This Just Killed the Future of Electric Cars
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We need LYTEN batteries!
Scotty, please do a video about the Mazda B3000/Ranger series. I want to know what you think about them.
There may be other parts of the cost of ownership. For example, in many states there is a road tax on EVs. In the state of Washington this tax is $150/year. Also, in WA you have to pay 1% of the price of the car as part of you annual registration fee. EVs tend to cost more than ICE cars, so it is not unusual to see EV owners paying $1000/year for tabs.
@Scotty Kilmer
None of those hidden costs for owning an “EV” vehicle surprised me!!!
What did surprise me was the other costs/issues with building the “EV” vehicles and how the materials used to build them still require the use of *FOSSIL FUELS AND BIO FUELS!!!*
Not one single component of any “EV” vehicle will escape the need for fossil fuel(petroleum based products) to complete their construction; not the batteries, the seats, the tires, the dashboard, the computer brain(ECM), the frame, or any other structure designed to help it stay on the road (steering, suspension, etc)!!!!
The predominant idea(ideology) behind building electric vehicles is/was the fantasy that they would end the reliance on fossil fuels/petroleum based products, and not one person with more than a double digit IQ(I’m betting that there are plenty of people with double digit IQ’s who aren’t snowed by that fantasy) believes that will ever happen!!!
@@tedantares2751 so sorry for these Northern states try moving to Oklahoma where property taxes are very low and the car and truck license are within reason, don't move to Texas as their property taxes are outrageous and they tare down excellent school buildings and spend millions on the new buildings and 60 million on a high school stadium in Allen, Texas???
Of course, once people buy more EVs the price of power will increase & then the government will put a road tax on power.
Some charging stations already have increased prices to $30 for a full EV charge. The more remote the station, the more they’ll cost.
We bought a low priced EV, not as bad as Scotty makes it to be. In 30,000 miles rotated tires twice, replaced cabin filter twice, and wipers once. They do suck for road trips but anything 200 miles or less it's been great. Charge at night off peak.
Thats something these DF doesn't realize with these pos cars.
@@phatgringo2.0 so you have to own two cars, that's alright I've got nine that run on gas if you include the pickups and motorcycles
@@justinsane7128 yeah pretty much Toyota hybrid the way to go
Another "hidden" EV cost is that state DMVs are starting to increase the license plate/tag fees for EVs since they realized they're not getting road tax money from gasoline purchases.
South Carolina has already been charging more when you register an EV or Hybrid car
I have a friend that bought a "TESLA" car, and when he went to register it in ohio, he was shocked at the cost!!!!!.. for me ,I think I will sit this one out, nope not interested. you should not park an "E.V." in your garage, should a fire start, it will take the house with it ,and battery fires are next to impossible to put out. fire departments are purchasing dumpsters ,and filling them with water ,and submerging the car in the dumpster.
You don't have to wait in line to get your smog done ever with electric cars
@@haywoodmorganjr1326 People didn't think of that when my state charged $35 every 2 years to $250 per year. Other states near me also increased at the same time. People thought they were getting away with something until the State caught up with them!
@@Perich29 Not every state has smog checks; and sometimes not throughout the whole state. And not all cars.... even though my petrol car needs a check, my diesel doesn't. Odd turn of events on that one.
I keep hearing electric vehicles are the future but there’s still so much uncertainty in the costs associated with them. Until things stabilize with those costs, which could be decades away, I’ll continue to drive ICE vehicles.
My job pays for a vehicle and per the mile so I’d like to pocket the savings if there was any. I just looked into an ev cause of potentially saving a “substantial” amount in powering the vehicle over gas in an ice. With the tax credits I thought about it until I looked into the cost of charging outside of home and it wasn’t worth the hassle to me for the little amount of savings that I figured that I’d get. We aren’t there yet. A hybrid seems like a pretty good option though.
The gubmint keeps pushing them on Americans which makes me hate EV's all the more.
Well if you keep getting your info about Evs from Scotty you would think that lol
The power grid cant even keep your power on if its too hot or too cold. Let alone charge your EV during those hot or cold daya
@@tacofortgens3471 i think the government would love an excuse for everyone to "shelter in place" due to an "electricity shortagec
I don't think the battery replacement cost is going to be an issue and I'll tell you why. Once battery degradation becomes a well known issue with these cars and given the high cost of these batteries I can see the resale value on these cars tanking. At that point, in most cases when a battery pack gets shot on an aging EV of maybe 5 or 10 years, most people will probably land up junking them because the cost of the battery will land up exceeding the cost of the car itself and you'd be better off getting a slightly used or new EV. And there goes your green future.
reason why i dont liek electric car is that battery degradation and lack of battery recyling. dendrites that forms from battery degradation is messes with recyalability too. if you look at sandy munroe video caled wjats insize 680 battery, there could be indicator of how much of battery can be recycled by mechnaical seperation vs what chemical process would be needed, woudl it be susntinable process? recycling company called redwood. even if they fix this problem, will they dig through trash to find enviromentally damaged (rust, mud,etc) dead car batteries currently being dumped, and recycle them? in emissions, best hting to do is a ca rof where rear seats face the rear as comcpact 4 seate rreplacing 2+2 seater cars and yaris corolla cars, and rear mid engine small combustion flat 2 cyulnder wnith no rotatiing parts to send power to wheels, instead magnets moving back and forth make electricty aand or a little supplemnetary compressed air , to power electric drive and compressed air driver, possibly with no battery or at minimal battery, using supercapacitor etc. optimal combustions per second for emissions with electric and mechnaical hybrid turbocharger, sometimes engine will run beyodn optimal effiency or emissions levels for unsuually high power demand to protect long term emissiosn and fuel use reduction effetiveness of battery for common lower power use. with limited batterys to use, hybrids are already more effceint effective at reducing emissions, vs using that battery material for fewer cars who are electric cars, becaue most emissions happens in low speed high pushing power sitatuaitons of combustion car, where emissions are most likley to chemicaly harm health of nearby people becaue its usually compact city area with many people nearby. what battery size is best for longevity? see tony hellers climate change videos, maybe somone can make use of suspicious observers videos. see aptera owners club video on saftey, unqiue materials they use, lightweight is safer to peopel outsid ethe car but can be safe for people inside car compared to hevaier caar if using right materials, and even safer due to wat type of crash is more likley to happen.. linearly more ligghter weight exponentially causes less road wear damage causing less resurces and emissions and road downtimes. in effeincy per functionality, rear seats facing rear in sompact 4 seater woudl make more sense. solarpanel effeincy is only arouund 20 percent and can become lot better if u want ower emissons(whch only helpful for heath of pepe wh send mhme near heavy traffic roads), then using mited batteyr supply for hbrids is lower emson than using the suppply for fewer cars whch are eletric car.
I've had my EV for 4 years now, covered 77, 000 km with no battery degradation whatsoever. My typical charging regime is 20% to 80%, once a week which gives me 340 km, enough for running around locally which is what most people do. Before a long journey I charge to 100% which gives me comfortably 450 km in summer and 350 km in winter, more driving than I can do before I need a break. The battery will last at least 10 to 15 years before it's capacity falls to
@@davidparker7920 what battery size is best for lonvgevity? more parralells meis less degradation but more battery is expeetaly less effceint in eal world saenaro because lot f eight per energy stored, so more energyfow worsens degaation. many teslas have degradation in used market to the pont where noone wants to buy, while prus batteies self regulate as you say ... probably becaue those people charge too much and eave it t empty and driv fast because its rear wheel drive , lot of torque, and not ptmized for effiency in general
@@davidparker7920 so you saying to never charge them to full 100 too often??
