Empire Strikes Back - Hasbro Retro Collection!
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Yeah, these are a very bittersweet product line
I don't mind that Luke without a removable helmet because you can essentially use it for other Rebel pilots.
I got the Snowspeeder Luke last week and I was really surprised just how good it is. He's so solid. Tight limbs, great accessories and possibly indestructible.
I really admire the passion channels like yours and RetroBlasting have. There's honesty and integrity in all that you do and that's why I'll always watch. It's funny things like the figure assortment (bespin/hoth) wouldn't even cross my mind. I guess I'm a different type of collector, it's just not important to me but I get where you're coming from on that. I order most of my items online as it's just to hard to find things in stores now but It's definitely an unsatisfactory way to collect imo. I don't really blame hasbro as much as the retailers they deal with like walmart and target. They're not really toy stores and they definitely don't function that way. Hopefully in the future a store like toys r us will open up again in the usa.
Your comment that they should have issued all “Hoth” figures or all “Bespin” figures is a BRILLIANT comment. They should have issued ALL Bespin or ALL Hoth and then issued the Other in a few years. Brilliant observation.
Can’t wait until the Power of the Force Retro line when we get a reprint of Imperial Dignitary.
Sold my originals in the local Essex newspaper when I was a kid because I was saving up for a Commodore Amiga. This collection has allowed me to gain a few favourites back.
Great review as always, just want to say that thru this pandemic both you and retroblasting have reignited my passion for toy collecting, so for that sir, I salute you👍👍👍
Can't wait to see those retro O-ring Joes in the same vein as these. Oh wait. Retro for GIJoe means figures from 10 years ago.
Didn’t notice the Moff Tarkin had a doctored rank badge. ;)
This is a cool product line but the vintage will still be my favorite. Awesome video!
Really thank you... because I was really thinking of picking up these figures....but I'm mostly sold on vantage ...I heard them calling my name but now I'll think twice......I really want the the yoda........✌😁👍
Thank you. Great video!!
Great Video my friend. I wonder if the scattering of characters from Bespin and Hoth was Hasbro's way of trying to give us variety. I still thought before these were announced we were getting a Bespin Han Solo. I'm still keen for a POTF 1985 retro set, coin included!
Love your channel.
You're spot on about Lando being a peg warmer. I've only found a complete set of these twice in stores, but I've seen Lando and Han several times by themselves. Lando also seems to be the peg warmer in the 6" Black Series retro carded figues as well. Glad you like them! 👍
They just need to paint in his mouth.
We should have gotten a Snow Trooper. I woukd gladly give up Lando for the coolest army builder of all time.
Lovely videos this weekend. I wish they’d make the Artoo and Threepio!
Please put them into your collection - make the Repro Haters explode! 🤯😂
Analog Toys provides another comprehensive review video, this time featuring a closer look at the new Empire Strikes Back retro collection from Hasbro!
Tony's love for Star Wars and their action figures is plain to see and although Hasbro continues to let their fans down with their odd choice of figure selection, Tony always endeavours to highlight the positives, as well as the negatives, in his mini documentaries!
It's just a shame that Hasbro hasn't got the sense, to listen to Tony's advice!
I've been to different wal marts all month and can't find a damn Yoda
I would love to get these but in the UK it takes forever to get Hasbro Star Wars products. However we can get the original Kenner figures second hand in comic shops for a cheaper price.
I bought mine in Asda....
I think the reason for the Hoth Han was he was the first ESB Han released in 1980.
you're asking too much of a company that doesn't think.....great video! Keep the great work!
The Hoth Leia, Lando were, along with Darth Vader, were the first three Star Wars toys I ever owned back in the early 80s (I don’t have them now).
My kids got me the retro Darth Vader as a Father’s Day gift, which was really nice because it brought back some memories and they were cheap and well within their pocket-money price range. But looking at this video, the Leia just doesn’t look like it used to. My original toy still exists. My brother had it, and now his kids have it. The hair was a different colour and was matt, as was the skin. The hair here is too dark and shiny. And the legs here are a different shade and a bit overstated. And all these figures look as if the features aren’t as well defined. I wonder if they are taken from the original moulds or if they are taken from a laser scan. But great video, as always.
