Jim Cornette on The Return Of TNA Wrestling

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  • Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
  • From Episode 505 of the Jim Cornette Experience
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  • @jesuszamora6949
    @jesuszamora6949 11 місяців тому +821

    I can see why they're doing this. People still call it TNA, despite all the rebranding. They could never get away from TNA, so why not embrace it?

    • @GodlessScummer
      @GodlessScummer 11 місяців тому +151

      A bit like how everyone is still calling X Twitter.

    • @jesuszamora6949
      @jesuszamora6949 11 місяців тому +19

      @@GodlessScummer Just about.

    • @shindean
      @shindean 11 місяців тому +45

      Because owners nowadays don't want to be disrespected by extension. Meanwhile, Vince embraced the changes and even made it into Tshirts: "WWE....Get the F out!"

    • @davidburke7777
      @davidburke7777 11 місяців тому +25

      Because Russo named it so Jim can’t get out of his feelings

    • @taylorsmith9629
      @taylorsmith9629 11 місяців тому +23

      Like people still call WWE the WWF

  • @evilshadow8761
    @evilshadow8761 11 місяців тому +324

    In the 2022 royal rumble when AJ styles was in the ring and Robert Roode came up, the crowd shouted TNA TNA TNA. The wrestling world misses TNA.

    • @davidburke7777
      @davidburke7777 11 місяців тому +9

      And that’s why Smokey Mountain Wrestling was a complete failure. Jim doesn’t have a clue how to run a wrestling company

    • @Rowri88
      @Rowri88 11 місяців тому +46

      @@davidburke7777Literally all territories were dying during the WWF’s expansion, Jim saw the writing on the wall and sold the company to Vince before it was too late, thus making him rich 😂 I wouldn’t call that a failure

    • @davidburke7777
      @davidburke7777 11 місяців тому +7

      @@Rowri88 Yeah setting up a business and having to sell it to a place you hate is really successful. Jim is one of the best mangers of all time, underrated commentator too but terrible at booking and running a company.

    • @matheusgk55
      @matheusgk55 11 місяців тому

      sure litte man@@davidburke7777

    • @RG-lr4pk
      @RG-lr4pk 11 місяців тому +9

      The only people that watch wrestling in 2023 is the small group that watched TNA

  • @obsoleteworlds
    @obsoleteworlds 11 місяців тому +59

    Harsh. TNA wasn't always garbage. When it was an hour long "adrenaline rush" with Samoa Joe, Styles, Daniels with Don West shilling his heart out it was a great alternative. That TNA was genuinely great.

    • @davidiihouston6883
      @davidiihouston6883 11 місяців тому +2

      It wasn't. Like AEW now, it would be very uneven. Great quality action but bizarre booking.

    • @impulse_xs
      @impulse_xs 11 місяців тому +3

      @@davidiihouston6883 I’d take 2005/06 TNA over any moment of AEW ever lmao

    • @davidiihouston6883
      @davidiihouston6883 11 місяців тому +1

      @@impulse_xs this isn't about AEW at all. Even if someone doesn't like them or WWE or Impact or whoever, it's better they're all strong than not. Past time more fans grew up.

    • @impulse_xs
      @impulse_xs 11 місяців тому +3

      @@davidiihouston6883
      You: “This isn’t about AEW”
      Also you: “It wasn’t. Like AEW now, it would be very uneven. Great quality action but bizarre booking”
      You literally compared the two lol

    • @davidiihouston6883
      @davidiihouston6883 11 місяців тому +1

      @@impulse_xs I referenced them because of the similarity. You decided that was an opening for an irrelevant attack instead of just talking about TNA.
      Not the same thing.

  • @Kooljetton91
    @Kooljetton91 11 місяців тому +373

    I know Jim has negative memories about TNA but I would take ‘05-‘09 TNA wrestling over AEW’s entire existence.

    • @mjdf122
      @mjdf122 11 місяців тому +21

      2002-2007

    • @justinwalters7953
      @justinwalters7953 11 місяців тому

      So…..1 pile of shit over 2 piles of shit. The common denominator is…..shit.

    • @-JAVY-
      @-JAVY- 11 місяців тому +28

      Robert roode as heavyweight champ was money. When he had a legit top guy push

    • @YellowJeep
      @YellowJeep 11 місяців тому +39

      I would take a Velvet Sky ring entrance over AEW's entire existence. 😂

    • @DIESEL0759
      @DIESEL0759 11 місяців тому +11

      Good thing Impact isn't AEW. There was a reason WWF never paid attention to WCW until they started playing with WWF by shitting on their shows. Impact needs to pay attention to their product, AEW needs to pay attention to their product. This is why WWE is the biggest. They do their own thing and don't pay attention to try to copy someone else. Unless, of course, you want every wrestling promotion to copy each other,. All-Elite Tits and Ass Wrestling. Only the best naked oil wrestlers.

  • @poodlehorn2438
    @poodlehorn2438 11 місяців тому +404

    To be fair, no matter what they have called it over the years, I have still been calling it TNA

    • @Kai_Oti
      @Kai_Oti 11 місяців тому +9

      That's part of why they are changing it back

    • @kaujuanrichey7100
      @kaujuanrichey7100 11 місяців тому +3

      Me too

    • @TheDON914
      @TheDON914 11 місяців тому +2

      Same

    • @SuperFunkmachine
      @SuperFunkmachine 11 місяців тому

      It's TNA decades later still TNA, its tit's an ass.
      All elite? who are they? the all elite the best of the best, i guess there pros, look X is on the bill .

    • @jeidizzle7966
      @jeidizzle7966 11 місяців тому +2

      Honestly, I think we all have. I have, and every wrestling fan I know does. It's like the name change wasn't honored by any TNA fan ever.