@@ALCRAN2010 If you are going off on 200 mile plus journeys every day then you will need to charge to 100%...but how many people need that? Very few. There are some Uber drivers using EV who fully charge overnight most nights and are piling huge mileages on their cars without suffering any loss of range. Eventually range will be lost of course but for the average driver an EV battery will last longer than the car itself. With my Kia e-NIro the handbook says to charge up to 100% about every 6 weeks or so even if you don't need to. This gives the BMS (battery management system) a chance to look at all the cells to see if they reach their maximum voltage. There are 294 cells in the 67.5 kWh pack and when the battery says it is at 100% the BMS maintains a buffer on the cell voltage, this is a false 'ceiling' that protects the cells from their real maximum voltage, thus maximising the life of the pack. I would expect to see some loss of range after 200,000 miles but that's 16 years of driving for me so at my age I'm not too worried.
Whatever the case, I'm not funding China's lithium project to that degree.
China is moving to sodium as well. From sea water.
wow spooky “CHINA”’s lithium project.
They don't need it
We have a lithium mine right here in USA. Lithium trade with China is non existent.
Australia is the largest supplier of lithium. Australia's Neo-Liberal government approved the sale of lithium deposits to China. Neo-liberal governments and Multinational companies in their greed have handed over technology and manufacturing to China, and this has resulted in the decline of living standards in western democracies. I don't blame China for taking gifts from the west with open arms. 我爱中国
I remember my first cell phone. Range was limited, calls dropped as often as not, roaming charges were expensive. No wonder no one has a cell phone today. Same goes for electric cars.
Real change happens on average in 15 years when it comes to consumer choice any ‘they’ dictate. Just ask historian Tony Seba what’s gone down since 1900 and the horse and buggy…. Wheew… blows the mind or at least makes one’s head spin, these changes
I do remember those old phones.
First on the marked one was huge and heavy because of their battery and way to expensive to buy and use. They even came with a shoulder strap to make them portable.
Next revolution when it comes to EV cars would be a different battery technology (Probably Sodium/salt batteries) so the batteries will become much cheaper.
One company in China claims to have started to make those batteries already and that they are safe.
As of today it may be just the opposite every body has a cell phone but not everybody do have a car.
Morons might conflate the cost of toilet paper and private jets too.
The battery only lasted 20 minutes but that wasn't an issue because you couldn't hold the brick weight phone for that long...
What the fawk 43 cents per K hour. Fawk that's almost the price of gas. I am a firm believer is the GREeN ScAM
I wouldn't buy an EV even if I could afford one.
It's starts at $25,000 for the bolt and leaf
I just don't see how EV will be good for everyone, when is the last time a government had the best interest on people and want to make life easier and nicer for us, plus the taxes and electric bills that will come with it.
@@Perich29 crappy compared to a Corolla.
@@julian-gen
Yeah I don’t like that. We will be like slaves and won’t even be able to fix our own cars because everything will be electric. Everything relying on the grid , in Texas they can’t eve handle a winter storm.
@@richpeggyfranks490 nice try, but not the same.
It’s a good thing you didn’t have a UA-cam channel when we were changing from horse and buggies to ICE cars.
LOL, after all the times Scotty has said something was going to kill Electronic Vehicles you'd think they would be dead already 🤣
Yes, both Te*** Semi and pickup are already dead (DOA) after 5 years
EV will be the major cause of chemical pollution
@@irvinewayne4086 Tesla is overpriced garbage.
Problem is people aren’t that smart. They think now, not future. EV’s and climate change is a scam. They claim the pollution we are producing is killing the planet. Explain to me why real scientists are reporting that the planet is currently 15 percent greener than 2000.
Don't forget EV trucks are a complete failure and never have gotten into the market as something practical because EV is whimsical.
The people who say the cost of batteries will go down are the same people who said to buy and hold SVB, FTX, & USD (cause inflation is “transitory”). All of which go to 0 value.
I charge my Tesla at home once a week and it cost me $6.00 per fill up in electricity. It's a level 2 charger and it takes 4 hours. (The rate is ~13 cents per KW at FloridaPower&Light rates.) The battery fill-up gets me 250 actual miles of weekly use. My max range is 330 miles.
Billy Carson talks about tesla, and those cars supposedly have unlimited power. There is no need to charge. Something about the government not allowing that type of power.
Yeah how far do you drive everyday and where do you live? Probably not somewhere really cold
Interesting. Examples I'd read before suggested 3.7 miles/kwh whereas you're suggesting 5.4 miles/kwh. 45% increase.
@@Janell136 IS THE PARANOIA GETTING TO YOU JENELL??
tired of all the queer looks?
Electricity cost for my house almost doubled over last year. Realistically I see electric costs doubling each year the next five years to pay for infrastructure required for this surge of demand. Propane is the only real alternative, but then, bureaucrats wouldn't make the windfall amounts they are making off this sham.
I got to drive a Tesla model 3.
Once.
It was fun. I'll give it that.
Really good acceleration. Picks up like a bat out of hell, compared to the camry im used to driving.
But that's it. Otherwise, my camry was better in every way. Fuel lasted drastically longer.
(A 12 mile travel in the Tesla took the 130 mile limit down to 70 miles)
Vehicle info was at the steering wheel, and NOT buried in the infotainment crap like the tesla.
I'll never own a Tesla. Most I'll ever do is rent one.
no limited slip diffrential, so who cares lol
Tesla is a fun toy, but there are issues with long exposure with the car and the fact that the company itself doesn’t have spare parts to repair the car. Another reason I’ll never get an EV.
@crassgop yep. They end up using those spare parts to build themselves a new car rather than making high quality products. They want to be a luxury car brand, but they are miles away from becoming one since the design is awful and they can’t even keep their body frames in the correct places. I wouldn’t want to have an accident with it since one I could potentially die from a fire that is more flammable then a petrol car and the fact Teslas are know for having battery fume leaks which would cause symptoms like cancer. I could get an R35 for cheaper, a Miata, CX-5, or any other car that will be fast and fun without the hassle of wasting my life’s salary and still get good mileage.
I’ll stick with my horse and buggy. Won’t be breaking down all the time on the side of the road and making all that noise and smoke! Never cars for me!
@@toshitanaka1550 those issues might show up to you, but for a lot of people it’s advantages project more than it’s disadvantages
I'd hate to take an EV on a vacation. I'd probably spend half that time looking for a charging, waiting in line, and charging my EV. And if I'm lucky, I won't get robbed, or killed, while waiting/charging. I wouldn't call that a stress-free vacation, which is why we take vacations.
Not touching an EV. They suck here in Canada. Far from green! Haha people are going to lose there minds when they go to replace the battery😂 Lining up to charge it! The electricity needed to charge all these future units will just magically appear right😂 I see a lot of paperweights to come😂 The battery technology is still to far behind, energy infrastructure is crap!
EV's are still bust, they don't save pollution but transfer to a power plant which loses energy in the wires. They are limited in very cold weather. Until Tesla can produce over unity motors or use Diamond Nuclear batteries, they can't take over the market. There is no where near enough generating clean power in the world to support an all electric vehicle market.
Ontario and Quebec have excessive electricity. And ev does lost well into 30% range in winter. But a 400km range ev is actually very manable to 99% of daily application
@@林振华-t4v Okay, what happens when everyone is driving one? Will all that excessive electricity be there? I wonder how expensive electricity will get.
Do you have any sources on people replacing batteries on anything other than a gen 1 Nissan leaf?