I think the variety of outfits was meant to encapsulate the whole film rather than limit it to one location. It’s rather savvy, if somewhat narrow minded to figure interaction.
It’s pretty much guaranteed that we will see this trend continuing in the inevitable ROTJ line with a mixture of Tatooine and Endor outfits.
I wonder if we'll see jedi Luke with a blue or green lightsaber. I'd hope that they just say fuck it and put both in the same packaging.
Tony,
Great review brother!👍
I have been lucky enough to to find all of these in stores near me.😁
I agree they look great! I love the fact my kids can now own toys that like identical to the ones I had as a kid. I have bought several and love this line. After they do a ROTJ line I also would love to see a POTF and Ewoks line as well.👍
I can't help but have the impression with this line as well as the wave from last year in that it's a missed opportunity. I fully agree with you and Michael, it's improved this year, but I think it still falls short just a bit. Just my two credits.
I like having a mixture of Hoth and Bespin figures, it adds more variety to an overall small line.
Have this wave and the ANH wave, all of them are simply gorgeous. Tarkin is pretty much perfect and the Luke speeder pilot too.
Picked the whole set minus the boardgame Snowspeeder Luke for $5 each on clearance at Walmart.
M es too lol well just 3 of em
If it was just sold independently like the other figures, then Snowspeeder Luke would fit with Hoth Han and Hoth Leia
Tony:Don't make Lando Skiff and Endor Han figures.
Hasbro:Great idea!
Why would it be a focus of one scene/location? The point of this line is 6 figures that represent the entire line. The choices were great imo.
Thanks Tony, another entertaining video. Great starter kit for beginners, I hope they expand the line for characters never produced before in the vintage style. They just need to get the distribution right (as in available on shelves) and stop bundling with games no one wants. In Australia the only place to buy this in-store is EB Games and I've noticed the same Death Star board game collecting dust at $40, the same with the Hoth game. I'm waiting for it to be discounted to half its price and then I'll get it. I hope Hasbro marketing team learn the lesson for the next wave. Remember the 4 P's of marketing people - product, place, promotion, price.
YES! I bought some extra retro figs for the same reason! Being able to display them in multiple locations lol. Also, the difference in colors could have been done to differentiate vintage from retro.
I'm a big fan of the Retro Collection. Good price and as I collect vintage variations I see these as minty fresh (to borrow Mike's phrase), new vatiations. We just need more, more often and with more 'never made before' figures (I'll even keep buying the crappy games)
The first assortment was only 6 figures per case (1 of each character). I would imagine the same happened with this Empire wave, resulting in 1 Fett per case.
I managed to get both Yoda and Boba Fett off of ebay for $39.99 even. Walmart had neither of those two,but I was able to get the other 4 for 5 dollars each. :)
What focus group is saying these weathered cards looks good?
Your right why can't they take off the weathering and big stickers with retro and just let kids enjoy this figures like there parents did
i am hoping that they continue the line through all nine films so we can get at least six retro style figures from the prequel and sequel films. i still have all my original classic figures from the seventies onwards so it would be nice to able to photograph old with new characters without them looking odd
I love these, I want to see a rogue one set
I agree about the Bespin styles, Hoth Han was my least fav but I do like them. There is clearly a market for this kind of line. However Hoth pilot Luke seems a bit of a random choice.The only figures I remember wishing for back in the day were Tarkin, stormtrooper Han or R2 with a 3rd leg, Degobah Training Luke, Jedi Luke without the tunic or slave Leia. Never thought about Hoth pilot Luke.
Be nice if I could find some in my area. Walmart.ca has had this line sold out for months.
Tony, I love that you mix vintage and repo. What ever looks good. Screw the purists. It's your collection. Do it how you like!
