Great review! I had that carrier years back and IMO what they need is two hooks for strapping the front of the bike down also. Just using the foot pegs was too sketchy so i looped some tie downs around the carrier frame. I am currently using the "All Jacked Up Switch Hauler" from RM ATV and i am much happier. The overall design and quality control is far superior.
Great review. I had the same experience with the moto jack rack as you. Bought the heavy duty version as well ,had to buy longer bolts, plastic skids peeled off first time use plus the bottle jack leaks. Paint sucks too. But the moto jack is a solid performer when set up right. Tip. Drill hole thru nylock nut and bolt after assembly and add a cotter pin. with use the nylock nuts will loosen.
Fantastic review! I have a Black Widow on a Toyota Sienna mini van and it sits lower than I would like. This could solve my problem. Thanks for posting.
I have been using the moto Jack rack for 20 years now logged over 15000 miles at least never one problem mine did not come with the strips on the platform i would just take them off and not worry about it, the carrier is going to get scratched does not effect the use one bit.The best two things about the moto jack rack are the pocket the top of the jack fits into so it can't slip out and the screw that tightens it against the hitch you still can use a hitch lock in the pin hole i have been all up and down the east coast and now the last 10 years in montana and about 6 other states out west if i am going riding by myself i use the MJR great product
Nice job making it work! Enjoyed the trial and error and details. Considering grabbin one of these and I wouldnt mind a little modding to make it flush I hate the scrape too. Last thing you want is to be loading out after an exhausting day and have that shit binding up.
You did good in changing the bolt for longer one .The tread on a bolt should never be in the hole on moving parts the collar on the bolt is for that .The tread will make a saw action and make the holes bigger .Good job Sorry for the writing am French
I recently ordered a double. It took two months to get and I found issues with much of the fit and finish. I bought 12 additional washers 4 bolts two of longer length than supplied and had to redrill the stop pin hole that keeps the hitch from lowering because they weren't even close to lining up so the pin could not pass through the first lowering arm into the receiver hitch. The paint finish was like a child painted it and the plastic strips on the base all but one fell off. All in all its a great way to haul two bikes but my confidence in it not snapping a bolt would be a 3 on a 1-10 scale. time will tell. For a single, the MX hauler which I own is hands down light years better build. Unfortunately, they don't make a double. $799 price tag way too high for the quality received.
My long term experience isn’t as great as i had expected either. The plastic glued covers on the platform are completely off now and won’t come off when unloading or loading. Great idea and concept but it still needs work unfortunately.
I like everything about these lift haulers except I'm concerned if jack fails. Then what? What if you break peg while riding? Would like to hear from some people that have experience with these haulers.
Assume that once this mounted on your truck, you cannot lower the tailgate. Would have to take bike off, then remove the rack so tailgate can open. True? I wonder if I can get the exact measurements of the parts so I can measure it for my truck.
I haven’t measured it but 1500’s in general sit lower than 2500’s so my trucks 4” lift is same as your 6.5” lift typically. Your Probably on 35’s like I am. So the 2” drop version of this should be fine on flat ground but it’ll be close. If you throw the rear tires in the gutter in front of your driveway, it clears for days
At that price you have every right to be very critical of the parts, design, and workmanship. They don't even mention the load rating which is critical for any of these hitch carriers.
