"If you want to tell a Magic player how Yugioh plays, tell them that it's Legacy format, everyone's on Storm, and you always open up two Force of Wills" ~ -Mono Blue Tron- Marincess Blue Tang, aka MBT
@@TheOneJameYT He doesn't play a ton of contemporary MTG iirc, so you might be able to get him on if you specifically ask about how strong current cards are. (Or, say, cards after when he stopped paying attention.) But that's about it.
Not only was he spot on with BLS, but also how yugioh is unimaginably difficult to pick up without someone else holding your hand through the process right now. The format is truly a curse and a blessing, sometimes older cards get their brief spot in the limelight for fulfilling a specific niche, but you're also entering an arms race with how each set has to one-up the last one for Konami to sell stuff
I love how the rule "lvl 4 or lower is free normal summon in atk position, 5 or 6 is 1 tribute and 7+ is 2 tribute. You can do a Tribute Summon instead of a Normal Summon in atk position. You can also set a lvl 4 or lower face down in defense position instead of a normal/tribute summon" is always explained first when in an actual game you'll never tribute summon and almost never normal set
It looks like he thought every monster attacked simultaneously like in magic, which would obviously make tempest was worse if you instantly take 8k rather than 3k 3k 2k
Yeah, might be worth pointing out in the future both for effects like Inferno Tempest but also ScareKash that monsters attack individually. Granted there are a handful of effects that trigger at the start of battle phase (Dragonmaids come to mind) which are like the effects he was thinking of, but ofc those aren't super common.
Inferno Tempest is 100% a meme, I played it in master duel as a troll deck. Kaiju + Hippo token + Inferno Tempest, banishing 3 Necroface + Nyannyan as a 4th Necroface, instant deck out. The combo rarely went off, but when it did, it was hilarious.
Inferno tempest is definitely a jaw-dropper the first time you see it, but it's definitely a meme. Not everything that *can* instantly win the game is actually good.
Id play it as a meme option in my runick deck. Give them a lava golem or a kaiju and then grin as you have to banish 1 dogoran and they banish their entire deck
Suggestion: It would be interesting to show the Magic player a yugioh game replay (in masterduel or youtube) before evaluating the cards. Don’t let them pause to read the cards during the replay, but just let them watch the replay to get a sense of the game’s tempo/flow such as how often monsters are summoned, etc.
I very much enjoy this series of videos. I have a couple suggestions that you can totally ignore if you wish. I just feel it would make it feel more like a game. 1. First of all, I'd have the guest ask a bunch of generic questions before the game even starts. Hand size, win con, basic Summon rules. Having every guest ask these questions every time makes the videos a little repetitive. 2. Then the interesting change to me: Since the basic questions are out of the way, each guest gets to ask 3 questions about the card and that's it. So for Electromagnetic Turtle he could could ask something like, "Are Machine monsters in the meta right now?" Or "What does quick effect mean?" I just personally find that game a bit more interesting. Keep up the good work though.
Bro. No. Inferno tempest isn’t played with gren maju. If you’re losing in combat in that deck you’re losing. The card is played in mill decks with Necroface as a blind going second deck. You place Jizukiryu the lightning strike kaiju on the opponents board. Summon your scapegoats or hip hippo tokens then crash to mill out their entire deck during the battle phase. necroface triggers to mill their remaining spell and trap cards and Virtual world nyan nyan and Lunalight kaleido chick shuffle your necrofaces back into your deck.
Here's an idea for an episode: an April Fool's Day episode where the name of the game is the same, but you only show cards with the tag "This card cannot be used in a Duel" in the bottom left. You know, cards like Entertainment HERO Pit-Boss.
A good explanation of electromagnetic turtle is, it doesnt win you the game. In yugioh you cant really play "in case Im losing" cards, because winning makes you win harder and losing makes you lose harder. So a card that keeps you barely hanging, doesnt matter because of that huge momentum your opponent has.
26:35 reminds me of the time someone tried to win a duel with Ra but since I had Scareclaw it's effects were negated and the other dude ended himself in the process 😂
Love these videos, keep them up Jame! I would love to see how a non-YuGiOh players reacts to and analyses a monster like Ancient Gear Howitzer. Where the effect straight up says "Unaffected by other cards' effects". Oh and then after they give their answer, you can explain to them that other cards can in fact effect that monster. For example summoning Ancient Gear Howitzer with Power Bond will double it's attack, since the effect is applied before the card hits the board.
@@hexi9595 magic has a lot of that, "target player discards two cards", "each player sacrifices a creature", etc a lot of things are player actions in magic
May I suggest showing Madolche Queen Tiaramisu (or Madolche's in general if going for the archetype format) to a guest. The reaction to the bonkers broken removal effect on a literal cake waifu would be funny to see.
What's interesting with BLS is it's actually a spicy tech extender for decks these days. It's not the best option for most decks, but it's an easy card to drop, banish a card, and go into bigger and better things. Yesterday's boss monster is today's extender!