Another great video Tony and I will collect them all when they come to England. However Tony can you tell me is there any plans to release retro return of the Jedi figures??? Thanks again Tony
I feel like Hasbro is testing the waters with these first few waves of retro collection figures and trying to gauge whether they should go down this particular retail path. I completely agree that for the presumed ROTJ wave that Hasbro focus on releasing figures from one environment. I'm super disappointed in the mix matching of the ESB wave. First off, Bespin Han was my favorite original figure growing up, and secondly what's up with isolating Lando? Not cool. Number one ROTJ retro figure that I'd like to see... Emperor Palpatine!
I think the display option is not a particular issue, I have several original vintage figures from my childhood and I don't care if they are mixed, I think new collectors won't mind that, but I have to say your displays are pretty cool...PS: I'm glad that I still have my original vintage Boba Fett
The issue with the details being too soft... it's the same thing with the new MOTU Origins figures by Mattel as well.
Would've been nice if Hasbro did a retro Rebel Blockade trooper (as seen prominently in ANH). Maybe they will at some point.
I have a few Han Solo Hoth with a pink face. There are loads of paint app variants oh Han.
What does the toy r us price tag read on your vintage yoda? Looks like 9.97 or 4.47 wow. I'm hoping it was 1.97 or 2.97 back then and it was simply my screen resolution/old man eyes bugging out.
Very nice work. Really thinking about making removable helmet version by getting a Bespin Luke's head and popping on then hollowing out the Snowspeeder head. The sizes look pretty close.. really not a fan of the way they did the visor on the Snowspeeder Luke.
Just a theory, but probably after they do the ROTJ wave, they'll do a second ANH one. Comprised of the other six original figures they haven't released yet.
And maybe if we're 'lucky', they'll do a Retro vehicle line.
Great video once again. While Hasbro make an effort with the retro collection, it is like they don’t pay attention to the details or care enough to make these something special...the edging to the cards, no chrome plated C3PO, or R2D2, floppy card back, endless safety warnings everywhere etc. After 35 ,40 years you’d think technology has improved for toy companies to replicate things properly. Yet it’s not as good. For the return of the Jedi retro line it’d be really cool if they did a pop up lightsaber R2 D2. But you just know they likely won’t bother. I’d like to be proved wrong.
Someone might have already said this - but don’t you get “Hoth” Luke with the snowspeeder Luke?
I was happy with this selection, just sucks that like the first wave I have been unable to get any in the wild
Cost wise it would make sense to just buy from someone wanting to trade up into a different collection. Mine right now is at about 100% GiJoe Action Man Falcon and Geyperman anything 12 inch figures and accessories
"Aaarrrggghh!" Don't like the roughed up card backs...if you want that effect, chuck em about! Great vid as always 👍 I'll keep 'playing' with my originals thank you Hasbro 😉
Martin Futter or the big fugly RETRO sticker on it! Reaaalllll authentic Kenner.
@@Phutlikka yes, that's the awesome icing on the cake!
The best place to find these seems to be Asda supermarkets.
My prediction for the Jedi wave
Leia Booush disguise
Lando skiff guard
Luke Jedi knight
Wicket W Warwick
Han Solo Endor
Scout Trooper
Wonder what the new return of the jedi figure will be? I don't do vintage but they do look good.
i'm only getting boba fett!😁
Two peg warmers in ESB releases...retro Lando and Black Series Lando. In my opinion, the release of both of these figures at around the same time was a socio-political decision. Next wave, General/Skiff Lando, Luke Jedi, Han Endor (use the same big head version from wave 1 and give soft goods coat), and Leia Boushh (but the helmet will not be removable). The packed item with board game will be Han in Carbonite from Slave I and Han Jabba's Palace.
Luke Hoth would not be released in ESB retro, it might drive down desire for Luke Snowspeeder. As usual, love your vids!
I think Luke and Leias outfit choice is fine cause these are the costumes they spend a huge chunk of the movie in..But Han should of been Bespin outfit cause he spent most of the movie in that get up..I find the chices just fine otherwise cause I am not taking them off the cards and Im more into getting the important characters like Lando and Boba than I am creating an environment as one wont have the vintage vehicles anyways
I like the Snowspeeder Luke sculpt but man he's WAAAY too big! He's half a head taller than Han!
