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Worst Possible D&D Commander Show: Forge | Xenk | Doric | Edgin EDH Magic The Gathering Gameplay #58

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  • @ella6547
    @ella6547 Рік тому +101

    I love when Ben hosts the show. He may need a few prompts but he always moves seemlessly into the segments, and always entertains

  • @myhairismessy3363
    @myhairismessy3363 Рік тому +47

    31:03 Detainment Spell prevents activated abilities from being activated, but Doric’s transformation cost is a triggered ability.

  • @TedMattos
    @TedMattos Рік тому +91

    I feel like we all would have a better life if we had a Ben in our lives. :)

    • @RM_3D
      @RM_3D Рік тому +8

      he's got Baloo vibes and look xD "the simple Ben-necessities"

    • @wesrouse2599
      @wesrouse2599 Рік тому +2

      Ben is my favorite ❤

  • @charlesnevsimal9235
    @charlesnevsimal9235 Рік тому +13

    I couldn't love this show more. The game play is fantastic, but there is nothing better than watching the four of you interact around a table. And Ben, remember ... you're cool.

  • @Oh_My_Josh
    @Oh_My_Josh Рік тому +28

    Ben is so geniune! As he gets better at hosting, it's gonna be awesome! We love you Ben!!

  • @mattipaarni8594
    @mattipaarni8594 Рік тому +16

    I do love it when Ben narrates the episodes. Somehow it doesn’t feel as practiced compared to some of the others :) great game anyway

  • @myhairismessy3363
    @myhairismessy3363 Рік тому +28

    28:17 Edgin can’t target Xenk as he has protection from creatures via Spirit Mantle.

    • @mmburp
      @mmburp Рік тому +11

      Protection was also invalid for the same reason

    • @highshelf
      @highshelf 6 місяців тому

      ​@@mmburp lmao

  • @Oppilonus
    @Oppilonus Рік тому +4

    When you make a copy of a card (say with mnemonic deluge) the copy is created, and then cast, from the zone the original card was in. I only know this because delayed blast fireball is amazing in my Myra the Magnificent deck.

  • @runcmd1419
    @runcmd1419 Рік тому +14

    Listening to CGB go through all his possible plays on arena stream really improved my play instead of doing the ‘obvious’ thing immediately.

  • @alexandreyergeau8326
    @alexandreyergeau8326 Рік тому +18

    ''Several spells specify copying a sorcery or instant "card", then allow a player to "cast the copy". In these cases, the only place the copy will actually exist is on the stack, but the player must go through the casting process as if casting the spell from the hand. The most obscure version is Epic, where the copy is directly put on the stack without casting and potentially without a visible source. '' Mnemonic Deluge is one of those spells, meaning the copies were actually considered effectively cast by Blake, and since they weren't cast from hand, the secondary effect of Delayed Blast Fireball should have happened, for each CAST copies (from Mnemonic Deluge).

    • @chrischristensen6779
      @chrischristensen6779 Рік тому +2

      I believe delayed blast fireball does specify that it has to be cast from exile, its not one of the ones that just say “if it was not cast from hand”

    • @AlbertJanVaartjes
      @AlbertJanVaartjes Рік тому +8

      Mnemonic copies the card, the card is in exile at that moment, so the copies are cast from exile. I was doubting this, but found a post on Delayed Blast Fireball and Arcane Bombardment with the explanation:
      707.12. An effect that instructs a player to cast a copy of an object (and not just copy a spell) follows the rules for casting spells**, except that the copy is created in the same zone the object is in** and then cast while another spell or ability is resolving. Casting a copy of an object follows steps 601.2a-h of rule 601, “Casting Spells,” and then the copy becomes cast. Once cast, the copy is a spell on the stack, and just like any other spell it can resolve or be countered.

    • @BlakeMTG
      @BlakeMTG Рік тому +5

      Good to know! Magic is hard 😊

    • @AlbertJanVaartjes
      @AlbertJanVaartjes Рік тому +1

      @@BlakeMTG yeah, becoming a MtG Judge must be like getting a PhD in physics 😅

    • @mmmmmq
      @mmmmmq Рік тому +1

      @@AlbertJanVaartjesgotta love it when other people copy paste a “rule explanation” with no context. 😂 thank you for posting an actual and correct Comprehensive Rule reference.