I've tried so hard to find examples, and I haven't been able to.
At least in Ontario we have so much power we actually pay New York to take it off our hands.
I can't speak for the rest of the country, but EVs are practical in Ontario now!
Additionally, when we talk about grid energy, don't forget that your gas car uses a lot of it.
Gas doesn't come out of the ground fully refined, it requires grid energy to refine.
And we don't have the electrical infrastructure to support the growing number of electric cars. Consider that just last year, in 2022, we were having a heatwave that caused our electric grid to be at the verge of completely failing. They had to do rolling brown outs and rolling black outs in order to prevent a complete collapse of the power grid - in California. The state asked Californians NOT TO CHARGE their electric vehicles....
Yeah, EVs are NOT THE FUTURE.
evs will be one of the biggest disasters in human history
No gas cars are..
@@masonjones9829 Access to affordable energy has enabled the world we know and live in. Without oil, that would have been impossible and even your sacred EVs rely more on the petroleum industry than you'll ever be willing to admit.
This will not age well.😊
Wheew! Scotty, take a breath man. I charge my EV nightly and awake to a full ‘tank’ each morning. Plugging in : 15 seconds. Unplugging: 15 seconds. I don’t fuel it like a gasoline car any more. I’ve changed my habits that 0:47 When I used to buy a regular car, nobody advised me about the cost of replacing its engine or transmission nor the ever-rising cost of gasoline and oil and transmission fluid and coolant rip offs. I think I’ve made my point here.
You forgot to mention EV cable theft by the copper "recyclers". It's becoming a larger problem as the network expands.
Its happening in my area a lot. Stolen charging cables overnight
That could get expensive, if you become a steady customer for a thief.
What about catalytic converter theft is just as bad! Just shows how many scum bags we have in this country!
@@Jim19826301 Do you know people just weld straight pipe to their exhaust to prevent catalytic converter theft nowadays? You can't prevent cable theft but you can prevent cat theft outside of the car inspection season. It's that simple.
That is an easy fix! One strengthen laws for one caught stealing EV cables or damaging a charging station. Also strengthen laws about people deliberately parking their ICE vehicle at a charger to impede people from charging.
Two place colored strands within the copper wire to denote it came from a charging station. Anyone shows up at a recycling place with stripped copper from one the recycler would know just looking at it not to take it from just anyone.
Just wait till you start sticking your card in an electric meter when all of the freebies are gone 🎉
Already done. Sodium batteries are entering production this year. 2 companies make it: Australian and Chinese (CATL). Also graphene batteries are ready, the manufacturing plant is delayed because of supplies. Located in Canada. Also the new Nickel batteries are ready, made by Tesla… In Canada.
Eager to see that mentioned in EV cars' marketing. "New, safer, cheaper, much easier on the environment..."
I prefer the hand gestures over the new graphics
You forgot to include the new information that Just Killed the Future of Electric Cars.
You didn't watch the video
@@roshi4401 I watched the whole thing looking for the breaking news. Can you tell me this new discovery?
@@davidfrisken1617 He brings up a lot of points that will stagger electric car popularity in the future.
But here's 3 good points, not in the video:
• JCB just revealed their almost complete Hydrogen combustion engine, which is MUCH cleaner than building electric cars.
• Electric cars just move the emissions around, they aren't actually that ecofriendly. It's not that big in the news, but the veil is down.
• Last and not least, batteries and charging are such vastly inferior systems, and require waaaay too much infrastructure to work well.
@@roshi4401 No he didn't. He brought up things that have been discussed for years.
@@davidfrisken1617 Must feel nice to ignore most of comments to be right 😅
Recently bought a Mustang, not switching back to ICE ever again! Thanks!
Good for you.
If I'm right, Scotty missed some critical points. Such as, How long does it take to charge
a battery at a level 2 station? Of course there are variables, but if it takes hours how will
this work on a long trip? Also, Isn't it true that repeated use of a fast charger will shorten
a battery's lifespan? I know this is true for lithium batteries on my tools...I've been hearing
that one often must wait for an available spot at a charging station....There are other
considerations as well. Frequent home use of a large draw charger can be hard on a
residential home electric service. Try to imagine turning on your dryer or kitchen range
and let it run on a daily basis for 4 to 6 hours at a time. I seen breakers and wiring connections fail in homes with electric heat, which can be dangerous....
The top five crude oil producers and their percentage shares
United States14.5%
Russia13.1%
Saudi Arabia12.1%
Canada5.8%
Iraq5.3%
Will the US tree-hugging and e-hugging do anything good to its economy - I don't think so!
Also the infrastructure costs go well beyond just having a charging station.
The grid also needs to be upgraded accordingly. The charging station itself is only a miniscule fraction of the real cost. Which, Who is going to cover that?
I once stopped at a bucees on a road trip and saw a few cars parked there with people in there sitting on their phones. I wondered the same thing…how long are they going to have to sit there?
The general idea is that 90% of trips are less than the 80-20% range on the vehicle. How long it takes to charge to 80% is heavily vehicle dependent. Technology connections has some videos discussing charging and general info regarding EV's you might like.
I hadn't thought about the in home wiring, just the strain on the grid as a whole. Another point in favor of more trains and busses instead of more highways.
@@russianbear0027 Home charging won't put any more of a strain on the grid than everyone trying to cook their Thanksgiving turkey on the same day. We survived everyone adding A/C to their homes we will survive home charging.
We should electrify our rail system. All of the trains are electric vehicles...... that run on a portable diesel generator that is built into the vehicle. Electrifying our rail system provides opportunity to make the electrified rail line a supplement to our electricity grid.
To charge EVs, you need to be hooked up to the grid. The grid uses powdered coal, hydrogen, or nuclear for power. Cobalt mines are bad for the environment.
Hydrogen? Nah! That's just crazy talk! Did you mean hydroelectric? SOME places have dams, giant solar arrays, giant windmill arrays... Not so much HERE. Anyway, it's not enough, and probably never will be.
The grid currently gets more electricity from renewables than either coal or nuclear. Every year, the portion of renewables grows, making every EV cleaner as time goes by. ICE cars pollute more as they age.
the electricity used at refinery to make fuel, can make an EV drive a distance at a comparable order of magnitude to what you can with the fuel they make. Agreeably a shorter distance, but not significantly shorter.
And by the way, did you know that cobalt is used in refineries too? It helps to remove some of the undesired contaminates from the fuel.
@Thorbjørn Hellehaven There's no such thing as a green anything. To even make the fuel cells, i.e... batteries. It requires more carbon emissions than just ICE. The first car was electric, and that was before the Benz horseless carriage. Do research and realize what the bigger picture is.
@@martyscholes119 link to the facts
If not for Gooberment subsidies( YOUR taxes) EV's and (all their advertising) basically everything "Green energy" wouldn't exist .
Scotty must be the most prolific video producer on youtube.
I disagree, there are others on UA-cam that post videos more often than Scotty. For example: David Pakman.
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@@siranikobar69 yea but not many have been doing this for over 5 years
Agreed, he's also extremely consistent with his content. Who's editing these videos?? They're on point!
@@davea6314 David Pakman, bleccch
EV batteries don't need to be replaced now as they will last as long as the rest of the car. EV raw battery materials prices have been dropping leading to price cuts for Tesla's cars. Soon Sodium will be used for home and grid storage lowering all costs of grid charges. Sodium batteries will make batteries 1/4 the current cost. Currently battery recycling is also lowering battery costs. Tesla's level 3 charging network is will enable you to go just about everywhere Tesla's have been sold too.
