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I love how the creative team behind this episode trusts the audience in this scene to understand what is going on without expository dialogue. We don't need to have it explained to us that her emotional outburst here exposed her witchhunt as a personal obsession, and that her credibility was shattered in an instant. The moment passes almost wordlessly afterwards, as everyone leaves the room, following the admiral until even her aides abandon her and she is left alone with her shame. Unspoken actions like this are brilliant drama, illustrating profound human truths without the need for words.
So often these days the writers "dumb down" scenes like this by having a character state the (seemingly) obvious. Far better to trust the actors to do their jobs and the audience to understand
The visiting Admiral had no speaking lines, but his action of simply standing and then walking out as Satee revealed herself for what she was. That act spoke louder than any words could.
She couldn't handle the truth.....and the truth was her father's quote. No wonder she lost it. Her father reached out from the grave to spank her, and she was pissed that Picard woke him.
@@jacksonheathen2092 , Absolutely. She was the worst kind of nut job. A righteous one with a mission, and the wherewithal to pull it off. Scary combination, really.
This is a scene that is required for the modern day. We are currently living through a time where people will enact witch hunts in a perverted sense of progress thus tainting the very morals they hold dear. Unfortunately that first thought was censored and that link has chained us and damaged us all. The question that is on my mind is how do we course correct? How do we shape the future? I should also clarify, whatever your feelings might be each one of us can point to multiple issues in which people act in the exact same way as this woman does. It's a pervasive mentality that I would argue has infected all aspects of intellectual discussion particularly here on social media. I feel myself included we are all guilty of succumbing to "righteous" fear and I for one do not like how it is changing me and I endeavour to try to expand my mind further so I can get to the heart of the many issues that currently plague us.
She's as good at seeing levers and pressure points in people as he is, and nastier with it, but he's a lot better at taking fire under pressure, for sure. He hit her right in the daddy issues.
The power to pressure others is a responsibility. To be used for the benefit of others in the name of peace and sanity. Though more often it is misused for personal gain as you could see with the Admiral and her witch hunts.
She starts with leading and biased interrogation with no interrogative or probing value, but instead begging the question and disturbing ad hominems. She attacks him like a child, assuming his guilt, which should have been plainly obvious. So, in response, Picard states an irrelevant response, ignoring the petty questions and going for the throat of her argument. He does this while ALSO making it incredibly personal, at her only distinct emotional vulnerability, WITHOUT technically using an Ad Hominem argument. He simply cites precedent and ideas of another, more esteemed judge. This man plays poker.
@@misterspaceman9563 It actually works on a lot of people under pressure. When accused, we tend to fire back and justify ourselves, which people like Satie use to show that the person in question is guilty. It takes a long time to learn not to bite back but to do what Picard does. Luckily, we can all learn that skill.
Not paranoia. Envy. She knew she was not the person her... father?... grandfather?... whatever, was. But she idolized him. And an envious person will always try to tear down others to make themselves look higher by comparison.
I love the acting of the Admiral in this scene. He straight up says "I have had enough of this shitshow" and straight up leaves. Prosecution was full of shit.
Prosecution is often full of shit. They want to hold the accused to the highest standards of the law which they trample upon daily by abusing their powers to serve their own agendas.
You could see how appalled he was when Satie spat "you dirty his name when you speak it"... he was saying to himself, what the hell kind of psycho have we let loose?!
@@oddish4352 She basically dictated what Picard had apparently done, she revealed she had convicted him before the trial even took place, at that moment it was over.
@@raptus9115 When I'm quoting the best lines in Trek, I actually include the admiral's "..." He never says a word. He doesn't have to. With his silent departure, everyone knows it's Game Over.
That was the thing, it was like when the Federation tried to make Kirk the scapegoat so they could keep the war between the klingons going, the Federation tried again here with her trying to paint everyone else in a sympathetic light, yet paint Picard as this "Borg sympathizer" when clearly he was kidnapped and assimilated against his will. And the sad part about it is, is that even when the first contact incident happened, Picard was told adamantly by Starfleet to stay away from Sector 001, but Picard ended up disobeying those orders.
She hurls his greatest trauma at him and he holds his ground. He *mentions* her father and she snaps like a twig. It's clear who has more integrity there.
Star Trek’s general themes have never been so important as they are in these recent years, and when NuTrek stuff started coming out, they think it’s appropriate to do the opposite, almost as if they hated such morality and optimistic positivity. It may sound absurd, but some people out there actually openly despise morality.
The scary thing about this moment is…it completely relies on the integrity of the rest of the attendees to not just realize, but act on the new revelation that occurred before them. If the majority decided to turn a blind eye, you’d have the subversion of and corruption of justice. It’s that slippery of a slope. More people need to see this episode, especially those in law enforcement here in the states.
@@bigtony4930 ...but of course. How else do you expect them to "meet new people". Certainly not based on their own merits as a person. Far easier to condemn someone important - someone famous, and then ride them and even whip that image until they've milked it for all it's worth. It's not like they could brag about voting for someone like, "Let's go Brandon!" or "Corn-Pop" etc. as they would surely be laughed at until they fell down in tears at the realization of being a great !@#$ up.
"one wonders how you can sleep at night." Oh no! Your unnecessary attack on his conscience activated his trap card, Superior Wisdom and Intellect. It allows him to draw on the words of anyone's ancestors, and he just chose ~your father~.
What sticks out to me is that Picard had to TELL her that her dad came up with that passage, and that she didn’t recognize it after the first few words. Imagine your dad coming up with a historical quote, and you can’t be bothered to recognize it when it’s quoted out-of-the-blue.
Picard was telling US who said it. She knew exactly what it was but wasn't expecting it. She spent the whole time attacking Picard. So expertly dismissing every defense he responded with as she was so accustom to doing. Picard: "I've documented every incident in my reports." Satie: "Yes, and we're looking in to those reports, very carefully." Then Picard quoted Judge Satie, her own father. Her first instinct would be to dismiss or discredit the quote, but that was her father. He was one of the good guys. She couldn't do that. But Picard was one of the bad guys, or so she has already decided. He can't be on the same side as her father. And when she finally realized Picard took away her only avenue or response, she didn't know what to do and freaked out because she wasn't in total control anymore.
I think she knew. That was more plot exposition for the audience. Kind of like how Picard probably would've know what took place on that Stardate, but asked for it to be elaborated on, because the show knew there might be audience members who missed it.
That moment when Adm. Henry decides he has better things he could be doing. "Hell, they hooked me up with HBO Max a bag of potato chips 'n salsa back in that suite... I'm out of here."
Apart from the usual class acting from Patrick Stewart, nailing his adversary to the desk, the superb Jean Simmonds also showed her extaordinary repertoire by her response, demonstrating the power of a woman on a vengeance mission being cut to the quick by her adversary. She acted the part with magnificent style. A very startling and suspenseful scene unusual in a Scifi Story. Wonderful and unexpected.
It isn't often that the acting, writing and casting are so wonderfully equal in their superb quality. This scene couldn't have been more perfect. Goosebumps every single time.