  • @terryrobertson3273
    @terryrobertson3273 Рік тому +12

    Ben cannot target his commander with the alseid because it has protection from creatures...

  • @psy_p
    @psy_p Рік тому +1

    The copies from Mnemonic Deluge are indeed cast from exile. When an effect lets you copy a card and castvthe copy, the copy is cast from the same zone the card id in, since Deluge exiles first then copy, the copies are cast from exile and would deal 5 damage each.

  • @miamixstud
    @miamixstud Рік тому +2

    your guys production quality and interaction is fantastic. You'd think this was easier but from sampling the web it very much so is not. Love your content and would love to see more!

  • @oakmountain2788
    @oakmountain2788 Рік тому +4

    It is utter chaos when Ben is in the drivers seat, and I am HERE for it xD

  • @dunam123
    @dunam123 Рік тому +1

    I love watching Ben host. Its so genuine and heart-felt. It really adds a personal flavour!

  • @leafy470
    @leafy470 Рік тому +2

    Whenever Ben hosts the show, great joy is brought to everyone! I love it! 😂

  • @AzureAiluren
    @AzureAiluren Рік тому +3

    Blake finally deciding to destroy CGB's altar is the kind of plays that commander is made of! That was a very juicy turn, and I'm only sad that Ben didn't actually take advantage of it. Got immediately betrayed for it, too.
    Lesson 1: Never trust CGB.
    Lesson 2: Don't ignore Shea all game.

  • @runcmd1419
    @runcmd1419 Рік тому +4

    First thought on reading Blake’s commander was “I hope he runs Thran Turbine”.

  • @salthebard6258
    @salthebard6258 Рік тому +3

    Couldn't agree more on stopping the Bard hate

  • @jordanvaughan768
    @jordanvaughan768 Рік тому

    Let this episode be a lesson to both WotC on how to continue making commanders and to players on how to build around commanders! Wow, when was the last time we saw *each* commander play such a huge role in everybody’s game plan? This was my favorite episode in a long time! I was already thinking of building Simon, but now I want to build all 4 of these as well 😂

  • @regail7143
    @regail7143 Рік тому +1

    Love watching you guys, content feels very genuine and fun to watch, especially because of the differing playstyles across the group.

  • @marnixw8724
    @marnixw8724 Рік тому +2

    27:40 Ben should not be able to target his commander with the alseid because it has protection from creatures

  • @dayel11
    @dayel11 Рік тому +1

    I like that in the end despite all the shenanigans, death came at the hand of a giant beefy creature.

  • @Lancebit
    @Lancebit Рік тому +5

    Does the bard do anything in this one?

  • @consolescrub4031
    @consolescrub4031 Рік тому +1

    Mixing up the standard comments about streamers appearance internet people get by saying Blake and Ben are looking great today. Love a good T-shirt although I'd be worried if I had Blake's since it would always be missing.

  • @ToadimusPrime
    @ToadimusPrime Рік тому +4

    We have 2 bards in our party of 6. They're useless.

    • @BlakeMTG
      @BlakeMTG Рік тому

      Take it back

    • @ToadimusPrime
      @ToadimusPrime Рік тому

      @@BlakeMTG I will once they do something

    • @vectorstrike
      @vectorstrike Рік тому

      Just get 2 more and they can start a barcore band!

  • @viviang3000
    @viviang3000 Рік тому

    Y’all posing as your commanders is my favorite part of these videos !! I love it!

  • @moonbreaker
    @moonbreaker Рік тому

    Can I frame Shae's smile and have it on my desk so I can look at it when things get rough? This is such an underrated show. Love it CGB

  • @De_Trees
    @De_Trees Рік тому

    I love the vibe you guys put out. So genuine and epic soundtracks to top it all off!!!

  • @fenixmeaney6170
    @fenixmeaney6170 Рік тому +1

    I believe mnemonic deluge delayed blast does kill cgb, because the copies ARE still cast.

  • @justincurtis1081
    @justincurtis1081 9 місяців тому

    Can’t tell if Ben does the promos like this on purpose or if he needs work lol! Love it either way.

