I Bought the Most Interesting BMW E34 535i Yet | Metric Mechanic M30B37 Stroker

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  • @teddyroweshow
    @teddyroweshow Місяць тому +44

    Cool find. I’m Theodore Rowe, I work for MM. If you ever need me, holla. 🍻 Great channel. Keep up the hard work.

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Місяць тому +9

      No way!!!! That is awesome! Thanks for dropping in Theodore!

  • @mro9466
    @mro9466 Місяць тому +55

    E34: the official channel

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Місяць тому +1

      Hahahah love this

    • @BerwhaleTheAvenger-b5s
      @BerwhaleTheAvenger-b5s Місяць тому

      @@m3nameisjosh464 You need to get yourself a euro E3 3.0Si. Better chassis than the E9, stiffer shell and a lower final drive. They didn't have an LSD but really need one.
      0-60 in about 7.7, 22 secs to 100 and a 15 sec quarter - that would be better with a slipper.
      You'd need a pre 76 car with D Jetronic, the 3.0CSi engine.

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Місяць тому

      @ 3.0si are practically extinct here it seems. Ive never seen one for sale!

    • @BerwhaleTheAvenger-b5s
      @BerwhaleTheAvenger-b5s Місяць тому

      @@m3nameisjosh464 I don't think they were sold in the US until 1976 - right at the end - when it got the L Jet engine with a lower CR, the 630CSi engine. Not the same at all.

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Місяць тому

      @ ahhh gotcha.

  • @JatsaMotors
    @JatsaMotors Місяць тому +21

    As a fellow E34 535i owner myself, I definitely approve of this purchase! I hadn't heard of Metric Mechanic before, so this video was really interesting. In the future, I plan to take a more conventional approach to gaining more horsepower by doing a turbo build :)

    • @merciless9285
      @merciless9285 Місяць тому +1

      I've seen some well built turbo m30s that are absolutely NASTY
      For what it's worth, I approve👍

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Місяць тому +1

      Turbo build is the key to real power!!

  • @Yappyboy11
    @Yappyboy11 Місяць тому +3

    Man this is cool to see MM content in 2024, my dad still wants to send his S38 out there for a build.

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Місяць тому +1

      @@Yappyboy11 See I knew it!! Its just not heard of as much as it used to be

  • @LanoCano
    @LanoCano Місяць тому +4

    Saw this thing for sale on marketplace, and I immediately thought this was up your alley. Glad it made it to the promised land.

  • @corusan2009
    @corusan2009 Місяць тому +12

    Classic Daily has a stand alone ECU system called the "Turkey and Cheese" I am using it in my M30b35 swap into my E3. Uses Motronic 1.3 harness and has a lot of tuning flexibility. Thank you for your videos.

    • @8t9
      @8t9 Місяць тому +1

      Same here, I use the turkey and cheese ECU on my own M20B25. Works fantastic, tunes with tuner studio. Has enabled me to put a wideband and individual coils also for example

    • @e28forever30
      @e28forever30 Місяць тому

      Interesting.
      Do you have a link for that?

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Місяць тому +1

      Definitely going to check them out!! Id like to try their ecu.

  • @tiitsaul9036
    @tiitsaul9036 Місяць тому +6

    M30 went to a single timing chain somewhere late 70s or early 80s.
    B35 came with double valve springs from factory.
    Nice buy

    • @Driftit
      @Driftit Місяць тому

      Yeah came here to say this too.

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Місяць тому

      Thanks for clarifying! Why would MM list those two things as if they are changed??

    • @tiitsaul9036
      @tiitsaul9036 Місяць тому +2

      @m3nameisjosh464 MM valve springs are probably stiffer and allow for more lift before coil bind than stock.
      I don't know if this engine has MM springs or stock. Both are double springs.
      If it has MM cam, I'd assume it has the spring upgrade as well. You can easily measure the cam lift and determine if it's stock or not.

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Місяць тому

      @ good idea! Thank you!

  • @Hama_19
    @Hama_19 Місяць тому +2

    I don’t care I love your videos i love bmw I love everything about this channel, and it’s first time hearing metric mechanic ❤

  • @oremarinkovic7925
    @oremarinkovic7925 28 днів тому

    I really became interested in E34s recently and just discovered your channel, good stuff. Keep up the good work!

