I know it might not matter but magic players would assume u can exceed the lvls required to make a synchro monster such as if it's a lvl 9 and I use a lvl 3 and a lvl 7 to make it , fyi I play both, even if u think the clarification isn't necessary u could remember this if u want ot trick someone
As I have said before, Yugioh is the opposite of other card games, there is no external resource like mana, it is super fast, lots of essay text, but in exchange, people who learn yugioh have an easier time learning other card games, I learned the basics of the pokemon tcg in just 1 hour since basic yugioh was much more complicated.
I can agree there. Yugioh is great prep for other games because, due to a lack of a management resource like mana, you have to map out your plays around what the opponent can have to stop you. It's the same in other games, but you get the added benefit of being able to narrow down the range of plays the opponent can make based on how much mana they have. Makes it much easier.
@@obadijahparks*Latin. English only really helps with germanic languages and even there it's not great. Latin helps with all the Romanic languages; Spanish, Italian, French, Romanian. Englidh helps you get around because most people know English but you could just learn Mandarin or Spanish for that benefit.
I learn to play MTG arena in like 2 hours, Yugioh had prep me so much, the only thing i need to wrap my head around is the block system and manage finite resources each turn. Otherwise everything is pretty straightforward, archetype had clear game plans and very easy to understand, remind me the early day of yugioh tcg.
@@nigerianprinceajaniSpanish is spoken by less than 7% of people, Mandarin is useful in exactly one country (that is becoming increasingly fond of not letting people in or out, and everyone actively wants to reduce business with) Meanwhile English is spoken by over 15%, and in a variety of places that are actually interconnected.
Herald of orange light is much closer to the blue magic spell, that costs 5 mana and can also be played by discarding a blue card and taking one damage. Magic players should know that card.
I like that you gave them a boss monster from a random archetype. One of the biggest troll you could make is giving them a card that would be utterly busted in any other deck but belongs to a garbage archetype (like Telefon, non-OPT reborn is insane but it's a Morphtronic)
I wouldn't throw in too many "hail mary" ones cos they can be frustrating on occasion, but Telefon specifically is hilarious because its a reading check on whether people can notice the lack of a OPT clause.@@TheOneJameYT
@@TheOneJameYT Ooh, maybe you can mix it up by giving them a boss monster that is garbage in its own archetype but busted outside of it (Trishula, Dragoon, etc.)
I think you should clarify the criteria you’re using to judge cards. I think a better option is to ask whether the card has ever been meta, and also mention its release year. It gets really difficult for the contestants to judge cards without that type of context, because you might run into scenarios where you bring up an old card like mirror force which saw meta play for over a decade and say it’s good, but then show an objectively more powerful card that never saw play due to it being much newer
I agree, and I might do that for upcoming videos. Asking if a card has ever been good is an entirely different question than “it is good or bad right now” lol
Mist Wurm also found very limited use in some older Speedroid builds because it is a non-destruction removal option working under the WIND monster restriction.
One category of cards you should try to include are ones with similar effects to real Magic cards but, because of the differences in game mechanics, have considerably different power levels between the two games. Stuff like Book of Moon, Change of Heart, or Mass Driver.
@@TheOneJameYT Translation [Floodgate] "Your opponent can not play the game if this card is on the field before they do anything." - Unless they have a specific out that is not a monster effect that activates.
Haven't played YGO since somewhere during the synchro era, and I'm mainly a Commander player in Magic. My evaluation of it was that Inspector Boarder is a meta call. Super niche, and only certain decks will want to play it, but very good when it's needed.
Little nitpick about this series, non-staples should probably be picked less often. ABC Buster Dragon, Inspector and the Speedroid are arguably decent to important cards in their own decks, but their decks are bad to mid. It makes it confusing for the contestant to interpret and for you to explain, as calling them aither bad or good isn't entirely correct (though it's fair game if the chosen card is bad even in its own archetype, or the whole archetype is garbage). Suggestions : Linkross, Number 95, Lavalval Chain, Branded Expulsion, Called by the grave, Simul Archfiends, Lullaby of obedience, Sales ban, Five-Headed Link Dragon, Bonze Alone
@@FabiSub96 it hasn’t been played in years, and when it was played it was only in 1 deck for the most part (and that deck wasn’t very good in the meta)
Synchro is not Music. It is Science. Synchronize was taught in Physic Science, synchronizing from adding electrons more or less to change the Element type (the Periodic Table of Elements).
@@TheOneJameYT of course no doubt. Trish is a much better card, however in modern Edison tournaments Mist Wurm sees a good amount of usage in decks that can make it. It’s not a card that comes out every game, but it has shown itself to be a strong extra deck staple due to modern innovations in the format.
Witche's Strike is a classic noob trap card. Also "Draw" cards like Magical Mallet. Similarly, Dark Bribe. Stong effect but that draw is risky. Huge Revolution (and the 3 vanillas it needs) is funny. Mystical Refpanel is confusing on what it even works against. One of my favorite cards, Gren Maju seems like it would be hard to peg. I use him a lot on Master Duel though.
Gren Maju is pretty easy to peg, it's just a 1/1 trample that gains 1/1 for every card in exile. It's going to be a tiny and expensive card most of the time but if there's a deck that can mass exile cards from the decks, graves and field you already know which card is going to be a boss monster in that deck.
Mallet isn't terrible to be fair. I mean it's only going to show up gimmicky decks, but it's not theoretically useless. It's for Exodia. An inconsistent flavor of it at that.
I was not ready to see one of my favourite synchros as the first card here. I can confirm, rider is very good in a speedroid deck but not really feasible to summon for other decks usually. Fun fact: terrortop can 1 card combo into clear wing rider plus a crystal wing synchro dragon so it's not really that resource intensive however there are many moving parts in the deck which can need a fair bit of memorization.
