The plants in garden warfare just felt more alive and fun. The shooting felt better and more satisfying. Every plant and zombie were balanced and fun to play, and most important, garden warfare had variants.
Yes until bfn came out it isn't even the same anymore they added extra health FOR NO REASON and added this bs superbrains ability that cost 300 stars which ruins everyone's fun
I mean, i haven't played BFN but i gotta say GW2 is just really damn good lol, it truly stands up to today's standards, no wonder you can still find full lobbies with little effort, it is quite a gem
As a OG garden warfare 1 player and a collector of all 3 games I say Bfn is trash They change so many things look what they do to torchwood- I mean oak why the hell is rose like that and why does citron have a giant shield why does peashooter have blue eyes and looks like a alien HELP ME
I preferred the old graphics because they look just overall better imo. I also think the old graphics worked better because they appealed more to both audiences (kids and adults) alike.
Personaly I like the BFN art style because the hyper-realism they were trying to go for in GW and GW2 was a bit much for me when I was younger, and first impressions make a difference.
I think its kinda sad how in BFN they made the characters and abilities more cartoonish but the surroundings better... it just doesnt fit the game world... GW2 has beautiful characters and abilities and a absolutly stunning slightly cartoonish world around that is just beautifull and there was no reason to change that :)
We can all agree gw2 was a perfect game they didnt need to change anything. Upgrading the engine expanding the backyard and adding more challenges maps and variants maybe a new class or two and then even better
@@pretendtheresaname9213 I mean, I also hope that the new classes won't never come back. I feel like that variants for Acorn, Nightcap, Snapdragon, Iceberg Lettuce(it did never come out, but its progress was good enough that I'm gonna count it) Wildflower, Space Cadet, 80s Action Hero, Electric Slide, Wizard, and TV Head could exist and work well. *But for the love of god, they shouldn't bring back the reward-o-tron.* And if they do, they should make it like the sticker packs and not just random items for random categories.
It’s like they made it both more realistic and cartoony at the same time, and while it does appeal to kids, it can most definitely appeal to adults too :)
Tbh, all of these comparisons are good and all, but the fact chomper was supposed to be a stealth character, and then make his burrow like as loud as hell, it's as if nightcap was the new chomper, but weaker
Yeah they hear me coming and since mobility has gone up and the lack of a back chomp makes getting kills actually harder at times, also I miss fire chomp or hot rod chomp
@@questerer1 hell no. You would never see a chomper as a top player in the leaderboard. Trying to survive while chewing a zombie was pretty much impossible unless you had the hot rod, which only had 125 hp. They were only op in 1v1s, and i wouldn't even say they were op because of it since that was the whole point of the plant
@@hoesmad7689 Chomper has a kill wich doesn't allow for revives. That alone should be a big warning of a character that can be overpowered... For that reason in BFN there is only 1 ability for doing that kill. In GW2 there are 2 ways of doing that.
When I saw gameplay of BFN I thought the same thing, although at that time it was like early access or something and I just assumed it was going to be polished. Don’t get me wrong some of the things in BFN look good, but I feel some of the UIs and characters are just missing the same stylization that the gw series (and even the main series) is iconic for. I’ve never played BFN but from what I’ve seen - it’s not bad. It’s just not GW even though it’s so comparable to GW. It looked like they wanted to distance themselves just for the sake of being different.
@@SSS_413 Well if you have PS Plus BFN is going free tmrw as a monthly game so I suggest try it out as i’ll probably see whether i enjoy it or not as both GW1 and 2 I loved so much and both games I have platinum and spent soo many hours on
The whole game needs work, so does GW2. But Popcap doesn't give enough of a shit so they left that game to dead, it's almost like both games have similar problems.
devs dropped the game after 6 months kinda hard to enjoy a game that they clearly didnt care about. bfn was a last minute cash grab for a dying series. fucking tragic cuz i loved the games so much but bfn was such a massive letdown. maybe if corona didnt happen we woulda seen more dev livestreams. shame they went radiosilent when they went into quarantine : ^)
In GW 2 it felt like you are free to choose what ever class you want. In BFN it felt like it forces you to play a certain class to balance out an already imbalanced class system.
Bfn is not too bad, honestly it would have been better if they'd put variants and perks and create even more personalization I don't think the game is bad, I think that it is weaker than its predecessors
yeah, it feels like an oddball frankenstein of all the previous Garden Warfare games, but everything is lesser. Garden and Graveyard Ops are back, but you can't queue for a specific map or team, you can't select your difficulty unless you're in a private match, and they are only 5 waves instead of 10. I feel I have more control over the tide of battle thanks to the enhanced movement and 8 player lobbies, but it results in games feeling less chaotic with longer moments of downtime. Character variants aren't in this one, but there are different weapon types that you can give to characters, but they don't change how the characters or their weapons appear so enemy and weapon readability is out the window (Not to mention that only a small fraction of the roster actually have unlock-able weapon types, which is reeks of "god they really didnt have much development time at all did they"). I personally really like this game, I feel I have more control of how the game progresses and plays, but golly it's lesser in almost every way. i wish the folks at Popcap had more time to work on it because it came and went like a breeze :((
I like the more cartoony style of Bfn, tho i would like for classes too be added, those are my favourite thing about Gw2, and i think since bfn was the first one that i knew and played i kinda got attached more.(also idk why but Gw2 cactus creeps me out a bit)
Why EA... just why. In my opinion GW 2 is still superior in almost every aspect aside from a couple changes that could’ve just been a big update for GW 2 or the release of GW 3. Someone please tell me otherwise. *like brah citron* 🤧
@TIM ok WTH the first guy who commented told me it was because of popcap, and now you are saying it’s because of EA... so who is to blame here? Should I just blame them both?
