The NEW Marzocchi Bomber Z1 Coil Fork | FREERIDE LIVES!
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- Is freeride dead? HELL NO! The new Marzocchi Bomber Z1 now comes in Coil and is ready to smash through rocks the size of a Chevy Cobalt and flat-drop from your garage roof. The Z1 Coil shares the same platform as the Z1 Air, so you can easily convert your Z1 Air fork to Coil with their conversion kit. A coil sprung fork with a simple damper that can lockout should be an amazing fork for those aggressive bikes that pedal to the top of the hill.
In this video, Mike gives an in-depth overview of the new Z1 Coil and Jason shares his impression after riding the fork for several months.
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Would you ride a coil fork or would you rather stick with air?? 🤔
I just bought a bike with a Fox 36 Factory GRIP2, but if coil comes back strong, I will definitely consider the "upgrade" in the next year or two. 👍
My next Will either get a linkage or coil fork but with this out its too good to not look at especially in maintenance way of looking at a coil fork wich makes overall invenstments more possible for a budget rider
COIL is so much more plush. I've always rode coil.
I wanna see a grip 2 damper in on it, it would be the most burly supple ultra tunable fork of my dreams
I change my air pressure a lot to adjust how my bike feels. It is an alloy enduro bike (Patrol) and if I run it soft it rides like a couch on enduro stages, but I can firm it up for xc by just adding air.
I'd love to try a coil shock but the extra weight and loss of adjustability means it may not be for me. That new adjustable coil though..... I'm waiting to hear more about that.
Legend has it that thousands of years ago the prophets foreseen the return of a hardcore indestructible fork for the rider that just wants to smash it hard on descents and not have to think about it, and in the scriptures they named it bomber. That time is upon us and we must HUCK TO FLAT.
I am a 55yr old, 220lb rider. My first true Mountain Bike was a custom Ironhorse Sinister with a Z1 Free Ride oil & coil. Loved it. Just changed oil once a season, worked flawlessly every ride. Now I ride a 2022 Ibis Ripmo AF with the New Z1 coil. WOW, I had forgotten how good these forks were. I did have to change the spring to the Extra Firm. I do not care about the grams, the weight is worth it!
Heck yea dude coil is where it's at! Glad you're stoked on the Z1 again 😎 🤘
2020: Return of the Coil
(seriously, I've seen more videos/news about coil forks in the last 2 weeks than the last 2 years combined lol)
Yeah... we noticed that while planning keywords and titling for this video and was like "jeez ummm this is getting ridiculous" haha
@@TheLostCo I have a 2007 Vanilla R, and you know what? I always use it to replace the air fork in my 140-150mm frames throughout the years. And with the new Silkolene RSF 10 oil, my goodness, buttery smooth on the rough stuff
imagine pairing this with the grip 2 damper, pure absolute sex.
its been done!
Still loving my 2012 Rockshox Totem coil!)
I ride a rockshox domain coil, it's amazing, I know it's not the best fork, but, it´s simple, sturdy, and pretty fun to ride. I love it's simplicity.
When people think an Air Forks really good they say it feels like a coil fork. Air Forks do everything they can to feel like coil, coil just feels good.
I wanna see a grip 2 damper in on it, it would be the most burly supple ultra tunable fork of my dreams
2020..bring it all back....coils, 26 wheels..., aluminium frames......bring the fun back into MTB...stoked!
You forgot a plague
Yes I agree 26" wheel aluminum mtb,frame and coil fork yes back when mtb was more fun and enjoyable. 26" wheels all day
@@devon08059 yup, hopefully the best outcome of this whole covid thing is that we all appreciate what we got and not have to be so greedy all the time, always wanting more(just because its available) and just be content with what we've got. Its nauseating watching all the over gunned green horns riding themselves over their own heads. The only fun thing has been to be able to outride them on my 20yr old machine...but that's also kind of selfish...lol. What I really wish is everyone could be thankful for what they have and not turn it into a pissing contest all the time. To just run what you brung and be stoked to ride...
I'm old. I rode the 1st z1 bomber back in like 96. Fell in love...
