This case has absolutely given me even more respect for Judge A from Depp / Heard. She was determined to do things correctly and kept the shenanigans under tight control in her court room.
It felt like the judge really let the prosecutor control much of the courtroom, especially during the first few days of court. And defense has mostly let them get away with it too.
@@zgSH4DOW Because everyone is innocent until proven guilty and everyone deserves a defence fulfilling their duty to be a zealous advocate for their client.
@@zgSH4DOWbecause most people just watch shows with good lawyers. They don’t see the fuckery that happens until you are in the court system or see law tube which is a newer thing to most people. The amount of lawyers that do stuff that just shouldn’t happen is insane.
But they didn’t do the searching of Seth/PDQ for some 6 weeks! There would be no evidence left for the search warrant to find at that point. Plus, they were only looking for live rounds. If he had that type of live round in his shop, he would’ve already taken them home, or put them in his car or someplace for a search warrant wouldn’t go! I wish you would’ve said that!
Exactly. He also admitted that he had reloaded Starlight brass rounds as well as Starlight brass dummies in his shop. Where were they? They never asked the tech if they searched the boxes of dummies to verify that there were no live rounds in them. They also didn't search his other shop. Does he have other properties in the area that evidence might have been moved to? What about his residence?
And what would that have proved? That he sent live rounds to the set? Doesn’t change that Hannah didn’t check the rounds before loading them into a gun. Don’t get me wrong, he is shady af, but it doesn’t exonerate her, at all. Unless he threw on an invisibility cloak and stalked past Halls in the church to sneakily exchange a dummy against a live round before the gun was handed to Baldwin, Kenney is irrelevant to this case.
@@Seldarius it would show he need to be charged too! There were people like Sarah Zachary, Seth Kenny, and David halls that deserve as much punishment as Hannah, in my humble opinion
They thought bringing a GUN into the courtroom when the question is about the misuse of GUNS?!?! NONE of this was necessary, and will only screw their client. WTF are they thinking?!?! I would run the hell out of there.
I have a theory- this is the only human being alive willing to be an expert witness for the defense, but only if the defense allowed him to play with guns and talk about general Custer 😂
Went to bed before the last witness yesterday and I'm laughing my face off over breakfast now. This is ridiculous and this trial needed it. 'The larping man' as you called him seems like one of those employees you invite to an interview based on their CV but then find out it's moooostly talk (and that he likes the sound of his voice) XD
100% I’m right over here in the UK and even I’m having palpitations at watching this man handling those guns in court😱🙈🤦♀️ This is surely doing defence NOOOOOO favours at all🙈
I was on a jury in a near-fatal knife stabbing with many witnesses (but it was dark - and chaotic). It was 3 days long. It felt like ten. So intense. I cannot imagine what this poor jury is having to endure! During that last witness who brought weapons in, I think I would’ve had an anxiety attack. They are sitting so close. What “expert” does that?
It seems like a person that is so used to guns he thinks they are safe. Dulled to the danger. Thank you depedy of the court. And I seriously do not care about what kind of gun Custer used. He is in a lecture mode.
I would have had an anxiety attack, and I would have run out of there crying. I'm convinced Hannah's lawyers hate her. Bringing a gun in on a trial about gun safety failure is grotesque. They had plenty of pictures, this guy didn't even need to be there!
I honestly hate it the most when a lawyer asks a person on the stand "you would agree (with me) ....? maybe it's just because i've dealt with a major gaslighter my whole life but it gives me the ick
I’ve had reloading equipment. Molds to make new lead bullets, numerous types of gun powder, puller, primers and primer remover…I could explain this faster. Much. I’m no expert. Just because you can use 10k words to describe the process does not mean you should use all of them. Make it quick. He’s killing me.
Do not forget Seth Kenny had a month to get rid of his reloading equipment you've got the prosecutor pictures of empty shell casings he reloaded his s***, the messy desk that's part of reloading. He was also reloading shotgun shells..... Seth was yes he was.
at first, i read that as meaning the expert was 'antique'. then realized you were referring to the guns. 😂 i'm probably a terrible person for thinking this. bless his heart!!!! cringe!
@jillane5709 I actually think it didn't line up with the judge but close enough I'm sure for the judge to be pissed. Also I know it looked really bad but that was the replica so 0% actual danger. But he still lost all of his credibility.
In my county, you can’t have a weapon in a courtroom without it being 1) unloaded and verified by a deputy before entering the building and 2) with a gun lock through the barrel to ensure that rounds can’t be loaded after the initial check.
