Yep, definitely a scary lap, you really are out in the elements in an Atom. For once I can see the benefit of flappy paddles for gear change, that car was quite skatey at speed and even with some warmth in those tyres. I also noticed many times where he was in top gear and must have been approaching redline, but no more speed to give. Very lively lap, well done.
ive owned a VW .:R32 MKV and it came with a dual clutch auto and paddle shifters, im used to having a 3rd pedal and rowing gears. let me tell you those dual clutch autos are amazing. they get boring after a while BUT it lets you make moves you wouldnt be able to or confident to if you had to clutch and shift. its alot safer too. BUT the THRILL of driving is GONE you just mash and steer. the "oh shit " moments are gone. ive moved on to a Stage 3+ Ford Focus ST(wanted a stick, leather recaros, and boost) and wouldnt want to drive it if it was a auto.
He is sort of approaching redline. He at MANY points was what they call on the chip. His RPM limiter (chip) was engaged for absurd amounts of time. Dude likes to party for sure.
I estimate that it is about a 9 minute full Nuremberg Ring lap. Like other guys mentioned it could use better gearing and a few other things to tune it better for the run. Still a fun about half run to watch. Having a passenger makes a big difference in light weight vehicles like the atom.
TrackandTuner records a very scary lap onboard a Turbo Charged Ariel Atom. The Ariel Atom is a fast pocket rocket, with no windscreen and no body. This owner took it up another level by putting on a big Turbo, getting over 450HP from this very little car. I stepped in with my helmet on to experience the very fun lap. But I must say, that the Ariel Atom might be the scariest car to take on the Nordschleife. What car would be the scariest car on the Nordschleife?
I have driven a supercharged Atom (300bhp, with additional brake upgrade) round a small track, it was insanely quick 😊. I can imagine how much fun this beast was.
Yeah I think his lines in the beginning were untidy because he must of been concentrating on catching those cars that left early in front of him. Anyway his lines looked great after that 👍
20 seconds on a track is a long way down the road. Whilst the Atom was sitting the 911 was hammering down the road. In fact, the 911 would probably be 1k down the road before the Atom left.
@@BatMan-oe2gh 20 seconds on a 20.8 km track is only roughly a 3 mph / 5 kph average speed difference to catch up. The Atom just wasn't faster. Still scary though considering the wide open cockpit.
Ugh, it's hard to watch with the rev-limiter on so much but I agree, if you geared it appropriately you would need to be a very, very, VERY good driver to wring it out. Welcome to the limit!
A decent gearbox with not so close ratios is called for and maybe dct with paddles. Driver with titanium balls this guy he deserves a machine where his untold skill would benefit from a sorted car. Great video
There was another Ariel Atom out there a year or so ago, running a Chevy ZL1 Supercharged 6.2L, the video is still on youtube and that guy could drive it hard!! He passed every car or bike he came up on and the only other player was a ZL1 Corvette that was out there, they took turns out front and no one passed either of them.....
It's difficult to imagine that a human being actually said, "This Ariel Atom needs more power." Enough gearing to properly exploit the motor would be suicidal.
Over a 21km lap of the Nordschleife the atom didn’t catch the black muscle coupe 01:55 or the white porch 02:09 seen heading onto the tracks . They must have been going some stink as well!
Did he blow the exhaust in Mutkurve? I've had the exhaust crack on a Mugen Edition Ariel Atom and it kind of sounded like that. (It wasn't mine, and hats off to anyone who dares push an Atom this hard on an unforgiving track like the Nordschleife. It is definitively not an easy car to drive fast)
Scary lap - right... The car already slips away with the rear axle when turning, without the driver accelerating. Something urgently needs to be done about the setup here.
Needs a lot more gear and a lot more tire, the rear end is trying to push past the front end, no front end grip and 15 miles on limiter cant be good for the valve springs
Ha, Im just a Internet Genius, Meaning I have Zero idea what to do, but I watch a lot of you tube, so that makes me smart :) First of all the car is all the cool, just needs to be sorted for higher speeds. As many other posts say, it clearly needs more gear because its on the limiter all the time. Anyway, I look forward to seeing it again
Sorry Th X There are multiple reasons for a RWD rear engine car to exhibit varying degrees of oversteer that DON'T involve the throttle on acceleration, and many of them don't indicate an issue with the car setup. The atom chassis and suspension is pretty sorted out, but it will definitely favor a little oversteer and get just a tiny bit tail happy in the corners when pushed to the absolute limit. It Dosen't matter how perfect the suspension setup is. Yes, all 4 tend to break loose at the same time, (indicitive of a well sorted suspension setup) but... the rears will rotate more than the fronts in a 4 wheel slide... because the engine is in the back of the vehicle, and the car weighs nothing . The lotus 7s And caterhams exhibit similar behavior when driven hard. Its just a characteristic of rear engine, rear wheel drive lightweight track cars. As long as the driver is skilled, and doesn't let it get away from him - a little counter steer to arrest the pendulum effect will sort it out and no "problems" will result. Its an expected condition in this type of car when driving it to its absolute limit of grip. Big dave, you are partially correct - wider rubber up front, or staggering compounds could delay the effect - but it won't really stop it. It'll just make the car even faster through the corner before grip is lost, all 4 will slide and it'll do the same thing... just at a higher speed.