  • @russellbaker6599
    @russellbaker6599 Рік тому +1

    I freakin love this commander show and all the ppl on it. Hoping one day i'll be able to meet you guys, possibly play a game or two, and smoke a fatty with Blake! 🤙🤣

    • @BlakeMTG
      @BlakeMTG Рік тому +1

      Well that’s An Offer I Can’t Refuse 🤷‍♂️

  • @Sasoridellasabbia
    @Sasoridellasabbia Рік тому

    Everyone of you should have their own intro catchphrase. Ben's apparently is "Let's get into it!'

  • @PirateNori
    @PirateNori Рік тому

    Shae! Your 32:40 commander was indestructible!

  • @adamgreen6051
    @adamgreen6051 Рік тому +2

    Serious question because I want to know how it works. Nissa gives +1/+1 per forest to each creature on the battlefield when she ultimates. When owlbear flips, is that a new creature and therefore without the bonus from Nissa?

    • @azlath
      @azlath Рік тому +1

      I think that is the case, but I'm not sure... I'd like somone else to confirm this

    • @adamgreen6051
      @adamgreen6051 Рік тому

      @@azlath Judge?!

    • @paulhorton5168
      @paulhorton5168 Рік тому

      @@azlath If the card says it is exiled before transforming, it should lose the counter. I reread the cards and it only says it transforms and is not exiled. Therefore, I think it is right that the counter will remain no matter which side it's on.

    • @Kestral287
      @Kestral287 Рік тому +2

      Paul is correct. If a card transforms without exiling, it's the same object and anything on it carries over. You can see this pretty clearly with the new Incubate tokens; they wouldn't work if transforming took away their counters and the +1/+1 effect from Nissa works similarly. If the card exiles to transform it would lose the buff, but Doric can't really work that way since she'd also no longer be attacking.

    • @adamgreen6051
      @adamgreen6051 Рік тому

      @@Kestral287 awesome explanation. Thank you!

  • @Blackadam36
    @Blackadam36 Рік тому

    31:26 I’m glad that high five was censored lol

  • @charlesmwolf
    @charlesmwolf Рік тому

    she attacked the same turn with terrasque as she summoned it, and it did not have any way to gain haste, so that attack with the terrasque was an illegal one 37:00

  • @lukecormier6913
    @lukecormier6913 Рік тому

    @35:11 deluge does specifially say you cast the copies though not sure if it counts as from exile

  • @joehusbands8538
    @joehusbands8538 Рік тому

    Dude Blake fucking kills me. "Don't stare at the camera for too long guys"

  • @garnet_gaming4269
    @garnet_gaming4269 Рік тому +1

    Incredible editing work by Brent as usual

  • @MrDontSubscribeToMe
    @MrDontSubscribeToMe Рік тому +2

    Blake is always wearing a hat so unsure if he got a fresh cut
    Regardless hair is looking nice!

  • @themodfathr
    @themodfathr Рік тому +2

    I don’t see why people were targeting Blake so much throughout the first half of the game

    • @paulhorton5168
      @paulhorton5168 Рік тому

      You must have missed the previous episode. He ran away with the whole game and very quickly.

  • @breakingblackmagic7617
    @breakingblackmagic7617 Рік тому

    i put forge in my NEGAN deck but i really want to make a deck out of him so , thanks for this video!

  • @fivecolorscotty
    @fivecolorscotty Рік тому

    Detainment spells only stop activated abilities, but Shae's commander says "when it attacks", making it a triggered ability

  • @blaineallen5297
    @blaineallen5297 Рік тому

    Been loving this channel and lpve to see CGB guesting in other channels as well

  • @CosmicIceCream
    @CosmicIceCream Рік тому

    Awesome finish, there's just something terrifying about that particular planes walker.

  • @deadneck13
    @deadneck13 Рік тому

    I don't know when background music was added to the games, or if it's just louder than before, but this is the first time I've turned off a video in this series because of the music. Couldn't even make it 15 minutes in.

  • @danielolivacanche1877
    @danielolivacanche1877 Рік тому

    I really enjoy your content guys! well done. Greetings from Ireland.

  • @JulioGarcia-pj8rq
    @JulioGarcia-pj8rq Рік тому

    Snakes do fly. I saw a movie about it. They went on a plane with their friend samuel l jackson.