Went on to the jr-t . Then the 888rc and another 888vf for the wife. And a 66rc for my dirt jumper. Last fork I bought was in 07. Thats how reliable and awesome MARZOCCHI is.
Still riding my Demo 8 with RockShox Boxxer Team 2006 which is spring dampened. Amazing forks and no doubt the return of the spring is coming 👍🏻
I am still riding my bottle rocket with a marzocchi 66rc 150mm, and it's tstill going strong. I don't upgrabe cause it's the new thing, or it's in style. I only upgrade when I have to.
Affordable - costs more than my whole steel hardtail with Z1 out of 2004, which I still ride and enjoy :)
Consider that 749USD in 2020 is the equivalent to ~555USD in 2004. Plus the manufacturing quality and materials of the new version will definitely be better.
@@basstrom88 While all that may be true, and I do understand some of us like to think inflation rate is so easily calculated, my income has not risen 35% in the same time period. My bike might have cost me 1500$ in 2004, you don't see me calculating the inflation on it, but the devaluation of my bike is also included in my approximation. My 15 years old fork is still functioning, I would not be able to measure quality and materials advantages.
If I try to read between my lines - for a price of my used bike I can only get a new fork nowadays. Therefore, I would gladly use my bike still and ride with it instead of trying to get the new Z1 and the whole bike around it.
It is absurd that this sport started to be inflated and hyped years ago, when the prices started reaching astronomical levels. Nowadays, if I want to get a hardtail specced the same "style" as mine, I would spend 3000$ easily.
People laugh at me and my two best buddies driving hardtails up to the point where red and black trails start, but we laugh at the bunch of incompetent assholes who cannot handle a bike when we overtake them downhill. Exactly these type of customers are the ones that support bike companies and price politics they are pushing, but don't need such bikes.
I owned a RC66 Bomber and Roco coil shock back in the day. It is the most plush suspension I have ever ridden, although heavy.
It’s cool that there going back towards the late 2000s be it bike geo or forks. I still ride a bomber 66rcv in 180mm with 38mm stanchions, couldn’t picture anything else burly. Seems like the new fox 38 will be a beast and the z1 coil will be right up there
Air is for tire😁
Imagine coil tires
@@erikanzenmtb3124 fuck why did you have to give me that idea I'm gonna want to try that now
I have a 2004 marathon S, coils + air + ETA, love it. Too sad to see Marzocchi is not what it used to be.
Damn the split ring style travel adjusters are a great idea. Way better than having to remove everything just to slide off the spacers. Sure its not like its that much more work with traditional spacers but its still a nice touch to make removal/installation even easier.
I like it. For being a lean 250 lbs I can just drop in a yellow spring and away I go.
Combining pros of both coil and air will be nice future for forks and shocks.
Still for everyday rider air might be a bit easier to adjust, but coil is also "set and forget". Instead of buying new coil for your specific weight, just change the pressure.
Fox acquired Marzocchi a while back, right? I can see this coil fork & shock lineups from them is the ""budget"" offerings and the shiny stuff can still be kept on the Fox image. just my 2c
I have a 04 marzocchi exr bomber coil fork that I just tore apart and serviced and i just painted and got some new parts for my Kona Caldera. I've been thinking of upgrading my fork. I think I'd go this route. Put it on and forget about it.
Yes . . . COIL!!! Love me a plushy coil. It's only 0.617294 lbs heavier than the air. That's not much.
Smart play by fox to release this. I know a lot of people that want a fox vanilla fork. This just opens the door for them to bring it back if the bomber takes off. Great fork! But I don't think I will go baxk ti coil. Had a coil enduro and had to really work it to get a lot out of it. When I got my sentinel with air it just felt more livelier. But to each their own.
Yeah man, my Jr. T still works as it did when it was new in 2000 on my Specialized FSR BIGHIT.
Just ordered my conversion kit! I think the Z1 needs the coil personally. The small bump compliance on the air just isn’t as good, and it will track so much better.
Might convert. Tired of airing up shocks and forks. All air pumps are inaccurate too.
I have the CR380 C2R2 Ti. Love this fork on my DH rig. For the enduro rig i run a Fox 36. Coil for the big bike with dual crowns and air for the pedal up bike.