The sheer number of moving parts also makes it dangerously vulnerable to disruption... poor Speedroids, they do cool shit but just don't have the stuff to Make It at the top.... still doing far better than the rest of the -roids, poor Vehicroids
@@ethanhopper2467If 80% of mtg conterspells also said "destroy" and "or effect" in the card text you wouldn't be saying that. Imagine a year ago in the naya creature spam decks if you could just counter the trigger of some 1/1counter spam card and also spot remove it?
Even considering them thinking of it like a Stifle, the destroy at the end of Orange Light effectively DOES make it like Force of Will since every thing is a spell in MTG, and thus, never has a chance for any ETB effects to go off.
If the description of the cards isn't scripted, that's one thing that definitely should be. I feel like explanations get confusing because they're done on the fly instead of having a prethought out explanation.
@TheOneJameYT I mean when describing how specific mechanics work as well as the comparison to an MTG card. Like If you plan on showing someone some examples for after they guess. Imo something like Force of Will seems close enough to Herald of Orange Light to get across how good it was in decks that could pay the cost of discarding a fairy to "counter" something. Love this series btw!
kinda wished you gave the context behind ABC that some people were jamming the Ojama Brothers in their decks for Ojamassimilation and Ojamagic. also, i lowkey wanna see an MtG Player try to assess how good Sunseed Genius Loci is with zero context.
If you ask me, the reason Trishula is more powerful is because her effect doesn't target anything. However, more and more, the banished zone being the "It's GONE FOR GOOD" zone is so lost, it might as well be your third hand. Shuffling cards, especially big boss monsters that took a lot to summon, back into the deck is a much more devastating blow. Because way fewer cards benefit from being shuffled pre-maturely, it's practically one of the few ways to completely eject a monster from the game. ................Even if more one card combos keep rolling. So what's Mist Wurm's problem? It targets cards. Against cards that cannot be targeted, Mist Wurm can not do anything to them because it can't target them. Trishula doesn't have that problem.
I really like these videos, but i think you should clarify in the beginning if the guessers are supposed to guess if the card is good in modern Yugioh or back when the card came out. Because with the ABC-thing, I would have said the card isn't good, which would be true for modern Yugioh, but I would not have gotten a point because I didnt know what you were asking for. In my opinion the guessers should guess if the card is good in modern Yugioh, because if they have to guess if the card was good when it came out, they don't even know when the card came out. Another problem is that two cards, where one is way better than the other and would still see play in modern Yugioh, whereas the other one was good 10 years ago, might both be classified as "good", because they were both good when they came out.
I see where you’re coming from, and I did mention that ABC Dragon Buster was meta defining, but right now it’s a little power-crept. I gave Mia the point for it because it is still a good card in current Yugioh, and was still in a competitive deck as recent as 6 months ago with the Therions. Thanks for the feedback!
I don't know if it's truly the 1996 production run or such, but both my brother and I have a duel disk that we've had since the early 2000s, and it looks like that model. We had some fun memories screwing around with them... and learning just how inconvenient it is playing 10 feet apart. So mad when a mover bent one of them.
Fluffal/frightfur uses herald of orange light despite being a hard going second deck, it's not the best deck but it's very fun and can be really strong, randomly tops events
I cant believe the lad said that abc dragon buster was mid This deck was meta defining and actually helped me get my first worlds championship celebration win back in 2016(damn im old)
@@TheOneJameYT I'm actually in the process of building abc again even tho my locals in the uk is stupidly competitive it would be fun with all of new engines to see what I can do with it
it's the first time i hear the no mana in yugioh argument used this missunderstandignly as mist worm. things are free, kinda, not really, it's complicated when it's a monster. just how the game works makes returning stuff to the hand even if they could play it out back for free somehow makes it a good effect
Okay, hear me out, I got a "fun" idea for future videos. What if the last card you provide is a "lightning round", in which you will only not answer anything about the card text and only 1 minute or so to guess how good that card is. Card can be use is confusing card like boarder or snoww, the dark world monster or something funny like ipiria, yata-garasu
Yea, Herald of Orange Light looks like such a bad card. Like, imagine if a Magic card said something like "You may exile a blue card from your hand rather than pay this spell's mana cost. Counter target spell." I'm totally with you Beezy, that card would definitely be unplayable garbage
@@TheOneJameYT Maybe show some of the legacy support fusion cards to see if anyone who has played before recognizes what's now an archetype. Might be interesting if they could guess if cards like Chaos Max Dragon and Red Eyes Dragoon are good or not.
Just found you bro I love the content, not tryna be an ass but it’s refreshing to find someone else who likes YuGiOh and isn’t a complete dweeb, keep up the good work 😊
Tbh I think you underrated ABC-Dragon Buster. Due to Link Summoning you can easily generate ressources on the field/hand with the A/B/C pieces and then summon ABC-Dragon Buster on top of all that. Especially since the introduction of Union Drive and Unauthorized Reactivation. Its pretty easy to make a ABC-Dragon Buster and IB:Masqauerena and then on your opponents turn after banishing something with ABC-Dragon Buster to make a 4 Material/Negate Appolousa that can not be destroyed by card effects while also generating card advantage by yet again making the pieces leave the field for the Link Summon. Also Therion "King" Regulus is not only easy to summon in ABC but also lets the equiped A/B/C piece to tag out as Material! If A/B/C are equiped to ABC-Dragon Buster they offer full immunity against opponents Monster/Spell/Trap effects on top of making ABC-Dragon Buster avoid a single destruction by card effects/battle. Last but not least if chained correctly ABC- Dragon Buster can play around targeting card effects, Torrential Tribute and Skill Drain.
All of those things are what’s good about the card, but it doesn’t see much play anymore since it’s a little power crept compared to the decks nowadays!
Probably would have given Inspector Boarder a rating much closer to good than bad personally but entertaining as always. Inspector Boarder, unfortunately, saw quite a bit of competitive play at the highest levels when Eldlich was top tier. Still a stun staple but it's definitely not too meta relevant now. But, there was that window of time where Eldlich stun was a top tier deck playing 5 monsters, 2 Lich and 3 Boarder
"Inspector Boarder is completely garbage" Meanwhile in master duel stun decks with Inspector Boarder/ Dynosaur that i cant remember the name of, are wrecking face.