Regarding Seth Kenney: He stated that he brought ammo to the 1883 training. Thell Reed ALSO brought ammo, some of which were reloaded rounds. Seth then stated he brought all of the ammo back to his shop. He admits he has reloaded starlight brass rounds as well as starlight brass dummies in his shop. The gun powder being different in the 45 rounds they tested from his shop vs the live rounds on Rust makes perfect sense if they came from the 1883 training session. The rounds were from two different sources: Seth vs Thell's reloads, so of course they would be different. It doesn't mean the live rounds didn't come from his shop, tho.
Private Investigator and OSHA Investigators did nothing for Hannah’s case. It comes down to the armorer being the person who is supposed to catch something like this from happening. That’s why you rattle the rounds and look for the holes. She loaded the weapon with a live round. On top of that she potentially was the person who brought live rounds to set! Either way she was negligent in doing the job she was supposed to. She recognized she needed more armorer days and that there could be deadly consequences if something goes wrong. At that point she should have walked away or demanded more time. The cart rack and her Fanny pack were a mess. Her being guilty doesn’t mean others aren’t culpable as well.
@@dwguitar4793 Your ignorance is no excuse for the law? Or your ignorance of the law is no excuse? I’m not sure what you mean. Either way it’s my opinion that she is guilty of involuntary manslaughter. These are from New Mexico legal websites and the actual statute. I think she was criminally negligent based on the evidence presented. “Involuntary manslaughter is the unintentional killing of a person while committing a misdemeanor criminal offense. Involuntary manslaughter can also occur if a person is engaging in a lawful act but unintentionally kills someone by being negligent or not exercising due care.” Involuntary manslaughter consists of manslaughter committed in the commission of an unlawful act not amounting to felony, or in the commission of a lawful act [which] that might produce death in an unlawful manner or without due caution and circumspection.” “Criminal negligence is conduct that is reckless, wanton, or willful-another phrase that requires explanation. You are criminally negligent if you ignore or disregard obvious risks of harm to the life or safety of others. If your criminal negligence kills someone, you can be charged with involuntary manslaughter. You need not have anticipated killing someone. It is enough that your behavior showed sufficient disregard for the safety of others.”
I am pretty sure this is the best Emily live stream I have ever seen. I laughed until the tears were rolling and I had already seen this testimony and Runkle’s recap prior to watching with Emily. But it has been great end of the day entertainment.
I just realized when Runkle went "SIR. ...I've been watching Emily, Sir is in my head." that I totally do that too. Even my little baby dancers, I'll go "M'AM. M'AM. Tiny M'AM." 🤣
I say "small sir" so much to my youngest sibling I cant turn it off now 😂 I called my adult brother "small sir" automatically yesterday and we both stared at each other bc it was so weird
The reason the defense gun expert went into such detail regarding reloading is because in SK statement to Det Hancock, he mentioned that someone could ‘reload a dummy round as a parting gift’. He was implying Hannah may have done it. This statement was read in part by Bowles during his cross.
Weren't the live rounds found on Rust reloaded starlight brass rounds? I feel like prosecution really could've emphasized that better. I've watched the whole trial and I feel like the key details were lost in the sea of expert testimony.
The prosecutor has the type of personality that would make an excellent armorer. She is super detail oriented and is not afraid to take control. I'm sure that she doesn't have the interest or knowledge base for the job, but you can tell that if she was interested in doing it she would be hella prepared.
I will say, someone very comfortable with firearms and their safety displays very fluid motions, always checking as soon as the weapon is removed from its holster/case. This man does not have those second nature movements and the prosecutor probably knew that sometimes, you don't even need to say a word to discredit a posed "expert."
He didn’t clarify well that it was the weapon incapable of firing which is why it was such a thing. It wasn’t clear which was which as he was pulling them out.
Are we watching the same trial?? Prosecution is arrogant as fuck. This prosecutor needs poot’s disclaimer and even then, her demeanor and attitude would make it real hard for me to be unbiased against the prosecution if I were a juror
o. m. g. i don't know whether to be mortified for the defense today or delighted. this defense case was so entertainingly bad bad bad. what a train wreck! i couldn't stop watching. you made it friggin hilarious!
Same-my circle all agreed the defense lacked dedication with a 'as little effort as possible' kind of vibe. Why was Mr. Bowles so meek w/Prosecutor Carrie? Asking HER for permission is subservient and his acquiescing to her repeatedly was just weird.
My favorite moment of this trial is when Kari looked back to her team after this expert pointed his gun at the judge. Watch it in slow-motion. I’m dying….💀💀💀💀
Why would they throw the dummy rounds in the trash when those rounds are rented? I wouldn’t go rent a lawnmower or piece of equipment and just throw it away! They have to pay for those. They obviously couldn’t afford to buy their own dummy rounds because they were squeezing every penny out of the budget, it just doesn’t make sense that they threw them away.
Emily - while I too enjoy watching strong attorneys at work I think they don’t have to constantly be so patronizing and obnoxious. If I were a juror i know for me that wouldn’t help!!
