And the question is also it’s getting saved more than sincerely asking Jesus Christ into your heart knowing you can’t do anything else to be righteous. Many advocates of not believing in salvation by grace alone believes it comes with terms and conditions and if you backslide, you’re lost again. But they don’t know where to draw the line as to what constitutes being lost again, like how many sins you have to commit or how long you have to live in sin in order to be lost again
1 John 2:19 (ESV) - They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us.
When man tries to bring the understanding of God down to his level he is not accepting by faith what God has to offer. That is a true and secure salvation in Christ sealed by The Holy Spirit. Grace that is sufficient for all! Amen
Plenty of religious Christians believe and teach salvation is earned and, therefore, can be unearned. Stupid and unfortunate. Saved by grace; it's a gift.
Ttey can’t square that rebellious lie with the scriptures. They want to believe obedience is optional, that Christ wants a lazy rebellious bride. Which is the opposite of the truth. Jesus never said. I am coming back for those who said a quick prayer and got dunked. Nope. He said I am returning for those who OBEY me. He also said. I am coming back for those who love me, and if you love you will OBEY me. Sounds like a requirement to me.
@@Nomad58just be careful you don’t believe your obedience wins your salvation friend. Because obedience doesn’t equal salvation necessarily. Obedience should be done, but believing and trusting earns you grace. Not being obedient.
@@jordanperry7954 and be careful that you think you can live a sinful lifestyle and be saved. Jesus said Many will be shocked that they are not saved in revelation. Obedience is NOT optional. Nor is obedience the same thing as works.
@@jordanperry7954 Your reply makes it clear that you believe obedience is optional. Let’s get honest with this. Do you believe a practicing drunk or a homosexual is saved? That they will enter heaven?
Makes a lot of sense. We obtained salvation by faith not by works, therefore we can't lose it by works. Once the Holy Spirit dwells in you it's permanent, and He will guide you in paths of righteousness and truth.
He was playing semantics. If you are truly following Christ and not intentionally living in sin then you cannot “lose” salvation. The real issue isn’t about whether you can arbitrarily accidentally “lose” salvation. It’s about our actual relationship with God or lack there of. The Bible makes it clear that someone who follows Christ can turn away at anytime by their own choosing. In that case they didn’t “lose” salvation, they forfeited it.
AMEN,NONE ARE GOOD,NO NOT ONE,GRACE COVERS A MULTITUDE OF SINS,we are fallen and can only get up by SALVATION ,ROMAN'S 10-9-10 GETS YOU INTO SHAPE FOR THE LORD OF HOSTS TO FORM YOU PERFECT IN HIS EYES,HUMAN BEINGS ARE PITIFUL OUTSIDE HIS GRACE,GOD BLESS ALL WHO LISTEN
How does one reconcile once saved always saved with the parable of the sower? There are people who receive the word and believe it but fall away when difficulty come. There are people whose faith is choked by their love of the world which can be money, loved ones, careers, i.e. loving anything more than Christ (a lot of believers fit in that category). It is only the crop that produces fruit that will be spared. Matthew 13 vs 18-23 18 “Listen then to what the parable of the sower means: 19 When anyone hears the message about the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what was sown in their heart. This is the seed sown along the path. 20 The seed falling on rocky ground refers to someone who hears the word and at once receives it with joy. 21 But since they have no root, they last only a short time. When trouble or persecution comes because of the word, they quickly fall away. 22 The seed falling among the thorns refers to someone who hears the word, but the worries of this life and the deceitfulness of wealth choke the word, making it unfruitful. 23 But the seed falling on good soil refers to someone who hears the word and understands it. This is the one who produces a crop, yielding a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown.”
John 6:70 "Then Jesus replied, “Have I not chosen you, the Twelve? Yet one of you is a devil!” Judas was never saved. Jesus knew his heart from the beginning. Only God can tell if someone's confession is real, for it is only God who gives man a new heart and new will. We only see outward confessions and works, so we cannot be accurate judges, only God can. When Jesus said that one of the 12 would betray Him, not one of the disciples suspected Judas, they all wondered if it was themselves. That just shows how well Judas blended in outwardly. Yet Jesus knew his heart. 1 John 2:19 "They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us." Luke 22:19 “Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift all of you as wheat. But I have prayed for you, Simon, that your faith may not fail." And when you have turned back, strengthen your brothers.” Jesus knew Peter would betray Him, yet He prayed for him, interceded on his behalf so that he may not fall away from faith. And so even today, Christ is interceding for us as we know, at the right hand of God. We have been purchased by His blood. We are born again. We are a new creation, with a new heart and a new will. John 10:28 -30 "I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all[a]; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand." We can be deceived about our own salvation, for our hearts are deceitful and desperately wicked. We can have faulty judgements on other's salvation, but not God. The Lord knows His own. And He keeps them. Once saved, always saved, is better described when being said, truly saved, always saved.
@@kristianjensen6333 I agree with you how Judas was never saved. I've heard some people say how Judas was an ex-Christian. Judas never was a Christian. Judas was someone who went to church regularly, was a fan of the Christian religion, gave Christianity a test drive, etc, but Judas never accepted Christ in his heart and meant it in his heart, never surrendered his life to Christ, never put his trust in Jesus, etc.
Those who deny that salvation can ever be lost, reason on the subject in a contrary way. They tell us, that no virgin’s lamp can go out; (Matt.25:8-12) no promising harvest be choked with thorns;(Mark 4:3-9) no branch in Christ can ever be cut off from unfruitfulness; (John 15:5-6) no pardon can be forfeited(1Cor.9:27) (Isaiah 63:8-10)(Matt.18:21-35); and no name blotted out of God's book (Rev. 3-5). They maintain that no salt can lose its savor (Luke14:34-35);nobody can ever receive the grace of God in vain (1 Cor.15:1-2)(2 Cor.6:1-2); bury his talents (Matt.25:14-30) neglect such great salvation'(Heb.2:3-4) Using grace as a license to sin'(Jude 4); Jesus stresses total commitment: “No one who puts a hand to the plow and looks back is fit for service in the kingdom of God” (Luke 9:62). Nobody can ‘grieve the Spirit’ till He is ‘quenched,(Eph.4:30)(1 Thess 5:19); and strives no more,(Heb.12:14). nor ‘deny the Lord that bought them’; nor ‘bring upon themselves swift destruction.’ (2 Peter2:1-4). No believers that once knew God but did not retain God in their knowledge by going back to a life of continuous unrepentant sin somehow think that God wouldn't give them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. (Romans 1:21-32). They reason that how you live is irrelevant to eternal destiny since Jesus did it all there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie (Revelation 21:27) Nobody, or body of believers, can ever get so lukewarm that Jesus will spew them out of His mouth. (Rev 3:15-19).
Salvation can be lost through the decision to turn away. Scripture is full of teachings and warnings about turning to things that will end up with you lost.
" Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin." romans 3:20 remember, the law brings the knowledge of sin, so do not the verses of law? "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all." James 2:10 " For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous." romans 5:19 "For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified." hebrews 10:14 the one offering of Christ perfected for ever.. why are you trusting in the sinner for salvation and do you not completely trust in Jesus. if you believe he died for all of your sins (past present and future) and when you believe he has risen for you justification and you are sealed with the Holy Spirit?? is that not the saving grace??? ( just trying to help I dont know it all) "whoever lives and believes in me will never die. believest thou this?. John 11:26 John 3:16 Acts 16:31 Mark 1:15 Romans 4:5 Mark 16:16, 1 corithians 15:1-4. ephesians 2:8-10 Acts 2:38 John 5:24 etc etc
@@Nomad58I would say believe that he died for all of your sins past present and future and was risen from the dead for your justification. Which is by what we are saved according to 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. we have been reconciled back with the father through faith in Christ his blood romans 3:25. Many misunderstand, if He paid for all of your sins and you believe that, for what sin are you going to hell when you are a believer? Believers are a new creation in Christ Jesus, when born again the Holy Spirit lives in our heart convicts us of sin. We know we are saved by grace through faith, what is the grace that saves us we must identify. Christ paying for all of your sins and Him rising for your justification. That is the grace by which we are saved are we not? So believe that Jesus is the Son of God who died for ALL of your sins and had perfected you forever like the scriptures say by ONE offering. Not like in the old days when we sin we have to offer something again. If you believe/trust in your own obedience for heaven the object of your faith is you, you are believing in yourself. If you believe/ trust in Jesus his finished work for your salvation the object of your faith is Jesus Christ and you are believing in Him for salvation are you not?
The true gospel is truly beautiful. This is a nice one for you, “Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; 6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; 7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.” Titus 3:5-7 Put your faith in The Savior not the sinner.
@@brunobangu6179 you never answered the question. What do you think it means to be IN Christ Jesus? Remember obedience and works are not the same thing
I couldn't agree more. John 6:39-40 "This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”
It may be the will of the Father, but unless we press on with Him we will not inherit what was promised. Jesus said that those who overcome to the end will have eternal life. The question remains: will you continue to the end? No one has salvation this side of glory. We live in the hope of salvation and exercise faith in the consciousness of Christ so that we will inherit it.
@@horsejumpride8423 I do. Hence my comment regarding the false doctrine that John teaches. If you watch carefully you will see that he hardly ever supports his dogma with scripture and reason. And when he does use a scripture it is without reason; for you need both to support a proclaimed truth.
The key is given in v40. Believes (in your translation) is continuous present tense and therefore is really believed and continues to believe. The father and the son here have a common will, but that does not mean the will shall be fulfilled. We know what God's will for Israel was and what happened to them. We are warned three times in the NT about them; they lost faith.
@@thevoiceofonecallingout True belief in Christ expects obedience from the heart. Paul calls it the obedience of faith (Rom 1:5; 16:26). Belief without obedience is useless for salvation and is not faith. True faith in Christ is the consciousness of His ever-presence which leads to obedience from the heart.
The "salvation of God by His grace" has been God's plan revealed in His Eternal Covenant made in contract with His Son, then promised to us, exemplified in the faithful life of Abraham, and the very beginning of His creation of the world. Grace all the way, Faith all the way.
I have been through so much in my life when I was 5 years old I was given up for adoption and left in the hospital the woman that gave birth to me the one that cuddled me and said she loved me left me and then when I was 13 years old I went to visit her and she told my adopted mother I never want to see him again he's a nut people have been rejecting me my whole life and then Jesus comes along and Promises me he will never leave me nor forsake me and I have left him sometimes but still he draws me back and he loves me can you imagine what it would be like to me when I finally find someone who loves me and cares for me and someone tells me yeah be careful because he could just throw you away can you imagine that finally I find somebody who loves me unconditionally and cares for me and someone else is going to tell me be careful cuz he could just cast you away what a terrible thing to tell people this shows me that they are ignorant and they do not know the true God because the true God has told me never will I leave you nor forsake you so I can cling to him and trust in him and I know that even if I am faithless he still remains faithful because he cannot stop being God this is what I struggled with waiting for the moment that God would be like the rest of them and reject me and cast me away but he won't he's the only one I can trust who won't say he loves me and then burn me and I know this the only reason I go to heaven is because of what Jesus did upon the cross the blood he shed for me purchased me thank you Jesus
Hi Marty 👍 Do you want to talk about it? Only Jesus can love you the way that you are seeking to be loved. Jesus is loving you and hugging you every second of your life. Pretend that Jesus is behind you wherever you go and talk to Him wherever you go.
@@SCAM-BUSTER.777 I understand theologically that God loves us - for the Bible says God is love. I have never felt it at all. I was born, as I like to say, "terminally insecure", and am for all practical purposes, inept and incompetent. I am 61, and have never dated, let alone married. I live alone (go figure), and since my father died in2011, have felt extremely alone, as he was the only one from who I felt love. Apart from work, I see my one friend once a week. I know that emotions/feelings have nothing to do with the truth of God's word, but it damn would FEEL/be nice to be accepted/loved.
@@greenwich1754 Hi Marty Thanks for replying. Thank you for sharing this with us. I'm 70. I live on my own. Let's be pen friends for a little while. Other people may join in the conversation, so I will put a 🇬🇧 at the start of my short replies to you ok?
What I’ve been QUICKLY learning is to never use a verse to justify a point but keep it all in context of the chapter and book/epistles. There’s always a “…but!” to some of these verses
I respect Pastor John, but I don't agree with him here. This is a huge part of Christianity and I look to Galatians 5:18-21. Paul is preaching to those who are saved, not unbelievers. He list multiple sins that will keep you from receiving the Kingdom of God. Chuck Smith gives a great sermon on this. If what Chuck Smith, as well as many other pastors, says is true, you best know the truth about your assurance of salvation.
We must be His imitator and follow His Word only, not a church, a pastor or another person no matter how Godly they themselves say they are. We must come as a child, in humility trusting Jesus in every single area in our lives, Jesus the Healer. Jesus the Restorer. Jesus the Comforter. You see, when we are His child we will not go to another to be spirituality fed. Because of one scripture saying we must not forsake the assembly of meeting together. First we must meet with our Lord God Almighty, thee Living Jesus who comes to dwell within us and when that happens l can 100% guarantee that you will not run to a church, where a man is preaching, nope we sit with Jesus and He feeds us what we need so as to enter a pure, holy, righteous Kingdom That is what Jesus has me do and it good as there us no other place l must be, just to sit at His Feet and be still.
and you are where you should be, in Jesus, not in one of these churches with their pastors teaching people the easy broad path. Jesus isnt found in a church, hes not found in a bible either as most think but he is the living son of God whom God sat at his right hand giving him all authority in heaven and Earth. People hold the bible as if its what saves a person and its become an idol almost, but scripture is only a guide that points us all to Jesus, not back at itself. We are to go to Jesus, like you said, not spend our lives studying scripture trying to be some bible scholar and be able to wow people with bible knowledge, nor spend our time being taught mens doctrines "about Jesus" at a church. We go to Jesus himself and listen to HIS words and obey him only. HE is the living word of God, not a book and definitely not a church. "Many will say to me on that day, Lord, Lord......" you know the rest and its all these pastors and church dwellers that will be saying this on that day. I fear Jesus will say this to me as well, but I pray that I come to know him and he knows me
God so loved the world as to give His Only Begotten Son so that whosoever believes in Him may not perish; but may have life everlasting (John 3:16). Our Lord prayed during the Last Supper for the future generations, who "through their word, shall believe in Me (John 17:20)." Our Lord also said, "Unless you eat My Flesh and drink My Blood, you do not have life in you (John 6:53)" and "he that eats My Flesh and drinks My Blood has everlasting life (John 6:55)." Yes, God loves all human beings, created in His Image and Likeness, and wishes that all come to the knowledge of Truth and be saved (1 Tim 2:4). To save them, Word of God was incarnated, sacrificed Himself for our redemption, and instituted His Church (Matt 16:18) with which He remains always, until the end of ages (Matt 28:20). But not all will be saved because of wrong choice made, misusing the free will God has given everyone by rejecting the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church, which He Heads and Saves (Eph 5:23), and following other teachings and one's own desires and ways. "You search scriptures, but you do not want to come to Me that you may have Life (John 5:39-40)." God does not force the eternal salvation on men, but leaves each man free to choose its own eternal destiny. Why would anyone want to remain outside of His Church and, thus, risk one's eternal life? Therefore, choose wisely, brothers and sisters, so that you may be counted among the Redeemed! Time is urgent!
We are advised to not leave fellowship but trafficers abuse good families there that are either trafficers themselves or gamblers or anything a good human won't even know. Those that don't respect them because they had been evil core yet come there to just obey, might be last row runaways to keep themselves from polgamy culture and criminal violation cultures, where God tells not even to sit with them.