I'm going to assume Herald of Orange Light is busted because you just watch your opponent spend 20 minutes playing 30 cards to special summon a super OP monster on turn 1 and then you just immediately cancel its effect and destroy it, then they concede. You can probably also use a card that benefits from getting sent to the graveyard so the cost isn't even a cost. Yup, I was right.
13:10 While technically true, it's amazing how next to nobody points out that Xyz DOES have a mana/resource system. Since for the vast majority of monsters only go a limited amount of ammo to use their effects. Even many of today's better Xyz monsters are held back by this, and thank god. I think I'd quit YuGiOh if Utopia - any of them- naturally can activate their busted effects without costing material.
Watching these and other similar videos from different channels, I’m learning how to judge yugioh cards by osmosis basically. It’s such wildly different game to Magic, I don’t really understand the appeal honestly. Fun to watch though
I've noticed that the vast majority of people who come on the show have stopping points before the last ~8 years or so, if they ever even played. I think it'd be really cool if for people who had a stopping point before a card got really good - like if someone stopped during the ancient gear limiter era and had no idea that right after that there was a gadget stun anti-meta deck and much later gadgets became broken - to include a card that was kinda mid during their time playing. Or conversely, if a card was SUPER broken when they were playing but got real mid due to meta shift and power creep, like for example I think around 8-10 years ago there was this Shooting Quasar Dragon engine or something but now it's just not worth Also, I think it's kinda wild that you've never showed Dracossack or any of the dragon rulers during one of these.
I haven’t shown dragon rulers because I think they’re too obviously good and I want to give the guests a challenge lol. Dracossack is a good one to give them though!
@@TheOneJameYT I think they are but as standalone units without context they can seem kinda... decent, rather than straight up broken but of course, I think it's always better value to pick out those cards that will cause your participants to have a big swing either way and you can be like "actually, this card is banned", or "actually it's unplayable"
Hmm, Idk, for things like this, i think using cards that's deemed as bad simply because another better card in the same specific format (e.g. Trishula in this video) existed (that's not known for these MTG players), is just too weird. They can't possibly guess that kind of reasoning.
@TheOneJameYT lol fair I just watched your ycs memphis list, I don't envy you cause some cards are just hard to judge without context but sometimes the context gives it away. Maybe showing them the best cards out of top decks from the last 5 years would be cool. Or maybe if you re-invite someone show them whole deck list and have them guess how powerful the deck is could be cool
Obviously ABC Dragon Buster Reads pretty crazy Removal at instant speed for 1 discard and if it's ever threatened it just tags out? I'm surprised ABC needing 3 specific monsters to be summoned didn't cause then to get suspicious since in any TCG super broken monsters that require finding specific cards to get into rotation before they cam come out is always a red flag.
Haha I know, it wasn’t as obvious that the card was good because the cost of finding all those pieces seems too steep if you don’t already know that Union Hangar exists
Hot take I guess, but I've been playing both games for like 25 years, and everybody talks about mana and land making magic more restrictive, but I've always found the existence of card zones to make yu-gi-oh the way more restrictive game.
@@TheOneJameYT haha i definitely did. Mia did such a good job evaluating card. Although, explaining yugioh cards in mtg terms is tough and kind of a challenge in its own way.
Herald of Orange Light is probably like... Staple. Maybe even limited to 1 copy. I don't think it's banned. But it is a hand trap that stops your opponent's special summon effect monster combos dead in the water by discarding which is like nothing in YGO right? That has to be good, right? I'm going with strong staple.
main issue is... what deck can even use it since it has to discard a fairy alongside itself and there really isnt many decks that plays fairy type monsters or enough of them that they would want to keep in reserve for orange light's effect
@@YukiFubuki. IshTear played Orange light card as both disruption and as a way to immediately send the Ishizu cards to grave. Prior to that, this was always in Drytron decks before Eva was banned since it has a lot of little things that the deck really wants in a monster. It's even seeing play right now in Melodious since we're in a hand-trap heavy meta right now and Melodious is the only meta deck that can uniquely play Orange light as an extra hand trap.
@@waves5249 yeah but overall there is incredibly few decks that can actually make use of it, its strong of it can be used but its undoubtedly a handtrap that is rarely seen and more or less engine dependent if it isnt in a deck of actual fairies
Please try to decrease the amount of extra deck monsters in this series. Lacking context and having to go through a lot of words just to be physically not capable of making an educated guess isn't a good way to approach the guessing game concept. Boss monsters are important in yugioh but maybe you can show 2010-2014 ones to make it comprehensible for people who have not touched ygo. They can judge if they've been good at the time of release. Archetypal cards in general are impossible to guess without the archetype context. Keep the series up these are hard to get quite right!
I think extra deck cards are important to put in the series in general because it's such a fundamental aspect of current yugioh, but you're right in that I could tailor those to be from 10ish years ago. Thanks for enjoying the series!
@@TheOneJameYTprob just use generically good extra deck monsters or ones that arent dependent on some sort of interaction with main deck monsters would work
It can just straight up shut down decks if they go first and summon this and with its statline it's hard to beat over since 2k is around the highest atk stat a normal summonable monster can have. Most decks do run some type of non engine to get over difficult to out boards so it isn't unbeatable. It is strong but moreso on the annoying than banworthy side since it isn't searchable and only really shuts down stuff going first
First: but let's hope he rates these all on the same criteria this time: not sometimes if they're good now and sometimes if they were good in the distant past.
@@TheOneJameYTThat or some of the other Dragunity Synchros like Barcha, Gae Dearg or Ascalon. Gae Dearg literally reads win the game I fucking love it.
If I didn’t show extra deck monsters every now and then, I feel like the videos wouldn’t be as true to Yugioh as they could be. The extra deck is such an important part of the game.
There is something unfair with the judging in these videos. You show them a good card or a card that used to be good, but than you tell them that the card is bad because there is a beter card (like with the mist wurm card) or they have been power crept out. Just because there is something beter doesn't mean the card is bad, and these ppl don't have knowledge of the game so they can't compare if they don't know. They only know what you are putting in front of them.