Just had the Z1 Coil swap on my Bomber Z1 air fork yesterday. Can't wait to test it on the trails.
Can I ask you how is the difference? Was it worth it?
@@kbkb7980 I think it's worth it. the coil spring has very good response at low speed compression/rebound. And it feel so smooth. Definitely recommend it.
Still running my 2010 marzochi Bomber coil shocks!!!!! They ride like Butta!!!
Man, Jason is good in front of the cam! Cheers!
When I was a kid they were the boys! I had Dirt Jumpers
I have 2 coil forks,tried few air but its enough experiment,coil is simple and works better!
Sorry but in what ways are the new Z1 Coil affordable? They cost 988€ here in Europe.
Any chance showing us how to change the spring for a different weight ?
the thing is, i wouldnt care eather if my shock or cranks were heavy, but too much weight at the front is going to feel bad. in downhill oriented bikes its not about how much weight, but where the weight is!
That's exactly what I'm afraid of! Thinking about Mezzer or Z1 coil... :S
I bet 2022 will be the year of air forks/shocks... Cycle repeats.
Up side down ...Shivers DC ..best fork I’ve ever ridden ...sooooo supple ..
Just upgraded my 19’ yari to make it basically a 21’ lyrik ultimate. For only $250 more could of got this..... ugh!! Coil baby!!
I still use my marzochi z1 97 model i still use it until now..
3 year old video but i still want to ask. He said he went up in spring rate. How much do you weigh and what spring did you go to?
Hey guys, first off I love your chanel and am actually building an adventure van myself so really appreciated the tour of you rig a while back. Secondly, I was given an older marzocchi 888 RC3 and will be putting it on Sur Ron EMoto (which is 110lbs without me on it). I'm around 140lbs and am looking to get a stiffer spring so this fork is not so soft. My question to you is, do you have a replacement spring/upgrade kit that will work for this fork? PS...what kind of a wrench is that in your intro? Thanks
so is there no chance of getting a root beer brown factory 36 with a coil??? are the rhythm 36's and factory 36's with fit4 the same weight?? my 2015 carbon enduro 26'er is only 26/27 pds or so lol so if I go too heavy it might mess with the balance of the bike Ha the weight might give the bike more traction on the front end than the super light carbon crowned Pike's that came on it. Cheers to you guys I hope all is well through this Rona madness
Hi guys at Lost Co ......have a question for you ....will a 29” wheel fit in my 2020 Kenevo Z1 fork ....There looks to be plenty of room .....Thanks , appreciate your knowledge ...🇬🇧👍
Will this fork make me faster than double geared lightning? Or polished steel? Please choose.
Got one for my Turbo Levo. Smooth as buttah.
Can I upgrade my 2019 Fox 36 Performance fork to coil with this kit? Enjoying the content by the way guys!
No. Will only work with the Rhythm fork unfortunately. Factory, Performance, and Perf Elite have different stanchion wall thickness so the spring wouldn't fit
My 134 is going coil front and rear!!
Love coil. The ride quality and set n forget adjusting.
Oh the days when I ran marzocchi warranty dept when the original z1 released..... Seems a lifetime ago....
Dang sweet! Man we'd love to hear stories...
@@TheLostCo I just hope they bring back the progressively wound springs like they used to make, we only had limited stock, by Christ they worked well, we used them on the team bikes
I don't care that much about weight. I enjoy riding a bike that feels nice, and 200g is nowt. I hope that there's a 120mm 29er version soon.
I'm sorry, but Marzocchi's popularity peaked in 1997, when lowers were still assembled from three distinct pieces, the stanchions were bolted to the crown, and you could run a disc brake on each side of the wheel if you were adventurous enough.
They definitely dominated the early-mid 2000's though. Manitou were doing terribly, Rockshox were impressing nobody, and Fox was twice the price and too complicated.
Would this new Z1 bomber be able to replace the new Sur Ron RST Killah fork?
AIR goes ALL the way!!! New or Old, AIR it is!!!
Nice fork! Any review ride with that Troy or just that Troy with any fork?
Is this a hint fox will have a coil fork soon?