I feel like all the plants and zombies are so much more appealing in the garden warfare games, bfn has some good mechanics, but it doesn't surpass the old games. Though, I do really like the team work bfn tries to encourage (like space cadets being able to attach to one another, wizards being able to attach to other zombies, acorns being able to stack together) those examples would of been so fun in the garden warfare games
They could have fleshed out the graphics and details in bfn but they went for a simple style and I can’t really blame them it looks nice and simple in bfn.
The problem with BfN's graphics wasn't that it was cartoony. It was that it lacked charm. It tried too hard to fit into the regular PvZ game's art styles and as a result didn't feel unique, whereas Garden Warfare 1 and 2 did something different with their graphics and made their own style
Eh, that's questionable, imo the worst thing about bfn is how the hitboxes aren't as accurate as GW if you're shooting enemies from afar, chances are you'll barely hit, which takes a toll on the gameplay and makes it more boring
Gw2 definitely had better maps and gameplay but i loved bfn art style like it is how PvZ supposed to be like, they are supposed to be a funny chaotic cartoonish shooter like they aren’t supposed to be realistic. Though this has exception to gw1 which had a better realistic art style than gw2. The biggest reason i think why bfn has less player was that they dumped the character system where there are no more fire type or ice type of that specific character which sucks a lot and if they manages to merge the old characters in with the bfn art style then yes bfn would be better than its current state
*What did they do to my girl...* Unlike most people, I'm okay with Rose's redesign in BfN, though admittedly the original design is better, with the bigger head, eyes being closer to each other, the sparkly purple cloak, etc.
@@handsomeoz9248 Indeed. She got some solid skins and cosmetics. People often use her as the butt of BFN's "bad redesigns" jokes, but as I said, I'm alright with it. I said the top line as a sorta joke
you know BFN would be good if they slowly added variants like little updates 1 variant every 2 weeks would be amazing. If only they slowly made the game better by adding in things that had good reactions and removing the things people didn't like the game would be genuinely AMAZING but its EA they only care about money not about happiness 😢
For those of you complaining about graphics, they probably made graphics more "cartoony" to make them animate more smoothly, before the models were a little too realistic and "stiff" to make them stretch and bend like they do in bfn, and Thats the best part about bfn, it feels new, garden warfare 1 and 2 used basically the same animations models and gw2 only added new characters, hardly a difference between gw1 and 2 models with everyone having the exact same abilities too. But bfn is from the ground up, no character is exactly the same, the closest we got is soldier having the same abilities, but every other character got somthing new. new animations, models, and abilities, and besides, if you dislike a game for the graphics you probably shouldn't criticize games, not every game has to be realistic, you're gonna sit here and complain about graphics on a game thats litteraly about sentient plants fighting ZOMBIES. Games are not all about graphics
Yeah also bfn actually has other maps to explore and GW2 just had the main map and GW1 didn’t even have a map I don’t think I think it just had all the normal options
What really grinds my gears is they took out the variants and wasted all the time, effort, and resources to make the snap dragon which in my opinion is a fire variant chomper
To be honest I don’t understand why people hate on bfn so much. The Artstyle migt be different than the one from the Garden Warfare games but I think it doesn’t look bad at all. I like how most characters are balanced unlike in GW2 and the perks may be not that great but I think it is a concept just as okay as variants, who provoked pay2win and made Garden Warfare 2 extremely unbalanced. I also prefer the new maps over the Garden Warfare ones because no longer are they only takeover after takeover, but also have payload tasks. The singleplayer in my opinion is far better aswell. Only having 3 different maps may not be alot but they all provide a cool story, a big layout and are overall fun and rewarding. Garden Warfare 2 only had the backyard which was great aswell but I felt like it didn’t provide this much after all.
Honestly nothing makes sense in this, the plants are big as hell, chomper literally digests anything and mostly everything and is taller than you that’s just the start, personally I’ve never seen the “realistic” aspect but gw2 was better cause everyone was fair and OP at once and you can play however you see fit and do good, now you actually have to worry about your build rather than I wanna be a fire cactus than a alien sunflower.