Hey great carrier, is there any chance you could kindly share the specs with me? As I would like to build one for myself (unfortunately in Uruguay we don’t have that)
Danger attention😢 I seen two videos today it's April 2024. 2,, hitches BROK OFF!!!!😢 the truck😢😢😢hitch motorcycle hauler like this one in the video and one of the other type like Harbor Freight, or ramp style motorcycle rear hitch receiver hauler! and they both busted off the truck and fell on the road😢😢😢 motorcycles fell.😮 the square stock snaps right off... you've got to reinforce this stuff!!,, my suggestion is build a three-point ramp style receiver hitch motorcycle hauler where you have the receiver hitch in the middle and then you have a little version receiver on the left side of the bumper and on the right side of the bumper from underneath the frame or whatever where you can extend a pipe or a small square stock underneath each side of the motorcycle hauler and that would stop all movement and make it super strong
I just put mine together. Mines not the heavy duty model. I think it said that the HD model doesn’t use inside washers. Don’t understand why?? It’s not powder coat it’s very thin paint. I see bare metal in several places on mine. I sent them a email about cheap ass rattle can paint!! For the price of 500.00. I’m disappointed. I’m going to put some pop rivets in the rubber pads after your saying the rubber strips aren’t secured good at all. I waited almost 3 months for mine. I like the design though. I have to ramp up carriers. This will be easier for a 67 year old. I’d rather spend energy on riding than loading. More issues. Van doors hit it before they open. A pickup tailgate would hit before its down. I’m going to have a welder add a piece to move it back in the reciever. No thought at all by their design department. !!! Thanks
ANGEL If it’s 450lbs or under, i’m sure it would. Also would consider things like peg spacing as well since the cruiser couldn’t be much wider than a dirt bike. 🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽
Seriously. I really wish the video didn't pan out that way. I even said up front I'd be doing a video before I purchased it and asked them to make things right...
Glued it again; fell off again. Then wrapped it using hose clamps and header wrap. Probably not the best idea either lol. Didn’t find the best solution & sold it shortly after I’d think maybe drilling a few holes into it and into the unit itself and running some rivets
Watch out😢😢😢 warning the same hitch busted off at the square stock at the weld with the same style of motorcycle hauler off-road on a bumpy road but he was going slow snapped right off and then a Harbor Freight style ramp the square stock busted it right off also seen two videos today
Sounds like the manufacture got lazy and could have caused a serious accident. The fact that those bolts weren’t long enough to reach the nylon in the nuts is extremely dangerous. Good on you for noticing and fixing the issue and really bad on the guy who sent that out.
I don't think they messed up, I think this dude just assembled it wrong. If they sent it with that many things wrong then they should be notified and have either replacement parts sent or just replace the whole thing. But like I said, I think this is all user error.
First off, nope. Instructions showed for a NON HD model. Thinner metal and appropriate amount of washers. I DID NOT get the correct instructions. After installation of the washers as they recommended. Metal still binded up & new powder coat flaked off. I wanted to take it easy on this but eh. For a simple metal product and how much it binded up and everything. I’d never buy again. This could easily be made better
I just got the HD version, Skid pad fell off when I took it out of the box, the welded bolts on the main lower arms are crooked as hell, and also the holes on the main lower arms do not and will not line up with the safety pin hole on the hitch arm deal They are a bout 1/2" in the wrong place no matter what I do not sure if they sent me the wrong parts or what happened . Oh and also I didn't get the gas can mount I ordered(but apparently its coming soon). /sigh. Also, you only need 10 washers for the HD version according to the instructions they only go on the inside, but that's the least of my problems........
@@americanduramax Unless I'm doing something wrong but I don't see how I could be. I think maybe they gave me the wrong lower arms? (photos are just to show the holes wont line up I know thats not the way they go but still the holes don't line up ) Curious why your HD Patriot one has a lower bracket where the lower arms mount to? i.imgur.com/v1UD5re.jpg i.imgur.com/b9P3a3v.jpg
@@Jacksquatch69 Wow yeah they should line up perfect. Are the upper and lower arms the same thickness? I remember mine on the HD series was the same thickness. Otherwise if they’re different then it’s definitely the wrong arms
@@americanduramax Yea they are all the same thickness and looks like everything fits together fine other than the holes for the lock pin are impossible to line up. And by the pictures/instructions and eyeballing the holes on the hitch frame part look fine. So I'm guessing the holes in the lower arms were drilled/welded in the wrong place. ( and I guess no one tested or measured anything before shipping it :(
It definitely looks like quality is not in check over there, and website photos are inaccurate. They need to get their shit together send out the proper hardware.
