"I don't think Brazil was overrated, I just think they were totally underprepared for the tournament." So basically, you overestimated their ability to prepare for the tournament, and therefore overrated them. Lol, Wyatt. Plat Chat WAY overrated Brazil; they got stomped by NA and EU, and they even lost to a minnow region in LATAM.
I think the reason SEN players didn't know about the Tenz signing was to keep the pressure low. If all the players knew about the signing, they might be even more pressured to perform well to show the signing was worth it.
We can't really say that yet. Both EU teams made it to top 2-4, while V1 didn't and Sentinels won the whole thing. Having 1# team doesn't mean that the region is best. But its clear that at this current time NA and EU are above other regions.
Contrarily to what Wyatt said, Derke actually did get shut down by Liquid as well even though Fnatic did win the match as well. And Scream called it before as well he said "we are going to shut down Derke" and they did. Maybe what Derke does was actually readable all along.
Derke reminds me of jamppi a lot, but far more consistent for sure. Derke totally dominated v1, kru, NU but was shut down by TL and Sen. He needed to hold himself back and cut the aggression, what works against a team wouldn’t work against others. I used to think he is like tenz but tenz has changed his playstyle completely this tourney and rarely does individual plays or “I will challenge you” kind of plays, Derke needs to read the enemy and understand which playstyle suits which team and adapt.
I wonder if the popularity of mobile games comes from the fact that every family member has a smartphone but there is probably only one gaming pc in a lot families. So kids stick to what is accessible to them.
Lack of players in sk might be because some of them are in Japanese orgs? I know for apex lots of Koreans are in Japanese teams and I know of two rly talented players on NTH valorant team in Japan. It’s likely that Japanese orgs for valorant currently pay a lot more than korean orgs
I'm from India, and Valorant is *really* popular with people here. Like, extremely so- it's capturing a huge audience that CS:GO only semi-successfully captured. I think putting Valorant on mobile will absolutely catapult it into the stratosphere here the way PUBG mobile did.
Guys you need to talk about T1 and frost. Also the EU shuffle going on rn, sad to see you guys not touching on any of that. Hopefully in the next episode.
I feel like EU teams are great at attack (protocols) but it's a crutch and can't play as reactive thus their defense is not as good. Example split. In NA it's defense heavy yet in EU that map somehow is attack heavy
The thing about these teams is that they represent their regions and had to go against teams from their region to qualify, liquid and fnatic beat all the big teams they keep talking about, same for NU, they beat VS, same thing for sentinels and v1, they are not sample sizes, they went through a lot of teams to come on top and represent their regions, sentinels for example losing to bbg made them go down to lower bracket, and they faced what seemed to me like 90% of NA top teams and made it all the way to the upper bracket and won it all, fnatic as well they said before they made a lower bracket run as well, to me the teams that went to Iceland deserved to be there no excuses
I think korea is going to be a regions that looks scary going forward. Not immediately but by the tourney after Berlin I'd say they'll have a team that will be a contender
Quote me on this mobile gaming is a huge thing in Asia. If they release it in China and south asia too, valorant mobile will blow pc valorant out the water. It's what happened with pubg, the mobile version now OWNS the pc version 😂😂
My question about Valorant mobile is will there be cross play and aim assist? I hope that if there is aim assist there will not be cross play so we don't have the issue that fortnite had where people complained about the controller players having aim assist. Over all, I think that Valorant coming to mobile is a good idea to help bring it to other markets and might bring in new people to Valorant esport.
While it might look ridiculous, if Valorant Mobile pop off and there will be an esports of it, players are going to turn their phone around like wtf are they doing you might wonder. That is because they are using gyros in the game (3:04) and players who are using gyros are fucking nuts like in PUBGM
I'm glad Korea did really well in Master's because Brazil really had an underwelming performance compared to their performance in Brazil qualifiers similar to Turkey in EMEAs qualifier.
Imagine how stacked sentinels are these guys didn't even mention Zombs, Dapr and Sick and they all can go to any other team and be their best player instantly especially Sick
Octopus Omen is a meme , at least to this point. Omen's split is theoretically a radianite experiment gone wrong while he and some of the other agents were at Kingdom. I imagine Cynprel would come on for a portion of a podcast to sum up the lore if you were interested.
Josh being confused by a possible octopus that speaks theory in a game where much crazier shit happens is hilarious and I fully support the omen octopus reveal
People are against a game going mobile because they think it tarnishes the "essence" of the game somehow. Like how people think sequels ruin original movies.
NA is not better than EU because of their small sample size, but how can you say EU is better than NA? Lol. I think both NA and EU stand above all the other regions, neither of them are really much better than the other. The only concrete thing I’d say is SEN is the best team in the world.
I feel like NA will only be good at the start when Valorant is still pretty new but once the other regions figure out the defined/ideal meta, NA will fall flat similar to other esports.
As a Brazillian, i love the respect that u guys gave to us when analizing the Masters campaign. I think its because Balla was not in that conversation, that guy is a hater. :) Thanks guys.