  • @normiels3
    @normiels3 Місяць тому

    Another sweet find Josh.
    Love the period correct mods especially with the Dinan springs and 850 wheels. Very OEM+.

  • @E30Journey
    @E30Journey Місяць тому

    What a cool and fun car this will be! Glad to see MM in the comments too! I spent a lot of time talking to Jim at various points years ago - great that the business carries on!

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Місяць тому

      @@E30Journey that made my day to see them here! Cant believe it!

    • @E30Journey
      @E30Journey Місяць тому

      @@m3nameisjosh464 Jim is a great guy - generous with his time and a vast knowledge. Looking forward to the project!

  • @justinkababik
    @justinkababik Місяць тому

    Josh - Great to see you going down the M30 rabbit hole. Couple things to help. B35 is a single chain timing system. Most M30 cams don't have stamping. The M30 manual, uses a simple throttle position sensor. It's Idle, off idle, and WOT. Piggybacks from the 90s/00s suck. Ditch them as quickly as possible. I had a built NA M30, blueprinted and balanced 3.5, 93mm pistons, 9:1 CR, cam, Dinan intake, P&P, RD headers, MAF running from a Split Second piggyback and custom Autothority tuning producing 210rwhp/180tq, in 2001. With a new stand-alone, I wouldn't be surprised to see if this does more like 220rwhp/tq or maybe a little more.

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Місяць тому

      @@justinkababik thank you for the information Justin!!! Im still confused why the MM ad states single row chain as if it was changed. Going to ditch the piggyback for sure!

    • @justinkababik
      @justinkababik Місяць тому +1

      @@m3nameisjosh464 You're correct. Back in the day, MM engines were up there with a Dinan S3 build. $$$. There were other companies offering similar options. I was able to get my NA build M30 from Bavarian Engine Exchange for $4000 (2001 dollars). Intake manifold, MAF, and headers are not part of either of those prices. I did my NA build, knowing I was going Forced Induction the following year. So I did a mild cam and kept the CR at 9:1.
      A built M30 is a great sounding and driving engine. It has great feel for a vintage engine. But $/hp is very poor when compared to a turbo build or even a crate engine like an LSX.

  • @lukathegarlic
    @lukathegarlic 12 днів тому

    Check the spark plugs, wires, distributor/runner and the coil. Broken wires and a weak coil can cause the effects you noted: idles good but sputters under throttle, especially under throttle burst (short/impulse throttle actuation).

  • @TryingtoLookatLife
    @TryingtoLookatLife Місяць тому

    Always learning amazing things from your videos, Josh

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Місяць тому

      @@TryingtoLookatLife thank you!! Happy to teach!

  • @Shmee149
    @Shmee149 Місяць тому

    Fantastic episode! Didn't even know you have a channel!

  • @mikesphoenix_e46m3
    @mikesphoenix_e46m3 Місяць тому

    You never fail to disappoint josh what amazing find you have there think this might have to be a keeper aswell 😃

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Місяць тому +1

      Sometimes the best finds are right in front of ya!

  • @harveydolden8572
    @harveydolden8572 Місяць тому +2

    Yes! A big displacement m30! Would love that setup for my e28 😁

  • @devirkesici7096
    @devirkesici7096 Місяць тому +3

    It has a smooth idle. If there was an air leak, it would not start or should not have a smooth idle like M20s. It looks like a fuel issue because it bogges and becomes lean. Maybe you can find a stock ECU or other brands stroked ECU , delete the piggyback, and build your own standalone ECU after the engine gets into a healthy state.

    • @baba0rum
      @baba0rum Місяць тому

      Idle is indeed too smooth, the fact that it revs only by feathering the throttle make me also believe it's a fuel issue. Fpr, pump, filter (you'd be surprised), injectors

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Місяць тому

      Spot on guys! On a stock car id assume its hardware issues, but this car has ford maf with stock ecu, so they dont communicate. Car gets air and no computer to add fuel. Once piggyback is working i think itll be fine

  • @larulrich7417
    @larulrich7417 Місяць тому

    I was born in WA state and I didnt know that Euro cars werent as popular in other parts of the country. Theres always some weird gems out there that people somehow have held onto. Good find!