For sure. I think an excellent example of a really strong lawyer without being anything like *this* obnoxious prosecutor would be Camille from the Depp trial.
@Emily D Baker QQQ regarding Sarah . throwing away the bullets wouldn't it be possible that there was a possibility of Sarah accidentally loading a live bullet since live bullets on set????
Why would the defense decide it’s a good idea to bring weapons into the courtroom in this trial specifically? With the circumstances. That was an incorrect choice. If their defense has anything to do with the gun accidentally misfiring, why would they risk a “sister” gun coming into the courtroom that could potentially misfire? The jury is probably freaking out.
I think the problem is that in this trial there is even too fixated and panicking reaction to guns. They are dangerous but at stupid to hyperventilate even about empty guns or replicas.
This 'Fire Arms Expert' is just an enthusiast. Clearly, no reputable expert wanted to touch this with a barge pole! It was nice of him to demonstrate the dangerous handling that was allowed to happen on set!
I heard, and I think I’ve said this before, that the reason why he does better on some crisis than others is because the attorney that quit last minute had been the one that was going to cross, examine that witness, and didn’t turn over any of his notes. So they had days to prepare for that while being in court all day. That makes sense to me.
Why wouldn't he turn his notes, that would be bad teamwork. I mean he may not want to be in this case but he is still coworkers with the other lawyers and part of the firm.
I'm pretty sure he had it pointed towards the back wall based on his hands and the angle he's sitting at, it just looked like it was at the judge because of the camera angle. Still a monumental f-up
@@TheNoonishunfortunately for him he had not proven that to the court yet and the entire issue with this trial is that a gun expert trusted that their gun was non functional and they were DEAD wrong. So it was insanely stupid for him to do that before proving that the gun was not a threat. Even then it’s VERY bad practice.
I have to say, just because there were no boxes the same at PDQ, doesn’t mean the box didn’t come from there. There were so many different boxes in the mess and he got them from that same supplier. It’s absolutely possible he had one of those boxes and that one box was sent to the set. The fact he can’t even find the live rounds he had!!
If Custer didn’t truly think that he pointed it at the judge, then why did he answer “if it’s a real gun, yes” when asked if basic gun safety measures includes never pointing a gun at someone? Very first question and he was already preparing to cover his butt… with an answer that an NRA gun safety instructor should not have given.
I disagree that the Seth Kenny moment on cross was a mic drop. He had already said the delayed search warrant was a big issue, he answered as well that just because evidence wasn’t found didn’t mean someone (SK) was no longer a suspect. So with that one question, saying there was no where else to go with SK, imo, has the connotation that they waited too late to search PDQ and therefore further investigation was moot but that also didn’t mean he was truly cleared of having been the source of the live ammo.
Replay crew and I’m at 1:24:37 and dying from laughing!!!! The weapon man is so proud to show his baby and then when he’s pointing the gun at the judge…really I’m still laughing so hard, that’s comedy gold omg
Also in the prosecutors messy desk with saying yes those are vice grips yeah that was a shotgun reloading vise grip kit......... Seth Kenny reloaded his s***...
I LOVE Kari and her cross examination! Cross is definitely her forte. I applauded her questions quite a bit! YIKES! The judge having to tell the defence's weapons expert to check that the gun is not loaded... not a good look! I get that he was showing the gun before he checked it but LOL, bad move! He should've watched the prosecution's weapons expert and taken notes. BAHAHAHAH! He ended up pointing it at the judge and the bailiff had to point it back down! AAAHHH I'm dying!!! ROFL!
Watched the clip of the guy pointing the gun at the judge and came here to make sure EDB didn't have a heart attack!! This might be too much for her. EDB are you okay?
@@joannefeeney5792- and that’s part of the problem. I would have a very hard time finding HG guilty if SZ was not. They were both loading guns from the same ammunition box.
It wasn't proven to be cocaine (even if was) and as she wasn't tested it shouldn't be part of the case... even if she was raving addict, I don't recall (on replay so don't know if it came up today) any witness being asked if she was ever seen taking cocaine or appearing to be under the influence. The only "evidence" is her giving a baggy to someone who threw it away...
He had my attention when he said he was a finance guy. I thought we were about to get the tea on the financing of the movie-- may be where some of the money went/why there weren't as many hands on set as there should have been-- and then he just went O-F-F. Off.
Comment re Code Red. I got a YT ad smack in the middle of it. (It as a shark and scared me, lol). But it meant the noise changed, I skipped and landed smack into flashy again. Unsure if you can stop YT putting an ad in the middle of Code Red? Ps - love your coverage 😁
Is this prosecutor also going to be at Alec's trial? Because based on her behavior I don't think she'll be able to handle the slew of objections that I assume his lawyers will be giving.
