Well I was talking especially about British unis. And as far as I'm concerned for high schools the criteria can also vary from school to school, from region to region, and from course to course. :)
As a teacher myself, I can testify that this is not surprising at all. It's usually the biggest troublemakers who turn out to have the softest emotional underbelly. To this day, I receive more enthusiastic visits from former troublemakers than I do from those who were well-behaved and excelled academically.
I am not Chinese, but I have studied there for 6 years (1999-2006). I found the "Chinese School" in this video is too soft. You have no idea how much pressure student in Chinese school get.
thats not the school, its the culture, the culture not to lose out, thats the pressure which cannot be duplicated in a britain school in such short time frame
Huh really? Uh...well, that’s not very good. Photosynthesis is one of the first things u learn in science and they’re 13 so Secondary 1. I’m just going to assume they’re learning the chemical equation.
I believe that if the students on the Chinese side had been a bit more respectful and obedient from the beginning instead of being intentionally rebellious, they could have scored even higher on all three exams with higher scores, although the Chinese side did beat the british side on all three exams.
Yes, I agree. But that would have involved every student reinventing themselves just overnight to please a teacher of which they know nothing about. It would have also been a great change within the social hierarchy in the class in general. Kids are nice on an individual basis to teachers. But in a group, if not contained, will drive the teacher crazy. I've seen it happen countless times. Kids are evil...
Things would have gone better had the teachers been allowed to use the Chinese Teaching Stick. It cheaply and quickly transforms a rebellious troublemaker into a student eager to learn.
You need to calm the hell down. Disciplining a teenager that is being disrespectful by hitting them with a cane is different to hitting a helpless child. If the cane was an option in schools, students wouldn't even have to get hit with it to behave better, it could act as a deterrent. I said maybe bring back the cane anyway, I wasn't even being serious. I dont care if children are hit in school or not but students do need to become a lot more respectful to their teachers. You need to learn some manners, you little cussy mouth.
I see a lot of comments saying learning a lot at school will make kids stop thinking. Learning a lot does not mean losing individual thinking. Instead, learning should help thinking more! You have to know more to think more. If you know nothing, what can you think?
I mean ironically enough if you don’t know something, then the way you might learn it all by your self may be completely new and be revolutionary, compared to just learning the “normal way” but I get what your trying to say
Kids need to form a great studying habit , a solid foundation and keep discipline when they are at young age. And the education should focus on creativity and personality development when they grow up.Because the first step away and you will never back to the right way. Before our values become stable, we need to be disciplined, otherwise, it is easy to get into the wrong way.
Actually studies have shown that out of class studying does not improve your chances of learning the information. If you can't learn it in class what is the point of teaching yourself at home. Finland is the best example of this. They have the best test scores and they never receive any homework. And discipline can only go so far. Many jobs in America are actually moving away from the old school style of business. Sitting at a desk for hours on end lowers productivity and increases stress levels . And because of this many students that have only been taught old school business model, after college have a hard time dealing with the unpredictability of the working world.
Shannon Hensley Lower productivity in America is just because they are lazy, most of the homeless people also have great stress levels without sitting at a desk.China is developing so fast in recent years, which can also proved that although some parts of our education is not that perfect, our education system is still better.
us public school (middle school and first year in high school) teachs very little compared to schools in china. way back, china taught physics in the second year in the middle school, chemistry started in the third year in the middle school. the courses continued until kids finished high school. no science as a whole.
Xing Gao, the problem here is that wealth changes the menatily of people. Back in the 19th century, white children studied 16 hours a day, and had another 2-4 hours of homework every day. They also had school on Saturday and half the day on Sunday. If they misbehaved, they were beaten with canes. This is how education worked in countries like England and Germany up to WW2. This extreme work ethic, combined with a thrifty character(living on bread and beans and saving every penny possible) is how white people became so rich. But white people now are lazy and just living off the wealth left to them by their grandparents and great-grandparents. They don't study or work hard because they don't have to. Asians ask why is it that white people are so rich if they don't study and work very hard. The answer is: inherited money. But the problem with inherited money is that it runs out. White people now are the spoiled entitled brat that inherited a fortune from his daddy and doesn't need to woirk. But the money eventually runs out.
Because the after a hundred years or so the system of teaching gets more relaxed. And less students are inclined to learn. Keeping kids engaged in a society that promotes creativity over education becomes a tuff challenge.
In UK, your social status is very much determined when you were born. If you are born in an average work family, normally you will go thru normal schools, hang out with friends that are also from the same social class and are not inclined to study that hard to move up the social ladder. In Singapore, meritocracy is valued and every student is given an equal chance to go to the best schools if you work hard enough.
In the Netherlands, you pass when your average is 55% or over that. My school had a final test passing percentage of 95 percent. If that's the case, your school is considered among the best in the country. Even though the passing grade isn't strict and you are able to choose your subjects (e.g. you can drop chemistry and choose history), youths in my country are complaining about "having too much to do for exams".
joesr31 ya lah but I'm comparing on these students' level. They are technically Sec 1/Sec 2, by content, so their Low scores would be considered quite shameful.
But they only applied this method in a short period of time. imagine if they continue to do this throughout the school year. there would be a massive difference
Very entertaining. Hope to watch the whole series. I grew up in a Chinese-like education system, and critical thinking actually had to be taught as a class. Guess there is no one size fits all, and as a society we have to reconsider why our benchmarks keep shifting between student centric learning and performing on global academic tests.
overall its the society's that determine the fate of their nation, I would not judge it because both are great civilizations that has reach the pinnacle at their hay day....
My school in HK has shown the success of Chinese in maths. Our first 2 IGCSE cohorts had an average of 91.5% Grade 7-9 in Maths, and 96% Grade 7-9 in Physics. And just now, we got 100% A grades in Pure Mathematics P2 (IAL).
The purpose of attending any type of learning class is to learn, to learn effectively you must have discipline, one disruptive person can spoil things for the remainder of the students, this is unfair and I think that after 1 or 2 years of education students should be streamed in those who wish to learn and those that do not and they should be taught separately with periodic reviews to see who would benefit from changing streams.
I think the best education is the one to help students better meet the needs of society and labor market, that means there exists no "best" approach on a worldwide level. It can only be discussed on a state basis or even within smaller range.
Well, in this globalized world. I think society and labor markets are getting pretty similar, no? I mean, I have traveled the world. It's basically all the same. In fact, it has been for years. That said, trying to tailor make education for the whole world would be a disaster for there would then be a standardised model and that model would become the accepted norm and therefore no room for improvement. But, I hear what you say...
its ironic how the western world is stating that they r all about creativity and uniqueness, and then they make kids do standardized tests... if u do standardized tests then u have to implement standardized teaching...
I'm Chinese and not all UK schools are alike that. Broad differences between the UK nations. UK students are mostly very polite and the schools are mostly well funded with creative subjects. There are high standards.