I was very nervous putting my brand new beach cruiser on this rack. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxG6JIgwJhur8_Rg8UeQ3EmePzi_wSncL8 But after reading many reviews I decided to get this one and take a chance. When arrived it was very simple to adjust and put together. I also added spike tape over the metal hooks before securing and tightening the straps, and no scratches. I also purchased the top bar made by the same company so that my cruiser sits straight on the rack without having to turn upside down. Extra bungee cords are used to secure the front wheel from flapping and even piece of mind knowing your bike is secure. Definitely recommend...
@@americanduramax Dude you have no idea how glad I am you did this review! I just called last week to place an order but got tied up so I didn't. Having watched your review and seeing what people are experiencing with this product it seems tough to buy at their price point. Not to mention the HD is now being sold at $499. Crazy! Saw this just in time. The Switch Hauler on RMATV was my first choice anyway. Appreciate your input and honest feedback.
Thanks for biting the bullet for us and showing how OVER PRICED of a product this is, I’d pick this up for 350-400$ MAX but 700 with shipping not happening.
Fucking junk.... I had one of these in 2007. Glad to see they didn't fix any of the bullshit issues they had when they made them 13 years ago... Way too much money to have to re engineer their poor design...
Great video. Quality, detailed review. Thanks. I wish more people knew how to cover a product like this.
Tim Paddy I appreciate the feedback! I took a lot of time to make this video. I appreciate it!
Great review! I had that carrier years back and IMO what they need is two hooks for strapping the front of the bike down also. Just using the foot pegs was too sketchy so i looped some tie downs around the carrier frame.
I am currently using the "All Jacked Up Switch Hauler" from RM ATV and i am much happier. The overall design and quality control is far superior.
I still have some adjustments to do on my rack. Definitely gotta look at that & see what it looks like!
Great review. I had the same experience with the moto jack rack as you. Bought the heavy duty version as well ,had to buy longer bolts, plastic skids peeled off first time use plus the bottle jack leaks. Paint sucks too. But the moto jack is a solid performer when set up right. Tip. Drill hole thru nylock nut and bolt after assembly and add a cotter pin. with use the nylock nuts will loosen.
Nice! I’ll have to do that
Fantastic review! I have a Black Widow on a Toyota Sienna mini van and it sits lower than I would like. This could solve my problem. Thanks for posting.
Michael Supple Of Course! Glad it helped!
I have been using the moto Jack rack for 20 years now logged over 15000 miles at least never one problem mine did not come with the strips on the platform i would just take them off and not worry about it, the carrier is going to get scratched does not effect the use one bit.The best two things about the moto jack rack are the pocket the top of the jack fits into so it can't slip out and the screw that tightens it against the hitch you still can use a hitch lock in the pin hole i have been all up and down the east coast and now the last 10 years in montana and about 6 other states out west if i am going riding by myself i use the MJR great product
Glad to hear that for sure. i wanted to like it.
Great video! Very thorough. I’ll be ordering mine soon thanks to your review.. but maybe with an extra rubber strip and gorilla glue.
Haha yeah great idea
Nice job making it work! Enjoyed the trial and error and details. Considering grabbin one of these and I wouldnt mind a little modding to make it flush I hate the scrape too. Last thing you want is to be loading out after an exhausting day and have that shit binding up.
Exactly!! Or don’t want it to scratch all that nice paint off! But if you built off this platform, it would be cool!
MotoJackRack should hire you to troubleshoot quality control!!!
You did good in changing the bolt for longer one .The tread on a bolt should never be in the hole on moving parts the collar on the bolt is for that .The tread will make a saw action and make the holes bigger .Good job
Sorry for the writing am French
Thank you! I appreciate it! , the design definitely didn’t seem right
I recently ordered a double. It took two months to get and I found issues with much of the fit and finish. I bought 12 additional washers 4 bolts two of longer length than supplied and had to redrill the stop pin hole that keeps the hitch from lowering because they weren't even close to lining up so the pin could not pass through the first lowering arm into the receiver hitch. The paint finish was like a child painted it and the plastic strips on the base all but one fell off. All in all its a great way to haul two bikes but my confidence in it not snapping a bolt would be a 3 on a 1-10 scale. time will tell. For a single, the MX hauler which I own is hands down light years better build. Unfortunately, they don't make a double. $799 price tag way too high for the quality received.