Picard knew he was going to have to confront Satie in this scene and when she started to pummel him with technical violations of Starfleet rules and regulations, he knew he was in for it. But when Worf came to his defense and she and her Betazed stabbed Worf for something Picard knows the truth for. Picard knew he had to pick up the proverbial bat'leth that Worf dropped for him and take her to task when she in a moment arrogance and boasting attacked him for his experiences with the Borg. And all it took was to throw her father's own words back at her and he was absolutely right doing so. The meltdown was perfect to see the whole thing was sham she kept going for no reason other than to weld immense political and judicial powers she didn't deserve to have.
Did she Fight at Wolf 359? Because if she Didn't how can she really understand what Picard felt during that battle? I bet Day and Night those Faces of People and Starships that were lost would haunt him alot I believe it will always remind him. So Is the Borg Queen a Startrek Female Version of Hitler? does the Battle at Wolf 359 remind anybody of any real Wars fought in reality?
I think that Picard always knew how to take her down: let her build up the tension and then recite that quote from her father. Her own obsession did the rest.
@@ethenallen1388 But I believe he didn't want to do it. When he put his hand to his forehead, it was him reluctantly coming to terms with destroying a brilliant woman with a stellar career and reputation. But if Picard was to stop this travesty, she didn't leave him any other choice.
@@danieldickson8591 when you watch All good things and they do the time shift to 2363 and you realize that she signed his orders for him to take command of the Enterprise, this scene hits different. It's not just that he was taking someone down that he held in high regard, but was responsible for putting him in his position. Not sure if it was a retcon or not. But damn, the writers played the long con.
Picard wasn't looking distraught because of what she was saying, he was distraught because he was left with no choice but to destroy her, and brutally he did. All her grand standing, all her threats and intimidation, yet he only needed to utter a single quote to bring her down.
He made multiple appeals to her to cease. However, I believe she handed him his weapon earlier when she quoted her father's words to her. In that instant she showed her weakness and destroyed herself.
@@Xardion55 WE ARE BORG. LOWER YOUR SHIELDS AND SURRENDER YOUR SHIPS. WE WILL ADD YOUR TECHNOLOGICAL AND BIOLOGICAL DISTINCTIVENESS TO OUR OWN. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.
Sadly. As the woke sweep through and ban speech and expression. Back in the days that this show was written, it was the Left that stood for freedom and liberty. Sad how things flipped. You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
@@Phatnaru0002 The Right are the original cancel culture warriors and still retain that title. Look up the "Satanic Panic". Then look at what they're trying to do today in rewriting our history, saying things like "slavery wasn't that bad" and such.
@@KayossSZ No one thinks slavery wasn't that bad. But I honestly think you don't understand what slavery was actually like in the past and how it was dismantled.
@@KayossSZ Wrong. You are right that the Right were the original cancel culture warriors. That's long since changed. Any semblance of cancelling right-wingers have been ostracized by the Right (for the time-being anyway). Meanwhile the Left is producing, AND ELEVATING TO THE MAINSTREAM, SJWs and hypersensitive identity politics. These days, the Right barely do anything to affect laws and policy at all, let alone cancel. Meanwhile, the "Progressives" are trying to cancel something new everyday, and often succeeding.
@@KayossSZ But does that give the Left the moral authority to be as repressive and authoritarian as they so obviously are today? Do the sins of the Right in the past justify the cancel culture and censorship of the present? When last I checked, two wrongs don't make a right, and an eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.
Here's my interpretation of this: Admiral Satie's paranoia and baseless accusations were probably nothing more than an attempt to uphold her father's legacy. The way she idolized him and mentioned their family dinners undoubtedly proves that she wanted to make him proud of her. Picard probably knew this, and that was why he quoted her father: He was subtly telling her that she was, in fact, dishonoring his legacy, and wanted to give her one last chance to realize it and stop. Instead, she blew her top, exposing herself. Upon hearing her outburst, Admiral Henry realized the truth of these investigations and left, annoyed that his time had been waisted. Upon seeing this, Satie probably realized that Picard was right, which was why she stayed in the room: She reflected on the realization that by ruining her credibility possibly irreparably, she would have to spend the rest of her life knowing that she'd let her father down forever.
Sabin Genestra: Perhaps we should call a recess, until tomorrow. Captain Picard: That wont be necessary. Mr. Worf, please escort the admiral and her staff to the transporter room. Mr. Worf: With pleasure, sir.
2:15 Action speaks louder than words. When the Admiral stood up and walked out of the room, he basically implied "That's it. I have enough of this bullshit."
Well said. His leaving showed that he had enough of this stupidity. But something went unseen I think. Her aid said "we will call a recess. UNTIL TOMORROW." He wasn't totally convinced.
In the novels of Star Trek: Destiny, where the entire Federation and allies fight the Borg, Tarsis is chief medical officer of Ezri Dax's ship, the Avintine.
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably". One of the best comebacks in TV history!
Words that are much needed today. "With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably". Even today, (Oct 2021) there are people behind powerful companies, and those in high places in government that want to shape the minds and hearts of the people. THEY have control of all the cultural institutions--they control the megaphones. THEY want you to only think what they want. And if you don't agree, THEY will silent you, limit the reach of your voice, or assign evil labels to you (which probably belongs to them). THEY will decided what is true and what is not for you. THEY will not let the people decide; instead they remove the conversation, because THEY are afraid of letting the people decided from their selves. THEY hide behind cloaks of goodness, but THEIR perceived motives are just a trojan horse. THEY don't want you to have freedom of thought. THEY want you to convert to THEIR way of thinking only. And THEY will outcast you, and turn the people agaist you if you don't comply. And many people will cheer for it. Because those people allowed themselves to be deceived. They don't know that one day, THEY will come for them too, because those people are not progressing towards the next chapter in THEIR corrective thinking program. It just a matter of time. Though, I have it on good authority that "THEY" will soon be expose, and "THEY" will go away. And when that happens, the people need to wise up, so a new "THEY" will never emerge again.
@@jackcawley4242 It wasn't exactly the show's theme, but it was meant to sound strong and noble, like Picard and his words. With that music the whole mood of the scene shifts.
The most telling part of that scene was when the kiss-ass syncophantic assistant (tall lady) walked out of the room along with everyone else at the end of the clip. Even kiss-ass assistants have a limit and you know you're in trouble when they turn on you.
I especially enjoyed the awkward pregnant pause from the time the admiral exited the chamber door in disgust to the moment Satie states that she has nothing more to say. It ran for the perfect amount of time, making the viewer realize that this nonsense is over with... ...until the next time... and the next... and the next... and so on ad infinitum. You know, vigilance being the price we must eternally pay and such.
As everyone left the room, Q folded his arms and cocked one eyebrow solely in her direction. Putting on his best smirk as if she could see him. "A clever, sly, cornered fox is FAR more dangerous than a hungry jackal."
The most tragic thing about Satie is that she wasn't an evil villainess out to destroy the Federation or plotted to turn it into a brutal dictatorship, she was trying to PROTECT the Federation and democracy. Alas, she got overzealous and unjustly persecuted Simon Tarses just because his grandfather was Romulan. Granted, the Romulans are master spies but the idea that there was some sort of multi-generational conspiracy and spy ring and that Simon Tarses was working for the Romulans was stupid. With that twisted logic, we should automatically suspect all Vulcans of being in league with the Romulans but then again, Satie and her aides likely believe that to be the case.