You gotta believe it... if they come out with their own coil conversion for the Fox 36 Factory, I will definitely consider the upgrade.👍
@@steelwing7532 yes hopefully in 180mm
Will that upgrade kit also work with a Fox 36?
The air just went out of the room. :) Yes we count no grams. And, yes, want!
hello, I have a bomber z1 air 27.5 fork and it is 150 mm travel according to the bike documents. But I conducted an experiment and measured its travel with a ruler, it turned out to be 140 mm. Should I be worried ?
This is not abnormal, but if you call and talk to our service department or shoot us an email, we can help you out further.
(360) 308-8827 // sales@thelostco.com
What about the Z1 Coil vs a Fox 36 Fit4 or Grip 2 with Push coil conversion?
This fork is what I hoped the Zochi 350R would be a few years ago, that fork was sadly awful. Very excited for this fork.
Is there big difference bet z1 coil vs air?
Hell yeah baby coil is back
The big question is ; coil or air?
Sweeet! Any idea of availability outside the USA? The distributor here in aus can be a be slow
i think having the option is rad
Can the air versions be adjusted the same for travel lengths?
Not really my cup of tea, but great to see that there is an option for people who really don’t care about all those adjustments and just want a simple, durable setup
Would this be better for my 50lb ebike that a, say a fox 32. Thanks
Since the Z1 has a beefier chassis and burlier stanchions, it would be better indeed. It will be able to support you and the bike better. It is even worth considering 38mm stanchion forks such as the RockShox ZEB or Domain, or Fox 38.
This suspension is now DVO SUSPENSION by the same guys at marzo
Burly drinking game = drunk... and bought a Z1 coil. Win-Win!
How does the Z1 air compare to the Z2 air?
About bloody time...
The legacy is back!!!!
I wish they had a protector for the outside of the spring so you can go back to air without it scratching the inside surfaces up.
Guy with the beanie is DRUNK!!!
put this on my bike to test it and it will stay on it now
What does the Preload adjustment do on the coil?
Preload on a coil spring will make the spring feel more stiff ONLY on the initial compression of the spring. So basically, more preload on the spring makes it feel more stiff off the top of the stroke, and can potentially decrease your sag slightly.
-Mike
3:35 that's not how you do a sneaky peak. also the psycho grin and eye contact made it way more creepy. i'd keep an eye on that guy if i were u.
😂
Rad. Love the price point.
$749 is “affordable” for a fork?
well top of the line go for 1000 or more so i guess it is "affordable". Its sick how costly it is, it should be like half
Buy used 😀
I have a commencal meta ht that came with a Rs 35 gold and i really dont like that fork , seriously i feel like i have no forks at all . I remember back in the day having a fox 36 coil and it was the best fork i ever had . I use my bike mostly for gravity stuff but still ride single track and dj with it . The weight does bother me but im thinking fuck it , coil is the bomb .
So its a generic Fox fork ?
Test review coming soon??
I ride an MRP Ribbon coil. Love it! Never been one to tinker with or notice minute changes in LSC/HSC/LSR/HSR in air sus. Plus it's much simpler to service. Also run a MRP Hazzard coil with the progressive spring in back. Best sus setup I've ever had (especially here in Colorado)!
So basically marzocchi is budget fox
(That still isn’t cheap enough)
do you guys do demo days
and hell I'd run a coil
So it's a fox for hipsters?
coil gang coil gang
Expensive coil forks: best small bump sensitivity
Cheap coil forks: don’t even compress
What would rock the fat bike world is a Z1 coil fat bike fork.....
This thing is 25% more expensive than the zeb ultimate in Europe lol. Fox is so overpriced (btw, the 38 is over twice as expensive as the zeb ultimate)
Coil! No tokens!!!
Damn challenging man's to take 9 shots before 10AM..
Soft
can someone buy him a scissor ?
I recently re-furbed my classic Z1 Freerides, old but gold! ua-cam.com/video/4-IDdeQs2PI/v-deo.html
pls stop w the jump cut zooms
Where is open oil bath??? Real Bomber Z1 used open oil bath only!!!
180mm travel ….you won’t get passed 150 travel because of the ramp up …ruins a bloody good fork ..it’s a shame