AR Wing Pro II - Build Review
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- Here is a review of my AR Wing Pro II with everything I have learned from the test plane incorporated in this build.
The Spec
Sonicmodell AR Wing Pro Kit
Matek F405 Wing FC Running inav 6.1
SunnySky 2216 1400KV MK III Motor
APC or Aeronaut Cam Carbon Light 8x4.5 Prop
T-Motor 55 amp ESC
TBS Crossfire Nano V3
Tower Pro MG90D Metal Gear Digital Servos running at 6V
Balsa Elevons
Macgregor Aluminium Extra Strong Control Horns
HGLRC GPS
DJI Air Unit running latest firmware for Goggles 2
Foxeer Lollipop LHCP Antennas
DJI Goggles 2
GoPro Hero 6 Black v1.6 Firmware
You can get all my AR Pro STL Files Here: drive.google.c...
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I finally broke down and bought this wing. Might swap the stock motor for a 2216 1120 kv motor that I have laying around and run a 9x6 prop
I have another AR Pro with Brotherhobby Reunion 2318 1250kv and Aeronaut Cam Carbon Lite 9x5 and its flies great. A bit more of a cruiser feel than my other setup and a little quieter. Enjoy your AR Pro, its a great wing.
You have done a lovely job on that plane. The finish is spot on.
Cheers Terry, I hope all the work rewards me and it flies nicely.
I just did my maiden and man it is a great wing! I ended up putting a lighter weight motor on it. Emax Eco 2 2807 1300kv motor with a Xoar 8x8 prop and it’s amazing 🎉 So glad I watched your videos and was inspired to give this wing a 2nd chance 🥂
Hey, thats really good to hear and that motor and prop combo sounds great.
Happy AR Pro flying my friend 👍
Your builds and confidence to experiment are inspiring 👍 I failed to maiden my AR Pro twice àbout two years ago, its ornamental now 😅
Cheers Neil, I might make these two ornamental and just fly the test plane so they don't get dirty 🙂
Outstanding build Glenn. Congrats. Looking forward to some of your signature fast and low flying and of course, shooting some narrow gaps.... Great video... Thanks, Will
Cheers Will, I am really looking forward to that as well, from the limited rain abandoned maiden it felt good so I have high hopes that she will fly really well.
Your ar pro is so stylish and neat. I enjoy look at its
Glad you like it. I am building another one as I love this wing so much.
I’m working on my first one/getting close. This wing was a bad choice for a first time builder. These videos have helped so much.
My elevans were in very bad shape. I put carbon rods into the foam to strengthen them, which was very helpful. I considered replacing with wood, like you did, but I really don’t have wood working skills. Turns out I don’t have carbon rod skills neither (it doesn’t look great ) :)
I think this will be my test platform for this wing, so I ordered a foam only white falcon. I may not work on it for awhile, but wanted to get one while I could.
Thanks for your videos, without this series , this would be a one off build. Thank you
Hi I am glad you found some of my content useful, this hobby is a constant learning curve. It's absolutely not essential to do anyhting with the elevons, I ran with the stock foam elevons for a long time. Enjoy your AR Pro and best wishes for your maiden flight.
Great video glen and really appreciate your build ideas & mods. Especially the spreader plate on the control horn/elevons. Had so much issues with these in the past so thankyou.
Yes the balsa is torsional much morre rigid than the foam stock elevons but not so strong under compression. I noticed one of the horns sinking into the surface of the elevon so the plates spread the load and are only 1mm thick so negligable drag.
Nice build!
Sexy rig you got there Glen. Keeps the 3D printer workin overtime. Very well built. I agree the Pro does fly more stable with some extra weight on 'er. Likes to land fast too. I likey. Using the same motor on this one that I used. The Sunnysky V3 is a killer choice. I might steal your "pins on the Rx" trick. Smart call
Thanks, yes I think the SunnySky V3 on the ARP works really well. The pins on RX is defo a handy mod especially when you upgrade firmware or want to swap it out.
Love the air unit switch great idea!.. Mine is currently 1200grams and i thought that flys heavy so interesting to hear yours is 1650!
Yeah that switch has proven to be extremely useful. I think my 5000mah 4S lipos are 560 grams alone, but better to have more battery than dead weight to hit CG I guess. I have had that setup since day 1 so its all I know. I have considered building a super light version just out of curiosity of how it would compare.
Thanks for sharing the stl's.
Your welcome hope they are useful.
What a nice Build. A dream
Thanks David, it was a labour of love for sure and it flies great.
Great build videos on these. Good to see someone obsessed with the arpro also. If you are ever in the South West reach out as a few of us go out flying these regularly
Hi sounds great, I retire at the end of May and have just bought myself a camper van to tour the UK and Europe to meet other pilots and fly in new locations so maybe I could come visit you guys.