Considero que los mapas del PvZ BFN son mucho más bonitos que el de PvZ GW 2, pero me gustan mucho más los diseños de personaje del PvZ GW 2 que el de PvZ BFN
I can't be the only one who thinks all star especially feels way weaker His bullet spread and clunkier movements take away the fun from using him in the original Not to mention the tackle ability is pathetic compared it it's original counterpart
how two play chomper in bfn 1. bait your opponent some where far away or hide in a corner but make sure the opponent is alone 2.goop 3.burrow 4. run away 5. Repeat
@guesst 326 I do too. The old art style looked too realistic (it’s supposed to be based of the first PvZ game’s artstyle). I real like how the characters look in bfn besides rose, super brainz and the scientist’s goggles
Depends how you see it. Gw 2 was going for a more realistic look and bfn looks like plastic. The models in gw2 look more detailed. Bfn is still good graphically but not as good as gw2.
@Dev King well some people say Minecraft has bad graphics because of a lot of cubes but it’s the bestselling game which was Tetris for the longest time
I can imagine a serious FBI agent walking up to a booth of pvzs and trying to make small talk, while still maintaining a unsettling level of composure.
I like bfn more you can customize you’re characters a lot more depending on your play style and it’s not much different besides combat and graphics and the fact that there’s no variants but I honestly could care less about variants I feel like people just likes unlocking different looking versions or ones that were gonna make the game easier for them but you can still get costumes in BFN and cosmetics too at the same time, and man the upgrading system is just really nice each of my characters are unique and I have one for each game mode
You can really tell who abused Citron and all of the fire and ice variant characters just by reading the comments. That's why they did away with variants and certain abilities. They made it more balanced so you tool bags couldn't abuse specific characters. Even now, literally everyone uses Chomper, Snapdragon, Nightcap, Foot soldier, and Space Cadet all the time. I'll continue to say it. You can tell which characters are broken because people will abuse them the most.
Plants VS Zombies Battle for Neighborville is garbage. I would know because I have it. The combat system is based on who can hit the most shots while bunny hopping around and spamming abilities that the players need to abuse not to be terrible. There was NO reason to remove variants, they could’ve just introduced new variants while rebalancing the old ones. But instead, they had to remove every subclass and introduce a pathetic upgrade system and a sprint system which removes the purpose of Hyper, Engi’s jackhammer, etc. To replace them with shit like hover, which makes peashooter float midair HOWEVER peashooter has HORRIBLE air speed while hovering and is a sitting duck.
When the game that came out 4 years ago has more players than its “sequel”...
Really gw2 has more players than bfn
Is that true ?
@@brandonchavez4901 idk
Brandon Chavez seems to be, I can find full lobbies easily in GW2 but I can’t find a single match in BFN
the fuck no it didn't
The plants in garden warfare just felt more alive and fun. The shooting felt better and more satisfying. Every plant and zombie were balanced and fun to play, and most important, garden warfare had variants.
Yes until bfn came out it isn't even the same anymore they added extra health FOR NO REASON and added this bs superbrains ability that cost 300 stars which ruins everyone's fun
No. Youre wrong. PvZ Gw2 is in no way balanced.
@@LiteralWho25 Frank is GW2 pc alive or not.... i want to buy it but idk if its alive on pc
@@helloimjusthere4081 and is PVZ GW2 alive on xbox or playstation?
But slow
I mean, i haven't played BFN but i gotta say GW2 is just really damn good lol, it truly stands up to today's standards, no wonder you can still find full lobbies with little effort, it is quite a gem
As a OG garden warfare 1 player and a collector of all 3 games I say
Bfn is trash
They change so many things look what they do to torchwood- I mean oak why the hell is rose like that and why does citron have a giant shield why does peashooter have blue eyes and looks like a alien
HELP ME
@@helloimjusthere4081 it is
@@eldankdoge nah
Fr💀
@@helloimjusthere4081 …
Rip the variants
Un dindon removing variants, packs etc. Only made the game worse
Why hating?
@@dionysisponiros1838 Yea.. Skins are boring..
At least I can level up faster
Dionysis Poniros I honestly think it's better because without variants everyone is at an even playing ground.
I preferred the old graphics because they look just overall better imo. I also think the old graphics worked better because they appealed more to both audiences (kids and adults) alike.
BFN rose 😔
Tbh the bfn designs looked a little bit more goofy but we don’t talk about the BFN Rose design
Personaly I like the BFN art style because the hyper-realism they were trying to go for in GW and GW2 was a bit much for me when I was younger, and first impressions make a difference.
I think it just looks like that because the battle for neighborville recording is worse
i liked the little jingle that played in GW2 when activating Gatling Pea
Me 2
TOO ROO TOO TOOOO!
Same.
Yeah same
I think it plays in GW1 too
Plants vs Zombies GW 2: Has realistic graphics
Plants vs Zombies BFN: Has cartoonish like graphics
Me: *visible confusion*
Terra King yeah you be like whaat?! I’m so confused😱😱😣😣😣😣 *gets triggered*
LOL JUST KIIDING😂😂😂😂🤣😅😅😅😅😅 but noice😅😅😅
@@LordEggmanDoesRandomStuff emojis be like 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
SirStarscream14 stfu kid with those gay ass emojis you prick
Remember team fortress and team fortress 2?
Australium slave mine company do
It’s true. GW1 looked a lot more realistic compared to 2 and BfN.