Yes, I am hoping to have it to be extended further. If we look into this video itself and the Chinese teacher stated it as well that such teaching method "kills" imagination and critical thinking and of which also entails no questioning to the authority. If the objective of no questioning is to score better, listen well and absorb prescribed input, then no questioning is required. However, this comes to the point as well on the purpose of questioning in the classroom. What "is" questioning and how they are modelled. Are they being modelled as "challenging" the authority or are they being modelled as "negotiating" with authority. This is truly an interesting and important aspect to look into.
Students know they can get away with everything--they're stupid, but not that stupid that they don't quickly learn that. So, the students knowing that, what do you expect?
When I went to school those grades would have been fails. But, then again I proofread my step-daughter's papers for college and I could not believe that she was getting A's and B's on them as my Junior High teachers would have handed them back and said "do it again". The standards have fallen so far that it is no wonder these kids can't get decent jobs with a degree.
Discipline and respect is what's lacking in western education. Perhaps a short stint of military style cadet training in the curriculum may do the trick.
Don't be fooled. I teach in China and believe me, the Chinese education system is not as great as you think. I know this from experience and from actual conversations with Chinese students.
Is the British grading system different from the U.S.? A 50% here would be a failing average grade... I know it's different in Canada but what about the U.K.?
Tina Spence it depends from subject to subject and on the qualification. In England (I can't speak for Scotland/Ireland etc) we have GCSEs, BTECs and other qualifications that all have different grading systems. We also have different exam tiers to help people get qualifications based on ability - (at GCSE) higher tier where you can get any grade at all including A* and foundation where the test content is much easier but the highest grade you can get is a C. This is important as in the UK you need 5 GCSEs at grade C inc. English and Maths so some people have more chance of gaining these at foundation level. For GCSEs, a grade C is a pass, anything below is a fail. A* is the best grade you can get. At A Level, an E is considered a pass and anything below is obviously a fail. A Levels are harder than GCSEs hence the change in pass/fail grades - it's much easier to fail at A Level and much harder to do well. Also worth noting that in the U.K., the percentages for pass/fail grades changes every year as well so it's not set in stone. A C in English Language may be 60% one year and say 55% another. An A grade may be 80% one year or 70% another. And if a pass in Eng Lang was 60% one year, let's say, it wouldn't necessarily be the same percentage to pass in Geography, for example. I'm not sure how it is elsewhere but in the U.K. our exams are standardised and external with different exam boards like AQA and OCR. We have a couple of exams for each subject. I have no idea how testing is done in the USA - or grading past getting letter grades with a plus or minus which we don't have in the UK other than an A* which is effectively an A+ - but that's a little bit on the UK... its of course being changed at the moment so I'm not sure how up to date my information will be in time to come.
adavgt I don't even know how much testing we do here but I know it can be quite excessive. I went to a private school so we didn't have to do all the government testing. Thank God.I had a teacher one year who had worked in public school for a while and she was so relieved that she could spend more time actually teaching and less time monitoring standardized tests at our school. And I'm gong to have to read that comment several more times before I can begin to understand the English grading system. Lol. The regular and honors classes in high school were all on an 8 point grading scale so 100-93 were As, 92-85 were Bs and so on. It took me a while just to get used to the 10 point grading scale in college, but the English grading system is on a whole different level haha.
Tina Spence I'm not sure how well I explained it but I tried to be clear... It's actually not very complicated once you put all the pieces together with the English system lol. But maybe us Brits don't find it a bit strange cause we've had to understand it!
well the pass mark is 4 - 6. 4 being a low c 5 being a high C or low B 6 being a high B. 7 being an A 8 being an A* 9 being an A** (only handed out to the top students) 50% - 60% = C (grade 4 or 5 depending on he subject) 70% - 80% = B (grade 5 or 6 depending on the subject) 80% - 95% = A/A* (grade 7 or 8 depending on the subject) 95+ % = A** (grade 9) (I've rounded these percentages because different subject have different grades so I just tried to find the average). Grade 5 is considered to be the 'good pass mark'. Grade 4 is like you've JUST, very just, passed. But it's not good enough to be considered a good pass.
British, Canadian, and american teaching system allows only select few who work extra and go above and beyond to be successful. The freedom in western/Europe education allows students with motivation to succeed in their own ways. Chinese system makes everyone, potential or not, at least somewhat successful (job that sustains family) by setting high base standards.
Respect towards authority is more important than education. Without it there is no respect for anything a person learns from anyone else, living or dead.
Let me tell you this... This is a disgraceful representation of British school.. I myself go to a school in London. The exams have so much content and are ridiculously hard for most people and there is a lot of pressure if you are a high performing student. Us students are not all as rebellious as shown in this video. In my classes we are hard working and respectful, we use most of our free time to study.
As a foreigner, I visited London not too long ago and my experience with British school kids at the Imperial War Museum was that they are loud, rude and totally disrespectful. Then again, my journey was over a decade ago, so I am hoping kids have mellowed down since.
@@Daud76 I think as a person who knows many Chinese people of my age group, they are much more disciplined than us Brits in general, I respect them for that. But the kids in this show are really really bad, not just any average British school pupils
It depends on the area supplying students to the school. The children of professional parents are better behaved and do better than the children of uneducated labourers. My wife once taught in an American School in Saudi Arabia. The kids were children of mostly expat doctors (mostly specialists) and engineers. They competed to see who did best in class, and the parents asked for more homework so their kids would do better. She says she never enjoyed teaching so much. Now she's in a mining town in Australia where some kids come into high school unable to read. The standards are rock-bottom and there are major disciplinary problems, like kids swearing at teachers--this happens daily. When they do something wrong, they're rewarded with a holiday at home.
I’m Chinese studying in Hong Kong, I will move to England to study, but honestly scared that my grades will go down studying there, I’m used to having very strict rules and without them, I feel like I’ll have no standards for myself
The Asian educational system may produce high test scores, but as the Chinese teacher pointed out, 3:20 is not conducive to creativity, skepticism, innovation, discovery (the UK pop 66 m has won 129 Nobel Prizes, while China with 1.3 b has won 5, though this will certainly increase in the future).
I don't know if they're representative of British children as a whole; if they are, it's a disgrace. It stands to reason that more discipline will lead to higher marks, because the teacher can concentrate on teaching rather than controlling an unruly class. I went to school in the 80s, and they seemed to have it about right. The discipline wasn't severe, but it wasn't as lax as this. Consequently we learned more. Critical thinking is for university; children need to learn the facts first.
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CGTN is funded in whole or in part by the Chinese government. propaganda to de-humanize British people and make out that the han are the best.
The only reason why the Chinese system succeeded is because it lends itself better to test taking. Honestly, exams were designed for a school system where the Chinese style of teaching is used because it wasn't just a Chinese style of teaching in the past. Prussia and Britain also used the same methods to educate kids and the exam method reflects this context. If instead the assessment were based on a more creative press like writing a paper, we may potentially see a very different outcome.