@@TimKollat yes it's us children that must come and abide in Him alone All that you wrote is correct with having a broken and a contrite spiral that knows our Lord God Almighty Jesus Christ That is the only way we can come as a child having no hope in ourselves I bow before Him continually in my day never ever to think myself mightier than another just more broken from my will it is those children who can be used to bring forth the true word of God That's only because it was Jesus who first drew us Many are called yet few are chosen He told me l was chosen when l didn't know anything about Him other that I could see a man in spirit walking with me after a brain injury that changed my life so so much yet today l am completely healed and now l can say that l know our Living God Almighty Jesus Christ Shalom Shalom to you this day Amen
I was saved at a young age and have grown and walked in truth. Right now, I love the Lord and am on fire for Him! I read and pray all I can every day! What happens if I commit apostasy in 20 years and deny the faith? What if I commit murder, too, and I never repent? If it happens, MacArthur might say that I was never saved. Well, then, how can I know for sure that I am actually saved now?
You see the wrong thing that people think is to assume and believe that they are saved in the first place. The truth is; as long as you remain in fellowship with the Savior, you are in the sphere of salvation. You have that You see the wrong thing that people think is to assume and believe that they are saved in the first place. The truth is; as long as you remain in fellowship with the Savior, you are in the sphere of salvation. You have that hope of salvation remains in you. When you walk out of that zone, you will go astray and you will have a hard time finding your way back. “If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: *if we deny him, he also will deny us:”* (2 Timothy 2:12) There is no complete salvation given to any believers in this present time. We are only saved by hope (see Romans 8:24-25). We are not completely saved yet. If complete salvation has already been given to the believers, then the warnings in the epistles are pointless. What’s the need of warning them if they’re already completely saved? After all that makes no sense, right? But as you see, there is the so-called balance of God’s calling to salvation. And that is God’s sovereignty against men’s responsibility.
If.you are saved sealed with the Holy Spirit, your conscience will not allow you to be continue in sin for a long time, you will not be comfortable. You cannot make sin a practise, like David the very moment Prophet Nathan spoke to him, repentance followed, so is the Holy Spirit will convict you if you are genuinely saved by faith in the finished works ie the gospel 1cor15V1-4. 1John2:19
Salvation is dependent on our daily surrender to God. Salvation can be lost. Ezekiel 33:13 says, “When I say to the righteous that he shall surely live, but he trusts in his own righteousness and commits iniquity, none of his righteous works shall be remembered; but because of the iniquity that he has committed, he shall die.”
I wonder how come many Pastors neglect to tell their congregations the many chapters and verse's that explain how to lose your salvation!!! Maybe fear of losing their congregation?
That's not true at all! Pastors shouldn't spread that false narrative that one can "lose " their salvation. Think about it for a minute...if one could actually lose their salvation., then no one in this world could ever have assurance, since all I have to do is sin, and presto, I'm not saved, and have to be saved all over again. That makes no sense and won't hold up to good sound biblical teaching. Think of the Bible as a law book, (and it is)if my sins were paid for, I can't be held as guilty anymore, as Jesus paid not just for my past and present sins, but future as well. For me to be declared guilty before God, would be "double jeopardy." That would be unrighteous. The true believer also knows salvation is not a license to sin "all I want." Rather now my whole relationship to sin is completely different than it was before conversion. I HATE IT! Although. I still have the capability to sin. Salvation means slowly gaining victory over sins even though we'll never be perfect on this present world. People that claim to have lost their salvation were never saved from the beginning.
@@victorcroker2765 that is a good explanation of a worldly christian view!!! And I can see that you have a worldly spirit And I'll let the scripture's explain why. Get your Bible and read Matthew 7:21-24 Verse 21 notice JESUS not everyone who says Lord Lord shall enter into the kingdom, that's making a proclamation of knowing JESUS CHRIST as GOD'S son and our savior! Shall enter into the kingdom! But only them that do GOD'S WILL. You see many false teachers openly call JESUS a liar by calling this a works gospel! Verse 22 notice many in that day, many means a multitude, great number, in that day=judgement day!!! Also notice these Christians were endowed with GOD'S holy spirit to prophecy, to cast out devil's and to do many miracle's! And many false teachers blaspheme against the holy spirit by saying that these Christians were never saved!!! GOD does not give his HOLY SPIRIT to the lost! You will find that in Matthew 12:22-37! Verse 23 in this verse JESUS says I never knew you= that means I never approved of you (approved of their behavior) !!! Verse 24 again notice JESUS says hearing his words and doeth them!!! He calls those christians wise!!! They built their house on the rock which is JESUS CHRIST!!! So we see hear that christians that hear the word only and don't obey them! And don't have a strong foundation in JESUS CHRIST. Will not inherit the kingdom. Please read 2-thessalonians 2-10. In Matthew chapter 25 JESUS CHRIST dedicates this whole chapter and warns against the loss of our salvation!!! Verses 1-13 the foolish not preparing for the kingdom, quenching of the HOLY SPIRIT by not obaying him!!! Verse 14-30 being a lazy servant, christian. Verse 31-46 not having love and compassion for others!!! And don't forget the sin of Apostasy Hebrews 6:4-8!!! So these are just a few of the verses where JESUS CHRIST and the Apostle's warn us christians on how to lose our salvation!!! I encourage you to read and study your Bible and not just be a hearer of the word only!!!! It is GOD'S requirement for us to learn the word of GOD so we as christians will know who the false prophets, teachers are!!! We do not want to follow them to hell!!!
Once saved, always saved AS LONG as we remain in Jesus. He doesn’t force anyone to remain in Him. It is our daily choice. In 1 Corinthians 9:27 the apostle Paul said, “ But I discipline my body and bring it into subjection, lest, when I have preached to others, I myself should become disqualified.”
Stop adding on to gods word…it’s once saved always saved or not. No true believer ever walks away for good that’s how u know who really believed to begin with
@@yamomma5053you said no good christian and that is what makes the difference.The bible says Christ is able to keep us from falling if only we yield to Him.Learn your Bible and work out your salvation with fear and trembling.Once you have been saved,you are saved if only you deny self and follow Christ.
Lord lord I cast out demons in your name depart for me you evil and wicked one I know you not so where does that come into being once saved always save when the preachers from the pulpit are preaching God's word I blot you out of the book of Life How about all the people who says they won't inherit the Kingdom of God liars murderers adulterers homosexuals etc Makes sense once saved always saved so I could live my life any way I want and then just show up for heaven sure sounds that way to me I'm really sorry that this man and other people believe this I hope that this message finds somebody's heart and knows that they have to commit their way to the Lord and make him Lord of your life I love you brothers and sisters You love somebody you will tell them the truth and the truth Set you free That before you today life and death choose life
People don't lose their salvation because they do something bad or sin. Rather, they lose their salvation because their beliefs change and they stop believing in Jesus. I've seen it happen. Very eager young man. Watched him lead worship and go on walks praying during retreats. No way you can convince it was fake or he was never really saved. Then he went to college and started hanging with sinful "christians", the kind Paul said don't even eat with. He started drinking. Then he started smoking pot. Then he started believing in universalism. Then he became an aetheist. His beliefs slowly died. I know he believed at one time because his actions showed it. Now he doesn't. Read the parable of the seeds. Some seeds germinated meaning they accepted the gospel but they later perished for various reasons. Jesus said anyone who takes up the plow and looks back is not worthy. It is possible for beliefs to change, even a Christian's.
Yes and that the bible mentioned about the falling away and warns us of deceivers in the last days. Who else could be falling away and from what? Non-Christians aren't falling as they have already fallen. Therefore the falling away are specifically in reference to Christians falling from their faith and succumbing to deceiving spirits. I was one of these but the Lord recalled me earlier this year. Maybe He could use me for promoting His glory? I've never read the bible with this much interest ever. Salvation is for everyone but it is up to them to accept it. Those who accept will be saved. You lose it when you CHOOSE to pursue other interests contradictory to Scripture. You lose it when you chose to pursue wealth, power, fame, control, lust.... as these become your gods and you can't serve 2 masters.
This is so sad to hear 😢 Reminds me of the verse 2 Peter 2:19-21 (ESV) - They promise them freedom, but they themselves are slaves of corruption. For whatever overcomes a person, to that he is enslaved. For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world through the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first. For it would have been better for them never to have known the way to righteousness than after knowing it to turn back to the holy commandment delivered to them.
@@SillyChickens222 don't be sad, be happy you're one of the Chosen. God could have chosen all who profess they're Christians but he chose the Born-again. Sifting wheat from tares, true believers from pharisees. That is why it is emphasised in Revelation 19:9 "And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God".
This unfortunately is the fatal flaw in Catholicism in that they believe and misinterpret that 'good works' will take you to heaven, when it's salvation alone through Christ alone that saves, and that good works (living a Godly life aka Fruits of the Spirit) will follow those who are saved as a sign to others of their salvation.
A lot of his preaching is accurate. The one thing that I take exception to is that when he preaches to his congregation, it's always assumed that all the members of his church are "saved" since they're all "confessing members". All that does is lead members into a false sense of security. Big, big mistake as no matter where you go, it's always a "remnant" that are actually saved. As for the commentary at the top, it is true that many, many so called preachers choose to go center stage with their heresy, and are "false" indeed, however don't mistake intelligence and education for confirmation that somehow these preachers are legitimate. In a world enamored with education, it's assuring to know education never saved anyone...Period! I can remember Billy Graham holding the title of "America's Go To Preacher." Truth comes from God's Holy Spirit, and not our intelligent minds. Just like salvation, God gives truth to who he wants , when he wants, if he wants.
If you're referring to his use of "we" and "us" during this clip, I do think it might be good to remember that scripture uses similar language in places, like when Paul addresses the churches in his letters. Of course Paul understood that these churches were going to have unbelievers in them, and he certainly made time in his letters to address those things. But he also makes plenty of time to address believers, and even calling them brothers, without always reminding them that his words may not really apply to some of them. I would also disagree with the statement that John MacArthur always assumes his congregation is saved, if that's what you are saying. I don't think that's a fair conclusion to make from a short clip. John MacArthur is certainly not one to shy away from the hard truths, and he has given many sermons of warning against false professions of faith and has even told that very congregation that many of them may not actually be saved. But there are also times when true believers need to hear encouragement and have their faith nourished by reminders of who Christ is and all He has accomplished, and that message doesn't have to be loaded with constant reminders of "but only if..."
Eddie m macarthur praises and shows special partiality to his congregation in every video l stopped listening to him when he decided to send everyone to hell stop playing god macarthur
So what do you do about the parable of the Good Servant and the bad servant? What Jesus is doing here is hyperboly. Basically Jesus is saying that He is very angry at the person who doesn't use the resources that He has given to each individual.
@@SCAM-BUSTER.777 He says that the servant who hid his talent will be cast into the outer darkness. That's a lot worse than Jesus just being angry with him. The parable of the seed and the sower talks about one type of soil where the seed germinates but withers and dies. That's the example of a person who once believed but then turns from salvation.
@@jerrodlopes186 Hi Jerrod My comments are for discussion sake, not argument sake ok 👍 Lots of articles have been written about this subject. As far as I can remember the germinate part of it was that it just stayed in people's consciousness. They didn't take it that seriously, so it just disappeared from their consciousness in a very short time. They didn't believe in their heart and confess with mouth. So because of this they hadn't received the holy spirit in the first place. Chuck Missler at Koinonia House is a very good place to do your bible study. 😊👍
"And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day." These words are from Jesus's mouth.
I agree how people can't lose their salvation. There's a lot of Bible verses such as 1 John 2:19, 1 John 5:13, and John 10:28 that show how people can't lose their salvation. When someone accepts Christ in their heart and means it in their heart, repents and turns away from being a slave to sin, surrenders their life to Christ, put their trust in Christ, etc, God changes them, and they experience all kinds of changes in their life due to God changing them such as being born again, being a new creation, having a changed heart, not being a slave to sin anymore (they still sin, still have sin weaknesses, still have sin struggles, still make mistakes in life, still aren't perfect, etc but aren't slaves to sin anymore), wanting to live for the Lord, wanting to serve the Lord, always being saved, never walking away and abandoning the faith, never becoming an ex-Christian, persevering in the faith until the end, enduring in the faith until the end, etc. This is how God changes someone when they become saved.
Please review the following verses regarding falling away. I don't believe John addresses these. We shouldn't pretend they're not there. Mat 6:15, 12:31, 24:12-13, Mar 3:29, Luk 8:13, 9:62, Jhn 10:27-29, 15:6, Rom 11:20-22, Heb 6:4-6, 10:26-29, 2Pe 2:20-21, Col 1:21-23, 1Ti 5:15, Jas 5:19-20, Rev 2:4-5, 3:16, 19
7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Matthew
"I NEVER KNEW YOU. Depart from Me, you evil doers" (Matt 7:23). You read scriptures, but understand them in your own human way for your own peril and not in the Spirit and Truth in which one must worship God (John 4:24). To teach all peoples down to the end of times in Spirit and Truth so that they may believe in Me (John 17:20) and thus may have eternal life (John 3:16), I founded My Church (Matt 16:18), the Roman Catholic Church, and sent them to baptize and teach all nations to observe ALL that I have commanded (Matt 28:20). I said, "Whoever listens to you, listens to Me. Whoever rejects you, rejects Me and rejects the One who sent Me (Luke 10:16)." Some of you do not believe (John 6:36) ALL I have spoken and commanded. Whoever rejects Me and does not accept My Words has something to judge him; the word that I spoke, it will condemn him on the last day (John 12:48). You do not believe because you are not among My sheep (John 10:26). My sheep hears My voice and I KNOW THEM and they follow Me (John 10:27).
Our Lord is very grieved and suffers by those who reject His Church and follow separated churches founded by men, not by God-man, who teach heresies and a partial truth, blind leading blind (Matt 15:14). These are branches separated from the Vine by their own free will and will be thrown into a fire (John 15:6) if they do not graft onto the Vine. Even though they proclaim the Name of Our Lord, they are the ones who deserve His words "Depart from Me, you evil doers." Why evil doers? Because they pretend to be sent by God to teach, use the Name of the Lord for their own interests, lure unsuspecting souls using the Gospel and then, mislead and confuse them who, out of ignorance, do not know the True Way, obstruct them from finding the True Church and Faith, and teach heresies and a partial truth as the Truth, endangering souls to perdition. All their work is against Our Lord and helps His enemy, therefore, is evil.
Brothers and sisters in Christ, why risk your eternal salvation by remaining in Error? Time is urgent since we are now living through the great tribulations and the appearance of the Antichrist (2 Thes 2:8) is very near. Like the prodigal son (Luke 15:11-32), return quickly to the Father's House, the Catholic Church, Our Lord's Sheepfold, before it is too late and make Heaven rejoice. Our Lord said, "Unless you eat My Flesh and drink My Blood, you do not have life in you (John 6:53). And he that eats My Flesh and drinks My Blood has everlasting life (John 6:55)." Don't remain as unbelievers to whom Our Lord said, "you search scriptures, but you will not come to Me that you may have life (John 5:39-40)." Our Lord is waiting for you with open arms and loving heart in His Church to save you, giving Himself in His Body and Blood (Luke 22:19-20, Matt 26:26-28)! May God bless you and lead you along His Way!