Korea won’t be a contender just based on the mathematics of how many people play the game, its not even at a 1% in pc bangs, where is the talent gonna come from? NA, EU will have a way bigger talent pool to draw from as time goes on, if Valorant’s popular doesn’t increase in Korea I don’t see it happening, I’ve kept a look at the public pc bang data since masters ended and Valorant has still not entered the top 10 which would be around 1% play rate, for reference OW is around 5% and LoL is around 48%
YESSS FINALLY SEANS BACK! get him as a semi regular geust please!!
id love to see him for each episode that recaps a major, he has really good insight on the international scene
Can confirm I only started watching ShahZam after TenZ was brought into the team and now i enjoy all the players in the team!
Sean is by far one of the best people to have on the show
Sean: Their communication is on point
Also Sentinels: His stuck in a wall. Im stuck in a wall.
Bad comms now 🥲
wait i just realized that the glow/aura around the other-world phoenix could be the color you choose to highlight enemies in-game
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I can really feel the momentum building for liquids first major title.
When does TSM play? They're my favourite team
Sean is such a great addition to the show!
Tenz has the power of anime on his side, which means he delivers on the final match of Tournament Arc
Poggers
"I don't think Brazil was overrated, I just think they were totally underprepared for the tournament." So basically, you overestimated their ability to prepare for the tournament, and therefore overrated them. Lol, Wyatt. Plat Chat WAY overrated Brazil; they got stomped by NA and EU, and they even lost to a minnow region in LATAM.
yeah rare L for Wyatt
gl also didn't qual
definitely agreed, this was a big miss by plat chat guys
Plat chat is simply unbelievable
I think the reason SEN players didn't know about the Tenz signing was to keep the pressure low. If all the players knew about the signing, they might be even more pressured to perform well to show the signing was worth it.
lets face it, NA is just the best region in Valorant
We can't really say that yet. Both EU teams made it to top 2-4, while V1 didn't and Sentinels won the whole thing. Having 1# team doesn't mean that the region is best. But its clear that at this current time NA and EU are above other regions.
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NA is simply unbelievable. You can feel the momentum building for them to become the best region.
@@benique1417 NA is always the best region in video games until everyone else takes it seriously and they fall behind
Funny thing being here after everything that was the rest of 2021 and all of 2022 and all of 2023 and now winning a masters in 2024
Contrarily to what Wyatt said, Derke actually did get shut down by Liquid as well even though Fnatic did win the match as well. And Scream called it before as well he said "we are going to shut down Derke" and they did. Maybe what Derke does was actually readable all along.
Derke reminds me of jamppi a lot, but far more consistent for sure. Derke totally dominated v1, kru, NU but was shut down by TL and Sen. He needed to hold himself back and cut the aggression, what works against a team wouldn’t work against others. I used to think he is like tenz but tenz has changed his playstyle completely this tourney and rarely does individual plays or “I will challenge you” kind of plays, Derke needs to read the enemy and understand which playstyle suits which team and adapt.
Yea, as an EU fan I was kinda disappointed by Derke basically only relying on skill diffing, he gotta change his approach going into Stage 3 IMHO
I wonder if the popularity of mobile games comes from the fact that every family member has a smartphone but there is probably only one gaming pc in a lot families. So kids stick to what is accessible to them.
MAKE MORE PODCASTS WITH SEAN PLSSSS
Lack of players in sk might be because some of them are in Japanese orgs? I know for apex lots of Koreans are in Japanese teams and I know of two rly talented players on NTH valorant team in Japan. It’s likely that Japanese orgs for valorant currently pay a lot more than korean orgs
2 years later and val still aint on mobile and im not complaining 😂😂
I'm from India, and Valorant is *really* popular with people here. Like, extremely so- it's capturing a huge audience that CS:GO only semi-successfully captured. I think putting Valorant on mobile will absolutely catapult it into the stratosphere here the way PUBG mobile did.
Guys you need to talk about T1 and frost. Also the EU shuffle going on rn, sad to see you guys not touching on any of that. Hopefully in the next episode.
Actually there was fanfic cs lore back in the 1.5/1.6 days I use to read that shit and yes it was dark. 😂
literally what
The people want power rankings
Community engagement
I was about to riot with no weekly award
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I feel like EU teams are great at attack (protocols) but it's a crutch and can't play as reactive thus their defense is not as good. Example split. In NA it's defense heavy yet in EU that map somehow is attack heavy
I definitely put TenZ Shahz and sick as the best players in the world/game I put shahz there because of his igling skills
Lmao Sean wouldnt be saying that he needs a proper sample size to gauge between regions strengths if EU would've won. Sounds like pure copium to me.