The problem is one of fear. And obsession. She had it stunned into her an obsessive love of “the federation” as something stagnant. What was to love was “her federation” Obsession brings with it a sense of ownership. If you’re obsessed with a video game. You see it as yours. The game is meant for you. Satie had nothing but the federation, by her own admission. Her obsession was arguably to a sheree of a surrogate Munchhausen by proxy.manufacturing problems that didn’t exist. Giving herself the validation of a crusade, and validating her own obsession and fears someone was out to tear it down from the inside. To accuse Picard, the man who saved earth at least twice (first season with those brain bugs that were infecting the senior command. And then the Borg) is lunacy. But she sees someone at odds with her obsession. In fact by not validating her obsession, he marks himself as an enemy. That’s how obsessive people work. You either validate them, or you’re an enemy. The genius of Picard, is that he recognises her father was a great man. And his greatness is what spawned this woman’s obsession. And he used that greatness to expose her obsession. Note, her father’s words were as a judge.not as a father. A judge makes law for all. Yet she would claim exclusive rights to his words. That possessiveness on display. As much as I hate Satie, great character for someone who’s studied post graduate psychology. Also the reason why I hate her. I have had to work (mostly with women) like her. They make terrible people. You just hope nobody ever gets them pregnant. Otherwise that poor child..
Even from her rant, it sounds as if this isn't just about punishing Picard for going against her. She really is genuinely suspicious of him, and thinks he's a likely traitor, a collaborator with the Romulans.
One of the best.. I noticed similarities between her work on The Thornbirds and Patrick Stewarts work in Sarek where they both conveyed the sorrow of unspoken feelings and missed opportunities
There is a big piece in this and other episodes that show one of the great things about TNG that are missing from so many shows today to add 'excitement'. Picard dealt with a whole bunch of corrupt officers in Starfleet, but when he exposed them they were taken down by Starfleet. Today every show has to have everyone but the immediate heroes being corrupt to make them seem more courageous. But this was about an institution that works in spite of having corrupt people. And people wonder why everybody sees corruption in every government decision that is disagreed with. It's become our culture
This was a brilliant episode. Picard knew that quoting her father against her would provoke her based on the conversation they had in his ready room. He outmaneuvered her and showed her for what she was -- a woman with deep emotional damage who was acting out instead of addressing her pain. Great writing.
The genius part is how this episode resulted from the production team running out of budget to do a typical action packed episode with lots of expensive special effects
She only “exposes” herself. Lovely writing, acting and overall production. Star Trek: Next Generation.. one of the few brilliant sequels in television history. Subbed.
At first, it was reasonable of Starfleet to turn her loose on this case. When it comes to espionage and subterfuge, catching spies and criminals is difficult work and they don't always leave enough evidence behind for you to get them with it. So sometimes the "shake the trees and see what falls out" approach is necessary. As long as she remained within the confines of people's rights, a little pressure is fine. But Picard saw her slowly getting careless in the insinuations she was making and knew that although insinuations might be kosher, Starfleet wouldn't tolerate her throwing full accusations around with no evidence. All he had to do was press her buttons in such a way as to provoke an accusation she had no evidence for, and Starfleet would immediately see that the investigation had run its course and she had nothing. So he made an argument against her methods that he knew she couldn't directly contradict since it was in her father's words, and she'd never directly contradict her father. So if she couldn't bear to call her father's words irrelevant, she would have to attack Picard himself for speaking them. And she was already so close to accusing him of something that she would probably blunder over the line. As soon as she used the word "traitorous" in reference to Picard without any evidence, let alone solid evidence, of treason... Admiral Henry knew her methods would yield no further fruit and that if she was allowed to continue she could only embarrass Starfleet.
Admiral Thomas Henry's face was like, "I can't believe I had to give up front-row seats at the UFP Parrises Squares Championship game for this nonsense."
2:18 Admiral Satie: "I brought down bigger men then you, Picard!" Admiral Henry (by walking out) and Captain Picard (to himself): "Yeah, but not the Captain of the flagship!"
"I brought down bigger men than you, Picard!" sums up this whole thing, really. It was never about justice or seeking the truth, she decided he's guilty and she'll stop at nothing to try to make it so.
Simmons really blew this performance out of the park. Everything from her mannerisms to that lip quiver after her character loses control just make this whole scene feel so real.
I love the ending of this scene. She's totally alone, abandoned by everyone that was supporting her, but she doesn't even notice. She's realising she's become exactly what her father despised.
And to think this was all BEFORE the Dominion and the Changelings were discovered. Had this episode aired after that time, the paranoia would've multiplied by 1000. A changeling might have even been discovered.
The look of abject dissatisfaction and disgust on the faces of most of the people in that hearing. It really says a lot about how quickly they all turned on her and were even disgusted with themselves for being so easily influenced and manipulated by her. There are plenty of narcissists like her that don't always get their comeuppance. But when they do, everyone involved feel less clean about themselves for being lead down such a path of ruin.
The Admiral in this scene always cracks me up, he gets up without saying a word during the middle of her emotional breakdown like "alright, that's enough of this shit."
Post Episode Notes by Susan Graham: After her outburst Admiral Satie disembarked from the Enterprise and relinquished her rank as Rear Admiral and surrendered herself into custody at the request of both Starfleet Command and Starfleet Intelligence who also did an investigation on several Witch-hunt by several Starfleet Flag Officers who also were soon arrested. Satie is now currently receiving intense counseling at Starfleet Medical.
"The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we are all damaged" I use to think that this was such a great quote, but now I return to see this episode and this speech and I just feel bittersweet about it, I loved this scene and how correct it felt what Picard said but I guess now that I've grown up I realize that people just use that to mean whatever the hell they want since "the freedom of a man" is an incredibly vague term.
Satie started a fight with Jean-luc Picard... and he finished it. That outburst was the emotional equivalent of a warp core breach. I just wish we could have seen what happened when Satie got called to the admiral's quarters to explain herself, and got subsequently put back out to pasture for good. If he rekt her that hard without talking, imagine what happened when he actually opened his mouth...
An incredible actress! She really portrayed this character so well, from the fake "friendly granny" facade at the beginning to her ripping off her mask and showing the vile snake underneath.
A very important point they should have given some time to was the fact that she believed that what she was doing was right and noble. She would not have invited the Admiral of Star Fleet Security to observe her inquiries otherwise, and it was why Picard was able to bring her down in the end.
This is the genius of the episode. She's a villain in function, but in her own mind she's heroic and righteous. That's such an important thing to understand about people.
@@literallyanangrymoose7717 It's better than those who spout the same bull, but only for their own enrichment. At least the self-righteous are a) genuine, and b) easy to predict, thus easy to defeat. The self-serving (under the guise of self-righteousness) will adapt to their surroundings, be anything they need to be to get ahead, and won't stick to one tactic.