That's the whole point of the video, to see if people can use their general card game knowledge to their best ability to try to get some cards right in an entertaining way, but also gain knowledge of the game. Them being wrong isn't supposed to be a bad thing, it's meant to teach them more about the game in a fun engaging way!
You're right except mist wurm is your example? Why not something like mirror force that saw play for 20 years? Only lefy because every deck was getting S/t destruction through monster effects and twin twisters came out. Nowadays, nobody plays mst or twisters and some people play cyclone to hate Eldlich.
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I know it might not matter but magic players would assume u can exceed the lvls required to make a synchro monster such as if it's a lvl 9 and I use a lvl 3 and a lvl 7 to make it , fyi I play both, even if u think the clarification isn't necessary u could remember this if u want ot trick someone
As I have said before, Yugioh is the opposite of other card games, there is no external resource like mana, it is super fast, lots of essay text, but in exchange, people who learn yugioh have an easier time learning other card games, I learned the basics of the pokemon tcg in just 1 hour since basic yugioh was much more complicated.
I can agree there. Yugioh is great prep for other games because, due to a lack of a management resource like mana, you have to map out your plays around what the opponent can have to stop you. It's the same in other games, but you get the added benefit of being able to narrow down the range of plays the opponent can make based on how much mana they have. Makes it much easier.
Like starting out with English....
@@obadijahparks*Latin. English only really helps with germanic languages and even there it's not great.
Latin helps with all the Romanic languages; Spanish, Italian, French, Romanian.
Englidh helps you get around because most people know English but you could just learn Mandarin or Spanish for that benefit.
I learn to play MTG arena in like 2 hours, Yugioh had prep me so much, the only thing i need to wrap my head around is the block system and manage finite resources each turn. Otherwise everything is pretty straightforward, archetype had clear game plans and very easy to understand, remind me the early day of yugioh tcg.
@@nigerianprinceajaniSpanish is spoken by less than 7% of people, Mandarin is useful in exactly one country (that is becoming increasingly fond of not letting people in or out, and everyone actively wants to reduce business with)
Meanwhile English is spoken by over 15%, and in a variety of places that are actually interconnected.
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Herald of orange light is much closer to the blue magic spell, that costs 5 mana and can also be played by discarding a blue card and taking one damage.
Magic players should know that card.
Yea I should've thought to mention Force of Will when explaining it!
More Like force of Negation with all the restrictions than IT IS Like force of will ;)
@@michaschulz5182 true lol
More like disrupting shoal
I like that you gave them a boss monster from a random archetype. One of the biggest troll you could make is giving them a card that would be utterly busted in any other deck but belongs to a garbage archetype (like Telefon, non-OPT reborn is insane but it's a Morphtronic)
Maybe I'll start doing one of those in each video
I wouldn't throw in too many "hail mary" ones cos they can be frustrating on occasion, but Telefon specifically is hilarious because its a reading check on whether people can notice the lack of a OPT clause.@@TheOneJameYT
@@VideoGaku123 yea that was an interesting part of the video right before this one on the channel when TheAsianAvenger is rating Cannon Soldier 😅
@@TheOneJameYT Ooh, maybe you can mix it up by giving them a boss monster that is garbage in its own archetype but busted outside of it (Trishula, Dragoon, etc.)
@@RSFArocks yea and maybe Isolde!
I think you should clarify the criteria you’re using to judge cards. I think a better option is to ask whether the card has ever been meta, and also mention its release year. It gets really difficult for the contestants to judge cards without that type of context, because you might run into scenarios where you bring up an old card like mirror force which saw meta play for over a decade and say it’s good, but then show an objectively more powerful card that never saw play due to it being much newer
I agree, and I might do that for upcoming videos. Asking if a card has ever been good is an entirely different question than “it is good or bad right now” lol
@@TheOneJameYT yeah saying abc dragon buster is medium is correct now so that was a weird segment
i think that the funniest thing about orange light is that its most powerful use was being used to pitch ishizu fairies during the opponents turn
That was so strong 😅
Beezy's final analysis of inspector boarder was almost spot on imo, except it's not banned, only limited in master duel
Mist Wurm also found very limited use in some older Speedroid builds because it is a non-destruction removal option working under the WIND monster restriction.
True!
Okay, I genuinely liked this one! They analyzed extra deck monsters as a duo, and even learned extra deck mechanics together
I love that they both worked together but also played against each other lmao
One category of cards you should try to include are ones with similar effects to real Magic cards but, because of the differences in game mechanics, have considerably different power levels between the two games. Stuff like Book of Moon, Change of Heart, or Mass Driver.
Yea I like that idea!
Inspector boarder is super confusing even for seasoned yugioh players.
Yea that's the funny part! (I only did this to them because we're friends and it's hilarious)
@@TheOneJameYT Translation [Floodgate] "Your opponent can not play the game if this card is on the field before they do anything." - Unless they have a specific out that is not a monster effect that activates.
@@acetraker1988 or if they run Pendulums, or Normal Summon into a link 1
Haven't played YGO since somewhere during the synchro era, and I'm mainly a Commander player in Magic. My evaluation of it was that Inspector Boarder is a meta call. Super niche, and only certain decks will want to play it, but very good when it's needed.
Little nitpick about this series, non-staples should probably be picked less often. ABC Buster Dragon, Inspector and the Speedroid are arguably decent to important cards in their own decks, but their decks are bad to mid. It makes it confusing for the contestant to interpret and for you to explain, as calling them aither bad or good isn't entirely correct (though it's fair game if the chosen card is bad even in its own archetype, or the whole archetype is garbage).
Suggestions : Linkross, Number 95, Lavalval Chain, Branded Expulsion, Called by the grave, Simul Archfiends, Lullaby of obedience, Sales ban, Five-Headed Link Dragon, Bonze Alone
I will use some of those suggestions for sure, and I’ve actually already used Lullaby in a Short. thanks for the feedback!