59:00 the investigation couldn't go any further south Seth Kenny because they *waited for a month* to search PDQ. Who knows how many boxes marked JS were disposed of in that time?
My problem with his statement that they put round used into random boxes means that the live round been checked multiple times loaded in to weapons unload then put in that box.
1812 Overture calls for cannon near the end. I've been to a July 4the concert at a high school stadium where the local National Guard fired off a couple of cannon
This case has absolutely given me even more respect for Judge A from Depp / Heard. She was determined to do things correctly and kept the shenanigans under tight control in her court room.
💯 I feel like this judge is just sitting it out. She seems so bored and annoyed.
It felt like the judge really let the prosecutor control much of the courtroom, especially during the first few days of court. And defense has mostly let them get away with it too.
Replay crew member here - I’m cry-laughing at the “We’re going back to the Boy Scouts and the 1812 Overture in the SHORT version?” 😂
EDB, retired lawyer here, I learn more from you than I ever did in law school. And I love how you crack me up in the middle of it all. Thanks!
Same here…Emily is hilarious
Learned like what specifically???
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂c rfcLol deferred rrred reduction 😊
Good lord, 1:33:37 what is happening ?! If I was in Hannah's shoes, I'd be applying for inadequate defense 😵
@@dwguitar4793 almost killed the judge 😭
Why are normies so obsessed with INEFFECTIVE assistance of counsel?
@@zgSH4DOW Because everyone is innocent until proven guilty and everyone deserves a defence fulfilling their duty to be a zealous advocate for their client.
@@zgSH4DOWbecause most people just watch shows with good lawyers. They don’t see the fuckery that happens until you are in the court system or see law tube which is a newer thing to most people. The amount of lawyers that do stuff that just shouldn’t happen is insane.
Idk about inadequate defense, but that judge was clearly biased.
Relay crew here! This whole afternoon session made me so anxious but the weapons “expert” made my blood pressure skyrocket!!!
I’m watching the gun demonstration like I was watching OJ with the glove 🤣😂
Emily, today's coverage was wild! Love it, love you, love the channel. Thank you for doing all the things you do! 🤩
holy crap! i'm only watching this one month later, and I was watching this before going to bed, but I definetely woke up! 1:25:02
Ha ha ha Emily saying “what in the South Carolina ….,,,” cracked me the eff up !
Omygoodness….I feel like the actor/Russian firearm specialist/ symphony extraordinaire is part of an SNL skit!!!😂
OMG!!
Can’t wait to watch Runkle, this is f’n ridiculous 🤯
You know he’s gonna burn this down!!!
Oh yes, I did and it was!
Knowing what happens, and coming to see Emily's reaction, for her to say i was scared... THEN HE POINTS IT AT THE JUDGE
I love that when people want to police your language you're just like, "nah," very directly, but likewise politely.
BOY SCOUTS!?!?!!?? 😂🤣… This witness is absolutely hysterical 😂 This is so f-ing fantastic 🤣😆
But they didn’t do the searching of Seth/PDQ for some 6 weeks! There would be no evidence left for the search warrant to find at that point. Plus, they were only looking for live rounds. If he had that type of live round in his shop, he would’ve already taken them home, or put them in his car or someplace for a search warrant wouldn’t go! I wish you would’ve said that!
If the defense doesn't mention that, I don't know why they're in court at all.
Exactly. He also admitted that he had reloaded Starlight brass rounds as well as Starlight brass dummies in his shop. Where were they? They never asked the tech if they searched the boxes of dummies to verify that there were no live rounds in them.
They also didn't search his other shop. Does he have other properties in the area that evidence might have been moved to? What about his residence?
And what would that have proved? That he sent live rounds to the set? Doesn’t change that Hannah didn’t check the rounds before loading them into a gun. Don’t get me wrong, he is shady af, but it doesn’t exonerate her, at all. Unless he threw on an invisibility cloak and stalked past Halls in the church to sneakily exchange a dummy against a live round before the gun was handed to Baldwin, Kenney is irrelevant to this case.
@@Seldarius it would show he need to be charged too! There were people like Sarah Zachary, Seth Kenny, and David halls that deserve as much punishment as Hannah, in my humble opinion
They thought bringing a GUN into the courtroom when the question is about the misuse of GUNS?!?! NONE of this was necessary, and will only screw their client. WTF are they thinking?!?! I would run the hell out of there.
Exactly! If live bullets can make it onto a movie set, anything is possible!
@@JennyLouLou I think Hannah's lawyers hate her. No other explanation for what's gone down on this trial.
@@Maazzzo seriously, they must! Absolutely nuts how incompetent they all are.