Hoth Snowtroopers would have been cool.
Hasbro has their own definition of "Vintage" from "Retro" during their marketing...and they seems to be confused.
In Riverside and Anaheim, California I’ve seen Lando and Han as peg warmers. -Hey, who is “Lear”? (Chuckling)
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Just messing with you. By the way, you’re the second UA-camr I hear pronounce it that way. Is her name pronounced that way in the films in your country?
I got like Yoda and bobafet
I think when I was very little I would call Grand Moff Tarkin, Grand-Ma Tarkin. lol My grandma was prettier. lol
I totally disagree with you on the set needing to have a focus on where they were in the movie. If you look at the ESB set, there is a nice sampling of the entire movie. Luke with Yoda. Luke with Lando. Han with Leia. I don't need or want them all to be from the same scene in the movie.
Nice insights thanks for that! Love your videos.
Maybe it’s worth bearing in mind that the “mixed” heroes figures is a negative only to you. You talk like that’s almost a unanimous view? There are people, myself included, that like having Hoth and Bespin represented. So it’s not really objectively a fault or a bad decision.
You're right about that board game being crappy. I played it with my family, it was terribly boring.
Whither R2 & 3PO.
The “Disneyland neighbor here“. I’ve been collecting TBS and some VC figures for about four years. I’m curious, why do people want the retro figures when the VC figures are much more advanced? Please don’t give the analogy of a classic car versus a modern car.
(Chuckling)
The face paint for Hoth Han is better on the Retro cos it's pinker and more "fleshy", for sure. The Vintage has a yellowy hue that matches his snow pants, and it looks "cheap", as if they couldn't spare another shade of paint.
The only thing I see so far that sucks about all the Retro figures, is how the sculpting detail is lost or reduced due to a kind of "smoothing" or "mushing" (forgive my lousy adjectives - I cannot find the right one to describe this marring). For example, the fur trim around Hoth Han's hood - the grooves are deeper on the Vintage than the Retro. Same with the buckles & straps on his boots. And his coat. And his snow pants... The list goes on, from head to toe, on (presumably) every Retro character.
If it's a sculpting detail, based on how deep certain "detail grooves" go, then Retro chintzed out and made very sloppy reproductions.
So, score 1 for Retro on the paint choices, but take it back (and possibly dedcut a few additional points) for the "soft" sculpting detail.
After discovering the Poor Quality plastic bendy arms i Wonder if hasbro calculates on collectors to Not unpack them. Like „just Use shit quality, the geeks will Never Discover“ But i liked them for giving me a childhood throwback. Despite not giving me the same „high“ like the pure 80‘s stuff I got addicted to.
Obviously nice figures but unless you are a collector starting out & you don’t want to pay silly money for the vintage figures I don’t know why someone with a vintage SW collection would want them 🤷🏼♂️
The weathered packaging is a let down. Be great if it looked brand new.
Hasbro has got to release R2-D2 and C-3PO in the Retro Collection.
Don't hold your breath
This is an underwhelming toyline the details seem soft to me like the scanner didn't pick out the details and the card backs argh annoying
I think it could be tired and worn out tooling. Or maybe a deliberate decision to distinguish them from the originals.
For myself, I’d sculpt new likenesses just like the originals.
The retro collection to me is a missed opportunity they could have expanded the sets ever 6 months while adding a vehicle or playset this range could have gone on for years instead its 6 figures and a 7th in a game nobody wants are in the shops today gone tomorrow with a lot of disappointed fans having to pay over the odds on ebay
Only problem I have with these figures is they look to much like the original. Is there a new date stamped on these figures? It's bad enough already with all the repro accessories out there for star wars.how are people gonna know what they are buying is vintage or repro? Not everyone into vintage toys is honest and what if the seller isn't sure with what he's selling?.... I'm not a fan of reproduction at all.
Those card backs are just bad why put that fake wear on them and that ugly sticker at least put the retro sticker on the back of the card instead of covering the art work on the front.