@@Bennime_Once It's a good budget extender more than anything, but of the cards that have easy to meet inherit summoning requirements, BLS has a lot more use cases than most. I've seen it in a variety of decks but seems especially good in decks that can use the banish effect in both going first and second matchups (ie banish their own monsters turn 1). It can be decent with a variety of dragons too as it synergizes well with their strategies whether because it's a Light, a Level-8, or just an extra body that does something rather than nothing. I've even seen it in some budget Mathmech decks in MD when link-climbing. Almost every deck that could play it have better consistency cards, but if you want your deck to break more boards, it's a decent budget extender that'll usually get a smile. P.S. I don't play it because if I can afford consistency cards, I'll play them, but I honestly love the ways I see BLS slipped into decks now and again.
Scareclaw kashtira is actually one of the best cards in mannadium. It's only because it has scareclaw in the name to make lightheart, but that kind of does everything.
I would love to see one card from my pet deck, Madolche. Like Madolchepaloosa, which read "summon as many monsters as you can" but in reality doesn't achieve much.
Glad you're still doing videos like this instead of just the archetype videos. I think you picked some solid cards that are good to speculate on. I think you've really figured your format out.
One fun way to mix things up again in a future video could be to show two cards at once and ask them which card is better. Knowing the *current* power level is very hard from the outside, and lacking context is a big issue, but explaining too much of that takes a long time and could give it away, so giving a specific reference point of a specific other card you're comparing to could be interesting.
These videos have always been good, but it’s great to see you getting closer and closer to properly cracking the formula of “what card/archetype should I show?” - you’re doing a much better job than I would do (or, for that matter, that anyone who inevitably complains about your card selection in the comments would do). Not relevant to this video, but for the archetype videos it might be cool to show guests a standard combo/endboard/setup so they can contextualise what the cards actually do. Or don’t - maybe that’s too easy (you’re the one thinking long and hard about how to put these videos together after all, and they’re getting more polished every time).
Thank you so much!! I’m happy people are liking the way I’m doing things. I wonder if doing a different card game every once in awhile (maybe me evaluating a game I’m not familiar with) would be something people would like to watch.
@@TheOneJameYTfor the archetype vids I really do want to see u show the guests a combo vid for the archetype. Just to show them how the deck plays it’s usual shit. Maybe just refrain from decks like infernity as they have a tendency to have super long combos. U don’t wanna put a poor bastard thru a 5 hour long combo or worse. A deck like dragonlink b4 getting slowly killed by many banlists. Dragonlink in its prime wud be great. Or show them trickstar, but show the FTK, control, hand rip, and link variants. Then let them decide which they think was the best in tournament play in its heyday and which cud potentially or does see play today. Actually having trickstar be in its own dedicated vid for the archetype 1s and like I suggest wud be awesome. They get to c a deck that can be played in many ways, how gud they think the deck and cards r, then after seeing the archetypes diff variants in action they can try to figure out wat variants were played more and were better and wat variants may still c play. Not all the variants r created equal, and some were and still r better then others.
@@TheOneJameYT Yeah, I'd personally watch you guess different card games, it's interesting to see people's perspective on the cards in general. Imo it'd also be cool to see card games involved for this be really different from both Magic and Yu-Gi-Oh, like Pokemon or Vanguard, just so there's a bit less of inherent familiarity with concepts and more wild or unusual takes stemming from more incomplete knowledge of the game. Granted, Yu-Gi-Oh and Magic are very different games, but it would be cool to branch out into other combinations and see you trying to step into unfamiliar territory yourself
Would love to see Lavalval Chain, if you haven't done that card already. I can see three different types of thoughts on that card, and all of them would lead to interesting discussions. "Are graveyard effects really that good?" "This is broken, I could send (insert a Magic card with a good graveyard effect here) so easily." "It looks good, but I bet it's been powercrept by now."
I've been playing magic for about a year, the graveyard isn't anywhere near to yugioh levels. it's still a semi-permanent place without building around or it or using retrieval spells, I still need to get used to the fact it isn't a second hand
"card that draws 2 then discard 2 would be banned", someone tells him about hand destruction. Plus scareclaw kashtira is very specific to ask about to some who dont know yugioh
@@benito1620never playing hand destruction again it says and if you do and my opponents shifter disagreed so we both lost 3 cards and i was playing fabled( a bad version) and i needed that
Scareclaw Kashtira isn’t amazing but it’s negation effect can save your game vs a Chaos Angel or similar monster that aren’t affected by activated monster effects
He hit the nail on the head with black luster soldier envoy of the beggining What i would i liked to hear is the magic players react too how yugioh has tier 0 formats to see there reaction Aka choose cards from a tier 0 deck Example tearlements kit kallos
I’d argue that Skill Drain used to be ass in Edison and back. Just because the game was waaaaay slower so removal was more manageable. Now Skill Drain is way better even with it being a trap
I would love to see you get on some cedh content creators to see how they would react to some combos or cards. Playing with power, spikefeeders, comedIAN, play to win, etc
For skill drain I feel saying “you can’t activate it on your turn” isn’t too accurate since you can activate on your turn just not the same turn it’s set but this was a great video!
Love the mtg/yugioh card rating videos and Juza did really well! Its cool to see how much knowledge transfers between games. Would you be able to get more Yugioh creators to ask about MTG? I would like to be on the side that has insider knowledge again lol
@@TheOneJameYT It's all good : ) Thanks for all the work you put in and thank you for connecting with us and taking suggestions to heart. You are in the comments every video and it is awesome!