  • @marlou332
    @marlou332 Місяць тому

    Hi Josh, hope you're doing good, that's a great car you're showing us, can't wait to see more of it! I had exactly the same issue on my stock B35 as you're having with this engine, bad revving, backfires... Mine was running very rich in addition to that. I solve the revving and backfire problem by replacing the fuel pressure regulator, you should check it and try with another one and I'm pretty sure you'll solve this. thx for your videos that helped me a lot! Cya

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you for dropping in with advice!! I appreciate it!!

  • @FELIPE8226M
    @FELIPE8226M Місяць тому

    That’s pretty cool I actually saw this same car on marketplace for sale, I’m in western Washington.

  • @timelapsetheworld.
    @timelapsetheworld. Місяць тому

    This car is sick! Can't wait to see it running.

  • @dylanrc2994
    @dylanrc2994 23 дні тому

    Hi. Very interesting car! I didn't know about such modification)

  • @BerwhaleTheAvenger-b5s
    @BerwhaleTheAvenger-b5s Місяць тому +3

    M10's and M30's went from duplex to simplex chains in 1980.
    286 bhp? I'd want to see it on the dyno.......that's E28 S88 power, and an Alpina B10 did 260. Dunno!
    I'd start by refitting the correct air flow meter and ECU to start with just to get in running/driving.
    Looks a good car though.

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks for clarifying! But yeah 285hp claim. Probably 200 wheel😩

  • @12VDHuey
    @12VDHuey Місяць тому

    Very cool find, in great shape too! Stock B35s came with dual valve springs and single row timing chain.
    Take a look at your engine ground and inspect the Throttle position sensor, those 2 things gave me sputtery "off-on" throttle cut feeling at certain rpms before on my 535i.
    And check your crank position sensor, they can sometimes test good and still be faulty. The bracket that mounts it near Harmonic balancer has loosened up on me before lol, also giving me throttle similar symptoms.

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Місяць тому +1

      Ahh I was mistaking it with older m30s! Thats weird that their site lists it as single row chain and dual valve springs as if its any different than stock??

    • @12VDHuey
      @12VDHuey Місяць тому

      @@m3nameisjosh464 The earlier M30s, B32 and B34 had the single valve springs. Possibly other earlier M30s as well. I'm currently running HD single valve springs from bimmerheads with their 284 cam on my b35. They say that their single HD springs are rated the same as the stock b35 dual springs. I don't recall exactly which, but I think the euro b34s came with a dual row timing chain.

  • @e28forever30
    @e28forever30 Місяць тому

    Interesting M30 content, appreciate it!👍

  • @harrisongorman6484
    @harrisongorman6484 Місяць тому +1

    This is sort of what im trying to build right now. Those are style 9 wheels from an e31, I run em. They're great paired with general max 245/50 r16 summer tires
    91 535i I manual swapped in july
    Currently has stahl long tube headers with a turner chip.
    I got the headers from a m90 engine out of a euro e24. Its currently seized but i want to make a Frankenstein motor

  • @iadubber
    @iadubber 6 днів тому

    Sweet find!

  • @puttitat2851
    @puttitat2851 Місяць тому +1

    Congrats on an amazing purchase.
    Sounds almost like a lean pop - weak pump, clogged filter, bad fuel?

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Місяць тому

      Thanks!! Its a lean pop probably from the stock ecu not communicating with the ford maf

  • @fasttorquedrifter91
    @fasttorquedrifter91 Місяць тому +1

    Good candidate for supercharging bro...stroked 3.7 plus supercharger equals good power and plenty fun... otherwise it ain't gonna feel special the way it is... good purchase though 😉

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Місяць тому

      Ive never seen a supercharged M30?

    • @anthonyk
      @anthonyk Місяць тому

      Probably good torque also

  • @HorsedeadCowfat
    @HorsedeadCowfat Місяць тому +1

    Metric mechanic. I used to go through their catalog and daydream

  • @mikesphoenix_e46m3
    @mikesphoenix_e46m3 28 днів тому

    ⁠totally mate well done josh 😎👌

  • @carsaretrulyart
    @carsaretrulyart Місяць тому

    Love your content Josh!

  • @phoenix_plays_3515
    @phoenix_plays_3515 Місяць тому +1

    hey josh, that sounds exactly like my m30 if I unplug the AFM, it cant rev unless I ease into it, maybe there is something going on with that ford maf, maybe try swapping a stock m30 afm??