You are quite wrong. We do take literature and writing courses in Chinese. Language barriers might explain why you don't see many pieces, so called creative writings in English. It does not mean we can't write papers. In fact, I excelled at writing scientific papers with more than 20 co-author publications in English journals before I even started my PhD, way more than my peers in Canada. You don't need fancy English to produce logically sound arguments. If you are indeed referring to creative writing in a more novel art format, I bet you haven't really read any Chinese novels. FYI, I just past my PhD comprehensive exams, not just the technical parts but also the thesis writing component. Our system works period. I have to think you either don't know how we learn or you are having difficulty differentiating bad English from bad writting.
If you take any undergraduate level or graduate level courses even in Canada, you are expected to be compared to your cohort of students. We receive grades based on a bell curved distribution, if you fall short from average don't dream about getting any grades higher than B. If you want to attend grad school or med school or law school, GPA is crucial. I am not saying doing well in school defines you. Many people succeed in life not through academic, but if you choose your path, like me hoping to be in academia, you have to push hard and discipline yourself. I am not going to have any "creative" research ideas if I don't spend hours reading papers and learning what other people are working on and struggling with.
@qi Siang Ng . I found that the asian teaching method are usually targetting the examination , like all their studying are for passing or achieving high marks in exams . While the western teaching method is usually all about stimulating the student's brain and their love of learning , acquiring knowledges . That is why you see Chinese or Asian kids are more likely to play videos games and amuze themselves with high tech gadgets , rather than reading books , or learning skills , like social skills , or sports.
Exactly. Which is why UK is in the top 3 countries for the Olympics all the time. Also, it's the reason why UK is the AI capital of the world, and it's why UK has a working space program. Oh wait...
Everything is destined, including your education level and wealth. Don't bother with fancy methods like this. Live your life, enjoy it, do things with reasonable effort. Too strict and rigid system will kill creativity and incur emotional scars.
So what you're saying is don't even bother trying to help your students to do better in school. You would just rather they fail because you believe it's their destiny. Everyone should have a chance to succeed. Its just finding out which method works better.
I was referring to success in academics. While not everyone needs to succeed in school to be happy, they also don't always get to see the potential in their lives. In America we have students dropping out and joining gangs, doing drugs, and promoting violence. Theses are the students that could have been reached by the academic world. Because our american school system fails our students we loose a lot of jobs to people from other countries. And our collective work ethic has dropped significantly. Why give up on students when you could help them reach an understanding that they can do anything if they try hard enough.
You comments and logic give me a sense that your educational system also failing you. - The majority of the work force are not related to inventing or involved in creativity. - A good education correlated to a better paying job and low unemployment rate, hence live a better lives and enjoy more. - A few example drop-out individual who are "lucky" enough to become multi-millionaires or billionaires does not override the fact that majority of low educated individuals fails to become millionaires. Education is the foundation to which an individual have a higher chance of success. - Rogue learning is the first step of acquiring basic knowledge in order to build a solid foundation for further creativity, strong work ethics, and more efficiency in inventing stuffs.
@Shannon Hensley: Not all drop-outs end up joining gangs. Look at Bill Gates. Academic success is not the solution to your social problem and violence.
Victoria Matthews 2 months ago (edited) In the USA, many school systems hire younger teachers from programs like America’s Choice, or Teach for America, or some other groups and develop a reciprocal partnership to get a financial, federal kick-back in funds. Why keep an experienced senior teacher making an up-graded salary when they can hire an inexperienced young teacher and pay that person much less? Also, by firing a senior teacher, they can save the system money by not paying benefits like health insurance and life insurance. Unfortunately, money is more important to them than cultivated education. So aside from 14th amendment violations practiced by some preferential principals, money is another motive for firing tenured senior teachers. If these senior teachers do not retire, or resign then, they are issued unsatisfactory evaluations, or their working environment is made uncomfortable. . . In other countries, experienced, senior teachers are greatly valued and respected for their knowledge. Perhaps that is the reason that “U.S. students’ academic achievement still lags that of their peers in many other countries.” www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/02/15/u-s-students-internationally-math-science/
A rigid and disciplinary education system naturally tends to raise the median and 5-percentile score. An open-ended and interactive system tends to breed higher performance at 95 percentile at the expense of much lower 5-percentile score. It doesn't matter if it is Chinese or British.
If the Finnish system is so good, WHY DON'T they make a documentary with Finnish teachers instead! I haven't yet seen any article or programme discussing in detail the Finnish method. Let us all see why and how do they teach their kids. The British seems to be really sore losers here, they just don't want to admit that the Chinese methods do yield better results for the class than their British system. The British education system is very much based on class discussion and finding out information yourselves, but many kids at that young age just aren't disciplined enough to find out the facts themselves or have accurate, meaningful discussions, hence they don't achieve the best results. Sorely lacking discipline. Some of them just look like they hate school regardless. That attitude is something they had before the Chinese teachers came in.
It's actually Western vs Asian. Western nations are like this because they have freedoms, so they don't really punish their badly behaved students. Pick any badness in any country and they'll be the losers against China. The China educational system also has its faults.
羊义 if you want to be doctor or lawyer or anything corporate yes. you have to accept the fact that even you want to be an artist, and dreaming to go to art school, you have to get good grades. World is pain, I know but that's just how life works 🌈
My father's 6-mouth-to-feed-family used to be litteral peasants. Only through that kind of disciplinary and education did my father escape that social class and become (from my pov) upper middle class
honestly with the Chinese teaching method WITH CHINESE STUDENTS, they would completely shred Britain to bits. Mostly it was just communication issues with the Chinese teachers, and disciplinary issues that previous British teachers created
Boy im from England and im shocked! Usually you only see these kids in the poorly funded schools or people who are in the support class because they dont give a shit
I went through my early years of school in Hawaii back in the Forties. We live in a multicultural society, but we go to the same school and with the same teacher. Chinese and Japanese students have the best grades and Hawaiians have the worst grades. I was a little of everything, Japanese, Chinese and Hawaiian. and never made top grades, but enough to have a BSEE from Purdue, thanks to my own effort.
The Chinese lady at the end with her "Maybe the Chinese way of teaching kills the imagination..." is just soooo full of it. The Chinese kids are not "regimented," they are supported -- a notion which does not appear in Anglo-American pedagogy. Since they are better supported by their schools and teachers, therefore they are more successful in school. Reeeealy simple proposition. Being better supported and more successful, why then should anyone expect them to be less creative, innovative, liberated? One shouldn't. Academic success frees kids up to be more creative. Period.
This isn't a legitimate experiment. If you want to do this then you'll also need 2 groups of Chinese kids. One group taught by Chinese teachers using their method and the other taught by British teachers. If it comes down to examinations, then the British method is bound to fail.
When I was 12 years old, my whole class got 90 and above for maths. I thought I got 80+ so I cried in class. Turns out it was marked wrongly and my actual marks were 97. Relieved that I didn't embarrasse myself. The next exam I got 100 marks.