@@JJSquirtle yeah in the beginning where both were legal. But when stuff started to get banned this and chaos sorc were the only survivors and chaos sorc wasn't an autoinclude.
honestly if you haven't already, showing either just Purrley Delicious memory or it as part of the Purrley archtype showcase. Considering it's been Limited in Master Duel, the absurdity of a card who's secondary effect (which is just "increase the ATK/DEF of the Purrley XYZ monster this card is an XYZ material based on the amount of XYZ materials that monster has") is the main reason it's been limited to one, compared with the other archtypes/cards with much more detrimental effects.
I actually played inferno tempest in like 2008 in a mill deck. you go second, summon grinder golem, crash and lose 3k, activate inferno tempest and if that resolves, you decked out your opponent because you banished 3 necroface which extra mill 5 each.
Here's a card suggestion for future guests: 4 Star Ladybug of Doom (destroy all level 4 monsters on the field). It's not the best card ever but it has a fairly interesting effect at the very least.
He’s never seen a yugioh card in his life so I thought it would be better to do it this way. If he comes on the show again I’ll give him archetypes for sure.
37:26 I guess this really highlights why the card game of Yu-Gi-Oh! is called "Duel Monsters" The game has really evolved into the quick 0-2 turn duel-to-the-death from its original-slower-inception.
Asking a MTG Hall of Famer to rate Yu-Gi-Oh archetypes would be cool. As they would be able to actually understand immediately what archetype is trying to do hopefully.
@TheOneJameYT I mean as someone who understands both games it's just always interesting to see people that might not understand ether game as much still be able to understand the Core Concepts.
I mean, you would think that having the power level where it is would limit everything to one deck. But right now, that couldn't be further from the truth. There's almost too much variety at the moment 😂
It was funny to me that he was trying to evaluate kash based on the attack eff when ive played every visas lore deck and i didnt know it had that eff. For like 90% of players its just a lvl 7 vanilla that specials itself
that effect is nuts actually since it is a continuous effect and doesn't activate, so you can't respond to it and it happens immediately upon declaring an attack unlike zeus/etc. If you're trying to break a board it demands an answer
Scareclaw kash outs a lot of (modern) towers because the effect isn't an activated and most newly printed towers don't give protection from continuous effects.
Hello! I really enjoy this series of videos. I saw a suggestion in the comments that I also agree with. You could showcase two cards with similar functions at once and ask which one is better. I think this would be more interesting and also an innovative approach.
I know Xyz cards would probably be complicated to explain to newbies but Red Eyes Flare Metal Dragon would be a solid bait card. I think someone would probably want to say it's really good even though it doesn't seem any play
I havent really played Yugioh for awhile so even i had to look up Scareclaw (I have heard and seen Kashtira) and from what i can see its just upgraded Crusadia.
I really feel a basic rundown of the rules including phase order, what the basic three summoning methods are, and basically what the extra deck is are kinda important for videos like this. Another issue which did come up here as well is that combat resolution in magic is very different in some major ways from yugioh and unless clarified at some point its gonna make things weird and confusing both going forward and in retrospect for the guest.
Draw 7 is way to strong , it be banned instantly: Usartic Radiation crying over about being unplayable. Very few things attacks while in defense position. Super Heavy Samurai, and Scareclaw: " Its a fairly exclusive club."
He has very good analysis' i think he could be a really good yugo player.. he was trying so hard to explain card chains but didnt know how it happens in yugioh
I still think the best way to explain Yugioh te.po and style of play by comparing it to Neobrand. If you think the comparison is flawed, i may be wrong of course cu i dobt play and only saw some yugioh content mostly in terms of mtg players exploring it etc. But still, it is in my opinion the closest mtg gets to thst game. I guess second best would be just any vintage deck in terms of speed but these tend to be less complex in terms of amount of Step you go through in your comboes.
I really love this series and i am looking forward for more cards and guests. Btw yugioh just releaed a 2 player starter kit to learn the game via scripted duel and it would be interesting to see what total newcommer rhink about this kind of introductionary product (most yugioh player think its a bad product but it would be interesting to see this scriptsd duel play out and look if they learned anything about rhe basics of the game and you could be the narrator for the duel reading the script for example)
Couple ideas. Next archetype video could themed around machine archetypes like Cyber Dragons, Dinomist, Machina, etc. You could also do a video where every card you show them is abanned card and instead of guessing how good it is they instead have to guess whether it deserves to be banned or not. For example all the tuners that got banned because of cards like Halq.
35:10 "I like playing with bad cards" tbh plenty of yugioh players do. Just see how many people are dedicated to casual archetype. Saying this as someone whose favorite archetype is AoJ
The area between "bad" and "not tier one" is a very wide range in yugioh too. Even bricky messes can sneak wins off considerably better decks if they open well.
18:36 I can activate it on my battle turn, in a deck like metaphis, where I want all my monsters to be removed because they can return to the deck and activate their effects, and my opponent will have fewer cards in the deck because of the necroface , and I can banish in the next turn all the monsters my opponent controls with quick effect if I activate the field spell and summon deudaulos, my opponent will be stuck with no more monsters to play, and few cards left in the deck, its very easy to do.