Drop me an email and we can have a private chat about maybe setting that up. My email addrtess is in my channel profile.
@@bluefish3607 cool I dropped you an email
I like the air unit switch. Much better than my method of connecting and disconnecting power via a jst cable. I typical use this on my first GPS lock in a new location as this can sometimes take a long time.
Thats exactly one of the reasons I fitted the switch, I let the plane sit on the ground aquiring sats and do all of my preflight checks, then flick the switch fire up the Air Unit and launch.
LED's www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B09HWZJYW5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Switch www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224303141515?hash=item343982528b:g:YZgAAOSwrIpg~AbH&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA8L7TSQ84yxvU38BVn4cSfynOozShn8oVPloMPO4YZkiP%2BzusPs9yCuNB6NIBfhMl76MLz8aZrmBcUPlFaEJiAuuu10U2ggFBXZb83RopBwLAdjx7CP%2FlOivxyvkqNF2PXRgv6LrKsboMKNLb2%2F3LKYJZ35VYwyJYFtkmpOoe0PrGJ1AeMooTJeTC8rhfxmhpRIIHOMpOq%2BAhOmpH1%2FYmvjfR1NkIeMQIlPzXxN%2BeSZvouHXJ5yiO7eBbA2YjAdniChRvU3l9F9SZXu5%2FQLOPTKN6iRRKvKtyi5Z2oL9M8V9moSRDbEf2vcue%2FTV9aMqGEg%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABFBMgrjxrYhi
clean build! nice
Really lovely stuff, thanks for sharing the build.
I’m considering replacing my Dolphin elevons with printed ones - do you think it’s worth the extra weight? A PETG elevon looks like it’ll weigh about 25g compared to around 4g for the original ones 😬
Look forward to seeing your next flights!
I guess it depends how you fly. I fly the AR Pro quite fast and with agressive turns, dives, rolls and loops and the original foam elevons just could not handle that and I was losing resolution, kind of like a physical expo as the elevons bent and twisted under load. The balsa elevons have transformed the plane and how it handles and performs.
I have not seen a Dolphin in the flesh and am not sure how robust the elevons are or if they have any carbon reinforcement, but in general if you want to push the performance envelope a bit then balsa or PETG stiffer elevons are definitely worth any slight weight gain imo.
My AR Pro's are heavy between 1500 and 1650 grams and I actually like the way they feel in the air with the extra weight, I guess it's what you get used too.
I hope that helps in some small way.
@@bluefish3607 That's really helpful yes, thanks. I'm also going for a more fast/acrobatic build rather than long range, though I can't say I've noticed performance issues with the stock elevons - mainly just looking for excuses to play with the 3D printer :) They are definitely quite bendy though, despite having a small carbon spar along one edge.
I think my Dolphin is running around 700g all up, so an extra 40-50 isn't insignificant, but I suspect it's worth a go (and is a good way to learn some CAD, possibly at the expense of a crashed plane :D )
Maybe the toluene can come next! And congrats on the retirement - look forward to seeing the travel/flying videos! Cheers
What are the dimensions of the cnhl battery your running? Did you have to do any trimming? Love your videos bluefish! Gorgeous build brother
38x50x145mm they are a tight squeeze under the hatch lid especially if you have them tight to the front bulkhead as I do. Glad you like the content 🙏🏻
Such nice builds!!! I think you are going to love the Mini Drak too :)
Based on just watching your MD videos I think I am, can't wait tbh, going to be burning the candle of my MD build now.
@@bluefish3607 Remember to drop me an email!
Looks mint mate!
Cheers, I am pleased with how it turned out, hope she flies as good as she looks.
Hi there, I was right now in the middle of designing some parts for my AR Pro when I found your lovely channel. Lovely parts. Just a question regarding your FC cover. How do you mount it. The thingie with the two pins I guess just pinches into the body. But the front angle thingie is on one side glued to the cover but how to fix it on the plane because I guess you didn’t glued it onto the body?
@@RedAppleApe I bond an M3 plastic stand off into the foam and use a thumbscrew to hold the front of the cover down.
@@bluefish3607 thanks mate, I now designed a small mount to heat in a brass thread and rised the small angle thing.
@@RedAppleApe Yeah those brass inserts are really good.
Hey mate. Just doing the conversion to Balsa Elevons myself thanks to you and your channel 😊. I can't find the files for those prints that go between the balsa and the upgraded horns. Would you mind sending the files?
Hi sorry I am away from home touring Spain but will check my Google drive when I get some wifi with my laptop later today and send you the link if I have uploaded them.
