Kukaku and Ganjo treated Ichigo like family from the beginning. I think Isshin asked Kukaku to keep an eye on Ichigo. All of the Shibas are friendly brawlers.
Yes that sounds about right. Would not mind if somewhere along the line in the saga we get a full on Shiba family reunion with both the main players and others whom we don't know.
@@imsentinelprime9279 well we still have the hell arc incoming so don't cross her and Shiba Clan out yet cause we only have seen small glimpses of their power
They just noticed the resemblance, his brashness and mingling with/ befriending everyone even if he didn't know he was royalty. It's the main Shiba trait. How interesting that Yoruichi herself shares this free mentality in contrast to her family who are conformists to the point of self harm. That's why she gets on perfectly with the Shibas.
I think kukaku said isshin should be sad because going to the royal palace means having to get a zanpakuto and can only get one by learning about his origins meaning isshin having to relive the love of his wife and her death by telling him. They probably knew what happened
If memory serves correct, Toshiro and Rangiku particularly reacted to sensing Ichigo's reiatsu after using Bankai on Sokyoku Hill. They probably felt the similarity then.
Yes I want to see it so badly. Like Isshin is such a mysterious character and so is the Shiba clan, where we know how they were casted out. I just need to see some wholesome reunions
Looks aren't enough to solidify an answer. Reitsu on the other hand is very telling as is the Zanpakuto similar name as both Kekaku and Toshiro Matsumoto sensed
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so we got this person i know knows my uncle who we all know is trapped in the world of the living. one of the 3 soul reapers i know, comes back with a random 4th soul reaper that no one knows and needs to sneak into the seireitei. annnd he happens to look a lot like my brother and acts just like us and doesnt know it. yea, thats my uncles kid. cool. its not that farfetched. imagine most of your friends and family live in the united states. one day you hear a story about your uncle who visited africa and got stuck there then decided to make a life there. 16 yrs later, one of the family friends that also lives in africa comes to the family house and says oh hey i got this random 16 yr old and we are just making a pit stop here until we get where we need to go. you see he acts just like his father which is funny cause all the men in the family act similarly. and boom it clicks! oh this my nephew. sweet. not gonna spring that surprise on him if he doesnt already know tho.
She definitely knew there was a possibility that he would become the soul king. Which was touched on in CFYW the noble clans know more details about the soul king.
@@ClulssCrs3310great grandmother was a Shihoin. No way would Yoruichi be allowed to train another Noble House, Byakuya and Ichigo unless they were related. Chika and the other Heads could have more than one wife who had other children. Urahara could be Yoruichi Brother since they were in the same house with Tessai,and Tessai and Urahara are not Nobles under the Shihoin House officially and they are one day apart in age
My thought considering the answer is this: If Kukaku was able to identify Ichigo as being related to the Shiba family by his reitsu then was she also able to identify a family relation to the Quincy? Was she able to identify the hollow component of Ichigo's reitsu? Also, who else was able to immediately identify Ichigo's family connections by his reitsu? The more people who were able to identify Ichigo's Shinigami (Shiba specifically), Quincy and Hollow heritage the more interesting all of those early interactions between Ichigo and others become.
Yamamoto got to know who Ichigo was too, with all that spiritual power that resembles Isshin (even Byakuya came to that realization) not to mention Isshin disappearance. He was no fool. I think he knew that Isshin had hook up with a Quincy and just let it slide or was told to do so by the monk by order of the reio himself who saw everything. Its odd that he never searched for Isshin. He also knew that Ichigo had white in him and that himself would end up in hell. He carried a lot of secrets to his grave
Let me guess, we're going off of CFYOW material, right? Because it only made sense that people particularly close to Isshin would know of Ichigo's lineage as Kisuke wouldn't blab about that to just any and everyone. Neither would Ichigo, himself.