  • @juansanchez209
    @juansanchez209 11 місяців тому +141

    I understand Jim’s feelings on the “TNA” branding, but as a longtime fan I COMPLETELY welcome the change back to TNA. “Impact” is an unknown brand where’s “TNA” has some equity behind it

    • @trahapace150
      @trahapace150 11 місяців тому +10

      tna isnt worth shit stop it.....

    • @TotalCruiserBabe
      @TotalCruiserBabe 11 місяців тому +27

      ​@@trahapace150 TNA has more value than AEW, you stop it

    • @userjim83
      @userjim83 11 місяців тому +3

      Its nothing other than a nostalgia hit for a small amount of people and nostalgia wears off very quickly. They should have wound the company up years and years ago.

    • @Adam-yt7yc
      @Adam-yt7yc 11 місяців тому +4

      ​@TotalCruiserBabe Define value. Listen say whatever you want about AEW, but they're closer to legitimate competition to WWE then TNA ever was lol. They're closest since WCW by every conceivable relevant metric.

    • @jacobsnipes6244
      @jacobsnipes6244 11 місяців тому +5

      @@TotalCruiserBabetna gets under 100k viewers a week😂

  • @crucifixmegabuster95
    @crucifixmegabuster95 11 місяців тому +69

    As a person who grew up with the tna impact name. Especially the 3 years from 06-09 was fantastic. The name has some nostalgia to it for people in their mid to late 20s and early 30s. When wwe was making Shelton have a momma and other stuff tna gave us the X division. Kurt angle and joe etc

    • @joeyskywalker1322
      @joeyskywalker1322 11 місяців тому +9

      I’m 25 about to be 26 next month I loved TNA use to Watch faithfully every week on Spike

    • @-JAVY-
      @-JAVY- 11 місяців тому +5

      Matt Morgan and beer money were top notch at that time

    • @quentinkaasa47
      @quentinkaasa47 11 місяців тому +4

      Kurt was World Heavyweight champion on SmackDown when Mama Benjamin was around. And don't act like TNA didn't do sillier stuff. They did a full episode story arc where Kurt was walking around in a speedo backstage with Borash, threatening and assaulting random people because someone stole his clothes while tanning. 😅

    • @a_ya5555
      @a_ya5555 11 місяців тому +1

      No just no. Joe was pure cringe at that time. Wrestling fans have clearly become very dumb.

    • @4cuttime
      @4cuttime 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@quentinkaasa47lmao I remember that 😂

  • @Helmer54
    @Helmer54 11 місяців тому +158

    I don't think people are nostalgic for old crumpy I think we're nostalgic for like 2004-2007/2008 TNA. TNA fans are what ECW fans were in mid 2000's.

    • @SpanishFly120
      @SpanishFly120 11 місяців тому +19

      Yeah, when people think of TNA, they're looking back on the 2004-2009 years (though I remember 2002-2003 having a lot of good in it too). I can't blame them for wanting to pretend the Hogan years never happened.

    • @iThinkMyNamesBenH
      @iThinkMyNamesBenH 11 місяців тому +7

      True, I loved TNA. They were my gateway to weekly wrestling. I never had Sky Sports as a kid but I did have the wrestling channel on freeview sky, then Bravo.

    • @dhdurhueur-qe5pn
      @dhdurhueur-qe5pn 11 місяців тому +3

      That was also crummy

    • @NintendoPsycho
      @NintendoPsycho 11 місяців тому +2

      TNA was always outlaw bush league.@@SpanishFly120

    • @IrateTurkey
      @IrateTurkey 11 місяців тому +3

      Late 2005 to late 2006 TNA was excellent. It kind of fell off a cliff afterwards which is a shame because they got a more well rounded roster after.

  • @I_Am_Hateful
    @I_Am_Hateful 11 місяців тому +702

    TNA coming back was a bigger deal than anything AEW did that week

    • @demonsuckafucka6828
      @demonsuckafucka6828 11 місяців тому +46

      Can't disagree

    • @matthewking7960
      @matthewking7960 11 місяців тому +62

      You know AEW is doing great when ya bring up AEW in a video that has nothing to do with it lol

    • @malikevans2615
      @malikevans2615 11 місяців тому +92

      ​@matthewking7960 that's not how that works

    • @Julian-xj6mh
      @Julian-xj6mh 11 місяців тому +37

      ​@@matthewking7960that's not how life works child with afro

    • @ElmoKnowsWhereYouLive5150
      @ElmoKnowsWhereYouLive5150 11 місяців тому +4

      #sadbuttrue

  • @TihetrisWeathersby
    @TihetrisWeathersby 11 місяців тому +78

    2005-09 and 2012-13 Was probably my favorite period of the company

  • @davidburke7777
    @davidburke7777 11 місяців тому +63

    Way more people know it as TNA. Makes perfect business sense.

    • @NintendoPsycho
      @NintendoPsycho 11 місяців тому +1

      Except it all got worse since then.

  • @billyfields7722
    @billyfields7722 11 місяців тому +20

    I remember that the TNA wrestling was returning to the original name. The Women's Division was the best women's division in professional wrestling before NXT women's division that's took over.

  • @JohnnyDouchbag-nr5yf
    @JohnnyDouchbag-nr5yf 11 місяців тому +24

    The Woooooo off between Flair and Lethal will never be topped

    • @-JAVY-
      @-JAVY- 11 місяців тому +3

      Scott steiner promo???

    • @highlordlaughterofcanada8685
      @highlordlaughterofcanada8685 10 місяців тому

      Good choice, but the Scott Steiner Math promo will be the best moment for me

  • @LordRaptor
    @LordRaptor 11 місяців тому +22

    Jeff Jarrett said that nobody outside of the US even calls them Impact Wrestling, even business related people would still refer to them as TNA, so maybe they're just tired of pretending they aren't and getting backlash for it.