If not I will be back home to my desktop pc on Nov 30th. That said they are only small 25x10x1.5mm plates with rounded corners and a 3mm hole in the centre that you could create in 5 mins with TinkerCad which is free.
Great build you've got there. Can you explain how you wired the RX Nano using the wing plugs? I'm currently building my very first AR Pro/Wing and thats how I've come across your channel. Coming from a multi rotor background connectors are alien to me lol 3 servo wires and 4 nano RX wires going into a 6 pin connector I'm assuming you've used a common ground somewhere how is this achieved?
Hi Dean, I also came from a quad background and my first wing was the AR900, great plane btw.
You are correct I splice the crossfire Nano and servo ground together. I do the join in the section of the channel just after it bends round from the servo to the wing connector. I use shrink wrap to make it all neat and secure after I have soldered the wires together.
I carefully cut the bottom of ther cable channel by running a craft knife along it, not too deep, and then I gently easy the cables and shrink wrap down into that cut groove so that the cables are held tight and do not protrude above the surfaace of the cable channel.
I then wire the Nano 5v RX and TX to the wing connector and throughh to the FC.
I Hope that helps.
That makes perfect sense, thank you. I'm assuming you use a crimping tool to make up the connector for the 5v, Tx and Rx? Might need to put one on my shopping list... as I said above connectors are an alien concept to me but I do see the benefit here so the wings can be detached for transportation.
Many thanks.
@@deancosgrove1522 Yes I use a crimping tool for all of my connections including all connections on the FC, I only really solder the power cables and ESC on the FC.
On my latesdt build I have soldered 90 degree pins onto the Nano and I connect that with a plug in the wing so its easily removable. It can be a pain when you need upgrade firmware or access the little reset button on the Nano.
I got my crimps and connector kit on Amazon there are lots on there if you do a search.
@bluefish3607 that's perfect, thanks for your help. Love your channel. I've learnt a lot. keep up the good work and happy flying.
@@deancosgrove1522 Your very welcome Dean enjoy your AR Pro.
I used your method of E6000 and toluene for my Atom Dolphin. Now just need to get out and fly it.
What do you think to the coating when it dries? Hopefully no crash testing on your maiden, let me know how it goes.
It is really grippy now. Easy to hold and it won’t slip out of my hand when throwing.
@@horsship Yeah I noticed that as well thats why I coat the battery plate stops your lipo slipping around.
Wich plane woud you choose for an Longrange Crouser? The Ar Wing PRO ore the DART XLE? Wich one flyies better?
They both can be excellent long range platforms and fly equally well when cruising, they can both carry large batteries. It rreally comes down to which one you like the look of the most to be honest imo. The AR Pro is better at proximity flying and fast acrobatics etc so if you want to be able to that as well as long range cruising then thats the one to go for.
@@bluefish3607 thanks for the reply. I just want a plane to fly longrange. I think there woud be the dart a little bit better. For proximity flying im using a different wing😂
@@simifpv If you have other wings for proximity then go for the Dart XL, its a cool looking wing, and a fantastic long range platform.
@@bluefish3607 nice thanks
I sometimes think we have reached "peak wing" era as the AR Pro, with all its minor faults, has yet to be surpassed on the Chinese Market. I'd be keen to mid one and move the motor forward so its half inside the wing to get the motor Wright forward so I could run a lot less nose lead to achieve correct c.g. also to run a light weight cam like the insta360 go 2which is super light weight
Hi Andrew, I did consider building a super light AR Pro just to see how it felt compared to my heavyweight builds. I considered moving the ESC and the FC as far forward as possible in the front bay, but I fear the overall design of this wing would still make it difficult without nose weight unless you used a larger lipo which to some extent would defeat the object. If you decide to try the motor forward mod let me know I would like to see that.
All that love and attention into a great model... And then you entrust it all to £2 tower pro servo's ?
Your investment of time and money deserves better!
They are £9 and don't seem too bad they are not the knock off crappy ones from Bangood they are genuine Towerpro and the spec is not that bad, but I am sure I could get some better quality ones.
Any suggestions?
@@bluefish3607 JX servo's are great,
JX PDI-1109MG. Emax ES08MD II is great too.
If you want the servo's to match the quality of the rest of the build, treat yourself to a set of KST DS215 MG's, or GDW DS290MG.
Great servo's are critical to a good build, especially if you're using a FC + stabilisation.
What other chemicals would mix with the E6000 can I just use any lacquer thinner or maybe acetone or something
I really don’t know tbh. Toluene is a chemical component if E6000 so the best option.
Acetone will dissolve the styrofoam material in a heartbeat!
@@ecor1987 to find that out in testing I used zylol