I wish they both were, tbh. Ganju from the Shiba side. Ginjo from the Kurosaki side. The series makes more sense if we removed TYBW and the Quincy, and the FB arc was the final storyline. It becomes more personal if A: Isshin was the Shinigami worked with the OG Fullbringers (establishing the origin of Ginjo's beef with him), B: Masaki herself was a Fullbringer and that's how she and Isshin met. Which makes the entire arc not just an ideological conflict: Its Ichigo's two families, the thing he defines himself by, literally at war with itself. And if Masaki were a Fullbringer, it would help re-contextualise the relationship between Ichigo and Aizen in a nice neat package. Perhaps Masaki possessed a SK fragment significantly powerful enough to attract Aizen's attention. Aizen stole it to empower his Hyogoku, leaving her weakened and vulnerable to Grand Fisher. And with Aizen's defeat and sealing, Ichigo can find peace learning he'd retroactively avenged his mother's death. And the convoluted Quincy rubbish can stay in the bin where it belongs.
I mean, there is a long span of time that Kukaku and Ganju could have been informed about their uncle and his family prior to the events of TTYBW. It really isn't that far-fetched that they would know by then.
I dont think Toshiro or Makimoto could even sense Isshin through his gigai. Wasn't that one of the big selling points? I dont recall, but i dont remember the 3 coming into contact at all
Those gigai only surpress their spiritual power. If you're in a close enough vicinity, you can still sense traces of their power. Misaki sensed this on Kisuke when she pumped into him during Everything But The Rain. And Orihime and Chad sensed this with Shinji after he attempted to recruit Ichigo at their school.
Kukaku and Ganjo knew he was Kaien reborn, they could sense it and reincarnation is a concept that was brought up during the start of the story as a basic understanding for Shinigami, I've had this talk before with you and Takihata101 before, he IS Kaien and he always was, there's actually many direct references to him being Kaien during the first 30 chapters, much love buddy.
I dont think this is possible cuz aaroniero (espada) still had Kaien's soul in him when he fought rukia (after ichigo was born). I think the resemblance/references is cuz of their family relationship.
@@auriels1451 He only had his memories, Aaroniero specifically said the body arrived without a soul. It's definitely Kaien his soul went to earth as white. aaroniero mentions that Aizen had experimental hollows designed to die so their soul could be experimented on, I think people just missed it, but Tite's intentions seem pretty clear. The notion of people transitioning between the soul society and earth through life, death and reincarnation has been discussed at a few points in the manga. There's early references made by Byakuya and Jushiro questioning if he's that same man and if they could feel it his cousin/siblings definitely could tell, Ganjo makes a comment in the BloodWar arc, he knew.
@@auriels1451 In the eastern mythology the soul is actually composed of many pieces usually 7. In many stories when a person dies parts of their soul breaks apart and some of it reincarnates some of it goes to heaven and some hell. Many stories have used the plot line of having to rejoin the souls. Technically it can be both.
@@mokeish Interesting! Shall keep an eye out next time I rewatch the series! Idk if reincarnation is a thing in bleach tho - my understanding is degrade to reishi > reishi used to form new life in human world. But i am not 100% sure on this. Keen to watch again and see :)
Kukaku and Ganjo treated Ichigo like family from the beginning.
I think Isshin asked Kukaku to keep an eye on Ichigo.
All of the Shibas are friendly brawlers.
Yes that sounds about right. Would not mind if somewhere along the line in the saga we get a full on Shiba family reunion with both the main players and others whom we don't know.
@@manuelacosta9463 let's hope that on cour 3 or 4
Shame she essentially gets written out of the story after a short while.
@@imsentinelprime9279 well we still have the hell arc incoming so don't cross her and Shiba Clan out yet cause we only have seen small glimpses of their power
@ eh I’m not holding my breath, kubo has gone multiple arcs completely forgetting about kukaku and ichigos other cousins,
They just noticed the resemblance, his brashness and mingling with/ befriending everyone even if he didn't know he was royalty. It's the main Shiba trait. How interesting that Yoruichi herself shares this free mentality in contrast to her family who are conformists to the point of self harm. That's why she gets on perfectly with the Shibas.
Not to mention, Ichigo literally looks like Kaien.