    • @Anicade
      @Anicade 11 місяців тому

      Impact themselves said this as well

    • @nappa1413
      @nappa1413 3 місяці тому

      this, also no one outside the US even knows the tits and ass meme, only american boomers probably do

  • @syko2695
    @syko2695 11 місяців тому +16

    2004 to 2009 TNA was fantastic to the point that I got a bunch of childhood memories watching it and never stopped calling it that so I see this as a win

  • @80srocknroller
    @80srocknroller 11 місяців тому +75

    TNA 2002-2009 was very special

    • @njboy7
      @njboy7 11 місяців тому +2

      It was amazing

    • @csharp57
      @csharp57 11 місяців тому +8

      No it wasn’t. It was just something different from WWE. It was crap

    • @mahakalavanilla6263
      @mahakalavanilla6263 11 місяців тому +5

      I’ve watched the acclaimed Daniels-Joe-AJ match since the name change announcement. Good shit, pal! They had a great roster in the 2000s. I’m glad a few of their homegrown talents were able to make careers in WWE and Japan

    • @tysontomko
      @tysontomko 11 місяців тому +4

      ​@@csharp57you clearly need to feel the POUNCEEEEEEE... ... ... ... PERIOD

    • @mjdf122
      @mjdf122 11 місяців тому +2

      2002-2007

  • @hitmaneoin
    @hitmaneoin 11 місяців тому +13

    I'm truly curious who in Impact/TNA mgmt peed in Brian's cheerios many years ago? His vendetta against the company is unyielding despite him clearly not watching the product in many years...

    • @THESERIOUSLYSMILE
      @THESERIOUSLYSMILE 11 місяців тому

      My guess is that he really is a fan of old school wrestling. Not really what TNA got themselves over for, especially in their glory years, 2005-2009.
      Perhaps he just remember it for the intensely russo-esque presentation and storylines and really dislike it for that matter.

  • @TihetrisWeathersby
    @TihetrisWeathersby 11 місяців тому +82

    TNA's history good or bad is a history that people know about, Impact Wrestling has no history

    • @amirpourghoureiyan1637
      @amirpourghoureiyan1637 11 місяців тому +7

      the history of Impact is that it was a shell of its former self and was dead in the wrestling world.

    • @jameswesten2018
      @jameswesten2018 11 місяців тому +1

      This's Not Awesome Wrestling

    • @userjim83
      @userjim83 11 місяців тому +12

      Nazism has a history people know about but i doubt Germany will be bringing that back.

    • @wilcee238
      @wilcee238 11 місяців тому +6

      @userjim83 🤣 I did “not-see” that joke arriving!

    • @RainmakerXBooty
      @RainmakerXBooty 11 місяців тому +3

      @@userjim83Lmfaoo

  • @chrono050
    @chrono050 11 місяців тому +14

    I never stopped referring to it as TNA.

  • @Epsilonsama
    @Epsilonsama 11 місяців тому +19

    As someone who watched TNA around 06-09 I'm nostalgic for the name TNA.

  • @FaysalIsGoated
    @FaysalIsGoated 11 місяців тому +17

    Even though TNA won’t be as big as it once was in 2008/2009, it’s nice to see them go back to their old roots.

    • @davidiihouston6883
      @davidiihouston6883 11 місяців тому +1

      It's better off now as they can actually sell tickets to events, something they struggled with before.

  • @Apocalypse3434
    @Apocalypse3434 11 місяців тому +14

    Never really followed it but TNA has a soft spot for me. I was at the very first show in Huntsville, AL in 2002. A week or so prior I got to meet Jeff Jarrett who was near my house promoting the event and got a picture with him. Nice guy.

    • @jesterr7133
      @jesterr7133 11 місяців тому +1

      Jeff is pretty cool. I kinda got to know him a little bit when he was wrestling in Memphis in the early 90s. Jeff, his tag partner Robert Fuller (Col.Rob Parker/Tennessee Lee), the Moondogs, and even Giant Gonzales would hang out after the matches and talk to fans for a while. I went as often as possible, and would talk to Jeff whenever I went. I got to know him well enough that he would recognize me and come say hi. He was a nice guy.

  • @iamdb1990
    @iamdb1990 11 місяців тому +21

    1, that is the most Shitstain pose ever
    2, I love how it's gone full circle, for years everyone said TNA would be dead, and not only is it not dead, it's literally being re-birthed lol

  • @samwoodson9603
    @samwoodson9603 8 місяців тому +4

    I liked TNA as a kid. It had a grit that WWE didn’t have at the time. It was a nice alternative. It had great tag teams like the Motor City Machine Guns, LAX, Dudley Bros, and Beer Money Inc in a time where WWE had hardly any legit tag teams. It’s women’s division shit all over WWE’s at the time. It had what is is still my favorite Kurt Angle run. AJ Styles was this new, amazing talent to behold. Scott Steiner and Booker T were funny as shit. I think it’s biggest downfall is that it couldn’t do long-term booking for shit. The roster was insanely stacked in that 2005-2009 era. It still feels like a much more legitimate alternative than AEW ever had been and with a fraction of the budget.

  • @kingpen6432
    @kingpen6432 11 місяців тому +37

    I liked the old TNA for the reason it was a alternative from wwe. Back in the day it was what AEW was promised to be. I think they are better than AEW is today. Controversial yes, but they have been better lately. I also like that they seem to willing to try different things, they don't always work. But it isn't bad for new things to happen if they stick.