I think its kinda sad how in BFN they made the characters and abilities more cartoonish but the surroundings better... it just doesnt fit the game world... GW2 has beautiful characters and abilities and a absolutly stunning slightly cartoonish world around that is just beautifull and there was no reason to change that :)
GW2 was trash
@@NettieDavis lmao u are the opposite of a man of culture xD how can someone not like that
Gw2 has better graphics than a 2019 game lmao
@@spixxy1751 dude have you heard of opinions lol
Idk man but jw2 iS TO FUcKInG REALISTIC
We can all agree gw2 was a perfect game they didnt need to change anything. Upgrading the engine expanding the backyard and adding more challenges maps and variants maybe a new class or two and then even better
GW2 was trash
@@NettieDavis how
@@NettieDavis oh never mind you’re a troll
@@VeryAngryCriminal Oh never mind you're just an angry kid
@@VeryAngryCriminal hOw
I honestly prefer the second one instead it just feels like they corrupted everybody
But u have to admit, the graphics and the characters look *SO* much better
@@HellO-ik8ur No they don’t
@@slugee6279 yea they are
@@HellO-ik8ur the graphics yes but not the characters
Most characters look better in my opinion.
pvz gw4 will become literally a cartoon at this rate
have u seen it
Bfn wasn't gw3 tho
@@dunsun6395 I hope so, I hope it's considered a spin off and not part of the main franchise.
@@pretendtheresaname9213 I mean, I also hope that the new classes won't never come back. I feel like that variants for Acorn, Nightcap, Snapdragon, Iceberg Lettuce(it did never come out, but its progress was good enough that I'm gonna count it) Wildflower, Space Cadet, 80s Action Hero, Electric Slide, Wizard, and TV Head could exist and work well. *But for the love of god, they shouldn't bring back the reward-o-tron.* And if they do, they should make it like the sticker packs and not just random items for random categories.
@@dunsun6395 it has the same abilities but changed a little like peashooter still has chilly bomb but the boost has the hover now
Oh god Citron...
*WHAT DID THEY DO TO MY BOY!?*
He's way to orange😏
They made him hideous
Correction: *MY* boi 😡
Well he is pretty good at Funderdome squid 700 many apologies
Ikr
*I like how they made the graphics more **_“cartoonish”_*
It to appeal to kidos
@@elld669 and simply to look better too
It’s like they made it both more realistic and cartoony at the same time, and while it does appeal to kids, it can most definitely appeal to adults too :)
@@megalonk._.9728 Lol
@@elld669 Which sucks because I think the old graphics look better
Liked the old lighting and texture quality better.
Same
The quality is clearly worse, but the style is really good.
Citron Looks like a cosplayer
@@Emanuele_Polisena quality looks better. Characters have actual detail and there isn’t a disgusting blur filter on them.
Tbh, all of these comparisons are good and all, but the fact chomper was supposed to be a stealth character, and then make his burrow like as loud as hell, it's as if nightcap was the new chomper, but weaker
Yeah they hear me coming and since mobility has gone up and the lack of a back chomp makes getting kills actually harder at times, also I miss fire chomp or hot rod chomp
@@domc9801 and I miss every variant
Chomper was OP. I don't understand how people can"t see that and realize that BFN had more work put into balancing.
@@questerer1 hell no. You would never see a chomper as a top player in the leaderboard. Trying to survive while chewing a zombie was pretty much impossible unless you had the hot rod, which only had 125 hp. They were only op in 1v1s, and i wouldn't even say they were op because of it since that was the whole point of the plant
@@hoesmad7689 Chomper has a kill wich doesn't allow for revives. That alone should be a big warning of a character that can be overpowered... For that reason in BFN there is only 1 ability for doing that kill. In GW2 there are 2 ways of doing that.
Who still plays the second game
How about the first game
Mrragey 2 I play all 3 games a lot
Me
Mrragey 2 I played the first game and I want to play the second one if I buy PS4
Some times
2:15
Does anybody notice that pop cap reused the stuffy flowers sounds from garden warfare for the new sun flower in battle for neighborvile
I noticed and I hate it
they reused a bunch of things havent u noticed?
I did but stuffys reloaded sound is the first thing I noticed when I play the game
@@kevinl6542 plot twist
That is stuffy flower
You just find any reason to hate on this game don’t you?
Neighbourville looks like an alpha of GW. It doesn’t look like a finished game.
Just making sure you know it, but neighbourville is actually on the left and pvz gw2 is on the right. Title is wrong.
@@eplays9521 yeah ik i own gw2 and gw1 and i think neighbourville looks incomplete and plants look out of place. shaders are amazing tho
Gw2 its like with rtx and bfn its more colorfull
When I saw gameplay of BFN I thought the same thing, although at that time it was like early access or something and I just assumed it was going to be polished.
Don’t get me wrong some of the things in BFN look good, but I feel some of the UIs and characters are just missing the same stylization that the gw series (and even the main series) is iconic for.
I’ve never played BFN but from what I’ve seen - it’s not bad. It’s just not GW even though it’s so comparable to GW. It looked like they wanted to distance themselves just for the sake of being different.