I think kukaku said isshin should be sad because going to the royal palace means having to get a zanpakuto and can only get one by learning about his origins meaning isshin having to relive the love of his wife and her death by telling him. They probably knew what happened
If memory serves correct, Toshiro and Rangiku particularly reacted to sensing Ichigo's reiatsu after using Bankai on Sokyoku Hill. They probably felt the similarity then.
oh yeah there's that too!
Zangetsu and Engetsu has some similar properties
id like if someone could ask kubo if kukaku and ganju have ever visited ichigo and issin in the human world, maybe get to meet yuzu and karin too
Yes I want to see it so badly. Like Isshin is such a mysterious character and so is the Shiba clan, where we know how they were casted out. I just need to see some wholesome reunions
He looked like her brother
Looks aren't enough to solidify an answer. Reitsu on the other hand is very telling as is the Zanpakuto similar name as both Kekaku and Toshiro Matsumoto sensed
Yup.
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Sure is crazy that new kid running around town is using Getsuga Tenshō a move only used by our form 10th Squad Captain! What a mystery this is!
Ichigo literally looks like Kaien.
so we got this person i know knows my uncle who we all know is trapped in the world of the living. one of the 3 soul reapers i know, comes back with a random 4th soul reaper that no one knows and needs to sneak into the seireitei. annnd he happens to look a lot like my brother and acts just like us and doesnt know it.
yea, thats my uncles kid. cool.
its not that farfetched.
imagine most of your friends and family live in the united states. one day you hear a story about your uncle who visited africa and got stuck there then decided to make a life there. 16 yrs later, one of the family friends that also lives in africa comes to the family house and says oh hey i got this random 16 yr old and we are just making a pit stop here until we get where we need to go.
you see he acts just like his father which is funny cause all the men in the family act similarly. and boom it clicks! oh this my nephew. sweet. not gonna spring that surprise on him if he doesnt already know tho.
She definitely knew there was a possibility that he would become the soul king. Which was touched on in CFYW the noble clans know more details about the soul king.
I like this....I'd like to know about the other character's who were familiar with the Shiba clan, especially the other nobles.
I'm under the impression that Ichigo and Ichika are named after their Great Grand Father Chika Shihoin
Ichika's grandfather is a Kuchiki.
but rukia is adopted into the kuchiki family, her parents are not kuchiki, neither are renjis, so ichikas grandfather is unknown @@ClulssCrs3310
@@ClulssCrs3310great grandmother was a Shihoin. No way would Yoruichi be allowed to train another Noble House, Byakuya and Ichigo unless they were related. Chika and the other Heads could have more than one wife who had other children. Urahara could be Yoruichi Brother since they were in the same house with Tessai,and Tessai and Urahara are not Nobles under the Shihoin House officially and they are one day apart in age
@@ClulssCrs3310 and Byakuya as head of the House named her, at Six months as is the tradition
@@nodatastored684 you first say grandfather now you change to grandmother... You are confusing youself.
Huh a random question but it’s fun that Kubo actually gave a reason lol
Was it not that he’s the spitting image of young Isshin and Kaien?
I always wanted to know this ty
My thought considering the answer is this: If Kukaku was able to identify Ichigo as being related to the Shiba family by his reitsu then was she also able to identify a family relation to the Quincy? Was she able to identify the hollow component of Ichigo's reitsu? Also, who else was able to immediately identify Ichigo's family connections by his reitsu? The more people who were able to identify Ichigo's Shinigami (Shiba specifically), Quincy and Hollow heritage the more interesting all of those early interactions between Ichigo and others become.
Yamamoto got to know who Ichigo was too, with all that spiritual power that resembles Isshin (even Byakuya came to that realization) not to mention Isshin disappearance. He was no fool. I think he knew that Isshin had hook up with a Quincy and just let it slide or was told to do so by the monk by order of the reio himself who saw everything. Its odd that he never searched for Isshin. He also knew that Ichigo had white in him and that himself would end up in hell. He carried a lot of secrets to his grave
Let me guess, we're going off of CFYOW material, right? Because it only made sense that people particularly close to Isshin would know of Ichigo's lineage as Kisuke wouldn't blab about that to just any and everyone. Neither would Ichigo, himself.