Wow, this sounds like the 21st century. We are truly living in the Mirror Universe. Fun fact, the novel Dark Mirror stated that the lack of WW3 in the 90's was what caused the Terran Empire.
When I first saw this episode, I wondered why the admiral got up and left the room. At first, I thought maybe HE was the conspirator. Now I realize that wasn't the case. He basically had enough of Satie's angry rant. He finally realized she was just going on a wild witch hunt.
As soon as she started to lean into Picard's history - and distress - with the Borg, she was doomed. She had crossed a line. Picard wasn't going to let her get away with it. He fought fire with fire, and she got burned.
It shouldn't be a surprise, but you can't just start an investigation without something called _probable cause._ Satie likely got away with a _lot_ of misconduct because she was the daughter of this world's equivalent of John Marshall. Whereas an upstart prosecutor who tries the same thing would probably be told, "Get out before I refer you for sanctions." Adm. Henry walking out was likely the first and last time Satie would experience that well-deserved smackdown.
1:48 she's just interrupted Picard but he sits there, just staring at her, letting her go into her emotional tirade. Picard recalls the famous words from Napoleon no doubt: "never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake". Brilliant tactic by the captain - one must wonder whether he knew she would explode like that or only suspected. Either way, Picard absolutely knew EXACTLY what he was doing 👍
I’m not a lawyer but I think I can see what she was trying to do she wanted to gotten Picard into a emotional outbursts but it backfired and Picard gotten her into a emotional outburst and it was all over then
Being under the control of the Borg, hardly like he had a choice. Totally insane line of questioning or badgering of the witness. Sati would have been ruled out of order in front of a real judge.
Eventually even Worf who had been on her side for a lot of this realized that this whole situation was nothing more than a Witch Hunt last straw for him was when she went after Picard a man he has great respect for
It does not do to turn a court room into a witch hunt, filled with lies, suspicion, and hate. The Admiral leaving mid-speech said volumes. Clearly, everyone knows what kind of woman she is. Captain played that stressful situation very smoothly.
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One of my most favourit episodes of TNG
I love how the creative team behind this episode trusts the audience in this scene to understand what is going on without expository dialogue. We don't need to have it explained to us that her emotional outburst here exposed her witchhunt as a personal obsession, and that her credibility was shattered in an instant. The moment passes almost wordlessly afterwards, as everyone leaves the room, following the admiral until even her aides abandon her and she is left alone with her shame. Unspoken actions like this are brilliant drama, illustrating profound human truths without the need for words.
Well said.
…and now you’ve ruined it! Geez. You couldn’t wait another 30 years?!
And then you had to go ruin it by explaining it to me. Damn you Zentakai! Damn you to Hell !!!!
So often these days the writers "dumb down" scenes like this by having a character state the (seemingly) obvious. Far better to trust the actors to do their jobs and the audience to understand
I thought Admiral Henry overdosed on beans which then required an immediate evacuation of the entire room.
The visiting Admiral had no speaking lines, but his action of simply standing and then walking out as Satee revealed herself for what she was. That act spoke louder than any words could.
"I've seen all I need to."
“Damn I missed my golf holodeck for this?!”
And his silence spoke volumes.
By getting up and walking out, He was basically saying "alright, I've seen enough".
One of the best bits of acting you'll see from someone without any spoken lines.
She couldn't handle the truth.....and the truth was her father's quote.
No wonder she lost it. Her father reached out from the grave to spank her, and she was pissed that Picard woke him.
She was kind of a nut job.
@@jacksonheathen2092 , Absolutely. She was the worst kind of nut job. A righteous one with a mission, and the wherewithal to pull it off. Scary combination, really.
Looks like a reason she was retired lol...total wack job
This is a scene that is required for the modern day. We are currently living through a time where people will enact witch hunts in a perverted sense of progress thus tainting the very morals they hold dear. Unfortunately that first thought was censored and that link has chained us and damaged us all. The question that is on my mind is how do we course correct? How do we shape the future? I should also clarify, whatever your feelings might be each one of us can point to multiple issues in which people act in the exact same way as this woman does. It's a pervasive mentality that I would argue has infected all aspects of intellectual discussion particularly here on social media. I feel myself included we are all guilty of succumbing to "righteous" fear and I for one do not like how it is changing me and I endeavour to try to expand my mind further so I can get to the heart of the many issues that currently plague us.
@@thehelixgroup A pity the modern Picard is now the night job.
She's as good at seeing levers and pressure points in people as he is, and nastier with it, but he's a lot better at taking fire under pressure, for sure. He hit her right in the daddy issues.
Oh yea definitely lol...dug it right in the core issues
The power to pressure others is a responsibility. To be used for the benefit of others in the name of peace and sanity. Though more often it is misused for personal gain as you could see with the Admiral and her witch hunts.
@@Zoras88 yup
The age old issue with extremely left wing leaning females hahaha
@@Padge112 maybe she's actually right-leaning, we don't really know in this episode. Oh yeah, by the way I like the cat in your profile picture.
She starts with leading and biased interrogation with no interrogative or probing value, but instead begging the question and disturbing ad hominems. She attacks him like a child, assuming his guilt, which should have been plainly obvious.
So, in response, Picard states an irrelevant response, ignoring the petty questions and going for the throat of her argument. He does this while ALSO making it incredibly personal, at her only distinct emotional vulnerability, WITHOUT technically using an Ad Hominem argument. He simply cites precedent and ideas of another, more esteemed judge. This man plays poker.
And he wins
She's like a cop trying to intimidate an innocent person into confessing to a crime they didn't commit. Typically interrogation tactics.
@@jacksonheathen2092 It's a tactic that works on the young and ignorant. Picard is neither. She really should have realized he was above such tactics.
@@misterspaceman9563 Exactly.
@@misterspaceman9563 It actually works on a lot of people under pressure. When accused, we tend to fire back and justify ourselves, which people like Satie use to show that the person in question is guilty. It takes a long time to learn not to bite back but to do what Picard does.
Luckily, we can all learn that skill.
Picard: "Your daddy says you've been a bad girl."
FATALITY
SUB-ZERO WINS
😂👏👏👏👏
Bruh, it would kill me if his ghost said that to her 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣.
Toasty!
Also Picard: and it would improve your disposition to go to Risa. Take this: *gives her a Horga'hn*
Imagine how many good star fleet officers got their careers and lives ruined by her paranoia.
Much like a lot of movements today are doing to innocent people.
@@Rhyza13 Very well said.
this happens in the US military ALOT
A lot, including bigger men than Picard.
Not paranoia. Envy. She knew she was not the person her... father?... grandfather?... whatever, was. But she idolized him. And an envious person will always try to tear down others to make themselves look higher by comparison.
This lady's a piece of work.
In a few minutes, she paints Picard as incompetent and a Romulan AND BORG collaborator.
suprised sne didnt call gim a dem or repub
Im.surprised she didn't try calling him a racist, sexist, homophobe, etc. etc. etc.
@@davecrupel2817 the way Hollywood is going, don’t be to surprised when they remake this episode with such.
@@abehambino I won't be.