@@SSS_413 Well if you have PS Plus BFN is going free tmrw as a monthly game so I suggest try it out as i’ll probably see whether i enjoy it or not as both GW1 and 2 I loved so much and both games I have platinum and spent soo many hours on
I'm happy to see cactus loose some weight over the years
She has stubby legs now
@laura aqqillaboys can have long eyelashes too people thought I was wearing the eyelash thing just because mine were long
@laura aqqilla I've played every pvz game m8
@laura aqqilla do you have something against boys with long eyelashes because you should be aware I said "she has stubby legs now"
To bad her running animation is retarted
Bfn's artstyle makes characters look skinny while pvz gw1 and 2 make the characters round.
the feel of bfn is awful in comparison to gw2. There was no reason to make husk hop and burrow move the camera awkwardly
The Husk Hop barley worked in GW2 though 😐
Kaveman it works more than in bfn, bfns husk hop is trash
The Z-mech Call and Punch have horrible camera angles.
The whole game needs work, so does GW2.
But Popcap doesn't give enough of a shit so they left that game to dead, it's almost like both games have similar problems.
devs dropped the game after 6 months kinda hard to enjoy a game that they clearly didnt care about. bfn was a last minute cash grab for a dying series. fucking tragic cuz i loved the games so much but bfn was such a massive letdown. maybe if corona didnt happen we woulda seen more dev livestreams. shame they went radiosilent when they went into quarantine : ^)
So sunflowers new sounds are stuffy sunflowers sound now?
BFN's Sunflower sounds like a little sister.
Yes
i was waiting for someone to notice that
@@readysetgo7623 everybody noticed that
@@lortitachusuchiha1179 well no one really bothers mwntioning it
In GW 2 it felt like you are free to choose what ever class you want. In BFN it felt like it forces you to play a certain class to balance out an already imbalanced class system.
This isn't a very hot take but GW2 is so much better in the character design and graphic design department. It has more charm imo
I prefer GW2 I love the graphics and variations of characters
I prefer GW1 actually. GW2 while a good game just doesn’t have the same charm that GW1 has. But BFN looks awful
@@mrmeep2047 tbh bfn isnt even that old let that game take some time it maybe be good.
Bfn is not too bad, honestly it would have been better if they'd put variants and perks and create even more personalization
I don't think the game is bad, I think that it is weaker than its predecessors
I loved the variants and I’m sad that BFN did not add them
yeah, it feels like an oddball frankenstein of all the previous Garden Warfare games, but everything is lesser.
Garden and Graveyard Ops are back, but you can't queue for a specific map or team, you can't select your difficulty unless you're in a private match, and they are only 5 waves instead of 10.
I feel I have more control over the tide of battle thanks to the enhanced movement and 8 player lobbies, but it results in games feeling less chaotic with longer moments of downtime.
Character variants aren't in this one, but there are different weapon types that you can give to characters, but they don't change how the characters or their weapons appear so enemy and weapon readability is out the window
(Not to mention that only a small fraction of the roster actually have unlock-able weapon types, which is reeks of "god they really didnt have much development time at all did they").
I personally really like this game, I feel I have more control of how the game progresses and plays, but golly it's lesser in almost every way. i wish the folks at Popcap had more time to work on it because it came and went like a breeze :((
0:59 *CACTOOS EARAPE*
3:13 WTF?
WTF
WTF
Let me ruin it WTH
WTF
What does it do? Turn every one into a goat if you got hit by it or it only dmg?
I like the more cartoony style of Bfn, tho i would like for classes too be added, those are my favourite thing about Gw2, and i think since bfn was the first one that i knew and played i kinda got attached more.(also idk why but Gw2 cactus creeps me out a bit)
GW2 sunflower: *nightmarefuell*
BFN sunflowr: *still a nightmarefuell but less nightmare*
I just noticed how scary the gw2 sunflower was omg...
Imo none of the sunflower is scary, I honestly like gfw and bfn sunflower.
GW2 sunflower: scary af
Bfn sunflower: cute anime girl
Look at the face.
No GW2 Was less BFN is just disgusting
I like how the sunflower had to put down a sunflower to do sunflower stuff
Ironic
Why EA... just why. In my opinion GW 2 is still superior in almost every aspect aside from a couple changes that could’ve just been a big update for GW 2 or the release of GW 3. Someone please tell me otherwise. *like brah citron* 🤧
Popcap
I enjoy bfn
Its EA's fault...
@TIM ok WTH the first guy who commented told me it was because of popcap, and now you are saying it’s because of EA... so who is to blame here? Should I just blame them both?
J Hardney well ea does own popcap now,
I feel like all the plants and zombies are so much more appealing in the garden warfare games, bfn has some good mechanics, but it doesn't surpass the old games. Though, I do really like the team work bfn tries to encourage (like space cadets being able to attach to one another, wizards being able to attach to other zombies, acorns being able to stack together) those examples would of been so fun in the garden warfare games
They could have fleshed out the graphics and details in bfn but they went for a simple style and I can’t really blame them it looks nice and simple in bfn.