This is reason kukaku help ichigo for rukia rescue mission
And Kaien and kukaku look like kurosaki karin
Another question to ask is if Kukaku was in the gotei 13 at the same time Isshin was.
I think kenpachi kuruyashiki may have been a shiba, potentially kukaku and ganjus father/grandfather
I wish it was Ginjo that was ichigos cousin instead of Ganju
I wish they both were, tbh. Ganju from the Shiba side. Ginjo from the Kurosaki side.
The series makes more sense if we removed TYBW and the Quincy, and the FB arc was the final storyline. It becomes more personal if A: Isshin was the Shinigami worked with the OG Fullbringers (establishing the origin of Ginjo's beef with him), B: Masaki herself was a Fullbringer and that's how she and Isshin met.
Which makes the entire arc not just an ideological conflict: Its Ichigo's two families, the thing he defines himself by, literally at war with itself.
And if Masaki were a Fullbringer, it would help re-contextualise the relationship between Ichigo and Aizen in a nice neat package. Perhaps Masaki possessed a SK fragment significantly powerful enough to attract Aizen's attention. Aizen stole it to empower his Hyogoku, leaving her weakened and vulnerable to Grand Fisher. And with Aizen's defeat and sealing, Ichigo can find peace learning he'd retroactively avenged his mother's death.
And the convoluted Quincy rubbish can stay in the bin where it belongs.
@@Aurora-313 Very cool concepts
I mean, there is a long span of time that Kukaku and Ganju could have been informed about their uncle and his family prior to the events of TTYBW. It really isn't that far-fetched that they would know by then.
he was identical to Kaien
I dont think Toshiro or Makimoto could even sense Isshin through his gigai. Wasn't that one of the big selling points? I dont recall, but i dont remember the 3 coming into contact at all
Those gigai only surpress their spiritual power. If you're in a close enough vicinity, you can still sense traces of their power. Misaki sensed this on Kisuke when she pumped into him during Everything But The Rain. And Orihime and Chad sensed this with Shinji after he attempted to recruit Ichigo at their school.
Ichigo does even know that ishida is his brother, forget about them 💀
If he had black hair like Kaien, anyone would see the resemblance
Kukaku and Ganjo knew he was Kaien reborn, they could sense it and reincarnation is a concept that was brought up during the start of the story as a basic understanding for Shinigami, I've had this talk before with you and Takihata101 before, he IS Kaien and he always was, there's actually many direct references to him being Kaien during the first 30 chapters, much love buddy.
Yeah, I'm 110% certain he was meant to be Kaien's reincarnation before Kubo got lost up his own backside.
I dont think this is possible cuz aaroniero (espada) still had Kaien's soul in him when he fought rukia (after ichigo was born). I think the resemblance/references is cuz of their family relationship.
@@auriels1451 He only had his memories, Aaroniero specifically said the body arrived without a soul. It's definitely Kaien his soul went to earth as white. aaroniero mentions that Aizen had experimental hollows designed to die so their soul could be experimented on, I think people just missed it, but Tite's intentions seem pretty clear. The notion of people transitioning between the soul society and earth through life, death and reincarnation has been discussed at a few points in the manga. There's early references made by Byakuya and Jushiro questioning if he's that same man and if they could feel it his cousin/siblings definitely could tell, Ganjo makes a comment in the BloodWar arc, he knew.
@@auriels1451 In the eastern mythology the soul is actually composed of many pieces usually 7. In many stories when a person dies parts of their soul breaks apart and some of it reincarnates some of it goes to heaven and some hell. Many stories have used the plot line of having to rejoin the souls. Technically it can be both.
@@mokeish Interesting! Shall keep an eye out next time I rewatch the series! Idk if reincarnation is a thing in bleach tho - my understanding is degrade to reishi > reishi used to form new life in human world. But i am not 100% sure on this. Keen to watch again and see :)
Kayn asat
Ichigos dumb. I doubt he realizes they're his cousins 😂
He knows
@@joefloggg3257I don’t remember ever there being a moment where ichigo acknowledges them as relatives.