It looked pretty in control to me. This isn't a criticism, just an observation, but I found it interesting that whenever you had oversteer in a right hand bend, you took your left hand off the wheel. As soon as the car goes neutral, you loosen your grip ready to remove the hand, and then when it transitions to oversteer, the hand comes off completely. Is this because of limited space in the cockpit to move your left arm? For oversteer in left hand bends, both hands stay on.
Some people in the comments saying it needs this and that, they don't understand power to weight ratio. Nore do they understand how easy a high revving turbo car spins up
Perhaps upgrading tire width and compound would help on cornering abit but holy hell what a beast, I only remember how fun it was to slap a turbo on Ariel in Forza lol but tricky drive with its snappiness lol
It's my understanding that you get three laps on a scheduled day and time, rain or shine (snow, I don't think so?), if you don't make it (without canceling or rescheduling in time), you'll need to reschedule at an additional cost? ;-)
Think you should tune the gearing differently for this track, so many fast parts that isn't utilized properly, becuase the final gear doesn't reach high enough speeds to keep climbing.
I think with having no windscreen or roof that's way faster than I'd wanna go in that. Must of been super scary 😂 does sound bit off though when at redline don't sound right
The driver didn't seem to be fighting the car as much as I've seen on videos of Caterhams driving the Nordschleife. Anyone know where this car tops out?
Did you consider wider wheels? I see it already has an aero kit for more down force and grip but those wheels... too narrow for such a powerful engine. Don't you think so?
What a symphony, you get to hear intake noises right next to your head and the constant whining and blowing off from the turbo. After having had a Super7 the Atom would have been the next choice - can't get them road legal anymore though. What was that transmission originally planned for? Sounds more like ratios for mountain sprint races - poor baby is running out of top gear way too early. Which also can be said about the lap - you know that having LAP in the title and then not showing the full lap is almost a felony! (battery done?)
My coworker has a 512 CI cobra replica... It runs but has some fine tuning issues with it until its 100%. I swear he is gonna kill himself in that thing.
LOL @ scary that was positively sedate, it only tried to get away from him 3x really. Now me trying to do the same, that would be terrifying, if not deadly. Great driver!
Great drive in an awesome car! The people commenting about gearing and tyres, while valid for Nurburgring, are maybe not considering that this is a road car and such changes would be detrimental to the cars use in other circumstances.
you nailed it. Who wants to gear a car for 150+ while you (almost) never drive it like that. I'd rather have a lotus that is a fun daily driver than a dedicated track car.
It's comforting to see that people ambling in front of moving cars is an international phenomenon.
At least it's not goats and chickens too
Right? I thought it was just a ghetto goblin kind of thing
@@tf7274 Not a lot of difference in behaviour tbh.
The trust on the car and the driver after all these corrections on each corner is marvelous. A scary lap indeed. What a driver.
Amazing vehicle, but it seems like it requires some additional gears 💪
Or a dif rear end
Needs wider and better tires.
I initially thought the same thing, but you'll notice on an uphill section it couldn't maintain its RPM in top.
And the rest of the lap.
@@brucelamberton8819 But it can't get more speed on flats or downhills. One more gear will save SEVERAL seconds on the long straights.
Driver knows his stuff. Thoroughly enjoyed this
thanks
Yep, definitely a scary lap, you really are out in the elements in an Atom. For once I can see the benefit of flappy paddles for gear change, that car was quite skatey at speed and even with some warmth in those tyres. I also noticed many times where he was in top gear and must have been approaching redline, but no more speed to give. Very lively lap, well done.
ive owned a VW .:R32 MKV and it came with a dual clutch auto and paddle shifters, im used to having a 3rd pedal and rowing gears. let me tell you those dual clutch autos are amazing. they get boring after a while BUT it lets you make moves you wouldnt be able to or confident to if you had to clutch and shift. its alot safer too. BUT the THRILL of driving is GONE you just mash and steer. the "oh shit " moments are gone. ive moved on to a Stage 3+ Ford Focus ST(wanted a stick, leather recaros, and boost) and wouldnt want to drive it if it was a auto.