I have a theory- this is the only human being alive willing to be an expert witness for the defense, but only if the defense allowed him to play with guns and talk about general Custer 😂
@@MaazzzoI’m seeing a common theme here as I reflect back on Elaine and Amber 😂
Went to bed before the last witness yesterday and I'm laughing my face off over breakfast now. This is ridiculous and this trial needed it. 'The larping man' as you called him seems like one of those employees you invite to an interview based on their CV but then find out it's moooostly talk (and that he likes the sound of his voice) XD
100% I’m right over here in the UK and even I’m having palpitations at watching this man handling those guns in court😱🙈🤦♀️ This is surely doing defence NOOOOOO favours at all🙈
I was on a jury in a near-fatal knife stabbing with many witnesses (but it was dark - and chaotic). It was 3 days long. It felt like ten. So intense.
I cannot imagine what this poor jury is having to endure! During that last witness who brought weapons in, I think I would’ve had an anxiety attack. They are sitting so close. What “expert” does that?
Right??? No exceptions to gun safety! What’s wrong with these people!?!
It seems like a person that is so used to guns he thinks they are safe. Dulled to the danger.
Thank you depedy of the court.
And I seriously do not care about what kind of gun Custer used. He is in a lecture mode.
I would have had an anxiety attack, and I would have run out of there crying. I'm convinced Hannah's lawyers hate her. Bringing a gun in on a trial about gun safety failure is grotesque. They had plenty of pictures, this guy didn't even need to be there!
my heart skipped a beat when the baliff pointed the barrel down! what the hell???!
I honestly hate it the most when a lawyer asks a person on the stand "you would agree (with me) ....?
maybe it's just because i've dealt with a major gaslighter my whole life but it gives me the ick
I’ve had reloading equipment. Molds to make new lead bullets, numerous types of gun powder, puller, primers and primer remover…I could explain this faster. Much. I’m no expert. Just because you can use 10k words to describe the process does not mean you should use all of them. Make it quick. He’s killing me.
Well, he’ll certainly try anyway 😂.
@@Seldarius 🤣🤣🤣
Do not forget Seth Kenny had a month to get rid of his reloading equipment you've got the prosecutor pictures of empty shell casings he reloaded his s***, the messy desk that's part of reloading. He was also reloading shotgun shells..... Seth was yes he was.
He had a lot of time and the Defense didn’t hammer on that point enough. Hopefully they will in closing but I don’t know if it will help.
He also has a whole different shop in another state. The police never thought to search it?
SETH DIDNT PROVIDE LIVE ROUNDS JFC
HANAH STEP DAD DID !!!
Holy Barney Fife! That antique gun expert had the gun pointed at the judge.
at first, i read that as meaning the expert was 'antique'. then realized you were referring to the guns. 😂 i'm probably a terrible person for thinking this. bless his heart!!!! cringe!
@jillane5709 I actually think it didn't line up with the judge but close enough I'm sure for the judge to be pissed. Also I know it looked really bad but that was the replica so 0% actual danger. But he still lost all of his credibility.
In my county, you can’t have a weapon in a courtroom without it being 1) unloaded and verified by a deputy before entering the building and 2) with a gun lock through the barrel to ensure that rounds can’t be loaded after the initial check.
This instant of the trial is a classic something we will never forget - having a witness an unchecked gun at the judge
I wish I could give this 2 thumbs up. You had me totally crying with laughter. Love from 🇬🇧🤣😂🤣
Me too ❤ 😅 Emily is simply awesome. Love from Scotland xx
😂😂😂 same here!
Same 😂
Regarding Seth Kenney:
He stated that he brought ammo to the 1883 training. Thell Reed ALSO brought ammo, some of which were reloaded rounds.
Seth then stated he brought all of the ammo back to his shop. He admits he has reloaded starlight brass rounds as well as starlight brass dummies in his shop.
The gun powder being different in the 45 rounds they tested from his shop vs the live rounds on Rust makes perfect sense if they came from the 1883 training session. The rounds were from two different sources: Seth vs Thell's reloads, so of course they would be different. It doesn't mean the live rounds didn't come from his shop, tho.
I love your channel when you watch trials you have the same reactions as me.
1:29:43 Hannah’s face rn is a whole ass mood and I feel for her it’s like “this…THIS is the best we could do!?”
She is exhausting to me
The prosecution is exhausting
Her attorney is renowned in Albuquerque too
@@deenaweeks5837dude all these counselors are exhausting. The judge is too. This whole trial y’all.
Don't feel bad for her, she caused a woman to lose her life.
Private Investigator and OSHA Investigators did nothing for Hannah’s case.