  • @wordsonpaper3869
    @wordsonpaper3869 7 місяців тому

    That ending was priceless 😂

  • @paulhorton5168
    @paulhorton5168 Рік тому

    Ben will get better at hosting with more experience. It's cool to have a friendly group that provides so much support.

  • @stevenwertz5704
    @stevenwertz5704 Рік тому

    After ben showing cgb mercy and not wiping him out he turns around and tries to hit him for 14 SNAKE MOVE

  • @matthewbryan6774
    @matthewbryan6774 Рік тому +1

    Really should’ve had different stacks for the foretold cards.. cause pretty sure one was cast that couldn’t be.. 🤷‍♂️ but then again few mistakes were made.. it happens

  • @Ephsy
    @Ephsy Рік тому

    I adore the live host coaching

  • @Kilawpilath
    @Kilawpilath Рік тому +1

    I agree with Blake, Bards aren't useless.. Boss fights are harder when you don't have a super cool buff bot like a Bard.

    • @Kestral287
      @Kestral287 Рік тому

      Bards are great but Edgin forgot how his own class works and didn't actually cast spells, which makes the class significantly worse.

    • @Kilawpilath
      @Kilawpilath Рік тому

      @@Kestral287 The Chaos of battle can make you forget a lot. So it's forgivable. Doesn't mean the class as a whole was worthless. Just he was forgetful. :)

    • @vectorstrike
      @vectorstrike Рік тому

      But sometimes they jus't don't care: ua-cam.com/users/shortsNDMAugmUyDA

    • @charlesmwolf
      @charlesmwolf Рік тому

      @@Kestral287 its more like the writers really wanted to emasculate their male lead, they even said so multiple times in interviews.

  • @highshelf
    @highshelf 6 місяців тому

    32:37 you can block with your indestructible commander

  • @sierrarome9512
    @sierrarome9512 Рік тому +2

    Looked a lot like that abrade got pulled from the bottom of the foretell stack and would’ve been uncuttable on Blake’s turn.

    • @twentyfive3168
      @twentyfive3168 Рік тому +1

      You might be right, 28:01 that's what it looked like too.

    • @BlakeMTG
      @BlakeMTG Рік тому +3

      I actually moved them around so the bottom card was what I wanted to play, looking back now that’s changing unknown information and is not correct play, never played with foretell before 😬

  • @blaineallen5297
    @blaineallen5297 Рік тому

    Btw whered you get that awesome sleeve there, CGB?

  • @robcrgr5233
    @robcrgr5233 Рік тому

    I love the host that is Benjamin J Trainwreck.

  • @mathiascarling5487
    @mathiascarling5487 Місяць тому

    Second attack of Ben, did he really needed to do that because of goad? That dropped of at Blake’s turn right?

  • @homebrewed
    @homebrewed Рік тому

    CGB Ben saves you and you whack them for 14 after, gross....I LOVE IT!

  • @alanjames1484
    @alanjames1484 Рік тому

    41:40 ward only triggers when targeted by an opponent, Shea world be forced to fight

  • @TheStanishStudios
    @TheStanishStudios Рік тому +2

    The D&D movie honestly slapped, super underrated! Great fun

  • @jorwegs
    @jorwegs Рік тому +1

    Lol the high five was censored 😂

  • @HaleG9
    @HaleG9 Рік тому +1

    I just love Shae's smile...

  • @Mrbones1102
    @Mrbones1102 Рік тому

    Can Ben host my life? Can Ben narrate my life?

  • @coyotebongrips5116
    @coyotebongrips5116 Рік тому

    started watching everything on 1.25 speed, this is hilarious

  • @Markos2007
    @Markos2007 Рік тому

    The censored high five killed me dead

  • @Ramschat
    @Ramschat Рік тому +1

    Ward only applies to spells and abilities of opponents, so The Terrasque has to fight

    • @Tongarism
      @Tongarism Рік тому

      They're referring to Forge's ward cost of sacrificing a creature. The fight trigger targets Forge, Shea doesn't pay the cost, the fight ability is countered by Forge's ward. It was a clever way to make sure the trample damage got through.