Ariel Atom V8 with paddle shifting is so much better than this model.
He is sort of approaching redline. He at MANY points was what they call on the chip. His RPM limiter (chip) was engaged for absurd amounts of time. Dude likes to party for sure.
what a blast. I am still on the edge of my seat
Well, that looked pretty exciting for the passenger! Excellent driving. On the limit for most corners. Wrong gearing for that track though.
I estimate that it is about a 9 minute full Nuremberg Ring lap. Like other guys mentioned it could use better gearing and a few other things to tune it better for the run. Still a fun about half run to watch. Having a passenger makes a big difference in light weight vehicles like the atom.
These things are amazing at the best of times but hearing that spinny boi getting involved clearly made quite a lot of difference!
Go kart?
That’s not a go kart!
THIS is a go kart !!
All that speed with no comforts of home.. Great lap!
scary
The most beautiful 'circuit' in the world.
The prospect of near certain death in the event of a mishap must add greatly to the excitement.
TrackandTuner records a very scary lap onboard a Turbo Charged Ariel Atom. The Ariel Atom is a fast pocket rocket, with no windscreen and no body. This owner took it up another level by putting on a big Turbo, getting over 450HP from this very little car.
I stepped in with my helmet on to experience the very fun lap. But I must say, that the Ariel Atom might be the scariest car to take on the Nordschleife.
What car would be the scariest car on the Nordschleife?
The scariest car on the track would be my 235,000 mile, 20 year old golf diesel.
I have driven a supercharged Atom (300bhp, with additional brake upgrade) round a small track, it was insanely quick 😊.
I can imagine how much fun this beast was.
A Reliant Robin ;-)
I think that the white 911 that was 20 seconds in front of the Atom,...but was not even in sight during the entire run must be more scary..
My dad’s 74 Pinto hatchback.
that beast needs another gear!
Another 2 gears
Open cockpit high-speed car, no windscreen - no gloves ? No firesuit ? Great driving !!
Fire suit? U need a wing suit!
Pretty awesome how he keeps the right gearing to keep it in boost through the twists and turns
And then runs out of gear on the long bits.....
1:55 it looks like a dark grey nsx (?) goes past. What happened to it because I didn’t see it being overtaken?
Much higher top speed plus head start.
That dude knows how to drive that car with them skinny tires perfectly
I was hoping he was going to catch up to that white car.The white car must have been moving pretty fast too.
Porsche, yeah that's pretty fast also
Yeah I think his lines in the beginning were untidy because he must of been concentrating on catching those cars that left early in front of him. Anyway his lines looked great after that 👍
20 seconds on a track is a long way down the road. Whilst the Atom was sitting the 911 was hammering down the road. In fact, the 911 would probably be 1k down the road before the Atom left.
@@BatMan-oe2gh 20 seconds on a 20.8 km track is only roughly a 3 mph / 5 kph average speed difference to catch up. The Atom just wasn't faster. Still scary though considering the wide open cockpit.
Ugh, it's hard to watch with the rev-limiter on so much but I agree, if you geared it appropriately you would need to be a very, very, VERY good driver to wring it out. Welcome to the limit!
A decent gearbox with not so close ratios is called for and maybe dct with paddles. Driver with titanium balls this guy he deserves a machine where his untold skill would benefit from a sorted car. Great video
Nice lap. I spilled my coffee and fell out of my recliner watching this!
nordschleife in this is a basically heaven.
Skip ahead to 2:30, that's when the actual lap begins. Impressive little car!
Thanks!
The other atoms that we've seen they don't seem to make tire noise is there a different rubber that they are using.
Voll der Hammer und Verdammt gute Straßenlage das Teil.
There was another Ariel Atom out there a year or so ago, running a Chevy ZL1 Supercharged 6.2L, the video is still on youtube and that guy could drive it hard!! He passed every car or bike he came up on and the only other player was a ZL1 Corvette that was out there, they took turns out front and no one passed either of them.....
big balls for that
Could you find me that video? I can't find it :/
@@Kerbhunter_Alex ua-cam.com/video/IVEWS5m8SBI/v-deo.html
@@TrackandTuner ua-cam.com/video/oYZs7Ta2SSk/v-deo.html @sebastianvittel Is the original uploader. He is an excellent driver.
It's difficult to imagine that a human being actually said, "This Ariel Atom needs more power." Enough gearing to properly exploit the motor would be suicidal.
Sounded like it needed one more gear. Was on the rev limiter. Any idea what speed he was going in top gear?
bahahahaha
And maybe more grip too.