@@hyeminkwun9523 lol where does it mention "Catholic Church"? Be careful the Lord has this to say about bible editors: "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book" (Revelation 22:18 KJV) The Catholic Church has an integral part to play in the Great Tribulation. Many bible scholars and researchers have decoded the 2nd beast to be the Papacy as the description fits it to the T. Catholicism is indeed modern day Babylonianism with the New Testament thrown in. Why do Catholics have so many parties to intercede when the Bible specifically stated "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." (John 14:6 KJV). The fact that Catholics (who have not confessed their sins to God the Father through Jesus Christ) have a part to play in The Great Tribulation means they are not raptured. Of course there are Catholics on paper and believe the dispensation of Grace who will be saved. Nobody else can forgive sin, not even the high priest for they are mortal and their cleansing is man made law not God's law be careful. Jesus is the one conducting the rapture therefore if you had other parties to intercede for you, you are indeed disrespecting Him because you don't trust He sacrificed Himself for your sins.
There is one unpardonable sin in the sight of God. This was after people said Christ has an impure spirit. Mark 3 vs 28-29 28 Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter, 29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin.”
What does James 2:24 mean? ESV You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. NIV You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone. NASB You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.
And yet, God says that your sins are not forgiven if you refuse to forgive others. And if your sins are not forgiven, how can you go to Heaven? I learned this from a Baptist pastor who had the wisdom to teach the entirety of scripture. As he used to say, if you’re walking holy and being obedient to the Lord…then “once saved always saved”.
I'm a little bit struggling eith this one of once save always saved doctrine. Why is galatians 5vs 15 paul says As for you, my friends, you were called to be free. But do not let this freedom become an excuse for letting your physical desires control you. Instead, let love make you serve one another. 14 For the whole Law is summed up in one commandment: “Love your neighbor as you love yourself.” 15 But if you act like wild animals, hurting and harming each other, then watch out, or you will completely destroy one another 3:51 are those Christians who say but not live the true gospel will they be save then who are those peoplw God is going to judge and throw them in the lake of fire if they are not written in the book of life?
That which cannot be gained by moral perfection, cannot be lost by moral imperfection… Anyone who asks this question does not understand the gospel of Grace…PERIOD!!!… The smallest amount of merit in gaining or maintaining salvation defiles the Gospel…
Hebrews 6 vs 1-6 1 Therefore let us move beyond the elementary teachings about Christ and be taken forward to maturity, not laying again the foundation of repentance from acts that lead to death,[a] and of faith in God, 2 instruction about cleansing rites,[b] the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment. 3 And God permitting, we will do so. 4 It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, 5 who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age 6 and who have fallen[c] away, to be brought back to repentance. To their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.
Also saved people can sin badly and for a long time, and he or she will never lose salvation. Turd who reads this and disagrees, please feel free to challenge me. This isn't to say they don't care, even though it can look like it, and this isn't to say they don't experience the discipline of the Lord.
@@garvinsmith4555 how do you deal with people who say, if you don’t work, you were not saved to begin with? Because clearly there are saved people who sometimes live for themselves like David and Jonah?
@@alexnastasi2681 nope, the original translation from the Greek means have their part taken away from the tree of life, not names blotted out from the book of life. The verse you’re talking of is found at the end of revelation. This means they won’t have anything to do with the tree of life as their part is removed. Doesn’t mean they had a part there to begin with it just says that to illustrate the point of they will have no part in it. Those who have their names written in the book of life since the beginning will remain there those who haven’t have been destined to reject God.
We have a responsibility though as believers, John 15 Jesus said that if a man does not abide on the vine will just like a branch be gathered and burned, it was a warning for us today to stay connected to Him in prayer and obedience or we will lose our salvation You call Jesus Christ a liar John macarthur! Your teaching is a heresy
being lulled to sleep by easy on the ears doctrines such as this once saved always saved. This is what keeps people in church and the donations flowing. If any pastor taught the teachings of Jesus, he would have an empty church. These doctrines like "just repeat what it says at Romans 10:9 and your saved no matter what" are keeping people on that wide easy path.
@@rick3313 Jesus was sent to the lost sheep of Israel. Who was also sent by God? "there was a man sent by God whos name was John" Was John the Baptist in heaven then was sent down to Earth? Jesus tells his disciples that he sends them into the world in the SAME way he was sent into the world by his God and Father, but they were also to go to all the gentiles baptizing them and teaching them everything Jesus commanded. Were all his disciples up in heaven then were sent down in order to go into the world? Where was Jesus when he was sent by God? Was he up in heaven as God himself as John 1:1 is misinterpreted to say? or was he a man on Earth and was sent into the world after his baptism and spirit of God descending upon him when the man Jesus became the word of God?
I hate the lies. Salvation lies. But Gods word tells not to leave fellowship, all seem like might be prostitute connected or money launderers to me. Why the hell should I go to church? I am scared some prostitute or polygamist might destroy what I loved and lived perfect because of the reliance I had in Gods word. Lies trafficers, prostitutes is what I cross there...why should a pure family go there?????
Why does Paul talk about preaching so that he may not be disqualified? Also, it speaks of breaking off the unfruitful branches and throwing them into the fire.
There are dozens of scriptures that say we can loose our Salvation. Even Paul was concerned that he could loose his Salvation. 1 Corinthians 9:27 27No, I strike a blow to my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize. 2 Peter 2:20-22 If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. 21It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. 22Of them the proverbs are true: “A dog returns to its vomit,” and, “A sow that is washed returns to her wallowing in the mud.”
Paul knows he doesn't loose his salvation. Ok. Paul was dealing with his sin nature..ok That's why he says he finds two laws at work in himself...make sense now John?
@@ferrosjewellers4558 How can a person *"escape the corrupt:on that is in the world"* if they never stopped being apart of the world ? How can a person "return to their vom:t" if they never vom:ted ? Everyone knows that people are able to believe at one time and not believe at another. Yet you Calvinists ignore this. Peter believed when he got out of the boat and walked on water and then doubted later and began to sink. Salvation is through faith
@@toddperez9023 seems you can't reconsile scriptures.. You come across as blind.! Scripture addresses both true believers and false believers. Both the tares and the wheat. Who said I was a calvinist?
Matthew 7:21 "Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
We are born dead. Our names are not in the Lamb's book of life when we are born. Only when we get saved is it written in the book of life. So then, when God says he can blot out your name from the book of life, who is he talking about? You have to be saved to be in it to begin with.
Please brothers help me I dont get the bullet point the bible both teaches we cant lose and also in peter 2 it refers to some christians ''it is impossible to some to recover them in repentance who in one time beleive then fall''
It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age and who have fallen away, to be brought back to repentance. To their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace. Hebrews 6:4-6 NIV If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. 2 Peter 2:20 NIV For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either. Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off. Romans 11:21-22 NIV MacArthur's opinion is oversimplified and ignores a vast body of scripture. We can have confidence in our salvation, if as our Saviour warned, "Those who endure to the end shall be saved." maranatha >
He ignores it because this is what keeps people in church, the easy way. Just claim you are a believer and youre saved, dont worry about all that having to pick up your cross, deny yourself, lose your life to save it, suffer for the name of Christ nonsense...But rather come to my church and Ill teach you a much easier way to be saved. The wide easy path is the one to be on, why go on the narrow path that is very hard to find in the first place and even harder to to stay on? If any pastor taught the "hard teachings of Jesus" as they call them, they would have no one in their church
Rather, it is your 'understanding' of that 'vast body of scripture', that is over simplified. The passages you quote are referring to people who associate with Christians in their congregations, but who are simply false sheep.
WHAT IS SPECIAL ABOUT BEING A HINDU? By Francois Gautier. *Diversity in Divinity and Unity in Spirituality.* 1) Believe in God ! - Aastik - Accepted 2) Don't believe in God ! - You're accepted as Nastik 3) You want to worship idols - please go ahead. You are a murti pujak. 4) You dont want to worship idols - no problem. You can focus on Nirguna Brahman. 5) You want to criticise something in our religion. Come forward. We are logical. Nyaya, Tarka etc. are core Hindu schools. 6) You want to accept beliefs as it is. Most welcome. Please go ahead with it. 7) You want to start your journey by reading Bhagvad Gita - Sure ! 8) You want to start your journey by reading Upanishads - Go ahead. 9) You want to start your journey by reading Purana - Be my guest. 10) You just don't like reading Puranas or other books. No problem my dear. Go by Bhakti tradition . ( bhakti- devotion) 11) You don't like idea of Bhakti ! No problem. Do your Karma. Be a karmayogi. 12) You want to enjoy life. Very good. No problem at all. This is Charvaka Philosophy. 13) You want to abstain from all the enjoyment of life & find God - jai ho ! Be a Sadhu, an ascetic ! 14) You don't like the concept of God. You believe in Nature only - Welcome. (Trees are our friends and Prakriti or nature is worthy of worship). 15) You believe in one God or Supreme Energy. Superb! Follow Advaita philosophy 16) You want a Guru. Go ahead. Receive gyaan. 17) You don't want a Guru.. Help yourself ! Meditate, Study ! 18) You believe in Female energy ! Shakti is worshipped. 19) You believe that every human being is equal. Yeah! You're awesome, come on let's celebrate Hinduism! "Vasudhaiva kutumbakam" (the world is a family) 20) You don't have time to celebrate the festival. Don't worry. One more festival is coming! There are multiple festivals every single day of the year. 21) You are a working person. Don't have time for religion. Its okay. You will still be a Hindu. 22) You like to go to temples. Devotion is loved. 23) You don't like to go to temples - no problem. You are still a Hindu! 24) You know that Hinduism is a way of life, with considerable freedom. 25) You believe that everything has God in it. So you worship your mother, father, guru, tree, River, Prani-matra, Earth, Universe! 26) And If you don't believe that everything has GOD in it - No problems. Respect your viewpoint. 27) "Sarve jana sukhino bhavantu " (May you all live happily) You represent this! You're free to choose, my dear Hindu! This is exactly the essence of Hinduism, all inclusive .. That is why it has withstood the test of time inspite of repeated onslaught both from within and outside, and assimilated every good aspects from everything That is why it is eternal !!! There is a saying in Rigveda , the first book ever known to mankind which depicts the Hinduism philosophy in a Nutshell -" Ano bhadrah Krathavo Yanthu Vishwathah"- Let the knowledge come to us from every directions
How do I know if I’m saved or just my mind playing tricks? Why do I always feel miserable and- yet- I can’t escape Jesus? Even when I’m not in sin I still feel miserable as If I’m already living in sin. This world is becoming more of a fairy tale, to me. Anyone else feel this way?
@@lelandcline6809 sigh…yeah, you’re right. Not as easy as it once was for me. For whatever reason, I’m struggling more in my faith than before. A complete 180 flip in my life. I don’t understand any of this and- yet- I still try to seek Christ. I just hope I’m a born again believer and saved. I- constantly- ask forgiveness for my sins and afflictions of my past.
Also try to listen to Dr. R.C.Sproul. a close friend of john macarthur. I heard Dr. Sproul teach on this subject once and was reminded not to ask forgiveness of the exact same sin twice. Because he is faithful and just to forgive us...and never remembers our specific sin. Then in an area of sin like covetousness work with hope and the Spirit of God to repent of repeating and thus walk better Nd grow stronger. God bless you and see you in heven.
Yes, sometimes. To answer your question, though, about whether you're saved; do you believe in Jesus, that he lived, was crucified and died, was resurrected and paid the price for your sins? If so, you're saved. BUT, you can turn away from it regardless of what this video says. Scripture is full of reasons and warnings. Follow scripture. Let the Holy Spirit guide you. Don't take my word for it or anyone else's.
ua-cam.com/video/hej1cyIVFUw/v-deo.html this might help you grasps more of God's promise of salvation, that pastor John Macarthur just implies in this sermon. Our salvation is not based on our performance otherwise the Son of God wouldn't need to die on the cross. Blessings! 🙏😊
Salvation is a miracle. It takes a miracle to have YOUR gu:lt transfered to someone else who then also needs to d:e and resurrect as a new creation in order for you to be gu:ltless. If Peter got out of the boat and walked on water, BY FAITH, and afterwards began to sink because of a lack of faith -- then you can lose your salvation too.
Here’s the thing. You know you are saved by the repentance of sin. The complete 180 from one way of looking at sin to the other. Let’s say I was just saved. As I grow and learn more about the word I become refined in the work god has begun in me. Phill 1:6 being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus. Most people who say they are “saved” and don’t have a desire to become holy and Christ like are not truly saved. No one is perfect and it will be an every second walk with God until Christ Jesus comes back. However what most don’t get is once I’ve started on the path I will continue to be refined by God, not that once I’m saved I will be perfect without conviction and repentance. So many try to condemn others by their lack of knowledge of every single scripture of the Bible. It doesn’t matter if you can quote every scripture and hold yourself to be perfect in every way. The truth is we all were once sinners and will be tempted always. We are to hold firm in our belief in Christ Jesus until the end. NOBODY has the right to say one has “lost salvation” because you are not the one who gave it to them in the first place. We are called to love not to be the judge. Only God has that authority.
Does he refute those who say this version of the gospel is from a false apostle? Can he prove Paul is a true apostle without using the Bible? There is so much bickering going on about it, and that we can only be saved by works as Jesus taught. Good luck then, because that already didn't work for anyone before Jesus came to earth. But how does he answer these Paul haters?
5 minute Christianity: John does not have a vast knowledge of the Bible. He is indoctrinated by the Calvinist doctrines and will not think for himself on biblical issues. Most of the doctrines I had heard John teach are in error according to scripture and reason.
When we repent and surrender our lives we are justified,and sanctified. Sanctification continues unti you die or Jesus comes then you will be glorified,free from your sinful "skinsuit"
What about JUDAS? You know, the one who betrayed Jesus for thirty pieces of silver🪙🪙🪙❓❓❓If there is no redemption for that one, what’s to say any one of us cannot fall away from the faith❓❓❓ We have to work out our own salvation with fear and trembling❗️❗️❗️
Judas was never interrested in Jesus, he saw that people were giving donation and all their possessions to Jesus and the deciples and wanted it for himself. He was selfish in the beginning and stayed selfish because he did not want to be saved
My Bible totally disagrees! Was Paul not chosen by Jesus himself, and made the apostle to the gentiles? Yet Paul himself told us in 1 Cor 9:27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway. Castaway means- unapproved, i.e. rejected; by implication, worthless (literally or morally):--castaway, rejected, reprobate. Let God be true, and every man a liar!
Paul's keeping his body in subjection, is just part and parcel of his being chosen by God. It's simply the outworking of the Holy Spirit in his life, and not something of his own will that is somehow juxtaposed with his being chosen. Ok? So it's a SUBSET of his being chosen: it is CONTAINED within his being chosen: it is INTERNAL to his being chosen: it is PART AND PARCEL of his being chosen: it is simply righteousness resulting from the indwelling Holy Spirit.
@@lawrence1318 I find it hard to believe your being serious here? You think we have no freewill and are transformed into holy obedient robots once we come to Christ? Look at the scripture and let scripture interpret scripture. 1 Cor. 9:27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: ( Greek meaning= make one’s self into a slave) lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway. (The word castaway means in the Greek= unapproved, i.e. rejected; by implication, worthless (literally or morally):--castaway, rejected, reprobate.) Paul was talking about walking in the Spirit, and not in the desires of his flesh. And that he must keep his body in subjection ( make himself a slave to the will of the Spirit of God) and not of his fleshly desires. Look at Galatians 5, Paul speaking to the church warns the church about what will happen if they walk in the works of the flesh, and not in the Spirit! He lists a short list of each for an example of the right way, and the wrong way. Stating that if we walk in the works of the flesh, we will not enter Gods Kingdom! Why would he do this if we did not have freewill to choose everyday to be led by the Spirit of God, or choose to walk in our fleshly desires? And why would Jesus tell us we have to carry our cross daily? Why would Paul say, I die daily? Why because he knows that the flesh and the Spirit is contrary to one another, and because we still are in a flesh and blood body, we have a daily battle to overcome the will of the flesh, and submit to the will of God! All born again Christians are being sanctified daily by Gods Spirit, and daily must choose to surrender our will, (the will of the flesh) over to the will of Gods Spirit! God did not, or ever will take our freewill away from us, so we must choose to crucify our flesh daily, and choose to surrender our will, to the will of God!