They could just have added the new characters on GW2 i mean cmon
No
I agree.
Oh a new player
@Matheus OneMatheusMF LOL I love your comment
@@rafam5853 *Yes*
The title card for this video makes it looklike citron is falling down in the bfn comparison
He tripped and died
What’d they do to citron ;-;
Can he not roll anymore?
Citron can roll while running, and he can also do the ability where he becomes a ball and dashes forward
He’s the same but better
(Wait why do I here hate comment)
Well it allows more abilities but they turned his old weapon into an ability
@@spirityt2192 I really wanted to be able to use lasers normally in battle for neighborhoodville and attack while using a shield
@@smasher3261 i know i hate that because i love the shuelds usage and also he cant zoom in now because of his shield
The problem with BfN's graphics wasn't that it was cartoony. It was that it lacked charm. It tried too hard to fit into the regular PvZ game's art styles and as a result didn't feel unique, whereas Garden Warfare 1 and 2 did something different with their graphics and made their own style
Gw2 just felt like it had more love and care out into it
Thank you man you helped me with the best character I can chose thanks keep going your videos are pretty good
PVZ GW2 will always be better
Everybody is complaining about the graphics but they forgot about how is the gameplay has become much better .
Quality over quantity, bendy.
Ikn man.. ikr
Eh, that's questionable, imo the worst thing about bfn is how the hitboxes aren't as accurate as GW if you're shooting enemies from afar, chances are you'll barely hit, which takes a toll on the gameplay and makes it more boring
i wish they will make arcane like the old one in garden warfare 2 were it explodes zombies with the boosting effect how sad😭😢
I usually used it to get away instead of attacking because I would do the damage but when I got out I would get destroyed
@@mightyphil10 true
Lol I used arcane lotus for the free 40hp so y’all are scrubs
@Cookie Cat h
GW2 was trash
It's hard to tell what I'm looking at for battle for neighborville considering the amount of bloom
I actually LOVE the NEW graphics, although it's not that realistic, it's more animated at feels great during the Gameplay
GW2: Cosmic cape Rose
BFN: Normal cape Rose
Gw2 definitely had better maps and gameplay but i loved bfn art style like it is how PvZ supposed to be like, they are supposed to be a funny chaotic cartoonish shooter like they aren’t supposed to be realistic. Though this has exception to gw1 which had a better realistic art style than gw2. The biggest reason i think why bfn has less player was that they dumped the character system where there are no more fire type or ice type of that specific character which sucks a lot and if they manages to merge the old characters in with the bfn art style then yes bfn would be better than its current state
Gw1 and 2 have the same art style dumbass
The graphics are ok I just prefer the original experience
Edit: stop fighting
I AGREE 10,000%
not gonna get the original experience with any new game
@@Cloudyv well gw2 remake
@@hamburber1683 you mean a remaster? if they were to do a remake they'd change to many things
@@Cloudyv true which equals bfn so your right
They made Plants even more powerful tho.
Rose deserved to be buffed
@random account like what perks?
Oh thx
Ruby The Little Red Hood
I mean, plants were nerfed in GW2
They made them hideous
@@alemon2682 bruh stop
Rip kernel corn... you will be missed... by me at least
from decent to shit. the same can be said to citron
(Are you sure about)
Citron is now killer of imps since bfn
Ahat? Kernel corn looks same as gw2!
@@UsualCreator no they made all the characters more shit for money
*What did they do to my girl...*
Unlike most people, I'm okay with Rose's redesign in BfN, though admittedly the original design is better, with the bigger head, eyes being closer to each other, the sparkly purple cloak, etc.
GW2 Rose looks like barbie
Compared to BFN rose GW2 rose is incredibly ugly
tbh why even play rose at all
Her cosmetics in bfn are pretty neat
@@handsomeoz9248 Indeed. She got some solid skins and cosmetics.
People often use her as the butt of BFN's "bad redesigns" jokes, but as I said, I'm alright with it. I said the top line as a sorta joke
you know BFN would be good if they slowly added variants like little updates 1 variant every 2 weeks would be amazing. If only they slowly made the game better by adding in things that had good reactions and removing the things people didn't like the game would be genuinely AMAZING but its EA they only care about money not about happiness 😢
What they did to chomper's abilities is despicable but the range shots are a welcome adittion even though it was unnecessary.