It comes down to the armorer being the person who is supposed to catch something like this from happening. That’s why you rattle the rounds and look for the holes. She loaded the weapon with a live round. On top of that she potentially was the person who brought live rounds to set! Either way she was negligent in doing the job she was supposed to. She recognized she needed more armorer days and that there could be deadly consequences if something goes wrong. At that point she should have walked away or demanded more time.
The cart rack and her Fanny pack were a mess. Her being guilty doesn’t mean others aren’t culpable as well.
@@dwguitar4793 Your ignorance is no excuse for the law? Or your ignorance of the law is no excuse? I’m not sure what you mean. Either way it’s my opinion that she is guilty of involuntary manslaughter. These are from New Mexico legal websites and the actual statute. I think she was criminally negligent based on the evidence presented.
“Involuntary manslaughter is the unintentional killing of a person while committing a misdemeanor criminal offense. Involuntary manslaughter can also occur if a person is engaging in a lawful act but unintentionally kills someone by being negligent or not exercising due care.”
Involuntary manslaughter consists of manslaughter committed in the commission of an unlawful act not amounting to felony, or in the commission of a lawful act [which] that might produce death in an unlawful manner or without due caution and circumspection.”
“Criminal negligence is conduct that is reckless, wanton, or willful-another phrase that requires explanation. You are criminally negligent if you ignore or disregard obvious risks of harm to the life or safety of others. If your criminal negligence kills someone, you can be charged with involuntary manslaughter.
You need not have anticipated killing someone. It is enough that your behavior showed sufficient disregard for the safety of others.”
Great comment
I am pretty sure this is the best Emily live stream I have ever seen. I laughed until the tears were rolling and I had already seen this testimony and Runkle’s recap prior to watching with Emily. But it has been great end of the day entertainment.
It looks like he has a holster under his jacket. I can't imagine him carrying a concealed weapon. That's scary!
I just realized when Runkle went "SIR. ...I've been watching Emily, Sir is in my head." that I totally do that too. Even my little baby dancers, I'll go "M'AM. M'AM. Tiny M'AM." 🤣
I say "small sir" so much to my youngest sibling I cant turn it off now 😂 I called my adult brother "small sir" automatically yesterday and we both stared at each other bc it was so weird
The Defence larping 'firearms Xxpuurt' was a prosecution gift...
Baldwin definitely had his finger on the trigger when he was practicing the scene.
When Kuski was talking about his career and TV appearances.. I thought "this is when the trial jumped the shark"
I had a Dr's appt so I'm on the replay crew this afternoon. What in the Wild west was happening in court with this defense witness?🤦♀️🤷♀️
The reason the defense gun expert went into such detail regarding reloading is because in SK statement to Det Hancock, he mentioned that someone could ‘reload a dummy round as a parting gift’. He was implying Hannah may have done it. This statement was read in part by Bowles during his cross.
Probably more of a flippant, if distasteful, comment/joke.
Weren't the live rounds found on Rust reloaded starlight brass rounds? I feel like prosecution really could've emphasized that better. I've watched the whole trial and I feel like the key details were lost in the sea of expert testimony.
SK hinted that a disgruntled film crew member might have left a parting gift, it wasn't specific to Hannah
The pros just roasted the defense today.
Replay crew. Oh my goodness! What a mess today!
Replay Lawnerd here-Oh my gosh, you can't make this s**t up!
I watched half live then had to come back and watch the last witness on replay. That was, uh....... that sure was something.
OMG, Emily dancing when she heard closing is happening tomorrow 🤣
The prosecutor has the type of personality that would make an excellent armorer. She is super detail oriented and is not afraid to take control. I'm sure that she doesn't have the interest or knowledge base for the job, but you can tell that if she was interested in doing it she would be hella prepared.
That was just…wow…Great coverage, Emily!
Fantastically done on cross on the defense expert
1:23:07 I can’t believe the “firearms expert” pulled the gun out without demonstrating it was clear and pointed the gun at the judge.
The gun is a prop and is not able to even fire but I get what you mean
I will say, someone very comfortable with firearms and their safety displays very fluid motions, always checking as soon as the weapon is removed from its holster/case. This man does not have those second nature movements and the prosecutor probably knew that sometimes, you don't even need to say a word to discredit a posed "expert."
@@claudiao1776
That’s what Haylena thought about the gun that killed her!!
He didn’t clarify well that it was the weapon incapable of firing which is why it was such a thing. It wasn’t clear which was which as he was pulling them out.
@@TheEmilyDBaker even then, its designed to look real, demonstrate it isnt!!
I love the prosecutor. Counters the arrogance of the defense table
Are we watching the same trial?? Prosecution is arrogant as fuck. This prosecutor needs poot’s disclaimer and even then, her demeanor and attitude would make it real hard for me to be unbiased against the prosecution if I were a juror
@@hjoym0105Maybe we aren't watching the same trial. I think the prosecutor is consistently awesome.
o. m. g. i don't know whether to be mortified
for the defense today or delighted. this defense case was so entertainingly bad bad bad. what a train wreck! i couldn't stop watching. you made it friggin hilarious!