I've been loving these cross projecting the power of a card from people outside of that game. Also love ya got Martin Juza always a great guy. Hope you can do more with Pro or just really good players with these videos. Maybe throw some Banned or Errata cards into the mix if you want to spice things up. Another idea maybe throw like a one of card that ya feel should be banned, but isn't. Kind of like when yugitubers were showing Mystic Mine to players of other games up until it got banned.
It's not like that. Imperial order does that to spells, but skill drain negates only while the monster still on the field. If it leaves the field before resolution the effect resolves normally.
Inferno Tempest is still one of my favourite cards ever created. I use it from time to time, with necrofaces and Dynamite, its rare play to do but when it goes through ooh baby so fun. 😂
Electromagnetic Turtle was never really good it came out far too late for BP shenanigans, unless I’m missing something and it was somebodies local legend.
Ha. I'm glad to see someone else trying to use the release date on the card to help gauge its power. In YGO that's usually a pretty good indicator. I realize that's kind of against the spirit of this style of video, but maybe you should black out that information when you show the card.
"Is yugioh focus on monsters attacking or like storm decks that play a lot of cards?"
yes
🤣🤣🤣
"If you want to tell a Magic player how Yugioh plays, tell them that it's Legacy format, everyone's on Storm, and you always open up two Force of Wills"
~ -Mono Blue Tron- Marincess Blue Tang, aka MBT
@@SyxxPunk I’d like to get MBT on the show but he knows too much of both games lol
@@TheOneJameYT He doesn't play a ton of contemporary MTG iirc, so you might be able to get him on if you specifically ask about how strong current cards are. (Or, say, cards after when he stopped paying attention.) But that's about it.
@@najawin8348 very true, in that case I hope he agrees to come on the show at some point!
Not only was he spot on with BLS, but also how yugioh is unimaginably difficult to pick up without someone else holding your hand through the process right now. The format is truly a curse and a blessing, sometimes older cards get their brief spot in the limelight for fulfilling a specific niche, but you're also entering an arms race with how each set has to one-up the last one for Konami to sell stuff
"inferno tempest isn't a meme"
Incorrect. It is a meme which is why we love it and will defend it to the death.
I love how the rule "lvl 4 or lower is free normal summon in atk position, 5 or 6 is 1 tribute and 7+ is 2 tribute. You can do a Tribute Summon instead of a Normal Summon in atk position. You can also set a lvl 4 or lower face down in defense position instead of a normal/tribute summon" is always explained first when in an actual game you'll never tribute summon and almost never normal set
It looks like he thought every monster attacked simultaneously like in magic, which would obviously make tempest was worse if you instantly take 8k rather than 3k 3k 2k
Yup lol
Yeah, might be worth pointing out in the future both for effects like Inferno Tempest but also ScareKash that monsters attack individually. Granted there are a handful of effects that trigger at the start of battle phase (Dragonmaids come to mind) which are like the effects he was thinking of, but ofc those aren't super common.
No way!! I was the one who suggested Inferno Tempest a while back along with Gingerbread House, I'm so happy to finally see it here, thank you! 😁
Thanks for the idea!
@@TheOneJameYTNext time do the reverse.
Try rating MTG cards😊
Inferno Tempest is 100% a meme, I played it in master duel as a troll deck. Kaiju + Hippo token + Inferno Tempest, banishing 3 Necroface + Nyannyan as a 4th Necroface, instant deck out. The combo rarely went off, but when it did, it was hilarious.
witch sometimes just wins the game lol
Inferno tempest is definitely a jaw-dropper the first time you see it, but it's definitely a meme. Not everything that *can* instantly win the game is actually good.
ye @@Pyroniusburn
Master Duel also had the added benefit of being best of 1, that really made gimmick going second decks powerful.
Id play it as a meme option in my runick deck.
Give them a lava golem or a kaiju and then grin as you have to banish 1 dogoran and they banish their entire deck
Suggestion: It would be interesting to show the Magic player a yugioh game replay (in masterduel or youtube) before evaluating the cards. Don’t let them pause to read the cards during the replay, but just let them watch the replay to get a sense of the game’s tempo/flow such as how often monsters are summoned, etc.
I’m such a big fan of these videos! Can’t wait for the day til one of these MTG players see a Superheavy Samurai one card combo lolol
Haha their mind would explode
@@TheOneJameYT This comment is so broken. It has multiplied until it fills my screen.
Funnily enough, that's the Deck responsible for half the cards that attack in defense position.
I very much enjoy this series of videos. I have a couple suggestions that you can totally ignore if you wish. I just feel it would make it feel more like a game.
1. First of all, I'd have the guest ask a bunch of generic questions before the game even starts. Hand size, win con, basic Summon rules. Having every guest ask these questions every time makes the videos a little repetitive.
2. Then the interesting change to me: Since the basic questions are out of the way, each guest gets to ask 3 questions about the card and that's it. So for Electromagnetic Turtle he could could ask something like, "Are Machine monsters in the meta right now?" Or "What does quick effect mean?"