    • @Rowri88
      @Rowri88 11 місяців тому +6

      Ya early to mid 2000s TNA was unique and original! New wrestlers, new fresh gimmicks, different ring, unique divisions. Everything about it was different than WWE and it was really exciting

    • @kingpen6432
      @kingpen6432 11 місяців тому +2

      @Rowri88 absolutely. I'll never forget finding it on cable one day. I was like "oh hey, this Jarrett vs. Monty Brown looks amazing."

    • @FggfGffg-kg8qo
      @FggfGffg-kg8qo 11 місяців тому +1

      Yes. New things can be bad

    • @jpmiller7922
      @jpmiller7922 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@kingpen6432Chris Sabin drew me into the very first TNA match I watched, but I was sure Monty Brown was gonna be a star.

    • @kingpen6432
      @kingpen6432 11 місяців тому +1

      @jpmiller7922 Sabin was epic. And kinda still is, those younger days of his was the best just cause of nostalgia alone. And Monty Brown should have taken that strap! That would have been a damn rocket on his back. JJ doing the job on his own show to a young, talented up and Comer.

  • @gonzalogca4907
    @gonzalogca4907 11 місяців тому +18

    Jeff Jarrett left the company because he stole the wife of their biggest star the first time and got drunk in Mexico the second time.
    I agree a lot with Jim, but he denying JJ’s responsibility in the fall of TNA is very cringe.

    • @anthonydeadman
      @anthonydeadman 11 місяців тому +3

      He's biased as hell with Jeff Jarrett and it shows.

    • @a_ya5555
      @a_ya5555 11 місяців тому

      Dixie carter,ruined it, not Jarret.

    • @anthonydeadman
      @anthonydeadman 11 місяців тому +2

      @@victor.elkins I'm well aware Dixie and Russo were the biggest reason for TNA's decline during the early 2010's.
      But Jeff Jarrett was just as much of a problem long before Hogan came into the picture.
      Not as big of a problem as Hogan was, but had just as much of an ego.

    • @davidiihouston6883
      @davidiihouston6883 11 місяців тому

      I know he loves Jeff but people acting like Jeff wasn't a major contributor to the many dysfunctions of the original TNA are delusional.

  • @gm2998
    @gm2998 11 місяців тому +20

    I really miss mid 00's wrestling. It was not only the best of TNA, but also ROH, NOAH and last time WWE was great.

    • @josereyes1148
      @josereyes1148 11 місяців тому

      I'm guessing you were born in 1997

    • @gm2998
      @gm2998 11 місяців тому +1

      @@josereyes1148 No, some years earlier. But in my country we only got mid 90's WWF broadcast and just some months of WCW. On 00's I got access to NOAH and NJPW as well, and WWE was broadcasted again along with TNA.

  • @PresidentClambake
    @PresidentClambake 11 місяців тому +8

    Maybe it was because I was quite young(12 ish) when I started watching TNA, I loved it. 2006-2012 Kurt Angle was absolutely insane, and they had some real talents(styles, Kaz, Daniels, Skipper, Ron Killings, etc) and I was probably too young to care if it was "bad for business"

  • @strokeofgeniusvideo9409
    @strokeofgeniusvideo9409 11 місяців тому +13

    It's clear that Jim and Brian are not keeping up with what's going on in Impact, and have no idea how succesful they've been lately.

    • @THERobertL2000
      @THERobertL2000 11 місяців тому +2

      Yup 💯

    • @davidiihouston6883
      @davidiihouston6883 11 місяців тому +2

      Not keeping up and not even trying. Last thinks they don't have leadership with a vision???? Dumbest thing he's said all year.

    • @strokeofgeniusvideo9409
      @strokeofgeniusvideo9409 11 місяців тому +1

      @davidiihouston6883 they can really just say nothing, it's ok!

    • @TokenBrotha
      @TokenBrotha 11 місяців тому +1

      They also do what a lot of kids here do, the “Well *I* have never heard of so & so, therefore *no one* knows who they are” bit

  • @MilMaska
    @MilMaska 11 місяців тому +14

    "You can on the witness protection program and still be safe on Impact" - Jim Cornette

    • @tomwigal8856
      @tomwigal8856 11 місяців тому +1

      Unless you pick up the progressing Illustrated top 500 and you see Josh Alexander and deonna purrazzo and Masha slamovich who are all in the top 25 I find Jim cornette very funny and very engaging and I love it podcast but he is wrong on this

  • @chubbycatfish4573
    @chubbycatfish4573 11 місяців тому +5

    Every single person I know has always called it TNA, even after they changed the name. I'm sure most people have, so they must have finally accepted their fate.

  • @PaxBisonica89
    @PaxBisonica89 11 місяців тому +2

    Impact and especially Scott D'amore have been doing extremely well the past two years. They have the best women's Division in north America. A super fun Tag and X-divsion, And a maint event scene thats constantly has something fun going on.
    It's a shame some people still have "opinions" on something they saw 5-6 years ago and project that on the current product instead of doing some research.

  • @christophergargaro959
    @christophergargaro959 11 місяців тому +5

    "One word: HEAT"

  • @SteelSunday
    @SteelSunday 11 місяців тому +3

    "T&A" isn't really a well known slang phrase outside of America, so globally the name TNA wasn't considered that bad or a joke, maybe why it worked better on a global scale.

  • @reaperstall9321
    @reaperstall9321 11 місяців тому +10

    Can take a vote !!!! I for one would love for Jim to watch anything impact or tna going forward I would love for him to do a review of bound for glory, ABC versus the rascals, Mike Bailey versus Will osprey, Alex Shelly and Josh Alexander there are good matches to be seen if you take time away from dumping on the company!!!

    • @wilcee238
      @wilcee238 11 місяців тому +3

      Those matches were hot garbage and they hired Sonny Kiss.
      TNA is just a glorified AEW show.