@@abehambino The Judge is literally how the GOP act when the Dems quote Republicans before they became shitholes.
I love the acting of the Admiral in this scene. He straight up says "I have had enough of this shitshow" and straight up leaves. Prosecution was full of shit.
Prosecution is often full of shit.
They want to hold the accused to the highest standards of the law which they trample upon daily by abusing their powers to serve their own agendas.
You could see how appalled he was when Satie spat "you dirty his name when you speak it"... he was saying to himself, what the hell kind of psycho have we let loose?!
@@oddish4352 She basically dictated what Picard had apparently done, she revealed she had convicted him before the trial even took place, at that moment it was over.
@@raptus9115 When I'm quoting the best lines in Trek, I actually include the admiral's "..."
He never says a word.
He doesn't have to.
With his silent departure, everyone knows it's Game Over.
That was the thing, it was like when the Federation tried to make Kirk the scapegoat so they could keep the war between the klingons going, the Federation tried again here with her trying to paint everyone else in a sympathetic light, yet paint Picard as this "Borg sympathizer" when clearly he was kidnapped and assimilated against his will.
And the sad part about it is, is that even when the first contact incident happened, Picard was told adamantly by Starfleet to stay away from Sector 001, but Picard ended up disobeying those orders.
She hurls his greatest trauma at him and he holds his ground. He *mentions* her father and she snaps like a twig. It's clear who has more integrity there.
and who is a fascist there. (It's her)
"I've taken down bigger men than you, Picard."
Lady, you've never gone up against Jean-Luc Picard!
Not even having a lot of friends at Starfleet Command will help, as Admiral Pressman would discover three years later.
But, .., there are no men bigger than Picard.
Lady, you've never gone up against The Jean-Luc Picard!*
@@adaeptzulander2928 Maybe Kirk, lol?
@@YoRocky89 she hasn't gone against or taken down Kirk though.
Those words were spoken 30 years ago as of 2021. And even now they resonate harder than ever before.
Star Trek’s general themes have never been so important as they are in these recent years, and when NuTrek stuff started coming out, they think it’s appropriate to do the opposite, almost as if they hated such morality and optimistic positivity. It may sound absurd, but some people out there actually openly despise morality.
@@teleportedbreadfor3days So true, one only has to look a the state of the world to see that
As Picard says, ‘Constant Vigilance’ is required to ward against such abuses. This is the price we all must pay for freedom
@@Boss__CQC He just said vigilance, as not everybody warrants being wary of. Sadly, some people do.
@@teleportedbreadfor3days Quite right, I just re watched it
" A reputation is a thing that takes a lifetime to build...and only a single moment to destroy"
The scary thing about this moment is…it completely relies on the integrity of the rest of the attendees to not just realize, but act on the new revelation that occurred before them. If the majority decided to turn a blind eye, you’d have the subversion of and corruption of justice. It’s that slippery of a slope. More people need to see this episode, especially those in law enforcement here in the states.
In the UK too
And not just in law enforcement. Political leaders- all of them- need to understand that without trust, there's little left.
Like Orange Menace's Cabinet members.
@@JohnnyAngel8 TDS spotted
@@bigtony4930 ...but of course. How else do you expect them to "meet new people". Certainly not based on their own merits as a person.
Far easier to condemn someone important - someone famous, and then ride them and even whip that image until they've milked it for all it's worth.
It's not like they could brag about voting for someone like, "Let's go Brandon!" or "Corn-Pop" etc. as they would surely be laughed at until they fell down in tears at the realization of being a great !@#$ up.
"one wonders how you can sleep at night."
Oh no! Your unnecessary attack on his conscience activated his trap card, Superior Wisdom and Intellect. It allows him to draw on the words of anyone's ancestors, and he just chose ~your father~.
It's time to d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-dismiss this case!
did you just Yugi- ohed the whole scene?
I summon Pot of Greed to draw three additional cards from my deck!
What sticks out to me is that Picard had to TELL her that her dad came up with that passage, and that she didn’t recognize it after the first few words. Imagine your dad coming up with a historical quote, and you can’t be bothered to recognize it when it’s quoted out-of-the-blue.
I suspect she was in shock at hearing it
Picard was telling US who said it. She knew exactly what it was but wasn't expecting it. She spent the whole time attacking Picard. So expertly dismissing every defense he responded with as she was so accustom to doing. Picard: "I've documented every incident in my reports." Satie: "Yes, and we're looking in to those reports, very carefully."
Then Picard quoted Judge Satie, her own father. Her first instinct would be to dismiss or discredit the quote, but that was her father. He was one of the good guys. She couldn't do that. But Picard was one of the bad guys, or so she has already decided. He can't be on the same side as her father.
And when she finally realized Picard took away her only avenue or response, she didn't know what to do and freaked out because she wasn't in total control anymore.
I think she knew. That was more plot exposition for the audience. Kind of like how Picard probably would've know what took place on that Stardate, but asked for it to be elaborated on, because the show knew there might be audience members who missed it.
@@SBabyOr he was just being careful not to admit to anything.
That moment when Adm. Henry decides he has better things he could be doing.
"Hell, they hooked me up with HBO Max a bag of potato chips 'n salsa back in that suite... I'm out of here."
Apart from the usual class acting from Patrick Stewart, nailing his adversary to the desk, the superb Jean Simmonds also showed her extaordinary repertoire by her response, demonstrating the power of a woman on a vengeance mission being cut to the quick by her adversary. She acted the part with magnificent style. A very startling and suspenseful scene unusual in a Scifi Story. Wonderful and unexpected.
It isn't often that the acting, writing and casting are so wonderfully equal in their superb quality. This scene couldn't have been more perfect. Goosebumps every single time.
Top tier talent.
She worked with Kirk Douglas and Stanley Kubrick in _Spartacus._
Something to think on?
_Look at the facial expressions of everyone in the room._
Picard knew he was going to have to confront Satie in this scene and when she started to pummel him with technical violations of Starfleet rules and regulations, he knew he was in for it. But when Worf came to his defense and she and her Betazed stabbed Worf for something Picard knows the truth for. Picard knew he had to pick up the proverbial bat'leth that Worf dropped for him and take her to task when she in a moment arrogance and boasting attacked him for his experiences with the Borg. And all it took was to throw her father's own words back at her and he was absolutely right doing so. The meltdown was perfect to see the whole thing was sham she kept going for no reason other than to weld immense political and judicial powers she didn't deserve to have.
Did she Fight at Wolf 359? Because if she Didn't how can she really understand what Picard felt during that battle? I bet Day and Night those Faces of People and Starships that were lost would haunt him alot I believe it will always remind him. So Is the Borg Queen a Startrek Female Version of Hitler? does the Battle at Wolf 359 remind anybody of any real Wars fought in reality?
I think that Picard always knew how to take her down: let her build up the tension and then recite that quote from her father. Her own obsession did the rest.
@@ethenallen1388 But I believe he didn't want to do it. When he put his hand to his forehead, it was him reluctantly coming to terms with destroying a brilliant woman with a stellar career and reputation. But if Picard was to stop this travesty, she didn't leave him any other choice.