Wasn’t one of his points tho that NA is a lot shallower than EU
The thing about these teams is that they represent their regions and had to go against teams from their region to qualify, liquid and fnatic beat all the big teams they keep talking about, same for NU, they beat VS, same thing for sentinels and v1, they are not sample sizes, they went through a lot of teams to come on top and represent their regions, sentinels for example losing to bbg made them go down to lower bracket, and they faced what seemed to me like 90% of NA top teams and made it all the way to the upper bracket and won it all, fnatic as well they said before they made a lower bracket run as well, to me the teams that went to Iceland deserved to be there no excuses
I think korea is going to be a regions that looks scary going forward. Not immediately but by the tourney after Berlin I'd say they'll have a team that will be a contender
Sen didnt age well
@@serenalaurence1492 yep
Quote me on this mobile gaming is a huge thing in Asia. If they release it in China and south asia too, valorant mobile will blow pc valorant out the water. It's what happened with pubg, the mobile version now OWNS the pc version 😂😂
Can't disagree with that
Pubg playercount ~ 400k
Pubg mobile playercount ~ 1 billion
👁️👄👁️
They on that valorant copium
My question about Valorant mobile is will there be cross play and aim assist? I hope that if there is aim assist there will not be cross play so we don't have the issue that fortnite had where people complained about the controller players having aim assist.
Over all, I think that Valorant coming to mobile is a good idea to help bring it to other markets and might bring in new people to Valorant esport.
It is confirmed that there will be no crossplatform / crossplay
@@deniellesam ok thanks.
BALLA'S CAT SIGHTING
TIME STAMP?!
@@chuckhaller3842 4:02
@@chuckhaller3842 ALSO 1:14:20 (bonus cat sighting)
...and 2:22:56 ! Lots of cat content
@@hacksawdragon you are a national treasure
EU and NA are neck and neck except for Sentinels who are just better than everyone right now
pennys also
While it might look ridiculous, if Valorant Mobile pop off and there will be an esports of it, players are going to turn their phone around like wtf are they doing you might wonder. That is because they are using gyros in the game (3:04) and players who are using gyros are fucking nuts like in PUBGM
Get Sean G back on for backchat Lore
I'm glad Korea did really well in Master's because Brazil really had an underwelming performance compared to their performance in Brazil qualifiers similar to Turkey in EMEAs qualifier.
CSGO 24mil active users
Dota 10mil active users
Valorant 14mil active users
League 130mil active users... How?
Asia.
The game is REALLY popular in Asia compared to NA
lol can also be ran on a potato, so that helps it...
The league active user counts are probably bullshit and have probably been bullshit, the only high numbers I believe are mobile games and minecraft
@@marLamaDeo league is huge in Asia and eu
Imagine how stacked sentinels are these guys didn't even mention Zombs, Dapr and Sick and they all can go to any other team and be their best player instantly especially Sick
Octopus Omen is a meme , at least to this point. Omen's split is theoretically a radianite experiment gone wrong while he and some of the other agents were at Kingdom. I imagine Cynprel would come on for a portion of a podcast to sum up the lore if you were interested.
Josh being confused by a possible octopus that speaks theory in a game where much crazier shit happens is hilarious and I fully support the omen octopus reveal
As a former league player, I like watching people being so blown away by the amount of lore and cinematic work coming from riot.
When you realise foxz is the closest to tenz for FKPR : FDPR🤔 foxz gonna be the next big star?
Idgaf if there is a mobile version as long as there is no cross platform play between PC and mobile
Sean straight up guzzling EU copium
The way Sentinels are playing gives me Season 1 NYXL vibes.
Whenever I want to take a nap I watch you guys no offense keep up the good work
TenZ with the anime buff, waiting for next week's episode
Anywhere we can watch the vids of you casting Iceland?
Now who's laughing at Sean preferring FPX ahahaha
"FPX is better than FNATIC" KEKW
Loved the episode and can’t wait for all the roster talk next week :)
People are against a game going mobile because they think it tarnishes the "essence" of the game somehow. Like how people think sequels ruin original movies.
NA is not better than EU because of their small sample size, but how can you say EU is better than NA? Lol. I think both NA and EU stand above all the other regions, neither of them are really much better than the other. The only concrete thing I’d say is SEN is the best team in the world.
Remember when NA wasn't so FREE
I feel like NA will only be good at the start when Valorant is still pretty new but once the other regions figure out the defined/ideal meta, NA will fall flat similar to other esports.
vanity player of the tournament
Comment for algorithm
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Balla is a 100T simp xD xD
shaz robbed
cool episode
Sean is so cute
As a Brazillian, i love the respect that u guys gave to us when analizing the Masters campaign. I think its because Balla was not in that conversation, that guy is a hater. :) Thanks guys.
bruh :)
@@Ballatw pain
@@HiddenRevs english is not their first language there, i think. No need to attack his spelling.
What website do you use for the stats?
Vlr.gg
Love when Gares is on!
Mobile? Valorant console when? Lol
does wyatt hate sean
I want to see a cage match between the two.
SEntinels >EU>>NA
Korea won’t be a contender just based on the mathematics of how many people play the game, its not even at a 1% in pc bangs, where is the talent gonna come from? NA, EU will have a way bigger talent pool to draw from as time goes on, if Valorant’s popular doesn’t increase in Korea I don’t see it happening, I’ve kept a look at the public pc bang data since masters ended and Valorant has still not entered the top 10 which would be around 1% play rate, for reference OW is around 5% and LoL is around 48%