    • @Voysh2Voysh69
      @Voysh2Voysh69 11 місяців тому +2

      Let me give you a preview of Cornette’s review:
      “And then… Brian… HAWWWW… we had Will Ostrich versus a shoeless gymnastic guy who goes by the name “Speedball.” Isn’t a speedball a form of drugs, Brian? So we got an Ostrich vs a barefoot drug addict. And they did all the loop-de-loops and have-a-Coronas that all these neckbeard fans love. And it went 10,000 miles per hour, never slowed down, and got all the “This Is Awesome” chants from the fat virgins that love this crap…. HAAAWWWW!”

    • @alexfromsolitude
      @alexfromsolitude 11 місяців тому +2

      @@Voysh2Voysh69 I mean... that's how the match will be and he won't be wrong.

    • @davidiihouston6883
      @davidiihouston6883 11 місяців тому +1

      Right? Before you spent 20 min dumping on it, watch the show. Give yourself some credibility on the topic.

  • @prestonpfeiffer
    @prestonpfeiffer 11 місяців тому +6

    If WWE went back to WWF I guarantee you’d get ppl watching again just because. Nostalgia can be profitable if marketed right & not abused.

    • @marvinleong5902
      @marvinleong5902 11 місяців тому

      As long as the stupid panda is still in business, they aren't reverting back without another lawsuits from the panda

  • @nickonite
    @nickonite 11 місяців тому +6

    Honestly they are going back to TNA because of the long time fans. For me I still think of it as TNA. However if Jeff would have given it a better name than Russos idea. This all could have been avoided.

  • @timmelkoonce8609
    @timmelkoonce8609 11 місяців тому +4

    Why is it that Jim cannot seem to keep his mouth shut when it comes to Vince Russo?! He must like getting sued I guess. 😀 Then again, hurling insults and veiled threats against Russo is likely the only way the old man feels like a bad ass! I often wonder what would have happened if Jim had ever followed through on any of those threats against Vince Russo? Oh I know, he would be in jail or got beaten up or killed by a much younger man in self defense! 😂

  • @derekstrongest
    @derekstrongest 11 місяців тому +3

    I disagree with Brian about TNA never being the innovator. Both the X Division and The Knockouts division preceded anything that the WWE tried to do that was similar by a decade(NXT and making women's wrestling the focus for a good portion of the show)

  • @mikebarnes1239
    @mikebarnes1239 11 місяців тому +4

    bound for glory this year was awesome

  • @joeytocd
    @joeytocd 11 місяців тому +4

    Hopefully this version of TNA gets a proper shot at the big time, because more promotions thriving makes for a better experience for fans, makes for a better landscape for wrestlers.
    If I were running it, I'd be monitoring the contractual statuses of all the originals and influential names that contributed to the growth and success of TNA. TNA needs a solid mix of young indie talent, a good handful of veterans, and some recognizable, “mainstream” talent that can garner viewership and ticket sales.

    • @nybxcrotona
      @nybxcrotona 11 місяців тому +1

      They seem to have that now: Alexander, Bey, Trey Miguel, Ace Austin on young talent, Eric Young and MCMG on vets, Bully Ray, Tommy Dreamer, Trinity, Mickie James on recognizable talent.
      I hope they don't try to do too much too quickly, because they're at a good point now of packing small venues, and traveling around.

  • @P4nnu_
    @P4nnu_ 11 місяців тому +2

    We are in the era of nostalgia, so makes sense why they would go back to TNA. People are looking backwards to things they found enjoyable, endearing or comforting due to how bad everything modern is becoming. Wrestling is a microcosm of that, that so many fans are burnt by today’s product they yearn for yesteryear

  • @RedDawnRocker
    @RedDawnRocker 11 місяців тому +12

    Jeff Jarrett spoke on his podcast a few days back about how Anthem's change of the name in the first place was against his advice. He also mentioned that the change was only for North America and how most countries never experienced the change and it's always been TNA Wrestling and still are. They've been bringing back all the former talent over the last year or two; The Motor City Machineguns, Bully Ray (and in the case of recent appearances D-von as well), America's Most Wanted, Frankie Kazarian (and his wife Traci Brooks), Christopher Daniels, Eric Young (alongside Scott D'Amore and A-1 of Team Canada), Little Guido, Nick Aldis (immediately prior to his WWE debut) and a bunch of others. Ace Steel id now working in the back and Punk (was most likely visiting Ace Steele, Mickey James and others) has been visiting there lately but no one knows what his situation is at the moment.

    • @a_ya5555
      @a_ya5555 11 місяців тому

      It was boring then, it's boring now. Bringing back back the,dudleys is cringe.

    • @tomwigal8856
      @tomwigal8856 11 місяців тому

      ​@@a_ya5555legit question when's the last time you watched if you watch lately and you still say it's boring then you must be a garbage match bullshit wrestling fan because that's not what they're doing now

  • @killerk3431
    @killerk3431 11 місяців тому +4

    Jim saying that its unnatural to only have one intimate partner in your life is a weird boomer thing to say. Sorry Jimmy but that was a miss

    • @prestonpfeiffer
      @prestonpfeiffer 11 місяців тому +1

      I cringed and FF. I love Jim but its always weird when he brings that up to bash Russo. There’s a million things to bash him for but that one is dumb.

  • @KoolKid2K4
    @KoolKid2K4 11 місяців тому +3

    I find it funny wrestling fans shit on Russo, but enjoyed watching the product when he was head of creative of those shows. I truly miss TNA from 2005-2010 last wrestling show i watched weekly. Both WWE & AEW now are unwatchable.

  • @American_Nightmare
    @American_Nightmare 11 місяців тому +3

    Lmao Keith Lee in the thumbnail look crazy

  • @Mr.Majestic77
    @Mr.Majestic77 11 місяців тому +7

    TNA Wrestling > All Elite Wrestling
    Can Jim Cornette & Brian Last re-start their reviews of TNA Wrestling? This is a new era of TNA Wrestling that will more than likely be a better product than All Elite Wrestling.