I just personally find that game a bit more interesting. Keep up the good work though.
Holy hell Yes This!!
Bro. No. Inferno tempest isn’t played with gren maju. If you’re losing in combat in that deck you’re losing.
The card is played in mill decks with Necroface as a blind going second deck.
You place Jizukiryu the lightning strike kaiju on the opponents board. Summon your scapegoats or hip hippo tokens then crash to mill out their entire deck during the battle phase. necroface triggers to mill their remaining spell and trap cards and Virtual world nyan nyan and Lunalight kaleido chick shuffle your necrofaces back into your deck.
Here's an idea for an episode: an April Fool's Day episode where the name of the game is the same, but you only show cards with the tag "This card cannot be used in a Duel" in the bottom left. You know, cards like Entertainment HERO Pit-Boss.
A good explanation of electromagnetic turtle is, it doesnt win you the game.
In yugioh you cant really play "in case Im losing" cards, because winning makes you win harder and losing makes you lose harder. So a card that keeps you barely hanging, doesnt matter because of that huge momentum your opponent has.
true, i play it in an older ygo game but its main use is protecting stratos so i can xyz summon with the second one
26:35 reminds me of the time someone tried to win a duel with Ra but since I had Scareclaw it's effects were negated and the other dude ended himself in the process 😂
Tear mirror for cedh players. Tear mirror for cedh players. :) :)
Who hurt you
But yes
Love these videos, keep them up Jame! I would love to see how a non-YuGiOh players reacts to and analyses a monster like Ancient Gear Howitzer. Where the effect straight up says "Unaffected by other cards' effects". Oh and then after they give their answer, you can explain to them that other cards can in fact effect that monster. For example summoning Ancient Gear Howitzer with Power Bond will double it's attack, since the effect is applied before the card hits the board.
Or cards that force player actions like Herald of the Abyss. Or cards that you can use to out it as a player action like kaijus.
@@hexi9595 yeah exactly. "This card is unaffected by other cards' effects...expect when sometimes it still is" ;)
@@hexi9595 magic has a lot of that, "target player discards two cards", "each player sacrifices a creature", etc
a lot of things are player actions in magic
More evil suggestion: get them to try and parse Magical Ref-Panel
May I suggest showing Madolche Queen Tiaramisu (or Madolche's in general if going for the archetype format) to a guest. The reaction to the bonkers broken removal effect on a literal cake waifu would be funny to see.
What's interesting with BLS is it's actually a spicy tech extender for decks these days. It's not the best option for most decks, but it's an easy card to drop, banish a card, and go into bigger and better things. Yesterday's boss monster is today's extender!
In what deck would you play BLS? even in the most niche rank8 spam decks have better extenders.
@@Bennime_Once Chaos, Dragon Link, Rank 8 Piles, any deck with light, and Dark.
@@Bennime_Once It's a good budget extender more than anything, but of the cards that have easy to meet inherit summoning requirements, BLS has a lot more use cases than most. I've seen it in a variety of decks but seems especially good in decks that can use the banish effect in both going first and second matchups (ie banish their own monsters turn 1). It can be decent with a variety of dragons too as it synergizes well with their strategies whether because it's a Light, a Level-8, or just an extra body that does something rather than nothing. I've even seen it in some budget Mathmech decks in MD when link-climbing. Almost every deck that could play it have better consistency cards, but if you want your deck to break more boards, it's a decent budget extender that'll usually get a smile.
P.S. I don't play it because if I can afford consistency cards, I'll play them, but I honestly love the ways I see BLS slipped into decks now and again.
I love the fact that BLS just always stays relevant, like even if it doesn't have a "best use-case" niche right now, it's always there as a substitute
Scareclaw kashtira is actually one of the best cards in mannadium. It's only because it has scareclaw in the name to make lightheart, but that kind of does everything.
that's an exaggeration, I cut it months ago because it is a brick and never missed it since then
@@VORTEX___ I mean, you play it in Kashtira as a "free" special summon and a level 7 for Arise heart, Shangri and Big Eye so
I would love to see one card from my pet deck, Madolche. Like Madolchepaloosa, which read "summon as many monsters as you can" but in reality doesn't achieve much.
Glad you're still doing videos like this instead of just the archetype videos. I think you picked some solid cards that are good to speculate on. I think you've really figured your format out.
Thanks!! I’ve been trying lol
One fun way to mix things up again in a future video could be to show two cards at once and ask them which card is better. Knowing the *current* power level is very hard from the outside, and lacking context is a big issue, but explaining too much of that takes a long time and could give it away, so giving a specific reference point of a specific other card you're comparing to could be interesting.
According to Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki there are 16 defense position attackers
That’s a good stat to know, my guess was way off lol
Superheavy Samurai archetype.
@@cristianovogt5586 12 Superheavy
+ Total Defense Shogun, Rampart Blaster, Cocytus, and Scareclaw Kash
After they read the card I think giving an example of how you would use the card might clear up a lot of confusion
These videos have always been good, but it’s great to see you getting closer and closer to properly cracking the formula of “what card/archetype should I show?” - you’re doing a much better job than I would do (or, for that matter, that anyone who inevitably complains about your card selection in the comments would do).