Same-my circle all agreed the defense lacked dedication with a 'as little effort as possible' kind of vibe. Why was Mr. Bowles so meek w/Prosecutor Carrie? Asking HER for permission is subservient and his acquiescing to her repeatedly was just weird.
Emily - I haven't shouted this much since the super bowl 😂
Me, since Poot pointed a gun at the prosecuter
My favorite moment of this trial is when Kari looked back to her team after this expert pointed his gun at the judge. Watch it in slow-motion. I’m dying….💀💀💀💀
Oh my goodness!! The bailiff had to push it down!! 😂
Why would they throw the dummy rounds in the trash when those rounds are rented? I wouldn’t go rent a lawnmower or piece of equipment and just throw it away! They have to pay for those. They obviously couldn’t afford to buy their own dummy rounds because they were squeezing every penny out of the budget, it just doesn’t make sense that they threw them away.
Emily - while I too enjoy watching strong attorneys at work I think they don’t have to constantly be so patronizing and obnoxious. If I were a juror i know for me that wouldn’t help!!
For sure. I think an excellent example of a really strong lawyer without being anything like *this* obnoxious prosecutor would be Camille from the Depp trial.
@@kateashby3066 this is exactly who I was thinking of as well!
Agreed on all of it!
Oh I can't wait see what Runkle has to say about this
What did we do before EDB and Runkle?
Ate media lies non stop
@Emily D Baker QQQ regarding Sarah . throwing away the bullets wouldn't it be possible that there was a possibility of Sarah accidentally loading a live bullet since live bullets on set????
Why would the defense decide it’s a good idea to bring weapons into the courtroom in this trial specifically? With the circumstances. That was an incorrect choice. If their defense has anything to do with the gun accidentally misfiring, why would they risk a “sister” gun coming into the courtroom that could potentially misfire? The jury is probably freaking out.
I think this dude could testify with a photo of his weapons and it would be sufficient.
I think the problem is that in this trial there is even too fixated and panicking reaction to guns. They are dangerous but at stupid to hyperventilate even about empty guns or replicas.
This 'Fire Arms Expert' is just an enthusiast. Clearly, no reputable expert wanted to touch this with a barge pole!
It was nice of him to demonstrate the dangerous handling that was allowed to happen on set!
I am dying at the cosplay expert 😅 I laughed my entire way home. Kerry's cross was beautiful.
Thank you for your content - so enjoyable and love your expertise and reactions
@ 1:39:25 yes you just bang the bullet puller on a table. The brass is held in a collet and the bullet will be removed from the case via the inertia.
I heard, and I think I’ve said this before, that the reason why he does better on some crisis than others is because the attorney that quit last minute had been the one that was going to cross, examine that witness, and didn’t turn over any of his notes. So they had days to prepare for that while being in court all day. That makes sense to me.
He wasn't allowed to quit. He was ordered to continue but not communicate with HG.
Why wouldn't he turn his notes, that would be bad teamwork. I mean he may not want to be in this case but he is still coworkers with the other lawyers and part of the firm.
@@lindakoy5277 I see, then I guess he could have kept his notes.
Holy hell, he pointed it at the judge. How is this an expert?
I'm pretty sure he had it pointed towards the back wall based on his hands and the angle he's sitting at, it just looked like it was at the judge because of the camera angle. Still a monumental f-up
Historic reinactment expert
The one that pointed at the judge was not a functioning gun. It was a replica, a gun-shaped object.
@@moonashathe deputy would disagree
@@TheNoonishunfortunately for him he had not proven that to the court yet and the entire issue with this trial is that a gun expert trusted that their gun was non functional and they were DEAD wrong. So it was insanely stupid for him to do that before proving that the gun was not a threat. Even then it’s VERY bad practice.
I have to say, just because there were no boxes the same at PDQ, doesn’t mean the box didn’t come from there. There were so many different boxes in the mess and he got them from that same supplier. It’s absolutely possible he had one of those boxes and that one box was sent to the set. The fact he can’t even find the live rounds he had!!
If Custer didn’t truly think that he pointed it at the judge, then why did he answer “if it’s a real gun, yes” when asked if basic gun safety measures includes never pointing a gun at someone? Very first question and he was already preparing to cover his butt… with an answer that an NRA gun safety instructor should not have given.
Omg the prosecutor confronted him with it! Amazing!
Thank god I finally found someone to say everything I’m thinking out loud for me
The description of the inertia puller is correct. Mine has a nice green color.
EDB : you can’t do this
Court : continues to do this
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So odd for Sarah to throw them away. Looks super shady.