    • @johnjones8888
      @johnjones8888 11 місяців тому

      I'm not sure it's a new era..... Stupid ass cartoon character Scott D'More is still there.

    • @matt92550
      @matt92550 11 місяців тому

      Lay off the sauce

    • @staticJ7
      @staticJ7 11 місяців тому

      Nah, they can continue hate watching AEW

  • @mynameisjeff830
    @mynameisjeff830 11 місяців тому +4

    One of the main reasons why they switched back has to do with their international audience and tv companies. Now as for the product as a whole, their shows have been good lately except that battle royal but the matches and talent has been improved but they still need a better tv deal

  • @floricanstv2345
    @floricanstv2345 11 місяців тому +4

    For the first time I don’t agree with this podcast, what TNA did 20 years ago is what Wwe and AEW is doing today, x division style wrestling, AEW old stage with tunnels, aj styles, Samoa Joe and other things. For the first time TNA has a real chance to become an alternative, what AEW was supposed to do but yet fails miserably

    • @muryt12
      @muryt12 11 місяців тому +1

      Hey man,if you disagree with this old grandpa for the first time ever then I need to tell you,don't ever agree with him ever again.

    • @floricanstv2345
      @floricanstv2345 11 місяців тому +2

      @@muryt12 i more then convince that he is not real, he is more a gimmick.

  • @kidvillain188
    @kidvillain188 11 місяців тому +3

    I will say for someone who hasn't watched a Impact/TNA show for 3 years I really enjoyed that PPV.

  • @elberno4243
    @elberno4243 11 місяців тому +2

    When Swinger, Juvi, and Rhyno were in the BFG Gauntlet, there was an ECW chant... Let's rebrand!

  • @JasonSum1979
    @JasonSum1979 11 місяців тому +12

    Clips like this is a prime example why Jim is called a shock jock…. He’s doesn’t watch Impact so they suck (When in reality over the last 3 yrs they have become the best kept secret in North America) it’s become hip to trash Impact/TNA so people do…. Despite the ups and downs they have outlived WCW, ECW, SMW etc. but, they still get very little respect i don’t understand why these (2) can’t be a little optimistic instead it’s them pointing out there past mistakes even though they don’t even watch The promotion same thing with NWA (NWA 75 was actually a outstanding PPV) But, Pro Wrestling fans live in a bubble and can’t make up there own minds they have to be spoon feed what to watch! Ironically LOLAEW has yet to become a thing but, people can’t give Impact/TNA a second chance! Such a strange hypocrisy within the pro wrestling fan base

    • @muryt12
      @muryt12 11 місяців тому +1

      What do you expect from a crying old grandma who had to sell his own show in less than 2 years because it was a major flop? I expect him to complain. And that's what he does 24/7. And his crybaby brainless fans cheer for him for that.

    • @NeckbeardIndustries
      @NeckbeardIndustries 11 місяців тому +1

      one of the best writeups so far!

    • @davidburke7777
      @davidburke7777 11 місяців тому +1

      If TNA was that bad how come it’s gone on way longer than his promotion Smokey mountain wrestling did. Jim talks a big game but doesn’t have a clue how to run a company

  • @emperortrevornorton3119
    @emperortrevornorton3119 11 місяців тому +29

    TNA coming back is probably the biggest thing in pro wrestling in the last couple years

    • @andisuge
      @andisuge 11 місяців тому

      It wasn't Jericho making excuses?😂😂😂😂😂

    • @sebastianbruckwilder5720
      @sebastianbruckwilder5720 11 місяців тому +1

      Yeah because nothing else happened in the last 2 years ^^

    • @jakeyboi8679
      @jakeyboi8679 11 місяців тому +5

      Not Vince retiring🤔

    • @bernardheadspeth9001
      @bernardheadspeth9001 11 місяців тому +5

      Vince retiring? CM Punk? What a mark!😂😂😂

    • @drewburnettepodcasts
      @drewburnettepodcasts 11 місяців тому +6

      Except that it's nowhere near that level....
      Vince retiring
      WWE being sold
      Bray Wyatt dying
      Gunther's IC Title reign
      Roman's world title reigns
      Cody leaving AEW for WWE
      CM Punk's return
      CM Punk's scrum scandal
      CM Punk's fight with Jack Perry
      Debut of Collision
      Plane ride from Hell scandal
      Supposed Wembley attendance record
      Edge to AEW
      Steph leaves WWE
      Etc Etc Etc Etc Etc

  • @enigma_offixial
    @enigma_offixial 11 місяців тому +5

    Its been long enough since theyve been TNA for the die hards it could elicite more positive memories and draw better attention. Regardless its better news that anything from AEW's 25 shows

    • @nybxcrotona
      @nybxcrotona 11 місяців тому

      Given how forums have been more positive with Cena coming back now than they were in the past, it seems to hold true the nostalgia value is doing them favors.

  • @The_Deal
    @The_Deal 11 місяців тому +6

    Impact was always TNA for me, however, the name TNA does have negative connotations to those who don’t know what it is or ever watched it. I am hoping that they will succeed with this hurdle. That being said, this would be a great opportunity for them to compete with AEW as the second U.S. based wrestling organization. Let’s see what happens.

    • @nbaldwin45
      @nbaldwin45 11 місяців тому +1

      Agreed. Chances are nothing is going to change but combine this with Corgan’s plans for NWA and suddenly indie wrestling is looking exciting for a hot minute.