Funny thing is when I was in school (many many years ago) maths was never my strong point. Basic maths was so complicated and yet in algebra, I would also score 100% in tests and exams. Very weird brain I have. 😄
Good things about Chinese learning: • Hard-work system • More respectful attitude • You have to work gd at everything • Math is OP Bad news about Chinese teaching: • More Stressful • Less creative in general • Strict rules • English isn't the best :p Edit: and competitive damn it
Asian Education System is only good up to Elementary/Primary. Beyond that the old Western style (NOT CURRENT YALE SJW style) is far more superior in terms of creativity, freedom, survival, dominance and confidence. I noticed this in Singapore, the locals were being replaced by migrants from poor countries, and although the average Singaporean has a higher IQ test score and overall educational background most fresh graduates don't know how cruel the capitalist corporate world can be, this area is where migrants excels, and that is tenacity.
I think that the Chinese method is fine. Not perfect, but fine, however I think that it must be diluted with elements from the Finnish style of learning. Finland definitely has the best education system, however the East Asian countries have taken the number one spot from the country PISA score-wise, obviously due to less time in taking a break and letting the students relieve themselves from the stress and dragging lessons. Finland gives its students a huge 75 minutes in recess, a lot of time to ease the pressure on them. If the Chinese method were to implement elements like this from the Finnish education system, it would definitely see the personality shine among its students, since there's no personality among the students due to so much time being dedicated more to lessons and rigorous rote learning methods, and not an actual break, in which that students can actually socialise. If there isn't much of a break for students, there would be nothing exciting about going to school - it would just look like a boring school which has classrooms filled with rows of an average fifty students. This kind of relates to what that woman was talking about near the end of this video, that the Chinese method, although superior education-wise, can kill the student's imagination and freedom of thought that makes up their unique personality. Correct me if I'm wrong here, I'm open to criticism anytime :)
The Chinese science teacher was thinking "No, no, I don't want to listen, I knew these troublemaker going to lose," and she winned......You could see WTF on her face........
Why not compare them to the best schooling in the world, such as Finland? When comparing British to Chinese schools we are making excuses for ourselves, because we are saying that we are losing because we are taking a position on a sliding scale between authority and creativity, a scale that is win/lose against lose/win. In reality there is a many scales that British schools can improve on that are win/win. A comparison between British and better European schools, or even private schools, would demonstrate that.
They taught you your 3rd foreign language, physics and chemistry, and stuff like polynomial functions when you were 11 in Germany? Sure they did, buddy. Who are you trying to kid here, and for what purpose?
This only proves that Chinese way of teaching is better at getting the “right answers”. When it comes to research/creativity/analysis/critical thinking you will see that the Western methods wins hands down.
I spent my high school in China and I can tell you guys, this is too soft. One of my friend snapped his finger in class and he was sent right to hospital, for a broken arm. So no, we don't find any of those punishments funny.
It is well known that Chinese schools are always better in pursue of academic. Another example come from Malaysia where independent Chinese schools outdone government schools' performance to the extend that non Chinese enroll and overwhelm Chinese schools.
listening without questioning is never acceptable - that is why you have Islam in so many nations, causing problems...But, if those questions are spot on, then what you're talking about is fair discussion - exploration... in elementary school, there's little to explore; you learn facts...therefore the education system must permit inquiry, but only where there is reason to inquire.
Those percentages were shockingly low.....
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CottonTheRabbit in England >70% is a "first", or an A in the US.
Francis Fang What the hell, an A where
I live is 90%
Well I was talking especially about British unis. And as far as I'm concerned for high schools the criteria can also vary from school to school, from region to region, and from course to course. :)
Francis The Polyglot Wow, those tests must be pretty hard or the standards pretty low
lol the girl Sophie has been a rebel towards the Chinese's science teacher all the time and yet getting tear up during farewell 😂
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Many teenagers act tough and put on a hard shell but underneath they're still soft-hearted children.
As a teacher myself, I can testify that this is not surprising at all. It's usually the biggest troublemakers who turn out to have the softest emotional underbelly. To this day, I receive more enthusiastic visits from former troublemakers than I do from those who were well-behaved and excelled academically.
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Same here in Philippines.... But when you belong to the higher section, 85% is a low score hahahaha
I am not Chinese, but I have studied there for 6 years (1999-2006).
I found the "Chinese School" in this video is too soft. You have no idea how much pressure student in Chinese school get.
thats not the school, its the culture, the culture not to lose out, thats the pressure which cannot be duplicated in a britain school in such short time frame
True mate
I heard East Asian schools are hothouses compared to Western ones.
Diamonds form under pressure.
So do dead people.
The question is: why're they still learning photosynthesis at this age
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Huh really? Uh...well, that’s not very good. Photosynthesis is one of the first things u learn in science and they’re 13 so Secondary 1. I’m just going to assume they’re learning the chemical equation.
Is that Singlish?
@@linatwoones yep lmaoo
Photosynthesis is can be pretty deep . You don’t learn the same part during secondary 1 , 3 and college. I wonder if you even go to school.
I believe that if the students on the Chinese side had been a bit more respectful and obedient from the beginning instead of being intentionally rebellious, they could have scored even higher on all three exams with higher scores, although the Chinese side did beat the british side on all three exams.
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Yes, I agree. But that would have involved every student reinventing themselves just overnight to please a teacher of which they know nothing about. It would have also been a great change within the social hierarchy in the class in general. Kids are nice on an individual basis to teachers. But in a group, if not contained, will drive the teacher crazy. I've seen it happen countless times. Kids are evil...
Things would have gone better had the teachers been allowed to use the Chinese Teaching Stick. It cheaply and quickly transforms a rebellious troublemaker into a student eager to learn.
Those kids were so rude and disrespectful, schools need to be way stricter and maybe bring bback the cane
Lexie Yippyyippyyooyoo i don't agree about bringing back the cane but yes they were very disrespectful
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You need to calm the hell down. Disciplining a teenager that is being disrespectful by hitting them with a cane is different to hitting a helpless child. If the cane was an option in schools, students wouldn't even have to get hit with it to behave better, it could act as a deterrent. I said maybe bring back the cane anyway, I wasn't even being serious. I dont care if children are hit in school or not but students do need to become a lot more respectful to their teachers. You need to learn some manners, you little cussy mouth.
He who spares his child the rod hates his child.
I see a lot of comments saying learning a lot at school will make kids stop thinking. Learning a lot does not mean losing individual thinking. Instead, learning should help thinking more! You have to know more to think more. If you know nothing, what can you think?
I mean ironically enough if you don’t know something, then the way you might learn it all by your self may be completely new and be revolutionary, compared to just learning the “normal way” but I get what your trying to say
Kids need to form a great studying habit , a solid foundation and keep discipline when they are at young age. And the education should focus on creativity and personality development when they grow up.Because the first step away and you will never back to the right way. Before our values become stable, we need to be disciplined, otherwise, it is easy to get into the wrong way.