Not relevant to this video, but for the archetype videos it might be cool to show guests a standard combo/endboard/setup so they can contextualise what the cards actually do. Or don’t - maybe that’s too easy (you’re the one thinking long and hard about how to put these videos together after all, and they’re getting more polished every time).
Thank you so much!! I’m happy people are liking the way I’m doing things. I wonder if doing a different card game every once in awhile (maybe me evaluating a game I’m not familiar with) would be something people would like to watch.
@@TheOneJameYTfor the archetype vids I really do want to see u show the guests a combo vid for the archetype. Just to show them how the deck plays it’s usual shit. Maybe just refrain from decks like infernity as they have a tendency to have super long combos. U don’t wanna put a poor bastard thru a 5 hour long combo or worse. A deck like dragonlink b4 getting slowly killed by many banlists. Dragonlink in its prime wud be great. Or show them trickstar, but show the FTK, control, hand rip, and link variants. Then let them decide which they think was the best in tournament play in its heyday and which cud potentially or does see play today.
Actually having trickstar be in its own dedicated vid for the archetype 1s and like I suggest wud be awesome. They get to c a deck that can be played in many ways, how gud they think the deck and cards r, then after seeing the archetypes diff variants in action they can try to figure out wat variants were played more and were better and wat variants may still c play. Not all the variants r created equal, and some were and still r better then others.
@@TheOneJameYT Yeah, I'd personally watch you guess different card games, it's interesting to see people's perspective on the cards in general. Imo it'd also be cool to see card games involved for this be really different from both Magic and Yu-Gi-Oh, like Pokemon or Vanguard, just so there's a bit less of inherent familiarity with concepts and more wild or unusual takes stemming from more incomplete knowledge of the game. Granted, Yu-Gi-Oh and Magic are very different games, but it would be cool to branch out into other combinations and see you trying to step into unfamiliar territory yourself
@@mapeus that’s the plan, but I need people to do the videos with!
1996 is when Yu-Gi-Oh itself started, not when that particular card was printed.
scarecrow kashtira is the perfect definition of a medium to bad card getting carried by the rest of the deck
Would love to see Lavalval Chain, if you haven't done that card already.
I can see three different types of thoughts on that card, and all of them would lead to interesting discussions.
"Are graveyard effects really that good?"
"This is broken, I could send (insert a Magic card with a good graveyard effect here) so easily."
"It looks good, but I bet it's been powercrept by now."
I've been playing magic for about a year, the graveyard isn't anywhere near to yugioh levels. it's still a semi-permanent place without building around or it or using retrieval spells, I still need to get used to the fact it isn't a second hand
"card that draws 2 then discard 2 would be banned", someone tells him about hand destruction. Plus scareclaw kashtira is very specific to ask about to some who dont know yugioh
Hand destruction goes both ways
@@TheOneJameYT Not only goes but ways but hand destruction makes you discard first which is worse then drawing first then discarding.
Hand destruction is a discard then draw which Is worse than draw then discard.
@@benito1620never playing hand destruction again it says and if you do and my opponents shifter disagreed so we both lost 3 cards and i was playing fabled( a bad version) and i needed that
TheOneJame crushing it on the series
Thanks! 🫡
Scareclaw Kashtira isn’t amazing but it’s negation effect can save your game vs a Chaos Angel or similar monster that aren’t affected by activated monster effects
As someone who's played Yu-Gi-Oh since the TCG came out, hearing the thought process of a professional Magic Player is really intriguing.
Great Video!
Thanks!!
BLS-EOTH pretty much being one of the early “dragons” is startlingly accurate. 😂
Yugioh is funny because Faithless Looting would be too powerful but having Demonic Tutor attached to half the cards is fine.
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We have a lot of limited bad card formats in yugioh. It's why our UA-camrs still make content.
I’ve thought about doing something like the progression series but for Magic
He hit the nail on the head with black luster soldier envoy of the beggining
What i would i liked to hear is the magic players react too how yugioh has tier 0 formats to see there reaction
Aka choose cards from a tier 0 deck
Example tearlements kit kallos
I’d argue that Skill Drain used to be ass in Edison and back. Just because the game was waaaaay slower so removal was more manageable. Now Skill Drain is way better even with it being a trap
Just wanted to say i have loved all your mtg yugioh videos so thank you TheOneJame :) i thought Martin was fantastic, great to see his thought process
Glad you enjoyed!
I would love to see you get on some cedh content creators to see how they would react to some combos or cards. Playing with power, spikefeeders, comedIAN, play to win, etc
That would be cool
It would neet to show MTG players a couple of combos/games. Let them see just how crazy and fast yugioh can get.
I tried playing Inferno Tempest in MD's N/R event (alongside a lot of Paleozoics), and even then it was a meme and a half. Terrible.
For skill drain I feel saying “you can’t activate it on your turn” isn’t too accurate since you can activate on your turn just not the same turn it’s set but this was a great video!
Love the mtg/yugioh card rating videos and Juza did really well! Its cool to see how much knowledge transfers between games. Would you be able to get more Yugioh creators to ask about MTG? I would like to be on the side that has insider knowledge again lol
I wish I could, they just haven’t been available so far
@@TheOneJameYT It's all good : ) Thanks for all the work you put in and thank you for connecting with us and taking suggestions to heart. You are in the comments every video and it is awesome!