    • @tomwigal8856
      @tomwigal8856 11 місяців тому

      Not in North America it doesn't which is why one of the reasons they're going back to the name because they do a lot of business in England add places like that and they never considered DNA to be anything other than Total Nonstop Action

  • @mudshowmark2143
    @mudshowmark2143 11 місяців тому +2

    TNA was the better brand. All the growth and success was under the TNA brand, there is value in it. Impact is lulz joke brand worth nothing but scorn and pity.

  • @lanceortmann4157
    @lanceortmann4157 11 місяців тому +5

    There are only 2 things worth remembering from TNA. Velvet Sky and Scott Steiner promos.

  • @ReapFamily
    @ReapFamily 11 місяців тому +1

    If they could get back to the roots of what TNA was supposed to be and was from 02-09, they could truly be a breath of fresh air in modern wrestling. I watch classic wrestling 95% of the time because the business has become a shell of its former self.

  • @jovanss2361
    @jovanss2361 11 місяців тому +2

    I don't watch TNA, but man not everything is not as doom and gloom as they say

  • @662chillin
    @662chillin 11 місяців тому +1

    Even if Brian and JC seem negative about TNA returning, there's no denying they're survivors and a better product than AEW now.

  • @akamiguelsanchez9985
    @akamiguelsanchez9985 11 місяців тому +2

    That company has has as many names as Saraya has had sausage dinners.

  • @NNNateMMMate
    @NNNateMMMate 9 місяців тому +2

    I wanna see them make a huge comeback

  • @DavidDexterGaming
    @DavidDexterGaming 11 місяців тому +2

    I loved Dixie's TNA

  • @ActorJose4Real
    @ActorJose4Real 11 місяців тому +3

    Finally!! I knew Jim was gonna give his thoughts & feelings about this.

    • @StevenPatrick-iw6mk
      @StevenPatrick-iw6mk 11 місяців тому +5

      You knew he was gonna shit on it he just going off old narrative doesn't pay attention to product

    • @ActorJose4Real
      @ActorJose4Real 11 місяців тому +1

      @@StevenPatrick-iw6mk I respect Cornette, but he takes so long to discuss a topic that becomes old news.

  • @THESERIOUSLYSMILE
    @THESERIOUSLYSMILE 11 місяців тому +2

    One of the few occasions I completely disagree with Jim and Brian.
    And it's so good to see the people in the comment section doing the same, almost unanimously.
    For me it was Total Nonstop Action since 2006 when I first saw it. This year was the first time when I heard the "tits n ass" mockery, in one of russo's promos from the early days of the company. It was replayed on a youtube show that does reviews of old NWA-TNA episodes, but besides that, I never knew it was a thing and never before saw a comment or a clip talking about it. And I watch a lot of stuff related to old TNA...

  • @LongLiveRockAnRoll
    @LongLiveRockAnRoll 11 місяців тому +1

    The awkward moment when TNA/Impact (which is supposedly about to die at any moment) has been in business almost twice as long as WCW and over 2 times as long as ECW.

  • @joseroselli1034
    @joseroselli1034 11 місяців тому +7

    At this point I have more hope for TNA being an alternative to WWE then AEW.....

  • @TheGreatVivek7
    @TheGreatVivek7 11 місяців тому +1

    They changed their not because it didn’t work, but because there were legal implications.

  • @Costas22
    @Costas22 11 місяців тому +3

    It won't bring in a 2nd golden era for the brand as some people from the company have suggested, but it's the most logical move this company has made in 6 years. I never got why they changed it to begin with.
    Who cares what "TNA" alludes to, who came up with it or what their motives were. It's what this company was known as and the name with which it reached the heights it did in 2008-2011. Rebranding it as "Impact Wrestling" hardly won them over any new fans.

    • @josereyes1148
      @josereyes1148 11 місяців тому

      And bringing TNA back probably won't win any new fans either.

  • @diluted8
    @diluted8 11 місяців тому +1

    Remember in WWF, Test and Albert, their tag team was called TNA, managed by Trish Stratus

  • @KidGravityBeyond
    @KidGravityBeyond 11 місяців тому +3

    “TNA” is when they had the most success.

  • @ButWhatIfItIs
    @ButWhatIfItIs 11 місяців тому +2

    It may have become synonymous with ex wwe wrestlers etc showing up, but they had a lot going for them too plus there's loads more highlights etc I could look back on happily there in just a two year period (2005-2007) compared with a lot that WWE and AEW have produced in recent years.

  • @francispatenaude3587
    @francispatenaude3587 11 місяців тому +3

    it's about going back to the 05-09 TNA... I think that vignette was made in bad faith...
    TNA has been more consistent than any other promotion in the past two years (after the murdrr mystery era)...
    It's about acknowledging that post 05-09 was bad... and that they're going to their roots.
    I can guarantee it will be better than anything AEW puts together eight now.

  • @NeroBorgata26
    @NeroBorgata26 11 місяців тому +1

    I was waiting for this from Jim and Brian 🤣🤣❤️

  • @itzsombra10
    @itzsombra10 11 місяців тому +4

    Travis doesn’t miss

  • @cmjohnson85
    @cmjohnson85 10 місяців тому +1

    Jim's plug for the draftkings had me dying at work. If Basketball was booked like a late 90s Wrestling event. I would watch every game.

  • @johnanderson1536
    @johnanderson1536 11 місяців тому +3

    I'm rooting for them

  • @Redwulf2778
    @Redwulf2778 11 місяців тому +1

    The second I saw Fat Albert and "Rudy" Cornette, the Fat Albert theme started playing in my head.

