Reasons to NEVER Use a Motorcycle Hitch Carrier
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- Опубліковано 24 лип 2019
- Reasons why you should avoid using a motorcycle hitch carrier.
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My bikes have fallen off those 3 times before after strapping it down good
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Hey man I've been watching your videos and I've noticed you're in ohio, what part if I may ask? I'm a new rider and itd be sick if we could ride together
This cars are designed to be able to tow, they are engineered, including the suspension, to handle much heavier loads then a motorcycle, you dont even know what you are talking about. If your car can not tow a trailer then yes this are bad idea, but if they can, then just check your specs
Love my hitch carrier! Never had an issue in 14yrs ..... if you are having rust problem, you should not be towing anyways. Use your head!
Most people will have a rust problem in the North, it's almost unavoidable unless you don't drive in the winter.
@HONEST ENGINE he's not exactly the smartest motovlogger out there haha.
what hitch carrier do you use?
@Max rod. Can you recommend a hitch carrier for a gsxr 600? Weighs 360lbs.
Use your head? Like head porterage? Otherwise known as Head Loading? Which is a very common way of transporting goods in developing countries. They've been doing it for millennia. I've even seen videos of them doing so with motorcycles! Haha!
A foldaway trailer would be nice. But the one you have linked in your discription is literally 10x the price of a hitch mounted carrier. Also if your issue is with rust, then it's the SAME ISSUE for both trailer and hitch mounted carrier.
not really, the trailer has two wheels to hold the load of the bike, a hitch trailer is basically 200 odd kilos dangling off the back of your frame, i'd feel significantly safer with a rusty trailer hitch PULLING a trailer than CARRYING 200 KILOS
never been so happy the comment section didn’t agree with the video creator this time, did not want to have a trailer
Thousands of trouble free miles hauling my bikes,with a hitch carrier....
im thinking of one
Same. His reasoning is kinda dumb too, is his fold up trailer not connected to that same hitch that he’d put a hitch carrier in. I love the hitch carrier best investment for bikes.
I'm 100% buying a hitch carrier, this video is stupid. "upgrade your suspension" lmao, riiiiiiiight.
agree with all these comments, he's not really thinking it through. I'm only going to carry my crf 250l and no I would want to put a harley davidson full bagger on there, lol.
@@markpowersports1278 It's connected to the same hitch, but obviously trailer have wheels so it's only leaning on your hitch.
You're only puling trailer, so a small part of weight is resting on your car, rest in on its own wheels. With a carrier all weight of bike and carrier is resting on your car and don't forget how leaver works, because it's not helping.
None of this makes sense. Stop giving advice when you don’t know what you are talking about. A hitch carrier is fine. Your reason that a hitch could fall out makes no sense. Then how does anyone tow anything?
You have to make sure your vehicle is rated for that tongue weight and you are good to go. I carry my bike on a hitch carrier with no problem off road. Super easy to load too
Lol. This dude doesn't know what he's talking about. What a simpleton.
How is he himself using a trailer then? Isn't he afraid hit hitch will fall off?...lol.
@@mattburk460 To be fair a motorcycle trailer will not put as much weight on the hitch, but a proper class of hitch can more than carry a motorcycle. the Class V hitch on my truck is rated for 5k lbs of tongue weight.
@@BrandonLeonSD this was 3 weeks ago...but if I remember the video correctly he is talking about rust weakening the hitch. So it doesn't matter what your towing in any manner. I rusted off hitch is a rusted off hitch.
@@mattburk460 but still he’s ultimate point is to never use this type of carrier. When it really should be don’t use compromised equipment.
Bloody hell man...what a waffle!! You coulda used 10% of the words you did. I won't be taking anything you say seriously.
So what you are actually saying is that you've never used one.
And this whole video is just heresay.
Great, I'm glad I wasted my time
It's the "I need more content" vlogger that wastes everyone's time.
Hitch carriers are awesome!
The same problems you have with rusty frames being used for a hitch carrier also would apply to that same hitch hauling your motorcycle trailer. An unsafe hitch is dangerous no matter what it is loaded on it, carrier or trailer.