@@danieldickson8591 when you watch All good things and they do the time shift to 2363 and you realize that she signed his orders for him to take command of the Enterprise, this scene hits different. It's not just that he was taking someone down that he held in high regard, but was responsible for putting him in his position. Not sure if it was a retcon or not. But damn, the writers played the long con.
Picard wasn't looking distraught because of what she was saying, he was distraught because he was left with no choice but to destroy her, and brutally he did. All her grand standing, all her threats and intimidation, yet he only needed to utter a single quote to bring her down.
Yeah, he didn't want to destroy Satie out of respect for her and her father but he had no choice, she had to be stopped.
He made multiple appeals to her to cease. However, I believe she handed him his weapon earlier when she quoted her father's words to her. In that instant she showed her weakness and destroyed herself.
And this is why you do not press the 'He was once Borg' button...
@@Xardion55 WE ARE BORG. LOWER YOUR SHIELDS AND SURRENDER YOUR SHIPS. WE WILL ADD YOUR TECHNOLOGICAL AND BIOLOGICAL DISTINCTIVENESS TO OUR OWN. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.
@@Xardion55 He's Locutus alright. 'The One Who Speaks'.
This might be one of my favorite episodes.
"vigilance is the price we must continue to pay"
Timeless and prophetic words of wisdom.
With the greatest respect:
_"Vigilance Mr. Worf. That is the price we have to continually pay."_
@@beingsshepherd you're correct. Thank you!
That is a very vague statement, though, so easy to bend to wicked wills.
In the world today this is closer to home than the writers could've imagined
Sadly. As the woke sweep through and ban speech and expression.
Back in the days that this show was written, it was the Left that stood for freedom and liberty.
Sad how things flipped. You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
@@Phatnaru0002 The Right are the original cancel culture warriors and still retain that title. Look up the "Satanic Panic". Then look at what they're trying to do today in rewriting our history, saying things like "slavery wasn't that bad" and such.
@@KayossSZ No one thinks slavery wasn't that bad. But I honestly think you don't understand what slavery was actually like in the past and how it was dismantled.
@@KayossSZ Wrong. You are right that the Right were the original cancel culture warriors. That's long since changed. Any semblance of cancelling right-wingers have been ostracized by the Right (for the time-being anyway). Meanwhile the Left is producing, AND ELEVATING TO THE MAINSTREAM, SJWs and hypersensitive identity politics.
These days, the Right barely do anything to affect laws and policy at all, let alone cancel. Meanwhile, the "Progressives" are trying to cancel something new everyday, and often succeeding.
@@KayossSZ But does that give the Left the moral authority to be as repressive and authoritarian as they so obviously are today? Do the sins of the Right in the past justify the cancel culture and censorship of the present? When last I checked, two wrongs don't make a right, and an eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.
Here's my interpretation of this:
Admiral Satie's paranoia and baseless accusations were probably nothing more than an attempt to uphold her father's legacy. The way she idolized him and mentioned their family dinners undoubtedly proves that she wanted to make him proud of her.
Picard probably knew this, and that was why he quoted her father: He was subtly telling her that she was, in fact, dishonoring his legacy, and wanted to give her one last chance to realize it and stop. Instead, she blew her top, exposing herself. Upon hearing her outburst, Admiral Henry realized the truth of these investigations and left, annoyed that his time had been waisted. Upon seeing this, Satie probably realized that Picard was right, which was why she stayed in the room: She reflected on the realization that by ruining her credibility possibly irreparably, she would have to spend the rest of her life knowing that she'd let her father down forever.
Sabin Genestra: Perhaps we should call a recess, until tomorrow.
Captain Picard: That wont be necessary. Mr. Worf, please escort the admiral and her staff to the transporter room.
Mr. Worf: With pleasure, sir.
Picard: Beam her back and forth until something goes wrong.
I think he was trying to find a way of distancing himself from someone who had just become a very bad career move.
“Mr. Worf, please escort the admiral and her staff to the airlock”
Worf: “With pleasure, sir” 😂
@@kellyweingart3692 Hold on, this aint BSG. Lol
@@FutureDeep No need. There were no ships or habitable worlds within transporter range.
2:15 Action speaks louder than words. When the Admiral stood up and walked out of the room, he basically implied "That's it. I have enough of this bullshit."
Well said. His leaving showed that he had enough of this stupidity.
But something went unseen I think. Her aid said "we will call a recess. UNTIL TOMORROW."
He wasn't totally convinced.
Stupendous scene.
I hope Simon Tarsis was allowed to keep his position in Starfleet.
I think it was in one of the DS9 novels that Tarsis became a highly respected chief medical officer on a ship somewhere. Good for him!
In the novels of Star Trek: Destiny, where the entire Federation and allies fight the Borg, Tarsis is chief medical officer of Ezri Dax's ship, the Avintine.
@@jeffnarrow3059 Thank you for the info! I read quite a few Trek books a long time ago and could not remember which one Tarsis was in.
@@spartacus778 You're welcome. I have a huge collection of Star Trek books, and I read them every day.
@@jeffnarrow3059 a man of culture. I love to see it. keep it real, sir
After S3E4 of Picard its becomes so painfully clear that he never stops standing trial for what was done to him by the Borg.
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably".
One of the best comebacks in TV history!
Words that are much needed today. "With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably".
Even today, (Oct 2021) there are people behind powerful companies, and those in high places in government that want to shape the minds and hearts of the people. THEY have control of all the cultural institutions--they control the megaphones. THEY want you to only think what they want. And if you don't agree, THEY will silent you, limit the reach of your voice, or assign evil labels to you (which probably belongs to them). THEY will decided what is true and what is not for you. THEY will not let the people decide; instead they remove the conversation, because THEY are afraid of letting the people decided from their selves.
THEY hide behind cloaks of goodness, but THEIR perceived motives are just a trojan horse. THEY don't want you to have freedom of thought. THEY want you to convert to THEIR way of thinking only. And THEY will outcast you, and turn the people agaist you if you don't comply. And many people will cheer for it. Because those people allowed themselves to be deceived. They don't know that one day, THEY will come for them too, because those people are not progressing towards the next chapter in THEIR corrective thinking program. It just a matter of time.
Though, I have it on good authority that "THEY" will soon be expose, and "THEY" will go away. And when that happens, the people need to wise up, so a new "THEY" will never emerge again.
@@Joshua-ew6ks But they will emerge again. Watch the next clip.
@@Joshua-ew6ks how very Q-anon of you
@@ericpetersen230 I don't get the reference.
And it definitely is an accurate description of the Biden administration
2:58 "Perhaps we should call a recess until tomorrow?"
3:02 *No, I think we're done here*
It's quite fascinating how the score can make the scene. From despair, to hope, and back to despair in just a few moments
The ST theme coming in under Picard's speech is perfect.
@@jackcawley4242 Would you happen to know where I could find that track?
@@jackcawley4242 It wasn't exactly the show's theme, but it was meant to sound strong and noble, like Picard and his words. With that music the whole mood of the scene shifts.
More like:
Despair, hope, madness and back to despair.
And finally to a little tune about beans.