I'd venture to say that many of the same arguments would have been made when the ice car was getting started. The major difference now for the consumer is that you get something with basically the same functionality, but you have to be willing to bear the extra inconvenience, at least for now.
I'm not bothered by the arguments of varying costs per charge by state or provider though. The same can be said for gas where the price per litre can vary from station to station
Your refrigerator has planned obsolescence, just wait till your $67,000.00 EV reaches it’s “fail date”.😮
My point about it being cheaper at night is, for how much longer? The more EVs people buy, they more people will be charging at night after work so then there will be no "off peak hours" so to speak. It'll just make electricity more expensive for everyone
Well unless people, offices and factories start being awake at night and sleeping during the day then the night time will always have more power supply than loads. Ev charging is an opportunity for energy suppliers and is a great way for them to balance their business, not to mention the grid itself
@David Parker you didn't understand what I said, people charge at night while they sleep, so the more ev people buy, the more will be charged at night, thus negating the "off hours" concept
Some people charge at night when they sleep, some during the day while they're at the office. Some wfh and can charge whenever energy is cheaper. Also, you underestimate the distance between peak hours and the night dip. A LOT of EVs can fit into it, even without any additional generation capacity.
As battery ages it loses capacity, about 10-15% after 10 years and 150k miles. Significant? Yes. Critical? Ha-ha.
I don't have to charge from solar either. Wind, hydro and nuclear work perfectly at night.
Not is it more expensive than I thought,the but I do not want to get into the inconvenience and all the mental gymnastics of finding a station while traveling.
Remember, your EV could be coal fired, natural gas fired, and if you're lucky, nuke powered. Electric toy vehicles are for the control of you, not the environment.
Does home fire insurance cost more if you park an EV in your home garage?
The Toyota Hybrid has almost no repairs Brake pads and Spark Plugs replaced at 100,000 miles ! All fluids replaced as well, outside of that only tires,Synthetic oil and filter at 5,000 miles and other filters as needed the Prius now has 178,000 miles and the main battery checks out fine although I did need to replace the accessories battery that went 7 years, the cost at the dealer was $190.00. I bet that a major service on the top European cars cost more in service than then the entire bill excluding tires on the Prius?
One advantage of Hybrid is that if the battery dies, the engine still works.
only 1700 for a green bean traction battery if needed i have a 2007 prius w 60k miles all good but a very slow car
@@TamagoHead Yup, I had the main batteries cells scanned and all of them were in perfect condition, many of these same cars reach over 300,000 miles, I don't see any use for the Battery only EV, unless you live in the city and only make short trips. For me I don't want to see the battery instrument reading say you have 30 minuets battery time left. Next is they will raise the electrical rates to whatever the price will stand?
For months they talk about this and that new battery somewhere in the near future, for now the Prius in my opinion dose not cost $30,000.00 for the current Tesla battery. Toyota came out with a 200,000 mile warranty with no years time limits , In the meantime you can drive thousands of miles with nothing but, oil and filter changes every 5,000 miles I use Castrol 0-20 Synthetic oil and Toyota's filter.
My worst enemy is tires every 65-70,000 miles other than that a good check up's every 30,000 miles is not a waste of money. Next, your tire pressures will very along with the temperature changes, in the winter your tire pressure will become lower while in the summer they will expand.
@@RobertGolden1952 My 2013 Prius is a rocket especially if the power button is activated, no joke, it seems that every generation of updates produces a more efficient car although Toyota has done away with some of the best gas engines ever created like the 2.7 liter 4 cylinder I have in my Tacoma, darn it has 206,000 mile on it and runs like new, the automatic transmission shifts like silk and the oil is near clear and gets changed every 5,000 miles along with the filter?
@@RobertGolden1952
Maybe slow if you usually drive at 120 MPH. I drive the speed limit, and my 2018 Prius typically is ahead of everybody else when a stop light turns green. Electric motors have terrific torque at starting speeds. It's never strained at all to go at any speed I want.
Our country - the UK - has a terrible habit of often pandering to some imaginary moderately-affluent middle-class working voter. EVs have been a case in point. I think the whole problem is that EVs/Prius hatred/‘Woke culture’ (so-called) etc, has been wrapped up together. Elon fans, Elon haters, it all rather complicates a simple discussion, in principle. I love EVs, they are the sensible and correct way to go - but I cannot afford one, and even if I could, my recent test-drive of a Tesla Model Y put me off.
I got cold feet, literally. The insistence of a car manufacturer to proceed dogmatically with their view, impose it on the masses no matter what, turns out not to be limited to Henry Ford’s choice of paint. Elon/Tesla are determined, there shall be but one single big slot of airflow, it’s on the tablets of silicone, this commandment! So my feet couldn’t get warm, because there’s no big water-boiler up front that needs to throw away 80% of its energy created, as heat. Even if an ICE car had ZERO heating vents inside, my feet probably would have gotten warmer. I was in the car an hour with my wife test-driving. That and the seats, were the only two gripes I had.
Look, I don’t like being forced to drill down thru 4 menu levels to alter one simple thing, but maybe I could live with it, or voice commands will fix that. Cold feet, a lack of directable hot air, and uncomfortable ‘sculpted’ seats, I cannot live with, I want to ‘want’ to drive my car. We finished the test drive, impressed with handling, space, solidity of the Model Y, and the deft ease of overtaking, it was a powerhouse. But we sank back into the excellent seats of her own car that I previously considered just ‘ok’,and sighed with relief. Her car? A £14,000 Renault Clio compact car, the mk4. Plus, We can nearly see the edge of the bonnet, but again, I can live with those niggles.
So I decided it had to be a hybrid for my retirement car. Then I need an automatic for health reasons, and so I am looking at all these hybrids with horrible CVT (Conical Vice Torture, I call it, you will know why Scotty), and thinking ‘I don’t want fragile transmission’. That brought me to ‘weberauto’ youtube channel, where he’s got an excellent breakdown of the Toyota Prius synergy drive, and it turns out to be NOT a fragile CVT at all, but a robust one, with no friction plates used in normal operation only for a safety over-torque protection aspect.
In mechanical engineering terms, Toyota’s so-called ‘e-CVT’ isn’t CVT as we know it at all. There is no ‘conical vice torture’ of a horribly complicated metal-component belt, getting squeezed to death and tortured between two metal cones at rpm that intrudes boomingly into the cabin. It’s what I view as a ‘solid-state’ piece of mechanical engineering, because gears being constantly meshed, in a bath of lubricating oil, is as safe as houses. There is high efficiench and low noise in modern gears, it’s an amazing thing to see them operate.
So I got my hybrid, a Prius mk3 or gen 3 or W30 as it’s called, and while there are things this car in particular needs, I am sure it is the best-engineered vehicle I have ever driven. Maybe my BMW motorcycle came close, but this has all-new technology whose core was designed in California for GM originally it turns out. They sold the patent to Toyota, which must be a landmark mistake seeing how successfully Toyota has engineered it into virtually EVERY model they make!
Toyota have made the extraordinary, workable and pragmatically fought hard to get it out there. I have never bought a Toyota before. If I had the money, I’d buy a new AWD hybrid of any of their cars, probably the Prius Prime or Camry. But anything they make with this technology, and regular maintenance (engine oil every 5k miles or 6.5k miles or 10 months, transmission fluid every 35k miles or 3 years would be my own schedule), and there is nothing to compete, imho.