Now ease of loading? Yes, trailers have that covered. But now we have the front wheel carriers that lift the front wheel of a bike and make it the trailer. Only a portion of the bike's weight is on the tow vehicle. It's secured in place, and is very stable if attached to the carrier correctly. It's a one person job and when you're done, remove it from the receiver and toss on a shelf. A very affordable and portable solution as an option to consider.
It's funny cause the picture he show of rust making a hitch fail was of a trailer.
8:26 of my time I'll never get back.
I save my 8:26 after reading comments 😀😀
Yea, but really, how much would you have made of that time anyway?🙄
So you attach your trailer to a rusty hitch?
While I think his argument is rather silly, you have to be pretty dense to think a trailer puts equivalent stress to a hitch carrier. With a 65lb hitch carrier and a 350 lb bike, you're looking at probably 450-500lbs of tongue weight (due to the leverage, the hitch carrier acts like a lever with a weight on it). With his trailer, which probably weighs about 350 lbs, holding that same 350lb bike, you're probably looking at 100-200 lbs of tongue weight. Maybe even less.
They're just not equivalent.
@@dangerdanadv1445 true but even a class 2 receiver is rated for more 350lbs. Class 3 and above is fine. On my ton truck the hitch is rated for several thousand pounds of tongue weight.
$2K for a motorcycle trailer? Damn...hitch carrier all the way!
Ikr po people got po wayz
No to mention the expense of maintaining the a wheeled trailer, and storing it.
Been using a hitch carrier for years for my dirt bikes. Some places we end up its easier to have a carrier than a trailer. Even over rough terrain my bike does not move.
Use 4 straps and a fork brace.
If your vehicle is so rusty you dont trust a hitch carrier, then its too rusty for a trailer too.
real talk bro.
facts! that’s literally what i!ve been doing for 5 years
Crear! Do you think I can use a hitch rack for a CRF 110 in a XV Crosstrek with 200 lb tongue limit weight??
Can you recommend any certain ones, brands, style, etc.? Thanks!
I mean. I can come up with 30 different "what ifs" to any trailer if you want. What about the salt under the trailer you have? How is that any different, what if it gets a flat, or 2 flats, or rusts and weakens. Idk
I've been using a hitch carrier and I love it, works great for me. I live in an area with no salt on roads though and my SUV can carry plenty tongue weight. Never had any problem loading my bikes on one, you gotto strap down the bikes well so they don't move. And as any equipment gotto make sure it is in good condition and maintain it properly.
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I have used a hitch carrier for 11 years now. Traveled over four different states, back roads, rain/shine, etc. Far better that hauling/pulling a trailer. I installed tail lights on the bottom and just plug them in just like you would with a trailer. If you have a vehicle in poor condition you shouldn't be hauling or pulling anything.
7:37 Dude.... if you get any more toys, you are gonna have to move and buy a house with a bigger garage...
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I used one of the harbor freight hitch racks to carry a ninja 250, as it was my first time it was a little sketch but i would feel comfortable using it again for that bike, however for anything even slightly heavier than a ninja 250 it would have been very sketchy putting on and off the bike on the rack, but once you have the bike up on there and strapped down properly it was pretty stable actually. i only hauled it about 40 miles on the freeway though.
What's the best way to secure the front of the bike with straps, handle bars or lower down on the forks?
I have a Chevy Trax LT 2016 I'm trying to get a rack for my Trail Master MB200 that weighs 167 should it be okay?
Hey! Did you ever turn your turn signals off
I ended up here because I've been thinking of a Jeep Grand Cherokee to use for camping with a roof tent. I thought...hitching a moto would be a nice way to get around if the Cherokee was tent bound.
My thoughts to this video? Rust proofing is an option, and I always spray my undercarriage when I wash my car in the winter (New England). I'm not crazy about hitch trailers because I feel they'll make the backend of the vehicle heavy and wallow, but in my case I'm thinking a small ADV or Supermoto.
Do you have any empirical evidence that hitch carriers have fallen off due to a rusty frame? I guess it's possible if you mount it to a rust-bucket, but I've never heard of it happening.
Google is your friend.
2:40 the point about rust on the frame is a good point that i didn't think about. I was planning on towing on local roads at low speeds using a wheel dolly so there would be lower weight, just to get the bike worked on. But I do have an older car.