  • @Ktwitch88
    @Ktwitch88 Рік тому

    The movie was amazing! The cards are great this game was so fun!

  • @4fr0d1s14cuM
    @4fr0d1s14cuM Рік тому +2

    Ben took double damage several times because he subtracted the damage and then the commander damage...

    • @tau.r.u
      @tau.r.u Рік тому +2

      As far as I see, this app doesn't work like that, but do check the app you and your playgroup use, because some definitely do.

  • @michaelgilbert5224
    @michaelgilbert5224 Рік тому +1

    Ben is hosting again yes!!!!

  • @AndrewBater
    @AndrewBater Рік тому

    WotC should have given you guys these cards earlier than release. I want to buy them after watching the episode but the SL is over now :(

  • @Kenthis15
    @Kenthis15 Рік тому

    Ah yes, that mythical creature, the "Turask"

  • @just_unnamed
    @just_unnamed Рік тому

    To celebrate the dnd movie wizards of the coast made their own DnD movie

  • @nightbane727
    @nightbane727 Рік тому +1

    the bentros are the best tbh

  • @Oppilonus
    @Oppilonus Рік тому

    Tbf, I would watch you guys play D&D..

  • @burningpapersun1
    @burningpapersun1 4 місяці тому

    I can't believe the tarrasque doesn't have trample.

  • @behemoth9543
    @behemoth9543 Рік тому +1

    Having cards that only exist as secret lairs be playable in any format just feels wrong. Like, print the card in a normal set and then just give it a different name and art but don´t make mechanics dependent on buying a Secret Lair.

    • @voltcorp
      @voltcorp Рік тому +2

      well they do come out in regular sets in a couple months, and if you're playing casual you can just proxy them

    • @MM-lv7iy
      @MM-lv7iy Рік тому +1

      The Walking Dead shambles by…

  • @MaximumDoog
    @MaximumDoog Рік тому

    Ben intros are the best lol

  • @mapleheaf7648
    @mapleheaf7648 Рік тому

    Ben is the best! More Ben intros!

  • @yannpoupard4059
    @yannpoupard4059 Рік тому

    Edgin was very useful in the movie, their is no movie without him literaly

  • @justblay2125
    @justblay2125 Рік тому

    Darn pro creatures, heroic intervention would have made shays commander a perfect blocker

  • @stevendefeo8424
    @stevendefeo8424 Рік тому

    Scooping at instant speed. Let’s not be a little you know what.

  • @Squirrel42300
    @Squirrel42300 Рік тому

    Off screen CGB beat the FUCK outta the crew for not watching the movie

  • @jamesramey4050
    @jamesramey4050 10 місяців тому

    Think I need to make a big fat dragon deck

  • @thefinalboss4471
    @thefinalboss4471 11 місяців тому

    Forge defeats D&D Godzilla with the power of money

  • @hanschristopherson8056
    @hanschristopherson8056 Рік тому

    Cgb not playing blue what is this?

  • @lukeemery9519
    @lukeemery9519 Рік тому +1

    I swear, everyone gangs up on blake all the time

  • @prinnyEXE
    @prinnyEXE Рік тому +3

    Lol ben is hilarious

  • @DiscGolf4JESUS
    @DiscGolf4JESUS Рік тому

    Shea showing the boys what's up, noice. 😎

  • @Aelyro
    @Aelyro Рік тому +2

    Poor Blake

  • @hendrikgohlisch9303
    @hendrikgohlisch9303 Рік тому

    This was awesome 😂

  • @MattTorres
    @MattTorres Рік тому

    Wait, have I ever seen Blake without a hat?

  • @SimonDLCruz
    @SimonDLCruz Рік тому

    Even before, Ben is my favorite 😊

  • @cipriano3246
    @cipriano3246 Рік тому

    The be(a)st shea way of smashing :p

  • @alexbudnik7004
    @alexbudnik7004 Рік тому

    CGB us is Stan confirmed

  • @SeanLarsDogma
    @SeanLarsDogma Рік тому

    More Ben please!

  • @NicksLotus
    @NicksLotus Рік тому

    Love it , these looked "fun" to play 😅

  • @ElricDrake
    @ElricDrake Рік тому

    Please let Ben host every show.