My long term experience isn’t as great as i had expected either. The plastic glued covers on the platform are completely off now and won’t come off when unloading or loading. Great idea and concept but it still needs work unfortunately.
Could you give me the lengths of all the blues pieces? Looks like a nice carrier.
I got an Add A Bike carrier and it so easy to load and unload..
I have a drz400, after watching you struggle...im just gkung to build my own and use the bottle jack from my car. Wish me luck:)
Haha I bet it'll be great lol
What is ball weight for hich
Why did you keep it with all the issues ?
Why did you not send it back...
Great great video. Very informative. Did you do a part 2 or follow up video
I wish but i sold it
Reversing the bottom two plates, would have been a good place to start. Hope it’s working out.
Sold it shortly after this video buddy
I like everything about these lift haulers except I'm concerned if jack fails. Then what? What if you break peg while riding? Would like to hear from some people that have experience with these haulers.
Thats true. Never thought about that!!
Assume that once this mounted on your truck, you cannot lower the tailgate. Would have to take bike off, then remove the rack so tailgate can open. True? I wonder if I can get the exact measurements of the parts so I can measure it for my truck.
I don’t own this anymore. I can tell you that you definitely cannot open the tailgate with the bike mounted
What’s the hitch height on your truck I have a ram 1500 with a 6in lift . Wondering if it goes low enough to get bike on it . Thanks
I haven’t measured it but 1500’s in general sit lower than 2500’s so my trucks 4” lift is same as your 6.5” lift typically. Your Probably on 35’s like I am. So the 2” drop version of this should be fine on flat ground but it’ll be close.
If you throw the rear tires in the gutter in front of your driveway, it clears for days
At that price you have every right to be very critical of the parts, design, and workmanship. They don't even mention the load rating which is critical for any of these hitch carriers.
Yes, and I also heard the price has almost doubled since making this video. I’m glad it’s helped so many people on making a decision.
Hey great carrier, is there any chance you could kindly share the specs with me? As I would like to build one for myself (unfortunately in Uruguay we don’t have that)
Didn’t see this till now, sorry buddy. Sold this a while back so i unfortunately don’t have the specs
can you open your truck bed when it is lowered and the dirtbike is off?
Yessir! No problem when it’s like that with no bike
Is that a 2.5 inch to 2 inch adaptor on your hitch? Any issue with the reducer wobbling?
nope; the bolt was able to keep the wobbling down with or without the reducer (i used on multiple trucks with 2.5 and 2 reciever)
Danger attention😢 I seen two videos today it's April 2024. 2,, hitches BROK OFF!!!!😢 the truck😢😢😢hitch motorcycle hauler like this one in the video and one of the other type like Harbor Freight, or ramp style motorcycle rear hitch receiver hauler! and they both busted off the truck and fell on the road😢😢😢 motorcycles fell.😮 the square stock snaps right off... you've got to reinforce this stuff!!,, my suggestion is build a three-point ramp style receiver hitch motorcycle hauler where you have the receiver hitch in the middle and then you have a little version receiver on the left side of the bumper and on the right side of the bumper from underneath the frame or whatever where you can extend a pipe or a small square stock underneath each side of the motorcycle hauler and that would stop all movement and make it super strong
Can you lower the tailgate with the bikes still attached to the rack?
Nope, no room to do that at all
Cost of the HD version in this video at 9:25 is $425. Current price on the website is now $725. Ouch....
Wow that’s a lot for what it is 😢
Great review, thanks a lot! Do you still own the MotoJack Rack? I am interested in some details...
Sorry buddy, i sold it about a year or more ago
What are you using now?
I just put mine together. Mines not the heavy duty model. I think it said that the HD model doesn’t use inside washers. Don’t understand why?? It’s not powder coat it’s very thin paint. I see bare metal in several places on mine. I sent them a email about cheap ass rattle can paint!! For the price of 500.00. I’m disappointed. I’m going to put some pop rivets in the rubber pads after your saying the rubber strips aren’t secured good at all. I waited almost 3 months for mine. I like the design though. I have to ramp up carriers. This will be easier for a 67 year old. I’d rather spend energy on riding than loading. More issues. Van doors hit it before they open. A pickup tailgate would hit before its down. I’m going to have a welder add a piece to move it back in the reciever. No thought at all by their design department. !!! Thanks
Seriously! Yeah they really bombed it on this one for sure
This would be better if the bike could somehow stand vertically. I hate having my wheels stick out the side of the vehicle.