Is that a harmonic wave I hear forming at the mouth of the intake ram?
Over a 21km lap of the Nordschleife the atom didn’t catch the black muscle coupe 01:55 or the white porch 02:09 seen heading onto the tracks . They must have been going some stink as well!
No traffic. I smell a rat.
0:23 The 1990's called and wants its turbo kit with blue silicone couplers and hardware store hose clamps back.
Wow, that driver knows his car. That was a seriously hot lap. Time for taller gears.
That's not scary, that my kind of hot lap 🔥
Did he blow the exhaust in Mutkurve? I've had the exhaust crack on a Mugen Edition Ariel Atom and it kind of sounded like that.
(It wasn't mine, and hats off to anyone who dares push an Atom this hard on an unforgiving track like the Nordschleife. It is definitively not an easy car to drive fast)
Scary lap - right... The car already slips away with the rear axle when turning, without the driver accelerating. Something urgently needs to be done about the setup here.
Lift off oversteer?
Needs a lot more gear and a lot more tire, the rear end is trying to push past the front end, no front end grip and 15 miles on limiter cant be good for the valve springs
Ha, Im just a Internet Genius, Meaning I have Zero idea what to do, but I watch a lot of you tube, so that makes me smart :)
First of all the car is all the cool, just needs to be sorted for higher speeds. As many other posts say, it clearly needs more gear because its on the limiter all the time. Anyway, I look forward to seeing it again
Sorry Th X
There are multiple reasons for a RWD rear engine car to exhibit varying degrees of oversteer that DON'T involve the throttle on acceleration, and many of them don't indicate an issue with the car setup.
The atom chassis and suspension is pretty sorted out, but it will definitely favor a little oversteer and get just a tiny bit tail happy in the corners when pushed to the absolute limit.
It Dosen't matter how perfect the suspension setup is. Yes, all 4 tend to break loose at the same time, (indicitive of a well sorted suspension setup) but... the rears will rotate more than the fronts in a 4 wheel slide... because the engine is in the back of the vehicle, and the car weighs nothing .
The lotus 7s And caterhams exhibit similar behavior when driven hard. Its just a characteristic of rear engine, rear wheel drive lightweight track cars.
As long as the driver is skilled, and doesn't let it get away from him - a little counter steer to arrest the pendulum effect will sort it out and no "problems" will result.
Its an expected condition in this type of car when driving it to its absolute limit of grip.
Big dave, you are partially correct - wider rubber up front, or staggering compounds could delay the effect - but it won't really stop it.
It'll just make the car even faster through the corner before grip is lost, all 4 will slide and it'll do the same thing... just at a higher speed.
Lovely. Is it revving out at maximum speed?
Pretty obviously
@@twoeyedbob Or just a misfire. It is not so obvious for an ignoramus like me.
It looked pretty in control to me. This isn't a criticism, just an observation, but I found it interesting that whenever you had oversteer in a right hand bend, you took your left hand off the wheel. As soon as the car goes neutral, you loosen your grip ready to remove the hand, and then when it transitions to oversteer, the hand comes off completely. Is this because of limited space in the cockpit to move your left arm? For oversteer in left hand bends, both hands stay on.
I saw the same thing in the very first right hander and thought well that's a bit too casual of a grip for this car
Мало кто из зрителей понимает, насколько это экстремально.
И - динамика отличная, но максималка маловата для этой трассы. Корвет и Порше не догнал ).
I watched the other Atom vs the 600hp Vette and it seemed much stickier and didn't top out nearly as quickly. Different set up I guess.
Alot more power getting to max speed faster.
This one has a big ass turbo.
Dude, hitting the rev limiter in the 6th gear... Epic!
Correct short gearing
Yes but 2 seconds for every gear. Blistering acceleration.
It sounded like you were up against the rev limiter in top. Was that so? Maybe a higher ratio diff?
More gear and bigger tyres, what a weapon!
I won't mention about the short ratio, everyone else seems to have covered that, but good god that thing sounds awesome!
You just did 😂😂😂
@@peterherrington3300 true😂
This is an amazing video it captures your senses that you can feel what you are seeing, Damn Good 👍
I played this back audio only just listening to the spool up. Wow
Some people in the comments saying it needs this and that, they don't understand power to weight ratio. Nore do they understand how easy a high revving turbo car spins up
I love the Ariel atom ever since I saw it on top gear back in the day
Is that a speed limiter or is it bouncing off the limiter?
Do they have a racing circuit for these vehicles?
Is this car set up for the street or the track? Does it have a quick change differential?
Do you not need to make that final gear taller? The engine seems like it’s got more to give.
Could the speed and revs be displayed?