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Місяць тому

      Yeah you are right! The ford maf has nothing to read it because no tune left on piggy back

  • @dmvtechnology
    @dmvtechnology Місяць тому

    Maybe delete the piggyback, put your Megasquirt PNP2 from the ITB project on this motor, back up the ITB tune and see if it runs and drives nicely on a basic map? When youre done just chuck the ITB tune back on and pull it.
    Might have to temporarily put some known rate injectors and stock AFM on it to establish a baseline, but if you get a good result you havent had to buy anything or go down the rabbit hole with the piggyback 😁
    (Ramble) I temporarily installed a Haltech on a B35 last year after chasing a similar weird backfire/no rev/hot running issue for ages. Turned out to be a broken woodruff key on the balancer hub when i found the TDC offset that ran well wasn't the 'right' value 🫠
    PS love the vids Josh! From 🇦🇺

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Місяць тому

      Goood idea!! Id like to try this but if I lost my ITB tune I would cry😭😭 thinking about logging into the current piggyback and seeing whats up. Broken woodruff key! Sheeesh, thats a rare issue

  • @alvy1968
    @alvy1968 Місяць тому +1

    Isn't that a Miller maf they used a mustang maf. I had one on my euro M635csi with the M88/3 motor. Just took it off and went back to stock had issues with it runnning way to rich.

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Місяць тому +1

      Yup, Miller maf, ive heard bad things about them lol

  • @Stoney1985
    @Stoney1985 Місяць тому

    Fuel supply issue, sounds like its lean popping, check pressure and flow, regulstor, blocked injectors if its sat around for a while.
    Theres a few plug in standalone ecu options for the motronic 1.3 these days.

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Місяць тому

      100% agree. Doubt its hardware though, its definitely the lack of a tune to run the new maf. So can demands more fuel and nothing is telling it to supply it

    • @Stoney1985
      @Stoney1985 Місяць тому

      @m3nameisjosh464 a modern ecu will be such an improvement once you sort out all the mechanical basics initially, looking fwd to this, always had dreams of building my E34 535i in a similar way.

  • @alvy1968
    @alvy1968 Місяць тому +1

    Also the S38b35 in the U.S. M6 and M5 makes only 256hp. The M88/3 in the European market only M635csi and M5 makes 286hp.

  • @nickydarling5208
    @nickydarling5208 Місяць тому

    YAY E34 CONTENT

  • @Bryan2.0411
    @Bryan2.0411 Місяць тому +1

    Hey man. If it's a really deal Metric Mechaic's engine, then it's a gem. Ok, from stock 208 hp to 286? It doesn't seem like a whole lot especially for what one has to pay. You can take the easy way out by turbo charging but then what? You blow up the motor. I guarantee you that motor will last. After all it actually did after all over a decade or so? Keeping it simpler is better. As for that whole piggy back wiring thing? Rip that sh.t off and put it back to stock. Your benefit is at least putting a chip in the stock Motronic and let it rip which was well known in the day. 👌🏽👍🏽

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Місяць тому +1

      @@Bryan2.0411 its a pretty awesome HP bump. Most people mod M30s and make 10 more hp if lucky! Stock ecu cant run this properly though, i dont think B35 ecus could be chipped

  • @kushpaladin
    @kushpaladin Місяць тому

    sick. i had a m30 3.2 in my e23 733i 🙂

  • @juancorrea9037
    @juancorrea9037 Місяць тому

    Awesome find and in almost perfect condition. Why can I find one like that in Puerto Rico? Even the nonmodified ones that I've seen here for sale are crap. Only the e24's and e30's for sale here are well kept. E34's nah. Cant wait to see and hear it running good.

  • @rocketsalad
    @rocketsalad 29 днів тому

    Lean pop 100%. You're opening the throttle plate, but without an AFM to tell the DME how much air is going in, it doesn't know it needs more fuel and it goes big lean. Getting an AFM on there would be a good start, but check out that DME harness in the E-Box - half of the wires that used to go in the connector are now either running into the glovebox or over to that rats nest of splices... woof. Decipher this disasterpiece or just find a good used M30 harness and replace? Much to consider. Good luck 🫡

  • @Driftit
    @Driftit Місяць тому

    My M30 has a piggyback in the same manor. The tune will be loaded on the piggyback. Unlikely it has lost it. I have a MAPECU2. Have to connect to it via serial. Meant I could eliminate the MAF etc.