Yeah that’s not a bad idea
Very nice ... would that work for a regular cruiser bike - H-D ? woot woot 👍🏼🇺🇸
ANGEL If it’s 450lbs or under, i’m sure it would. Also would consider things like peg spacing as well since the cruiser couldn’t be much wider than a dirt bike. 🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽
AMERICANDURAMAX gotcha ... thanks 👍🏼🇺🇸
yea thanks bro..... Id be pissed to spend that money and find missing parts and it not working great
Seriously. I really wish the video didn't pan out that way. I even said up front I'd be doing a video before I purchased it and asked them to make things right...
Whatd you end up doing about the plastic grip thing? Mine just feel off.
Glued it again; fell off again. Then wrapped it using hose clamps and header wrap. Probably not the best idea either lol. Didn’t find the best solution & sold it shortly after
I’d think maybe drilling a few holes into it and into the unit itself and running some rivets
What size lift and tires on your truck ? Wondering how low this thing will go.
35”’tires and 1” rear lift
@@americanduramax thanks
Hey mate no disrespect but the one you got are prone to snapping on the verticle piece behind the jack ,keep an eye on the welds 👍🍀
Thanks Cliff! I actually sold this shortly after this video because i was so frustrated with it
@@americanduramax what moto rack do you use now?
Watch out😢😢😢 warning the same hitch busted off at the square stock at the weld with the same style of motorcycle hauler off-road on a bumpy road but he was going slow snapped right off and then a Harbor Freight style ramp the square stock busted it right off also seen two videos today
Oh man! Thats scary! I sold mine just shortly after the video
Harbor Freight style ramp - What's that half to do with this video?
Sounds like the manufacture got lazy and could have caused a serious accident. The fact that those bolts weren’t long enough to reach the nylon in the nuts is extremely dangerous. Good on you for noticing and fixing the issue and really bad on the guy who sent that out.
Thanks man. That’s exactly my thinking on it. Has so much potential to be a good product too but it was left unfinished
Additional washers in the wrong place, appears to have caused the bolts to be short. Bottom outer plates in wrong location, didn’t help.
I don't think they messed up, I think this dude just assembled it wrong.
If they sent it with that many things wrong then they should be notified and have either replacement parts sent or just replace the whole thing. But like I said, I think this is all user error.
The instructions clearly state how many washers are needed and where they go
First off, nope. Instructions showed for a NON HD model. Thinner metal and appropriate amount of washers. I DID NOT get the correct instructions.
After installation of the washers as they recommended. Metal still binded up & new powder coat flaked off.
I wanted to take it easy on this but eh. For a simple metal product and how much it binded up and everything. I’d never buy again. This could easily be made better
What about driving down on ruff dirt road. Well you loose your dirt bike.
Doubt you’d lose the dirt bike at all. Once everything is tight, it’s very sturdy. I will give it that
Tem como a gente pegar o esquema ou as medidas ????
sorry.
This or ultimate Mx hauler?
MX hauler IMO
How weight can it handle??
I believe that info’s on their website. Any dirt bike will work. Streetbikes or anything larger likely will not
Why buy things that you gotta rebuild
Didn’t know before hand
I just got the HD version, Skid pad fell off when I took it out of the box, the welded bolts on the main lower arms are crooked as hell, and also the holes on the main lower arms do not and will not line up with the safety pin hole on the hitch arm deal
They are a bout 1/2" in the wrong place no matter what I do not sure if they sent me the wrong parts or what happened .
Oh and also I didn't get the gas can mount I ordered(but apparently its coming soon). /sigh. Also, you only need 10 washers for the HD version according to the instructions they only go on the inside, but that's the least of my problems........