Lol this guy talk about something he don’t own ?? Lost my time looking at this poor dude , do something you know man !!!
Honda Grom, Chevy cargo van, and hitch carrier... think itll work out?
Oh yeah
i’m curious if a cheap carrier could work for my volvo wagon?
hear me out, normally i wouldn’t use it or even keep a carrier on the car but, i drive locally a lot and sometimes my car needs to be left at a shop for maintenance.
when this happens, it would be nice to hook a carrier on the back and bring my moped on the back.
i can ride the moped home and drive it back when they’re done.
please note that i don’t have many friends and really hate asking for a ride from anyone.
So what is the difference òf your bike haul over a trailer? As far as the hitch point?
thinking of getting a truck and getting extra under-coating to protect the framework. currently load it up in the back of a mini-van. a bit annoying but if i take some of the plastics and mirrors off. it fits ... now the vans transmission is failing. so. thinks ima buy a new truck and one of these.
If you have that big of a rust issue then pulling a trailer is also dangerous ?
You need to know the maximum tongue weight your vehicle can support. It's usually 10% of the maximum towing capacity. For truck based SUV like a Tahoe, Suburban or Expedition, you can probably carry a 600lb bike on a trailer safely. For most crossovers with a 50lb carrier and even 300lb dual sport you'd be close to maximum safe tongue weight. I am hesitant to use a hitch carrier with my crossover to carry a WR250R, although it would be much more convenient than a trailer.
talking rubbish really i never had problem with my tilting hitch carrier, i mean never
Was your trailer 70 bucks?
It all depends on what your hitch tongue weight is rated for. My hitch is rated for 1500 lbs. of tongue weight. My bike and carrier totals about 600 lbs. Well under the rated 1500 lbs. Half ton trucks are often rated for 500-750 which works for a dirt bike.
Trailers are so expensive so I'm thinking a hitch trailer 600 lb trailer but my 22 africa twin is 550lbs I'm not sure it can handle it
It’s about ur cars rated tongue weight, not the hitch itself. Hitch bolts onto your frame, engineers decided what the max tongue weight is. U have 300lbs on it but u go over a bump and that turns into a lot more weight. This guy is totally right
I use my hitch carrier for my pit bike. I used it once for a big bike and it handled it fine but I have a trailer also that gets used more often. I wouldn't trust anything on a cheap one. My hitch is also 33 inches off the ground a lot of people have issues with scraping the carrier on the ground
CC how many miles you put on your Honda CBR 1000 for intervals oil service and maintenance?
I change the oil once a year and all other fluids once every other year. I only have like 7500 miles on my cbr. The manual for my bike says to change the oil like every 7k miles or every year, whichever comes first.
Do you have to register a fold up trailer
1:00. These are NOT meant for bikes above 250 pounds. MOST of those type of hitches that carry the full load of the bike ( as in not one of the tires is touching t he street while you're driving unlike my one wheeled hitch for the front wheel), will clearly state a max weight limit of 250 pounds or less...thus they are most often for DIRT bikes
Great vid ty.
Can you recommend and inexpensive trailer for 2 dirt bikes ?
JD G harbor freight has fold up trailers for around 300 dollars
CC man, the extra weight is a non issue. The tongue weight of a hitch carrier with a bike on it is no more than carrying a 4-5k trailer load. Trucks are literally designed to do double or even triple that.
The Curt class 3 hitch I installed on my SUV is only rated 350 lbs for the tongue weight. Also, I could not even install one of the hitch bolts to the frame because the thread on the frame had rusted through. Your hitch strength is only as good as the mounting on your frame and the integrity of your frame. A hitch is simply attached to your frame with bolts. No way in hell I would trust a hitch carrier on vehicles up north where salt is put on the road in the winter. Also, I know a few dudes who had their back window busted out from the handlebar slamming on the back window.