The most telling part of that scene was when the kiss-ass syncophantic assistant (tall lady) walked out of the room along with everyone else at the end of the clip. Even kiss-ass assistants have a limit and you know you're in trouble when they turn on you.
Who is she? She’s gorgeous
Many applauses to Admiral Boss, who destroyed Satie without even uttering a word
I HAVE TO BELIEVE that this was a MUST WATCH in the BetterCallSaul writers room when they wrote Chicanery... both scenes are brilliant :) 🖖
I especially enjoyed the awkward pregnant pause from the time the admiral exited the chamber door in disgust to the moment Satie states that she has nothing more to say. It ran for the perfect amount of time, making the viewer realize that this nonsense is over with...
...until the next time... and the next... and the next... and so on ad infinitum. You know, vigilance being the price we must eternally pay and such.
PICARD DEFECATED IN A SUNROOF
@@BinarySecond well, maybe they had it coming
Jimmy: Can you reach into your breast pocket and tell me what's there?
Chuck: ...it's a bean.
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Q watching from his fifth-dimensional living room: "Oh, well played, Jean-Luc."
sometimes i think Q was setting up jean Luc picard in all of his adventures in every way possible...
@@stevenshewfelt888 The god is playing with his dolls again...
Also Q: ...Well, to be fair, she _did_ have it coming.
As everyone left the room, Q folded his arms and cocked one eyebrow solely in her direction. Putting on his best smirk as if she could see him.
"A clever, sly, cornered fox is FAR more dangerous than a hungry jackal."
The most tragic thing about Satie is that she wasn't an evil villainess out to destroy the Federation or plotted to turn it into a brutal dictatorship, she was trying to PROTECT the Federation and democracy. Alas, she got overzealous and unjustly persecuted Simon Tarses just because his grandfather was Romulan.
Granted, the Romulans are master spies but the idea that there was some sort of multi-generational conspiracy and spy ring and that Simon Tarses was working for the Romulans was stupid. With that twisted logic, we should automatically suspect all Vulcans of being in league with the Romulans but then again, Satie and her aides likely believe that to be the case.
The problem is one of fear. And obsession.
She had it stunned into her an obsessive love of “the federation” as something stagnant. What was to love was “her federation”
Obsession brings with it a sense of ownership.
If you’re obsessed with a video game. You see it as yours. The game is meant for you.
Satie had nothing but the federation, by her own admission.
Her obsession was arguably to a sheree of a surrogate Munchhausen by proxy.manufacturing problems that didn’t exist. Giving herself the validation of a crusade, and validating her own obsession and fears someone was out to tear it down from the inside.
To accuse Picard, the man who saved earth at least twice (first season with those brain bugs that were infecting the senior command. And then the Borg) is lunacy.
But she sees someone at odds with her obsession. In fact by not validating her obsession, he marks himself as an enemy. That’s how obsessive people work. You either validate them, or you’re an enemy.
The genius of Picard, is that he recognises her father was a great man. And his greatness is what spawned this woman’s obsession.
And he used that greatness to expose her obsession.
Note, her father’s words were as a judge.not as a father. A judge makes law for all.
Yet she would claim exclusive rights to his words. That possessiveness on display.
As much as I hate Satie, great character for someone who’s studied post graduate psychology.
Also the reason why I hate her. I have had to work (mostly with women) like her. They make terrible people. You just hope nobody ever gets them pregnant. Otherwise that poor child..
Even from her rant, it sounds as if this isn't just about punishing Picard for going against her. She really is genuinely suspicious of him, and thinks he's a likely traitor, a collaborator with the Romulans.
She reminds me of Glenn Close’s character in Damages. An entire life devoted to a mere job, with absolutely nothing to show for it.
The great Jean Simmons as Admiral Satee. One of the grand ladies of old-school Hollywood, showing she can still bring the honey and the hemlock.
One of the best.. I noticed similarities between her work on The Thornbirds and Patrick Stewarts work in Sarek where they both conveyed the sorrow of unspoken feelings and missed opportunities
There is a big piece in this and other episodes that show one of the great things about TNG that are missing from so many shows today to add 'excitement'. Picard dealt with a whole bunch of corrupt officers in Starfleet, but when he exposed them they were taken down by Starfleet. Today every show has to have everyone but the immediate heroes being corrupt to make them seem more courageous. But this was about an institution that works in spite of having corrupt people. And people wonder why everybody sees corruption in every government decision that is disagreed with. It's become our culture
This was a brilliant episode. Picard knew that quoting her father against her would provoke her based on the conversation they had in his ready room. He outmaneuvered her and showed her for what she was -- a woman with deep emotional damage who was acting out instead of addressing her pain. Great writing.
The music score from 0:59 /1:23 is so beautiful and fitting to the scene. Expressing the hopeful nature of man.
The genius part is how this episode resulted from the production team running out of budget to do a typical action packed episode with lots of expensive special effects
She only “exposes” herself. Lovely writing, acting and overall production. Star Trek: Next Generation.. one of the few brilliant sequels in television history. Subbed.
Borrowed heavily from captain Queeg's trial in the "Caine Mutiny"
At first, it was reasonable of Starfleet to turn her loose on this case. When it comes to espionage and subterfuge, catching spies and criminals is difficult work and they don't always leave enough evidence behind for you to get them with it. So sometimes the "shake the trees and see what falls out" approach is necessary. As long as she remained within the confines of people's rights, a little pressure is fine. But Picard saw her slowly getting careless in the insinuations she was making and knew that although insinuations might be kosher, Starfleet wouldn't tolerate her throwing full accusations around with no evidence. All he had to do was press her buttons in such a way as to provoke an accusation she had no evidence for, and Starfleet would immediately see that the investigation had run its course and she had nothing. So he made an argument against her methods that he knew she couldn't directly contradict since it was in her father's words, and she'd never directly contradict her father. So if she couldn't bear to call her father's words irrelevant, she would have to attack Picard himself for speaking them. And she was already so close to accusing him of something that she would probably blunder over the line.
As soon as she used the word "traitorous" in reference to Picard without any evidence, let alone solid evidence, of treason... Admiral Henry knew her methods would yield no further fruit and that if she was allowed to continue she could only embarrass Starfleet.
LOVED the ship centered philosophical episodes. This is the TNG i love
Admiral Thomas Henry's face was like, "I can't believe I had to give up front-row seats at the UFP Parrises Squares Championship game for this nonsense."
I love how intense and disjointed the music became, and then waned as she wrapped up her madness.
2:18 Admiral Satie: "I brought down bigger men then you, Picard!" Admiral Henry (by walking out) and Captain Picard (to himself): "Yeah, but not the Captain of the flagship!"
"I brought down bigger men than you, Picard!" sums up this whole thing, really. It was never about justice or seeking the truth, she decided he's guilty and she'll stop at nothing to try to make it so.
She is so good in this role. Wow.
Simmons really blew this performance out of the park. Everything from her mannerisms to that lip quiver after her character loses control just make this whole scene feel so real.