Actually studies have shown that out of class studying does not improve your chances of learning the information. If you can't learn it in class what is the point of teaching yourself at home. Finland is the best example of this. They have the best test scores and they never receive any homework. And discipline can only go so far. Many jobs in America are actually moving away from the old school style of business. Sitting at a desk for hours on end lowers productivity and increases stress levels . And because of this many students that have only been taught old school business model, after college have a hard time dealing with the unpredictability of the working world.
Shannon Hensley Lower productivity in America is just because they are lazy, most of the homeless people also have great stress levels without sitting at a desk.China is developing so fast in recent years, which can also proved that although some parts of our education is not that perfect, our education system is still better.
you are confusing education with political and social differences. It has nothing to do with the education.
us public school (middle school and first year in high school) teachs very little compared to schools in china. way back, china taught physics in the second year in the middle school, chemistry started in the third year in the middle school. the courses continued until kids finished high school. no science as a whole.
Xing Gao, the problem here is that wealth changes the menatily of people. Back in the 19th century, white children studied 16 hours a day, and had another 2-4 hours of homework every day. They also had school on Saturday and half the day on Sunday. If they misbehaved, they were beaten with canes. This is how education worked in countries like England and Germany up to WW2. This extreme work ethic, combined with a thrifty character(living on bread and beans and saving every penny possible) is how white people became so rich. But white people now are lazy and just living off the wealth left to them by their grandparents and great-grandparents. They don't study or work hard because they don't have to. Asians ask why is it that white people are so rich if they don't study and work very hard. The answer is: inherited money. But the problem with inherited money is that it runs out. White people now are the spoiled entitled brat that inherited a fortune from his daddy and doesn't need to woirk. But the money eventually runs out.
Why were all their scores so bad? Getting below 75% in Singapore is crazy.
Because the after a hundred years or so the system of teaching gets more relaxed. And less students are inclined to learn. Keeping kids engaged in a society that promotes creativity over education becomes a tuff challenge.
no its not, once you enter JC, some even start struggling in upper secondary, especially for the higher level subjects
In UK, your social status is very much determined when you were born. If you are born in an average work family, normally you will go thru normal schools, hang out with friends that are also from the same social class and are not inclined to study that hard to move up the social ladder. In Singapore, meritocracy is valued and every student is given an equal chance to go to the best schools if you work hard enough.
In the Netherlands, you pass when your average is 55% or over that. My school had a final test passing percentage of 95 percent. If that's the case, your school is considered among the best in the country. Even though the passing grade isn't strict and you are able to choose your subjects (e.g. you can drop chemistry and choose history), youths in my country are complaining about "having too much to do for exams".
joesr31 ya lah but I'm comparing on these students' level. They are technically Sec 1/Sec 2, by content, so their Low scores would be considered quite shameful.
But they only applied this method in a short period of time. imagine if they continue to do this throughout the school year. there would be a massive difference
Very entertaining. Hope to watch the whole series. I grew up in a Chinese-like education system, and critical thinking actually had to be taught as a class. Guess there is no one size fits all, and as a society we have to reconsider why our benchmarks keep shifting between student centric learning and performing on global academic tests.
overall its the society's that determine the fate of their nation, I would not judge it because both are great civilizations that has reach the pinnacle at their hay day....
Well said!
well said
My school in HK has shown the success of Chinese in maths.
Our first 2 IGCSE cohorts had an average of 91.5% Grade 7-9 in Maths, and 96% Grade 7-9 in Physics.
And just now, we got 100% A grades in Pure Mathematics P2 (IAL).
Same with my Hk school
To use "creativity" as an argument is a low blow. Don't they know that creativity is fuelled by knowledge.
yes, however just having knowledge doesn't mean you know how to be creative
The purpose of attending any type of learning class is to learn, to learn effectively you must have discipline, one disruptive person can spoil things for the remainder of the students, this is unfair and I think that after 1 or 2 years of education students should be streamed in those who wish to learn and those that do not and they should be taught separately with periodic reviews to see who would benefit from changing streams.
I think the best education is the one to help students better meet the needs of society and labor market, that means there exists no "best" approach on a worldwide level. It can only be discussed on a state basis or even within smaller range.
Communism education.
@@freelanceart1019 ?
Well, in this globalized world. I think society and labor markets are getting pretty similar, no? I mean, I have traveled the world. It's basically all the same. In fact, it has been for years. That said, trying to tailor make education for the whole world would be a disaster for there would then be a standardised model and that model would become the accepted norm and therefore no room for improvement. But, I hear what you say...
Why chinese student want to go euro and america university ???? China goverment behavior student likes worker
its ironic how the western world is stating that they r all about creativity and uniqueness, and then they make kids do standardized tests... if u do standardized tests then u have to implement standardized teaching...
I'm Chinese and not all UK schools are alike that. Broad differences between the UK nations. UK students are mostly very polite and the schools are mostly well funded with creative subjects. There are high standards.
The presenter hit the nail on the head at the end about students questioning authority. This, is the great challenge all teachers face...
Yes, I am hoping to have it to be extended further. If we look into this video itself and the Chinese teacher stated it as well that such teaching method "kills" imagination and critical thinking and of which also entails no questioning to the authority. If the objective of no questioning is to score better, listen well and absorb prescribed input, then no questioning is required. However, this comes to the point as well on the purpose of questioning in the classroom. What "is" questioning and how they are modelled. Are they being modelled as "challenging" the authority or are they being modelled as "negotiating" with authority. This is truly an interesting and important aspect to look into.
Students know they can get away with everything--they're stupid, but not that stupid that they don't quickly learn that. So, the students knowing that, what do you expect?
We say in China that" find victory in failure " find hope in the darkness"
When I went to school those grades would have been fails. But, then again I proofread my step-daughter's papers for college and I could not believe that she was getting A's and B's on them as my Junior High teachers would have handed them back and said "do it again". The standards have fallen so far that it is no wonder these kids can't get decent jobs with a degree.
Yall dont know how much pressure we undergo, school starts at 6am and ends at 10pm😢
Discipline and respect is what's lacking in western education. Perhaps a short stint of military style cadet training in the curriculum may do the trick.
Don't be fooled. I teach in China and believe me, the Chinese education system is not as great as you think. I know this from experience and from actual conversations with Chinese students.
Maria Montessori, John Holt, Homeschool to protect: imagination, freedom of thinking, critical thinking, and creativity.
Rather condescending tv reporter near the end, slyly pushes away from making a judgment and sits on the fence.
+merrickal it's for youuuuuuuuu to DECIDE
ang mohs hate to be wrong so he has to pander.
Is the British grading system different from the U.S.? A 50% here would be a failing average grade... I know it's different in Canada but what about the U.K.?