CycleCruza The window thing for sure. I just meant, the weight is no problem if you have a real truck. If you were planning on using a hitch carrier, you wouldn’t get a class 3 hitch. They sometimes don’t make class 4s for smaller vehicles like suvs or perhaps your BO van, but again if you have a truck, it’s not really an issue. As for the rust tho, I mean I’ll still carry a 5k trailer with a truck with some rust on it, so long as its not structural, which would be some serious rust. But maybe that’s just me 🤷♀️
@@shielasimpleton7346 Like I said, your hitch is only as good as the connection to the frame and the integrity of the frame, no matter what tongue rating the hitch is.
would any of u recommend a hitch carrier for a 125 pit bike
Hey CycleCruza, one thing those of us that live down South always do when we buy used cars is look at the frame to see how rusty it is. That rust is a result of all the salt and brine they use on the roads in wintertime to keep ice from forming. Down south, we don't really have to worry about that, so our vehicles always have good looking frames for much longer.
Make sure the hitch tongue weight rating is sufficient for you bike and find a hack to prevent the handlebar from bashing your back window which is quite common, Also, you need to make sure the tail lights are visible, if not add some dot tail lights on the carrier and re-locate the plate to avoid cops ticketing you.
Ive got a triumph explorer 1200 think its to heavy for one 🙄
do they have any turns in OH?
One day I saw rv with a gold wing at a back, but that one looked it had hydraulic hitch carrier. But valid points man, I never had too much trust in those carriers for sport bikes but for light dirtbike you should be ok. The reason ppl smash windshield is bc when they take bike off they open left tie down and suspension sends bike straights to a windshield. Ask me how I know lol
Why do you ride with your left blinker on?
Just watched a video on a Joe hauler out California and they seem to be a good product. If your truck is all rusted out time to get a new truck.
What is your trailer hitch hooked up to? So your still towing your trailer with the hitch that is attached to your car?
You should see the stress demands travel trailers place on hitches. They are designed for that and with a safety factor. My Suburban 2500 has 900# on the hitch when my 33' trailer is connected. I would trust it with 450# without a weight distribution hitch. I don't know that I would try to get a sport bike all the way up to the hitch, but a little dual-sport would be doable.
HOA don't play project vehicles have to be in the garage in my neighborhood.
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"Most" bikes are under 600 pounds wet and "most" of the big 3 brand pickups have a tongue rating at or over 1k lbs. Not an issue unless you're moving a full dressed HD. P.S. I have a '17 chevy 1500 moved an fz09 many times no issues at all. Also moved a 2006 Vmax 4 times about 100mi round trip each time. Never had an issue.
Hey, i saw your vest, check out the Hit Air, its the one i have. It has a larger CO2 container which fills a larger diameter tube in the event you crash, i know alot of guys at the track that swear by them.
Can anybody recommend a good hitch carrier brand?
They’re fine just need to make sure your hitch is welded to the frame not the bumper and may also need a reinforcement weld done. Joe Haulers are great. Rocking mine for years. Many miles on it.
all good points. thank you
How do you not get stopped by the cops for a obstructed number plate, tail lights, etc and plus that gives cops, probable-cause to stop you ?
I have a 21 Tundra with a class 3 hitch, and a 1k rated hitch hauler custom welded together. My bike and hitch hauler together never exceed my tongue weight. Its been an awesome thing to have. Just roll on, roll off. But a trailer would be nice too. Id take either. I drive in the south where salt is not an issues.
how's over a bump and hitch snaps
Then it's a pretty crappy hitch
What state are you in? Frames don't rust like that in California.
Was thinking this is a great solution for an emergency tow back home, which would be my use for it. A tow is 200 bucks alone. Uhaul is the cheapest option if you happen to break down when they're open.
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I live in Ohio, and I've not had a rust issue. I spray Fluid Film twice a year on my undercarriage and frame, and wash off my chassis once a week during winter. If you have a problem with rust, a trailer is going to be just as dicey as a hitch carrier.
Since the demise of the Evolution engine, has Harley included these in the purchase?
I think for dirt bikes or scooters it’s fine and I know hundreds of dirt bike riders that use the hitch Mount carriers with years of trouble free and they use them almost every weekend, I would not haul a street bike though
When using a carrier, make sure to put the bike in gear once its in position. This will keep it from rolling, and potentially coming loose.
not all heroes wear capes
Gave you a shout out in my last video because I purchased the mesh jacket you got.