I disagree that the Seth Kenny moment on cross was a mic drop. He had already said the delayed search warrant was a big issue, he answered as well that just because evidence wasn’t found didn’t mean someone (SK) was no longer a suspect. So with that one question, saying there was no where else to go with SK, imo, has the connotation that they waited too late to search PDQ and therefore further investigation was moot but that also didn’t mean he was truly cleared of having been the source of the live ammo.
Replay crew and I’m at 1:24:37 and dying from laughing!!!! The weapon man is so proud to show his baby and then when he’s pointing the gun at the judge…really I’m still laughing so hard, that’s comedy gold omg
Also in the prosecutors messy desk with saying yes those are vice grips yeah that was a shotgun reloading vise grip kit......... Seth Kenny reloaded his s***...
OH GOD this expert is a horrific combo of Poot and Spiegel!!
Check the gun "expert" at 1:36:45. Did he say the gun could fire without his finger being on the trigger?
Emily dancing for closing arguments was the best part of this whole trial
I would have forked over all of the money to be next to Runkle to see his reaction
I LOVE Kari and her cross examination! Cross is definitely her forte. I applauded her questions quite a bit! YIKES! The judge having to tell the defence's weapons expert to check that the gun is not loaded... not a good look! I get that he was showing the gun before he checked it but LOL, bad move! He should've watched the prosecution's weapons expert and taken notes. BAHAHAHAH! He ended up pointing it at the judge and the bailiff had to point it back down! AAAHHH I'm dying!!! ROFL!
Watched the clip of the guy pointing the gun at the judge and came here to make sure EDB didn't have a heart attack!! This might be too much for her. EDB are you okay?
This has been the most bargain basement defence case from top to bottom 😭
We’re at flea market lawyering at this point 😭both the prosecutor and defense lawyer have been TERRIBLE
A pro Bono trap that hanah took the bait
@@nzingahendricks4128 at least sometimes you find a gem at a flea market 😭
The expert's description of the reloading process was actually accurate.
Honestly. I like her style.
This was EDB at her literal best!! So spicy, I was literally on the floor dying!! 😂
It's the short, short version! @1:17:00
And another aside Jensen Ackles had a live round in his gun belt who loaded that that would have been Sarah not Hannah.
I think that throwing the bullets away directly after the incident was tampering with evidence. Not cocaine possession.
Though Sarah has immunity and Hannah does not
@@joannefeeney5792- and that’s part of the problem. I would have a very hard time finding HG guilty if SZ was not. They were both loading guns from the same ammunition box.
both were. If you think having an armourer on set with a cocaine habit is not relevant, well, ok
It wasn't proven to be cocaine (even if was) and as she wasn't tested it shouldn't be part of the case... even if she was raving addict, I don't recall (on replay so don't know if it came up today) any witness being asked if she was ever seen taking cocaine or appearing to be under the influence. The only "evidence" is her giving a baggy to someone who threw it away...
@@mutleyeng If she had a habit she would have just used it not throw it away.
He had my attention when he said he was a finance guy. I thought we were about to get the tea on the financing of the movie-- may be where some of the money went/why there weren't as many hands on set as there should have been-- and then he just went O-F-F. Off.
Love it when you say "Sir Sir " ❤❤
What they should have done was investigate Seth Kenney to start with… not months after the fact.
Comment re Code Red. I got a YT ad smack in the middle of it. (It as a shark and scared me, lol). But it meant the noise changed, I skipped and landed smack into flashy again. Unsure if you can stop YT putting an ad in the middle of Code Red?
Ps - love your coverage 😁
Weapons guy: "This takes lots of skill!"
Me: 10 years old doing reloads in the garage with mom.
Okay m' dude.
Wow😮😮😮😮
@@007nadineL Point being is the guy was full of horse hockey.
Is this prosecutor also going to be at Alec's trial? Because based on her behavior I don't think she'll be able to handle the slew of objections that I assume his lawyers will be giving.
It will be the same prosecutor, and a lot of the same witnesses
Great Response, EM! Thanks!!
9 days in, and the judge decides to judge.
Replay crew here- laughing out loud wishing I had seen this live with you!
IMO, He did not point the weapon at anyone. He pointed it up in the air. He should've done safety checks prior to each weapon handling.
59:00 the investigation couldn't go any further south Seth Kenny because they *waited for a month* to search PDQ. Who knows how many boxes marked JS were disposed of in that time?
Mic drop on the mishandled weapon in the courtroom by an expert?!?!?!
My problem with his statement that they put round used into random boxes means that the live round been checked multiple times loaded in to weapons unload then put in that box.
1812 Overture calls for cannon near the end. I've been to a July 4the concert at a high school stadium where the local National Guard fired off a couple of cannon