@@remulas13 I try my best to respond to everyone!
Black Luster Soldier was the sole reason decks called chaos decks.
even though he was the only chaos monster in the deck.
Well CED was there for a bit too. And chaos sorc was always played in chaos until like edison where it's more debatable
@@JJSquirtle yeah in the beginning where both were legal.
But when stuff started to get banned this and chaos sorc were the only survivors and chaos sorc wasn't an autoinclude.
@@mauer1 like I said, it stayed in lists till like edison, and only left because bls was back lol
honestly if you haven't already, showing either just Purrley Delicious memory or it as part of the Purrley archtype showcase. Considering it's been Limited in Master Duel, the absurdity of a card who's secondary effect (which is just "increase the ATK/DEF of the Purrley XYZ monster this card is an XYZ material based on the amount of XYZ materials that monster has") is the main reason it's been limited to one, compared with the other archtypes/cards with much more detrimental effects.
I actually played inferno tempest in like 2008 in a mill deck. you go second, summon grinder golem, crash and lose 3k, activate inferno tempest and if that resolves, you decked out your opponent because you banished 3 necroface which extra mill 5 each.
Here's a card suggestion for future guests: 4 Star Ladybug of Doom (destroy all level 4 monsters on the field). It's not the best card ever but it has a fairly interesting effect at the very least.
Should have informed him that 1996 at the bottom doesn't mean anything. That's just the copyright date. Even newer cards say that.
Awww, why’d we go back to the individual cards? Was this recorded before the archetype reviews? I like that format way more.
He’s never seen a yugioh card in his life so I thought it would be better to do it this way. If he comes on the show again I’ll give him archetypes for sure.
37:26 I guess this really highlights why the card game of Yu-Gi-Oh! is called "Duel Monsters"
The game has really evolved into the quick 0-2 turn duel-to-the-death from its original-slower-inception.
Inferno Tempest + Necroface will never not be funny
4 out of 5, a solid b+ grade for the resident hall of famer. Will he return? I'm hoping that's a resounding yes.
I hope he can!
@@TheOneJameYT simple solution to that problem, keeping doing what you're doing and the schedules will align eventually
I wanna see a magic pro try and get their head around yugioh rulings.
Imagine showing someone the pole position loop and asking them to figure it out.
I feel like that would be a great DistantCoder video lol
Asking a MTG Hall of Famer to rate Yu-Gi-Oh archetypes would be cool. As they would be able to actually understand immediately what archetype is trying to do hopefully.
Hopefully!
@TheOneJameYT I mean as someone who understands both games it's just always interesting to see people that might not understand ether game as much still be able to understand the Core Concepts.
I mean, you would think that having the power level where it is would limit everything to one deck. But right now, that couldn't be further from the truth. There's almost too much variety at the moment 😂
It was funny to me that he was trying to evaluate kash based on the attack eff when ive played every visas lore deck and i didnt know it had that eff. For like 90% of players its just a lvl 7 vanilla that specials itself
that effect is nuts actually since it is a continuous effect and doesn't activate, so you can't respond to it and it happens immediately upon declaring an attack unlike zeus/etc. If you're trying to break a board it demands an answer
Scareclaw kash outs a lot of (modern) towers because the effect isn't an activated and most newly printed towers don't give protection from continuous effects.
Hello! I really enjoy this series of videos. I saw a suggestion in the comments that I also agree with. You could showcase two cards with similar functions at once and ask which one is better. I think this would be more interesting and also an innovative approach.
yugioh is like playing storm in magic when grapeshot etc. all where etbs instead of instant/sorceries. thats probably the best way of putting it
I know Xyz cards would probably be complicated to explain to newbies but Red Eyes Flare Metal Dragon would be a solid bait card. I think someone would probably want to say it's really good even though it doesn't seem any play
You should give em a rule book to refer to. See if they can parse things themselves would be interesting.
I'd love to see you showing alternate win conditions to MTG players (Exodia, Destiny Board, Musical Sumo Dice games, etc.).
I havent really played Yugioh for awhile so even i had to look up Scareclaw (I have heard and seen Kashtira) and from what i can see its just upgraded Crusadia.
I really feel a basic rundown of the rules including phase order, what the basic three summoning methods are, and basically what the extra deck is are kinda important for videos like this.
Another issue which did come up here as well is that combat resolution in magic is very different in some major ways from yugioh and unless clarified at some point its gonna make things weird and confusing both going forward and in retrospect for the guest.
Draw 7 is way to strong , it be banned instantly: Usartic Radiation crying over about being unplayable.
Very few things attacks while in defense position. Super Heavy Samurai, and Scareclaw: " Its a fairly exclusive club."
Inferno tempest is absolutely overpowered in metaphys.
He has very good analysis' i think he could be a really good yugo player.. he was trying so hard to explain card chains but didnt know how it happens in yugioh
You have to show them some turn skip cards like Calamity or Arcana Force
scareclaw kash is definitely schmuck bait, it looks so useful and read as rather op yet not too op but in reality its a mid card
Love your videos!!! Still waiting fornyou to show people metalfoes and see them not understandings how this Vanilla monsters were top tier deck
I’ll do them eventually, it’s just hard to explain pendulum monsters to a new person lol. Happy you like the videos!