Tina Spence it depends from subject to subject and on the qualification. In England (I can't speak for Scotland/Ireland etc) we have GCSEs, BTECs and other qualifications that all have different grading systems. We also have different exam tiers to help people get qualifications based on ability - (at GCSE) higher tier where you can get any grade at all including A* and foundation where the test content is much easier but the highest grade you can get is a C. This is important as in the UK you need 5 GCSEs at grade C inc. English and Maths so some people have more chance of gaining these at foundation level. For GCSEs, a grade C is a pass, anything below is a fail. A* is the best grade you can get. At A Level, an E is considered a pass and anything below is obviously a fail. A Levels are harder than GCSEs hence the change in pass/fail grades - it's much easier to fail at A Level and much harder to do well. Also worth noting that in the U.K., the percentages for pass/fail grades changes every year as well so it's not set in stone. A C in English Language may be 60% one year and say 55% another. An A grade may be 80% one year or 70% another. And if a pass in Eng Lang was 60% one year, let's say, it wouldn't necessarily be the same percentage to pass in Geography, for example. I'm not sure how it is elsewhere but in the U.K. our exams are standardised and external with different exam boards like AQA and OCR. We have a couple of exams for each subject. I have no idea how testing is done in the USA - or grading past getting letter grades with a plus or minus which we don't have in the UK other than an A* which is effectively an A+ - but that's a little bit on the UK... its of course being changed at the moment so I'm not sure how up to date my information will be in time to come.
adavgt I don't even know how much testing we do here but I know it can be quite excessive. I went to a private school so we didn't have to do all the government testing. Thank God.I had a teacher one year who had worked in public school for a while and she was so relieved that she could spend more time actually teaching and less time monitoring standardized tests at our school. And I'm gong to have to read that comment several more times before I can begin to understand the English grading system. Lol. The regular and honors classes in high school were all on an 8 point grading scale so 100-93 were As, 92-85 were Bs and so on. It took me a while just to get used to the 10 point grading scale in college, but the English grading system is on a whole different level haha.
Tina Spence I'm not sure how well I explained it but I tried to be clear... It's actually not very complicated once you put all the pieces together with the English system lol. But maybe us Brits don't find it a bit strange cause we've had to understand it!
Oh, you explained it very well. I'm just not used to it!
well the pass mark is 4 - 6.
4 being a low c
5 being a high C or low B
6 being a high B.
7 being an A
8 being an A*
9 being an A** (only handed out to the top students)
50% - 60% = C (grade 4 or 5 depending on he subject)
70% - 80% = B (grade 5 or 6 depending on the subject)
80% - 95% = A/A* (grade 7 or 8 depending on the subject)
95+ % = A** (grade 9)
(I've rounded these percentages because different subject have different grades so I just tried to find the average).
Grade 5 is considered to be the 'good pass mark'.
Grade 4 is like you've JUST, very just, passed. But it's not good enough to be considered a good pass.
British, Canadian, and american teaching system allows only select few who work extra and go above and beyond to be successful. The freedom in western/Europe education allows students with motivation to succeed in their own ways. Chinese system makes everyone, potential or not, at least somewhat successful (job that sustains family) by setting high base standards.
Respect towards authority is more important than education. Without it there is no respect for anything a person learns from anyone else, living or dead.
This is very true. But those in authority can sometimes be the problem, no?
Let me tell you this... This is a disgraceful representation of British school.. I myself go to a school in London. The exams have so much content and are ridiculously hard for most people and there is a lot of pressure if you are a high performing student. Us students are not all as rebellious as shown in this video. In my classes we are hard working and respectful, we use most of our free time to study.
Well, it's a reality show, so audiences should take it for what it's worth. It's certainly nowhere near "scientific."
As a foreigner, I visited London not too long ago and my experience with British school kids at the Imperial War Museum was that they are loud, rude and totally disrespectful. Then again, my journey was over a decade ago, so I am hoping kids have mellowed down since.
@@Daud76 I think as a person who knows many Chinese people of my age group, they are much more disciplined than us Brits in general, I respect them for that. But the kids in this show are really really bad, not just any average British school pupils
@@Александар-ж3ж Thank you for clearing that up. One really ought not to generalise.
It depends on the area supplying students to the school. The children of professional parents are better behaved and do better than the children of uneducated labourers.
My wife once taught in an American School in Saudi Arabia. The kids were children of mostly expat doctors (mostly specialists) and engineers. They competed to see who did best in class, and the parents asked for more homework so their kids would do better.
She says she never enjoyed teaching so much. Now she's in a mining town in Australia where some kids come into high school unable to read. The standards are rock-bottom and there are major disciplinary problems, like kids swearing at teachers--this happens daily. When they do something wrong, they're rewarded with a holiday at home.
I’m Chinese studying in Hong Kong, I will move to England to study, but honestly scared that my grades will go down studying there, I’m used to having very strict rules and without them, I feel like I’ll have no standards for myself
That's what being independent is all about. Self discipline. Good luck though.
Increased discipline and being held to higher standards produces higher results?? what a freaking shock!! /s
The Asian educational system may produce high test scores, but as the Chinese teacher pointed out, 3:20 is not conducive to creativity, skepticism, innovation, discovery (the UK pop 66 m has won 129 Nobel Prizes, while China with 1.3 b has won 5, though this will certainly increase in the future).
As someone who had both Asian(Vietnamese) and American educations, i honestly feel like the American system is easier and I personally learn more.
I don't know if they're representative of British children as a whole; if they are, it's a disgrace. It stands to reason that more discipline will lead to higher marks, because the teacher can concentrate on teaching rather than controlling an unruly class. I went to school in the 80s, and they seemed to have it about right. The discipline wasn't severe, but it wasn't as lax as this. Consequently we learned more. Critical thinking is for university; children need to learn the facts first.
CGTN is funded in whole or in part by the Chinese government.
propaganda to de-humanize British people and make out that the han are the best.
Their average score is ridiculous,here in Taiwan we usually get at least 85%+,I can't even imagine what will happen if we get 60%
Well.......win those guys? Maybe?
The inquiry will begin? damn right.
The only reason why the Chinese system succeeded is because it lends itself better to test taking. Honestly, exams were designed for a school system where the Chinese style of teaching is used because it wasn't just a Chinese style of teaching in the past. Prussia and Britain also used the same methods to educate kids and the exam method reflects this context. If instead the assessment were based on a more creative press like writing a paper, we may potentially see a very different outcome.
You are quite wrong. We do take literature and writing courses in Chinese. Language barriers might explain why you don't see many pieces, so called creative writings in English. It does not mean we can't write papers. In fact, I excelled at writing scientific papers with more than 20 co-author publications in English journals before I even started my PhD, way more than my peers in Canada. You don't need fancy English to produce logically sound arguments. If you are indeed referring to creative writing in a more novel art format, I bet you haven't really read any Chinese novels. FYI, I just past my PhD comprehensive exams, not just the technical parts but also the thesis writing component. Our system works period. I have to think you either don't know how we learn or you are having difficulty differentiating bad English from bad writting.