GW 1 and 2 are gems but BFN doesn’t give me the same grinding out feeling GW gave me. It’s really different and I just wished they made a GW3 instead
GW2 was trash
@@NettieDavis you watch speedy mouse
And mr beast
And gray still plays
And fusionzgame
For those of you complaining about graphics, they probably made graphics more "cartoony" to make them animate more smoothly, before the models were a little too realistic and "stiff" to make them stretch and bend like they do in bfn, and Thats the best part about bfn, it feels new, garden warfare 1 and 2 used basically the same animations models and gw2 only added new characters, hardly a difference between gw1 and 2 models with everyone having the exact same abilities too. But bfn is from the ground up, no character is exactly the same, the closest we got is soldier having the same abilities, but every other character got somthing new. new animations, models, and abilities, and besides, if you dislike a game for the graphics you probably shouldn't criticize games, not every game has to be realistic, you're gonna sit here and complain about graphics on a game thats litteraly about sentient plants fighting ZOMBIES. Games are not all about graphics
Agree
Yeah also bfn actually has other maps to explore and GW2 just had the main map and GW1 didn’t even have a map I don’t think I think it just had all the normal options
Bfn fan poo
You got things wrong,in bfn graphics are more realistic,not in GW2,the difference is the newer one is more cartoonish like u said
how did this game start off from a simple 2 dimensional game to a frickin fps game lmao
PvZ BFN: Literally Fortnite X Death Stranding graphics and smoothish
GW2: Smooth and cool shades
Do you even play bfn
@@brxnnt proto ses *yes.*
@@TheHorusTapes death stranding is a walking simulator
Sounds about right. Though Fortnite looks better: Less random shit littered about (Seriously, what happened to the zombie areas?)
Why is it bfn 50/50 people like people no like?
You may not like the look, but the animation sure does make the game look more alive!
True, although i love the new look. But rose looks kinda weird I'll admit
@@baileybenins1971 weird, but not ugly.
@@mario_gagnon i didn't say she was ugly tho...
@@baileybenins1971 I know that. Didn't say you were wrong.
@Titanium Rage What make's you say that? I do have some criticism for the game if that's what you're looking for?
What really grinds my gears is they took out the variants and wasted all the time, effort, and resources to make the snap dragon which in my opinion is a fire variant chomper
Why Cactus has less health in BFN:
*Because she went on an diet*
Lol
The Cool it’s a he lol wdym
Look again.
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Big fat cat Jonkus no it’s a she
Big fat cat Jonkus it's a she
I love how the wild flower got scared when chomper came at him in burrow. Then they laughed when they realized it was him. 3:41
Where?
both graphics are great but for me i like more graphic from pvz GW2 because its realistic
The new art design is good, but the colors in gw2 are also good
I love both games. I just think removing the variants wasn’t very smart
Each game has something unique to it but popcap removed the most unique thing about the pvz shooters: variants Rip
It’s not gw game so no variants
Tbh removing variants would make everybody equal in combat
To be honest I don’t understand why people hate on bfn so much. The Artstyle migt be different than the one from the Garden Warfare games but I think it doesn’t look bad at all. I like how most characters are balanced unlike in GW2 and the perks may be not that great but I think it is a concept just as okay as variants, who provoked pay2win and made Garden Warfare 2 extremely unbalanced. I also prefer the new maps over the Garden Warfare ones because no longer are they only takeover after takeover, but also have payload tasks. The singleplayer in my opinion is far better aswell. Only having 3 different maps may not be alot but they all provide a cool story, a big layout and are overall fun and rewarding. Garden Warfare 2 only had the backyard which was great aswell but I felt like it didn’t provide this much after all.
In garden warfare 2 I usually put the walnuts down first the the potato mines in front of the walnuts
What I like about pvz bfn.... No hot rod chomper or e.p
@Johnny Boi hot road suicide chompers were cancer I'm happy they locked the ability that far.
I wish they would just replace the chomper completely with a different class
nightcap
@@formerlysammichu1 yes
RIP Cactus Walnuts
Dis IS actually a comment lol
NO NO NO PLEASE
@@Pxiless OH NO
But now it has a dumb jump hover that can make you more vulnerable
@@spirityt2192 Cactus is a sniper character it allows you to get to higher ground
Pvz gw: cartoonish but realistic
Pvz gw2: realistic
Pvz bfn: FRICKING FLYING PLANTS AND CORN THAT SHOOTS BUTTER (the husk potato made sense in pvz gw2
True
Honestly nothing makes sense in this, the plants are big as hell, chomper literally digests anything and mostly everything and is taller than you that’s just the start, personally I’ve never seen the “realistic” aspect but gw2 was better cause everyone was fair and OP at once and you can play however you see fit and do good, now you actually have to worry about your build rather than I wanna be a fire cactus than a alien sunflower.
Dom c yee
Bruh if u want some physics then go to csg or cod. This is pvz u moron
U are serious? Xd
The sad thing is that usually when a game goes bad the series is usually discontinued, I'm afraid this might happen to pvz gw
Tbh Citron looks like he needs to be named Orange in the new name
HE LITERALLY LOOKS LIKE A PEELED ORANGE
Lol
but he literally is
I feel like the new animations for the characters are generally better, but the actual moves and effects like splash for the out characters is better
Considero que los mapas del PvZ BFN son mucho más bonitos que el de PvZ GW 2, pero me gustan mucho más los diseños de personaje del PvZ GW 2 que el de PvZ BFN
Yo soy contrario a lo último
I didn’t know bfn was a thing, I’ve been playing this game since i was 8 and just now I realized this!