@@HumbleHeartMinistry You don't understand the hierarchical nature of scripture, but as with most novices, you juxtapose various contradictory elements instead of layering them at different levels on the pragmatic axis. The passages which urge us to walk according to our calling, are only effective if the Holy Spirit actually takes them up on our behalf: there's no magic in the scripture per se, and no way to follow what scripture says: the Spirit has to do it on our behalf. So scripture is actually written by God, to God, more specifically, it is the Father's instructions for the Son, for only the Son can do what the Father desires. This is what grace is all about and why we are told: "ye are dead and your life is hid with Christ in God". So scriptures which tell us to walk a certain way, are not implying that if we don't we shall lose our salvation: they are only hypothetical in such regard in that the Spirit will fulfil them on behalf of the elect. The Bride has no strength of her own self, but only the Bridegroom. So your approach is unlearned and naive. Baby theology. You are still on milk.
@@lawrence1318 Sir you have no idea how long I have known the Lord, or ohow long I have studied Gods word, or what God has taught me during those years! The scripture is written from God, for us, even as God clearly tells us this in 2Tim.3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. It is total error to think we are not supposed to take heed of the instruction God gave us! Yes The Spirit of God does the work in us, but only if we submit ourselves to his will, and not lean on our own understanding! Your judgement of me means nothing to me! God is my judge, not man! And I know who has taught me His Truth!
@@HumbleHeartMinistry That what I have pointed out to you, hasn't registered, confirms you are still on milk. At best you're at an intermediate level and are incapable of digesting what I've written to you. At present you know better.
[Bible] Revelation 3:5-6 “He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments, and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life; but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels. “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.” ’ Jesus himself implies it is possible for a believer to fall away and if he does . His name will be blotted out from the book of life
Believing you can lose your salvation is the same as working your way to heaven. Many people that are advocates of it, can never give me a straight answer on what constitutes being lost again. They think if you kill somebody, live in sin, etc. But they can never give you a straight answer where to draw the line as to when you lose it and have to be saved again. But there are quite a few scriptures that do suggest you have to work your way to heaven. He who endures to the end shall be saved, to he who overcomes I will not blot his name out of the book of life, if we willfully sin after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice (does knowledge of the truth equal salivation? 🤷🏻♂️)the dog returning to its own vomit, etc.
@@care4thearth Counting the cost means realizing we don't have the resources to do it without His help. Only He can save us and only he can keep us saved!
You said it yourself; those who endure to the end. That is to say that those who don't turn away from their salvation will be saved. You can't say a prayer, be baptized, then go on to a life of fornication, witchcraft and idol worship and be saved. When do you lose your salvation? When you decide to turn to sin and away from the Holy Spirit no longer believing in His power. It's all in scripture. Read about it.
I replied to another commentary on this video. You are always saved by Jesus no matter what you believe. He died for all. BUT you can fall away, depart from your faith, reject God or prioritise something else in His place and fall from Grace. You see, God gave us freewill and did not force belief upon us unlike Satan who will force worship or face dire consequences if you choose to leave his society. If you pursue wealth, wealth becomes your god and you can't serve 2 masters but 1. You have fallen away and therefore lost your salvation by your choice. You will certainly sin more as you chase wealth like cheat people, steal, etc. That's why there are so many false prophets like prosperity preachers, the Word of Faith movement is expanding daily worldwide, for they teach pro-self, wealth, and that everyone is made in God's image (not image of God as it should be, they like to twist scripture to tempt the unsuspecting and ignorant who don't check their bibles) so that they're pure and have the right to sin. False prophets come in so many forms to sway once-Christians from the Truth so that they will not be saved. Think about it. The fewer raptured means more undergoing The Great Tribulation, chance to worship Antichrist when it gets enforced or coerced. The more souls hellbound, victory for Team Satan, right?
@@jerrodlopes186 or look at a bigger picture. The church is full of toxic, judgmental people that shame others constantly. And many sex offenders are in fundamentalist churches and they get covered for. But most are decent and loving human beings. I wouldn’t declare the latter unsaved.
some lady said she was Christian and even went to Christian college now she says she is not a Christian is she still a Christian??????? saw her message on youtube
I think the parable of the sower addresses that. Many people, when they hear the gospel, like the idea of it and embrace it initially but don’t count the costs before choosing to follow Christ. Some people are taught that only simple belief is required and they automatically obtain salvation at the moment of repeating the sinner’s prayer and that it can never be taken from them. Of course, it’s a false bill of goods.
Future Glory - Romans 8:18-30 (ESV) 18 For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us. 19 For the creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the sons of God. 20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of him who subjected it, in hope 21 that the creation itself will be set free from bondage to corruption and obtain the freedom of the glory of the children of God. 22 For we know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until now. 23 And not only the creation, but ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies. 24 For in this hope we were saved. Now hope that is seen is not hope. For who hopes for what he sees? 25 But if we hope for what we do not see, we wait for it with patience. 26 Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. 27 And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God. 28 And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. 29 For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30 And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.
1.what of people that convert from christianity to other religions? 2. What of people that after salvation later look back and go back to their sinful ways? like a dog back to its vomit... like one that puts his hands on the plough and looks back....? 3. What of those that later sell their souls to the devil and become money ritualists sacrificing their family members for worldly gain?
So if im saved nothing i do will cause me to miss the rapture? I can get high drunk sleep around whatever i want and i dont have to repent ever again bc im always saved? I know people who live gay lives but say theyre saved so theyre going to heaven?
When Christ comes we shall be like Him, perfectly! Yes! But even in this present moment we have been predestined to be conformed to His image. 1 John 3 vs 1-10 1 See what great love the Father has lavished on us, that we should be called children of God! And that is what we are! The reason the world does not know us is that it did not know him. 2 Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when Christ appears,[a] we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is. 3 All who have this hope in him purify themselves, just as he is pure. 4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he appeared so that he might take away our sins. And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him. 7 Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. The one who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous. 8 The one who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work. 9 No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God. 10 This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not God’s child, nor is anyone who does not love their brother and sister.
Remember we continue to have free will!!......and their is the unforgiveable sin against his Spirit so dont take your salvation for granted but continue in the race.
Salvation is not a FREE GIFT if the enemy can deceive you. A FREE GIFT is just that something no one can trick you out of or even if you got confused can't be taken away. A FREE GIFT has NO contingencies! It's given to keep and no one can talk you out of. Just like if I give my daughter a FREE GIFT I don't tell her , here it's a free gift BUT you can only use it on Wednesday and only if you behave yourself. Then the so- called gift has contingencies attached. Which is no longer FREE.
@@altheasimpson3320 yes you are correct, we must imitate and follow our Lord Jesus Christ living a life unto Him alone and yes God's true children will walk alone, nor will they be sitting in a church with hundreds of self professing Christians Jesus said come out and be set apart and l will show you who l AM and He has done and there l sit complete and rested which comes from within... Shalom Shalom
You must endure until the end to be saved. If you take the mark of the beast for example, you give up your faith to follow the antichrist, you give up salvation.
Wrong. Read the Entire bible. His grace gives us the ability to be saved by faith. We have a RESPONSIBILITY after we have received the grace of salvation. That responsibility is to KEEP on believing and WORK OUT our salvation in FEAR and Trembling. Read it clearly in Philippians 2:13 " work out your own salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure." So God does the work in us through the Holy Spirit, but we have a responsibility to do the next step of working out, which is a choice to obey to do. It's not forced by God. The inside job of born again is done by God, but the outside job of working out, showing, proving, our salvation is done by our will. This is what so many false teachers are ignoring.
You can't lose salvation and you can't earn heaven. Read the Bible. Salvation is GODs free gift it's not something you earn it's something you receive once you believe in the gospel of Jesus Christ that he died for your sins was buried and rose again on the 3rd day once you believe that you're saved forever
Pastor, what does Revelation mean when it talks about your light being turned out and shining no more? I've heard Pastors saying the jab is the Mark of the Beast and once taking it BY DECEPTION you have lost your Salvation?
No. The mark of the beast is about worship not logistics. Those who worship God are sealed by the Holy Spirit those who do not worship God are sealed with the mark of the beast. The mark being on forehead and hand are a reference to their worship being expressed through thought and action.
@@touchofgrace3217 Thank you. Could you look up Pastor Jerry Toney (The Mark of the Beast) here on YT and provide your thoughts on how he is coming to the jab actually being the Mark of the Beast. I ask not to disprove the Pastor but there are millions that need and are looking for TRUTH. God Bless.
@@computerguy1724 the first thing I noticed about Mr. Toney’s YT channel is that he has given himself the title of prophet. Only God can anoint someone as a prophet and once He anointed Jesus as the final prophet no other prophet was needed because everything God needed to tell us in His Word has been said. God’s Word is sufficient so we no longer need the office of prophet. People who anoint themselves as a prophet are false prophets and it would be a dangerous affair to entertain anything they have to say. Be safe Computer Guy. Keep your eyes on Christ and let the rest take care of itself.
Hebrews 10:26-31 (KJV) 26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins. 27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Exodus 32:33 KJV - And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book. Revelation 3:5 KJV - He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. Philippians 2:12 (KJV) 12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
Hebrews 6. 4-6 for it is impossible for those who where once in lightened,and have tasted the heavenly gift,and have become partakes of the Holy Spirit.5 And have tasted the powers of the age to come.6 if they fall away,* to renew them again to repentance,since they crucify again for themselves the son of God,and it him to open shame. This seems to say that it’s possible and many other scriptures
a clear license to do as one pleases" now that grace does abound must we go on sinning" .This doctrine of John McArthur is wrong giving a true Christian false hope and misleading.God is love, but also consuming fire.Notice how he intertwines one losing their salvation ,with election/predestination.People do your homework,read the Bible and you will see how absurb his statements are.These people love to cherry pick,to suit their theology
So, can an believer become a unbeliever? If so, will he be saved? In John 6:66 we see some disciples who walked with Jesus no more, were they still saved? Can you be severed from Christ and fall from grace? and still be saved? Gal 5:4 Can you depart from the faith and give heed to deceitful spirits and doctrine of demons, and still be saved? 1 Timothy 4:1 If I hate my brother you are a murderer and no murder has eternal life abiding in him 1John 3:15 so will I be saved if I hate my brother? If you do not obey God's commandments you are a LIAR and the truth is not in you, 1 John 2 :4, so will I be saved if I am a LIAR and if the truth is not in me? Rev 21:7 says that all LIARS WILL be in the lake that burns with fire and sulphur. Can I walk in darkness and be saved? or must I walk in the light? 1 John 1:6-7 Matt 7:13 Must I walk the narrow path? or can I walk the wide path and still be saved? Must I do the will of the Father who is in heaven? to be saved? Matt 7:21 If I don't will I be saved? Jesus says that every one who hears his words and does them will be like a wise man and that those who hear his words and does not do them will be like a foolish man, so can I be a foolish man and be saved? If I do the words of Jesus, am I earning my salvation? Must I be faithful unto death to receive the crown of life? or will I receive the crown of life if I don't? Rev 2💯 Can I walk after the flesh and be saved? or do I need to walk after the Spirit? Romans 8 If I conquer, my name will not be removed from the book of life, so if I do not conquer, will my name be removed from the book of life? Rev3:5 We are saved by faith, an obedient faith, not a dead faith and we become children of God by faith when we are baptized into Christ, when we put Christ on. Gal 3:26-27 So, John apparently thinks you do not have to walk in the light, you can become an unbeliever and be saved, you do not have to obey the Lord's commandments, you can fall from grace........and you will still be saved.
Amen! This "once saved always saved" preaching is from the devil, because only the devil would want humans to believe that their salvation is guaranteed, and that no matter what they do they will make it to heaven. It is foolish to believe this, and it is pure evil to preach it.
Joh 17:12 “While I was with them, I was keeping them in Your name which You have given Me; and I guarded them and not one of them perished but the son of perdition, so that the Scripture would be fulfilled. Jesus said this....your opinion doesn't matter. The fact that someone say they are a disciple or know a few scriptures or pray doesn't prove they are saved....Judas and the Pharisees are evidence of that ....
Even though I know this sometimes it’s just reassuring to hear it again 😀🇨🇦
I've always told people that once saved equals always saved; the question is are you really saved or are you just playing Church...
Amen.
You have lied then. You are not saved from your sins. You will pay.
@@ucc1-308 All Mankind is saved by His completed work on the Cross. Not all are called or given belief in this life. Yet still saved. 1 Cor 15:22
And the question is also it’s getting saved more than sincerely asking Jesus Christ into your heart knowing you can’t do anything else to be righteous. Many advocates of not believing in salvation by grace alone believes it comes with terms and conditions and if you backslide, you’re lost again. But they don’t know where to draw the line as to what constitutes being lost again, like how many sins you have to commit or how long you have to live in sin in order to be lost again
1 John 2:19 (ESV) - They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us.
Another great teacher of the true gospel......... they are so few today. ✨🙏🏻✨
When man tries to bring the understanding of God down to his level he is not accepting by faith what God has to offer. That is a true and secure salvation in Christ sealed by The Holy Spirit. Grace that is sufficient for all! Amen
Plenty of religious Christians believe and teach salvation is earned and, therefore, can be unearned. Stupid and unfortunate. Saved by grace; it's a gift.
How do you square that with Revelation 22:19?
Ttey can’t square that rebellious lie with the scriptures. They want to believe obedience is optional, that Christ wants a lazy rebellious bride. Which is the opposite of the truth.
Jesus never said. I am coming back for those who said a quick prayer and got dunked. Nope. He said I am returning for those who OBEY me. He also said. I am coming back for those who love me, and if you love you will OBEY me. Sounds like a requirement to me.
@@Nomad58just be careful you don’t believe your obedience wins your salvation friend. Because obedience doesn’t equal salvation necessarily. Obedience should be done, but believing and trusting earns you grace. Not being obedient.
@@jordanperry7954 and be careful that you think you can live a sinful lifestyle and be saved. Jesus said Many will be shocked that they are not saved in revelation. Obedience is NOT optional. Nor is obedience the same thing as works.
@@jordanperry7954 Your reply makes it clear that you believe obedience is optional.
Let’s get honest with this. Do you believe a practicing drunk or a homosexual is saved? That they will enter heaven?
John 18:9
“That the saying might be fulfilled, which he spake, Of them which thou gavest me have I lost none.”
Makes a lot of sense. We obtained salvation by faith not by works, therefore we can't lose it by works. Once the Holy Spirit dwells in you it's permanent, and He will guide you in paths of righteousness and truth.
He was playing semantics. If you are truly following Christ and not intentionally living in sin then you cannot “lose” salvation.
The real issue isn’t about whether you can arbitrarily accidentally “lose” salvation. It’s about our actual relationship with God or lack there of. The Bible makes it clear that someone who follows Christ can turn away at anytime by their own choosing. In that case they didn’t “lose” salvation, they forfeited it.
@@touchofgrace3217 No-one who is born again can become un born again.
@@lawrence1318 I’m not sure where you got that notion from but it conflicts with what Jesus said in both Matthew 13 and John 15.
@@touchofgrace3217 He who knows the Lord is one indivisible spirit with the Lord.
@@lawrence1318 That sounds great. Where is it in scripture?
Satan, Adam, Judas, and Demas all knew the Lord and walked away.
If I could DO to lose it I could also DO to earn it. Salvation is by grace, solely through absolute faith in the Lamb of God.