If you take any undergraduate level or graduate level courses even in Canada, you are expected to be compared to your cohort of students. We receive grades based on a bell curved distribution, if you fall short from average don't dream about getting any grades higher than B. If you want to attend grad school or med school or law school, GPA is crucial. I am not saying doing well in school defines you. Many people succeed in life not through academic, but if you choose your path, like me hoping to be in academia, you have to push hard and discipline yourself. I am not going to have any "creative" research ideas if I don't spend hours reading papers and learning what other people are working on and struggling with.
@qi Siang Ng . I found that the asian teaching method are usually targetting the examination , like all their studying are for passing or achieving high marks in exams . While the western teaching method is usually all about stimulating the student's brain and their love of learning , acquiring knowledges . That is why you see Chinese or Asian kids are more likely to play videos games and amuze themselves with high tech gadgets , rather than reading books , or learning skills , like social skills , or sports.
I disagree. You work harder. Our kids are lazy.
Exactly. Which is why UK is in the top 3 countries for the Olympics all the time. Also, it's the reason why UK
is the AI capital of the world, and it's why UK has a working space program.
Oh wait...
Everything is destined, including your education level and wealth. Don't bother with fancy methods like this. Live your life, enjoy it, do things with reasonable effort. Too strict and rigid system will kill creativity and incur emotional scars.
So what you're saying is don't even bother trying to help your students to do better in school. You would just rather they fail because you believe it's their destiny. Everyone should have a chance to succeed. Its just finding out which method works better.
@Shannon Hensley: Ignorant one, good grades doesn't mean good life. And what do you define as success in life?
I was referring to success in academics. While not everyone needs to succeed in school to be happy, they also don't always get to see the potential in their lives. In America we have students dropping out and joining gangs, doing drugs, and promoting violence. Theses are the students that could have been reached by the academic world. Because our american school system fails our students we loose a lot of jobs to people from other countries. And our collective work ethic has dropped significantly. Why give up on students when you could help them reach an understanding that they can do anything if they try hard enough.
You comments and logic give me a sense that your educational system also failing you.
- The majority of the work force are not related to inventing or involved in creativity.
- A good education correlated to a better paying job and low unemployment rate, hence live a better lives and enjoy more.
- A few example drop-out individual who are "lucky" enough to become multi-millionaires or billionaires does not override the fact that majority of low educated individuals fails to become millionaires. Education is the foundation to which an individual have a higher chance of success.
- Rogue learning is the first step of acquiring basic knowledge in order to build a solid foundation for further creativity, strong work ethics, and more efficiency in inventing stuffs.
@Shannon Hensley: Not all drop-outs end up joining gangs. Look at Bill Gates. Academic success is not the solution to your social problem and violence.
Education is very simple. You must know the facts n order to build a foundation of inquiry.
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In the USA, many school systems hire younger teachers from programs like America’s Choice, or Teach for America, or some other groups and develop a reciprocal partnership to get a financial, federal kick-back in funds. Why keep an experienced senior teacher making an up-graded salary when they can hire an inexperienced young teacher and pay that person much less? Also, by firing a senior teacher, they can save the system money by not paying benefits like health insurance and life insurance. Unfortunately, money is more important to them than cultivated education. So aside from 14th amendment violations practiced by some preferential principals, money is another motive for firing tenured senior teachers. If these senior teachers do not retire, or resign then, they are issued unsatisfactory evaluations, or their working environment is made uncomfortable. . . In other countries, experienced, senior teachers are greatly valued and respected for their knowledge. Perhaps that is the reason that “U.S. students’ academic achievement still lags that of their peers in many other countries.” www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/02/15/u-s-students-internationally-math-science/
Do American system vs. British system!
Aren’t they the same !??
@@mikesean1990 no British system is ahead of the American system
A rigid and disciplinary education system naturally tends to raise the median and 5-percentile score. An open-ended and interactive system tends to breed higher performance at 95 percentile at the expense of much lower 5-percentile score. It doesn't matter if it is Chinese or British.
If the Finnish system is so good, WHY DON'T they make a documentary with Finnish teachers instead! I haven't yet seen any article or programme discussing in detail the Finnish method. Let us all see why and how do they teach their kids. The British seems to be really sore losers here, they just don't want to admit that the Chinese methods do yield better results for the class than their British system. The British education system is very much based on class discussion and finding out information yourselves, but many kids at that young age just aren't disciplined enough to find out the facts themselves or have accurate, meaningful discussions, hence they don't achieve the best results. Sorely lacking discipline. Some of them just look like they hate school regardless. That attitude is something they had before the Chinese teachers came in.
It's actually Western vs Asian. Western nations are like this because they have freedoms, so they don't really punish their badly behaved students. Pick any badness in any country and they'll be the losers against China. The China educational system also has its faults.
is mark really that important？
羊义 yep
nope
羊义 if you want to be doctor or lawyer or anything corporate yes. you have to accept the fact that even you want to be an artist, and dreaming to go to art school, you have to get good grades. World is pain, I know but that's just how life works 🌈
羊义 当然啦！it leads u to ur future
Yes it is in this day. Sorry..
They are happy with less than 70??!! Gosh!
My father's 6-mouth-to-feed-family used to be litteral peasants.
Only through that kind of disciplinary and education did my father escape that social class and become (from my pov) upper middle class
Its not chinese teaching method. Its asian teaching method.
Win ? 50 % ? 60% ? 30% ? this is something to cheer ?
honestly with the Chinese teaching method WITH CHINESE STUDENTS, they would completely shred Britain to bits. Mostly it was just communication issues with the Chinese teachers, and disciplinary issues that previous British teachers created
As a Chinese, i will be carzy with these students.
Boy im from England and im shocked! Usually you only see these kids in the poorly funded schools or people who are in the support class because they dont give a shit
I went through my early years of school in Hawaii back in the Forties. We live in a multicultural society, but we go to the same school and with the same teacher. Chinese and Japanese students have the best grades and Hawaiians have the worst grades. I was a little of everything, Japanese, Chinese and Hawaiian. and never made top grades, but enough to have a BSEE from Purdue, thanks to my own effort.
如果我是里其中的老师，我早就进精神病院~\(≧▽≦)/~啦啦啦
沒錯
沒錯
我就是在英国上的学，当学生的时候我也觉得同学们很烦
The Chinese lady at the end with her "Maybe the Chinese way of teaching kills the imagination..." is just soooo full of it. The Chinese kids are not "regimented," they are supported -- a notion which does not appear in Anglo-American pedagogy. Since they are better supported by their schools and teachers, therefore they are more successful in school. Reeeealy simple proposition.
Being better supported and more successful, why then should anyone expect them to be less creative, innovative, liberated? One shouldn't. Academic success frees kids up to be more creative. Period.
This isn't a legitimate experiment. If you want to do this then you'll also need 2 groups of Chinese kids. One group taught by Chinese teachers using their method and the other taught by British teachers. If it comes down to examinations, then the British method is bound to fail.
you method is strange....