Perhaps upgrading tire width and compound would help on cornering abit but holy hell what a beast, I only remember how fun it was to slap a turbo on Ariel in Forza lol but tricky drive with its snappiness lol
It's my understanding that you get three laps on a scheduled day and time, rain or shine (snow, I don't think so?), if you don't make it (without canceling or rescheduling in time), you'll need to reschedule at an additional cost? ;-)
Think you should tune the gearing differently for this track, so many fast parts that isn't utilized properly, becuase the final gear doesn't reach high enough speeds to keep climbing.
Very impressive! Definitely could do with an extra gear but amazing job and great commitment.
Sounds like it had a rev limiter on at full throttle?
that first slide is enough for me to watch :O
Does that have a Honda K series in it?
Did it not make the whole lap?
Great footege! Really scary driving! What didi u use to record sound; in such a speed no wind noise at all 🤗
External mic
What is the quality of the radio?
I think with having no windscreen or roof that's way faster than I'd wanna go in that. Must of been super scary 😂 does sound bit off though when at redline don't sound right
That Porsche was amazing, damn fine car.
Great video. A speedometer display would have been nice.
Balls of steel. Jeez that driver is confident. Props to that guy!!!!
What did you get for a lap time? Cool car
Does this machine hit 300kph on straight aways?
This looks absolutely terrifying! I wanna ride along. 😂
That legit gave me agida!
ものすごい加速だ！😲
映像も音も迫力がある！見ていて興奮した！😆
Crazy. Sounds like a gearing change at top gear needs to be made
this was one wicked mean ride, wow
The driver didn't seem to be fighting the car as much as I've seen on videos of Caterhams driving the Nordschleife. Anyone know where this car tops out?
You ever drove home whilst turtling? Will that plus this track and you'll get the keep record for sure
Camera prob with the officials?
Indeed he asked if all was well fitted. As you can see in our video's we have done this a lot.
@@rickadelic1 They do seem a bit of the fun police with atoms. What with the quick release steering wheels...
Man, you need to change the gearing, rev-limiter in top most of the time.....
Seems way under geared. Proper soft compound slicks needed apparently, either that or a better setup.
Need better tyres and warm up the ones you have before launching into it. Sick car though, I had the first Gen 3 out of the factory.
why is the gearing so short?
what is top speed of this
Did you consider wider wheels? I see it already has an aero kit for more down force and grip but those wheels... too narrow for such a powerful engine. Don't you think so?
Not that easy on an Ariel
@@TrackandTuner Really? It's just a performance kit. Obviously it will not probably be street legal, but for racing
Fantastic, I think it needs more rubber on the ground!
Good driving job, hit all apexes and shifts.
hell of a go kart you have there.
Anyone know what it has for a powerplant?
That turbo is pure music! Great driving chops!!
Don’t know the hearing set up but needs more than 3 gears 😂
What was his speed when hitting the rev limiter?
Max speed bro?
Absolute rocket ship
What a symphony, you get to hear intake noises right next to your head and the constant whining and blowing off from the turbo. After having had a Super7 the Atom would have been the next choice - can't get them road legal anymore though. What was that transmission originally planned for? Sounds more like ratios for mountain sprint races - poor baby is running out of top gear way too early. Which also can be said about the lap - you know that having LAP in the title and then not showing the full lap is almost a felony! (battery done?)
Yes Gopro gave up :(
Nice work son. No roll cage. May it never be needed.
It is wearing Red Bull paint job and logos. Was it simply sponsored by Red Bull or is it owned by them?
Serious tyre problems, or suspension setup woes? Terminal understeer plus gearing too low wasn't too impressed.
In action, THE MIRACLE OF POWER TO WEIGHT RATIO!!!!
A supercharged AC Cobra might be scarier. A lot more power and sketchier handling. That would try and kill you in ever corner.
My coworker has a 512 CI cobra replica... It runs but has some fine tuning issues with it until its 100%. I swear he is gonna kill himself in that thing.
Opppssss. Someone doesn't know what power to weight ratio is
@@dickfitzwelliner2807 I don't think you know how light an AC cobra is lol.
LOL @ scary that was positively sedate, it only tried to get away from him 3x really. Now me trying to do the same, that would be terrifying, if not deadly. Great driver!
Great drive in an awesome car!
The people commenting about gearing and tyres, while valid for Nurburgring, are maybe not considering that this is a road car and such changes would be detrimental to the cars use in other circumstances.
you nailed it. Who wants to gear a car for 150+ while you (almost) never drive it like that. I'd rather have a lotus that is a fun daily driver than a dedicated track car.
How many Atoms run at that track?
No one