AMEN,NONE ARE GOOD,NO NOT ONE,GRACE COVERS A MULTITUDE OF SINS,we are fallen and can only get up by SALVATION ,ROMAN'S 10-9-10 GETS YOU INTO SHAPE FOR THE LORD OF HOSTS TO FORM YOU PERFECT IN HIS EYES,HUMAN BEINGS ARE PITIFUL OUTSIDE HIS GRACE,GOD BLESS ALL WHO LISTEN
what type of faith? dead or obedient faith?
Real faith. @@DannyLoyd
Praying for your health .pastor
Thank you Lord for grace, thank you for Godly teachers !
How does one reconcile once saved always saved with the parable of the sower? There are people who receive the word and believe it but fall away when difficulty come. There are people whose faith is choked by their love of the world which can be money, loved ones, careers, i.e. loving anything more than Christ (a lot of believers fit in that category).
It is only the crop that produces fruit that will be spared.
Matthew 13 vs 18-23
18 “Listen then to what the parable of the sower means: 19 When anyone hears the message about the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what was sown in their heart. This is the seed sown along the path. 20 The seed falling on rocky ground refers to someone who hears the word and at once receives it with joy. 21 But since they have no root, they last only a short time. When trouble or persecution comes because of the word, they quickly fall away. 22 The seed falling among the thorns refers to someone who hears the word, but the worries of this life and the deceitfulness of wealth choke the word, making it unfruitful. 23 But the seed falling on good soil refers to someone who hears the word and understands it. This is the one who produces a crop, yielding a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown.”
John 6:70 "Then Jesus replied, “Have I not chosen you, the Twelve? Yet one of you is a devil!” Judas was never saved. Jesus knew his heart from the beginning. Only God can tell if someone's confession is real, for it is only God who gives man a new heart and new will. We only see outward confessions and works, so we cannot be accurate judges, only God can. When Jesus said that one of the 12 would betray Him, not one of the disciples suspected Judas, they all wondered if it was themselves. That just shows how well Judas blended in outwardly. Yet Jesus knew his heart.
1 John 2:19 "They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us."
Luke 22:19 “Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift all of you as wheat. But I have prayed for you, Simon, that your faith may not fail." And when you have turned back, strengthen your brothers.” Jesus knew Peter would betray Him, yet He prayed for him, interceded on his behalf so that he may not fall away from faith. And so even today, Christ is interceding for us as we know, at the right hand of God. We have been purchased by His blood. We are born again. We are a new creation, with a new heart and a new will.
John 10:28 -30 "I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all[a]; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand."
We can be deceived about our own salvation, for our hearts are deceitful and desperately wicked. We can have faulty judgements on other's salvation, but not God. The Lord knows His own. And He keeps them. Once saved, always saved, is better described when being said, truly saved, always saved.
@@kristianjensen6333 I agree with you how Judas was never saved. I've heard some people say how Judas was an ex-Christian. Judas never was a Christian. Judas was someone who went to church regularly, was a fan of the Christian religion, gave Christianity a test drive, etc, but Judas never accepted Christ in his heart and meant it in his heart, never surrendered his life to Christ, never put his trust in Jesus, etc.
@@kristianjensen6333God really used your words to clear this up for me this makes perfect sense to me. Thank you ♥️🫂
Those who deny that salvation can ever be lost, reason on the subject in a contrary way.
They tell us, that no virgin’s lamp can go out; (Matt.25:8-12) no promising harvest be choked with thorns;(Mark 4:3-9)
no branch in Christ can ever be cut off from unfruitfulness; (John 15:5-6) no pardon can be forfeited(1Cor.9:27) (Isaiah 63:8-10)(Matt.18:21-35);
and no name blotted out of God's book (Rev. 3-5). They maintain that no salt can lose its savor (Luke14:34-35);nobody can ever receive the grace of God in vain (1 Cor.15:1-2)(2 Cor.6:1-2); bury his talents (Matt.25:14-30)
neglect such great salvation'(Heb.2:3-4)
Using grace as a license to sin'(Jude 4);
Jesus stresses total commitment: “No one who puts a hand to the plow and looks back is fit for service in the kingdom of God” (Luke 9:62).
Nobody can ‘grieve the Spirit’ till He is ‘quenched,(Eph.4:30)(1 Thess 5:19);
and strives no more,(Heb.12:14).
nor ‘deny the Lord that bought them’; nor ‘bring upon themselves swift destruction.’
(2 Peter2:1-4).
No believers
that once knew God but did not retain God in their knowledge by going back to a life of continuous unrepentant sin somehow think
that God wouldn't give them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
(Romans 1:21-32).
They reason that how you live is irrelevant to eternal destiny since Jesus did it all
there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie
(Revelation 21:27)
Nobody, or body of believers, can ever get so lukewarm that Jesus will spew them out of His mouth.
(Rev 3:15-19).
I wish you the best earning your salvation.
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For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.
Mark 10:45 (KJV)
Thanks for sharing this treasure
Salvation can be lost through the decision to turn away. Scripture is full of teachings and warnings about turning to things that will end up with you lost.
Obedience and works are NOT the same thing. And obedience is absolutely required as the entire Bible testifies too.
" Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin." romans 3:20 remember, the law brings the knowledge of sin, so do not the verses of law?
"For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all." James 2:10
" For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous." romans 5:19
"For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified." hebrews 10:14
the one offering of Christ perfected for ever..
why are you trusting in the sinner for salvation and do you not completely trust in Jesus. if you believe he died for all of your sins (past present and future) and when you believe he has risen for you justification and you are sealed with the Holy Spirit?? is that not the saving grace??? ( just trying to help I dont know it all) "whoever lives and believes in me will never die. believest thou this?. John 11:26 John 3:16 Acts 16:31 Mark 1:15 Romans 4:5 Mark 16:16, 1 corithians 15:1-4. ephesians 2:8-10 Acts 2:38 John 5:24 etc etc
@@brunobangu6179 define what Jesus meant when he said “Believes in me”
@@Nomad58I would say believe that he died for all of your sins past present and future and was risen from the dead for your justification. Which is by what we are saved according to 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. we have been reconciled back with the father through faith in Christ his blood romans 3:25. Many misunderstand, if He paid for all of your sins and you believe that, for what sin are you going to hell when you are a believer? Believers are a new creation in Christ Jesus, when born again the Holy Spirit lives in our heart convicts us of sin.
We know we are saved by grace through faith, what is the grace that saves us we must identify. Christ paying for all of your sins and Him rising for your justification. That is the grace by which we are saved are we not? So believe that Jesus is the Son of God who died for ALL of your sins and had perfected you forever like the scriptures say by ONE offering. Not like in the old days when we sin we have to offer something again.
If you believe/trust in your own obedience for heaven the object of your faith is you, you are believing in yourself. If you believe/ trust in Jesus his finished work for your salvation the object of your faith is Jesus Christ and you are believing in Him for salvation are you not?
The true gospel is truly beautiful. This is a nice one for you, “Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.” Titus 3:5-7
Put your faith in The Savior not the sinner.
@@brunobangu6179 you never answered the question. What do you think it means to be IN Christ Jesus?
Remember obedience and works are not the same thing
I couldn't agree more. John 6:39-40 "This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”
It may be the will of the Father, but unless we press on with Him we will not inherit what was promised. Jesus said that those who overcome to the end will have eternal life. The question remains: will you continue to the end?
No one has salvation this side of glory. We live in the hope of salvation and exercise faith in the consciousness of Christ so that we will inherit it.
@@removingveils5824 Beware of people who speak of the word but cannot back it up with Scripture.
@@horsejumpride8423 I do. Hence my comment regarding the false doctrine that John teaches.
If you watch carefully you will see that he hardly ever supports his dogma with scripture and reason. And when he does use a scripture it is without reason; for you need both to support a proclaimed truth.
The key is given in v40. Believes (in your translation) is continuous present tense and therefore is really believed and continues to believe. The father and the son here have a common will, but that does not mean the will shall be fulfilled. We know what God's will for Israel was and what happened to them. We are warned three times in the NT about them; they lost faith.
@@thevoiceofonecallingout True belief in Christ expects obedience from the heart. Paul calls it the obedience of faith (Rom 1:5; 16:26). Belief without obedience is useless for salvation and is not faith. True faith in Christ is the consciousness of His ever-presence which leads to obedience from the heart.
The "salvation of God by His grace" has been God's plan revealed in His Eternal Covenant made in contract with His Son, then promised to us, exemplified in the faithful life of Abraham, and the very beginning of His creation of the world. Grace all the way, Faith all the way.
I have been through so much in my life when I was 5 years old I was given up for adoption and left in the hospital the woman that gave birth to me the one that cuddled me and said she loved me left me and then when I was 13 years old I went to visit her and she told my adopted mother I never want to see him again he's a nut people have been rejecting me my whole life and then Jesus comes along and Promises me he will never leave me nor forsake me and I have left him sometimes but still he draws me back and he loves me can you imagine what it would be like to me when I finally find someone who loves me and cares for me and someone tells me yeah be careful because he could just throw you away can you imagine that finally I find somebody who loves me unconditionally and cares for me and someone else is going to tell me be careful cuz he could just cast you away what a terrible thing to tell people this shows me that they are ignorant and they do not know the true God because the true God has told me never will I leave you nor forsake you so I can cling to him and trust in him and I know that even if I am faithless he still remains faithful because he cannot stop being God this is what I struggled with waiting for the moment that God would be like the rest of them and reject me and cast me away but he won't he's the only one I can trust who won't say he loves me and then burn me and I know this the only reason I go to heaven is because of what Jesus did upon the cross the blood he shed for me purchased me thank you Jesus
I don't need glory, I don't want glory, I just long to be loved.
Hi Marty 👍
Do you want to talk about it?
Only Jesus can love you the way that you are seeking to be loved.
Jesus is loving you and hugging you every second of your life.
Pretend that Jesus is behind you wherever you go and talk to Him wherever you go.
@@SCAM-BUSTER.777 Great reply!
@@jamesfloyd1864
Hi James
Thank you for your approval 😊👍
@@SCAM-BUSTER.777 I understand theologically that God loves us - for the Bible says God is love. I have never felt it at all. I was born, as I like to say, "terminally insecure", and am for all practical purposes, inept and incompetent. I am 61, and have never dated, let alone married. I live alone (go figure), and since my father died in2011, have felt extremely alone, as he was the only one from who I felt love. Apart from work, I see my one friend once a week. I know that emotions/feelings have nothing to do with the truth of God's word, but it damn would FEEL/be nice to be accepted/loved.
@@greenwich1754
Hi Marty
Thanks for replying.
Thank you for sharing this with us.
I'm 70.
I live on my own.
Let's be pen friends for a little while.
Other people may join in the conversation, so I will put a 🇬🇧 at the start of my short replies to you ok?
Col 1..19-25...saved if indeed we continue in him only
What I’ve been QUICKLY learning is to never use a verse to justify a point but keep it all in context of the chapter and book/epistles. There’s always a “…but!” to some of these verses
I respect Pastor John, but I don't agree with him here. This is a huge part of Christianity and I look to Galatians 5:18-21. Paul is preaching to those who are saved, not unbelievers. He list multiple sins that will keep you from receiving the Kingdom of God. Chuck Smith gives a great sermon on this. If what Chuck Smith, as well as many other pastors, says is true, you best know the truth about your assurance of salvation.
We must be His imitator and follow His Word only, not a church, a pastor or another person no matter how Godly they themselves say they are.
We must come as a child, in humility trusting Jesus in every single area in our lives, Jesus the Healer. Jesus the Restorer. Jesus the Comforter.
You see, when we are His child we will not go to another to be spirituality fed.
Because of one scripture saying we must not forsake the assembly of meeting together.
First we must meet with our Lord God Almighty, thee Living Jesus who comes to dwell within us and when that happens l can 100% guarantee that you will not run to a church, where a man is preaching, nope we sit with Jesus and He feeds us what we need so as to enter a pure, holy, righteous Kingdom
That is what Jesus has me do and it good as there us no other place l must be, just to sit at His Feet and be still.
and you are where you should be, in Jesus, not in one of these churches with their pastors teaching people the easy broad path. Jesus isnt found in a church, hes not found in a bible either as most think but he is the living son of God whom God sat at his right hand giving him all authority in heaven and Earth.
People hold the bible as if its what saves a person and its become an idol almost, but scripture is only a guide that points us all to Jesus, not back at itself.
We are to go to Jesus, like you said, not spend our lives studying scripture trying to be some bible scholar and be able to wow people with bible knowledge, nor spend our time being taught mens doctrines "about Jesus" at a church.
We go to Jesus himself and listen to HIS words and obey him only. HE is the living word of God, not a book and definitely not a church.
"Many will say to me on that day, Lord, Lord......" you know the rest and its all these pastors and church dwellers that will be saying this on that day.
I fear Jesus will say this to me as well, but I pray that I come to know him and he knows me
God so loved the world as to give His Only Begotten Son so that whosoever believes in Him may not perish; but may have life everlasting (John 3:16). Our Lord prayed during the Last Supper for the future generations, who "through their word, shall believe in Me (John 17:20)." Our Lord also said, "Unless you eat My Flesh and drink My Blood, you do not have life in you (John 6:53)" and "he that eats My Flesh and drinks My Blood has everlasting life (John 6:55)." Yes, God loves all human beings, created in His Image and Likeness, and wishes that all come to the knowledge of Truth and be saved (1 Tim 2:4). To save them, Word of God was incarnated, sacrificed Himself for our redemption, and instituted His Church (Matt 16:18) with which He remains always, until the end of ages (Matt 28:20). But not all will be saved because of wrong choice made, misusing the free will God has given everyone by rejecting the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church, which He Heads and Saves (Eph 5:23), and following other teachings and one's own desires and ways. "You search scriptures, but you do not want to come to Me that you may have Life (John 5:39-40)." God does not force the eternal salvation on men, but leaves each man free to choose its own eternal destiny. Why would anyone want to remain outside of His Church and, thus, risk one's eternal life? Therefore, choose wisely, brothers and sisters, so that you may be counted among the Redeemed! Time is urgent!
We are advised to not leave fellowship but trafficers abuse good families there that are either trafficers themselves or gamblers or anything a good human won't even know. Those that don't respect them because they had been evil core yet come there to just obey, might be last row runaways to keep themselves from polgamy culture and criminal violation cultures, where God tells not even to sit with them.
Hallelujah!!!! This is True. Our God is forever Blessed. He feeds us and shepherds us, fighting all our battles, Amen.
@@TimKollat yes it's us children that must come and abide in Him alone
All that you wrote is correct with having a broken and a contrite spiral that knows our Lord God Almighty Jesus Christ
That is the only way we can come as a child having no hope in ourselves
I bow before Him continually in my day never ever to think myself mightier than another just more broken from my will it is those children who can be used to bring forth the true word of God
That's only because it was Jesus who first drew us
Many are called yet few are chosen
He told me l was chosen when l didn't know anything about Him other that I could see a man in spirit walking with me after a brain injury that changed my life so so much yet today l am completely healed and now l can say that l know our Living God Almighty Jesus Christ
Shalom Shalom to you this day Amen
I was saved at a young age and have grown and walked in truth. Right now, I love the Lord and am on fire for Him! I read and pray all I can every day! What happens if I commit apostasy in 20 years and deny the faith? What if I commit murder, too, and I never repent? If it happens, MacArthur might say that I was never saved. Well, then, how can I know for sure that I am actually saved now?