Abc un mal deck? Anda a tomar por saco, no idea tienes
Inspektor Border is insane . Everyone hates this Card because is a Instant win or Instant lose Card.
Exactly! Which is why I chose it :)
@@TheOneJameYT Then you are a true Yu-Gi-Oh Gamer 😅
When my opponent dont have fun you truly understand Yu-Gi-Oh 🙈
PS : i Play a stun Deck 👀
@@TheOneJameYT Don't say that the card is bad then?
@@derlotze7703 haha only a stun player would say that 🤣
@@FabiSub96 it hasn’t been played in years, and when it was played it was only in 1 deck for the most part (and that deck wasn’t very good in the meta)
Synchro is not Music. It is Science. Synchronize was taught in Physic Science, synchronizing from adding electrons more or less to change the Element type (the Periodic Table of Elements).
I am pretty sure Mist Wurm sees a lot of play in Edison Format. It might be the only synchro 9 in the format, if I remember correctly.
I think it is, but it's used pretty sparingly from what I remember. Then Trishula came out and squandered all of its play lol
@@TheOneJameYT of course no doubt. Trish is a much better card, however in modern Edison tournaments Mist Wurm sees a good amount of usage in decks that can make it. It’s not a card that comes out every game, but it has shown itself to be a strong extra deck staple due to modern innovations in the format.
@@angelo9024 I wanted mist wurm to be super good so badly but it was never quite as good as I’d hoped. Happy it was played in Edison tho
Witche's Strike is a classic noob trap card. Also "Draw" cards like Magical Mallet.
Similarly, Dark Bribe. Stong effect but that draw is risky.
Huge Revolution (and the 3 vanillas it needs) is funny.
Mystical Refpanel is confusing on what it even works against.
One of my favorite cards, Gren Maju seems like it would be hard to peg. I use him a lot on Master Duel though.
Those are all good ones! I've already used Witch's Strike in a video but the other ones are interesting to do
Gren Maju is pretty easy to peg, it's just a 1/1 trample that gains 1/1 for every card in exile.
It's going to be a tiny and expensive card most of the time but if there's a deck that can mass exile cards from the decks, graves and field you already know which card is going to be a boss monster in that deck.
Mallet isn't terrible to be fair.
I mean it's only going to show up gimmicky decks, but it's not theoretically useless.
It's for Exodia. An inconsistent flavor of it at that.
I was not ready to see one of my favourite synchros as the first card here. I can confirm, rider is very good in a speedroid deck but not really feasible to summon for other decks usually. Fun fact: terrortop can 1 card combo into clear wing rider plus a crystal wing synchro dragon so it's not really that resource intensive however there are many moving parts in the deck which can need a fair bit of memorization.
I wish it was feasible!
@@TheOneJameYT but then there would be one less reason to play speedroids :(
The sheer number of moving parts also makes it dangerously vulnerable to disruption... poor Speedroids, they do cool shit but just don't have the stuff to Make It at the top.... still doing far better than the rest of the -roids, poor Vehicroids
I'd love to see an MTG player's interpretation of Supreme King Z-ARC lol
Sounds like it would be a mean one but then again I gave them Inspector Boarder lol
Any card from the zarchetype is silly complicated. Also Endymion mighty master...
@@TheOneJameYT silent wobby would be funny but maybe its a bit too obvious
@@TheOneJameYTIC1000 would be pretty funny lol
0:40 "I see 11 Balls"
Nikachu: write that down. Write that down
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I don't understand how any MTG player can look at a Force of Will type effect and say "bad"
Haha I know right, especially one stapled to a really high-powered monster.
Yeah the heralds are literally Force of Will on wings since they also require you to give up another card from your hand.
They likely thought of it more like a Stifle effect. Negating an effect of a creature in MTG is actually pretty terrible
@@ethanhopper2467If 80% of mtg conterspells also said "destroy" and "or effect" in the card text you wouldn't be saying that.
Imagine a year ago in the naya creature spam decks if you could just counter the trigger of some 1/1counter spam card and also spot remove it?
Even considering them thinking of it like a Stifle, the destroy at the end of Orange Light effectively DOES make it like Force of Will since every thing is a spell in MTG, and thus, never has a chance for any ETB effects to go off.
If the description of the cards isn't scripted, that's one thing that definitely should be. I feel like explanations get confusing because they're done on the fly instead of having a prethought out explanation.
Are you talking about describing them after they analyze each card?
@TheOneJameYT I mean when describing how specific mechanics work as well as the comparison to an MTG card. Like If you plan on showing someone some examples for after they guess. Imo something like Force of Will seems close enough to Herald of Orange Light to get across how good it was in decks that could pay the cost of discarding a fairy to "counter" something. Love this series btw!
@@felixrodriguez5050 yea I should’ve mentioned that card!! Thanks, glad you’re enjoying the series
Beezy if grasping for straws was a sport he would be a world champ.
hahahaha
kinda wished you gave the context behind ABC that some people were jamming the Ojama Brothers in their decks for Ojamassimilation and Ojamagic. also, i lowkey wanna see an MtG Player try to assess how good Sunseed Genius Loci is with zero context.
That’s the biggest trick question of them all lol
If you ask me, the reason Trishula is more powerful is because her effect doesn't target anything. However, more and more, the banished zone being the "It's GONE FOR GOOD" zone is so lost, it might as well be your third hand. Shuffling cards, especially big boss monsters that took a lot to summon, back into the deck is a much more devastating blow. Because way fewer cards benefit from being shuffled pre-maturely, it's practically one of the few ways to completely eject a monster from the game. ................Even if more one card combos keep rolling.
So what's Mist Wurm's problem? It targets cards. Against cards that cannot be targeted, Mist Wurm can not do anything to them because it can't target them. Trishula doesn't have that problem.
I really like these videos, but i think you should clarify in the beginning if the guessers are supposed to guess if the card is good in modern Yugioh or back when the card came out.
Because with the ABC-thing, I would have said the card isn't good, which would be true for modern Yugioh, but I would not have gotten a point because I didnt know what you were asking for.