Steven Chen lmao no they would probably be close cause the Chinese would still study a lot when they get back home
You can't find any British teacher can speak Chinese.
If I got under 85% I'm dead meat at home
I'm chinese but I grew up in Britain
I grew up in Vietnam and damn, the education there heavily focus on the academic skills, not as socially as the western’s
for sure you need more discipline in UK
When I was 12 years old, my whole class got 90 and above for maths. I thought I got 80+ so I cried in class. Turns out it was marked wrongly and my actual marks were 97. Relieved that I didn't embarrasse myself. The next exam I got 100 marks.
Funny thing is when I was in school (many many years ago) maths was never my strong point. Basic maths was so complicated and yet in algebra, I would also score 100% in tests and exams. Very weird brain I have. 😄
@@Daud76 whaaat I'm 17 now. Still got A for math but I've failed my add math for 3 consecutive times. 😭😭😭I'm depressed
@@anneliselim602 I am so sorry. Just keep trying and you will succeed. Patience and persistence. 😉
listening without question? who told you that?
fa11234 gygtyr
Good things about Chinese learning:
• Hard-work system
• More respectful attitude
• You have to work gd at everything
• Math is OP
Bad news about Chinese teaching:
• More Stressful
• Less creative in general
• Strict rules
• English isn't the best :p
Edit: and competitive damn it
Those averages are so low! At my school, anything below a 60% is a fail so almost all of those kids would've failed all of those tests...
Asian Education System is only good up to Elementary/Primary. Beyond that the old Western style (NOT CURRENT YALE SJW style) is far more superior in terms of creativity, freedom, survival, dominance and confidence. I noticed this in Singapore, the locals were being replaced by migrants from poor countries, and although the average Singaporean has a higher IQ test score and overall educational background most fresh graduates don't know how cruel the capitalist corporate world can be, this area is where migrants excels, and that is tenacity.
I think that the Chinese method is fine. Not perfect, but fine, however I think that it must be diluted with elements from the Finnish style of learning. Finland definitely has the best education system, however the East Asian countries have taken the number one spot from the country PISA score-wise, obviously due to less time in taking a break and letting the students relieve themselves from the stress and dragging lessons. Finland gives its students a huge 75 minutes in recess, a lot of time to ease the pressure on them. If the Chinese method were to implement elements like this from the Finnish education system, it would definitely see the personality shine among its students, since there's no personality among the students due to so much time being dedicated more to lessons and rigorous rote learning methods, and not an actual break, in which that students can actually socialise. If there isn't much of a break for students, there would be nothing exciting about going to school - it would just look like a boring school which has classrooms filled with rows of an average fifty students. This kind of relates to what that woman was talking about near the end of this video, that the Chinese method, although superior education-wise, can kill the student's imagination and freedom of thought that makes up their unique personality. Correct me if I'm wrong here, I'm open to criticism anytime :)
Bro if I ever got under 90 on a test, I would be so dead.
it's good to learn from each other.
To Sir With Love was a brilliant movie.... and only one Chinese student in the whole class! 🤔😄
I loved the Sir!
Honestly, as a chinese 5th grader in america taking math classes for 8th to 9th graders, I can't protest.
The Chinese science teacher was thinking "No, no, I don't want to listen, I knew these troublemaker going to lose," and she winned......You could see WTF on her face........
The questions is so damn freaking easy
In science, you can challenge the authority if you really know the object and can proof it.
Why not compare them to the best schooling in the world, such as Finland? When comparing British to Chinese schools we are making excuses for ourselves, because we are saying that we are losing because we are taking a position on a sliding scale between authority and creativity, a scale that is win/lose against lose/win. In reality there is a many scales that British schools can improve on that are win/win. A comparison between British and better European schools, or even private schools, would demonstrate that.
since when was finland the best?? its more like shanghai, hong kong, singapore and japan that always seem to be in the top for education
go search the acronym "PISA" test to satisfy your inquiry.
I did an exchange to finnland and the school system was crazy they learned the stuff in 8th grade that I learned in Germany in the 5th grade
you are just saying that cause you live in finland :3
They taught you your 3rd foreign language, physics and chemistry, and stuff like polynomial functions when you were 11 in Germany? Sure they did, buddy. Who are you trying to kid here, and for what purpose?
Haiyaa~ why their grades so low? Haiya~ they need some smacking to wake their idea up😁
Britain wants their own teaching style instead of chinese style
This only proves that Chinese way of teaching is better at getting the “right answers”. When it comes to research/creativity/analysis/critical thinking you will see that the Western methods wins hands down.
not 100% dude,
you're right
I like how the UK want‘s to Talk it Self out of this Situation hahaha
I spent my high school in China and I can tell you guys, this is too soft.
One of my friend snapped his finger in class and he was sent right to hospital, for a broken arm.
So no, we don't find any of those punishments funny.
Both systems have their strengths and weaknesses...
Hei😂 Absolutely funky typical reality show Britain. Keep your own way. Chinese would support your approach so much.
Teach them a Tagalog for sure the British students will get interested.. Hehe👌
Your suggestion is the best yet! Teach them Tagalog and they will be well mannered for life! 😊
UK 0, China 1, Finland 10.
my lovely school
Brit pplz r just different compare to chinese ways if u guys wanna know more I am going to make a vid about this topic so yeah
Nah not only chinese teaching methods but also the whole asian teaching methods too
that just says it all.....
It is well known that Chinese schools are always better in pursue of academic. Another example come from Malaysia where independent Chinese schools outdone government schools' performance to the extend that non Chinese enroll and overwhelm Chinese schools.
Discipline, Discipline, Discipline.
Hence why chinese people were brainwashed by their government.
Survival of the fittest, competitive edge vs. individual progress, perhaps a little bit of both, as long as affordable
How are the scores so low? My passing score is 95% and above. Anything under is bad.
Wow whats with the news reporter at the end being so anti chinese method of teaching..... shying away from the truth...?
this kinda also shows that its not always the student's fault they do bad but the teachers
It's the system's fault.
Remember that in many Asian cultures, school kidscare under family pressure to do good in school, but they are better disciplined too.
the Brita should be very very very ashamed if themselves. their' parents are surely at fault. I cringed - watching the programme.
It's not a fair represantion. Pick the worst out in any country and the'll behave like this.
this is not surprising, the only surprising in here is the marks. Having a mark below 90 is a big no for some Asian parents AND student XP
If the students were chinese as the teachers, they would reach 100%.
listening without questioning is never acceptable - that is why you have Islam in so many nations, causing problems...But, if those questions are spot on, then what you're talking about is fair discussion - exploration... in elementary school, there's little to explore; you learn facts...therefore the education system must permit inquiry, but only where there is reason to inquire.
Shocking British ? Rather Shocking americans , kids in UK and Europe don't have teenager time
That’s hilarious- this is a lot of fun - I mean these cultural experiments..
is really unique what they do :D