You see the wrong thing that people think is to assume and believe that they are saved in the first place. The truth is; as long as you remain in fellowship with the Savior, you are in the sphere of salvation. You have that You see the wrong thing that people think is to assume and believe that they are saved in the first place. The truth is; as long as you remain in fellowship with the Savior, you are in the sphere of salvation. You have that hope of salvation remains in you. When you walk out of that zone, you will go astray and you will have a hard time finding your way back. “If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: *if we deny him, he also will deny us:”* (2 Timothy 2:12) There is no complete salvation given to any believers in this present time. We are only saved by hope (see Romans 8:24-25). We are not completely saved yet. If complete salvation has already been given to the believers, then the warnings in the epistles are pointless. What’s the need of warning them if they’re already completely saved? After all that makes no sense, right? But as you see, there is the so-called balance of God’s calling to salvation. And that is God’s sovereignty against men’s responsibility.
If.you are saved sealed with the Holy Spirit, your conscience will not allow you to be continue in sin for a long time, you will not be comfortable. You cannot make sin a practise, like David the very moment Prophet Nathan spoke to him, repentance followed, so is the Holy Spirit will convict you if you are genuinely saved by faith in the finished works ie the gospel 1cor15V1-4. 1John2:19
Thank You for helping ❤
Salvation is dependent on our daily surrender to God. Salvation can be lost.
Ezekiel 33:13 says, “When I say to the righteous that he shall surely live, but he trusts in his own righteousness and commits iniquity, none of his righteous works shall be remembered; but because of the iniquity that he has committed, he shall die.”
SALVATION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH US WE CANT SAVE OURSELVES NOR CAN WE KEEP OUR SALVATION/ READ UR BIBLE JESUS DID IT ALL
I wonder how come many Pastors neglect to tell their congregations the many chapters and verse's that explain how to lose your salvation!!! Maybe fear of losing their congregation?
thats exactly why. They know how to keep the seats filled and donations flowing
Exactly
😄 it is really worrisome.
That's not true at all! Pastors shouldn't spread that false narrative that one can "lose " their salvation. Think about it for a minute...if one could actually lose their salvation., then no one in this world could ever have assurance, since all I have to do is sin, and presto, I'm not saved, and have to be saved all over again. That makes no sense and won't hold up to good sound biblical teaching. Think of the Bible as a law book, (and it is)if my sins were paid for, I can't be held as guilty anymore, as Jesus paid not just for my past and present sins, but future as well. For me to be declared guilty before God, would be "double jeopardy." That would be unrighteous. The true believer also knows salvation is not a license to sin "all I want." Rather now my whole relationship to sin is completely different than it was before conversion. I HATE IT! Although. I still have the capability to sin. Salvation means slowly gaining victory over sins even though we'll never be perfect on this present world. People that claim to have lost their salvation were never saved from the beginning.
@@victorcroker2765 that is a good explanation of a worldly christian view!!! And I can see that you have a worldly spirit And I'll let the scripture's explain why. Get your Bible and read Matthew 7:21-24
Verse 21 notice JESUS not everyone who says Lord Lord shall enter into the kingdom, that's making a proclamation of knowing JESUS CHRIST as GOD'S son and our savior! Shall enter into the kingdom! But only them that do GOD'S WILL. You see many false teachers openly call JESUS a liar by calling this a works gospel! Verse 22 notice many in that day, many means a multitude, great number, in that day=judgement day!!! Also notice these Christians were endowed with GOD'S holy spirit to prophecy, to cast out devil's and to do many miracle's! And many false teachers blaspheme against the holy spirit by saying that these Christians were never saved!!! GOD does not give his HOLY SPIRIT to the lost! You will find that in Matthew 12:22-37! Verse 23 in this verse JESUS says I never knew you= that means I never approved of you (approved of their behavior) !!! Verse 24 again notice JESUS says hearing his words and doeth them!!! He calls those christians wise!!! They built their house on the rock which is JESUS CHRIST!!! So we see hear that christians that hear the word only and don't obey them! And don't have a strong foundation in JESUS CHRIST. Will not inherit the kingdom. Please read 2-thessalonians 2-10. In Matthew chapter 25 JESUS CHRIST dedicates this whole chapter and warns against the loss of our salvation!!! Verses 1-13 the foolish not preparing for the kingdom, quenching of the HOLY SPIRIT by not obaying him!!! Verse 14-30 being a lazy servant, christian. Verse 31-46 not having love and compassion for others!!! And don't forget the sin of Apostasy Hebrews 6:4-8!!! So these are just a few of the verses where JESUS CHRIST and the Apostle's warn us christians on how to lose our salvation!!! I encourage you to read and study your Bible and not just be a hearer of the word only!!!! It is GOD'S requirement for us to learn the word of GOD so we as christians will know who the false prophets, teachers are!!! We do not want to follow them to hell!!!
Once saved, always saved AS LONG as we remain in Jesus. He doesn’t force anyone to remain in Him. It is our daily choice. In 1 Corinthians 9:27 the apostle Paul said, “ But I discipline my body and bring it into subjection, lest, when I have preached to others, I myself should become disqualified.”
Stop adding on to gods word…it’s once saved always saved or not. No true believer ever walks away for good that’s how u know who really believed to begin with
@@yamomma5053you said no good christian and that is what makes the difference.The bible says Christ is able to keep us from falling if only we yield to Him.Learn your Bible and work out your salvation with fear and trembling.Once you have been saved,you are saved if only you deny self and follow Christ.
Disqualified to preach
Does that mean that a righteous person cannot be lost no matter what?
Lord lord I cast out demons in your name depart for me you evil and wicked one I know you not so where does that come into being once saved always save when the preachers from the pulpit are preaching God's word I blot you out of the book of Life How about all the people who says they won't inherit the Kingdom of God liars murderers adulterers homosexuals etc Makes sense once saved always saved so I could live my life any way I want and then just show up for heaven sure sounds that way to me I'm really sorry that this man and other people believe this I hope that this message finds somebody's heart and knows that they have to commit their way to the Lord and make him Lord of your life I love you brothers and sisters You love somebody you will tell them the truth and the truth Set you free That before you today life and death choose life
People don't lose their salvation because they do something bad or sin. Rather, they lose their salvation because their beliefs change and they stop believing in Jesus. I've seen it happen. Very eager young man. Watched him lead worship and go on walks praying during retreats. No way you can convince it was fake or he was never really saved. Then he went to college and started hanging with sinful "christians", the kind Paul said don't even eat with. He started drinking. Then he started smoking pot. Then he started believing in universalism. Then he became an aetheist. His beliefs slowly died. I know he believed at one time because his actions showed it. Now he doesn't. Read the parable of the seeds. Some seeds germinated meaning they accepted the gospel but they later perished for various reasons. Jesus said anyone who takes up the plow and looks back is not worthy. It is possible for beliefs to change, even a Christian's.
Yes and that the bible mentioned about the falling away and warns us of deceivers in the last days. Who else could be falling away and from what? Non-Christians aren't falling as they have already fallen. Therefore the falling away are specifically in reference to Christians falling from their faith and succumbing to deceiving spirits. I was one of these but the Lord recalled me earlier this year. Maybe He could use me for promoting His glory? I've never read the bible with this much interest ever. Salvation is for everyone but it is up to them to accept it. Those who accept will be saved. You lose it when you CHOOSE to pursue other interests contradictory to Scripture. You lose it when you chose to pursue wealth, power, fame, control, lust.... as these become your gods and you can't serve 2 masters.
@@DoNotLetThemStealYourJoy Amen. Me too. Continue in the things which you have learned. God bless
This is so sad to hear 😢 Reminds me of the verse 2 Peter 2:19-21 (ESV) - They promise them freedom, but they themselves are slaves of corruption. For whatever overcomes a person, to that he is enslaved. For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world through the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first. For it would have been better for them never to have known the way to righteousness than after knowing it to turn back to the holy commandment delivered to them.
I know it happened to me and I don't believe.
@@SillyChickens222 don't be sad, be happy you're one of the Chosen. God could have chosen all who profess they're Christians but he chose the Born-again. Sifting wheat from tares, true believers from pharisees. That is why it is emphasised in Revelation 19:9 "And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God".
This unfortunately is the fatal flaw in Catholicism in that they believe and misinterpret that 'good works' will take you to heaven, when it's salvation alone through Christ alone that saves, and that good works (living a Godly life aka Fruits of the Spirit) will follow those who are saved as a sign to others of their salvation.
Can you lose your salvation? well, it depends if you’re a catholic, cause for them their good works are their saving grace…
A lot of his preaching is accurate. The one thing that I take exception to is that when he preaches to his congregation, it's always assumed that all the members of his church are "saved" since they're all "confessing members". All that does is lead members into a false sense of security. Big, big mistake as no matter where you go, it's always a "remnant" that are actually saved. As for the commentary at the top, it is true that many, many so called preachers choose to go center stage with their heresy, and are "false" indeed, however don't mistake intelligence and education for confirmation that somehow these preachers are legitimate. In a world enamored with education, it's assuring to know education never saved anyone...Period! I can remember Billy Graham holding the title of "America's Go To Preacher." Truth comes from God's Holy Spirit, and not our intelligent minds. Just like salvation, God gives truth to who he wants , when he wants, if he wants.
If you're referring to his use of "we" and "us" during this clip, I do think it might be good to remember that scripture uses similar language in places, like when Paul addresses the churches in his letters. Of course Paul understood that these churches were going to have unbelievers in them, and he certainly made time in his letters to address those things. But he also makes plenty of time to address believers, and even calling them brothers, without always reminding them that his words may not really apply to some of them. I would also disagree with the statement that John MacArthur always assumes his congregation is saved, if that's what you are saying. I don't think that's a fair conclusion to make from a short clip. John MacArthur is certainly not one to shy away from the hard truths, and he has given many sermons of warning against false professions of faith and has even told that very congregation that many of them may not actually be saved. But there are also times when true believers need to hear encouragement and have their faith nourished by reminders of who Christ is and all He has accomplished, and that message doesn't have to be loaded with constant reminders of "but only if..."
Eddie m macarthur praises and shows special partiality to his congregation in every video l stopped listening to him when he decided to send everyone to hell stop playing god macarthur
So what do you do with the parable of the Seed and Sower?
So what do you do about the parable of the Good Servant and the bad servant?
What Jesus is doing here is hyperboly.
Basically Jesus is saying that He is very angry at the person who doesn't use the resources that He has given to each individual.
@@SCAM-BUSTER.777 He says that the servant who hid his talent will be cast into the outer darkness. That's a lot worse than Jesus just being angry with him. The parable of the seed and the sower talks about one type of soil where the seed germinates but withers and dies. That's the example of a person who once believed but then turns from salvation.
@@jerrodlopes186
Hi Jerrod
My comments are for discussion sake, not argument sake ok 👍
Lots of articles have been written about this subject.
As far as I can remember the germinate part of it was that it just stayed in people's consciousness. They didn't take it that seriously, so it just disappeared from their consciousness in a very short time.
They didn't believe in their heart and confess with mouth. So because of this they hadn't received the holy spirit in the first place.
Chuck Missler at Koinonia House is a very good place to do your bible study.
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"And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day." These words are from Jesus's mouth.
@@richardharmon647
So is "cast into outer darkness".
I agree how people can't lose their salvation. There's a lot of Bible verses such as 1 John 2:19, 1 John 5:13, and John 10:28 that show how people can't lose their salvation. When someone accepts Christ in their heart and means it in their heart, repents and turns away from being a slave to sin, surrenders their life to Christ, put their trust in Christ, etc, God changes them, and they experience all kinds of changes in their life due to God changing them such as being born again, being a new creation, having a changed heart, not being a slave to sin anymore (they still sin, still have sin weaknesses, still have sin struggles, still make mistakes in life, still aren't perfect, etc but aren't slaves to sin anymore), wanting to live for the Lord, wanting to serve the Lord, always being saved, never walking away and abandoning the faith, never becoming an ex-Christian, persevering in the faith until the end, enduring in the faith until the end, etc. This is how God changes someone when they become saved.
Please review the following verses regarding falling away. I don't believe John addresses these. We shouldn't pretend they're not there. Mat 6:15, 12:31, 24:12-13, Mar 3:29, Luk 8:13, 9:62, Jhn 10:27-29, 15:6, Rom 11:20-22, Heb 6:4-6, 10:26-29, 2Pe 2:20-21, Col 1:21-23, 1Ti 5:15, Jas 5:19-20, Rev 2:4-5, 3:16, 19
Wont know for sure until we are seated at the wedding supper of
The lamb and wearing the wedding
Garment of Jesu blood and
Righteousness!
You can know for sure by reading scripture.
The letter killeth the spirit gives life
Solomon apostacisied
Yet repented later
7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Matthew
We are being saved daily ...not once save always save ...
"I NEVER KNEW YOU. Depart from Me, you evil doers" (Matt 7:23). You read scriptures, but understand them in your own human way for your own peril and not in the Spirit and Truth in which one must worship God (John 4:24). To teach all peoples down to the end of times in Spirit and Truth so that they may believe in Me (John 17:20) and thus may have eternal life (John 3:16), I founded My Church (Matt 16:18), the Roman Catholic Church, and sent them to baptize and teach all nations to observe ALL that I have commanded (Matt 28:20). I said, "Whoever listens to you, listens to Me. Whoever rejects you, rejects Me and rejects the One who sent Me (Luke 10:16)." Some of you do not believe (John 6:36) ALL I have spoken and commanded. Whoever rejects Me and does not accept My Words has something to judge him; the word that I spoke, it will condemn him on the last day (John 12:48). You do not believe because you are not among My sheep (John 10:26). My sheep hears My voice and I KNOW THEM and they follow Me (John 10:27).
Our Lord is very grieved and suffers by those who reject His Church and follow separated churches founded by men, not by God-man, who teach heresies and a partial truth, blind leading blind (Matt 15:14). These are branches separated from the Vine by their own free will and will be thrown into a fire (John 15:6) if they do not graft onto the Vine. Even though they proclaim the Name of Our Lord, they are the ones who deserve His words "Depart from Me, you evil doers." Why evil doers? Because they pretend to be sent by God to teach, use the Name of the Lord for their own interests, lure unsuspecting souls using the Gospel and then, mislead and confuse them who, out of ignorance, do not know the True Way, obstruct them from finding the True Church and Faith, and teach heresies and a partial truth as the Truth, endangering souls to perdition. All their work is against Our Lord and helps His enemy, therefore, is evil.
Brothers and sisters in Christ, why risk your eternal salvation by remaining in Error? Time is urgent since we are now living through the great tribulations and the appearance of the Antichrist (2 Thes 2:8) is very near. Like the prodigal son (Luke 15:11-32), return quickly to the Father's House, the Catholic Church, Our Lord's Sheepfold, before it is too late and make Heaven rejoice. Our Lord said, "Unless you eat My Flesh and drink My Blood, you do not have life in you (John 6:53). And he that eats My Flesh and drinks My Blood has everlasting life (John 6:55)." Don't remain as unbelievers to whom Our Lord said, "you search scriptures, but you will not come to Me that you may have life (John 5:39-40)." Our Lord is waiting for you with open arms and loving heart in His Church to save you, giving Himself in His Body and Blood (Luke 22:19-20, Matt 26:26-28)! May God bless you and lead you along His Way!
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@@hyeminkwun9523 lol where does it mention "Catholic Church"? Be careful the Lord has this to say about bible editors:
"For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book" (Revelation 22:18 KJV)
The Catholic Church has an integral part to play in the Great Tribulation. Many bible scholars and researchers have decoded the 2nd beast to be the Papacy as the description fits it to the T. Catholicism is indeed modern day Babylonianism with the New Testament thrown in. Why do Catholics have so many parties to intercede when the Bible specifically stated "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."
(John 14:6 KJV).