In my opinion the guessers should guess if the card is good in modern Yugioh, because if they have to guess if the card was good when it came out, they don't even know when the card came out. Another problem is that two cards, where one is way better than the other and would still see play in modern Yugioh, whereas the other one was good 10 years ago, might both be classified as "good", because they were both good when they came out.
I see where you’re coming from, and I did mention that ABC Dragon Buster was meta defining, but right now it’s a little power-crept. I gave Mia the point for it because it is still a good card in current Yugioh, and was still in a competitive deck as recent as 6 months ago with the Therions. Thanks for the feedback!
Abc sigue siendo bueno hoy en día...
@@prototipolq-84i46 it’s pretty good but not tier 1!
I don't know if it's truly the 1996 production run or such, but both my brother and I have a duel disk that we've had since the early 2000s, and it looks like that model. We had some fun memories screwing around with them... and learning just how inconvenient it is playing 10 feet apart. So mad when a mover bent one of them.
Those were such fun days 😅
I had a duel disk back in 2003. I have not the slightest clue where it ended up.
When i asked Mia to get it, she knew exactly where it was 🤣
Fluffal/frightfur uses herald of orange light despite being a hard going second deck, it's not the best deck but it's very fun and can be really strong, randomly tops events
0:31 as a speedroid player this is the best ranking yugioh cards video ever
also clear wing rider is sadly only playable if you have no better options for extra deck monsters
Happy to hear!!
Tbh Inspector Boarder should just be interpreted. The guessing is about how good the cards are, not how fucked up the text is lol
I know, I did it because it's funny and to see if they could actually analyze it, and Mia was awesome!
@@TheOneJameYT yeah I could kind of tell you were having fun watch them trying to navigate what this card does. Most reread card in all of YGO
I still dont know what Inspector border do lol. even after reading it 100 times. I just kaiju it
Haha who needs to know what it does if it’s not on the board anymore!
I loved Toadaly Awesome just fading in and out
I had to do it 😅
Next times final boss: Linear Equation Cannon lol
I should show them that one 🤣
I cant believe the lad said that abc dragon buster was mid
This deck was meta defining and actually helped me get my first worlds championship celebration win back in 2016(damn im old)
Yea I think he did it to say something different than Mia 😅
@@TheOneJameYT I'm actually in the process of building abc again even tho my locals in the uk is stupidly competitive it would be fun with all of new engines to see what I can do with it
@@Gamemyster1991 yea I’m curious to see what it can do now
@@TheOneJameYT I have it on master duel but that is a completely different format
And master duel has only recently gotten kashtira
it's the first time i hear the no mana in yugioh argument used this missunderstandignly as mist worm. things are free, kinda, not really, it's complicated when it's a monster. just how the game works makes returning stuff to the hand even if they could play it out back for free somehow makes it a good effect
Okay, hear me out, I got a "fun" idea for future videos. What if the last card you provide is a "lightning round", in which you will only not answer anything about the card text and only 1 minute or so to guess how good that card is. Card can be use is confusing card like boarder or snoww, the dark world monster or something funny like ipiria, yata-garasu
That sounds so mean but I like it
Yea, Herald of Orange Light looks like such a bad card. Like, imagine if a Magic card said something like "You may exile a blue card from your hand rather than pay this spell's mana cost. Counter target spell." I'm totally with you Beezy, that card would definitely be unplayable garbage
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I wonder how they'd react to Archetypal fusion spells give the base function with additional or alternate effects.
I wonder the same thing. I may give someone a card like that in the future.
@@TheOneJameYT Maybe show some of the legacy support fusion cards to see if anyone who has played before recognizes what's now an archetype. Might be interesting if they could guess if cards like Chaos Max Dragon and Red Eyes Dragoon are good or not.
Herald of Orange Light is kinda like Solitude with flash except it destroys instead of banishing.
Yep!
Just found you bro I love the content, not tryna be an ass but it’s refreshing to find someone else who likes YuGiOh and isn’t a complete dweeb, keep up the good work 😊
Thanks Joe!! More coming also 😎
The nitpickingnerds are awesome! Great episode
I agree!! More content is coming with them soon
Mist wurm is trisula at home lol
You’re not wrong lol
Tbh I think you underrated ABC-Dragon Buster.
Due to Link Summoning you can easily generate ressources on the field/hand with the A/B/C pieces and then summon ABC-Dragon Buster on top of all that.
Especially since the introduction of Union Drive and Unauthorized Reactivation.
Its pretty easy to make a ABC-Dragon Buster and IB:Masqauerena and then on your opponents turn after banishing something with ABC-Dragon Buster to make a 4 Material/Negate Appolousa that can not be destroyed by card effects while also generating card advantage by yet again making the pieces leave the field for the Link Summon.
Also Therion "King" Regulus is not only easy to summon in ABC but also lets the equiped A/B/C piece to tag out as Material!
If A/B/C are equiped to ABC-Dragon Buster they offer full immunity against opponents Monster/Spell/Trap effects on top of making ABC-Dragon Buster avoid a single destruction by card effects/battle.
Last but not least if chained correctly ABC- Dragon Buster can play around targeting card effects, Torrential Tribute and Skill Drain.
All of those things are what’s good about the card, but it doesn’t see much play anymore since it’s a little power crept compared to the decks nowadays!
2:03 A feel like the words are supposed to mean something, but I don’t understand any of it. 😂
The extra deck is the Command Zone of yugioh!
i am very happy with this bike appearence
I knew you’d like it!
@@TheOneJameYT all thats left is for the switcheroo of ygo player rates magic cards lol
@@Shavaaa Jesse Kotton is next!
@@TheOneJameYT oooooh a legend!
To this day, i still play ABC almost exclusively. I just really like the feel of it.
It’s a good deck!