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Місяць тому

      Thats what I thought, very odd the piggyback has no memory of tune

    • @Driftit
      @Driftit Місяць тому

      @m3nameisjosh464 sometimes if they have sat for years with no power it can be a problem. I got warned about it but my car sat for 3.5 years while I was living in the US with no battery and it didn't lose it. Maybe someone cleared it for some reason though.

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Місяць тому

      @ interesting, maybe an inside job😳

    • @Driftit
      @Driftit Місяць тому

      @@m3nameisjosh464 tell me it is USB and not a serial cable like mine haha. I have an ancient laptop with Win XP on it as the dirvers don't work on anything else.

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Місяць тому

      @ i bet its a serial cable LOL

  • @mannine99
    @mannine99 Місяць тому

    very nice find

  • @msh4292
    @msh4292 Місяць тому

    Perfect power is from South Africa not sure if they still in existence

  • @courtneyshim3480
    @courtneyshim3480 Місяць тому

    Interesting stuff

  • @goonzzy556
    @goonzzy556 Місяць тому

    From what I know about piggy backs I know from my step dad who was around at that time is the ecu that is there is stock the modified tune is all on the piggy back this is old school to me but I would assume the stock ecu has no provisions for the maff that was on the piggy back and that’s why you’re car won’t rev because it’s getting a bunch of air it doesn’t know what to do with it can’t add enough fuel fast enough with the stock ecu you might get lucky you got 3 options a stand alone but you might get lucky and there is a way to use a ms41 or have someone in Europe who might be able to tune the stock ecu to work without a piggyback they got real good at tuning older bmw stock ecu over there but what I would do first again it would be a luck thing maybe you can find a used piggy back that it’s already wierd for and you would have to find someone who still tunes it look into all of them before you make your choice you might be able to save some time and effort without having to wire the whole car

    • @e28forever30
      @e28forever30 Місяць тому +1

      You might try interpunction sometimes…

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Місяць тому

      You’re totally right. Its the stock ecu unable to handle the ford maf. Im going to try and hook a computer into the piggyback and see if it comes alive

  • @thomasev1787
    @thomasev1787 Місяць тому

    Why did no US E34’s have rear headrests? 99% of Australia spec ones do

  • @RichardAube-f7w
    @RichardAube-f7w Місяць тому

    Fix the obvious intake leaks and then look into hooking up a laptop to that port...

  • @NXKIZJ
    @NXKIZJ Місяць тому +1

    holy fuck

  • @kjekken25
    @kjekken25 Місяць тому

    Would you ever consider selling this car and shipping it to europe?

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Місяць тому

      @@kjekken25 probably not, i have plans for it for a friend

  • @draggonhedd
    @draggonhedd Місяць тому

    I'd say just ditch the piggyback altogether and put something more modern on it. Also, where did you get that hoodie? I need one.

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Місяць тому

      @@draggonhedd agreed!
      And its my own hoodie!
      M3nameisjosh.com !!

  • @SV867
    @SV867 Місяць тому

    i wish i shopped around for a clean e34 instead of settling for an e90

  • @johanneslindemmann1660
    @johanneslindemmann1660 Місяць тому

    Please have a work table, dont put tools allover the windshield ect, its not worth it to be hacky
    Also that seat is crying to have that box removed … sweet car

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Місяць тому

      @@johanneslindemmann1660 I am after all a backyard mechanic😩

  • @enjoythehunt5135
    @enjoythehunt5135 Місяць тому +1

    M30 FTW!!!! Your gonna love that torque.. you think m3s got it.. sheet

  • @youtubenocapjordan8543
    @youtubenocapjordan8543 Місяць тому

    get the euro e34 524 td to complete the collection

  • @urmaritoryoutube8559
    @urmaritoryoutube8559 Місяць тому +1

    💪😎👍

  • @bricklawson9745
    @bricklawson9745 Місяць тому

    Cool car.
    I'm impressed with its condition after all these years. The owner did a good job taking care of it.

  • @Vivianauxito
    @Vivianauxito Місяць тому

    Another solid video, Bro. Just straight to the point with everything! We released a portable air pump. Can we invite you as a collaborator to do a review? If so,How can we connect with you?