Mixing Bass Guitar With Slate Digital Plug Ins - Warren Huart: Produce Like A Pro
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What's your favourite Bass Guitar sound ever? Mine is and always has been 'Mystery Achievement' by Pete Farndon on The Pretender's self titled first album! Check out the Mixing with Slate Digital Plug Ins Course here: promixacademy.com/course/mixing-pop-rock-with-slate-plugins/
I can never get enough of the bass on that "Peg" number by steely dan.
The Bass player back in the day had to set himself on fire for ne a guitarist to notice. That being said Roundabout by Chris and Sr Paul were my favorites.
My favorite bass sound is from Sure Know Something from Dynasty 1979!
Roundabout and Taxman!
Yep, that’s one of the greatest of all time. Hard to beat Mystery Achievement in the bass department. John Entwistle in his prime was a great lead bassist.
I don't know who's playing the bass but they sure are solid. In the pocket. Consistent
Thanks! That's me!! You're very kind
As a bassist myself, I can only thank your for the tips. recording and mixing bass is really tricky.
Happy to help!
It says quite a lot about your personality the course is only $27. A lot of people add a 0 to that. Not judging anyone here. Just making an observation. "Thank you ever so much" Warren (and team). Always inspiring
Aw shucks! Thanks ever so much!
I loved this approach of using the inverted filter. Cheers!
Thanks ever so much Luke!
Ok. I have to admit that you all are teachng so well to me/us all these teknikS and it's always a new gift, each time Thanks to the whole Channel
Wow! Thanks ever so much! So glad to be able to help!!
I agree that 750 Hz is one of the best places to boost on a bass guitar. Well, I normally start at 800, but it can be anywhere from 700-1000. It really brings out the presence of the bass without adding any clankiness. It's also an area where not many other instruments live, so you can boost the bass there without stepping on anything else.
Thanks for this lesson, Mr.Warren!!!! Always great 👍👍👍💪
You’re very welcome!
So important to get the bass right. Thanks for your insight. Great video thanks very much
Glad it was helpful! Thanks ever so much!
Awesome thanks! That mid 3k trick on the bass amp will totally help my mixes translate to little speakers now! I've been trying to get the bass to sit better in the stuff I am currently mixing and am gonna try this trick now. You rock Warren!
Glad to help! Thanks ever so much Mary and Sam
Cool indie song. Fresh and current sounding.
Marvellous
I love this channel. Either for confirmation or new ideas.
You spoil us! Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
My pleasure! Thanks ever so much!
Awesome video and great playing!
Thanks ever so much! Glad you enjoyed it!
Great tips as always, thank you so much :)
You're so welcome!
gold nuggets - thanks for this
Man this Slate Tape is great, I use on everything! I love Kramer Tape and it's my favourite, but Slate is just as good, faturator is new for me! I need to experiment more with fresh air! Sounds good here!
Couldn't agree more!
Great video. Love Slate plug ins
Marvellous!
Very helpful. What a great idea is separation of lows and highs. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
I remember reading an interview with Billy Sheehan when I was a kid (85 years ago) that live, and maybe in the studio, he used a bass amp with little to no treble and then a 2nd amp, usually a guitar amp that filled in the treble for him - and the way he described it all made complete sense. It was basically, why make one amp have to do all of that work and cover the entire frequency spectrum. Or something akin to that. it was the 80s... my memory of stuff isn't all that great.
Yes! Doubled up Bass Amps can do amazing things when used like that@@Genious.
great tip thanks again mr huart
Thanks ever so much!
Very useful segment.
I used to somehow get better bass-tone back in the day, by plugging directly into my 4-track than I do with my digital-stuff now. Bass has been a real mystery.
I'm sure the 4 track added just enough pre amp saturation, tape transient shaping and other mojo! Maybe try a tape emulation plug in on then DI? See if that reminds of the sound you liked!
Use a guitar amp sim and layer it on top
Yes, indeed@@Durkhead definitely worth a try
I have, essentially, the same method. I treat the “amp” as the main source. I mix it to sound the best it can by itself with some natural grit. I usually high pass it at around 100hz - 120hz to clean out the low end and then I compress it a little bit to keep the transients in check but I don’t want to squash it. The DI I usually low pass (100hz - 80hz) and brick wall limit the living shit out of it so the clean, low end fundamental ends up being one level. I fade it in with the dynamic bass “amp” and it always ends up sounding pretty good in a pinch. In a perfect world, maybe I’d side chain the low end DI somehow to the kick drum so it’s got a bit of dynamics but for what I’m doing, this gets the job done 80% of the time. The bass guitar itself is nice and is dynamic but the low end is one consistent level.
Thanks ever so much for sharing your process Doug!
Very informative and educational. Thank you. IMHO I think you needed a bass or strings with more highs to help you out with getting more grit out of that sound. An Ibanez from the high-end SR line (not the Bartolini ones) would be an entirely different story.
Hi Warren, I also work a lot with high and lowpass settings (ReaEQ stock plugin is great for this), in this situation I would use the new Bettermaker Buss compressor on the mix buss, what I also dare to do is small panning on the bass DI (left) and the amp (right), just 2 or 3% out center. But this totally off topic, because we have Slate plugins for this production. I only have a few, mostly for drum creation. As main Dyn EQ I have only the Kirchhoff-EQ. Great to see your tutorials.