🃏That look on Riker’s face when he realizes his Captain is laying down a Royal Flush word by word. ♦️ ♦️ ♦️ ♦️ ♦️ @1:12
I love the ending of this scene. She's totally alone, abandoned by everyone that was supporting her, but she doesn't even notice. She's realising she's become exactly what her father despised.
I love how Picard slowly casts his gaze upward. He lit the fuse and just watches the fireworks.
I love how the Admiral just gets up and leaves the room
And to think this was all BEFORE the Dominion and the Changelings were discovered. Had this episode aired after that time, the paranoia would've multiplied by 1000. A changeling might have even been discovered.
I've been watching these clips a lot lately and it's only now that I realize I have the complete series.
That interrogator came so close to dying painfully when he brought up Worfs father! Lol
The look of abject dissatisfaction and disgust on the faces of most of the people in that hearing. It really says a lot about how quickly they all turned on her and were even disgusted with themselves for being so easily influenced and manipulated by her.
There are plenty of narcissists like her that don't always get their comeuppance. But when they do, everyone involved feel less clean about themselves for being lead down such a path of ruin.
Look at Worf's face at 1:59. He was like, "Seriously?"
The Admiral in this scene always cracks me up, he gets up without saying a word during the middle of her emotional breakdown like "alright, that's enough of this shit."
Still one of my favorite episodes!
And Picard's speech is so relevant today.
Sad but true.
I love your channel. For someone who knows every episode, it gives me all the chewy nougat without all the fluff.
Admiral Hansen was rolling around in his space grave when she said Picard aided the Borg!
Post Episode Notes by Susan Graham:
After her outburst Admiral Satie disembarked from the Enterprise and relinquished her rank as Rear Admiral and surrendered herself into custody at the request of both Starfleet Command and Starfleet Intelligence who also did an investigation on several Witch-hunt by several Starfleet Flag Officers who also were soon arrested. Satie is now currently receiving intense counseling at Starfleet Medical.
Great to always see Star Trek bring acting giants from a bygone era into their episodes. RIP Jean Simmons
"The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we are all damaged"
I use to think that this was such a great quote, but now I return to see this episode and this speech and I just feel bittersweet about it, I loved this scene and how correct it felt what Picard said but I guess now that I've grown up I realize that people just use that to mean whatever the hell they want since "the freedom of a man" is an incredibly vague term.
“Someone’s got to take it to far, and ruin it for everyone else”.
This is happening today in so many places, a prosecutor wants convictions more than justice.
This is a truly great episode. One of if not the best.
Satie started a fight with Jean-luc Picard... and he finished it. That outburst was the emotional equivalent of a warp core breach.
I just wish we could have seen what happened when Satie got called to the admiral's quarters to explain herself, and got subsequently put back out to pasture for good. If he rekt her that hard without talking, imagine what happened when he actually opened his mouth...
2:08 that look on the admiral's face is *priceless*
The admiral just nopes out of there :D
An incredible actress! She really portrayed this character so well, from the fake "friendly granny" facade at the beginning to her ripping off her mask and showing the vile snake underneath.
A very important point they should have given some time to was the fact that she believed that what she was doing was right and noble. She would not have invited the Admiral of Star Fleet Security to observe her inquiries otherwise, and it was why Picard was able to bring her down in the end.
Self-righteous people always believe that they're doing what's right.
This is the genius of the episode. She's a villain in function, but in her own mind she's heroic and righteous. That's such an important thing to understand about people.
@@boiledelephant No one ever sees themselves as the bad guy.
@@literallyanangrymoose7717 It's better than those who spout the same bull, but only for their own enrichment. At least the self-righteous are a) genuine, and b) easy to predict, thus easy to defeat. The self-serving (under the guise of self-righteousness) will adapt to their surroundings, be anything they need to be to get ahead, and won't stick to one tactic.
I wish Congress had members with Jean-Luc Picard’s substantial integrity.
She: I've brought down bigger men than you! Picard: let me introduce my buddy, Q!
Wow, this sounds like the 21st century. We are truly living in the Mirror Universe.
Fun fact, the novel Dark Mirror stated that the lack of WW3 in the 90's was what caused the Terran Empire.
So glad to have seen the great Jean Simmons on this episode.
I thought I recognized her voice. She played the older Sophie in "Howl's Moving Castle".
@@GustavPapillon 👍
Jean Simmons was a glorious actress.
2:37 I'm thinking the telepath got more out of that rant then he would have liked.
When I first saw this episode, I wondered why the admiral got up and left the room. At first, I thought maybe HE was the conspirator. Now I realize that wasn't the case. He basically had enough of Satie's angry rant. He finally realized she was just going on a wild witch hunt.
As soon as she started to lean into Picard's history - and distress - with the Borg, she was doomed. She had crossed a line. Picard wasn't going to let her get away with it. He fought fire with fire, and she got burned.
It shouldn't be a surprise, but you can't just start an investigation without something called _probable cause._ Satie likely got away with a _lot_ of misconduct because she was the daughter of this world's equivalent of John Marshall. Whereas an upstart prosecutor who tries the same thing would probably be told, "Get out before I refer you for sanctions."
Adm. Henry walking out was likely the first and last time Satie would experience that well-deserved smackdown.
When Admiral Seti is left alone in the room, you can hear all those Sith holocrons hissing at her in the silence...
1:48 she's just interrupted Picard but he sits there, just staring at her, letting her go into her emotional tirade. Picard recalls the famous words from Napoleon no doubt: "never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake". Brilliant tactic by the captain - one must wonder whether he knew she would explode like that or only suspected. Either way, Picard absolutely knew EXACTLY what he was doing 👍
She got played so hard lmao
No....she played herself.
"I brought bigger man than you Picard..." well who lady?...who you brought down?
I’m not a lawyer but I think I can see what she was trying to do she wanted to gotten Picard into a emotional outbursts but it backfired and Picard gotten her into a emotional outburst and it was all over then
She'd fit right into the US government or on a US corporate media "news" station. Just replace "Romulan" with "Russian" and maybe also "Chinese."
These star trek eps will always be relevant
2:31 It was at this moment she knew...
well, the admiral leaving the room might have been a giveaway :)
...she ****ed up.
An episode that perfectly encapsulates the times in which we live today.
And in 5 years…we’ll have Saties fighting Saties.
Being under the control of the Borg, hardly like he had a choice. Totally insane line of questioning or badgering of the witness. Sati would have been ruled out of order in front of a real judge.
The locked camara with a slow zoom out on her is so perfect. She gets smaller and more alone as poeple simply walk out, bewildered at her idiocy.
That Admiral was definitely having a major Captain Queeg moment
Oh shit it's him!
She gave a wonderful performance here, great acting.
*"I'VE BROUGHT DOWN BIGGER BEANS THAN YOU, PICARD!"*
Objectivity has left the courtroom.
Eventually even Worf who had been on her side for a lot of this realized that this whole situation was nothing more than a Witch Hunt last straw for him was when she went after Picard a man he has great respect for
It does not do to turn a court room into a witch hunt, filled with lies, suspicion, and hate. The Admiral leaving mid-speech said volumes. Clearly, everyone knows what kind of woman she is. Captain played that stressful situation very smoothly.