Probably would have given Inspector Boarder a rating much closer to good than bad personally but entertaining as always. Inspector Boarder, unfortunately, saw quite a bit of competitive play at the highest levels when Eldlich was top tier. Still a stun staple but it's definitely not too meta relevant now. But, there was that window of time where Eldlich stun was a top tier deck playing 5 monsters, 2 Lich and 3 Boarder
one of these days we gotta show the guests Endymion
That would be mean but I like it
"Inspector Boarder is completely garbage" Meanwhile in master duel stun decks with Inspector Boarder/ Dynosaur that i cant remember the name of, are wrecking face.
I’m not sure about the master duel meta, since I played competitively in the TCG
@@TheOneJameYT Fair, its....not good. Its the wild west of random BS, between kashtira, stun, exodia, and Maxx C
I wish I still had my duel disk. I got an F on my report card one year, and my mom broke it in front of me.
Jesus christ that had to be traumatizing 😭
@TheOneJameYT very. I still hold a grudge about 15 years later.
I'm going to assume Herald of Orange Light is busted because you just watch your opponent spend 20 minutes playing 30 cards to special summon a super OP monster on turn 1 and then you just immediately cancel its effect and destroy it, then they concede. You can probably also use a card that benefits from getting sent to the graveyard so the cost isn't even a cost.
Yup, I was right.
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13:10 While technically true, it's amazing how next to nobody points out that Xyz DOES have a mana/resource system. Since for the vast majority of monsters only go a limited amount of ammo to use their effects. Even many of today's better Xyz monsters are held back by this, and thank god. I think I'd quit YuGiOh if Utopia - any of them- naturally can activate their busted effects without costing material.
Watching these and other similar videos from different channels, I’m learning how to judge yugioh cards by osmosis basically. It’s such wildly different game to Magic, I don’t really understand the appeal honestly. Fun to watch though
The appeal for yugioh is similar to the appeal for vintage. Do big fast things and win
7:58 Every Yugioh player ever not.
Haha reading the card NEVER explains the card. unless you already know problem solving card text
I've noticed that the vast majority of people who come on the show have stopping points before the last ~8 years or so, if they ever even played. I think it'd be really cool if for people who had a stopping point before a card got really good - like if someone stopped during the ancient gear limiter era and had no idea that right after that there was a gadget stun anti-meta deck and much later gadgets became broken - to include a card that was kinda mid during their time playing. Or conversely, if a card was SUPER broken when they were playing but got real mid due to meta shift and power creep, like for example I think around 8-10 years ago there was this Shooting Quasar Dragon engine or something but now it's just not worth
Also, I think it's kinda wild that you've never showed Dracossack or any of the dragon rulers during one of these.
I haven’t shown dragon rulers because I think they’re too obviously good and I want to give the guests a challenge lol. Dracossack is a good one to give them though!
@@TheOneJameYT I think they are but as standalone units without context they can seem kinda... decent, rather than straight up broken
but of course, I think it's always better value to pick out those cards that will cause your participants to have a big swing either way and you can be like "actually, this card is banned", or "actually it's unplayable"
@@a.v.y8331 yea that’s one thing I like about the video on this channel with Jim Davis. The swings were real 😂
Hmm, Idk, for things like this, i think using cards that's deemed as bad simply because another better card in the same specific format (e.g. Trishula in this video) existed (that's not known for these MTG players), is just too weird.
They can't possibly guess that kind of reasoning.
I understand that, but to a certain extent all cards are good/bad based on other cards in the game, so it's all contextual regardless.
"Hes so loud" "its part of my strategy" "its a sound strategy", when all three of you contribute to making a pun but are completely unaware lol.
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dude, her card eval is insane!
It really is!
The fact you havent shown a metalfoes or dracoslayer cards yet is a shame
I’m always taking suggestions!!
@TheOneJameYT lol fair I just watched your ycs memphis list, I don't envy you cause some cards are just hard to judge without context but sometimes the context gives it away. Maybe showing them the best cards out of top decks from the last 5 years would be cool. Or maybe if you re-invite someone show them whole deck list and have them guess how powerful the deck is could be cool
@@worm_9912 how did you find that video 🤣 not many people know that I’ve gotten 3rd at a YCS!
@@TheOneJameYT ua-cam.com/video/_a60ogbWn-k/v-deo.htmlsi=xWMwmIKjEDSEGY8A
Why are they using an xbox 360 mic?
Obviously ABC Dragon Buster Reads pretty crazy
Removal at instant speed for 1 discard and if it's ever threatened it just tags out?
I'm surprised ABC needing 3 specific monsters to be summoned didn't cause then to get suspicious since in any TCG super broken monsters that require finding specific cards to get into rotation before they cam come out is always a red flag.
Haha I know, it wasn’t as obvious that the card was good because the cost of finding all those pieces seems too steep if you don’t already know that Union Hangar exists
Hot take I guess, but I've been playing both games for like 25 years, and everybody talks about mana and land making magic more restrictive, but I've always found the existence of card zones to make yu-gi-oh the way more restrictive game.
I've never really heard it said like that but it really does make sense when you put it that way
Have you done Mighty Endymion yet? 👀 Or is that going too far.
It's a little mean but probably fun lol
7:32 no way didnt you mention herald of orange light discarding an ishizu card in tearlament...
Is that wrong, aren’t they fairies?
Put some respect on my boy Clear Wing Rider
RESPECT!
@@TheOneJameYT omg I did not expect you to actually respond! Neat. love the content and keep up the good work! :)
@@crystonlight5804 I try to respond to everyone I can. I appreciate the kind words!
Omg my favorite mtg creators. I can't wait!
Hope you enjoy!
@@TheOneJameYT haha i definitely did. Mia did such a good job evaluating card. Although, explaining yugioh cards in mtg terms is tough and kind of a challenge in its own way.
@@Dark563 yea it’s a challenge for sure!
Thanks for making me feel old by saying Mist Wurm is bad.
I feel old too 😅
Great calls this video when it comes to cards being good now.
Thanks!!
Herald of Orange Light is probably like... Staple. Maybe even limited to 1 copy. I don't think it's banned.