YIKES!!!! That’s crazy man.... i’m sorry to hear that. The way this video has turned out makes me want to build these on my own!!
@@americanduramax Unless I'm doing something wrong but I don't see how I could be. I think maybe they gave me the wrong lower arms? (photos are just to show the holes wont line up I know thats not the way they go but still the holes don't line up
) Curious why your HD Patriot one has a lower bracket where the lower arms mount to? i.imgur.com/v1UD5re.jpg i.imgur.com/b9P3a3v.jpg
@@Jacksquatch69 Wow yeah they should line up perfect. Are the upper and lower arms the same thickness? I remember mine on the HD series was the same thickness. Otherwise if they’re different then it’s definitely the wrong arms
@@americanduramax I probably should have just got the chinesium one from Rockymountainatv
@@americanduramax Yea they are all the same thickness and looks like everything fits together fine other than the holes for the lock pin are impossible to line up. And by the pictures/instructions and eyeballing the holes on the hitch frame part look fine. So I'm guessing the holes in the lower arms were drilled/welded in the wrong place. ( and I guess no one tested or measured anything before shipping it :(
best fuckin review ever! Cheers
#dirtbikesurvivorman
Haha thanks buddy!!!!!
went to buy it, now they are near $900
Is it worth it. Would you buy again?
I wouldn’t personally
@@americanduramax what would you buy instead?
@@archiepunk777 I considered making one after watching this video lol. Nothing on the market that’s worth it imo
Bro I enjoyed the video. Lol. Damn. Lmao.
Lol thanks!
It definitely looks like quality is not in check over there, and website photos are inaccurate. They need to get their shit together send out the proper hardware.
Exactly my thoughts, the way they want it to go up & down without washers just eats at the paint right away & everything else
Why you didn't show how the bike is fixed to the rack, what are those chrome tbars used for? Lots of whining , more details was needed
Good to know
Damn for over $500 i think i will just build my own. i'll make a build video too.
Haha right on! I agree
did you make one?
I’m tired of getting the Tijuana special everywhere now.
I agree; sucks. Bring back American Quality
the same jack is now 650 dollars, literally double the price
Is that thing made in China?
I don’t even think the Chinese would make it like this lol
I was very nervous putting my brand new beach cruiser on this rack. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxG6JIgwJhur8_Rg8UeQ3EmePzi_wSncL8 But after reading many reviews I decided to get this one and take a chance. When arrived it was very simple to adjust and put together. I also added spike tape over the metal hooks before securing and tightening the straps, and no scratches. I also purchased the top bar made by the same company so that my cruiser sits straight on the rack without having to turn upside down. Extra bungee cords are used to secure the front wheel from flapping and even piece of mind knowing your bike is secure. Definitely recommend...
So missing hardware, and supplied hardware not sufficient. For the price that’s really disappointing.
Yup! Putting it up for sale now
@@americanduramax Dude you have no idea how glad I am you did this review! I just called last week to place an order but got tied up so I didn't. Having watched your review and seeing what people are experiencing with this product it seems tough to buy at their price point. Not to mention the HD is now being sold at $499. Crazy! Saw this just in time. The Switch Hauler on RMATV was my first choice anyway. Appreciate your input and honest feedback.
400 bucks! What a joke they need to get their act together
Watching in 2024 and this thing has gone from $375 to $650. Inflation sucks.
Agreed! And i’m not making double the income from the timing of this video either. Inflation is BS
Thanks for biting the bullet for us and showing how OVER PRICED of a product this is, I’d pick this up for 350-400$ MAX but 700 with shipping not happening.
I couldn’t agree more! You’re welcome
Made in China?
It looks like you’d be better off making one instead of buying this half thought out device
J
Yessir
U should have demonstrated how it mounts smh
Fucking junk.... I had one of these in 2007. Glad to see they didn't fix any of the bullshit issues they had when they made them 13 years ago... Way too much money to have to re engineer their poor design...
Yeah they were out of business for several years in between that time too.
400$ and you have to go buy shit to modify it? Wont be buying one of these stupid things
Yeah I expected more of a finished product for the money