I agree.... But 2k for a fold up trailer i can only use for my bike. I think for that price I'd get ramps for getting it into my truck or by a small enclosed trailer i could get multiple uses out of. Good video... but for a small trailer like yours 2k is way to high. I mean its a cool lil trailer i like the compact ability for storage but not that much... 😆
If you think 2k is high, my trailer is actually a Kendon trailer knock-off, the same trailer made by Kendon costs $3200 new!! The reason people like me get a fold-up trailer is because it takes up little space and can be stored in the garage. It's a pita to have a big enclosed trailer sitting in the driveway and most HOA's don't allow them (mine does not).
@@CycleCruza his point was that you can get a trailer, even a fold-up trailer, for less than $1,000
And one that can be used for more than just hauling a motorcycle
for 30 dollars a day, uhaul has my trailer any time I need it.
@@butteredbiskit3497 UHAUL trailers suck and you have to pick them up and take them back with an inspection. It's much nicer owning your own.
@CycleCruza like you said about storage and I'll add tags and stickers and insurance. all that hassle I'll just rent. plus I for one dont need a trailer but maybe once a year like most. If I had to haul some bike around, a van is the best way to haul some bikes.
Thanks for the advice
I’m only moving a 110 so do you think that would be good and I don’t live anywhere that they put salt on the roads
It's fine. Check the maximum tounge and payload raiting of your vehicle and if the bike and carrier weight less you will be fine.
Even a small car like a civic could handle a 110
I had a 2016 camaro ss wanting to put my sons ttr110 on a hitch mount, unfortunately the combined weight of the hitch mount carrier and the light bike exceeded the Camaros puny tongue weight
I have no idea how, or WHY, but for like the 3rd time now I got unsubscribed and was not aware! WTH?
Anyway, GREAT video as I am now looking into these options. Also, CONGRATS on the Aprilia ! I totally missed that whole event. That is one AWESOME bike dude!
As an Engineer: You sound drunk or ridiculous. As a Regular Dude, I'm with you all the way. This video grabbed me because I actually was doing some Chemistry one time and ended up with a leftover bag of Road Salts that had a bunch of Calcium Acetate and was for Canadian Roads and I left it in the back of an un-used F150 for about one year. When I checked on it the entire bed of the interior was nothing but rust. The Fuel Tank turned to shit and I had to replace it with a layer of rust on the entire exterior of the Frame from front to back. Not cool for your eyes if you catch my meaning. Excellent review and opinion and nice scenery too.
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Do u have any video on tie down motorcycle on trailer
I did a review on my stand up trailer, I believe I covered the straps : ua-cam.com/video/oU52hbT-i4w/v-deo.html
If not, I will be doing a long term review on my trailer and will show how to properly strap down your bike.
Wow, all I heard was the most random shit you could think of on why not to get it, without even looking into what a hitch can hold or anything. Just a bunch of talk about rust. I've pulled crazy heavy trailers with the most rusty looking trucks and never had an issue. I'd buy one of these if I need a cheaper way to transport my bike. Throw on some magnet brake lights if need be and good to go..
his talking shit really he is
In california vehicles with trailers are restricted to 55mph. So it takes an extra 2 hours to get to any track for a track day. The carrier saves tons of time.
how rusty are your cars?
which pick up truck do you think is the best for a motorcycle owner
Any truck not sitting up high.
Something with an 8ft bed so that you can fit most bikes in the bed with the tailgate closed
This was no safety problem more of randomness, personal option, and user error. You totally just talked me into getting one.
I think the WR250R would be ok on the back. Def no Harleys though...
I did over 1000 miles with a Honda Rebel on a hitch carrier. It did great, and never moved.
This guy missed the biggest reason against a hitch mount motorcycle carrier which is torque multiplication. Normal hitches do not extend very far.
A motorcycle carrier is further out from the vehicle mount point causing more rotational torque to be applied to the hitch.
Example: A regular ball hitch that sticks out about 1ft is rated for 500lbs. (I know 1 foot is a bit much, but it makes math easy)
If a motorcycle carrier is 1ft further out, the weight of the bike is doubled. So a 400lb bike would apply 800lbs to the hitch.
The only part I Gree with is maybe having problems with the visibility of the tail lights.
Bro you must live in a state where it snows and they spread salt on the road. I live in California and the undercarriage of cars stay solid.