I think this video is one of the most important on the topic, although I am pro-EV. The issue is, that gas/petrol car drivers, have been taxed for the last 12 years, while hybrid and EV owners, predominantly pretty affluent in the main, have avoided both the road tax and the gasoline tax in our country (UK). This means, it was a no-brainer to buy an EV as long as electricity was 12p per kWh. Seems like a dream now, but it was only 2 summers ago. At triple the price, the EV owners on cold days, using 40% of their stored battery energy simply for heating the car, are paying more than a diesel driver or gas/petrol driver. That is mathematical fact.
And our UK public charging, is an absolute joke - it was crushingly expensive say in 2017 when I took my family on a 600-mile round trip to Scotland in an EV, and they were ‘only’ charging 35p (40 cents?) per kWh back then. Now it’s around 70p or heading far too near one US dollar per kWh for anyone to find that appealing. At best, most EV’s get 4 miles out of a single kWh! If most cars get 35 miles to the gallon of gasoline, then at the US prices making that 40 cents for 4 miles say, we’ve already got gas/petrol costs on parity with electricity cost. Many EV proponents bang on about charging at home, and say ‘most EV owners will charge at home’. This is a self-determined situation, I mean basically, if you know public charging is a small fortune, you;re NOT gonna buy an EV ! So, not astonishingly, those unable to charge at home, are a lot less likely to buy an EV. !
Leaving it as late as they could, EV youtubers have suddenly latched on to the fact they have to talk about it! They speak as though it couldn’t be possible, but it’s been happening for a year or more. In the US, your gas prices are so relatively low, even during price-gouging, EVs really are on the back foot.
Now, it;s exactly in the nexus of all these circumstances - feet-warming (!), electricity costs through the roof, terrible charging infrastructure and 2x energy prices there, etc - that a Prius sits in my use-case. Non-plugged hybrids, are just doing what Formula One cars have done for over a decade, harvesting braking energy, recouping it to store in a battery, and shove it out to an electric motor when needed to augment power and economy.
Of course, motor racing has kept this very quiet. The fact their vehicles have been hybrid for many years, is not something oil companies sponsoring it, want broadcast, nor the auto-makers in the main either. Certainly not the top bosses, although the Bernie Ecclestone replacement might be different. So, this was a welcome vid, needed. Take care all.
Wow, like everything else that is government mandated, the price is instantly insanely high. Who didn’t see that one coming? Admit it, the technology is not ready. Even other countries like Norway that were pushing for EVs by giving huge incentives to purchase one are cutting back. What these countries are finding are EVs are not as great of an idea as we are being told. The concept of EVs in theory is great, but in practice, not so much for the average consumer.
Over 80% of new cars sold in Norway are EVs. For the average person they are perfect. Only you gas fume huffers are stuck on stupid.
I'm a wheelchair user. I can't even plug in the darn thing if a car parks next to me.
That is something I never thought about. We need to make sure the charge spaces are wide enough for access. A handicapped parking space is 12 feet will that be wide enough?
Jeffrey Dahmer walked into the Milwaukee Cadillac dealership to buy a new car. The dealer said, "It'll cost you an arm & a leg." Dahmer said, "I'll take it."
ouch!
Dahmer was a loser and not Resting In Peace.
Probably Resting In Pieces.
Electricity still has to come from somewhere. We own a home in town with no garage, so there is no safe place to install a charger. Street parking or gravel area through alley where vandalism happens. Not realistic ever.
What I would like to know is what is the charge for recycling the battery that has hazardous materials?
For the EV owner, nothing. And the value extracted from the used battery reduces the production cost of a battery made from scratch.
Evergreen Materials recycles them. You pay for shipping.
@@PETERJOHN101 the value extracted from recycling an EV battery is less than half the cost to recycle as the minerals can be recycled but their quality degrades with use.
In California the recycling is built into the $10-$15K cost of the new battery. Whether or not it will be truly “recycled” (still not super common) will be up to the person installing your new battery.
@@kamakaziozzie3038 Yeah. I remember when they were so hot on recycling aluminum cans and other items, but I don't see much of that at all now. That will be what will happen to EV batteries. They will just end up in the landfills and poison everything.
EV for 90,000 miles against a traditional ICE is a lot less. Hawaii, having the highest per kWh costs is still cheaper than their ICE counterpart. Basically, it costs pet mile, which is $0.068 for EV, while the average cost per mile is $0.182 for an ICE. Savings of $10,242.69 for an EV. However, this calculation did not include, of course, the price of an EV vehicle or the cost of an ICE vehicle. This is just the fuel calculation costs. However, charging your EV at some public infrastructure is $2 per kWh here in Target, Honolulu, HI (old Costco location, Salt lake). Comes out to $146 , including the 2 hour discount. However, that's charging from 0-100% for your high voltage EV battery. What i am excited for is the aftermarket side of EV. Tuning is certainly a lot easier for an EV compared to an ICE. What I would like to see are those EVs hauling a trailer setup with a gas-powered generator and large fuel cell to make EV range longer, talk about being hybrid. 😅
Smart keeping it under 100,000 or 150,000 miles. That's the warranty on the batteries and you don't to have to match up a $20,000+ battery replacement with ice vehicle maintenance costs.
An honest comparison would at 200,000 300,000 miles. If you never keep a car beyond 90,000 miles I would understand your reasoning though.
In fairness when I crunched the numbers where I live (Seattle) ($.13/kwh) at 150,000 miles the fuel costs for the Tesla(4 miles/kwh) were about $4100 and $18,000 for the ICE I drive (30mpg). The ICE I drive cost me $2,000 (150,000 300,000 now) and the Tesla would cost how much to buy?
Total cost = purchase price + maintenance cost + fuel cost - sale price
The current PG&E (the biggest energy company in California, and the US) charges 26 cent per kWh for charging during midnight to 3PM. From 3PM to 4PM and from 9PM to midnight the cost is 46 cents per kWh, and from 4PM to 9PM the cost is 57 cents per kWh. I see few charging station around my home town, Chico.
See if your home qualifies before the NEM 3.0 law change on April 14. You can get a much cheaper rate for your power than what PG&E charges & your own EV charger. Lmk if you need any help
How long do the batteries last before they require replacement? The cost of a replacement is between five and fifteen thousand dollars. A new motor in a gas powered car costs around $8,000 for a Chrysler 3.8 ltr motor. How long do you expect your electric vehicle to last? I am running a van that is 20 years old, and I am not able to buy parts for it from Chrysler. The biggest concern, the computer.
If you ask me what I think I will do about electric vehicles, I would say I am hopeful they work out all these issues before I am forced to buy one. I am sticking with internal combustion engines or perhaps hybrids until I am too old to drive.
Progress happens 1 funeral at a time, Max Planck
Hybrids carry 2 drivetrains - what a waste & cost.
Why can't they make a hybrid, but just use a small gas engine to charge it all night.
Moral of the story, buy a Tesla. Like it or not, ICE is dying and legacy EV cars are hodgepodge of poor engineering and terrible management.
You get in a wreck with an EV that has a $15k battery which gets damaged!
@@DennisMerwood-xk8wp nothing to get ready for, EV's will never make it, they are a failed fad!
I bought my EV for $9.5K + tax
@@MInd724070 And SOOOO!? They aren't and never will be worth it! Scotty has pointed out so many reasons why!
@@smadas4192 I didn't hear a single good reason.
@@MInd724070 how bout they aren't sustainable!