I can't be the only one who thinks all star especially feels way weaker
His bullet spread and clunkier movements take away the fun from using him in the original
Not to mention the tackle ability is pathetic compared it it's original counterpart
Also All-star is way too skinny in bfn
I remember playing this game ever since the original and then PvZ1 - PvZ BFN. It makes me feel fuzzy inside
I think I prefer the realistic look if I'm honest 👍🏼
I like pvz GW2 more than Pvz Bfn
GW2 was trash
@@NettieDavis troll troll go away come back another day
@@crapcentral or never come back. Whatever floats your boat
Chomped looks better in bfn he doesn’t look like he’s bald now
Chomper can spit. Nice, but now it's almost impossible eat someone, those fuckers just start running and there's nothing more to do
Kawer Fernandes it’s always been like that. It’s called balancing
@@liesofthekids8603
Well, i prefer the classics
how two play chomper in bfn
1. bait your opponent some where far away or hide in a corner but make sure the opponent is alone
2.goop
3.burrow
4. run away
5. Repeat
@@cao2391 me too people dont probably know the classics now
the fact that gw2 is older and still better and looks more realist in characters is epic
Bfn is better tho and playing the same game for 6 years is kind of hard
I hate that they took away variants in thr 3rd pvz ;-;. Toxic pea, party citron, disco chomer, mystic flower, commando zombie....yall will be missed
I like how bfn gives the characters more character
*looks at GW2 gameplay*
"I JUST MISS HIM SO MUCH AAAAAA"
GW2 was trash
Gw2 looks and feels so much better to play
Basicly the older game looks better
GW2 was trash
@@NettieDavis how
@@NettieDavis go away troll
@@NettieDavistroll troll go away come back another day
man i wish GW2 had the graphic of BFN, it would be the best game
Wtf did happened to the cactus. Now its a multitasking monster lol
GW2 Citron: *Autobots, rollout.*
BFN Citron: Mom.... A Bucket of Orange Ink falled in me....
I laughed so hard at this
İm gonna miss sunflowers pot and cacti's wallnuts
So that's why BFN Cactus never felt the same
i love the pvz franchise and grew up playing garden warfare on xbox, sucks to see that bfn couldn’t hold up to 1 or 2
Me: "Look how they massacred my boys."
@guesst 326 I do too. The old art style looked too realistic (it’s supposed to be based of the first PvZ game’s artstyle). I real like how the characters look in bfn besides rose, super brainz and the scientist’s goggles
@@sebb.jimenez exactly, it looks better and more faithful to the originals.
Rose and corn are less OP at least
And BFN rose actually acts like a support while GW2 rose Carey's the team
BfN has the superior character models, animations and abilities as well as lighting in general. GW2 had a better PvP zone.
Depends how you see it. Gw 2 was going for a more realistic look and bfn looks like plastic. The models in gw2 look more detailed. Bfn is still good graphically but not as good as gw2.
Is pvz supposed to be a cartoon or like rtx 69696969696966969696969696699696969696
I just like the character variants in gw2 but I like the graphic in fnv
Pvzgw2: haha my graphics are much more better then yours!
Pvzbfn: but im smoother
Titanium Rage no. I’m pretty sure it’s like every part of the game
@Retendo agree, its mostly the gameplay... Minecraft doesnt have anything special but people play it still
@Dev King sure but some very bad graphic games are still very fun
@Dev King well some people say Minecraft has bad graphics because of a lot of cubes but it’s the bestselling game which was Tetris for the longest time
I think I’m your 900th sub
I can imagine a serious FBI agent walking up to a booth of pvzs and trying to make small talk, while still maintaining a unsettling level of composure.
I like bfn more you can customize you’re characters a lot more depending on your play style and it’s not much different besides combat and graphics and the fact that there’s no variants but I honestly could care less about variants I feel like people just likes unlocking different looking versions or ones that were gonna make the game easier for them but you can still get costumes in BFN and cosmetics too at the same time, and man the upgrading system is just really nice each of my characters are unique and I have one for each game mode
I like what they did with the Cacti’s aim but they went overload on the graphics in Battle For Neighborhood
Battle for Neighborhood.
You can really tell who abused Citron and all of the fire and ice variant characters just by reading the comments.
That's why they did away with variants and certain abilities. They made it more balanced so you tool bags couldn't abuse specific characters.
Even now, literally everyone uses Chomper, Snapdragon, Nightcap, Foot soldier, and Space Cadet all the time. I'll continue to say it. You can tell which characters are broken because people will abuse them the most.
Also, there is nothing wrong with the new Citron. You people are just upset because he actually takes a bit of skill to use now. Git gud.
Agreed
Someone said it thank you
Ight you got me but space cadet Is baby tho
Plants VS Zombies Battle for Neighborville is garbage. I would know because I have it. The combat system is based on who can hit the most shots while bunny hopping around and spamming abilities that the players need to abuse not to be terrible. There was NO reason to remove variants, they could’ve just introduced new variants while rebalancing the old ones. But instead, they had to remove every subclass and introduce a pathetic upgrade system and a sprint system which removes the purpose of Hyper, Engi’s jackhammer, etc. To replace them with shit like hover, which makes peashooter float midair HOWEVER peashooter has HORRIBLE air speed while hovering and is a sitting duck.
The lighting and shadows on the plants look better in garden warfare