow or these days extreme heat.
@@woodshopnerdery I use to put cars in the garage in the winter. Then I got a kerosene heater & well……
I like the repurposing of the headrests and base mounts.
I don't agree with the Shop Deputy concept in this situation.
I think it would have made more sense to make your Mark 5 into a Mark 4, with the 510 table system, and a shop built cabinet mounted underneath.
But hey, it's your shop, and your tools.
Thanks Chad. In my technical mind I do not consider a shortened Mark V or Mark 7 a "Mark 4." What makes a Mark 5/7 is the five/seven functions. And what makes the five/seven functions are the included attachments. Since the base Mark 4 comes with nothing, it should be called a Mark Zero. So, to convert a Mark 7 into a Mark 4 you would have to actually throw away all the accessories in addition to installing the shorter tubes. Other wise you just have a shortened Mark 7.
To try to explain my point of view, the way I look at the Shop Deputy is as a superior Power Station, which I am getting rid of this evening hopefully. I don't consider it just a smaller Mark 5/7.
@@woodshopnerdery Ok, call it what you will.
My point was I think a shorter Mark 5 would have been a better choice, to me.
I don't see how you're saving much more space with your Shop Deputy, and at the same time giving up the stability of the base of a Mark, and the opportunity to have a second machine with a main table. Which could come in handy is you wanted to do a quick table saw operation, while having your Mark 7 setup for something else, possibly a time consuming setup at that.
Plus, the option of extra storage by building cabinets attached to the base of the shortened Mark 5.
Those are just the opinions from a dumb old machinist.
@@chadnevels246 Chad, I agree with you on increased function but I think the issue here is storage space. With cars in garage the stand is folded up and the deputy sits on top of the Mark 7.
Frank gets it!
Great tip!
Nice, I made a “shorty” out of mine.
Cool, there are so many options available for old Shopsmiths. Nice part about is we can also always change it later to some other size if it does not work out.
Why didn’t you just make it into a Mark 4 using the existing legs and the height would be right.
I wanted it taller than the standard height to help my back and eyes. Also, I did not want to dedicate permanent my floor space.
Nicely done!! Why are SS people so weird?! We have a fantastic multi-tool that can do anything. We think the only thing that could be better is having multiple multi-tools!!
I speak from experience here :-). I have two 10ers and I'm always watching for a third. I paid only $20 a piece for the first two but times have changed....I might have to go $30 on number 3 :-).
Thanks Ray! Maybe it’s that a weird tool attracts weird people?