New technology thrown to get her for purchase! They don't perform anywhere near ice vehicles! No infrastructure! Cost a lot of money to put charger in your house! Not guaranteed there's a charger where your going! Very expensive when they break down or you have to replace a battery! Would never buy personally because of reasons pointed out by Scotty and then some! And you say no good reason presented!? Scotty is a mechanic 53 of the 67 yrs on the planet, I think he knows what he speaks!
The amount of raw materials needed for this transition is going to leave the planet looking like an open pit strip mine. We are completely screwed.
I find the videos like this that he does surprisingly neutral about the subject. I mean I know he doesn't like EV's (at least I think he doesn't), but when I listened to this video, he wasn't railing against them, he was just bringing up things to consider when thinking about buying one.
@@fakumadda1632 Do people ever think about energy? how many kilowatts of energy are in a litre of fuel? One litre of petrol is approximately 8.9 kilowatts. If your vehicle uses 10 litres of fuel for every 100 kilometres you are using 89 kilowatts for every 100 kilometres. A Tesla model 3 uses 14.1 kilowatts per 100 kilometres. The problem with ICE cars is a large proportion of their energy is wasted on heat and noise. Besides Co2 not many people are talking about radiant heat from ICE vehicles. The latest IPCC report is of real concern
If you think this is neutral. You need to rethink your entire life.
This is as biased as biased can get lol.
@@NaJk93 I know he doesn't like electric vehicles, but everything he says about the problems they face was true. There are problems with the charging networks; it costs a lot to replace the batteries. That being said, at least the way I heard his video, he's not saying not to buy one, just be aware of these shortcomings. I might still buy an electric car, but he brought up things I hadn't thought about.
@@NaJk93 I agree with you 100%
Child slave labour, environmental issues building and running footprint, loss of advantage at battery replacement time, extreme fire risk in serious accident consuming obscene quantities of water, extra weight tire wear, high purchase cost and low resale value....
Good grief Scotty, If I listened to you every day I wouldn't get out of bed in the morning.
I have been driving BEVs for 14 years now and I'm on my 5th. Just love driving them.
Most of my journeys are long ones, I did 400 miles on one day last week on a very cold wet day pulling a box trailer. I'm a farmer/Forrester so I am in remote areas mainly.
Get with the program Scotty, you can't stop progress!
Scotty spreads FUD on almost every video he creates....
Yep!
5 BEV in 15 years, why 5 in 15 years ? I have the same pickup I bought in 2004.
its definitely not ANYWHERE close to progress but im glad you enjoy it hehe
@@sevencostanza3931 My first electric car was made in 2004 and I still have a 1928 Model A Ford that I drive.
I have been a bigger fan of Hydrogen fuel cells as filling up as convenient as any Internal Combustions. However I have bigger concern of fuel cell network, efficiency of hydrogen production and more.
All in all I still prefer Internal combustions but filling up is far more expensive than charging an EV in our country. That's why my I.C.E. is only used for stringently long trips ie. where there is absolutely minimal traffic and intersection stops.
I like Hydrogen fuel because its getting traction from the Oil companies. We need to think about American jobs, hence I'm keeping my ICE vehicle. I talk to my mechanic and the gas station owner down my street often, it would be really sad to see my town without them and have to deal with the power company even more.
By the time they get 1/4 of the way to having all the batteries they need for this pipe dream, scarcity will drive up the costs of the metals used to make those batteries through the roof. But forget about price. The scarcity will simply make it impossible to make all the batteries they need.
Most of these EVs that supposedly have long range are already far too expensive for normal people afford. Right now, EVs are for rich people by rich people. They're not any kind of solution for the common man.
AGREED AND THE TRUTH!
It's best practice to call your insurance company before buying any new vehicle, however, my wife went from a 2010 carvan, to a 2018 Chevy Volt and her insurance went down!
lol
Thats cause they know the millage will be low, not kidding
And don't forget, the heavier weight from the battery wears the tires faster.
Any proof? That just sounds like you made it up. You know the engine of a car weighs down the car and runis the tires. That is a true fact.
@@pardon6237 The truth is out there. You just gotta let it in.
quir runis the tuires now!
fully loaded mustang ev is 1000 lbs. heavier than the 5.0 v8. don't forget the extra road repairs. asphalt =oil
@@pardon6237 It's just simple logic of course a heavier car puts more stress on the tyres. I mean what if the car weighed an extra 5 tons are you saying that wouldn't make a difference. Maybe you're going say well of course 5 tons would matter but not 300 kg / 660 lbs? If you do think that, I can't help you.
Electric vehicles have been dead in my book since I never had enough money to consider buying one, and I have to travel long country highways to get anywhere. A trip to many of my favorite local stores is usually 3 towns away from home. I'm not charging for an hour somewhere every other day, I'd rather have a Honda scooter.
EV charging should be available at every wayside rest on US's interstate highways. I'm not likely to ever own an EV....gonna stay with my "unlimited range" V8, F150.
When EVs are sold in mass and Gas Stations start closing, then your vehicle will no longer be unlimited. This of course won't happen for many years but it is inevitable.
I actually work in the mineral industry, and there is still a major shortage going on that's going to halt national EV infrastructure for many years. Mineral production won't even be back up to pre-pandemic levels for at least another 5 years, even so, it's going to take even more time than that to be able to achieve any good infrastructure that could possibly support EV's.
Lithium fires are difficult to put out.
Isn’t lithium also hard to find? How will they produce all of those batteries if everybody drives an EV
With older chemistries, sure. But from the newer choice... LFP ...that is not true.
When is the last time you saw one? Oh wait, did I hear never! Another libtard down.
Just wait until your homeowner's insurance finds out that you installed a high power charging device to charge an EV in your garage. That's a Level 2 item and they can drop your policy for the violation just like installing full-supply solar panels.
Has anybody asked what happens when temps drop to zero and below? Common knowledge is batteries don’t perform well at extreme cold temperatures. And how do these cars heat the cab??
They will warm up as you use them. Most EV's have a battery heater.
“Bricks “. Search Rivian bricks !
In use, the problem is keeping the batteries cool. For parking in really cold climates you have heating systems or garage the car, same as you do for combustion engines however zero degrees (celcius) is absolute lower limit for lithium ion batteries. The real problems for most people are the time to charge (even fast chargers), the availability of chargers, and the cost of batteries.
Check out 'Finland Tony' on UA-cam, a Brit living in the arctic circle far north of Finland. He has some fossil fuel cars and a Kia e-Niro, which is the car I've owned since 2019. Tony is outside one morning with the temperature at -40c. At that temp the diesel in the tank and the oil in the sump of fossil cars are frozen, so would need an electric heater before attempting to start. He gets into the e-Niro, surprisingly the doors opened without needing to be de-iced. He pressed the Start button and everything bursts into life. Sure, the range would be half of the normal 450 km at that temperature but at least it started without fuss and could do useful work.
@@grabir01 - which will drain the battery faster and reduce your range. It’s a loose loose situation.
What are you supposed to do while your car is charging at one of these stations?
@@Janell136 Facts. Id eat my bugers and watch Netflix on the built in screen.
Mechanics are having issues fixing these electric vehicles . It’s too much of a dice Roll to pay the cost and expect for it to not screw up on you .
Those mechanics are just too lazy to learn new stuff and just want to keep working on the old stuff. It's like when they introduced automatic transmission versus manual. History repeats itself again.
@@alexandsimba not many mechanical can fix contemporary 8-10 speed transmission anyway. They dont even know how to rebuild my 5 speed manual box.
it's just a different trade, we have loads of service shops for EV's in Norway.
Our new sales 2022 was
80% EV
8% PHEV
5% HEV (hybrid, not plug-in)
7% ICE
The other really bad thing about EVs is that they'll put all the Kilmers of the world out of business.