The fact that Catholics (who have not confessed their sins to God the Father through Jesus Christ) have a part to play in The Great Tribulation means they are not raptured. Of course there are Catholics on paper and believe the dispensation of Grace who will be saved. Nobody else can forgive sin, not even the high priest for they are mortal and their cleansing is man made law not God's law be careful.
Jesus is the one conducting the rapture therefore if you had other parties to intercede for you, you are indeed disrespecting Him because you don't trust He sacrificed Himself for your sins.
There is one unpardonable sin in the sight of God. This was after people said Christ has an impure spirit.
Mark 3 vs 28-29
28 Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter, 29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin.”
Glory to God through His son :
Why?
What does James 2:24 mean? ESV You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. NIV You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone. NASB You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.
How do you square that with Revelation 22:19?
Holy Spirit guide us but won't force us.. We are given free will to rebel..
Impossíble to lose salvation
Jesus paid All our debt in cross
And yet, God says that your sins are not forgiven if you refuse to forgive others. And if your sins are not forgiven, how can you go to Heaven? I learned this from a Baptist pastor who had the wisdom to teach the entirety of scripture. As he used to say, if you’re walking holy and being obedient to the Lord…then “once saved always saved”.
I sooo agree ..
Test yourselves to see if you are in THE faith; examine yourselves!
2nd Corinthians 13:5
I'm a little bit struggling eith this one of once save always saved doctrine. Why is galatians 5vs 15 paul says
As for you, my friends, you were called to be free. But do not let this freedom become an excuse for letting your physical desires control you. Instead, let love make you serve one another. 14 For the whole Law is summed up in one commandment: “Love your neighbor as you love yourself.” 15 But if you act like wild animals, hurting and harming each other, then watch out, or you will completely destroy one another 3:51 are those Christians who say but not live the true gospel will they be save then who are those peoplw God is going to judge and throw them in the lake of fire if they are not written in the book of life?
That which cannot be gained by moral perfection, cannot be lost by moral imperfection… Anyone who asks this question does not understand the gospel of Grace…PERIOD!!!… The smallest amount of merit in gaining or maintaining salvation defiles the Gospel…
Hebrews 6 vs 1-6
1 Therefore let us move beyond the elementary teachings about Christ and be taken forward to maturity, not laying again the foundation of repentance from acts that lead to death,[a] and of faith in God, 2 instruction about cleansing rites,[b] the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment. 3 And God permitting, we will do so.
4 It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, 5 who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age 6 and who have fallen[c] away, to be brought back to repentance. To their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.
Also saved people can sin badly and for a long time, and he or she will never lose salvation. Turd who reads this and disagrees, please feel free to challenge me.
This isn't to say they don't care, even though it can look like it, and this isn't to say they don't experience the discipline of the Lord.
I agree 100%. If the lord wanted us to be free of sin, then he wouldn't have left us in this sinful body.
@@garvinsmith4555 how do you deal with people who say, if you don’t work, you were not saved to begin with? Because clearly there are saved people who sometimes live for themselves like David and Jonah?
Not everybody had their names written in the book of life from the beginning, but anyone can have their name be "blot out".
@@alexnastasi2681 nope, the original translation from the Greek means have their part taken away from the tree of life, not names blotted out from the book of life. The verse you’re talking of is found at the end of revelation.
This means they won’t have anything to do with the tree of life as their part is removed. Doesn’t mean they had a part there to begin with it just says that to illustrate the point of they will have no part in it. Those who have their names written in the book of life since the beginning will remain there those who haven’t have been destined to reject God.
@@alil6547 Exodus 32:33 The Lord replied to Moses, “Whoever has sinned against me I will blot out of my book.
We have a responsibility though as believers, John 15 Jesus said that if a man does not abide on the vine will just like a branch be gathered and burned, it was a warning for us today to stay connected to Him in prayer and obedience or we will lose our salvation
You call Jesus Christ a liar John macarthur!
Your teaching is a heresy
Jesus said that God gave us eternal life so how can eternal become un-eternal! Thank God for His eternal glory! Col.1:27.
praise the only true living LORD and GOD bless you all glory be to the HOLY TRINITY forever and ever amen 💖✝️✝️✝️
There is no glory in a Trinity. It does not exist. Only the true God exists.
being lulled to sleep by easy on the ears doctrines such as this once saved always saved. This is what keeps people in church and the donations flowing.
If any pastor taught the teachings of Jesus, he would have an empty church.
These doctrines like "just repeat what it says at Romans 10:9 and your saved no matter what" are keeping people on that wide easy path.
Who was sent, only to the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel?
@@rick3313 Jesus was sent to the lost sheep of Israel.
Who was also sent by God?
"there was a man sent by God whos name was John" Was John the Baptist in heaven then was sent down to Earth?
Jesus tells his disciples that he sends them into the world in the SAME way he was sent into the world by his God and Father, but they were also to go to all the gentiles baptizing them and teaching them everything Jesus commanded.
Were all his disciples up in heaven then were sent down in order to go into the world?
Where was Jesus when he was sent by God? Was he up in heaven as God himself as John 1:1 is misinterpreted to say?
or was he a man on Earth and was sent into the world after his baptism and spirit of God descending upon him when the man Jesus became the word of God?
@@TimKollat Copy that. I just wanted to differentiate between what was preached to the Jews, vs what Paul preached to the nation's.
I hate the lies. Salvation lies. But Gods word tells not to leave fellowship, all seem like might be prostitute connected or money launderers to me. Why the hell should I go to church? I am scared some prostitute or polygamist might destroy what I loved and lived perfect because of the reliance I had in Gods word. Lies trafficers, prostitutes is what I cross there...why should a pure family go there?????
Mojo jojo
So you keep yourself saved? How so?
Lyrics from a song get to know me get to know me get to show me love then you can lead me 🤣
This a glorious truth, infalible.
Unless you go by the Holy Bible instead of what John Macarthur says.
@eddie Once saved always saved is glorious???😩 He’s leading people to hell thinking they have a pass to live abominable lifestyles. 🥲
Why does Paul talk about preaching so that he may not be disqualified? Also, it speaks of breaking off the unfruitful branches and throwing them into the fire.
There are dozens of scriptures that say we can loose our Salvation.
Even Paul was concerned that he could loose his Salvation.
1 Corinthians 9:27
27No, I strike a blow to my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize.
2 Peter 2:20-22
If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. 21It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. 22Of them the proverbs are true: “A dog returns to its vomit,” and, “A sow that is washed returns to her wallowing in the mud.”
Paul knows he doesn't loose his salvation. Ok.
Paul was dealing with his sin nature..ok
That's why he says he finds two laws at work in himself...make sense now John?
The scriptures you quote are the tares in the church, these false converts say they believe outwardly but inwardly they hate God.
@@ferrosjewellers4558
How can a person *"escape the corrupt:on that is in the world"* if they never stopped being apart of the world ?
How can a person "return to their vom:t" if they never vom:ted ?
Everyone knows that people are able to believe at one time and not believe at another. Yet you Calvinists ignore this. Peter believed when he got out of the boat and walked on water and then doubted later and began to sink. Salvation is through faith
@@toddperez9023 Thank you for a very reasonable answer.
@@toddperez9023 seems you can't reconsile scriptures.. You come across as blind.!
Scripture addresses both true believers and false believers. Both the tares and the wheat.
Who said I was a calvinist?
Matthew 7:21
"Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
We are born dead. Our names are not in the Lamb's book of life when we are born. Only when we get saved is it written in the book of life. So then, when God says he can blot out your name from the book of life, who is he talking about? You have to be saved to be in it to begin with.
Please brothers help me I dont get the bullet point the bible both teaches we cant lose and also in peter 2 it refers to some christians ''it is impossible to some to recover them in repentance who in one time beleive then fall''
wow amen brother
It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age and who have fallen away, to be brought back to repentance. To their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.
Hebrews 6:4-6 NIV
If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning.
2 Peter 2:20 NIV
For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either. Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off.
Romans 11:21-22 NIV
MacArthur's opinion is oversimplified and ignores a vast body of scripture.
We can have confidence in our salvation, if as our Saviour warned, "Those who endure to the end shall be saved."
maranatha >
He ignores it because this is what keeps people in church, the easy way. Just claim you are a believer and youre saved, dont worry about all that having to pick up your cross, deny yourself, lose your life to save it, suffer for the name of Christ nonsense...But rather come to my church and Ill teach you a much easier way to be saved. The wide easy path is the one to be on, why go on the narrow path that is very hard to find in the first place and even harder to to stay on?
If any pastor taught the "hard teachings of Jesus" as they call them, they would have no one in their church
@@TimKollat ua-cam.com/video/DlSq446Av0Y/v-deo.html
God bless bro. >
Yy
Rather, it is your 'understanding' of that 'vast body of scripture', that is over simplified. The passages you quote are referring to people who associate with Christians in their congregations, but who are simply false sheep.
WHAT IS SPECIAL ABOUT BEING A HINDU?
By Francois Gautier.
*Diversity in Divinity and Unity in Spirituality.*
1) Believe in God ! - Aastik - Accepted
2) Don't believe in God ! - You're accepted as Nastik
3) You want to worship idols - please go ahead. You are a murti pujak.
4) You dont want to worship idols - no problem. You can focus on Nirguna Brahman.
5) You want to criticise something in our religion. Come forward. We are logical. Nyaya, Tarka etc. are core Hindu schools.
6) You want to accept beliefs as it is. Most welcome. Please go ahead with it.
7) You want to start your journey by reading Bhagvad Gita - Sure !
8) You want to start your journey by reading Upanishads - Go ahead.
9) You want to start your journey by reading Purana - Be my guest.
10) You just don't like reading Puranas or other books. No problem my dear. Go by Bhakti tradition . ( bhakti- devotion)
11) You don't like idea of Bhakti ! No problem. Do your Karma. Be a karmayogi.
12) You want to enjoy life. Very good. No problem at all. This is Charvaka Philosophy.
13) You want to abstain from all the enjoyment of life & find God - jai ho ! Be a Sadhu, an ascetic !
14) You don't like the concept of God. You believe in Nature only - Welcome. (Trees are our friends and Prakriti or nature is worthy of worship).
15) You believe in one God or Supreme Energy. Superb! Follow Advaita philosophy
16) You want a Guru. Go ahead. Receive gyaan.
17) You don't want a Guru.. Help yourself ! Meditate, Study !
18) You believe in Female energy ! Shakti is worshipped.
19) You believe that every human being is equal. Yeah! You're awesome, come on let's celebrate Hinduism!
"Vasudhaiva kutumbakam" (the world is a family)
20) You don't have time to celebrate the festival.
Don't worry. One more festival is coming! There are multiple festivals every single day of the year.
21) You are a working person. Don't have time for religion. Its okay. You will still be a Hindu.
22) You like to go to temples. Devotion is loved.
23) You don't like to go to temples - no problem. You are still a Hindu!
24) You know that Hinduism is a way of life, with considerable freedom.
25) You believe that everything has God in it. So you worship your mother, father, guru, tree, River, Prani-matra, Earth, Universe!
26) And If you don't believe that everything has GOD in it - No problems. Respect your viewpoint.
27) "Sarve jana sukhino bhavantu " (May you all live happily)
You represent this! You're free to choose, my dear Hindu!
This is exactly the essence of Hinduism, all inclusive .. That is why it has withstood the test of time inspite of repeated onslaught both from within and outside, and assimilated every good aspects from everything That is why it is eternal !!!
There is a saying in Rigveda , the first book ever known to mankind which depicts the Hinduism philosophy in a Nutshell -" Ano bhadrah Krathavo Yanthu Vishwathah"- Let the knowledge come to us from every directions
How do I know if I’m saved or just my mind playing tricks? Why do I always feel miserable and- yet- I can’t escape Jesus? Even when I’m not in sin I still feel miserable as If I’m already living in sin. This world is becoming more of a fairy tale, to me.
Anyone else feel this way?
I feel that way most of the time and can only get more and more joy by continuing in the word and listening.
@@lelandcline6809 sigh…yeah, you’re right. Not as easy as it once was for me. For whatever reason, I’m struggling more in my faith than before. A complete 180 flip in my life. I don’t understand any of this and- yet- I still try to seek Christ. I just hope I’m a born again believer and saved. I- constantly- ask forgiveness for my sins and afflictions of my past.
Also try to listen to Dr. R.C.Sproul. a close friend of john macarthur. I heard Dr. Sproul teach on this subject once and was reminded not to ask forgiveness of the exact same sin twice. Because he is faithful and just to forgive us...and never remembers our specific sin. Then in an area of sin like covetousness work with hope and the Spirit of God to repent of repeating and thus walk better Nd grow stronger. God bless you and see you in heven.
Yes, sometimes. To answer your question, though, about whether you're saved; do you believe in Jesus, that he lived, was crucified and died, was resurrected and paid the price for your sins? If so, you're saved. BUT, you can turn away from it regardless of what this video says. Scripture is full of reasons and warnings. Follow scripture. Let the Holy Spirit guide you. Don't take my word for it or anyone else's.
ua-cam.com/video/hej1cyIVFUw/v-deo.html this might help you grasps more of God's promise of salvation, that pastor John Macarthur just implies in this sermon. Our salvation is not based on our performance otherwise the Son of God wouldn't need to die on the cross. Blessings! 🙏😊
Salvation is a miracle.
It takes a miracle to have YOUR gu:lt transfered to someone else who then also needs to d:e and resurrect as a new creation in order for you to be gu:ltless.
If Peter got out of the boat and walked on water, BY FAITH, and afterwards began to sink because of a lack of faith -- then you can lose your salvation too.
Beautiful! Thank you!
Here’s the thing. You know you are saved by the repentance of sin. The complete 180 from one way of looking at sin to the other. Let’s say I was just saved. As I grow and learn more about the word I become refined in the work god has begun in me. Phill 1:6 being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus. Most people who say they are “saved” and don’t have a desire to become holy and Christ like are not truly saved. No one is perfect and it will be an every second walk with God until Christ Jesus comes back. However what most don’t get is once I’ve started on the path I will continue to be refined by God, not that once I’m saved I will be perfect without conviction and repentance. So many try to condemn others by their lack of knowledge of every single scripture of the Bible. It doesn’t matter if you can quote every scripture and hold yourself to be perfect in every way. The truth is we all were once sinners and will be tempted always. We are to hold firm in our belief in Christ Jesus until the end. NOBODY has the right to say one has “lost salvation” because you are not the one who gave it to them in the first place. We are called to love not to be the judge. Only God has that authority.
Does he refute those who say this version of the gospel is from a false apostle? Can he prove Paul is a true apostle without using the Bible? There is so much bickering going on about it, and that we can only be saved by works as Jesus taught. Good luck then, because that already didn't work for anyone before Jesus came to earth. But how does he answer these Paul haters?
5 minute Christianity: John does not have a vast knowledge of the Bible. He is indoctrinated by the Calvinist doctrines and will not think for himself on biblical issues. Most of the doctrines I had heard John teach are in error according to scripture and reason.
Pasto John remember demas, he was a preacher like you, Was demas predestinate?
Are we who are "saved" glorified equally 🤔
'We are all equal; some are more equal than others'!
Each one receives his rewards according to his deeds.
When we repent and surrender our lives we are justified,and sanctified. Sanctification continues unti you die or Jesus comes then you will be glorified,free from your sinful "skinsuit"
What about JUDAS? You know, the one who betrayed Jesus for thirty pieces of silver🪙🪙🪙❓❓❓If there is no redemption for that one, what’s to say any one of us cannot fall away from the faith❓❓❓ We have to work out our own salvation with fear and trembling❗️❗️❗️
Judas was never interrested in Jesus, he saw that people were giving donation and all their possessions to Jesus and the deciples and wanted it for himself. He was selfish in the beginning and stayed selfish because he did not want to be saved
My Bible totally disagrees! Was Paul not chosen by Jesus himself, and made the apostle to the gentiles? Yet Paul himself told us in 1 Cor 9:27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway. Castaway means- unapproved, i.e. rejected; by implication, worthless (literally or morally):--castaway, rejected, reprobate. Let God be true, and every man a liar!