Definitely liked the Archetype format more but this guest was really good.
Nice to get a mix of both IMO
I still think the best way to explain Yugioh te.po and style of play by comparing it to Neobrand. If you think the comparison is flawed, i may be wrong of course cu i dobt play and only saw some yugioh content mostly in terms of mtg players exploring it etc. But still, it is in my opinion the closest mtg gets to thst game. I guess second best would be just any vintage deck in terms of speed but these tend to be less complex in terms of amount of Step you go through in your comboes.
I really love this series and i am looking forward for more cards and guests. Btw yugioh just releaed a 2 player starter kit to learn the game via scripted duel and it would be interesting to see what total newcommer rhink about this kind of introductionary product (most yugioh player think its a bad product but it would be interesting to see this scriptsd duel play out and look if they learned anything about rhe basics of the game and you could be the narrator for the duel reading the script for example)
You need to include Star Duston!
You shoudl always end with showing the person Endymion, just for the text
Couple ideas. Next archetype video could themed around machine archetypes like Cyber Dragons, Dinomist, Machina, etc. You could also do a video where every card you show them is abanned card and instead of guessing how good it is they instead have to guess whether it deserves to be banned or not. For example all the tuners that got banned because of cards like Halq.
The envoy cards were the reason the banlist was created
35:10 "I like playing with bad cards" tbh plenty of yugioh players do. Just see how many people are dedicated to casual archetype. Saying this as someone whose favorite archetype is AoJ
The area between "bad" and "not tier one" is a very wide range in yugioh too.
Even bricky messes can sneak wins off considerably better decks if they open well.
18:36 I can activate it on my battle turn, in a deck like metaphis, where I want all my monsters to be removed because they can return to the deck and activate their effects, and my opponent will have fewer cards in the deck because of the necroface , and I can banish in the next turn all the monsters my opponent controls with quick effect if I activate the field spell and summon deudaulos, my opponent will be stuck with no more monsters to play, and few cards left in the deck, its very easy to do.
you could do an episode with funny and long card names as a theme with someone you already introduced in your channel in another video.
Video suggestion: is it still banned? You can go over things like zoodiac, spellbook, dragon rulers, orcust.
I like this!
The only issue is we have banned cards like dragon rulers that are kinda dog shit now
@@cuttlefish6839 they are slowly coming off the banlist. But full power they would be broken.
@@Pav298Unless there's a card I'm missing they're literally full power in MD right now and they're doing absolutely *nothing*
@@Pyroniusburn good point. I guess I underestimated power creep.
I've been loving these cross projecting the power of a card from people outside of that game. Also love ya got Martin Juza always a great guy. Hope you can do more with Pro or just really good players with these videos. Maybe throw some Banned or Errata cards into the mix if you want to spice things up. Another idea maybe throw like a one of card that ya feel should be banned, but isn't. Kind of like when yugitubers were showing Mystic Mine to players of other games up until it got banned.
I’ve shown mystic mine a couple of times in these videos lol
@@TheOneJameYT oh yea i think that is how i found ya. lol
Yata garasu ❤ or Zeus, time thief, Number 59, Number41,painful choice, snatch steal, sangan, lava golem, breaker magical warrior🎉
Just clicked here to say that the guy in the thumbnail looks like Mr. Bean if he was a soccer player.
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you realy need to get the profesor on here
That would be really cool
There’s nothing funnier to me than him calling BLS super complicated 😂😂
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BLS got banned, then got unbanned, making most decks play it again, and then eventually people stopped playing it
when I see a TOJ vid about yugioh, I click
Thank you 🫡
Show them Arcana Force The World and Yata Garasu!
I think it would be cool to show cards that are powerful going second like typhon
Day 2 of waiting for lunalight cards (lol). I really enjoy watching these videos so keep the up good work!
Thanks!
Damn Martin is asking the right questions
He really is
Actually, skill drain negates effect of effect monster activated on the field 🤓
I’m aware lol
It's not like that. Imperial order does that to spells, but skill drain negates only while the monster still on the field. If it leaves the field before resolution the effect resolves normally.
Inferno Tempest is still one of my favourite cards ever created. I use it from time to time, with necrofaces and Dynamite, its rare play to do but when it goes through ooh baby so fun. 😂
asking again for the play to win crew to be brought in for analysis
I’d like that!
Professional Mtg player says Fog is a meta card, the fog meta is real
Electromagnetic Turtle was never really good it came out far too late for BP shenanigans, unless I’m missing something and it was somebodies local legend.
Inferno tempest is good at deck out combos
Out of topic but in thumbnail, you looks like mr.bean.
You’re not the first one to say that lol
Ha. I'm glad to see someone else trying to use the release date on the card to help gauge its power. In YGO that's usually a pretty good indicator.
I realize that's kind of against the spirit of this style of video, but maybe you should black out that information when you show the card.
"Why are we here? Just to suffer?"
Yes
@@TheOneJameYT well...alright then. So long as we know.