Its silly to even consider buying an ev. They are not ready for prime time
Only a sucker would pay alot more to get alot less.
Good Vid. How about calculating what amount of space is required to replace a typical gasoline filling station? Currently a typical filling station pump can refill a car in less than 3 minutes, so say 20 vehicles an hour. An average "fill-up" time for an electric vehicle is closer to two hours. Even if electric vehicles average half their charges "at home" we will still need 20 times as many comparably sized electric "filling" stations. This is an unimaginable amount of real estate!
And the real estate for solar panels/ wind turbines
Great point. Good for wandering around town but not ready for long trips. Just not ready for prime time.
You got both of your estimates wrong. I'm not commuting in my car, mostly using it for trips outside of the town, and it still gets more than 70% of its charge at home. For a commuter car it would be closer to 80-85% easily. Then, modern EVs take between 15 and 30 minutes to charge to 80%. There is a youtuber from Norway doing "1000km challenge" (600 miles trips in an EV). The ICE car he used covered the distance in 9:05 hours. Best EVs - 9:10. Good mainstream EVs - under 10 hours. And then we only need to charge on the highway charger in the middle of nowhere, where real estate prices are pretty much nothing.
What are your thoughts on that efuel that porsche is producing?
One issue that I see is the need to plan your route more thoroughly if you are taking an extended trip. You may have to stop more often or take a longer route because of the lack of places to plug in between here and there. I drive some routes that have no charging stations between home and my destination. They wouldn't be a problem with home charging, but someone making those drives on a partial charge could be in trouble if they aren't getting the range that they are expecting.
That is why Toyota created the Hybrid and the 2021 can get 55 miles to a gallon and my 2013 Generation can get that when I was driving in the Dallas area not that good in hilly Oklahoma ?
Related to the planning issue is most of the fun roads are not near charging stations. An afternoon of spirited driving on twisty roads will use up battery life pretty fast. You had better make sure your battery is completely charged before you get off the interstate and go blasting down some country road in the middle of nowhere, because you will be a long way from a charging station if you run out of juice.
I actually saw a Tesla in a small town a few days ago parked at a gas station. My first thought was I hope the driver isn't looking for a place to plug in because the nearest charging station is about 40 miles away, and I know that because I researched locations for my EV comments.
The Fritchle Electric Automobile
The Fritchle 100-Mile Electric Automobile debuted in 1904, the brain child of automotive engineer Oliver Parker Fritchle. In 1908, Fritchle famously demonstrated the capabilities of his vehicle by driving it some 1,800 miles from Lincoln, Nebraska, to New York City.
100-mile in 1904! Tesla is nothing 500-mile in 2024, Battery suc$$
There is no part of the agenda pushing EV’s that includes long trips, or even everyone having them. Where exactly does an EV, or any other personal conveyance other than a bicycle fit into a 15 minute city?
No mention of the Suncell, which is about to replace all other means of producing power. That is due to the cost of Suncell power being US$ 0.001per kilowatt-hour, 10 times cheaper than the next cheapest way of producing power. The Suncell is being put into pilot plants to test it in something like real world environment and use. The Suncell was presented at GEM-2023 in Boston, March 7, 2023.
Everything changes and theses days it is changing faster than the competition can keep up with.
Excellent video Scotty. Not only the cost of repair but also the volatility of an EV fire and the damage it will do not only to itself but also because if the ferocity of a burning EV fire - the poisonous fumes and potential damage to surrounding area/vehicles/buildings compared to that of an ICE car. I think EVs are a fad.
Autos do have fires but on a percentage comparison, ICE vehicles have a much higher rate. It always seems that the EV's are reported in the news.
I tend to agree that they are just a fad, “ look at me, I got an EV and you don’t“! Who the hell cares what the other guy is driving? Unless your total image is wrapped up in the latest cool gadget out there (and if so you better see an analyst pretty quickly!) then common sense will tell you that a reliable (they do exist) internal combustion engine vehicle is the way to go, and for God’s sake change the oil regularly! Give the EVs another five years or so and then see if there are any reliable and reasonably priced electric cars to consider.
Fires in fossil fuel cars are 16 times more likely than in an EV.
@@frankanderson4176 Exactly! 'Fire in a Ford F150'....would never make the news, unless it was in one of the new, few electric versions.
@@mikeholt1248 There are already EVs with a million km on the clock with the original motors. No oil changes required and only a tiny fraction of the parts in a fossil car. It's basic reliability physics that the fewer components and sub-systems you have the more reliable is your machine. Batteries? All EVs apart from the Nissan Leaf have active BMS, keeping the batteries warm or cool as required, they also have 'headroom' on the charging so that when your car says it's at 100% it isn't and when it says 0% it isn't. The max/min cell voltages are protected by the BMS. My car is now 4 years and 77,000 km old. It was sold with a 64 kWh battery but is in fact 67.5 kWh, allowing the BMS to raise the cell voltages slightly as the pack ages. EVs are getting used as Taxis now all over Europe, drivers saying that at 200,000 km and rapid charging every day they have seen only 5% drop in range and are still on the original disc brakes and pads. I expect the battery in my car to go for 10 years at least before the BMS has to raise the cell voltages to compensate for a few weak cells. Then I may see a little range loss but with 2,500 charge cycles to play with (20% to 80% regime) I have no worries as this will give me over half a million km... I've owned Toyotas which are amazing fossil fuel cars but nothing can match the reliability of an EV, there's hardly anything to go wrong and mark my words you will be seeing 20 to 30 year old EVs still going strong with a million miles on the clock and original motor, I doubt I will live that long given the age I am now.
I'm sure insurance companies see the 0-60 speeds and horsepower too. That's the case for conventional cars too as higher powered cars cost more to insure than your Corolla or Range Rover. Personal experience lol
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@@tommurphy4307 I'll take my Corolla with a stick shift, please.
That reminds me, one problem with EVs that Scotty missed -- no stick shifts.
One thing for sure with proper maintenance, you will be okay buying used combustion car, but used EV that like buying used electronic and realized it's basically is e-waste and to expensive to repair.
I just cannot imagine spending 60k-80k on an EV to have a range of 200mi, and have to have access to proprietary chargers in potentially inconvenient locations, and spend 30-45m in an unfamiliar location “refueling.” There is much lower low-hanging emissions fruit than going after people’s’ livelihoods and transportation methods
My 2019 Bolt cost less to insure than my 2018 Trax. My electric cost is 9.8 cents per kwh, which means my cost per mile is only about 3 cents. In eight years I have never used a pay public charger and doubt if I ever will. Battery is is covered till Nov/2029. My Bolt meets my needs at a price I can afford.
A lot of manufacturers have been switching to Lifepo4 batteries. They use no cobalt and do not have as bad a fire hazard issue. They are also lower cost.
The drawback is they hold less energy. Not really a big deal though for an EV used as a city vehicle or lower miles to work and home vehicle. Say under 75-100 mile round trip.
You also have to consider areas where EV's save money over ice vehicles on the maintenance side of things. That puts a lot of shady mechanics out of business and oil change companies.
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These cars will also go wrong and the mechanics will make double the money.
@@deonbrunette9767 Lol Mechanics will rarely be needed as they aren't electrical system savvy!
All the shade tree rip off artist will be out of work!
@@lisam4503 Gone the way of the buggy whip.
First priorities are a roof over everyone's head, food on the table, doctoring if they need it. Mechanics shall be able to keep their homes. People who can work will work.