But it is a hand trap that stops your opponent's special summon effect monster combos dead in the water by discarding which is like nothing in YGO right? That has to be good, right? I'm going with strong staple.
main issue is... what deck can even use it since it has to discard a fairy alongside itself and there really isnt many decks that plays fairy type monsters or enough of them that they would want to keep in reserve for orange light's effect
@@YukiFubuki. IshTear played Orange light card as both disruption and as a way to immediately send the Ishizu cards to grave. Prior to that, this was always in Drytron decks before Eva was banned since it has a lot of little things that the deck really wants in a monster. It's even seeing play right now in Melodious since we're in a hand-trap heavy meta right now and Melodious is the only meta deck that can uniquely play Orange light as an extra hand trap.
@@waves5249 yeah but overall there is incredibly few decks that can actually make use of it, its strong of it can be used but its undoubtedly a handtrap that is rarely seen and more or less engine dependent if it isnt in a deck of actual fairies
Please try to decrease the amount of extra deck monsters in this series. Lacking context and having to go through a lot of words just to be physically not capable of making an educated guess isn't a good way to approach the guessing game concept. Boss monsters are important in yugioh but maybe you can show 2010-2014 ones to make it comprehensible for people who have not touched ygo. They can judge if they've been good at the time of release. Archetypal cards in general are impossible to guess without the archetype context. Keep the series up these are hard to get quite right!
I think extra deck cards are important to put in the series in general because it's such a fundamental aspect of current yugioh, but you're right in that I could tailor those to be from 10ish years ago. Thanks for enjoying the series!
@@TheOneJameYTprob just use generically good extra deck monsters or ones that arent dependent on some sort of interaction with main deck monsters would work
@@YukiFubuki. yea I should do some like that
Homie got shafted on the boarder
It was a mean card to give them 😅
Drytron for herald of orange light
Doesnt orange light have psct errata?
It’s not an errata of the actual effect, it’s just a re-wording to put it into PSCT.
Me over hear thinking that the last card was a busted stax piece and similar to grand abolisher in magic.
It’s a good stax piece but not busted!
*here lol not hear
It can just straight up shut down decks if they go first and summon this and with its statline it's hard to beat over since 2k is around the highest atk stat a normal summonable monster can have. Most decks do run some type of non engine to get over difficult to out boards so it isn't unbeatable.
It is strong but moreso on the annoying than banworthy side since it isn't searchable and only really shuts down stuff going first
@@TheOneJameYTThis is true but floodgates are quite effective in Yugioh.
First: but let's hope he rates these all on the same criteria this time: not sometimes if they're good now and sometimes if they were good in the distant past.
I think I do a better job in this video explaining what time period they were good in, and if they're good now. Thanks for the feedback!
@@TheOneJameYT Yeah, this one has a lot better job on that front. Good work! Fun to see these either way.
@@Charmander_R27 next one is with Jesse Kotton!
I want an MTG player to read Dragunity Knight - Areadbhair
I’ll think about that one!
@@TheOneJameYTThat or some of the other Dragunity Synchros like Barcha, Gae Dearg or Ascalon. Gae Dearg literally reads win the game I fucking love it.
Inspector boarder is evil
I made sure to tell them that after we recorded the video lol
I wish i had a 1996 duel disk
Same :(
Finding out Inspector Boarder is busted less than a month later because no one knows how to evaluate what a good card is on this channel
It’s a card very contextual to the format. Sometimes it’s broken, sometimes it’s unplayable.
I use to have a 1996 duel disk
I wish you still had it!!
Clear Wing Rider. WTF? Y No In Duel Links?
I don’t know!
I like that YGO players are more readily open towards MTG players while MTG players are so defensive about YGO. 😅
Wtf now the like button blinks when they mention it, youtube has gone too far
Yea it’s crazy right? I thought I was going nuts when I first saw that feature
good video but please don't show them Archetype and Extra Deck monsters, most of them aren't familiar to it and hard to explain
If I didn’t show extra deck monsters every now and then, I feel like the videos wouldn’t be as true to Yugioh as they could be. The extra deck is such an important part of the game.
Banger
Glad you enjoyed it!
F Rules i have cards!😂
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Inspector Boarder is bad? Whaaaaaat?
It’s medium! Really good or really bad, not much in between
@@TheOneJameYT But the premise of the show is good or bad. I don't think it's fair to give the point for "mid" to whoever said "bad"
@@Patadude100 i gave the point to Mia because she said it was medium which was correct! It can be good in some decks but not in most decks 😅
Mist Wurm was good, in Edison, lmfao.
And only in Edison lol
There is something unfair with the judging in these videos.
You show them a good card or a card that used to be good, but than you tell them that the card is bad because there is a beter card (like with the mist wurm card) or they have been power crept out. Just because there is something beter doesn't mean the card is bad, and these ppl don't have knowledge of the game so they can't compare if they don't know. They only know what you are putting in front of them.
That's the whole point of the video, to see if people can use their general card game knowledge to their best ability to try to get some cards right in an entertaining way, but also gain knowledge of the game. Them being wrong isn't supposed to be a bad thing, it's meant to teach them more about the game in a fun engaging way!
You're right except mist wurm is your example? Why not something like mirror force that saw play for 20 years? Only lefy because every deck was getting S/t destruction through monster effects and twin twisters came out.
Nowadays, nobody plays mst or twisters and some people play cyclone to hate Eldlich.
@@iBloodxHunter I’ve already used a mirror force card in a previous video and I want to give a good variety of cards
@@TheOneJameYT I was referrencing that video funny enough!
Dude read Force of will and called it garbage. Not a very good MTG player.
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Ftk Combos
yes
"turner"
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Yea that’s the new way to say it 😅
MUSIC RELATED!? SYNCHRO!? WHAT LOL!!! IT'S SYNCHRO ENGINE!!!!!!!gtfo fake fans /s
Jesus Christ 🤣🤣🤣
Its about tuning cars my dude, that was why there were so many that were machines and stuff.
Inspector border is bad ? You can't host this and not know about the cards your talking about
Have you seen it in a competitive deck recently? Anything that made top cut in a YCS?