Thanks for sharing your process! I appreciate it, helps lot's of people!
@@Producelikeapro no problem, I like to share experiences.
@@Bluelagoonstudiosthanks ever so much
Another trick is to add modulation to the higher split, such as an spx 90 on the symphonic preset. Great way to add some movement and allows you to ”hear” the bass more
Very interesting! Thanks ever so much!
@@Producelikeapro You can hear it on a lot of 90s/Early 2000s rock (Linkin Park, Nirvana)!
@@_Alex_SanderDave Jerden would use the SGX Night Bass for a similar effect
Great tutorial as ever Maestro! Are there or have there been cases where you only mixed one bass track (di+Ampsim or real Amp), in a modern rock song, or do you always use the splitting technique? Cheers!
I have been given a single bass track that sounds amazing before! Can work wonders!
I use the ZOD IDDI: sounds like a bass amp. Then I push a lot 30 Hz on the pultec. The result is a di track that sounds like a bass amp. I also put Atlantis plugin onto the send for a little room.
Thanks ever so much for sharing your process!
@@Producelikeapro forgot to mention the bluey compressor. It adds the final glue. Best 1176 I have heard so far if the user understands the attack knob ;)
Haha indeed@@lipk8494 for most people it's confusing because it's 'back to front'!
@@Producelikeaprohaha, Right. However check out that ZOD IDDI. It’s great. But if you have the red A designs Box you do not need it. They are in the same ballpark. ZOD is a tiny bigger sound maybe in the low end. Both are great.
@@lipk8494marvellous! I’ll look it up
How is the song called? sounds fantastic!
Interesting. i'll have to listen again. i find it takes me a while to get a feel for sounds. At the moment, i have an impression that there was something about the original flat DI sound, and the amp sound, that i liked and was.... missing(?).... from the more tweeked sound. But then, i'm mostly a live player and i like lotsa mids on my bass.
Cool! Yes, the original DI sounds great, soloed! However, in the mix it comes and goes, after the processing it's even and present at all times!
Ah. Yes. That's why you mix records and i make demos.@@Producelikeapro
Haha I'm sure you do great work!@@TheLocalZeroChannel
Thanks. i manage to thump away at my bass around Quebec. And a bit (tiny bit) of studio work now and then. It's a bad way to make money but a good way to live. @@Producelikeapro
Hey Warren. Which Presonus Eris 8 speaker model do you recommend?
Nice video Warren, although I do not use Slate, I use the overall technique for mixing bass as bass player myself. I even add a multiband with the crossover at 250 to keep the nasty lows of 200-250 tamed. I stole that concept from you 😂
Didn't you use the owl song for bass techniques once? That song is forever chiseled on my mind because I watched that video countless times. And there's a video where you actually used a wah wah pedal on a bass track!
Love me I'm rich I I think is the song. Could someone put links to these videos? I want to watch them again and I'm too lazy to search
Haha I'd have to search myself to find them! Haha
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I'll find them. Good stuff! I was preaching the plapa gospel to a friend who had never heard of it AND has been home recording for probably a year now.
It certainly made a huge difference for me.
That;s wonderful to hear!@@don_ald1
Yay bass!
Yes!!
Do producers ever use sub synths beneath the bass in place of, say, a DI? And if so, are the subs a different octave from the bass guitar typically?
Absolutely! Many times!
As a Bassist am the only one whos forearms are destroyed by the bound edge on the body. I had a Rickenbacker 4003 and a Schector Hellraiser with bound body's and I can't play them !!!! They turn my forearms too hamburger after 20 minutes playing.
Ouch! That sounds all rather painful indeed
Are you no longer using the genelecs?
The only thing I'd do differently would be multing the bass DI and high pass the duplicate so that I wouldn't lose all the top end and have a source to bring back some of the bite.
If I didn't have an Amp that had more Top End in it than the DI then I would definitely do that!
Often I'll duplicate the DI, low pass and add some Saturation to it!
True! Otherwise you'll end up with three sources and it becomes a bit too much to handle :)@@Producelikeapro
@@RS-pp7ngI’ve done multiple tracks blended, it can be quite fun
Why am i always struggling to get the bass to sit right in my mixes. Always feels missing over overpowering. I struggle to get that nice "bass bed" in my songs.
Duplicate vs Send - pros and cons?
Hmm I would duplicates guarantees zero ;latency through bussing! Not that there should be any, however why take your chances?
great thinking@@Producelikeapro
Thanks!@@cgsmithinnola
What if you only have ONE bass source ?
Split it into two and treat one just as pure low end and the other for mids and colouration
Is it because of mixing for vinyl back in the day that mixes always have no bass. I was just listening to bands playing live shows just before this video and there is all the low end, but you listen to the record kick and bass is neutered. Even this bass sounds like its coming through tiny speakers. My walls should be shaking like in live shows.
Digital has allowed a much wider frequency range and loads more dynamic range! It;s all in how it's used of course!