The bars hitting the back of the vehicle was always my concern with those hitch carriers, aside from having to explain to the police why my bike is on the hood of the car traveling behind me.
I know three dudes off the top of my head that had back windows busted out because of a hitch carrier.
Your bike could always fall off your trailer too if it isn’t strapped down correctly.
That happens because of improper tie down. People aren't tightening them down tight enough, nor in good locations. People forget that the suspension of the bike will compress while you're towing it. If not strapped down properly, it will lead to the bike moving a significant amount, enough to where it hits your back window or tailgate, or even possibly falls off the hitch carrier. You only need 2 straps. You can use more if that makes you feel better, but two is all you need. Get a fork saver in the color of your choosing, install over front wheel, and strap down nice and tight. Make sure you put the bike in gear at least. Putting it in gear keeps the bike from rolling around. That's all you need.
I just bought one of these to haul around my 1985 xj700. It has a 600 lb capacity and the bike weighs maybe 480. The hitch I installed on my f250 has a 1000 lb toungue weight capacity so all in all I'm in spec. Now, if I had a nice bike I wouldnt use a hitch carrier either. At least not this one. My xj700 is a beater that already had scratches and dings. It's a bitch to load by yourself for probably any bike heavier than an average dirt bike. I've already broken the mirror off the first time I went to use it because I lost my balance. Again, beater bike, not really too concerned, especially since the bike is insured for more than it's worth. There are far superior hitch carrier designs out there, with a substantial price tag but it all depends on your investment in the bike. I've seen some custom made hitch carriers built so heavily it could handle two gold wings. It's just a matter of finding the proper application to match your needs.
I have one for my E-scooter just a secondary vehicle so I don’t have to take a shuttle to my construction site. Some job sites require me to park maybe 1-2 miles away and shuttle with other trades I’d rather ignore the wait time and have another means to travel from parking to site
I think there's a huge oversight on your part. If you can tow a trailer you can tow a bike carrier on the back. There's no way a whole trailer is less stressful than a carrier.
Tampa, Florida. No rust down here so the carrier sounds okay to me. So, I need two people to load? No problem. I’m getting one soon.
I live in Texas, and I've been using a hitch ramp for 12 years with no problem. I use my F150, and my wife's mini van to carry it.
What about a smaller Yamaha Zumba scooter?
so you trust the same hitch that you use to put the tailer on . same weight, and remember the trailer pulls against the frame. same thing just opposite direction
MotoTote, bad ass. A little pricey, but looks nice and the hitch bolt that eliminates the sway works great.
Ive done it many times with a 250 pound dirt bike but I wouldn't trust a 400+ pound street bike. I would use at least 4 tie downs too
humzilla707 I use one with a 260 pound bike. I honestly would not go higher than 300 pounds.
If you have a vehicle is so badley rusted that a hitch carrier will damage it when loaded, your vehicle is not road-worthy in the first place and adding a motorcycle carrier to it is the least of your problems!
damn you need a muffler to really experience that v4
I'm not sure about these bike carriers.. .. the problem that I have seen is that the bike can sway back and forth, possibly damaging your vehicle... There must be a way to get it strapped down... The ones sold at harbor freight don't even have directions...! But I believe that there's a good one available somewhere.. but I haven't seen it yet... Thanks for sharing.. Robert Jr NJ here XR 650 owner myself here
Some are better than others. I would not even think of buying a hitch carrier at HF. lol Those are chinese specials. I did buy a bi-fold ramp at HF and I love it. Some stuff is good at HF, but would never trust their hitch carrier.
For those in or out of the rust belt if your receiver cant handle the direct weight of a sport bike or enduro you probably also shouldn't be towing a trailer and introducing something with wheels that has the potential to go a lot farther down a rode with less resistance and cause just as much damage.
i do not live in the rust belt but i feel very sorry for your vehicles.
just my 2 cents, love the videos don't stop
Thanks for info PychoBiker
Huh at first I was thinking ah here we go but you provided tons of really great points and even stated which applications this would be actually useful for... Really cool stuff, appreciate the video CC!
When you put a trailer on and hit the breaks it’s all pushes forward and puts weight on the hitch so if your rusty it’s the same problem.