  • @andrewc247
    @andrewc247 11 місяців тому +2

    When I heard of TNA returning an hour ago, I went looking for Jim’s reaction straight away! 😂

  • @job489
    @job489 11 місяців тому +1

    Although I don't care for TNA, I give them props for remaining active since 2002. Despite many changes in the brand, creative team, wrestling roster, etc.; they're still in business with a strong fan base. Despite any hatred and claims TNA would go out of business in its early days, they're still achieving modest success today. Unless going back to TNA will cause them to lose their fan base, partnerships with network(s) or sponsors, I believe they'll exist beyond my lifetime.

  • @fernandorivera2131
    @fernandorivera2131 11 місяців тому +3

    TNA being here for a while now, TNA lasted more then WCW (1988-2001), and ECW (1992-2001) they could throw shit at them but they being here for 21 years if im not mistaken.
    i support them even if i don't keep up with their show, but i keep my eyes on the good segments and Wrestler, but i don't mind if they can be that dark horse again and get a "W" on AEW and WWE, i just like a nice underdog story 😂 😂, bringing back that TNA knockout back alive and The Division X be back to their glory days, i don't care if they can be #1 for just a year, but something to shut Tony Khan and his wrestling groupies just once, and WWE to be caught of guard with the ratings lol😅😅 😅

  • @Sahil-pc2kr
    @Sahil-pc2kr 11 місяців тому +2

    Literally no one’s referred to them as Impact.

  • @Punkinlunk
    @Punkinlunk 11 місяців тому +6

    TNA TNA TNA TNA

  • @misterelom
    @misterelom 11 місяців тому +2

    I'm cool with them changing the name back. Don't know that they will but if they could recapture some of the magic of TNA's golden era or take the good stuff from that period & leave out the bad, this could be a win for them.
    Also, I might be in the minority here but I thought the six-sided ring was overrated. I didn't hate it but was never as head over heels about it like most people were. Not bringing it back is no big loss IMO.

  • @michaelpatanella
    @michaelpatanella 11 місяців тому +3

    Anyone hating on impact or tna is just a negative loser. I been watching impact on and off for 20 years. But very religiously since 2019. Between that and nwa, and uwn, i have had all thr pro wrestling fix, without any nonsense wwe or aew. Believe me, im not missing anything. I just got home from nwa samhain and it was one of the loudest, funnest even ive had in yrs and yrs.

  • @christiansmith1389
    @christiansmith1389 11 місяців тому +1

    I wish there was a way to create a 6-sided ring that wasn’t hell on the body. I feel that was a big part of why I liked TNA in the mid-2000s.

  • @peytonlong5573
    @peytonlong5573 11 місяців тому +3

    05-09 TNA clears what AEW has produced in its entirety all I know, I just hope Cm Punk doesn’t get talked into this idea of them being the new 2nd best promotion and exactly until they get a better network it doesn’t matter

  • @whovian_scarf_dragon
    @whovian_scarf_dragon 11 місяців тому +1

    Do either of these guys even watch the product or just dwelling on past image of TNA/Impact.

  • @horizonskyfpvrc6152
    @horizonskyfpvrc6152 11 місяців тому +5

    Fat Albert wearing the TNA T-shirt.😅 Jim Cornertt is right, it is a time warp seeing a classic cartoon of Fat Albert from the 80’s.

  • @mayomonkey-gen1
    @mayomonkey-gen1 11 місяців тому +1

    Impact has been a consistently solid wrestling show the past year or so.

  • @pegatcho
    @pegatcho 11 місяців тому +3

    Honestly i enjoyed tna in its prime over anything aew have done 👍

  • @blavis50Micah
    @blavis50Micah 11 місяців тому +1

    TNA is doing the best decision... No matter what rebranding they did, people still called it TNA.
    Also, TNA is easier to chant.

  • @banntaylor7323
    @banntaylor7323 11 місяців тому +1

    Ngl, despite the booking and the many controversial decisions, when it comes to actual pro-wrestling old school TNA has some of the best matches I’ve ever seen.

  • @fredcasdensworld
    @fredcasdensworld 11 місяців тому +3

    Got to love it when Cornette complains about what TNA/Impact has done... when all one has to do is go look and look at every place he's ever worked and find stuff even more outlandish.

  • @TheeCoachg
    @TheeCoachg 11 місяців тому +2

    To me,TNA still sounds more…enticing than Impact. Impact has a connotation of cheap,indie,low budget. I think of Kurt Angle or AJ Stylez or even Jim himself and I never even watched TNA besides on UA-cam YEARS later

  • @maitreyas.4902
    @maitreyas.4902 7 місяців тому +1

    When I told a friend years ago I went to a TNA wrestling show, he thought it was strippers. I get it.

  • @stephenguerra576
    @stephenguerra576 11 місяців тому +2

    Been waiting for this one

  • @mikemarop
    @mikemarop 11 місяців тому +2

    They are officially going back to TNA because they have always been TNA.
    I've never heard anyone call the company anything but TNA. Good or bad, i think it is the brand.

  • @AlexBrovo
    @AlexBrovo 11 місяців тому +7

    Their program currently isn’t bad for a small promotion. They have stars people know like Bully Ray and Tommy Dreamer as well as current like the Bullet Club and Sami Callihan. They also seem to be happy not trying to be a big promotion nor should they be. If they try to stay like a mini faux territory, they’ll get decent local fans and develop great wrestlers.

    • @jamesroot4958
      @jamesroot4958 11 місяців тому +2

      This is one of those times where it feels like Jim and Brian’s ideal wrestling promotion sounds like the most boring, self-serious, no-fun-allowed wrestling show ever.

    • @jcaceres516
      @jcaceres516 11 місяців тому +1

      "Stars"😅😅😅

    • @AlexBrovo
      @AlexBrovo 11 місяців тому +1

      @@jcaceres516 replace “stars” with wrestlers you might have heard of

  • @the_gray_hatter
    @the_gray_hatter 11 місяців тому +2

    "Which one, Scott D'Amore?" HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!