The recent, few-trillion-dollar tax breaks for the rich would have provided an incredible amount of societal support. It didn't have to be a world of shortages. It could have been a garden.
@@rogergrimsby5805 The need for both vast amounts of oil products and mechanics is going away! Even with today's ICE vehicles both electrical and a computer background is more valuable than an overpriced parts changer.
There is absolutely NO way I would ever own an EV! has anyone tried to do a road trip with an ev? during the summer months, most people would want to use the air conditioning, that takes a certain amount of energy, and during the winter may need to use the heater, especially to defrost the windows, that takes a certain amount of energy. There are some things I like about Elon Musk, but EV's aren't one of them.
The Mazda MX30 with Wankel engine range extender you covered 3/17/23 makes more a lot more sense vs All battery electric. Your range is limited to where you can plug in for a charge.
If the Wankel engine genset is truly efficient and long lasting, this concept would be ideal for trucks and small RV's. They operate in areas where plug in power is rare.
The rotary engine never caught on and never will. It is still burns fuel...and we have to stop burning stuff.
@@GreenTurtle-rw1cl Electric cars emit no toxic gases as they drive along. You need to do some research on where electricity comes from. I live in France where coal makes up less than 5% of our electricity. Even in the USA coal has gone from 40% of generation to below 20% now...wind, solar and grid scale batteries are replacing coal and gas all over the world, last year 70% of all new electricity generation comes from renewables so your EV gets cleaner every year. Last year I covered all my 19,500 km of driving from the solar panels on my roof...so I am driving on sunlight and I 'fill up' at home for 85% of my driving. As for batteries, you need to look at companies like Redwood Materials in the USA and others in Europe like Northolt/Audi who are all set up to recycle EV batteries when they eventually start to decline...but this will take 10 to 15 years before this feedstock becomes available. Northolt/Audi and Redwood say they are getting 97% recycling rates on LiOn packs. Hope that clears things up for you.
where are the utilities going to get the increased baseload?
it costs more to charge at home than at public charging stations because i only go to free charging stations but its inconvenient due to wait times to charge. i really hope affordable hydrogen powered cars come out, battery powered evs suck in my experience, especially when they fail to charge.
I was a gas station in Anaheim, CA, and noticed a long line of cars waiting nearby. I asked a guy what was going on, and he explained that this station was one of the only ones with Hydrogen for filing cars. He had a Toyota, and we talked about it and the realities of owning it. Very cool tech, loved his car, and he bought it for about half of the equivalent ICE car after rebates, etc.. But he said that there were only two Hydrogen stations in the area, the other one at Toyota of Orange, and that was the problem. But he loved it, had no issues at all, but was reality bases about it. As for a trip to Las Vegas, out of luck, no filling stations on the way, or there. What to do? Turns out that Toyota has to rent a car for long trips where fueling stations aren't possible. It was really interesting.
So what happens when the oil exporting countries decide to cut production? It’s happened before and suddenly huge lines at gas stations.
Actually, this is great news, ev's are getting better and better and so are ice cars with this competition between them...both cars will get better and better with time because of the competition between them.
If synthetic fuels become a thing ice cars engines won't be limited by the DOTs engine emissions since the gas will be carbon neutral.
@@comicrandomness3289 They still pollute lungs and other organs
One point you missed. Many people who would want an electric vehicle and home charger are probably the type who would have solar panels already. How would that effect cost to charge?
I was shocked at the cost of fast charging my car. I was charged $36 by a chargepoint charger to get 150 miles of range. Way more expensive than gas would be for the 5 gallons of gas a Honda civic would use. And the prices for ev charging are drastically inconsistent from place to place.
All this EV stuff sounds great, but do we realise 100 corporations make up 70% of the pollination?
cruise ship industry does more than cars llol
Scotty forgot to mention that insurance rates are also probably going to rocket past gas powered even higher once they start factoring in these cars turning into Roman Candles while being driven or parked for seemingly no good reason. Don't park them in your garage.
Yes, I would expect homeowners insurance to skyrocket due to fire risk when charging at home.
@@williamthomas1549 from the articles I read, you don't even need to be charging. they can turn into an inferno at anytime. Assuming they are true & with the way the media is onboard with pushing ev's, I tend to believe it
EVs are 10x less likely to catch fire than ICE. If my house burns down, it'll be one of my ICE vehicles, not my Tesla.
@@OtisFlint whatever you say. I'll just sit back at laugh at that absurdity
Hydrogen to run a combustion engine, not charge batteries.
Hey Scotty, how good is synthetic fuel. I read it’s 85% cleaner than fuel on the market today.
Synthetic fuel still pollute people's lungs and organs. Millions of people die every year from vehicle emissions, more then the road accident toll.
I don't know where you get commodities prices, but. Lithium is currently (May 2023) at the price it was in Jan 2021.
No matter what, I'm sticking with a V8 engine in it, and gasoline. Electric cars, give it a few months to a couple of years, you're going to have a repair Bill nightmare with an electric car.
Probably not for the majority, who make short trips and have batteries that will last 15+ years.
Ohhh nooo . That's not very nice . I have an ev & I'm really butt hurt now 😅.
@@antonk1893 Keep your Hippy car! 😆
@@davidfrisken1617 You have to stay on top of it with maintenance, and find a mechanic who can stay on top of maintaining the vehicle. But, if something breaks, and it will, are you really going to take a loan out to repair your vehicle?
@@davidfrisken1617 YOUR car go up in flames before that battery lasts 15 years! LOL
Are wireless charging stations in the future?
Drove by a Bucee's the other day and saw all the EV charging stations out in their lot. All full, and people mulling around waiting for their vehicle to finish.
I shook my head and was thankful to be able to keep driving by with my dirty, non-green ICE. :-)
Buc-ee's is a good place to mill around while your car charges. My guess is they use slow chargers to get people to go inside.
Lol and how many people were at the fuel pumps or waiting for one to open up?
@@lisam4503 8-10 cars per hour can fill at a gas station. There’s only so much real estate.
@@Dbb27 The vast majority of EV's are home charged over night! The only time an EV really needs a charger is on a road trip.
No I have solved all those problems. I just tow a trailer with a large diesel generator on it, Charging DC directly to the EV's battery. Now I only have to stop every 150 miles for five minutes to get it above 50% &so I can keep driving & because the generator is on the trailer out the back I can't hear it running all the time. Though in town when I am stuck in traffic commuters don't seem to like the noise & fumes from it.
I’d only consider getting an EV when the batteries are less harmful to mine the materials for and safer.
Also consider the fact that these charging stations frequently go offline.
There are UA-camrs that drive around auditing charging stations that document this.
Some operators seems happy after building the stations, cashing in subsidies to build them, not actually caring about operations, while other maintain properly and have very decent uptime.
When there are 1 or 2 chargers at a location, an offline charger have huge impact, then there are 8 or 20 on a location, a few chargers offline isn't that big deal.
That's why you buy a Tesla. The chargers always work.
There’s actually a gentleman in the bronx that runs some type of extension cord from his house to the street where his EV is parked 😮
If that were a residential street, he is asking for vandalism.
@@joeschmo7957 it’s a residential street. I thought it odd cause someone can come along and vandalize the wire
@@HotRod-wv4vm I've seen that in Brooklyn
@@snowblow1984 I know in my neighborhood in Manhattan guys would plug their boom boxes or electric tools to the street light outlet
Car insurance coverages do not cover car parts, unless somebody smashed in your fender and then it's sort of limited to the cosmetic parts on the outside for the most part.