Paul's keeping his body in subjection, is just part and parcel of his being chosen by God. It's simply the outworking of the Holy Spirit in his life, and not something of his own will that is somehow juxtaposed with his being chosen. Ok? So it's a SUBSET of his being chosen: it is CONTAINED within his being chosen: it is INTERNAL to his being chosen: it is PART AND PARCEL of his being chosen: it is simply righteousness resulting from the indwelling Holy Spirit.
@@lawrence1318 I find it hard to believe your being serious here? You think we have no freewill and are transformed into holy obedient robots once we come to Christ? Look at the scripture and let scripture interpret scripture. 1 Cor. 9:27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: ( Greek meaning= make one’s self into a slave) lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway. (The word castaway means in the Greek= unapproved, i.e. rejected; by implication, worthless (literally or morally):--castaway, rejected, reprobate.) Paul was talking about walking in the Spirit, and not in the desires of his flesh. And that he must keep his body in subjection ( make himself a slave to the will of the Spirit of God) and not of his fleshly desires. Look at Galatians 5, Paul speaking to the church warns the church about what will happen if they walk in the works of the flesh, and not in the Spirit! He lists a short list of each for an example of the right way, and the wrong way. Stating that if we walk in the works of the flesh, we will not enter Gods Kingdom! Why would he do this if we did not have freewill to choose everyday to be led by the Spirit of God, or choose to walk in our fleshly desires? And why would Jesus tell us we have to carry our cross daily? Why would Paul say, I die daily? Why because he knows that the flesh and the Spirit is contrary to one another, and because we still are in a flesh and blood body, we have a daily battle to overcome the will of the flesh, and submit to the will of God! All born again Christians are being sanctified daily by Gods Spirit, and daily must choose to surrender our will, (the will of the flesh) over to the will of Gods Spirit! God did not, or ever will take our freewill away from us, so we must choose to crucify our flesh daily, and choose to surrender our will, to the will of God!
@@HumbleHeartMinistry You don't understand the hierarchical nature of scripture, but as with most novices, you juxtapose various contradictory elements instead of layering them at different levels on the pragmatic axis.
The passages which urge us to walk according to our calling, are only effective if the Holy Spirit actually takes them up on our behalf: there's no magic in the scripture per se, and no way to follow what scripture says: the Spirit has to do it on our behalf.
So scripture is actually written by God, to God, more specifically, it is the Father's instructions for the Son, for only the Son can do what the Father desires. This is what grace is all about and why we are told: "ye are dead and your life is hid with Christ in God".
So scriptures which tell us to walk a certain way, are not implying that if we don't we shall lose our salvation: they are only hypothetical in such regard in that the Spirit will fulfil them on behalf of the elect. The Bride has no strength of her own self, but only the Bridegroom.
So your approach is unlearned and naive. Baby theology. You are still on milk.
@@lawrence1318 Sir you have no idea how long I have known the Lord, or ohow long I have studied Gods word, or what God has taught me during those years! The scripture is written from God, for us, even as God clearly tells us this in 2Tim.3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. It is total error to think we are not supposed to take heed of the instruction God gave us! Yes The Spirit of God does the work in us, but only if we submit ourselves to his will, and not lean on our own understanding! Your judgement of me means nothing to me! God is my judge, not man! And I know who has taught me His Truth!
@@HumbleHeartMinistry That what I have pointed out to you, hasn't registered, confirms you are still on milk. At best you're at an intermediate level and are incapable of digesting what I've written to you. At present you know better.
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Revelation 3:5-6
“He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments, and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life; but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels. “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.” ’
Jesus himself implies it is possible for a believer to fall away and if he does . His name will be blotted out from the book of life
Believing you can lose your salvation is the same as working your way to heaven. Many people that are advocates of it, can never give me a straight answer on what constitutes being lost again. They think if you kill somebody, live in sin, etc. But they can never give you a straight answer where to draw the line as to when you lose it and have to be saved again.
But there are quite a few scriptures that do suggest you have to work your way to heaven. He who endures to the end shall be saved, to he who overcomes I will not blot his name out of the book of life, if we willfully sin after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice (does knowledge of the truth equal salivation? 🤷🏻♂️)the dog returning to its own vomit, etc.
Applying the truth ☺️ might be sign of it. Counting the costs as Christ said, willing to suffer/understanding that and accepting 💪☺️
@@care4thearth Counting the cost means realizing we don't have the resources to do it without His help. Only He can save us and only he can keep us saved!
You said it yourself; those who endure to the end. That is to say that those who don't turn away from their salvation will be saved. You can't say a prayer, be baptized, then go on to a life of fornication, witchcraft and idol worship and be saved. When do you lose your salvation? When you decide to turn to sin and away from the Holy Spirit no longer believing in His power. It's all in scripture. Read about it.
I replied to another commentary on this video. You are always saved by Jesus no matter what you believe. He died for all. BUT you can fall away, depart from your faith, reject God or prioritise something else in His place and fall from Grace. You see, God gave us freewill and did not force belief upon us unlike Satan who will force worship or face dire consequences if you choose to leave his society.
If you pursue wealth, wealth becomes your god and you can't serve 2 masters but 1. You have fallen away and therefore lost your salvation by your choice. You will certainly sin more as you chase wealth like cheat people, steal, etc. That's why there are so many false prophets like prosperity preachers, the Word of Faith movement is expanding daily worldwide, for they teach pro-self, wealth, and that everyone is made in God's image (not image of God as it should be, they like to twist scripture to tempt the unsuspecting and ignorant who don't check their bibles) so that they're pure and have the right to sin. False prophets come in so many forms to sway once-Christians from the Truth so that they will not be saved.
Think about it. The fewer raptured means more undergoing The Great Tribulation, chance to worship Antichrist when it gets enforced or coerced. The more souls hellbound, victory for Team Satan, right?
@@jerrodlopes186 or look at a bigger picture. The church is full of toxic, judgmental people that shame others constantly. And many sex offenders are in fundamentalist churches and they get covered for. But most are decent and loving human beings. I wouldn’t declare the latter unsaved.
Its a lot easier to hold on the the tail of a jet going 600MPH at 35K feet up than it is to hold on to my salvation. Thats God's job.
some lady said she was Christian and even went to Christian college now she says she is not a Christian is she still a Christian??????? saw her message on youtube
I think the parable of the sower addresses that. Many people, when they hear the gospel, like the idea of it and embrace it initially but don’t count the costs before choosing to follow Christ.
Some people are taught that only simple belief is required and they automatically obtain salvation at the moment of repeating the sinner’s prayer and that it can never be taken from them. Of course, it’s a false bill of goods.
Amen!
Amen.
What if you die in unrepentant serious sin?
Amen 🙏🙌
Future Glory - Romans 8:18-30 (ESV)
18 For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us. 19 For the creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the sons of God. 20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of him who subjected it, in hope 21 that the creation itself will be set free from bondage to corruption and obtain the freedom of the glory of the children of God. 22 For we know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until now. 23 And not only the creation, but ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies. 24 For in this hope we were saved. Now hope that is seen is not hope. For who hopes for what he sees? 25 But if we hope for what we do not see, we wait for it with patience.
26 Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. 27 And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God. 28 And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. 29 For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30 And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.
1.what of people that convert from christianity to other religions?
2. What of people that after salvation later look back and go back to their sinful ways? like a dog back to its vomit... like one that puts his hands on the plough and looks back....?
3. What of those that later sell their souls to the devil and become money ritualists sacrificing their family members for worldly gain?
So if im saved nothing i do will cause me to miss the rapture? I can get high drunk sleep around whatever i want and i dont have to repent ever again bc im always saved? I know people who live gay lives but say theyre saved so theyre going to heaven?
Yes
When Christ comes we shall be like Him, perfectly! Yes! But even in this present moment we have been predestined to be conformed to His image.
1 John 3 vs 1-10
1 See what great love the Father has lavished on us, that we should be called children of God! And that is what we are! The reason the world does not know us is that it did not know him. 2 Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when Christ appears,[a] we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is. 3 All who have this hope in him purify themselves, just as he is pure.
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he appeared so that he might take away our sins. And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him.
7 Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. The one who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous. 8 The one who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work. 9 No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God. 10 This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not God’s child, nor is anyone who does not love their brother and sister.
Remember we continue to have free will!!......and their is the unforgiveable sin against his Spirit so dont take your salvation for granted but continue in the race.
Salvation is not a FREE GIFT if the enemy can deceive you. A FREE GIFT is just that something no one can trick you out of or even if you got confused can't be taken away. A FREE GIFT has NO contingencies! It's given to keep and no one can talk you out of. Just like if I give my daughter a FREE GIFT I don't tell her , here it's a free gift BUT you can only use it on Wednesday and only if you behave yourself. Then the so- called gift has contingencies attached. Which is no longer FREE.
What happened to judas?
MacArthur is bang on with this. Anyone who says otherwise is simply not reading their Bible. If you are saved, you will remain saved, no matter what.
Wrong you can walk away. 2 Timothy 4:10 Free will.
@@altheasimpson3320 yes you are correct, we must imitate and follow our Lord Jesus Christ living a life unto Him alone and yes God's true children will walk alone, nor will they be sitting in a church with hundreds of self professing Christians
Jesus said come out and be set apart and l will show you who l AM and He has done and there l sit complete and rested which comes from within...
Shalom Shalom
@@altheasimpson3320 I can disprove human free-will...😉
You must endure until the end to be saved. If you take the mark of the beast for example, you give up your faith to follow the antichrist, you give up salvation.
Absolutely false! You can turn away anytime you like.
Its funny how a OSAS can tell you without a doubt in there heart, that they are saved by Grace and not of himself.
Wrong. Read the Entire bible. His grace gives us the ability to be saved by faith. We have a RESPONSIBILITY after we have received the grace of salvation. That responsibility is to KEEP on believing and WORK OUT our salvation in FEAR and Trembling. Read it clearly in Philippians 2:13 " work out your own salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure." So God does the work in us through the Holy Spirit, but we have a responsibility to do the next step of working out, which is a choice to obey to do. It's not forced by God. The inside job of born again is done by God, but the outside job of working out, showing, proving, our salvation is done by our will. This is what so many false teachers are ignoring.
I lost mine I disagree heaven must be earned I'm the worst sinner
You can't lose salvation and you can't earn heaven. Read the Bible. Salvation is GODs free gift it's not something you earn it's something you receive once you believe in the gospel of Jesus Christ that he died for your sins was buried and rose again on the 3rd day once you believe that you're saved forever
Pastor, what does Revelation mean when it talks about your light being turned out and shining no more? I've heard Pastors saying the jab is the Mark of the Beast and once taking it BY DECEPTION you have lost your Salvation?
No. The mark of the beast is about worship not logistics. Those who worship God are sealed by the Holy Spirit those who do not worship God are sealed with the mark of the beast. The mark being on forehead and hand are a reference to their worship being expressed through thought and action.
@@touchofgrace3217 Thank you. Could you look up Pastor Jerry Toney (The Mark of the Beast) here on YT and provide your thoughts on how he is coming to the jab actually being the Mark of the Beast. I ask not to disprove the Pastor but there are millions that need and are looking for TRUTH. God Bless.
@@computerguy1724 the first thing I noticed about Mr. Toney’s YT channel is that he has given himself the title of prophet. Only God can anoint someone as a prophet and once He anointed Jesus as the final prophet no other prophet was needed because everything God needed to tell us in His Word has been said. God’s Word is sufficient so we no longer need the office of prophet.
People who anoint themselves as a prophet are false prophets and it would be a dangerous affair to entertain anything they have to say.
Be safe Computer Guy. Keep your eyes on Christ and let the rest take care of itself.
@@touchofgrace3217 Thank you for your input and feedback.
Hebrews 10:26-31 (KJV) 26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins. 27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Exodus 32:33 KJV - And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book. Revelation 3:5 KJV - He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. Philippians 2:12
(KJV) 12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
Hebrews 6. 4-6 for it is impossible for those who where once in lightened,and have tasted the heavenly gift,and have become partakes of the Holy Spirit.5 And have tasted the powers of the age to come.6 if they fall away,* to renew them again to repentance,since they crucify again for themselves the son of God,and it him to open shame. This seems to say that it’s possible and many other scriptures
It SEEMS to say. But correct theology takes more work than that.
a clear license to do as one pleases" now that grace does abound must we go on sinning" .This doctrine of John McArthur is wrong giving a true Christian false hope and misleading.God is love, but also consuming fire.Notice how he intertwines one losing their salvation ,with election/predestination.People do your homework,read the Bible and you will see how absurb his statements are.These people love to cherry pick,to suit their theology
First I'm lost
then I'm saved
then im lost again?
Wait a minute is this like a new kind of lost? Or does it go back to the original lost?? 😂😂😂
Only Christians can lose salvation because other religion don't believe you earn salvation just by believing in the boss's son.
So, can an believer become a unbeliever? If so, will he be saved? In John 6:66 we see some disciples who walked with Jesus no more, were they still saved?
Can you be severed from Christ and fall from grace? and still be saved? Gal 5:4
Can you depart from the faith and give heed to deceitful spirits and doctrine of demons, and still be saved? 1 Timothy 4:1
If I hate my brother you are a murderer and no murder has eternal life abiding in him 1John 3:15 so will I be saved if I hate my brother?
If you do not obey God's commandments you are a LIAR and the truth is not in you, 1 John 2 :4, so will I be saved if I am a LIAR and if the truth is not in me? Rev 21:7 says that all LIARS WILL be in the lake that burns with fire and sulphur.
Can I walk in darkness and be saved? or must I walk in the light? 1 John 1:6-7
Matt 7:13 Must I walk the narrow path? or can I walk the wide path and still be saved?
Must I do the will of the Father who is in heaven? to be saved? Matt 7:21 If I don't will I be saved?
Jesus says that every one who hears his words and does them will be like a wise man and that those who hear his words and does not do them will be like a foolish man, so can I be a foolish man and be saved? If I do the words of Jesus, am I earning my salvation?
Must I be faithful unto death to receive the crown of life? or will I receive the crown of life if I don't? Rev 2💯
Can I walk after the flesh and be saved? or do I need to walk after the Spirit? Romans 8
If I conquer, my name will not be removed from the book of life, so if I do not conquer, will my name be removed from the book of life? Rev3:5
We are saved by faith, an obedient faith, not a dead faith and we become children of God by faith when we are baptized into Christ, when we put Christ on. Gal 3:26-27
So, John apparently thinks you do not have to walk in the light, you can become an unbeliever and be saved, you do not have to obey the Lord's commandments, you can fall from grace........and you will still be saved.
Amen! This "once saved always saved" preaching is from the devil, because only the devil would want humans to believe that their salvation is guaranteed, and that no matter what they do they will make it to heaven. It is foolish to believe this, and it is pure evil to preach it.
@@jamesv2471 so have u sinned after being saved?
I would like anyone to read Revelation chap 3-5 and after word comment on it
Joh 17:12 “While I was with them, I was keeping them in Your name which You have given Me; and I guarded them and not one of them perished but the son of perdition, so that the Scripture would be fulfilled.
Jesus said this....your opinion doesn't matter.
The fact that someone say they are a disciple or know a few scriptures or pray doesn't prove they are saved....Judas and the Pharisees are evidence of that ....